The Mystery of High School Musical

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Dream Jelly

Dream Jelly

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@dreamyjellies
@dreamyjellies 8 ай бұрын
So I made a little oopsie: I haven't read Romeo and Juliet since like 7th grade, and in that play they were actually both in the *same* social class. My bad. BUT I'm still sticking with the characters having different social standings in Twinkle Towne because it still fits with the rest of the theory :-) Also I have never seen West Side Story before so if it seems similar to that it is probably just because I am very good at my detective job
@kurainq
@kurainq 8 ай бұрын
I was wondering about that, thanks for clarifying!
@lisah8438
@lisah8438 8 ай бұрын
Minnie has that old money and Arnold has that new money.
@laurabowles
@laurabowles 7 ай бұрын
Hello! High school English teacher here to tell you that this is totally okay! For an R&J adaptation you just need a reason for the love to be forbidden. Different social classes - especially when one of them is part of the elite upper class - is a perfectly logical explanation.
@HandmaidenofGod
@HandmaidenofGod 7 ай бұрын
I think the timeframe may have been news years eve party. They drop the disco ball at midnight. And would meet by chance.
@laurabowles
@laurabowles 7 ай бұрын
@@HandmaidenofGod Yes - I had the same thought! It's a reason for those gold top hats, too.
@justinehershberger3090
@justinehershberger3090 8 ай бұрын
The lyrics “do the hustle” in bop to the top also proves your point that it takes place in the 70s because the hustle was one of the most popular dances of the 70s!
@arislamb35
@arislamb35 8 ай бұрын
yes! very donna summer
@CapnCrimson
@CapnCrimson 8 ай бұрын
I wanted to comment this exact thing!
@Leviachan-
@Leviachan- 8 ай бұрын
Based off visible age and that the movie assumedly takes place at release miss darbus likely grew up in the 70s!
@AJSSPACEPLACE
@AJSSPACEPLACE 8 ай бұрын
There were actually several dance moves, all called “The Hustle”
@DKdrop
@DKdrop 8 ай бұрын
@@AJSSPACEPLACE And a lot of songs were made to go with them. There are a lot of disco tracks called “The Hustle,” or something related to it. The one that survives to this day, though, is “The Hustle” by Van McCoy. That flute riff is the definition of an ear worm.
@emilynelligan7611
@emilynelligan7611 8 ай бұрын
Gotta be real, the idea of the antagonists and protagonists singing the same song in the same scene, but about different things which each reveal their key differences in motivation and character is just top tier.
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 8 ай бұрын
I know right! It works perfectly, can make us really empathize with Arnold and Minnie
@VampPhoenix99
@VampPhoenix99 8 ай бұрын
I've never seen these movies but as soon as you brought up Spanish music and Romeo and Juliet-inspiration, I immediately went "oh, it's West Side Story."
@kelseycollings3454
@kelseycollings3454 8 ай бұрын
I can't help but think that in your interpretation, bop to the top is the song the antagonists sing as they do an ocean's 8-esque heist at a party - they are pretending to be dancing, but are actually stealing the necklace. Like they "slip and slide" around the guards; "jump and hop" on top of... something... and then have to "hop til we drop" and drop down to hide from a guard, then "start again" trying to find a new method of approach, etc. Aha! Genius!
@thanatoast
@thanatoast 8 ай бұрын
No wonder Sharpay and Ryan didn't get the call. They sung a song meant for the wrong character!
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 8 ай бұрын
That would be amazing and would be a cool sequence to watch. I wish Disney would make a movie based on this
@annabarnes5221
@annabarnes5221 8 ай бұрын
​@@thanatoast or did they plan a fallback into their callback? (A very Sharpay move, I would say) Imagine being another drama student who auditioned to play one of the villains only to learn they gave it to the people who didn't get the two leading roles. Who have always had the lead roles in all the musicals. Now their encroaching on your antagonist role territory.
