The Mod That Saves Birth By Sleep: Better Battle System

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[@StickmanSham]

all of this was streamed live on twitch, you can watch the full streams over at my Stream Archive: kzbin.info/aero/PLqXvBjCOY-kuCr56T9UMTWvuiTmlY2UAC MOD LINK/DESCRIPTION: www.nexusmods.com/kingdomheartsbirthbysleepfinalmix/mods/31 Speeds up combat with animation cancelling, faster flowing commands and combos, form change s, and bonuses for Critical Mode. - Animation Cancelling: Guard and Dodge can instantly cancel attacks and commands. - Combat Flow: Attacks and Commands flow into each other much more smoothly. - Improved invincibility of all alternate dodge and dodge follow-up abilities. - Added invincibility during Form Change animation and the startup of most slow commands (Zantetsuken, Geo Impact, Windcutter, etc.). This allows you to use well-timed commands to through boss attacks and punish them. - Improved camera view - Critical Mode Bonuses: The following bonuses are granted when playing on Critical mode Keyblade Attacks Hit Enemies Twice Critical Chance is increased, but Defense is lowered +50% Damage With Commands +100% CP and Munny Gain Recover from Status Effects faster Finish Boost Ability (x2) Reload Boost Ability Second Chance Ability Tip: In order to dodge out of a guard, the game makes you do an attack first. If you quickly tap X and then square, you will cancel your guard into an attack, and then quickly cancel that attack into a dodge.

[@finalfantasy50]

why didnt they delete the formchange animation? it would be way smoother to play if you didnt get interrupted every 10 seconds

[@pujabhardwaj8568]

Why do you not recommend to combine the birth by sleep ultimate mix mod and birth by sleep better battle system mod?

[@StickmanSham]

@@pujabhardwaj8568 ive got no idea what kind of unintended side effects might occur

[@krullachief669]

You had me at having actual s

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@StickmanShamdo you know if this mod works on a physical PSP?

[@ruccsacc]

Mixing commands into your combos ironically makes it feel kinda like re:coded's approach to commands

[@alcole-holic8779]

Credit where it’s due, Re:coded did justice it’s physical commands. Some like Quick Blitz were already usable in BBS but the addition of fast attacks like the Dives and Chain Rave adding to Sora’s combos if done right. I have pulled a Chain Rave out mid-combo enough times for me to consider it the best physical command in the game

[@gabrielcastejon7914]

Re:Coded has such a fun combat system. If only 358/2 Days had the same system, it'd be one of my favorites.

[@alcole-holic8779]

@@gabrielcastejon7914 358 with a fluid and faster paced combat system would make it rival 3 for spot of “my favorite KH game”

[@keeganlafferty1395]

agreed, Re:Coded was the best in terms of physical commands, or even physical attacks in general, among the Command Deck games as it had actual unique combo attacks and the ability to chain in physical commands instead of just repeating the same 3 slashes the more (air) combo pluses you add and snapping you to the ground for certain commands

[@lpfan4491]

@@keeganlafferty1395 "Re:Com" wrong game, lol.

[@RushStudios101]

Seeing commands like Meteor and Geo Impact actually functioning like their high-tier status intends is... liberating

[@thebigchungus4515]

While it is interesting to see how much smoother the battle system flies by with this mod, it is still pretty disappointing that not a lot of commands have synergy with one another, which would promote more interesting and diverse playstyles. This is something I appreciate about ReCoded with how many commands and mechanics tend to synergize with one another, which seems to be a h.a.n.d staple considering how this also applies towards NEO TWEWY.

[@BusterBeachside]

Ah, I see you are also a man of culture

[@livenishikireaction]

all re:coded cody's are men of culture

[@BusterBeachside]

@@livenishikireaction Fair, but I'm talking about his mention of TWEWY, heheh

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

Wait, they made neo twewy? Awesome

[@deatheater6222]

@@thatitalianlameguy2235 it came out two years ago

[@Simeo905]

"im ventus i can do whatever the fuck i want" - sham 2023

[@EggyEggtoast]

Lore accurate at this point

[@lowhp_comic]

@@EggyEggtoast except KH3 where everyone who isn't Sora is suddenly weak and incapable of finishing fights without Swolra there to save them 🤣

[@Shounnify]

The Crazy thing is that bosses I-frames now kinda make sense with how much you can do with this mod

[@StickmanSham]

ignore the 2 minutes of blank screen at the end of the video, I chose the wrong render setting

[@StickmanSham]

this was all just a ploy to get y'all to watch the outro screen i worked so hard on. This was always the plan

