The MASTER SWORD is INSANE

[@arohk4415]

Has Amulet that tells him if there are secret doors, still tries to bomb a wall with no fake door in the room .

[@r008in]

18:20 .... yeah

[@stevennelson5464]

Can't wait to see a victory! I saw Carl get an amulet that protects against floor spikes and explosions, so he could walk wherever he wanted, and the enemies near the end that throw bombs at you were basically harmless. In fact, their bombs ended up killing more enemy monsters than anything lol

[@haruzulux]

I'm hoping poo gets one soon. Once you get the patterns down the final boss is doable (I've beat him 4 times now) but until then he is stupid hard lol.

[@93Hexer]

@@haruzulux I saw the boss now two times in a video and learned the pattern in theory it ain't thad hard but the praxis maybe needs some training

[@haruzulux]

@@93Hexer Yeah in theory it isn't that bad, but if you mess it up damage can build up quickly lol

[@mattcat83]

One way to fix allow for an easier difficulty setting would be to allow for perma-upgrades, much like other Roguelikes, such as Hades or Crypt of the Necrodancer. I'd suggest letting special inventory items such as the quiver or bomb bag be obtainable only in special large chests at select levels (such as lvl.5, 9, and 12), as well as the sword, shield and armor upgrades. Heart pieces should also be perma-upgrades but only +1 heart piece retained per attempt at Agahnim. This would allow for multiple progressive playthroughs grinding for victory without getting overly tedious.

[@cameronkram5052]

Glad it's not just me that's frustrated with this fight. Even at literal MAX health I couldn't win. I know it takes more than 4 hits because that's all I get up to before being wombo combo'd to death. You're best bet is just to keep at it and do what I did, prioritize Heart Containers above ALL else.

[@yozarian86]

I’ve never seen anyone even get 1 less than full heart wow. For someone new just trying to get further, other items are better, but if you think you can make it to Agh, you have to get every heart possible. And… spoiler if you care… the number of hits Agh takes is 6

[@cameronkram5052]

@@yozarian86 Thank you! I very much care about that info, gives me some semblance of an end goal now that I can shoot for. So far the only items that matter in the long run that I've noticed is the curse immunity pendent and the 20% more cash pendent. That same run where I had max health I also had every possible pendent so I got to see some neat synergies especially with the 25% reduced magic cost, because it also reduces how much magic is needed to charge wands so wand of wealth goes a long way. In villages ring of wealth also comes in clutch with the magic reduction pendent because you can easily get a net positive and then just go to the magic shop and refill for less than what you made off of ring. I also have the dwarven cave chest puzzle mapped out if anyone wants it.

[@yozarian86]

@@cameronkram5052 Curse immunity, rod of wealth, secret finder, and for the last 2 floors the cape is unimaginably useful. Floor 12 is packed so full of monsters. And if you combine cape with magic reduction you basically never have to worry about getting hit

[@cameronkram5052]

@@yozarian86 I forgot to bring up secret finder, you're right. Every chest counts when hunting for Heart Containers. 100% agree on cape, personally it's never come in clutch for me but that doesn't change the fact that you're absolutely correct. Floor 11 and 12 can become trivialized if you got that thang on ya. I mainly rely on rods since they're insta kills so focusing down tektites, OG Hinoxes, and the golden spinny mace bois with the sticks of unga bunga has allowed me to reach aga the most consistently. Don't get me wrong though, it's not like I'm taking shots at aga every other run but 1 out of every 4 runs so far has been a healthy aga pace.

[@dylarper]

I had the best setup for my last run on this game, but it didn't matter when I got to the last fight. I was 3 hits away from winning. Also, if you press the Y button (Nintendo Y button) while hovering over an item in the menu, it will equip it.

[@AewingGRG]

You should get into Binding of Isaac next, it's basically the same principle, but a whole lot more extended

[@GarboCakeMuzz]

No

[@prettyradhandle]

@@GarboCakeMuzz blargh (ipecac)

[@monsoon1234567890]

Shame the creator says the final battle is like this due to burnout. I haven't been this disappointed in an ending since Game of Thrones.

