The MG Cyberster Is Finally Here!!

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@e1huron
@e1huron 7 ай бұрын
Saw this on the London event yesterday. This video doesn't do it justice. The quality is Supercar like and the looks are better than a Lotus. Best thing that wasn't mentioned is the seat hight. I am tall and wide and I could fit easily and get in and out. The only roadster I can fit pretty much 😅 I will be ordering one when it comes to the UK
@kantoendrato
@kantoendrato 10 ай бұрын
I'm pleased that unlike on a modern Mini, the turn signals don't include an arrow pointing the way you're NOT turning.
@motorv8N
@motorv8N 10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this comment before about the Mini and it confuses me. My 2021 Cooper SE has the split Union Jack pattern within the tail lights - but they are not turn signals (otherwise, I can definitely see how they would point the opposite way to the turn). When the turn signals are activated there is a separate horizontal bar that bisects the light that flashes. Now mine is a Canadian spec car - perhaps these work differently than UK lights or other markets?
@europa504
@europa504 10 ай бұрын
The lights on the mini are fine unless you live in a country that uses red instead of amber for turn signals.@@motorv8N
@kantoendrato
@kantoendrato 10 ай бұрын
@@motorv8N Part of the problem is that the US market idiotically allows red taillights to be used as signals, unlike the rest of the world, so they probably just figured to save a few bucks and blink the whole wrong-pointing arrow.
@motorv8N
@motorv8N 10 ай бұрын
@@kantoendrato - interesting - makes sense. The market differences don’t end there. For instance, my MINI also has fog lights in the lower rear bumper, complete with bulbs and wiring in place however, there is no switch to turn them on. Perhaps driving around with brake light-bright red in your bumper is not allowed in Canada although I see them activated on the highway on Audi and Mercs here. I’ve read you can get into the vehicle management, software with a BMW aftermarket app and activate those lights in a number of ways - as running lights, as brake lights, and if you add the switch to the dashboard blank, the aforementioned fog lights. Someone figured it must just be cheaper to install all the hardware on the line, then separate different country spec cars with just different software configurations. Don’t see how that’s true but there you go.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 10 ай бұрын
It does make you wonder how that bit got past multiple levels of approval during development without a single person saying, "Hey, hang on a second..."
@macgreiner
@macgreiner 10 ай бұрын
"Best car ever made" - and then goes on about all the shortcomings. I seriously do not understand this review.
@tonychallinor6721
@tonychallinor6721 4 ай бұрын
Is this the bit of the review where he says, it is so easy to drive, enjoyable and brisk? Or the bit where he said he was blown away maybe?
@Simon-nx1sc
@Simon-nx1sc 10 ай бұрын
Elliot should really get more critical. This is just like an ad.
@kritasto2813
@kritasto2813 10 ай бұрын
Isn't that a characteristics of this channel? Biggest and harshest criticism what I heard - "it's another midsize SUV" and then 10 minutes of sugar and sweeteners. I am wondering, after watching, shouldn't I check my insulin levels, just in case.
@shhhyouknowhoo3753
@shhhyouknowhoo3753 10 ай бұрын
How funny. Check out the comment just above yours…
@edc1569
@edc1569 10 ай бұрын
I think he likes living in China.
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 10 ай бұрын
​@@kritasto2813 Most car reviewers are uncritical.
@pottacoola
@pottacoola 7 ай бұрын
He cant his in china, if he got critical he would be disappeared. So everything is always ok or good and never a real review. i normally just skip through to see the car and stats now but there wast much.
@hkad6252
@hkad6252 10 ай бұрын
Come on Mazda… electric MX-5… chop chop! Tiny battery, never mind the range, physical buttons, no driver assist systems. I will buy one!
@EverydayRoadster
@EverydayRoadster 10 ай бұрын
With rotary engine range extender.
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 10 ай бұрын
@@EverydayRoadster Considering how bad the reception for the Rex MX-30 has been, no chance.
@Tsenngu
@Tsenngu 10 ай бұрын
Would be cool but cars have to be sold with assist systems or else get 1 star in the crash test and nobody buys it :(((
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 10 ай бұрын
Pleeeeeease yes
@JaakkoIsWatching
@JaakkoIsWatching 10 ай бұрын
@@Tsenngu Some cars still have the off-button for assists.
@gregmiller9957
@gregmiller9957 10 ай бұрын
Last time I checked " dystopian" was a bad thing...not sure why or how this is related to this car
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 10 ай бұрын
Maybe it was a cry for help 😂
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids 10 ай бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
Merely an indication, as compared to datopian; pl. desetopians.
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 10 ай бұрын
Neon drenched would have been a more accurate descriptor of Shanghai. Also, hyper-capitalist.
@baoquoc3710
@baoquoc3710 6 ай бұрын
Dystopia in western terms are something dreary and haunting, which unfortunately is exaggerated here
@WhyUbrown
@WhyUbrown 10 ай бұрын
MG is as British as the food in your local Chinese takeaway is
@TsLeng
@TsLeng 10 ай бұрын
With no good local food, Brits are forced to accept it. Yes tikka masala and egg drop soup is British, so is this MG. Gotta cope somehow
@arsonfireuk
@arsonfireuk 10 ай бұрын
​@@TsLengthose curries were invented by a Bengali chap. Bloody glad he did. What does it matter who owns the marquee. All these companies are owned by shareholders from all over the world anyway. The notion of nationhood is well and truly over as money doesn't subscribe to national rhetoric, it visits whatever country it can multiply in! It's only people who try to personify and tribalise material possessions and company ownership.
@davidk.d.7591
@davidk.d.7591 10 ай бұрын
Ironically, its likely as British as your local Chinese takeaway is Chinese ie not very much
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 10 ай бұрын
@@davidk.d.7591 Yeah I can't see a takeaway in China offering a "spicy box".