[@damienkun8786]

​@@StickmanSham now sleep

[@reaper7970]

When you make most useless commands actually useful:

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

In terms of player buffs, we only really need super armour/invincibility on high end skills, improving normal attack damage and speed are welcome. where enemies need to be less counter playish with their movesets, vanitas, MF, eraqus armour are big offenders

[@naysayerck5971]

said useless commands can literally one shot some of the toughest enemies, the delay was added FOR THAT REASON

[@anthonysaylor8120]

2:48 I think being able to be on the same rules as the Bosses not only works to make the game feel fair, but it enhances moments where they play like YOU and pull out Cure. Especially considering the major bosses that literally using the same kinds of weapons as you, it bridges the ludo-narrative dissonance. All of which is exemplified with the Lingering Will V Terranort fight - in all but cape, you've become the Superboss of KH2FM, and now you REALLY get to feel like it.

[@swapertxking]

this fucking feels and looks like its how real keyblade masters or experts would fight. smooth, seemless, and full of weaved spells and special attacks.

[@K82849]

Yeah, they tried to market the commands as a way of showing the full potential of keyblade wielders but it was dead on arrival

[@e69alpha]

I think kh3 did it best

[@karmiccrotal3480]

​@@e69alphaI'd say Re:coded is up there

[@KaosDeathLord]

Actually according to Yen Sid that is wrong, they'd make slower more methodical decisions vs like Sora and Riku swinging their shit around willy nilly.

[@Anotherone-rl3ok]

​@@KaosDeathLord Well Yensid is an horrible máster Who doesn't do anything in any game, he alqays IS sitting Talk what to do but no more, in Kh3 only separate the heartless of the main characters but never fight against them or any member of the organizations to help the guardians of light, something that Roxas Terra and Aqua do, and don't speak of DDD It was he's fault that Sora and Riku was in danger, he says that Sora pass the exam but don't give him the rank of máster because he says that Sora lose his powers. So his words has the same valeu as a mountain of trash

[@shadowldrago]

I love that while Terra's combos are visibly slower, each hit feels heavier. Which makes sense, given he's ostensibly the Fighter of the BBS Trio.

[@Christian-gr3gu]

This is how in lore they actually fight

[@rustycookiepekka6875]

If so then whoever animates the next games cutscene fights needs to take notes because for we've yet to see any lore accurate fights(Closest were Recoded and KH2 as far as im aware).

[@97dusk]

I had loads of fun with Birth by Sleep, but I imagine that if the game played like this, I'd have had even more fun with it! Watching the chat, though, makes me realize that I'm very much in the minority. I never realized that games like Birth by Sleep or Dream Drop Distance were so hated, and it's still kind of a surprise to me to some extent. I loved them both to pieces, and still do.

[@joshnicholsYT]

Same, I kinda disliked the command deck system but grew to love it. I can only guess that kh2 raised the bar so much for combat the handheld titles had to live up to it.

[@Vas0sky]

​@@joshnicholsYT One handheld did live up to the expectations of kh2, kh:recoded had an amazing cohesive combat system with the very same limited command deck setup that bbs and ddd use.

[@joshnicholsYT]

@@Vas0sky I have to say I can't give an opinion on re:coded, with the little to no story it contributed and also apparently it was conceptualized by a drunk Nomura I decided to never give it a try

[@Much_Ado]

​@@joshnicholsYT It gets bogged down by large swaths of gameplay gimmick worlds that completely change the way the game plays away from the actually fun command system, but in those worlds where you do get to play with it, it is _exceptionally_ fun

[@Daroga1]

This is me with Re:CoM. I love it so much but it's pretty hated and I'm not sure exactly why. I love innovation into the systems.

[@throwdown1776]

Now if only we have a multiplayer mod for mirage arena.

[@masterseal0418]

Why is the thumbnail so cool tho? Anyways, I'm happy modders were able to improve BBS's battle system like they did with the secondary option to remove the Drop Meter in DDD. Terra is a lot more flexible and less irritating to play then master like he was before this mod; the frustrating boss fight against Terranort(Terra's Scenario) became very enjoyable, while Ventus and Aqua gained similar combo execution akin to Sora in KH3 and her iteration in the same game. I'd kill to see the scrapped Jungle Book world be fully created custom-wise by fans(and regaining it's OG assets), like how we got Quadratum and Insomnia from FFXV in KH3 btw!

