The Meaning Behind Dougie Jones

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Dougie Jones was one of the most divisive characters in Twin Peaks The Return.
Here we give our original thoughts and ideas about Dougie, including:
*Why David Lynch and Mark Frost created the Dougie Jones character
*What he represented
*How he allowed Lynch and Frost to expand their social commentary
*Why he was ultimately a tragic figure
*Some of our favourite Dougie Jones moments
Let us know your thoughts and comments below, and thanks for watching.
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[@Foxtrop13]

Kyle "So how should I act this character" David "Remember the log lady?" Kyle "Yes" David "Well you are the log now"

[@PepiBirby]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kris242]

Brilliant comment🤣

[@Kredeidi]

I think there lies a deep meaning in that Dougie is an empty shell, but nobody notices. Not only sadness but also the beauty of how he manages to help everyone around him just by being harmless.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

why do you think people refer to the mainstream or the consensus as npc? humans are already zombies in a way, we live preprogrammed lives based on our genetic attributes and the culture and environment that those phenotypes generate

[@krebskopf]

Honestly a better explanation than the video imo

[@saniakshay12]

Yeah I think they wanted to show that even through Dougie Jones, Cooper's inherent need to do good stands out. Whether by coincidence or the help of the red room. Also, regarding Janey-E, she was probably not given much attention and not heard at all. This one seemed to help her even if he never showed it. That attention was all she needed.

[@valmarsiglia]

Yeah, but whatever one can say about Dougie as a character, it's a hell of a performance by Kyle McLachlan -- TP The Return has been a real tour-de-force for him, arguably his finest work as an actor. He's basically playing four characters, and playing them really well: the quiet, sullen Cooper who's been in the Black Lodge for 25 years, Evil Cooper/BOB, Dougie Jones, then finally the old Coop, when he finally makes his appearance. Each of those characters is entirely distinct in voice, body language, and demeanor, and because KM makes it look so effortless, it's easy to overlook how difficult and challenging this is for any actor.

[@nykolasfriedrichvonpetersc502]

MP I don't understand how KM didn't won the Golden Globe.

[@ian.ambrose]

@@nykolasfriedrichvonpetersc502 Because people only cares about sex, rape or murdering kind of films.

[@RMBII91]

Don't forget Richard.

[@HOTD108_]

What's the difference between old Coop and the Coop who has been in the lodge for 25 years? Aren't they the same?

[@valmarsiglia]

@@HOTD108_ Yes. Except that when he comes out, he has a completely different personality till almost the very end of the series, so he's practically playing a different character. If it had only lasted an episode or two, it would be one thing, but this went on for a long time.

[@josueamericanistarv]

I think you're missing out the point that Dougie also has a narrative arch. He starts as a corruption of the american dream, but through Dale's good heart and connection to mystery, Dougie becomes a good husband to Janey-E and a good father to Sonny Jim. Dale himself said it "you've made my heart so full, we are a family, Dougie... I mean... I will be back." When the story ends, since Dale is obsessed with the past, he fails to see the simple happy life he already had with his family in Las Vegas.

[@MrLokyus]

I had similar thoughts when watching. Although I agree with the video, I also saw that Dougie (or the real "good" Dale Cooper) was the polar opposite to Mr. C (or the bad Cooper). Even though he was basically a vegetable, the pure goodness of Dale Cooper (with some help from the Lodge spirits) attracts good fortune and fixes issues around him. There is certainly a sadness to the fact that nobody around the changed Dougie, who is now practically demented (although they do mention a car accident), really reacts or gives a damn.

[@omnipenne9101]

I felt so bad when Coop came back, despite wanting to see him come back how many episodes ago.

[@nancykillsyou]

Dougie lives in the moment. Mr. c is consumed with the future. Cooper, the past.

[@OhHeBustin]

Good point

[@watertommyz]

And living in the moment (important theme for Lynch) will make you happiest

[@vibesmom]

Great take

[@jackspawn77771]

Damn good point.

[@hatchetmouth8211]

YES, it finally makes sense.

[@grandexandi]

Dougie Jones is meta. He's Twin Peaks the Return itself.

[@HOTD108_]

Not really.