@paulb1951
@paulb1951 10 ай бұрын
Least the food in the local Chinese was grown in Britain, and made by people who pay taxes there.
@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145
@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145 10 ай бұрын
Biggest question: how could they not call it the MGE?
@林振华-t4v
@林振华-t4v 10 ай бұрын
Nah, MG was already at F and TF back 2 decade ago. This shall be called MG-G. It is a missed opportunity, but it can also be this thing is lot larger than the B, F and TF.
@JaakkoIsWatching
@JaakkoIsWatching 10 ай бұрын
They wanted to have a laugh at Tesla Roadster and Cybertruck that will go into mass production, very soon, some year.
@vitolu6727
@vitolu6727 10 ай бұрын
they might want to save this for a better car
@justmechanicthings
@justmechanicthings 10 ай бұрын
Maybe reserving it for another model?
@tadcooke
@tadcooke 10 ай бұрын
then they could follow up with the MGE GT...
@jonnowocky8179
@jonnowocky8179 10 ай бұрын
Trying to sell me 30cm wider and longer and 800kg heavier as small margins was a reach Jordan Pickford would be proud of
@johnboyle7984
@johnboyle7984 10 ай бұрын
I love how he looked at the tail lights and immediately saw the union jack but had to wait for someone to tell him it looked like an arrow😅😂
@alferro3149
@alferro3149 10 ай бұрын
Yes they are just arrows. He must have some colonial nostalgia
@vital0208
@vital0208 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, although it's barely impossible to find anything even remotely close to the union jack in this most arrow-like arrow ever 🙃
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 10 ай бұрын
I too was confused by this
@stevenbarrett7648
@stevenbarrett7648 10 ай бұрын
It’s only a Jack when flown on a Jackstaff otherwise its the Union Flag…so saying I’m confused as to why it would be stuck on a Chinese car ?. The German mini has the same thing !😊
@ctr289
@ctr289 10 ай бұрын
Garbage car
@48o272
@48o272 10 ай бұрын
If it's a sport cars a proper handling test by an experienced driver would have been useful.
@Tom55data
@Tom55data 10 ай бұрын
Most sports cars are driven by old men who can't drive, so that would be a waste of time.
@davidqbs
@davidqbs 10 ай бұрын
Other reviews have suggested it handles more like GT than a sports car.
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 10 ай бұрын
he only like tiny cars with one horsepower and six-inch wheels so your right lol
@ds2000
@ds2000 10 ай бұрын
This was my take “handles amazingly” at 30mph in a city
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 10 ай бұрын
@@davidqbs Uh-oh there goes any Porsche comparison this reviewer is trying to sell us all here.
@BMWHP2
@BMWHP2 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, nice review. When we had that kind of $, we would buy it as our daily driver. Great car, and one of the very rare 2-door EV's.
@visionsofhere3745
@visionsofhere3745 10 ай бұрын
The lights work. If we'd seen it in daylight, we'd have a better idea of its looks.
@林振华-t4v
@林振华-t4v 10 ай бұрын
Go look at other riviewer clip. All of them tested at day time. It could be Eillot only secure the over time for this press car, which end up the sun goes down already. If this is the same press car from another video, then there is always close to 5k on it for the brief couple months out.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 10 ай бұрын
I don't think it matters how good it is, people who can afford a new Porsche aren't going to opt for a Chinese car, whether that's fair or not. Porsche is safe for now.
@jonathanf.9395
@jonathanf.9395 10 ай бұрын
He said it will sellin UK for £50k. That's barely competing with a Model 3, forget Porche.
@mikeymike1792
@mikeymike1792 10 ай бұрын
Only if they get an electric sports car out there. Otherwise, MG is going to steal quite the march on them.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 10 ай бұрын
That's why Audi execs should be worried Or Alpine for that matter!
@jimmyh6601
@jimmyh6601 10 ай бұрын
Only if you suffer from badge snobbery, this looks better than any Porsche.
@1313hyme
@1313hyme 10 ай бұрын
I totally agreed. But, .... There is a "but" factor. When smartphone first came out, I wouldn't buy any phone other than Samsung. Now, I wouldn't buy any phone other than Xiaomi or Huawei. 😉
@adrianhjordan1981
@adrianhjordan1981 10 ай бұрын
How many times did Elliot use the term "dystopian"?? I think he needs to look up the definition of that word!! 😂
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 10 ай бұрын
It looks like something out of a movie that depicts a dystopian future. It would look very much at home in cyberpunk 2077 or Blade Runner or Akira. I mean I think hopeful visions of the future should have cool sports cars in them too, but that's just me.
@Beeeeeeeeeee
@Beeeeeeeeeee 10 ай бұрын
3. He used it 3 times.
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
​@@AlRoderick only that Cyberpunk got it right with less EVs and more alcohol fueled combustion cars
@simonhenry7867
@simonhenry7867 10 ай бұрын
"very bad or unfair society in which there is a lot of suffering,"
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 10 ай бұрын
suffering and misery aren't what I would describe that MG sports car I hope he didn't mean that meaning of the word or he just picked it out of his brain because it sounded good yep I think I hit the nail on the head LOL
@sullysullivan1187
@sullysullivan1187 10 ай бұрын
That thing is gorgeous. Imagine it in a dark green with a tan interior 😍
@ds2000
@ds2000 10 ай бұрын
Without being awkward, how can you say it handles well while only pootling around in the city?
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 10 ай бұрын
Stop being so polite (you must be a UK person). Exactly! this guy was just full of UK biased MGism. He told us nothing about the car. Nothing of any use.
@ds2000
@ds2000 10 ай бұрын
@@Mexxx65 good guess but I don’t like troll. Always much better to be polite. In a few of the shots it looked like it was rattling a bit front to back. It’s a nice looking car but those rear lights are truly awful
@CoroDan
@CoroDan 10 ай бұрын
@@ds2000 Seriously, this review sucked. "Best car ever made", "perfect for our dystopian future"...my God! Dude needs some honest, pointed criticism if he's going to improve. We need to have access to good, accurate information...not utter bollocks.