[@alcole-holic8779]

Insomnia? Do you mean Yozora’s boss arena? If I recall correctly that’s actually based on the real location of Shibuya

[@masterseal0418]

@@alcole-holic8779 It was Noct's home city from Final Fantasy XV as mentioned in the comment above.

[@alcole-holic8779]

@@masterseal0418 I know that, I’m just wondering where it shows up in KH3. The only thing I can believe *might* be Insomnia is the place Yozora wakes up in while in the car

[@underachieve2258]

I never really understood why the game wasn't like this, especially for Aqua who was supposed to be a Keyblade Master. Don't get me wrong, I loved playing as her but if she's supposed to be the best of the best as they say then how come she doesn't operate like a boss character? I feel like combining the commands AND the combos and not pausing after every single action is something they should already be doing to show why they're masters to begin with. They should be on-par with the bosses in abilities, not just in levels. I think that would make the game so much more fun.

[@astralflan]

2:10 Not part of the mod but blocking meteors with Bladecharge looks really cool

[@6aubreyts6]

exactly my thought that part looked sick asf

[@cantbehelped]

Bro I didnt know exactly how much I needed this until I saw it in action. Time to get a real PC rig

[@calandula2007]

like you needed a high performance PC for running this 😂

[@megamanx1291]

This comment is funny

[@TheAzulmagia]

Wow, the gameplay looks so snappy now. Not quite as easy to weave between skills as Re:Coded, but still a lot more responsive.

[@Blackpapalink]

Holy shit, if the bosses were designed more like Vanitas with this mod, it could be incredible.

[@Ethonra]

Terra has always been my favorite of the BBS Trio, and I must say: Speedster Terra is terrifying. That has to be the most panic-inducing thing any foe fighting Terra has ever seen. 18:54-19:18.

[@upcycledjr6528]

Just imagine if this was base bbs and not a mod

[@almightyrasen]

21:15 that was actually a big brain play by MF 💀

[@Drawerofstuff00]

Man, this almost feels like a whole new game!!!

[@jamierbb]

The darkness at the end is really immersive

[@NinetyNineNo]

At 0:34 it's already looking awesome, brutal blast lift -> guard cancel -> aerial attack is dope

[@AshtranDubs]

The fact that you can break out of combos with block/barrier just like everything does in this game is cool

[@MabinogiKHVidegamer]

I've been waiting for a mod like this to come out, and it just might be the best KH mod I've played. I'm having a blast going through BBS again, and I never thought that would happen again. If the same mod could be made for DDD then we'll be in the best timeline.

[@SaltedMallows]

1:04 That's kinda badass it's like Nero's Exceed slash from DMCV a little bit

[@TheGreatWoL103]

I just took the first look and instantly thought "Did....did Terra just use a normal? And he comboed with it on a BOSS?" Best mod 11/10

[@yuribaka4809]

WARNING: the mod is curently defunct because of the egs and steam update. You can request un update to the creator of the mod.

[@Chibi_Rikka]

You could call it the Better Birth by Sleep Experience, I suppose?

[@K82849]

It’s insane these options weren’t even remotely considered by devs years ago.

[@darkassasin111]

YEEEEE BOI This game deserved a proper combat overhaul. BBS blew my little mind as a kid. KH on the PSP? But, adult me has higher standards, and base BBS feels either unfair if you're weak compared to the enemies, or boring if you're too strong/spam overpowered commands. This is definitely going on the to-play list.

[@rosiemymelody]

mod just turns bbs into recoded (the better command style game)

[@MiDuWay]

I haven't played BBS in several years, but as a genuine lover of its combat, this mod looks like how I remember the game feeling.

[@keneor4468]

Now try to mod days into a fun experience lmao (just add decent hitstun on a bunch of boss encounters and that would already be way better)

[@blackliquidsorrow8249]

Would also help if enemies didn't have stupidly high HP

[@JI0MB]

@@blackliquidsorrow8249 Just slap a 2x damage multiplier on the player and there you go lmao

[@hypernovagamingstation]

I actually like BSS and it's combat and even I can agree that this is superior in every way.

[@swaggin1716]

KZbin just randomly set my shit to 2x speed without me knowing, so I just watched this sped up for like 30 seconds thinking that was the mod.

[@rustycookiepekka6875]

One thing that disturbs me was the beginning where you got hurt even though you were blocking in the proper direction...

[@KieranHarris44]

I'd like to make a game inspired by BBS' battle system and this certainly gives me lots of ideas, nice! Though being a one-man team it'd probably have to be 2D like GBA Chain of Memories but still, I'd love to try that someday!

