The Missing Martin's Case - Accident or something more Sinister?

#missing #disappeared #crime
In the weeks leading up to Christmas 1958, the Martin family were looking forward to gathering greenery for their home decorations. They set off in father Kenneth’s
1954 cream and red Ford Country Squire Station Wagon, just after lunch...it was the last time they were ever seen alive.
A important piece of evidence would point the finger of suspicion towards their estranged son, and several months later a drilling rig disturbed the family’s final resting place; but still their car has never been brought to the surface.
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[@eileencorsano7755]

Thank you Oddie for all that you do for us 💕💕

[@ObsoleteOddity]

@@eileencorsano7755 Thank you kindly Eileen

[@aubreyshelton3217]

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[@aubreyshelton3217]

Thank you for the upload 💝

[@angeladuffield2860]

I'm so happy to see you're video up,I do love you're voice and I hadn't heard of this particular case,very sad.

[@phinhnanthasone1231]

Even if he hated his parents, not caring for his sisters was disturbingly cold

[@dfuher968]

Yes, thats the 1 thing, thats always made me wonder. Everything else could be explained. But even if he was completely fallen out with his parents, how could he have just not cared about his young sisters?

[@xTheGoddessOfChaosx]

they were just witnesses in his eyes..

[@scenicenglish7465]

True, but I think the reason for killing the sisters was in addition to being witnesses, was that if he felt his parents were harsher to him than his sisters or that the parents loved his sisters more than him then I can see the resentment he could have had towards them because he would have felt they were loyal to his parents and he being the black sheep.

[@randomcharacter2337]

It could even be to as a means to have as little association with his families death. He already did not help in the search. If he gave people a chance to question him in person, it would probably be harder for him to keep it under wraps. It is easier to get away with murder if the detectives and citizens are left with more questions than answers. They already have little evidence to interrogate him, so it was easy for him to get away with ignoring it all. Moving to Hawaii was probably an indicator. He was trying to leave it all.

[@mk1604]

Adventures with Purpose searched for the car using sonar a year ago. They have two episodes on their KZbin channel. They haven’t given up on finding the car. Apparently the Columbia river is very dangerous. Love your channel Oddie! Greetings from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ObsoleteOddity]

😊 Much appreciated, thank you kindly!

[@katturney]

That is a great channel. Super interesting how they find so many missing people. Highly recommend the channel

[@joseleswopes1400]

Yes I am a member of AWP Adventures With Purpose 🌹 You could contact them about this 🌹

[@angelatroutman7128]

Thats funny. While listing to this i too was going to forward it to awp. Thanks for the info.

[@laurih.t.8723]

I'm so glad I saw your comment, as I was just about to suggest this group go search. I live in Oregon, about 2 hours away from Portland. I follow their channel and will go find these 2 videos you mention, after finishing this one of course. 🙂 Cheers to Scotland! My ancestry is mainly Scottish, Irish, English... Maiden name is Houghton. I understand there is a Houghton Manor somewhere along the Scotland east coast and have always wanted to go visit it and learn more about its history. Blessings from Oregon 🌲

[@5809AUJG]

Living lifelong in Washington state, I've heard about this case off and on for many years, Oddie Beau. I have come to the conclusion that the son probably was behind this, hated his family, and hired killers to murder them, supplying the gun to do the job. I've never understood why it was never properly investigated, and no real effort was made to bring that car up from the Columbia....it makes no sense. Maybe someday someone will dive and at least try to find it. The other part of it is the failure of law enforcement on both sides of the river to truly investigate. That makes no sense. There are certainly answers....but nobody tried hard enough to get those answers. This case was eminently solvable....but nobody bothered. Tragic as hell.

[@jackyflowers3493]

Maybe the Navy did not want bad press.

[@ilanamillion8942]

There is a channel here on KZbin featuring the team who have made it their mission to find cars (and bodies) missing for many years in rivers and canals. They would be able to find the Martins' car.