@richardperry9218
@richardperry9218 10 ай бұрын
Sorry but the reviewer is an amateur. “Scissor doors the most important part of a sports car”. Really ?!? “Not much bigger than the MGF - only 30cm wider” that’s a huge amount bigger. This guy is leagues below the other Fully Charged presenters - badly diluting the brand in my opinion.
@choddo
@choddo 10 ай бұрын
@@richardperry9218 slightly heavier... by 80% ;)
@Berenvacht
@Berenvacht 10 ай бұрын
This is quite the car, I like the idea and design. What's interesting to me is that I see hints of: Lexus LC500, Alpine A110 and Porsche 911 on the outside, and Corvette C8, Tesla, Ferrari on the inside.
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 10 ай бұрын
Can deff see A110!
@wangyaohan8824
@wangyaohan8824 10 ай бұрын
I really can see that all of them have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel.
@pablofb75
@pablofb75 10 ай бұрын
Could you imagine a dashboard with just round dials?
@justmechanicthings
@justmechanicthings 10 ай бұрын
Maybe back in the 70's
@TrueSkyl1n3
@TrueSkyl1n3 10 ай бұрын
@@justmechanicthingsYou must be one of these people that clammers for 5G masts everywhere because 4G is “stone age technology” 😂
@craigix
@craigix 10 ай бұрын
ok grandad, do you also have a nokia phone? 🤣
@neilhudson7099
@neilhudson7099 10 ай бұрын
Sports cars have traditionally been lightweight for many reasons. Limited market and heavy batteries mean manufacturers haven’t risked making ev sports cars, 1850kgs isn’t lightweight, technology will improve but unless as a modern car with safety kit it’s near or under 1200kgs it’s missing the true nimbleness and lightweight sports car feel.
@Error6503
@Error6503 10 ай бұрын
Nimbleness is more a function of power curves and moment of inertia; with the instant-on torque of an electric motor and the low center of gravity of the battery pack, an EV could be just as nimble any sports car of old. Steer-by-wire means you can dial in any sort of desired feedback to match expectations too.
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 10 ай бұрын
I think 1200 kg is a bit unrealistic these days unless you're going for an MX-5. Even the Boxter is north of 1400 kg.
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 10 ай бұрын
@@drunkenhobo8020 Project V is 1190kg
@benrgrogan
@benrgrogan 10 ай бұрын
​@@DavidKnowles0 I'm very excited for the Caterham but all the carbon fibre and the bespoke sports car platform required to achieve that low weight add cost.The Caterham is £30k more than this MG, and no doubt it won't stand up as well in a crash.
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 10 ай бұрын
It was more of a response to how 1200kg is unrealistic today. A weight below that has been achieve and has energy density of batteries improve we should start to see some big weight walls over the next 15 years@@benrgrogan
@JeffMiletich
@JeffMiletich 10 ай бұрын
Would have been nice to include a daytime shot so we could see what the car looks like.
@soennecken8
@soennecken8 10 ай бұрын
There is a single characteristic shared by all true sports cars since about 2000, which they do not share with the majority of other cars. Lamborghini, Ferrari, most Königseggs, Porsche 911, Pagani, Audi S8, BMW M, Mazda MX5, new Tesla Roadster (not the original Roadster and not the Model S Plaid), and others: the brake calipers are as close as practicable to the car's centre of mass. That is, the front brake calipers are to the rear of the disk and the rear brake calipers are to the front of the disk. Very few true sports cars do not have this brake caliper mounting pattern. Of course there is a random smattering of ordinary cars which do this too (eg: Chrysler 300C, pre-2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee). Note that MG engineers decided to mount their brake calipers where they should be on a sports car. If they did this right, they probably did a few other things right too.
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 10 ай бұрын
What is the writer of this on? 'thrown off their stodgy reputation' yet the car weighs more than 2 mgbs combined 'best car ever made' a ludicrous thing to say about a sports car that weighs more than a land rover evoque or a bugatti veyron 'blast on a b road' if this thing even fits on a b road i'd be impressed. you'd spend the whole time terrified of something coming round a corner and smashing your mirrors off or scratching your paint. I think there is sooo much potential in the sports car market for evs, but this misses the mark by a country mile.
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 10 ай бұрын
They really try hard to make chinese cars look good. Very weird.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
And if it's twice as good as an MGB, What do you get when you multiply two times zero?
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 10 ай бұрын
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck eh?
@everpuremusic
@everpuremusic 10 ай бұрын
Porsche will just shrug and come out with the next generation Boxster and Cayman EVs at max. 1500 kg, with 10x the boot space back and front combined, and a classy cockpit. But most likely also at another price tag. Until then, this new MG is definitely something to look forward to!
@UKenGB
@UKenGB 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't hold your breath for a 1500kg Porsche EV.
@OlavAlexanderMjelde
@OlavAlexanderMjelde 10 ай бұрын
​@@UKenGB yep, the Taycans arent really that light.
@barbarusbloodshed6347
@barbarusbloodshed6347 10 ай бұрын
I think if anyone's able to make a good compact EV sports car it would be Porsche. But I'm not sure whether they're biting off more than they can chew with it. It seems to me the tide's already turning, EVs have become way more unattractive than they were a few years ago, and talking of sports cars we're talking about a potential buyer who was skeptical of EVs to begin with. The Porsche EV roadster might become a devastating flop. I certainly wouldn't rule that out.
@thecursed01
@thecursed01 10 ай бұрын
in 10 years there will be as many european car brands as smart/mobile phone brands
@everpuremusic
@everpuremusic 10 ай бұрын
@@thecursed01 Hear, hear... 🤷‍♂
@hannthenan
@hannthenan 10 ай бұрын
Can already tell this car isn't going to do very well.