[@AmirPrinceling]

What does he mean burnout. Implementing the ability for Agahnim to wipe all your skills and items sounds like it would take more work than not letting him wipe everything.

[@rakennavarro2557]

@@AmirPrinceling He probably means coding a difficulty level on the boss depending on how much geared you are on that point... more geared = more harder. Basically he just decided to wipe all of your items and make an standalone boss fight instead.

[@Rijnswaand]

This ending makes me not want to invest any time into this game. I sure hope the final battle gets revised sometime. Then I might play and also recommend to friends.

[@shadowscribe]

It's a real pity. As OSP Red said, going for shock value only works the first time. Granted this game is basically for the streamers since it only has so long before the Hammer cometh, but even still.

[@justanotherlikeyou]

The ending is perfect. Having him take all of your items is him saying, "We're going to fight on my terms, not yours."

[@StangSayz]

I actually interviewed for a job at Nintendo of America and I even said that im an uncle as a selling point for myself... they said that matters more at the main Nintendo though. Edit: Luckily my need for spellcheck to not come up with other words wasnt a problem haha

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

Boss battle is true to life. Despots are usually mostly talk with not much to back it up.

[@elliotburing87]

And that last fight gives the entire audience instant burnout. See it once and you don’t have to again. Unless you are crazy like me and just want Poo to beat the crap out of the boss and then never play again.

[@Mobslayer-tm9mo]

I completely get why he did it, that makes sense, but I agree with people saying it should be the first phase of a fight. If the creator comes back at a later time, after getting proper and well deserved rest and such and maybe makes it so like, have to run away back up through the Dungeon while being chased by the wizard or something, the game just remembers the floors and rooms and loads them as you run and then when you're outside you get your gear and can just unleash on him?

[@Elite4StephanPlays]

I’m literally singing secret tunnel half the time playing this lol

[@nemathia1580]

Zelda Minish Cap and Cadence of Hyrule are my two favorite Zelda games. CoH is a rhythm rogue like game, but if you turn the rhythm aspect off, it acts like a turn based. And each game has its map randomly generated, so its different each time. Minish Cap is just fun all around, and was my first Zelda game.

[@PhyloGenesis]

To the creator I'd be happy to help add another phase to the final boss where items work. The attacks you made are really cool and it has a ton of potential. I totally get burnout and I'm glad I heard that explanation.

[@mintiestgum]

The Mastersword is INSANE...

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of The MASTER SWORD is INSANE momentum 100

[@Dan_d00d]

I hardly catch live streams (aussie time) and watch a decent amount of VODS later on.. but with all this recent Zelda play.. how is the ER Bingus prep going Poo ? I did see your workshop time with Chris, but there is SO much to do. The DLC S4 tourney is going to be awesome

[@mackado]

Devil's Advocate: this way you use all your gear before getting to the final boss and hoarding it all.

[@insylogo]

You do know that the invisibility cape makes you immune to damage of any kind but you can still attack others right

[@rakurai4953]

I wish this game would add a Kingstone bag like how there is the gem bag. A mini fridge for the food that acts in the same way would be cool as well

[@justsomebody-1665]

The gem bag now holds both gems and kinstones

[@Bluhbear]

Yeah. He just needs to update to a newer version someday.

[@SlevinKalevera]

I'm only 10 minutes in, so don't come for me (and I watched like an hour and a half of this stream) but the other night I was playing this and we found out that you can kill those little square fireball shooters. Dunno what level sword is needed, I think I was at 3 or 4. Also found out that the laser shooting bastards can be killed with star power. Now I'ma click play again, and I'm sure (due to the title) that all this is covered. LOL

[@r008in]

1:53 Damn Poo wasn't kidding when he said he was locking in 👀

[@Thelurpy1]

Poo: "I didn't know those existed!" Casual Observer: Ah yes, the textbook definition of secret!