[@Lizablue0608]

@@ilanamillion8942 AWP? They’re fantastic 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Mandy7D7]

@@ilanamillion8942 AWP tried and couldn't find it, more than once. The area is very deep with drop-offs and turbulent waters. The car is by now covered many inches to feet in silt. The Mt. Saint Helens volcano also caused a lot of ash to settle. It's not easy.

[@salldarling]

A whole family gone and such little interest by police to get to the truth. Its shockingly sad. Thanks for telling this story

[@peggypasson8794]

I wonder nowadays with cameras drones an such if a car could be spotted from above

[@phionna6672]

Not surprising though. I have found from personal experience...that the police everywhere really pick and choose to which cases they are going to put great effort in. Depends on how much the public wants things solved and especially back in the day, the status of the victims as I'm sure you know. Long story short I had a family friend who worked on the force and said..That it blows her mind how little effort they put into some cases and others they don't sleep trying to solve them. 🙄 🤔

[@moodybluesgurl]

Great mystery story to add to this rainy Sunday morning. Thank you Oddie as always for the treat to the ears and eyes!! Well wishes to you and yours!!!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your very kind feedback - much appreciated 😊

[@cindycalderon455]

This tale sure pulled at the heart strings for me. That poor family. It was as though no one cared. The police were uninterested in investigating properly, especially once the location of the car was determined, Donald was unconcerned for obvious reasons, and how sad no one claimed the 2 girls remains. One would think there'd be other family - siblings of the parents, grandparents, someone. Such a sad story. But as always, you told it so beautifully. Thank you, Oddie!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you! 😊 Glad you enjoyed the presentation my friend!

[@laikanbarth]

You have to pay to collect ashes. You have to pay for the actual cremation and the storage. My sister died two weeks ago and was cremated that’s how I found out Maybe that’s why no one claimed them was because they didn’t want to pay for it? I don’t know tbh. I wouldn’t want my family member just sitting in a storage room somewhere. I have my sisters ashes.

[@axollot]

@@laikanbarth well the estate money was held up for almost a decade and the ashes picked up after a decade. We don't know who picked up either. Brother could have been late.

[@teijaflink2226]

I read that some family member got the ashes and buried them, I could remember totally wrong (so don't take this as the truth) but I slightly remember that I heard they where buried next to their grandmother when she passed away.

[@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934]

@@laikanbarth I’m so sorry for your loss. 🌟👼🌟

[@jaytrace1006]

Thank you, Sir, for bringing this story to light. These folks deserve to be found and laid to rest in a proper, respectful manner.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

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[@westtnskirmishlog6820]

Excellent work as always sir. You are a talented man, and I and many others in the southern US love your work, thank you.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you very much!

[@breadandcircus1]

The negligence, the incompetence of Police was colossal. The son Donald was likely the person who killed in cold blood this lovely family, His behavior gave him away. What a monster, and now he's dead. Never did time in prison, got away with his horrific crimes.

[@ivoneray1472]

I agree 💯

[@TerrierLover1]

It seems to me that they probably traumatized this young gay man so much that he wanted nothing to do with his family. Their deaths seem like an accident

[@smokeynedith3555]

He didn't get away with anything. God sees and knows all. He's in hell right now. His punishment is just now beginning.

[@kina18]

Wouldn't the US Navy have records if he was at the base during the time his family died?

[@thewackycabbage461]

@@kina18 Yes, they would. They'd show if he was on base, deployed elsewhere or on leave. Obviously won't hold records on where he went if on leave.

[@msc8663]

Another great story Oddie! I think the son had something to do with the death of his family. My love to you and Mrs Oddie. Be safe my friend.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

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[@TheKulu42]

Like you, I don't understand why more effort wasn't applied to finding the car. And the way the authorities investigated the disappearance is questionable. I'm suspicious of the son, too, because of the gun. Once again, I enjoyed your presentation!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your interesting insights and positive feedback. much appreciated 😊

[@daynasafranek7807]

I’m from Portland and the Willamette as well as the Columbia River’s (especially near The Gorge) have very swift currents and the Colombia Hood River Gorge can have extremely choppy water. I think for the danger it would be for a car that would be pointless to bring up and probably offer no clues at this point would be fruitless. It’s extremely expensive to recover vehicles and any suspects are long gone or soon to be. My mom was 18 in 1961 and she will be 80 next year. To solve curiosity and close this case they have probably a good idea about is not cost efficient. You put $ in cold cases you have a more pressing need to solve.