[@Xendra]

ive always thought that a game with BBS style commands and melding would be great if you could slot the commands into your regular combos like in God Hand

[@SaltedMallows]

Hell Yeah time for Terra to get his Fhukin revenge on Mysterious bro

[@oni-linkle4880]

This mod has everyone coming to grips with how bullshit the enemies in bbs are

[@lowhp_comic]

Vanitas failing to maintain being an edgelord calling you names as you are kerbstomping every single counter he throws

[@duckeggcarbonara]

The people are waking up... They're realizing Re:Coded was right along.

[@kyrusdarkblade]

Looking at the notes for the Better Battle System mod... Holy shit there's so much wrong with BBS on a fundamental level

[@Carnyzzle]

the mod that makes you FEEL like you're lingering will

[@CoBud91]

Holy fuck that Tnort fight. I'm at Tnort on my own playthrough with this mod and had no fucking clue just how swift you can be with it, I'm so used to playing it since launch lmfao

[@Nevict]

There should be a skill called "form disable" that prevents you from triggering form changes.

[@kyl0ooart]

23:19 how did you do that wtf?

[@StickmanSham]

...oops lmao, accidentally rendered the entire timeline instead of only the actual video

[@jexusdomel5194]

Only by seeing your thumbnail that i understood better battle system is suposed to have the same initials as birth by sleep

[@jacxbtv]

2:18 looks really cool

[@saikatsune2085]

10:23 >Stops and rewinds time upon being hit ONCE at the start of the fight. >Didn’t let Terra finish his animation before rewinding, takes the damage anyway. This. This should not be as funny as it is.

[@kaarpiv375]

God, these playthroughs actually made me wanna pick BBS back up. I oughta start tryna run KH mods, I tried to do Critical Mix a while back, but the installer won't work with roms, so I'll hafta buy the KH bundles at some point.

[@theindigothunder3921]

Oh my God the boss battles look actually mostly playable now

[@yungmuney5903]

11:53 lmao that entire sequence was pure unga bunga

[@aenslandgaymer9926]

Bayonetta players know how to use dodge offset, this should be fun~

[@dongodongo12]

Oh i thought this was a video essay talking baout bbs' combat system and its faults and how the mod fixes it and such, but no

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Didn't think id be considering playing this game again any time soon

[@nopunitended8825]

Ventus was already the fastest but holly shit he is op in this mod

[@somnus9976]

Faith and salvation are so cool with wingblade , ventus should’ve stayed like this

[@flarigrar7114]

I need the mod where BBS doesn't crash every two seconds

[@Erick.Salvador]

at this point I`m just waiting for some crazy bastard to port the entire story and content of BBS to KH2`s engine

[@repeekyraidcero]

The game that plunged kh into everlasting darkness

[@winterflan]

I never thought anybody would be able to make MF actually look *fun* to fight. I gotta try this mod, I can't stand BBS's gameplay normally.

[@Dualblades47]

Looks awesome, thanks for alerting me to the existence of this.

[@matthewtwitter5172]

I feel like this mod makes it feel more like Re:coded does, i mean some decks easily flow in with each other

[@raymanfreak7739]

One fight into the video, and all it looks like is they made the game easier... I'm not sure how to feel about it.

[@SeeqSimp]

Finally, BBS re:coded.

[@DrhpJerhtun]

ok here me out fighting game but kingdom hearts and there are so many special systems they could use ripped directly from kh rv values to give noobs a chance form changes that unlock/replace abilities ok maybe there arnt that many i can think of but its still a good idea!

[@spidiccus8561]

dis shit bussin

[@KAIsibs]

0:58 I’m sorry?!

[@Raylightsen]

Please nerf that fuking young xehanort dual blade boss. Is too broken.

[@vaughnrudy8084]

Does this give atttacks more hitstun?

[@z-v-x8324]

Makes the every keyblade attack hit twice, which usually make most bosses stagger MUCH easier than before

[@vaughnrudy8084]

@@z-v-x8324 ooooooooooooogh

[@kulekid6917]

man i wish it was easier to pirate the pc ports this mod looks awesome

[@KolomerEntertainment]

Fixed the entire game

[@reallyhimongod]

Lol I cheesed this boss fight with shot lock, ethers and ignite haha

[@canalxpcial5108]

Let me guess... On from PC version? If is, that is kind a shame, since there is no much mods to the OG... Hope someday someone do that...

[@canonsprite]

Is this available for psp version?

[@nickel7o740]

That's what I'm wondering. I wanna do multiplayer with this mod so bad.

[@whatthehellisthis7729]

what is the music at 21:46 ?