@tonychallinor6721
@tonychallinor6721 4 ай бұрын
Oh it is - I have driven one and this will be my next car!
@1samm1
@1samm1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning some downsides as well that actually do feel like downsides to me too. Makes the video feel more real and honest than many happy-happy reviews of fun cars out there
@martink.9442
@martink.9442 10 ай бұрын
A nice Chinese looking car isn't Porsches nightmare. The quality and reputation of Porsche is way in a other dimension.
@TD1237
@TD1237 10 ай бұрын
Reputation, sure. Quality, most likely not. Putting aside existing preconceptions, Chinese cars are extremely reliable from a statistical standpoint.
@martink.9442
@martink.9442 10 ай бұрын
@@TD1237 You got no knowledge about Porsche i think.
@TD1237
@TD1237 10 ай бұрын
@@martink.9442 Well, you know German cars are generally known to be unreliable, right? In fairness though, Porsche seems to be an exception, surprisingly, so you're not wrong in that sense. But, as I said earlier, modern Chinese cars are notoriously reliable, so make of that what you will.
@SolvieCapital
@SolvieCapital 10 ай бұрын
Of the Porsche's I have owned, 944 and 911, quality was not exactly a feature. Expensive repairs, dealerships who would say things like "yeah, they all break like that at ____ miles", and expensive maintenance. Or don't buy this series of car, if you do they break this way and that way, etceteras... that's Porsche. Dealers who imagine that's just what you should expect from an expensive toy. Of course, that's just my experience, maybe your's has been better? Where as I would expect a Chinese EV like this to be pretty much an iPhone on wheels, very little maintenance if any.
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 10 ай бұрын
You're right like they said this new car was a Tesla killer 3 years ago but wait tesla is still the leading brand out there and when the Model 2 comes out they still will be and I don't own a Tesla never driven one yes I would love one for sure but I know this they are safe well designed and pretty reliable lol.
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 10 ай бұрын
I hope it sell well so that they can make a fix roof one.. It has the possibility to be better in many terms, range, body rigidity etc.. And cheaper
@narvuntien
@narvuntien 10 ай бұрын
I think with the handling of the MG4 and this is basically a sports car on top of the MG4 platform it was likely to impress.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 10 ай бұрын
This is not a sports car, it's a step in the right direction but this is 100% a luxury car like a mercedes SL. A sports car is about an engaing driving experience, we actively do not want easy, light controls, and comfort at the expense of weight. Also everyone knows P Zeros are awful tyres, making out like they make it a sports car is really ridiculous. I do want to see actual electric sports cars, I don't want a 360 mile range 1850kg car, I want a 150 mile 1100kg car with a small rear motor, around 300bhp, and a manual gearbox woth actual ratios that allow high toque at low speeds and lower motor rpms and energy use at high speeds. People say EVs don't need gearboxes but that's just because they massively overcompensate with power, I'd much prefer a difficult, engaging experience, and that's what makes a sports car.
@philthewriter
@philthewriter 10 ай бұрын
30cm longer, and 30cm wider? How is that not a lot?!
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't sure if it was 30cm wider, or 13cm wider.
@philthewriter
@philthewriter 10 ай бұрын
@@logicalChimp Yes I went back and checked that as well, sub titles seemed to think it was 30 as well. That's a lot. Admittedly the MGF/TF was a small car by today's standards, but in which case better left unmentioned, rather than "it's only a foot wider..."
@kevinjager124
@kevinjager124 7 ай бұрын
The best far ever made, seriously? Cmon man 😂😂😂
@supersonic79
@supersonic79 10 ай бұрын
Shame this was filmed at night, would’ve been good to see it in daylight. Sounds good. I hope it does well.
@sunrisejak2709
@sunrisejak2709 9 ай бұрын
Is it really "steer by wire"? Does the steering ratio change with speed? At slow speeds does the steering govdull lock in just a 180 degree rotation? How many turns of the wheel to go lock to lock. If it is indeed steering by wire and programmable it might make sense to have a yoke steering wheel.
@you2be839
@you2be839 10 ай бұрын
It does look nice as a sports car for those Sunday afternoon drives across the fields or coastal roads with your significant half... but you lost me when drive-by-wire was mentioned!!
@benrgrogan
@benrgrogan 10 ай бұрын
What's wrong with drive by wire? Its been standard on race cars for years. Standard on airplanes for decades.
@you2be839
@you2be839 10 ай бұрын
@@benrgrogan Plenty of information on the Internet about that, up to you to make your own judgement of such technology on road cars and why it hasn't been used on road cars... And it's been standard on airplanes for a very good reason: weight reduction and complexity of all the cabling and linkages that would have to be used on larger and larger airplanes. I'm unaware of any racing competition that uses steering-by-wire, which is the drive-by-wire component discussed here! There's nothing complex about having a steering shaft connecting the steering wheel to the steering arms and to the wheels, and steer-by-wire attempts to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, but that comes with its own issues and future problems...
@TheShrouded
@TheShrouded 9 ай бұрын
I was also thinking of a stripped down version too. But not of the screens and materials but the really heavy and expensive stuff. The scissor doors and the automated convertible roof. Just make regular doors and fixed coupe roof. That could really slash the weight and cost
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton 10 ай бұрын
I don't think it is advisable to declare - "I'm shocked"! - when you get into an electric car!
@brummiesalteno-81
@brummiesalteno-81 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids 10 ай бұрын
Same with 'Blown Away' for ice sports cars
@kooooons
@kooooons 10 ай бұрын
1800kg. Big battery and dual motor is 2000 kg. Shame. Keep in mind: the 77 kWh battery of VW is around 500 kg and that's not cutting edge tech. So the cyberster without a battery will still weigh over 500 kg more than a current gen MX-5.