[@harryassadourian1389]

This podcast should be called 'Two Guys Agreeing with Each other'

[@brwi1]

Lynch just wanted to do his take on ‘weekend at dougie’s’

[@MusicMaing]

Would've been hilarious to see Dougie banging into the channel markers while "water skiing"

[@hahajaxsontv]

I always felt like Dougie Coop was also a representative of Lynch's fear of dementia.

[@julianmx13]

He had me at *HELLOO-OOOO!!!*

[@peacepuffz]

All I saw was Cooper in shell shock from his 25 years in the lodge & the stress of his dimensional travel back to earth. He just needed to wake up.

[@Unqualifiedmedicalperson]

Peace Soup that's one way of looking at it....

[@Kredeidi]

I really expected evil Coop(Bob) had to die first. Really weird moment actually for him to return just because of the shock. Although electricty seemed to have an important theme as well. Did anything trigger him touching the socket though?

[@digitaljer]

I appreciate this commentary. It makes me think of how mindful Coop was from the beginning of S1, and how the world stands out in contrast to that mindfulness in The Return. On one level, Dougie was still spiritually sensitive like Coop was, responding to guidance from the Lodge. On another level, Dougie was a caricature, an amplified version of the common person who's too preoccupied to take note and really internalize it when they see that something strange is happening. In the world of The Return, people were aware enough to notice that certain things were out of place (i.e. Dougie suddenly losing weight and being well dressed), but they couldn't be bothered to pursue the mystery because that's not what they cared about.

[@ingenito919]

Dougie simply represents Cooper’s innocent childlike personality while Mr C represented Cooper’s dark side

[@peterwhite7475]

A video by PJG Productions makes the case that Cooper's personality was split in 3 pieces: Dougie represents that "living in the now" Dale Cooper that loved the immediate sensation of Douglas Fir trees, coffee, and cherry pie. Mr. C. is the selfish Dale living only for the future, to get Judy's power so he will never die and be immortal. Cooper/Richard is the part of Dale living in the past in order to use logic and evidence to figure the past out. We all love the first two seasons when all those were in a single Dale Cooper. And they are again briefly before Cooper has to go back in time to find Laura in Part 17/18. Everyone says there were 2 coopers, but Garland Briggs' note said "COOPER/COOPER/COOPER". 3 Coopers, if I recall correctly. Not only did Dougie get the happy ending--the message is that living in the NOW is the only way to be happy.

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

Peter White that’s certainly an interesting theory but I don’t think Dougie Jones represents a model of how to live. He was, after all, a manufactured being and a financially ruined adulterer. While Cooper-Dougie does have an endearing child-like fascination with things around him, his consciousness is far too limited to be a proper enlightened Lynchian hero. But like we say, I definitely think Lynch and Frost have a lot of empathy for him, as do we :)

[@peterwhite7475]

Now It's Dark good points...but consider that Dougie could be happy and oblivious by living in the now BUT not be a Lynchian hero for the reasons that you mention. that Lynchian happiness is a different thing than Dougie's happiness, so that the PGJ point is valid at the same time your point is valid.

[@noklarok]

dougie cooper represents a taoist theory,, can you be like a child? no harm befalls a baby because he has no concept of danger , even a tiger's claws cannot harm it,, something like that

[@EugenioHertz]

that guy is a freak. dont believe his twisted mind.

[@jmpsthrufyre]

Peter White Everyone's point is valid when talking if Lynch's creations

[@KennyEspling]

Dougie Jones is undeniably at least somewhat inspired by Peter Sellers character Chauncey Gardener in Being There.

[@IAMTHESTARMAN]

Going in line with your theory -- In the entire Return series, there seems to be a theme of children being destroyed by their parent's interference (Audrey's kid, the zombie kid and Laura Palmer being the ultimate examples). I feel like Sunny Jim was on the same path of damnation. Except Coop comes in and shows us just what it takes to save a family.

[@davidcripps3011]

I've always thought that, on top of creating so many layers, Lynch always likes to just have a laugh and pull one over on his audience. Dougie Jones had me laughing out loud.