@thanatoast
@thanatoast 8 ай бұрын
​@annabarnes5221 That does sound incredibly Sharpay. Plus if they do get the leading roles, it's a big flex to get them while you didn’t even sing the song your character sings.
@bjiru_
@bjiru_ 8 ай бұрын
Not finished yet, but you went very crazy on the editing on this one, the scenes, the animations, so very cool
@fusetunes
@fusetunes 8 ай бұрын
agreed the animal crossing dialogue makes it 1000x better
@dreamyjellies
@dreamyjellies 8 ай бұрын
thank you sm :’)
@snowycatpurrs
@snowycatpurrs 8 ай бұрын
IKR the animation is so good
@raspberryjamz
@raspberryjamz 8 ай бұрын
the Yogos in the detective room took me out
@acausedes
@acausedes 8 ай бұрын
i buy this 100%, it's canon in my head. and i like to think even though sharpay and ryan auditioned for the main characters ms. darbus had to put her foot down and made them sing the villain song at the callbacks because WHY ARE SHARPAY AND RYAN AUDTIONING TO PLAY LOVERS
@no.1appastan
@no.1appastan 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to imagine the reason Bop to the Top's lyrics are just about dancing is because the pair are renowned Latin ballroom dancers who mingle with the upper echelon due to their talents. Coming from poor backgrounds themselves they've seen what fame can bring such as "glory", so they've begun to *expertly interweave their dancing abilities with pickpocketing* and used their stolen wealth to break into very elite social groups. During the song we see how the antagonists utilise their dancing to steal jewellery and watches off other contestants by simply brushing past them on the dancefloor and distracting the audeince and judges by mesmerising them with their choreography. And when other contestants complain and accuse the pair (bc after a few competitions you'd start to notice you're always losing valuable items) the pair use their strong physiques to bash the other contestants (on and off the dance floor)and cause injuries and/or bribe the police. Anyways love this analysis! I have so many headcanons based on your research now, what a fun project to explore! Thanku Dream Jelly :)
@expectessie
@expectessie 8 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: There's a HSM comic from the Walt Disney Company called Lasting Impressions where they did another musical that seemed to be before the events of HSM 2. It was called Twinkle Seine and took place in Paris, France around the mid to late 1800s.
@Max_The_Flower
@Max_The_Flower 8 ай бұрын
So it's a prequel to Twinkle Towne
@AmandaNievi
@AmandaNievi 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this. I really like how the diamonds and stars/astronomy all tie in with the "twinkle" in the title.
@sillapepino1940
@sillapepino1940 8 ай бұрын
the bad lip reading clip im crying
@LadyDragonbane
@LadyDragonbane 8 ай бұрын
The one true HSM
@neatoburrito3170
@neatoburrito3170 5 ай бұрын
​@@LadyDragonbanecHoRKy
@KorbinJones
@KorbinJones 8 ай бұрын
Romeo and Juliet are called “star-crossed lovers” by the chorus in the prologue, referring to astrology and misfortune (born with a tragic fate). The astronomy map seems relevant to that, plus the line “there’s not a star in heaven that we can’t reach” (sung by Arnold) in Breaking Free seems to imply that they can rearrange the stars and change their fate. If Arnold is lower class like you said, then maybe that’s why he’s interested in space-he wants to understand the things that seem to have “cursed” him with poorer circumstances. 👀 And like you said, stars are referenced by the title TWINKLE Town. Wow the LEVELS to this movie?? Truly iconic. Thanks for making me appreciate this childhood favorite even more.
@ArgenAndJael
@ArgenAndJael 8 ай бұрын
So Zac Efron's character wants to...Rewrite the Stars
@strcrt
@strcrt 8 ай бұрын
LOOOOVE that! I also thought the twinkle in the name could possibly refer to the twinkling of the diamonds in addition to the stars? Since they ARE in the Diamond District! When they ditch it, the “starry sky” shining in the background might actually just be symbolizing Twinkle Towne itself 💎💍✨ (aside from it being nighttime, lol)
@princelandrycrusher
@princelandrycrusher 8 ай бұрын
The two different lamps on the prop list are also 70s inspired too. :3 Beaded lampshades and stained glass lampshades were very in back then.