@tonychallinor6721
@tonychallinor6721 4 ай бұрын
and........??
@kooooons
@kooooons 4 ай бұрын
@@tonychallinor6721 and... the battery is supposedly what makes EVs heavy. If an EV sports car without its battery turns out to be heavier than an ICE sports car then that's a disappointment.
@badway420
@badway420 10 ай бұрын
This car poses literally zero threat to Porsche.
@robbrand922
@robbrand922 10 ай бұрын
Well, Porsche's biggest market China sales down 40% since Q3 of last year.
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kindly don't type nonsense. Nobody has any idea how fickle drivers can be when it comes to cars. All it needs is a "face" to crack on how fabulous a car is and people immediately start to consider their options. You'll get there eventually. Well, hopefully that is.
@darkmist977
@darkmist977 10 ай бұрын
@@robbrand922 No big sellers from Porsche came out last year, this year we are getting another Taycan, Panamera, Macan & EV Macan. If the sales are poor this year then there is a legitimate issue.
@robbrand922
@robbrand922 10 ай бұрын
@@darkmist977 I am not saying this car is a direct competitor of Porsche but there are many competitors coming. Chinese car market is so fxcking crazy. That is crazy good.
@Fldllse
@Fldllse 10 ай бұрын
Because the are completely not comparable besides the fact that they are both sports oriented. This car cost half of what a porche costs
@julesdingle
@julesdingle 10 ай бұрын
love it, hate the name... what is wrong with Roadster... cyberster indeed, and yes strip it down
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 10 ай бұрын
Alternatively, MG have _never_ used the name MGE.
@MandyFlame
@MandyFlame 10 ай бұрын
Fairly sure Tesla would object to it being called Roadster. But yes, Cyberster is just nasty
@julesdingle
@julesdingle 10 ай бұрын
@@MandyFlame MG Roadster was the original
@swecreations
@swecreations 10 ай бұрын
30cm wider is not a lot? Sorry what? 😂
@Beechcliffe
@Beechcliffe 10 ай бұрын
Its all over the place this review. The lights having essence of Union Flag is a stretch and the best car ever made? With black plastic and 4 silly screens. Nice production value though.
@swecreations
@swecreations 10 ай бұрын
8:05 a mention of why the charging ports look different would be nice here. China has it's own standardized charging plug, which every car in China uses, just like how Europe has a standard plug and America does.
@davidk.d.7591
@davidk.d.7591 10 ай бұрын
America doesn't really have a standard yet. Though Tesla's own might become that soon
@swecreations
@swecreations 10 ай бұрын
@@davidk.d.7591 Tesla and CCS1 will be cross-compatible later this year, so at that point it will just be a $100 adapter between each of them, and there will effectively be a single standard.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 10 ай бұрын
@@davidk.d.7591USA now has a defacto standard - NACS (Tesla charging in fancy clothes) - given that virtually every automaker that sells in the US has committed to using NACS from 2025 (and providing adapters from this year, iirc)
@riotofmyown
@riotofmyown 10 ай бұрын
I was interested in this car when they announced it, but I’ve just gone back to ICE following a 30k mile stint with an M3LR, and I’m sooo glad to be back. Best two days of EV ownership? Same as a boat. Depreciation and degradation after 30k miles, 45% and 12% respectively. You can probably live with the former, but the latter is a deal breaker and also muddies the used market.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 10 ай бұрын
Best two days?
@riotofmyown
@riotofmyown 10 ай бұрын
@@CosmicSeeker69 It’s an old joke. The best two days for a boat owner are the day they buy it and the day that they sell it.
@williambrownlie6929
@williambrownlie6929 10 ай бұрын
You can’t be serious, the first rule about buying a car is never view it at night!!
@itstackyandtawdrytime
@itstackyandtawdrytime 10 ай бұрын
I would hazard a guess that the first rule about reviewing a car would be, when you have the allotted time to review it.
@you2be839
@you2be839 10 ай бұрын
But, but, that's how driving in a dystopian future would look like!...
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
My revivifier says, "I'd like to meet the guy who designed the MGB's gearbox at night - in a dark alley!" ✊
@LCOF
@LCOF 10 ай бұрын
I'd hazard a guess that they filmed this immediately after getting the keys just so they can be the first video out on KZbin.
@Timeless_Essence
@Timeless_Essence 10 ай бұрын
its time for a change
@erwindewit4073
@erwindewit4073 10 ай бұрын
I like! And yes, I'd like electric windows, cruise control (adaptive don't really care), airconditioning and good seats. Make it cheaper (I don't care about the luxuries) and hmm, enticing!
@charlesuk5358
@charlesuk5358 10 ай бұрын
Love the styling, and especially the return of a fabric roof ( depending on how it holds up)
@scottaubrey8392
@scottaubrey8392 10 ай бұрын
“I have the money for a Porsche, but I think I’ll get an MG” - No one, ever.
@beardytechie4605
@beardytechie4605 10 ай бұрын
"I have the money for a Porsche, but I can buy an MG cyberster, and an MG 5 for daily commute, and have money left over for a grand holiday"
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 10 ай бұрын
I have to say the MG is the best-looking sports car out there it going to be one hell of a head turner that's for sure. and 4 seconds is no slouch either for a rear-wheel drive car god knows if they come out with a Dual motor one all I can say is you, lucky devil.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! The idea that the average Porsche buyer is going to settle for a second rate Chinese car instead is just laughable. The most prestigious car brands are not competing with the least prestigious.
@jsanders100
@jsanders100 10 ай бұрын
@@bugsygoook, until the Chinese car matches the quality and style and beats the performance. Porsche know they are up against it with EVs
@srbmckenzie
@srbmckenzie 10 ай бұрын
You're not getting a new Porsche, let alone an EV for that sum of money....