[@timwells4901]

I disagree. I think Dougies was the happy ending .At the end of the day Dougie was Cooper the whole time .Even if you consider the American Dream to be a false mirage , it is what most Americans strive for . Coopers happy ending is retiring his previous life and assuming Dougies with his new family and friends

[@malelion]

I agree with you. The One-armed man/Mike asked Cooper after finishing of BOB what he wanted to do - next scene: Cooper is embraced by Janey-E and Sonny Jim and then Cooper replied "home". Beforehand, Cooper gave a piece of hair to One armed man/Mike when he "woke up" sitting on the hospital bed and kinda said to Mike: "You know what to do". Meaning, they were understanding the purpose of what they need to do with Laura Palmer. Therefor Mike created another Tulpa of Cooper, a less "Coopish" Tulpa who were "Richard" at the ending or at the alternative timeline/reality. The original Cooper was kept at the lodge for quarter century, of course he deserves a second chance. And btw: I really enjoyed the analyzes of the third season by these guys (many has attempted and I´m just thinking: yeaaas...

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

Tim Wells I agree that Dougie is a kind of happy ending, but only for Janey E and Sonny Jim. He represents a gift from Cooper to the family he grew so fond of. And overall, it is a “happy ending” still tinged with disillusionment, much like the overtly fake robin at the end of Blue Velvet.

[@malelion]

How do you explain Cooper ended at Janey-E and Sonny Jim and Mike/One armed man planted a new seed and created Cooper/Richard?

[@timwells4901]

Its a possibility . One of several for a series with such an ambiguous ending

[@amandam1137]

Tim Wells I think the real cooper went back "home", switched places with his tulp a to be happy. Wizard of oz programming all over

[@lacywhitevalenti7234]

Dougie Jones is I think a mirror to Laura. He desperately needs help, but everyone stands by and does nothing.

[@flavia8363]

Patrick Valenti Exactly. No one cares as long as they play their roles in society, the provider husband and the prom queen.

[@adamant5550]

Actually quite the opposite: everyone does help him but do not care to understanding him.

[@John_Greek]

Everyone helps him you idiot lol

[@lh4736]

I just love the return!

[@donaldpriola1807]

Pretty well said. Dreams are clearly a theme of Twin Peaks, whether we're speaking of the American "Dream", dreams as alternate realities, or even Cooper's dream of having a family life, which he fulfills in the most Lynch way possible.

[@mr.playami5514]

i see dougie like the pure side of cooper, while mister c is the evil side of cooper and the og agent dale cooper is just the middle ground the jing jang vibes type

[@PapaRikkiBalls]

It's kinda like left brain vs right brain Mr C is all intelligence while Dougie is all instinct

[@jelethefreeone]

Few things. Dale in fact became lost in some strange kind of the PTSD or traumatic syndrome. We see that there are 3 possibilities how to cope with trauma. First one being the frozen Dale that is lost and following his lost cause, ignorant Dougie, that has everything but is not fully conscious and therefore desires for different things and evil Cooper that went crazy and became evil man and criminal. Dale's Dougie represents Dale's life as it was desired by Dale himself, if he did not spend all the time on adventures and work for the FBI. Which cost him to be imprisoned for the 25 years in the black lodge and forever lost for normal and ordinary life. This could be read as an equivalent of the dedication to work where you are in fact dealing with the bad and dangerous things. And he lost his important cause, he did not solve the mystery of Twin Peaks (well he did, but we all know that this is complicated). Because of this work Dale Cooper does not have a meaningful relationships and family. Dale as Dougie is a caught in the lucid dreaming, because he represents a kind of compromise. He has wife and family, but he is working in the boring job of insurance agent, but he wants to be the FBI agent. He is able to get back by finding that his work is not boring at all and his family is very important for him. No wonder that Janey E is an estranged sister of Diane. Dale wanted to be with Diane, but their relationship never worked because of the various reasons. Original Dougie despise his own life and family. I think the reason is that he is in fact demoralized by his work and place. He did not know that he won a jackpot with Janey E. This is the reason why he desires prostitutes and hazard. The ending is that he is getting back healed and able to accept his family and himself. Realizing that his life is a place where his presence is fully required. New Dougie is an happy ending for Dale. A possibility where he found his happiness. And yes, we see other possibilities as well. Lost Dale is trying to pursue the lost cause and evil Cooper is destroyed and removed.