@cayanne3420
@cayanne3420 8 ай бұрын
Idk why but I always assumed that Bop to the Top was just a song Ryan and Sharpay just picked to perform for the callback, I never thought it was part of the musical.
@ikarikid
@ikarikid 8 ай бұрын
Both are possibilities. Of the four diegetic songs, this is one with no clear origin, but they’re able to do an elaborate production complete with a ladder.
@cayanne3420
@cayanne3420 8 ай бұрын
@@ikarikid True. But I wouldn't put it past Sharpay and Ryan to go all out on this number even if it wasn't part of this specific musical.
@megafan1137
@megafan1137 8 ай бұрын
Chucking this onto the pile of "Extreme deep dives into movies I've never seen but stayed invested all throughout anyway"
@katelynamato5396
@katelynamato5396 7 ай бұрын
This comment implies you have never seen hsm which is a true crime against humanity
@justanautisticnerd8969
@justanautisticnerd8969 7 ай бұрын
​@@katelynamato5396 damn, guess ill go to jail (im too picky about movies fr...)
@miscorpii2719
@miscorpii2719 8 ай бұрын
Can you believe that as a kid my brain never processed the plot of the movie had a high school musical casting and stuff ongoing in their school, but I also didn't know english at that time, I just needed the singing, drama and romance and my brain didn't care about anything else. And now as an adult you made my brain cells connect, there IS a high school musical!
@gumisora
@gumisora 8 ай бұрын
Also me, watched the movie in Spanish but English songs
@DillonExner
@DillonExner 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Mr. Schain’s name might be pronounced “Shine.” As in “bright like a DIAMOND.”
@eatatjoes6751
@eatatjoes6751 8 ай бұрын
Dammit, of course Mrs. Darbus would have that teacher-level lame character name-punnery if she wrote the thing.
@mollywalker5790
@mollywalker5790 8 ай бұрын
The stage musical version (yes there is a stage adaptation) confirms that the musical is a retelling of Romeo and Juliet. Very weird when you consider Sharpay and Ryan wanted the leads
@swiftlyaswiftie
@swiftlyaswiftie 8 ай бұрын
Arnold being in a lowerclass guy in a NYC wanting to be an astronomer adds a double meaning to 'I want to break free' where, due to the light pollution, he'd have to 'break free' from the bright-or twinkling-city to the countryside where he can finally show Minnie the stars
@camwing
@camwing 8 ай бұрын
I cannot imagine how much work went into all the custom graphics and animations, you really outdid yourself with this one. High School Musical came out when girls still had cooties, and one of my friends was obsessed with this movie, so naturally I hated it with every fiber of my 10-year-old being. Somehow you actually got me to care about this, I'm impressed. This channel is an absolute gem.
@eatatjoes6751
@eatatjoes6751 8 ай бұрын
I was an 11 year old girl at the time with peak N.L.O.G. syndrome so I totally get your message. Seeing this and the sad realization that *everyone* slowly adopted it as I got older just makes me cringe now and appreciate the movies a little more for being fun, though I’ll probably never actually sit and watch it.
@gabriellepriest5007
@gabriellepriest5007 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact, the Christmas spectacular that’s held at radio city music Hall every year has camels in its live nativity scene, and has had that since it’s inception in 1933 if all of this occurs somewhere near Christmas time, that could explain why a camel was in New York City. And where is radio city music Hall? In New York City diamond District! Maybe this man was so willing to buy the diamonds, because he had just swindled a camel from radio city Hall!
@456puff
@456puff 8 ай бұрын
Why does this not have more likes? It makes so much sense and I've decided to incorporate it into this theory, which is now my own personal canon.
@miayulfo1249
@miayulfo1249 7 ай бұрын
And the sparkly hats were in a Christmas ensemble number!