@russh6414
@russh6414 10 ай бұрын
Is the prototype a LH drive? I like everything about the MG except the name of the car. Cyber this and cyber that. That said, Open tops and video screens dont co-exist well in the weather over time.
@MrWobling
@MrWobling 10 ай бұрын
"Best car ever made?" - judging by the drive and ride of my ZS EV, I'm more than a little sceptical 😂
@swanvictor887
@swanvictor887 10 ай бұрын
well, sounds like a nice car...I wonder what it looks like?
@oldman1944
@oldman1944 10 ай бұрын
Those screens are a nightmare and the name is terrible. I don't think Porsche should be too worried. I feel like you got a bit overly enthusiastic with this one.
@mickhursey4802
@mickhursey4802 10 ай бұрын
Somehow a car review in the dark seems a bit daft🤦‍♂️
@Clappers89
@Clappers89 10 ай бұрын
Seems like a decent car however personally too many screens for my liking
@Thegeordiemonkey
@Thegeordiemonkey 10 ай бұрын
Cyberster sounds like a name Max & Paddy would give to a mate who likes going on the dark web.😂
@akf2000
@akf2000 10 ай бұрын
Well THAT'S put me right off
@Root_boy
@Root_boy 10 ай бұрын
It's a terrible name. Literately just a conflation of cybertruck and roadster.
@simonhenry7867
@simonhenry7867 10 ай бұрын
The have the MGX name range. MGE MGR
@PG-gs5vb
@PG-gs5vb 10 ай бұрын
The way they're trying to sell this review is awkward. Overly click-bitey title and "best car ever made" right in the intro? For real?
@ab3000x
@ab3000x 10 ай бұрын
If this was my car: The lower front lip is droopy - aftermarket lower valance could solve that. I'd prefer a black interior without the piano black bits. The name is horrible so de-badging the rear emblem is a must. The wheels are pretty ugly so there's another thing to update. Hopefully, the second version of this (in a few years) has less screens. Don't think that I don't like the car but it needs some work. It's a very good first attempt.
@jimmys6566
@jimmys6566 10 ай бұрын
Fewer screens
@wangyaohan8824
@wangyaohan8824 10 ай бұрын
fewer screen sound impossible for chinese car (I meant it). OR reduce it to 1 but continuesly from left to right (you can browse many 2024 chinese cars, they have this kind of screen).
@jimmys6566
@jimmys6566 10 ай бұрын
@wangyaohan8824 less screen is good, or fewer screens....
@wangyaohan8824
@wangyaohan8824 10 ай бұрын
@@jimmys6566 reduce to 1, 40inch-ish wide (not 3-4 screens combined to 1 panel).
@jamessankey01
@jamessankey01 10 ай бұрын
I don't know the count of "dystopian" in this video, but I'm sure you're unsure of the definition. Otherwise, solid review. Thanks.
@flosenmosen
@flosenmosen 10 ай бұрын
This isn't Porsche's nightmare; it's more like the nightmare version of Porsche.
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
Where is the Porsche Equivalent or Tesla roadster. Cant see it....2025 is when Porsche boxster drops
@ulysees321
@ulysees321 10 ай бұрын
Wonder if it will lose 50% of its rrp in less than 12months like the Taycan 😂
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 10 ай бұрын
Porsche is thinking about moving their factory to China soon!
@wangyaohan8824
@wangyaohan8824 10 ай бұрын
​@@namelesswarrior4760yes, Porsche factory will be in northern china, being built.
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 10 ай бұрын
@@wangyaohan8824 Yes! I know. I was trolling @flosser
@edesp
@edesp 10 ай бұрын
"best car ever made" is a strange claim to make for any journalist. Big statements like that only help to discredit the valid points made.
@phillheth
@phillheth 10 ай бұрын
Who came up with the name "Cyber ster" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it.
@sIightIybored
@sIightIybored 10 ай бұрын
I had been hoping that was just a placeholder. But time is closing and it looks more likely I'm wrong.
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids 10 ай бұрын
Porsche Boxter
@phillheth
@phillheth 10 ай бұрын
@@Y2Kvids what about it ?
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids 10 ай бұрын
@@phillheth it's automotive enough. Box ter .. Cybers ter .. Forest er
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
Elliot pronounced it "Cybah Stah"!
@faustovieira
@faustovieira 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it is a Chinese designed car that has nothing British about it. The biggest gripe is the doors. You don't see many cars with those doors because they add weight and complexity to the car. Remove the unnecessary screens, redesign the back, and maybe it will look more like a sports car, instead of the looking like a futuristic movie prop.
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
It was designed in London by MG Design Studio
@faustovieira
@faustovieira 10 ай бұрын
@@blademanx that is just depressing...
@dogefromthefuture
@dogefromthefuture 10 ай бұрын
As a porsche owner, I can clearly tell this is Chinese and not German. 😂
@Benjamin_Jehne
@Benjamin_Jehne 10 ай бұрын
Why should a chinese car branded as MG be a nightmare for Porsche? People who buy a Porsche, buy a Porsche or a Ferrari, or Lambo etc. but no chinese BS. Shitty clickbait.
@DavidBrown-bs7gg
@DavidBrown-bs7gg 10 ай бұрын
That bar descending from the dash separating driver from passenger does a good job of preventing the passenger touching the screen
@RoonMian
@RoonMian 10 ай бұрын
For some people that's the good thing, the cargo doesn't get to mess with the music :D
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 10 ай бұрын
I believe the technical term is an "Oh, S***!" bar.
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 10 ай бұрын
Had this same thought. No radio fiddling!
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
That is the Cop Edition.