[@jstar3382]

so what is the difference from the main game here? Haven't played enough bbs to tell Edit: oh there's no wind up on the skills god I wish that was real

[@AnonEcho98]

I'm legit failing to see a difference, am I dumb?

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

Yes you are.

[@ariinuikamui4202]

Yo my run vs the Unknown with Aqua was the most easy with Seeker mine / Mine square / Thunder Surge and heal, the mine is so powerfull with her And with Ventus just Thunder Surge / heal and full roll 😂 For Terra i didn't do it because he's so slow, his "dash" isn't even a dodge😢

[@Sonic-oh2ly]

The gameplay flows like a kinda worse kh recoded

[@Ephraim225]

Oh look you're invincible during every move now ok

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

Genuine braindead comment.

[@The_Ice_Type_Specialist]

Fun fact half way through Aqua’s story I said duck this shit I’m out

[@KudaGeatsune3821]

Don't you just love it when fans understand a product more than it's creator does?

[@groudon2006]

Unfortunately if its a mod, its not exactly saving anything because not everyone has access to it, it nothing more than a pipe dream to put it bluntly

[@myupicks]

kino

[@ThePageofTime]

Notification gang.

[@tylercafe1260]

Just hate watching now

[@_Ikelos]

so it just adds a whole hour of iFrames to every attack? I mean, you could've just played it on the easiest difficulty then

[@TheAnimatedGamer]

You can combo cancel out commands into other commands or dodges which makes the game way more responsive

[@_Ikelos]

@@TheAnimatedGamer why would you need to do that when almost every commands seems to make you invincible for the duration of it? Also, can't you already do that by switching keyblades? idk, having bosses swing an entire combo at you and not hitting you feels wrong to me

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

​@@_Ikelosway to miss the whole point of the mod.

[@SonicandRatchetCo]

I am Anti-Mod! Like I'm 100% against using mods! Sorry!

[@SonicandRatchetCo]

Well... Except mods that are100% supported by the official companies. Example: DOOM mods on PS4, Switch and Xbox One ports.

[@bayardkyyako7427]

Saves is a strong word considering this is the second best in the eyes of the wrong part of the fandom

[@poopdublio289]

I feel like I'm missing something. It still looks pretty stiff and unfun lol

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

That's literally just BBS in general.

[@nekkro6879]

Just like what he said in the beginning. If you weren't paused after every action you do, this game would've been one of the fucking bees knees, and could've been a good competitor against KH2.

[@mitsunitaiko1742]

Re:coded was that competitor but too many people slept on it, which is a damn shame because the gameplay was amazing

[@wherearemypowers]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 True but the constant gimmicks and the failure to push the KH lore forward (which is not a bad thing btw) made a lot of people completely ignore the game. IMO it's easily the best handheld title in the Kingdom Hearts series.

[@KaedeLanyo]

@@mitsunitaiko1742 Great core gameplay, annoying gimmicks, worthless story.

[@kuroxiii9481]

Unfortunately we must constantly push the lore. If Disney thinks they didn't need Nomura's wild ride they would just mass produce V sequels

[@oni-linkle4880]

Have you seen how many stupid I frames the enemies get??? Hard disagree, and I LOVE THIS DUMB GAME I PLAYED THROUGH IT 4 TIMES

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Even of you didn’t play this game you should be able to tell this is a mod because Terra’s balance isn’t jinxed by the game he’s in

[@knexell5894]

Now see this is what the Mysterious Figure fight should have been, a challenging encounter and not a Thunder Surging Breaking the Square button circus act.

[@naysayerck5971]

I did it without thunder surge when i was twelve, agreed it makes the fight seem more fun tho

[@gablink5190]

It would be fun to see a MF fight with this mod, but its entirelly on the air.

[@blackliquidsorrow8249]

He did one

[@gablink5190]

@@blackliquidsorrow8249 i think i fogot then, i was on the streams.

[@jeckup9943]

@@gablink5190is it not at 10:30?

[@niteriemcfarlane5285]

it is lol

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

Did you not watch the video lol

[@leon2550]

this mod actually makes mysterious figure look fun wtf

[@ijustbevibin0425]

BBS no mods has Better combat than kh1 and 2

[@leon2550]

@@ijustbevibin0425 sure little bro

[@acesamm]

@@ijustbevibin0425you do you

[@leonmystique9372]

​@@ijustbevibin0425 Aight, come back once you're done on Critical. I used to say that exact same until I finished the entire game on Critical.

[@apothisiii5549]

What a rancid take.