[@jackyflowers3493]

They pulled up the Ford Mustang that held Tim Robinson's body in it for about 18 years that had gone off the Willamette river bridge. He was just a skeleton still in his seatbelt..what happened to him? Could have just drove off the bridge.. Wouldn't there have been damage to the bridge back then, and not know why? Many cars, and people go missing in the drink.

[@donnagagne3813]

Why pointless? There might be three people in that car. People who deserve to be properly laid to rest. I don't understand it.

[@patb.j.3358]

Oddie, I totally agree with everything you said. The authorities knew where the vehicle was located. Why didn't they do something?? Why did they just let it sit under the water? You are absolutely right, if the family was important people, they would have drained the river and raised the car the instant they knew where it was. Good to hear your voice again. Take care.

[@coyohti]

Drain the Columbia River? They were lucky to be able to lower the water level. The Columbia is a very large river with a great deal of ship traffic as well as an area of critical wildlife conservation such as salmon spawning grounds. It's already severely compromised and certainly "draining" it, if that's even possible, would be devastating. I don't know much about diving but it seems like the Columbia, with such a vast volume of water moving through it, would be challenging at best. Taking sidescan sonar around the area first would make more sense. The Columbia could have moved that car down river quite a ways in the years since it was knocked loose. It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Adventures With Purpose, who specializes in that sort of thing, as to the feasibility of such a search and recovery project.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your interesting insights and positive feedback. much appreciated 😊

[@ObsoleteOddity]

@coyohti - Apparently AWP have already tried to locate the car, but can’t find it - so they obviously think a recovery is not unfeasible.

[@coyohti]

@@ObsoleteOddity After replying here I looked for more information and discovered that the depth of the Columbia River ranges from 400f to 1000ft. I didn't realize it was so deep which undoubtedly makes things even more challenging.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

True it would be challenging, but I’m guessing far from impossible - if the drilling rig could reach it, and AWP werr looking for it, they must think that it’s possible to reach it.

[@Snickelfritz_]

Thank you for another very fascinating story. The son may have been in New York, but could have hired someone to kill off his family. I am surprised the police never considered this. Keep the stories coming, please Mr. Oddie.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊

[@kina18]

Would he have been making enough money to afford to hire killers? Even the inheritance he eventually got was just modest.

[@BlanketyBlank9050]

Possible that the lover killed them.

[@marykazeck1449]

Born and raised in Portland this story has always interested me..the book is great a must read

[@r.shanethompson7933]

What's the title & author of the book? Still in print? Thanks, Shane

[@valeriejohnson5283]

Hi Oddie! Another odd and sad story for this poor family! Thank you for all you do to bring us these stories. Hopefully one day the whole truth will finally come out. 💙💙

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Hi Valerie, well we can only hope that whoever was responsible, if somebody else was responsible - confesses before they die.

[@bronwentillman8385]

Good to hear your voice again, dear Oddie! I have missed your voice and your videos! Thank you for all the work you and your team puts into these stories!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

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[@icescrew1]

Wonderful work as usual Sir Od ! Many a dark and foggy night ive driven down the Gorge towards the Locks, thinking i might see the ghost car of this family careening off the cliffs into those dark waters. Years ago i lived in Arlington Oregon, (Hometown of "Doc" Severenson, bandleader on The Johnny Carson Show) I was building Grain Silos right on the banks of the Columbia River. Its a wide, very fast, powerful and dangerous river. Insanely high and sustained winds are common. Hood River is a windsurfing mecca. 60 mph winds are recorded often. There are also some of the worlds largest Sturgeon in that water. Some over 20 feet long. Personally, with the power of the current, i dont believe that car could have stayed put. Driving into the Gorge from East to West is one of my favorite drives. Always stopping at the Umatilla Reservations Tribal Fish Market to purchase the best smoked Salmon on Earth. Its truly a mysterious and beautiful place. Frequent UFOs and Cryptid creatures are often seen there. The Gorge leads to Portland of course, one of the former most beautiful Cities ive ever seen. Sadly, that is no longer true. Thank you for sending me on a trip down memory lane !