@Lucas-vd2gx
@Lucas-vd2gx 10 ай бұрын
"This might be the best car ever made" then proceeds to complain about the black piano pieces and the amount of screens and how they are blocked by the steering wheel LMAO
@PhilRounds
@PhilRounds 10 ай бұрын
The old MGs (B, BGt, Midget...) were basic and affordable. This rich-man's car is about as far from the old cars as a Lear Jet. Also, how does it actually drive at the limit? That's what a sports car is for. Can you slide it through a corner? four wheel drift? hand brake turn? Handling isn't measured by tooling around town and goosing the throttle now and then. How about giving one of these to Richard Hammons and seeing if he can keep from rolling it down a ravine? :P
@jsanders100
@jsanders100 10 ай бұрын
Elliot keeps on about its Britishness - this is 100% Chinese car. I can’t believe that people fall for this
@fullychargedshow
@fullychargedshow 10 ай бұрын
Let's be real for a moment. Elliot lives in China. This car was very explicitly filmed in China. It's a Chinese car We have mentioned tens of thousands of times on the show that China is rapidly becoming the dominant global car manufacturer, yes, MG was a British brand decades ago. No one is trying to hoodwink anyone that this isn a British car. It's 100% Chinese.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 10 ай бұрын
Lightweight Trophy version would be ideal, as would a owner-installable hardtop.
@Dozer67
@Dozer67 4 ай бұрын
A friend of mine is selling the reg plate MG OPEN on Gumtree. I think it's actually M6 0PEN but it's easily adapted with a number plate screw 🙂
@oFeXo
@oFeXo 10 ай бұрын
Is this a parody? Did I miss the sarcasm-warning-sign?
@AndrewHelgeCox
@AndrewHelgeCox 10 ай бұрын
Soundtrack: Neon Nox, Syndicate Shadow, Prelude.
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 10 ай бұрын
What an awful name for a car. Let's all please remember THIS IS NOT A BRITISH CAR. This is a Chinese car, with an old British badge stuck on it. SAIC Motor Corp LTD., is owned by the Chinese government..... If you buy this car, you are directly funding the Chinese government.
@evatrics5902
@evatrics5902 10 ай бұрын
That might have been exciting mif you showed the car in the daylight. As a professional photographer if I want to under emphasize flaws, I lower the light levels so that they don’t show.
@markburton8303
@markburton8303 10 ай бұрын
Having just monstered the Tesla Plaid around the ring, this is no threat to Porsche.
@JackScarlett1
@JackScarlett1 10 ай бұрын
I anticipate the electric Boxster will be better to drive - but where is it?? MG will be facelifting and tweaking this car by the time it shows up
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi 10 ай бұрын
I saw that - I think I will wait for the production version to come out to see if that still stacks up - that Taycan GTS was a hollowed out shell (no rear seats, no interior carpet, no headliner, no rear door panels, no soundproofing, carpet removed from the trunk, no passenger infotainment, carbon fibre seats etc etc) and with who knows what other suspension, tyre, brake and battery mods probably the best part of 200-300kg lighter than what you can buy off the showroom floor.
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
​@@TB-up4xi Taycan is 2200kg but im sure it handles well...with its 50k battery
@DavidKnowles0
@DavidKnowles0 10 ай бұрын
@@JackScarlett1 An have you seen how ugly the Electric Boxster is.
@igbatious
@igbatious 10 ай бұрын
The greatest car ever made? Really? That's what's said when cars are reviewed by people that don't know anything about cars.
@erhanileri
@erhanileri 10 ай бұрын
Nice car but this video looks like a sales pitch than a review
@Simon-nx1sc
@Simon-nx1sc 10 ай бұрын
True, Elliot is always like this and it irritates me as well. However I suspect they have no choice if they want to be left at peace in China & get acces to first looks of cars quickly
@chr70
@chr70 7 ай бұрын
Unlike many other comments - I really like the review, especially by night. There are already many daytime shots, and here you can see the illumination very nicely. For me, it isn't really a sports car, but a cruiser. It would replace my former Mercedes CLK Cabriolet. For that reason weight is not so important. I am strongly waiting for that car, and for sure will be one oft the first customers in Germany.
@manek881106
@manek881106 10 ай бұрын
I don't know, I have a feeling that you are more like sellers than reviewers of Chinese cars lately... 👎 You are losing your reputation in my eyes. 🙈
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 10 ай бұрын
So true. It is embarrassing.
@jaker3151
@jaker3151 8 ай бұрын
Regardless of where the cars are made, many of the reviews on this channel are like adverts for or marketing releases by the car companies rather than proper reviews for the consumer.
@fishyerik
@fishyerik 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if Porsche fans are upset? I mean, it seems like it could be a nightmare for som models of Mazda, Honda, Hyundai and similar, it doesn't strike me as a cheaper alternative to a Porsche exactly. Favorite moment, "Brembo brakes all around, obviously very important", with a voice that implies he has no clue what that means. Second favorite, the tires it comes with presented an important reason to why it's supposedly possibly the greatest car ever made. Really funny episode, and the car might be well worth the money, for anyone looking for a better alternative to a Miata. Possibly the best Elliot episode, so far. I wouldn't be surprised if Robert could get that range out of it, without trying.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 10 ай бұрын
Someone should tell MG to stick their fingers out of their hole and send their brightest to make an EU ready small, affordable EV that can rival the BYD Seagull I respect this work of quality engineering and design; but we're all sick to the back teeth with all of these high end MenoPorsches for mid life crisis dwelling men with more euros/pounds/dollars than braincells and plugged hairs to rub together.
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 10 ай бұрын
They already have it’s called the MG3 less than £20k ?
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
Sound like a hater
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 10 ай бұрын
I am more concerned about all the electric cars grinding to a halt in these cold conditions. It's all over the internet.
@SamIAm-kz4hg
@SamIAm-kz4hg 10 ай бұрын
Why do the British always seem to review British cars so positively? I have my doubts.
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 10 ай бұрын
Well, it isnt British, and Elliot lives and works in China and does mostly pretty positive reviews of Chinese made cars... I would think that helps with access and makes life a bit easier over there. But he does give the stats and you are free to make you own judgement.