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

jelethefreeone Dougie does represent a kind of wish fulfillment for Dale Cooper, at least in terms of having a real family, but it comes at the cost of his most defining characteristic: his awareness. Perhaps Lynch and Frost are saying that the American Dream is only obtainable for those who are oblivious to the darker realities at play?

[@jelethefreeone]

Yes exactly, but it is left as a question, not a definitive statement about the American dream (or any other dream of greatness). Last time we saw Dougie was when he has returned home, he was improved Dougie, but on the other hand we are not certain to what extent he remain aware about the other things. Is there any chance him being a Dale and the Dale/Richard that travels with Diane/Linda was a doppelganger made for this purpose? What do you think?

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

It's possible, I hope we get a season 4 to find out for sure :)

[@SpAzMaTiCJ]

I don't usually subscribe to channels from these videos but you guys have great insight on the topic you earned my sub... Great video

[@bikibird]

Mr. C. wants, not needs. Dougie has needs, but no wants. He's my Zen hero.

[@bookworm_7]

Please keep uploading!

[@peterwhite7475]

I have another question about Dougie: why does everyone assume Mr. C (Bad Cooper) created Dougie? I'll have to rewatch because maybe this has got evidence behind it, but it occurs to me that Mike and the Red Room Cooper could have created Dougie so Cooper would have an option to return if Mr. C did not come back after his time was up. Mr. C. was trying to kill Dougie, fearing it was how Cooper would return, so why would he have participated in the creation of Dougie? I know one theory is that he created Dougie so that Dougie would go back to the Red Room and Mr. C could stay on earth, but I can't see Mike or others falling for that trade. They want Bob back. Also Cooper says to Mike, when he plucks some of his own hair, "we'll have to make another one" as if they made an earlier one. And then Mike and Dale Cooper seem like a team who have worked together before. Mike and Bob had a falling out long ago. Just as Laura was hid in Odessa for 25 years, maybe Cooper was hid in Las Vegas for 25 years. And both of them have only dim memories (Dougie likes coffee, badges, guns, and cherry pie and Carrie has a white horse on her mantle piece, recognizes the names "Leland" and "Sarah" and Sarah's voice at the end). The Diane-Tulpa similarly has some of the original DIane within herself. And one more thought on Dougie living in the "Now" and being happy in an non-Lynchian sense of happiness. The bad behavior you ascribe correctly to Dougie involves a different version of Dougie than the one who learns simple-minded (non-Lynchian) happiness and returns to Las Vegas at the end.

[@HOTD108_]

You're dead wrong. Mike couldn't have made Dougie because he explicitly demonstrates confusion when the "real" Dougie is transported to the red room, even saying "someone manufactured you", emphasis on "someone" not " I did". As for why Mr. C created Dougie, it was because he knew the lodge would accidentally take Dougie back instead of him once the time came, and you'll notice that the employees of Mr. C only start trying to kill Dougie AFTER Mr. C knows that Cooper and Dougie have swapped places.

[@Imperium83]

I always got the vibe that Dougie is that feeling we get in dreams where we are just unable to communicate to anyone, and the narrative just continues around us. Bizarre things happen but it's just dismissed. Hard to put into words that helpless feeling. Another interpretation I get from his character is that Dougie was an "alternate reality" of Dale, like you take all that drive to do good things and sense of purpose, but instead stick him in an office job for 40 years selling insurance and he eventually would just become a walking husk of himself. Love how there are so many ways to look at what is ultimately an extremely simple character.

[@IngaHicks]

I think Dougie was the balanced medium between Good Dale Cooper and Bad Dale Cooper. He was manufactured to be used to get closer to Bad Cooper to help send him back to the Black Lodge. I remember they said in The White Lodge, Dougie was created for a purpose. So the essence of Good Dale Cooper needed a vessel to enter to continue on the path to get to Bad Cooper

[@TheObserver37]

I love how everyone trying to pick things apart and find meaning in the art of David Lynch yet no one brings up how bizarre is the name “Sonny Jim” 😂😂

[@ultimateblong]

"American Dream" is such a lazy answer. So surface level.