@Musenight
@Musenight 8 ай бұрын
I take your Romeo and Juliet and raise you… Taming of the Shrew. The antagonists are actually Arnold’s family. He gets caught up in their schemes because they convince him the only way he can follow his dreams is if he (the only eligible son in the family) marries Minnie, affording the family riches and Arnold class mobility. It’s a classic tale of being dared to date a girl, but falling in love with her for real. Bop to the top’s “hustle” is referencing his families attempts to impress Mr. Shane, so when the relationship is revealed, he is already endeared to the family. Minnie at some point figures out the scheme, and the family, still making their way into Mr. Shane’s inner circle after leaving an impression on him, are able to hatch a new plan to steal the necklace. Arnold must prove his love is true, and warns Minnie of the plan. They manage to capture Arnold’s scheming family and have damning evidence. They plan to run away together, believing Arnold’s familial relation to the antagonists would prevent any approval from Mr. Shane. However, this act of bravery speaks to Mr. Shane’s otherwise hidden emotional side, and he permits Arnold and Minnie to live their lives how they see fit.
@elsie8757
@elsie8757 7 ай бұрын
Cool rundown, but I feel compelled to point out that that's... not even close to what Taming of the Shrew is about
@acaciamary
@acaciamary 8 ай бұрын
All this evidence points me to thinking of a 'Strictly Ballroom' style movie. They've been at the same dance school but are learning different styles, such as the classical ballroom and the modern disco. Pressure from their teachers or pageant mums, they come together and combine their styles with the Merengue. The diamond necklace? The prize for the big competition or a stealing plot, the antagonist plants it on Minnie or Arnold to try disqualify them.
@kitfred
@kitfred 8 ай бұрын
Dream Jelly: Covering What Film Theory is to Afraid to Touch™
@meltyy9594
@meltyy9594 8 ай бұрын
All these years I thought that Twinkle Town was about two people (Minnie and Arnold) auditioning for a musical and falling in love... Like literally the plot of high school musical layered into itself potentially infinitely, each musical a reflection of the musical within itself. a musical about two people auditioning for a musical about two people auditioning for a musical. this got worse when HTMTMTS came out because it added YET ANOTHER layer, a musical about two people auditioning for a musical about two people auditioning for a musical about two people auditioning for a musical. When does it end? Are we in a musical right now? Anyway your theory is a lot better thought out so ill go ahead and adopt that into my belief system. Oh and something about a little grandpa guy.
@cryforhelp7270
@cryforhelp7270 8 ай бұрын
That was my theory while watching the video too LOL
@fusetunes
@fusetunes 8 ай бұрын
the rest of my family is about to watch wrestlemania so i needed something to watch by myself thank you dream jelly
@tyy1823
@tyy1823 8 ай бұрын
this is so real LOL
@fusetunes
@fusetunes 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@tyy1823 glad i’m not alone 🫡
@linnhuman
@linnhuman 8 ай бұрын
the fact that High School Musical is almost 20 years old... 😮
@gracefulbarbie
@gracefulbarbie 8 ай бұрын
no…no…dont say that…
@gumisora
@gumisora 8 ай бұрын
Shhhhhh
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 8 ай бұрын
Oh my😅
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reminder 👴🏼
@lextatertotsfromhell7673
@lextatertotsfromhell7673 7 ай бұрын
its literally older than me
@governmentcheese3350
@governmentcheese3350 8 ай бұрын
I feel like a small part of my brain at all times during the last 15 years has been pondering this exact question. I feel at ease. My inner child is healed.
@maveroni4154
@maveroni4154 8 ай бұрын
I had the All Access book as a kid. I've kept it for years and in top quality with (most) of the items. I recently gave it away to one of my nieces that recently got obsessed with the first movie so she could enjoy it like I did.
@hastaluegoluka
@hastaluegoluka 8 ай бұрын
the editing in this one goes so hard, thank you for all the detail and hard work :D !!!!!!