[@ObsoleteOddity]

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[@icescrew1]

@@ObsoleteOddity an absolute pleasure to travel engage in the Oddity Universe 👍

[@donnakawana]

So happy to hear your voice. Oddy your a beautiful voice to wake up to.... I agree with you regarding this case. The facts you spoke on were ... Yeah on point!! ✌🏼💗😊❣️

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much!

[@tigerkub9]

The cases you cover are fascinating. Thank you Oddie for yet another great video.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you like them!

[@laurametheny1008]

Thanks Oddie. I remember this one. Very sad. After losing so many of my family members I can't imagine just acting like they were never there. Except for money time. It's becoming par for the course that there will be some kind of screwup or omission by the ones in charge. Pretty scary all by itself. And infuriating. Hope you and Odette are well. Please stay safe.🙏💔🕊️

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks Laura, glad you enjoyed it - hope you stay safe as well.

[@diannefaith7866]

Another chilling & fascinating story, Oddie’s style!!! Thanks dear!!! 💕🙋🏼‍♀️👏🏼👏🏼 Please keep them coming!!!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Much appreciated my friend, thank you very much!

[@d.l.d.l.8140]

The evidence may be circumstantial, but there’s a mountain of it. Top shelf. Thank you Oddie.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I agree, very glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

[@chriswitmer7001]

What a strange but sad mystery. The police really fumbled the investigation but it was the 1950s. And did anyone check to see if Donald was really in NY at the time of the disappearance...hmmm. And that gun, no way that is a coincidence! I bet the car is so deep in silt that obviously it'll never be found. Such a sad ending. Thanks, Oddie!

[@chirpycrow2061]

Another peaceful and cozy evening with Oddie with a good cup of coffee and chilling in my favorite chair! Life is good with Oddie,..Niiiiiccccee!!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I appreciate that, thank you 😊🙏

[@hollymartins6913]

I've just discovered your channel and am already hooked. The quality of information, the wonderful graphics, and impeccable narration are second to none. Thank you for providing excellent entertainment!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Welcome aboard! Very glad you’re enjoying my content, and thank you so much for your great feedback!

[@hollymartins6913]

@@ObsoleteOddity my pleasure! And thank you for the hard work you do to present a truly peerless channel. I've always enjoyed the strange and shadowed and I have never seen it presented in such a compelling manner. Big fan!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

@hollymartins6913 I’m very happy to hear that Holly, that’s a lovely compliment and I really appreciate it 😊😄

[@shawnnewell4541]

I live in Washington state and the Columbia River is very deep and dangerous. It is a very fast flowing river.

[@thegoodgreekgirl2190]

That was great Mr Oddie. ⭐Thanks for another brilliant story. I really look forward to your videos. They make my day ⭐

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you! 😊 Glad you enjoyed the presentation my friend!

[@ndpatriot9725]

Thank you again for this video. These are some of the few I really look forward to.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you like them!!

[@jackiemuller3330]

Totally off topic here Oddie, but when you talked about listening to the true crime stories a movie popped into my head. I saw it awhile back called Pirate Radio and I wonder how much, if any of it was real. I just loved it. Well thanks for another great story! That part of the river must be changed and dangerous when I think of how good radar can get these days.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your interesting insights and positive feedback. much appreciated 😊

[@SnotSlicky]

I agree your listening group have this comfortable bond. Thank You.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you, much appreciated 🙏

[@mao2233]

Oddie, it is very clear to me you are making these videos with a very personal feel. It does feel like I am in the same room with you as you weave your spell. Wonderful video as always. Please keep up the great work. You are a very positive presence.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

That's very kind of you, thank you for that.

[@agingerbeard]

I turned 38 today, had a lovely day with family and very good food, but I must say this video was a highlight for sure! I see each as a gift from you to us all, today in particular lol Thank you for the many hours of entertainment indeed, I truly look forward to each one 💙 hope your weekend has been wonderful

[@kimhoffman8595]

Happy birthday 🎈

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Happy belated birthday greetings Andrew! I hope you had a wonderful day my friend.