[@nancykillsyou]

Tip top guys! Very nice 👍

[@dudeletsplay4792]

What's the intro music ? I love it

[@brightmysteriousobject5537]

Hmmm I don't know.. I think you have to look at Lynch's characters as archetypes first and then break it down from there in how they relate to the teachings of the Tibetan Book of the dead which is a great influence on him. It seems that the 3 Coopers represent the Past, Present and Future. Bad Cooper is obsessed with the future. Where he is going. How does he get there. He is transfixed on that. The past means nothing as the present doesn't either. Everything is about getting to where he needs to get. Good Cooper is obsessed with the Past. His entire life is consumed with trying to fix some tear in time to make things "right" again. By doing this he does not look forward and most importantly he doesn't think about the present and uses the obsession of the past to avoid, the "now" which he gets punished for in the end.Dougie, is the Present. he doesn't understand the past nor the future. He is very much like that of a toddler or an animal. He only cares about what is going on right now and he is rewarded because of this. He is the only one that has a happy ending, because in the world of Buddhism the number one rule is, (paraphrasing) "Love what you have not what you want" Dougie is appreciative of everything he has. He does not care about what he does not have. Where as Evil Cooper dies and Good Cooper, fails again because he doesn't achieve perfection... See clip below from Season 2 which I think is key to the entire series. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqq9gJSanLRneqsHe is not living his life "true". A side note: That's why I think Cooper never left the black lodge. He never passed thru. His giant floating head at the end of Episode 16 suggests that. "We live inside a dream" and the dream is really a stage in the Bardo Realm as he watches himself fail again. But this is a much broader discussion though this does leave it open for a Season 4 which I would absolutely love

[@peteusefarts1249]

interesting analysis!

[@herakleitus]

It's like DougieDale was just a shell around which and through Cooper's good karma was preserved until he "woke up" but he couldn't do that without Mike's help...

[@callingcolleen]

Please do more Twin Peaks!!

[@Casinorhgd]

What I did not like was that Cooper was Dougie for 14 episodes and at the end he returned. I think many opportunities were lost there. I watched that season hoping to see Cooper fly to Twin Peaks, meet Audrey, Hawk, Shelly, etc. That disappointed me. It was a waste.

[@noklarok]

Lynch wanted to direct Encino Man

[@enthymeme4856]

The background music is really loud at times

[@alltradesart]

why isnt your podcast on google play?

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

Jon Pfeiler we’ll look into that, thanks for the heads up!

[@lavdiasmylove]

Dougie Jones is a saint!

[@Taylor-lm5op]

Great video. There were some storylines I liked in the new season and some I didn't care for. I think the season would've been better with 8 or 10 episodes instead of 18. I wish they could've just focused mainly on Cooper and Laura.

[@alexvolkov223]

I disagree, Ii think it was perfect how it was. It's just about how you interpret the meaning of the show - I saw season 3 not as a continuation of the first 2 seasons, but rather as an explanation to what the message of the show was actually meant to be - and not a literal story.

[@mattd8725]

The room service man who is identified as being the same as the fireman character in season two acts similarly to Dougie. In a dreamlike world are people who walk around in a dreamlike state what they appear to be? The logic of the world itself seems to bend around Dougie. Perhaps due to the power of the white lodge, whatever that is.

[@amandam1137]

Matt D like Laura was blinking like she was sleeping in the last scene

[@mattd8725]

"Through the darkness of future past; The magician longs to see" In occult language the magician is the conscious human as in the magic of consciousness. What does that make the darkness of future past?

[@amandam1137]

Matt D maybe when the Angels fell from grace

[@amandam1137]

Matt D the song out of sand starts with "can't climb to heaven..."

[@mattd8725]

Lynch has said before that part of his world view is of multiple lives and climbing up a ladder to a higher level of being. I haven't really thought much of that song not realizing that it was written for the show. In biblical terms it refers to something like Jacob's Ladder. Normally when people use concepts like this they do talk about the individual's spiritual journey towards the "heavenly" and not fallen angels. Although there is the dark inversion of a descent into evil. A simple answer to the riddle what the conscious mind longs to see past is death.

[@superscienceshow]

It's a comment on karma or fate. Dougie is foiled by the drunk in the twin peaks jail who repeats everything said but his life is a living hell.

[@neilsun2521]

When Cooper's exiting the casino we see an Egyptian scarab-beetle on a fruit machine - a reference to the replacement of Beatle Paul McCartney in late '66. There are others in the series - when Cole is talking to Bill [Shears] "how's Paul? Did he sort out that thing with Martha [My Dear]" Also "Linda [McCartney].