[@west3Dgaming]

cant believe after pushing every block in the game it Finally happened and That was the reward

[@bonesnekropolis6231]

at first boss you doing pretty well but you could throw a bomb when they meet in the center if the map !

[@DonaldRoy-nr9xe]

Your boss fights are more efficient. (Focus and less talking helped!) (45:00 best choice of the run!) (Moldorm's head is a shield with a repulsing quality) I hope you figure out the last boss (his weakness is a stumper, but stay mobile!) Don't let foes position themselves perpendicular to the direction you are facing! Put your back to the wall or attack at corners/doors within dungeon rooms. Spinning laser turrets/smiling demon fire tiles/4-way roombas are not to be ignored. Organize your items: (drop items to rearrange them)(use up temporary items or deposit them in rooms before boss/stairs to next level) Top row> sword, shield, jerkin (armor), gloves, lantern, bow (gear/tools for survival/weapon) Middle row> boomerang, hookshot, rods(rechargeable), pendants, rings (permanent purchases) Bottom row> recovery items, quest items, medallions (used up often, high traffic row) Good video!

[@RND_ADV_X]

Lol Oreo cookie cocaine sounds like something that's happened *somewhere*. 😂 I agree with the chat who said this would be good for steam deck. Seriously do a light reskin/rename, sell it for $10 and you'll rake bank

[@glorypaxson]

Why did you keep guessing about walls...when you had the secret doors pendant?

[@aaronsingleton6524]

Why you roast the mom 😭

[@west3Dgaming]

you can boomerang some items I'm pretty sure

[@youngandtalkitive]

I do seasonal work and am free for the winter . I’ll intern for food and housing ;)

[@ChrisLeeW00]

Honestly I would have taken a hookshot over the ascend ability.

[@kyx5631]

OOS and OOA enjoyer. GPB is a real one.

[@georgejones5287]

Knowing less does make you happier 👍

[@BigMikeyT730]

I feel like someone should tell this guy that ignorance means "lack of knowledge". He literally just rephrased "ignorance is bliss".

[@edmundoandrade5113]

The final battle is such garbage bro 😔

[@kvj1989]

I think its really dumb the final boss takes your stuff, that goes against everything this game is about.

[@jamaalaldintv]

The Master Sword is the coolest weapon ever! Who agrees? 🗡🔥

[@jeffgoggin1394]

It's just like every other boss... You get better with each fight and will feel like you accomplished something defeating him. And in a month people won't remember how they even lost to him because he's so easy.

[@west3Dgaming]

*cuts all gameplay that uses the master sword*

[@DragonsWatchlist]

that last fight is suppose to be fun? was he high when he did this? xD

[@bryanthegoalie5692]

Niveah? A woman I know has a kid named Niveah. You over near Tampa fl? lol

[@DustinKeiser]

I beat the game on my first try, last boss is actually pretty easy.

[@jdhannan]

Why does he buy keys??

[@r008in]

50:22 for the creators notes on the final boss

[@yozarian86]

Boomerang is so bad in this game. Why do people praise it? lol. Try hookshot. It’s way better. I didn’t know about coins behind village pillar. Thought I knew all the secret locations by now. Cape is the best item for floor 11 boss and all of floor 12. And dang. You did well. Just 2 more hits

[@naejimba]

The only differences I've noticed between boomerang and hookshot is: 1) you can move after using instead of having to stand still (which can be useful), 2) it can hit things on the way back, 3) you can use your movement to control it's positioning when it's returning to you, 4) it costs a little bit more on average. Other than that they seem to function exactly the same in this game. Only the last one is a downside.