@petesplaneta9340
@petesplaneta9340 10 ай бұрын
What a lovely fun looking car. Couple of tweaks and it could be amazing. Just hope they get the uk price point right as it could make it a runaway success!
@davidhall7744
@davidhall7744 10 ай бұрын
That dashboard reminds me of a low quality arcade driving machine 😂
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw 10 ай бұрын
To those critical commenters I imagine Elliot's doing the best with what he has been given but it would have been better if he left out the references to Porsche and first drive etc. (although maybe it was first and it took Fully Charged months to find a slot on their YT uploads...tho' seems unlikely). For those wanting daylight views can I suggest the longer, more comprehensive review by Wheelsboy done 3 months ago at a location more suitable for this car. Personally one of my more enjoyable experiences was travelling through the National Parks of the Western US and Canada in a convertible 2 door hire car. It was a crap handling car with many inconveniences (limited luggage space in which the manually operated top intruded into and noisy with it up) but cruising through Yosemite, Canyon lands, Bryce canyon , Yellowstone, Banff and B.C Canada with the top down with some nice chill music on was fantastic. This MG would be even better for that by a country mile.
@itekani
@itekani 10 ай бұрын
It looks huge, and weighs like most electric crossovers. I would just buy a Tesla Model 3 Performance. If I really wanted a roadster just for fun it would still have to be a Miata.
@blademanx
@blademanx 10 ай бұрын
Go watch the track videos. This corners flat and handles good...also x power will be 540hp 3 secs to 60
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 10 ай бұрын
"dystopian future" does not mean what he thinks it means . . . I think dystopian futures are populated by bikes, which don't need long and complicated supply chains to merely get on the road, let alone travel across continents.
@nathanwolf5547
@nathanwolf5547 10 ай бұрын
I was at the UK launch. An incredible machine.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 ай бұрын
Heard a rumour that SpaceX is planning to launch the Cyberster...
@grayone321
@grayone321 10 ай бұрын
Looks like a car worth considering. The agility needs to be proved as does the ability to cope with any of the UK roads as even the motorways have potholes and poor surfaces. But if it does go well I don't think a price of around £50k is a total turn off, Lets do a proper road test. Agree about the multiple screens but would want comfort not a stripped out version.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 10 ай бұрын
Try 60k plus....
@MihneaStoian
@MihneaStoian 10 ай бұрын
1850kg!?! those screens look awful with those giant bezels.
@vorg_
@vorg_ 10 ай бұрын
This feels a bit like a generic Chinese EV with a well-known badge. The only thing I'm actually curious about is what the little paw-print button does in the back.
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 10 ай бұрын
It weighs nearly 2 tons, calling this a sports car is like calling me an olympian
@Yorgos56
@Yorgos56 10 ай бұрын
or calling an elephant a ballerina
@graemeglass7566
@graemeglass7566 10 ай бұрын
Yet a cybertruck beat a Porsche 911 while it was towing a 911😂
@graemeglass7566
@graemeglass7566 10 ай бұрын
0-60 mph in 3.2 seconds. It is a great sports car. Start crying in your beer boys😂
@Knnnkncht
@Knnnkncht 10 ай бұрын
@@graemeglass7566for an 1/8th (not 1/4) Mile against a much weaker MANUAL Porsche Carrera T lol
@postahundredcommentsbutonl4408
@postahundredcommentsbutonl4408 10 ай бұрын
A convertible sports car is meant for you to enjoy the wind, not to run on the track. The track performance of the MX5 is not as good as that of the sedan. Everyone still likes it.
@crazy_bird2191
@crazy_bird2191 10 ай бұрын
Like people have said, show us the car. Not just you talking to the camera. 60,000 p is a lot of coin! Toyota is changing the game.
@spent808
@spent808 10 ай бұрын
'...Is Porsche's Nightmare...'.....Good grief who thinks up these titles? Nothing more than a hard sell on Chinese tat. Everything about this car is wonderful! GTFO.
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 10 ай бұрын
They must please their chinese masters
@mejohaneriksson
@mejohaneriksson 10 ай бұрын
It really isn’t, not even a little bit… Like the fact that you can’t even turn down the fan if you receive a phone call. And know, you newer pushed a car, not really if you think this can compete..😂
@bill_heywood
@bill_heywood 10 ай бұрын
Great vid Elliot, it is so good that FC have a China correspondent to get their hands on cars early. Of course this is not like an old MG sports car, for a start it will probably be very reliable. Let's just enjoy the fact that MG will be selling a 2 seat electric sports car. The more niches EVs occupy, the better
@nicholasrigg8999
@nicholasrigg8999 10 ай бұрын
It looks fabulous and will surely do well. I can't help thinking Tesla should have concentrated on bringing out the Roadster instead of fannying around with the Cybertruck...
@ogloftus
@ogloftus 10 ай бұрын
Porsche are certainly not worried
@UKenGB
@UKenGB 10 ай бұрын
Why compare the weight of this new car with a previous and much smaller model from what, 20 years ago. All new cars are in any case much heavier than their predecessors from so many years ago so it's a rather pointless comparison but which always crops up when discussing EVs. The Cyberster is most similar to a Mercedes SL class car in size and purpose and which with its Internal Combustion Engine, in fact weighs about the same as the Cyberster. I think Elliot is incorrect about the steering. He claims it is 'Steer by Wire' when everything I've seen and read about the Cyberster states unequivocally that it is NOT and may be why the yoke type steering wheel is no longer in evidence. I hope I'm wrong and it IS SbW and the yoke will be available, but I strongly suspect that at least the first versions will be regular mechanical steering, albeit assisted, like most other cars. The Tesla Cybertruck is I believe SbW and Toyota possibly have it in one of their new EVs, but can't trust anything Toyota say these days. Apart from that, no other SbW cars I know of in production. Unless the Cyberster actually is, but sadly, I think not.
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