[@KarlHainer]

Fair.

[@David-ws3rw]

The idea behind is to piss off Twin Peaks fans

[@rishikesh1087]

The Dougie Jones scenes were so drawn out......Lynch milked this theme for everything he could. I think only die hard Twin Peaks fans can recognize and appreciate the significance of this character and his scenes. I do really love how Dougie Jones makes the world a better place, helping transform people for the better.

[@okremSful]

is one of you the guy from Alien Theory?

[@nowitsdarkmovie]

No, but that's a cool channel.

[@jirizak729]

I think Dougie-Coop's story is a version of history, where Cooper gets his proper family:).

[@jimmynorton1001]

why does lynch say in interviews that there is no point or meaning in this show? No intent to make any sociological point of view. I'm so confused. He basically just says these are ideas I got from the well of meditating and I threw them into the film. If that's the case... I don't know what to think. Is there a point to even attempting any sort of analysis at all? Or is the easy answer, what most people would probably say, he's lying.

[@alexx5137]

What if cooper went back to janey e and sonny jim to retire and the other cooper he created with mike was the one who traveled to the other dimention with diane??? Maybe when diane leaves the note at the motel saying she doesn't recognize him anymore is a clue of him not really being him, and also he was acting really weird not like cooper he was a lot more serious

[@vsrr83]

Your voice and rhythm of speech sounds exactly like Sam Harris.

[@fredricclack7137]

Lost Vegas Perfect! 🖤

[@rorybarber5076]

The one armed man pleading with Cooper to wake up and telling him not to die is so bleak the more I think about it. Any real life allegory you can associate with Dougie, be it dementia, depression, being buried in a system, a broken old man fading away exclaiming "Don't Die!" with desperation in his voice, oof.

[@Rh143]

Bob was in Mr. C, wasn´t the real Dougie Jones a tulpa?

[@taychris39]

I have a question for you about Dougie...Do you believe A. he was actually manufactured (Tulpa)or B. was he a doppelganger as he was pretty Identical to the actual Dougie but a bit heavier and he did have a child with Jane E ..as a footnote I prefer to believe the latter was true and when Dale saw what a nice life he had while he was inhabiting Dougie's body he asked Mike if he would make another Dougie from the seed and a bit of his hair ...which Mike did and gave the Jones family a happy ending that I loved!!! result the actual Dale Cooper was actually residing inside DouglasJones

[@neiluk1470]

Don't give your video such a presumptive title

[@alexvolkov223]

I've been wondering if there is a more literal kind of explanation to Dougie? I was thinking maybe Dale cooper, is Dougie and Mr.C but they are told in different time-zones, and kind of shown in a dream like manner. Maybe Dale Cooper really did go insane after failng to save yet another two- women, and feeling responsible for their death/hurt. Maybe he gave into evil and became Mr.C, the 'black lodge' is just his pysche, his way of rationalizing how he can be a rapist/killer after striving to be pure and strong. My.C eventually gets into a car-crash, could it be he suffers brain-damage and becomes a Dougie like character? Suddenly 'freed' from his deeds by just being a brainless zombie, having forgotten who he is? It seems the people aren't too surprised about Dougie going missing etc. maybe as he was living a criminal double life he was often mysteriously gone? He desperately wants to go back in time to save Laura, but he is really trying to save himself from becoming corrupted. So even when he 'prevents' her death and leads her to the woods, she disappears and he is still left alone with himself. Obviously this idea doesn't explain everything and leaves some plotholes, but so do all the theories. It seems the show was designed to not be completely consistent, but one can interpret all kinds of ideas from it.

[@charmicarmicat2981]

there’s an idea I’ve been thinking more about where Cooper is a Tulpa created by mike that developed free will(sort of) I know Mike is the one who sentenced Bob to kill Laura in the final act of FWWM. But in the show(both the original and the return) Mike shows a lot of remorse and it seems like he wants to atone for what he’s done. Which is why I think he made Dougie Jones. Whenever he says “I think someone manufactured you for a purpose” I think he’s reffering to himself but he doesn’t want to outright say it because Dougie and Coop share a mind. Also Dougie’s arm is all fucked up like Mikes. I wonder why Mike is stuck in the black lodge the entirety of the Return tho. Did Phillip Gerard die? Did Mike purposely kill his own vessel because he knew Mr. C would come for him and disable him permanently to keep him from making Cooper/Dougie Jones?