[@agingerbeard]

@@ObsoleteOddity thank you 😊

[@agingerbeard]

@@kimhoffman8595 thanks!

[@melbspapercreations6204]

This story has always gotten to me. Ive lived in portland for ovee 40 years. Id love for this to be solved. Thank you

[@justcurious1146]

There's a youtube channel 'Adventures with Purpose' that tried to find the car using current equipment but unfortunately they could not find it. Such a sad story this isl.

[@louloucross]

Amazing story oddie,I’ve never heard about this before so thanks for bringing it to us xx

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@renee1961]

Hello, Oddie Thank You! How is everything going with you? Well, hopefully!

[@lisanealy1703]

Hi Oddie!!!! Love to hear your analysis of the cases. It would seem to me that the son got away with murder.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I appreciate that, thank you.

[@Baffled-f9d]

My son was in the U.S. Navy. If he was in the Navy, they know exactly where they are and whether they're on leave or have a pass. So the dots would be connected. It's all on record even that long ago, if he had the opportunity to do that crime.

[@UnholyTriforceDelenn]

Another fantastic video, Oddie! My thinking here is that I don't think Donald Martin is necessarily involved, partly because given that he was stationed with the Navy in New York at the time, I don't think he could have necessarily skipped town long enough to go all the way to the west coast, kill his family at a time when they were on a road trip, and then dump the car with the bodies in the river, lake or wherever it was exactly that investigators believed the car to have gone over a cliff, not without having his absence be noticed, which would have led him to be declared AWOL. Also, with the gun, it does come of as suspicious that it showed up at the location of the abandoned Chevrolet, but I don't know that this ties Donald Martin to the family's disappearance, as the whereabouts of the stolen items does not seem to have been reported. We know that he was fired for having stolen for his work, but beyond that, I don't think there's much clarity there. It's possible that his parents confiscated the stolen items, but if so, it leads to the question of why none of it (or specifically the gun) was ultimately returned. I also don't think it's likely that Donald Martin would have had the gun with him at his post, because from what I understand, I don't think military personnel are allowed weapons not issued to them by the service, particularly if the weapon in question has been reported as stolen, with the serial number still clearly on it. The lack of follow-through in the investigation is also incredibly annoying. Why did the police never follow up on the blood traces on the gun? Why were the lake and river not thoroughly dredged? So many unanswered questions.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you for your insights and great feedback my friend!

[@herbertorendorff6323]

What can I say oddie from day one you got me hooked on this channel

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you! 😊 Glad you enjoyed the presentation my friend!

[@kristinewatson3702]

I grew up in the Columbia River Gorge 6 miles from Cascade Locks. It's not unheard of for a car to go into the river in our area but only in certain spots because on both sides of the river there are RR tracks between the river and the road. The river is very deep at Cascade Locks and it's right before the Bonneville Dam. This would be a VERY difficult area to search for a vehicle. The Columbia is a HUGE river, its deep and a can be a dangerous area to search. What makes no sense to me is how the body found near Camas could have gotten past the Dam and another 35 ish miles downriver. I mean it would have to go through the spillway and I can't imagine there would be much of a body to recover. This really is kind of a mystery.

[@cathychilders5109]

Your awesome Oddie, thank you for all you do.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you kindly!

[@macybradach9919]

This is a very interesting story to me. I live in the same neighborhood and went to the same high school. I’m a sixth generation Oregonian, and after watching this video, I have a few phone calls to make to some family members. I have no idea how I’ve never heard of this story.

[@hammersandnails1458]

As to the gun, it could be that when the son went in the Navy he left it at home. In fact he may have had to. If so, the father could have taken it on the trip for protection and lost it in a struggle, possibly with the two car thieves.

[@guanocurry]

This was my thought as well. It’s likely they would want to have protection if heading into forested areas there. Plenty of large critters in the area who could be pretty hungry in the winter.