[@yozarian86]

@@naejimba Hookshot is faster and has more range. How often does boomerang really hit things on the way back? It’s nice in theory, but in practice it’s not as useful as speed and range. Boomerang is excruciatingly slow

[@ImpofRelentlessness]

Wow that Aghanim fight. I feel like the designer missed the point of roguelikes; all the stuff before the end is for preparing FOR the end, and the joy is in doing the fight/whatever with whatever you've managed to accumulate. Poo had a god run here which would have been great to see, but not every run's going to get here with Master Sword and 6 Defense.

[@cloudstrife6911]

That's actually not true. One of the greatest roguelikes ever, Enter the Gungeon, removes all your items once you arrive at your characters past and requires you to beat that part on your skill alone. Sadly a lot of video game players nowadays would rather do anything else in life other than face a challenge 😂 that's why Fromsoft caved and made the Radahn easier to fight 😂

[@ImpofRelentlessness]

@@cloudstrife6911 Enter the Gungeon is a roguelite, not a roguelike. Dungeons of Infinity is designed more like a classic roguelike, and Gungeon has buffs in the form of metaprogression that makes that fight less than 'skill alone'.

[@m-rots]

@@ImpofRelentlessness Meta progression doesn't exist in past fights.

[@prettyradhandle]

@@cloudstrife6911 you're actually given stuff in the past fights, not base gear + gungeon runs don't take long anyways so it's not that big of a deal if you lose

[@crunchbite005]

Sigh...Neveah. backwards heaven.

[@TheMadLiteralist]

The biggest crime of the final boss is that it's a boring "wait for the enemy to use the one attack where you can hurt him."

[@RoyKnight]

I'm like the only person who loves the final boss. I'd much rather a skill check than an item check. It's not even that hard, you just need to attempt it a few times. Also your items are not a waste because of it. Good luck getting through floor 12 without the right gear

[@jeffgoggin1394]

What do people hate about the final boss?

[@menderbug1]

The fact that none of the stuff you got during your run matters at all except for health

[@jeffgoggin1394]

@@menderbug1 but I don't understand why do people have expectations about everything these days? So we only want things that are how everything's always been in the past? I see it in critique of everything these days. Movies books, video games now.... Can't win I guess if you make it the same people's complain that it's the same. If you change it people complain that you change it. Didn't the person spend 4 years making the game and it's free to play?

[@rjbourgeois5490]

@@jeffgoggin1394 A good thing is going to get critiqued. It's a good thing when people tend to hate on one aspect of something. It shows how they actually cared about what they played. Critique is not always bad, even when presented passionately. It's easy to see the amount of hard work invested into the project, it shows, and it may be free to play in terms of money, but time sunk into the playing of your title is another investment the player makes. You don't want them to feel like that time was all for nought. It's a roguelike, it's suppose to be difficult. But no roguelike's game design ever blindsides the player to where they would never get a chance to prepare for what's to come even on the first playthrough. The genre is inherently tough but it's also fair. The designer did a phenominal job on everything except that one fight which just so happens to be it's climax (among one other personal critique I have for it), and that's the issue. It's the final fight where all the progress and time invested just feels... wasted... The main issue is that all the way up until that point, inventory management is paramount to the entire playthrough of the title. A player's build is developed for a good 2-3 hours to maybe make it to the end, just to have their whole setup wiped without any warning. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game otherwise and the dev deserves all the praise. But that fight ruins any replayability it would otherwise have. If he doesn't want to change it, it's his project, but at the same time, you can't expect someone not to give their honest opinion about something you put out into this realm. Never take criticism of your work to heart. There's a reason people are annoyed, so look into why that is. It will only better you as a game developer if your goal is to publish your work and have it enjoyed by others.