[@Twilightsofthespring]

I love Dougie Jones. I don’t want the show to move on and get back to Mr. C. I want more Dougie Jones. Dougie makes the familiar strange. So many things we do every day are weird social constructions we take as normal. Dougie isn’t childish; he’s just not informed about the weird ways people do things that we assume are fixed markers of adulthood, and he has no reason to do them. His purpose lies elsewhere, and he’s forgotten it, so he has no real reason to say or do anything rather than nothing, except that the people around him propel him through the motions, and Mike and the Arm help him out. The fact that others don’t seem to notice how static he is may be a little about how self-absorbed and agenda-focused those other people are, but it’s equally, if not more, a testament to what a schmuck the pre-Cooper Dougie tulpa was. He clearly was so stupid and lost, and such a total man-child, and fraught with assorted vices, that Cooper-Dougie isn’t much of a change. The people around him are actually quite kind, especially Janie E, who has clearly gone through hell with pre-Cooper Dougie. More Dougie.

[@giancarlodr.iodice1701]

I really love the angle you see this character. Hope for the next 25years to have another TV artwork to increase our "golf ball" size.......what it was??!!! . (:-ò

[@fredricclack7137]

Tom Sizemore BEST! 😊

[@Google777com]

I didn't like Diane. I expected better

[@RhettThompsonFilm]

Was Diane, Diane though?

[@randommay3573]

Sleepwalking

[@lenfeder8937]

I think all the weirdness around Dougie works best if he is a character in a dream, not a real person.

[@Tj11813]

He's a metaphor.

[@borregoayudando1481]

hel-LOoO~

[@victormichaelwest1805]

:)

[@Deeplycloseted435]

No.

[@LosBerkos]

Pitifully lazy commentary (analysis BAH)

[@JNadobnik]

I really believe this could be a really cool channel, but I think if you go more to the point and talk a bit more enthusiastic, it could make a difference!

[@spareparts1017]

It’s impressive how far up your own azzez you guys get. Good production though.

[@mattyryon]

Dougie was only in the show for 2 minutes, he was Dale Cooper the rest of the time but not fully attuned. If you want to refer to Dale half there in Dougie's life as anything but Dale it should be "Mr. Jackpots"

[@EugenioHertz]

oh no... not again. another YEAH channel. yaaa yaaa yaaa. guys please, is it really necessary?

[@IDHLEB]

It's from a podcast, you know

[@LosBerkos]

Jesus that's shallow podcast trash

[@djm5k]

My take on the Dougie Jones saga is that it is totally unrealistic and far fetched. There is no way a human being in that vegetable state of mind would ever get away with that. It was all for show and entertainment and nothing else.

[@TheSeraphrim]

Dougie story was so annoying..he didn't need so many episodes..

[@garycottier92]

Dougie Jones existed because Lynch and Frost had no idea what to do with Dale Cooper in between his exit from the black lodge and the final few episodes. It was lazy writing.

[@chiralchimera]

Troll harder dude. What are you even doing here.

[@garycottier92]

Telling the truth. I know, I know, it hurts sometimes. It hurt me as much as anyone else, but there it is. I'm not gonna kid myself because if I do I'll be claiming Dune is a masterpiece next.

[@chiralchimera]

I think this show is just beyond your comprehension. Watch it a few times. If you can't bother to do that, you're just as ignorant as the next couch potato. Understanding art requires effort.

[@garycottier92]

Seen every episode six times each. I've been a Lynch fanatic for almost thirty years since I was a kid and I wanted to love season three as much as anyone, but it just wasn't that good in places. If you think it's great, fine, that's up to you. Still, I loved 75% of the season, it was just the other 25% that let it down for me. Lynch has done much better work in the past. And I still don't know what Hawk was doing at Glastonbury grove.

[@chiralchimera]

Well if that's true you're entitled to your opinion. Lots of people say dumb shit without even finishing the season.

[@nancykillsyou]

Tip top guys! Very nice 👍