[@teijaflink2226]

Or maybe the dad was in a problem with someone (like those 2 men) like had a debt or something. And he pretended to go on a short trip with his family to not make anyone suspicious and took the gun as protection but then those men still managed to murder the family. Okay this is just my imagination, I still think it was maybe an accident as according to a podcast the dad didn't like to drive where those cliffs are when it becomes dark, so maybe he became nervous and drove down the cliff and specially after watching Adventures with purpose it seems to be a very common accident.

[@rachaelleann9847]

I read a comment on another channels video and the person recommended this and another channel. Just have to say thanks to whoever recommended this channel cause i absolutely love it

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much for reaching out with your positive feedback.

[@Contessa6363]

Love your channel Oddie it was one of the first channels I subscribed to on KZbin!👍👍❤️

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@Bebecat477]

Thank you so much for the story, greatly enjoyed it.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for listening!

[@binibinimariajuana7308]

Thank you Oddie for sharing another mystery story.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

My pleasure!

[@jeanettegonzales9216]

Thank you, Oddy. Your voice is always soothing to me

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I appreciate that Jeanette, thank you 😊🙏

[@sandeefurey9404]

I always get so excited when you post a new story! I know this is an older one, but I truly enjoy your presentations. Thank you for sharing!!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much!

[@mariaperez-ie6xh]

I am from Puerto Rico, and in my hometown, in early 70's or late 60's a vendor of a liqueur brand disappeared with lots of cash. He was last seen collecting his boss money at a rural store. About 30 years later, he, his car and the money were found at the bottom of a lake. In my hometown.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for sharing that, very interesting.

[@kristinek]

Hi Oddie, another great story! 👍 Thank you so much. 🥰❤🙏

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks. much appreciated 😊

[@primalcatnip313]

I hope they find them and let them rest in peace, I also watch adventures with purpose and I know they won't give up. Thank you for letting us listen to your nice voice, it makes me really relaxed 😌 love n light to you sir Oddie!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you for your kind feedback, much appreciated.

[@irenemiller9958]

Good evening from Oregon, Oddie! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE your channel; it's one of the BEST!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

😊 Much appreciated, thank you kindly!

[@andreagennaro6181]

This was a very interesting story I agree with you if they knew the car was there why didn’t they bring it up if feels like everything that was important in the case they just swept it under the rug seems to me the the son had something to do with it thanks for another great upload always injoy watching take care

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Much appreciated, thank you kindly!

[@victrola2007]

Abandoned ashes of the sisters are heartbreaking. If the parents were unreasonable, why make sisters 'pay' and be punished?

[@Risifyable]

Girl from Portland here. The Gorge is huge in some places and dangerous. I’m not sure the 50’s and 60’s they would have had access to the equipment needed. It is so beautiful there, but pretty dangerous. The river is huge and the roads wind back and forth.

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

Adventures with purpose could find it. Another fascinating video Oddie!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ameliastratton8051]

They tried and failed. The problem is the age of the case and the fast moving river. The remains of the car could be anywhere if it is still intact.

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

@@ameliastratton8051 ahh ok thx

[@stillme4084]

Great work as always. Perhaps those guys that dive & find cars n things on KZbin can help? Be well and thanks again.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊

[@ameliastratton8051]

They tried and failed.

[@rachaelleann9847]

Just found your channel and I love it. Love the older stories . But the ending where u just chatted with us and talked about stuff. Idk I just really enjoyed that part of it.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Happy you’re enjoying my content, welcome!

[@basiljaff2403]

What an awesome presentation !. You are extremely fabulous. Thank you very much indeed . Superbravo!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊

[@Golo1949]

Very interesting, just as a side note the car advertised at 9:30 a Renault Dauphine with road hugging stability, was the car that my brother managed to roll several times over when a man reversed out of his drive into my brother. It ended up over 550 ft down the road. I passed it going home but it was in such a state I never recognised it, it looked like it had been in a crusher. Fortunately somehow my brother got out and was sat on a wall when the police and fire brigade arrived. He miraculously had no physical injuries but never quit got over the accident as he suffered from a mental breakdown. Thought it may interest you.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I'm so sorry to hear that