[@naejimba]

@@jeffgoggin1394 , roguelikes are built around replayability where each run is unique... it focuses on strategic decision-making as well as managing risks and resources. The final fight is more like a game built around mastery and execution (a fighting game is a good example). Games about mastery have you do the same thing over and over so you can improve. If something is difficult enough that it not only requires mastery, but places emphasis on it, then humans have to do it over and over to learn. This is how we learn everything that is difficult via repetition and it would be expected that someone fails a great deal in the process. Having to put 2-4 hours in between each attempt leaves little room for improvement and is frustrating on the mastery side, and on the roguelike side and having all of your strategic decision making and resource management made irrelevant feels bad too. It's less about what has come before and understanding WHY certain people like and play certain genres of games. You want to mix the two together? Could be something fun and unique... but you have to play to the strengths of both. The last fight brings out the worst in both. In fact, most items don't do much of anything on ANY oft he boss fights, besides cheesing the first fight with bombs (which are a part of EVERY run) and the bow and arrow. A better approach would be allowing each item to have some interesting interaction with every boss and can change how you go about fighting them; that way you are adding depth and adding to replayability.

[@Jumamu]

“Ignorance is bliss”. That’s why that’s a saying 6:09

[@eimazd]

Understandable, but still a big anticlimax. Really makes me not want to play the game myself. Oh well.

[@2william]

first

[@justanotherlikeyou]

The last battle is perfect. It's not about how powerful you are, but how good of a player you are. The items are only for getting to the last boss. That is what they were intended for all along. But the last boss is not about how many powerful items you have, but how skillful of a player you are. By taking your items, Agahnim is basically saying, "We're going to fight on my terms, not yours!" Note how poetic it is to actually defeat him using his own weapon after he's taken yours. Couldn't be more perfect of an ending, imo.

[@menderbug1]

Doesn't sound like the developer agrees with you 🤷

[@justanotherlikeyou]

@@menderbug1 The developer probably is bowing to the social pressure of all the negative reactions to his choice. Doesn't mean his choice was wrong. I don't think it was wrong. I think it was genius.

[@joshuabarnett88]

​@@justanotherlikeyou "I see your evidence provided and choose to ignore it because how could I possibly be wrong" That fight is downright awful. The only reason I will not be seeking it out to play. So glad I saw the boss before downloading it

[@naejimba]

....but this isn't Darksouls or a fighting game, where the point is about execution and mastery, this is a roguelike where the whole appeal is running different loadouts each time to keep things fresh (with a focus on strategic decision-making and managing risks and resources). Typically genres that lean on the former allow a person to try something over and over to improve, while a roguelike is a one death and game over affair built on replayability. You see how the two don't mesh well? ESPECIALLY when you consider most roguelikes are shorter to account for this, but this game is a 2-4 hour run. If you don't realize why this fight would piss someone off you are ignoring human psychology as well as why people play different genres. The last fight comes with the sacrifice of strategic decision making, managing risks and resources, and replayability... the whole appeal of the genre. It is an objectively bad decision.

[@kvj1989]

The final boss is total garbage. And the creator is just a lazy F... And put in a few more random bosses, its really a bad roguelike. Roguelikes are games you can play over and over having many different experiences. You play this a few times at best and thats it.

[@speely]

Crazy how struggle entire game then final boss you literally have to throw 5 bombs at him and he’s dead lol

[@paintedlantern7248]

Post your successful run on your channel if it was so easy for you. I'll wait

[@BeholdMyStrength]

​@@paintedlantern7248lmao, dweeb

[@speely]

@@paintedlantern7248 Who said it was easy? Calm down keyboard warrior. All I said was after all the struggle of random hard rooms and rng chests they give you a final boss of 5 bomb hits lol. And I did get to final boss and didn’t beat it. Either way calm down tough guy lol. Was a comment about the game not GPB who I like. Go back to eating hot pockets in mommy and daddy’s basement

[@wonderbreadtc665]

@@paintedlantern7248 It’s hard the first time you get there because you aren’t expecting it. Once you see him once or twice it isn’t too bad

[@paintedlantern7248]

@@speely nice deflect, post your game or sush

[@Twink_Stink]

Damn opening the video by ROASTING Nevaeh's mom

[@Avian2008]

30:23 needs proof

[@high_ruul1706]

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[@Muphinman2]

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