[@trailerhood_truecrime]

Good morning Mr Oddie! Thank you so much for the upload! I was just fixing to get back to what I've been doing for a few days now clearing out some very tall overgrowth. Ive got a double-sided machete I've been itching to try out LOL was looking for something good to listen to in my headphones as I chop away these things 😉 Thanks again Oddie for the upload! We all appreciate you and your work!!! 🙏🙏🙏💛💛💛

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊

[@trailerhood_truecrime]

@@ObsoleteOddity I was going to say I try to do it every video but then I realized that I'm on my other KZbin account and nobody knows who I am on this one 😆😆😆 I'm all stealth- like, incognito... but slick as Velcro 😆😉 Anyway, I hope you're having a great weekend and I hope you have a great Sunday Mr Oddie! -Sarah Lee

[@bobbyrutherford9359]

Oddie your story telling is very addictive thanks for your hard work

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I appreciate that Bobby, thank you so much for the lovely compliment!

[@tracyb6904]

Nice hearing such a beautiful and mesmerizing voice first thing. Have missed your page and I am terribly sorry for lagging behind. Love your stories and observations.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I really appreciate your positive feedback - thank you very much :)

[@kikaymilanes6291]

Thank you Oddie for another fascinating story. Take care

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Much appreciated, thank you kindly!

[@lanacampbell-moore6686]

Happy Sunday Y'all🌞🖐️& Thanks Oddie!!!🌹❤️😊

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much ! 😊

[@carolf2381]

I Love you videos!! I loved listening to I love a mystery on the radio. You need your own program on TV.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I really appreciate that, thank you.

[@passionforlust]

I agree with your comments at the end,the evidence seems to point in one direction, may their souls rest in piece!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your feedback Dan, I hope Bill is feeling better - have a great start to the week

[@vanessapisces13]

I love listening to those old radio plays. Here on Saturday night, an AM radio station plays, “When Radio Was..” Peter Lorre stars in some stories. CBS suspense mystery theatre w/ EG Marshall & Inner Sanctum, Johnny Dollar …. Thanks for all your hard work. Still my favorite after all these years!!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks for your kind words, that's so nice of you.

[@scottfulps2065]

I grew up in that area. The Cascade Locks are very deep, swift and dangerous. Not a place you want to be in the water. Another excellent video!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you 🙏

[@rosegarza3613]

Sad story yet, as always I find these clips so entertaining coming from your friendly welcoming voice.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I really appreciate that, thank you.

[@user-ds8dc9sq9f]

It was great. Everything: photos, video and the plot.Thank you.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I’m very glad you enjoyed it, thank you so much for your great feedback!

[@billiejomcmillan7632]

Interesting story. Thanks for covering it.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thanks. much appreciated 😊

[@tomcaldwell5750]

Thank you. Oddie. Always enjoy your videos

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you like them! Thanks, much appreciated 😊

[@rumblebee4264]

I absolutely love all your stories . I look forward to them all the time. You have a soothing way about how you tell it no matter how bad the story actually is. As for the son of this story. It’s definitely Weird. If he was gay he why would he move to Hawaii and have a family anyway? I mean without his family or anyone judging him he could have continued that lifestyle. I guess it was the era . It’s sad because people still do the same thing today. I think he did it . Every one who has heard this story knows he did it. I’m sorry I call it as I see or hear it in this case. Thank you for releasing more from your other channel. I listened to two more last night. Thank you for all the work you do for all the oddie listeners. You are the best❤❤

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much, I appreciate your positive feedback! 😊🙏

[@jadedarkrose]

I live near the Columbia River Gorge. The river is very deep and wide. It's massive. It would be an absolute huge undertaking to search it. Also another awesome close to home vintage "crime" video. I've also been to just about of all those locations/towns. Cascade Locks is a favorite stop along our trip routes. Such a quaint town to stop and have lunch in. The Ale house has great burgers. I suspect you are right that there was foul play. Perhaps those men decided to rob them and someone got killed then they figured in for a penny in for a pound and killed everyone. I listened to this one this morning while sipping my hot coffee and making hot pepper ristras from the garden we had to empty out due to the frost coming. It made the work go faster. Again keep doing these amazing videos. I love listening to your narrations. You should look up vintage crime in Tri Cities Washington where I'm from and see if there is anything interesting here. Have a lovely day!

[@carolgibson-wilson4354]

Ohhh can't wait! I love listening to you telling a story after investigating it.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊

[@victoriahall6795]

Thanks Oddy! Love all of your videos!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I really appreciate your positive feedback - thank you very much :)

[@francesreyes5722]

Another great story, thank you much!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you enjoyed it Frances!

[@francesglenn2117]

It is mind boggling life has its mysteries thank you sir oddie Do take care ♾️🎭🌎☮️💜

[@ObsoleteOddity]

very much appreciated 😊

[@beemachin8092]

I always play your videos at bedtime when I all relaxed looking forward to this one tonight thanks For making my Sunday night complete

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@janespencer7864]

Another interesting story! Another case where the police couldn't be bothered to fully investigate. What a tragedy. I hope their remains are found and they can find some peace. If Donald was responsible, I hope he knows no peace in death. There's no excuse for these murders. Living well and happily would have been the best revenge.

[@jankoza673]

Thank you Oddie! Very interesting case. Quite a treat.

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@menfreya1591]

Such a strange case. Pure mystery…very sad.

[@raeannuria5691]

Great vid! Thank You for sharing this with us!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

My pleasure!

[@margaretskarra6388]

This story always fascinated me since I lived in Portland at this time. It was such huge news even news for months

[@nancyM1313]

Wonderful stuff Oddie❤ Happy Sunday!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Thank you! You too!

[@bubzilla6137]

Another fascinating case, Oddie! By the way, I came across one of your other fans on another channel called "Urmaker" recently. I thought that was cool. Maybe you don't care, but I'm always intrigued by the tiniest things... Haha! 🙂🙂🙂

[@Misfit4life73]

It's sad that the police had no family pushing them to find that car.

[@DSheartlady]

another interesting case oddie and i too love these cases too would love to hear more thank you oddie🙂

[@ObsoleteOddity]

Glad you enjoyed it Deborah, thank you so much for your feedback. 🙏

[@DSheartlady]

@@ObsoleteOddity you are welcome oddie🙂

[@Saddlinup]

Oddie, I have passed your video on to Exploring with Nug. He searches for cars in rivers. He has a KZbin channel as well that you can find by searching for it. Very interesting!

[@NoTimeForLies]

The comparison of KZbin personalities with entertainers from the Golden Age of Radio is perfect.

[@ameliastratton8051]

I read a great book on this case. Echo of Distant Water by JB Fisher. Super well researched and presented. The authors final theory makes the most sense to me. The dive team Adventures with purpose tried to locate the car but its just too old a case to have any evidence left. Awfully sad case. Those girls deserved a full life not such a horrific death.

[@Jane_Dow]

Have you ever seen the channel " Adventures with a Purpose " ?? They are a small group of people that travel around trying to locate missing loved ones, that might be under water. ( They're scuba divers & they have sonar equipment ). They have found lots of missing loved ones thats vehicle has been underwater for even some years. They too have problems with the " authorities " at times. I think the authorities have " little big man syndrome " & don't like someone else coming in & possibly getting credit for doing something they can't or will not do. They do not charge for this service & run on donations. Thank you for the stories you bring to life again !!

[@ObsoleteOddity]

I appreciate that very much, thank you for your great feedback.

[@eileendelia5974]

The Columbia is the 2nd largest river in the USA and it’s in a gorge. The water is fast and deep so recovery would be dangerous and difficult! Once the vehicle was snagged they would have known where to look, but prior to that it would have been impossible. If it was dislodged then it could easily have been dragged further down by the current. It really is an awe inspiring, beautiful and massive river!

[@alexm.7295]

The Columbia river is extremely deep and torrential especially in winter with waves and currents as it feeds directly into the ocean. I’m not surprised they don’t want to send anyone down there to search for the car

[@muffingirl2209]

I love the scuba divers arm movements very funny