@gracefulbarbie
@gracefulbarbie 8 ай бұрын
you don’t understand, i binge watched all your videos in a week and i have been crying begging pleading to the youtube gods for a new video🙏🏼🙏🏼 i havent even watched it yet but i KNOW its gonna be a banger pls never stop posting QUEEN OF THE 2000S
@wretchedcats4909
@wretchedcats4909 8 ай бұрын
My initial impression on the guy named “incredible Mr. Schain” was that he was a magician. his name very much reminds me of the magical mister mistoffelees from cats (who’s not really a magician more than he is just actually a wizard cat) like “incredible” seems like a title a magician would give himself. I feel like maybe he wouldn’t be the diamond’s owner, but maybe a magician con artist? One of the villains perhaps.
@annabarnes5221
@annabarnes5221 8 ай бұрын
I think the antagonists in bop to the top are actually convincing Arnold and Minnie to work with them. Lyrics including 'shooting for the stars' and 'work our tails off every day' are appealing to Arnold's astronomy dreams, while the lyrics 'got to raise the bar' are appealing to Minnie's dream of passing the bar exam being a lawyer. The star crossed lovers must work with these hardened criminals for their safety, knowing one wrong move and they'll be pinned to take the fall.(This number is the act 1 closer) Luckily Minnie uses her skill of speaking like a lawyer to make sure our antagonists are the ones arrested for the attempted heist. However, Mr Shaine is not so easily fooled and pursues the couple in chase. It is at this point it is revealed that Arnold chose the date for the heist and he used his astronomy knowledge to pick the night of the extremely rare face moon (when the moon resembles a human face) which is when werecamels are on the prowl. Minnie's dad is trampled by a rampaging werecamel, but before are heroes can meet the same fate they sing breaking free, calming the creature and giving him control of his fate. This is when it's revealed to be Johnny Omni the man who they'd met in the park earlier. Johnny is thankful and provides them the funds to leave New York and start a new
@energy_sky512
@energy_sky512 8 ай бұрын
I'm impressed that you were able to come up with this much detail. However, I'm a little confused as to why you concluded that Minnie and Arnold must be from different social classes. In Romeo and Juliet, as well as in modern adaptations of the same storyline, the two protagonists are from rival families of the same social class. Having Arnold come from an equally wealthy and prominent family would be more consistent with the Romeo and Juliet inspiration, and would also help explain why he was at the party in the first place.
@gremmie8843
@gremmie8843 8 ай бұрын
Most likely it has to do with the inspiration from the titanic, as jack and rose are from different social classes
@squid244
@squid244 8 ай бұрын
The detective work was amazing and the editing was insane! All the sound effects were so good, and I loved the paper style of everything (plus the sick detective office)
@despairinq
@despairinq 8 ай бұрын
wake up babe new dream jelly upload
@no.1appastan
@no.1appastan 8 ай бұрын
the bop to the top PLOT TWIST blew my mind
@maplepainttube8158
@maplepainttube8158 8 ай бұрын
omg, friend and I have been theorizing about what the musical in the movie was about for YEARS. Thank you! One small thing, not saying the evidence of the musical doesn't imply Arnold's family is less wealthy than Minnie's, but you don't extrapolate that from romeo and juliet because the whole beginning of the play is "two families alike in dignity" because the point isn't that romeo and juliet are not being kept apart by class difference, but by a feud that is so pointless that we never even learn what the feud is over, we only see the dire consequences the family experience because they kept fanning the flames of hatred and discourse until it consumed their own children.
@marianafranco5508
@marianafranco5508 8 ай бұрын
id also say MAYBE minnie and arnold arent strangers, because they mention in two different songs they didnt realize someone like that was RIGHT BESIDES THEM, which seems to imply they at least knew about each other existence or shared some spaces at some capacity (im inclined to believe arnolds family worked for the schain's and they all were at the party because of that) but the party was the first time they actually talked and were alone together and even shared interests (maybe shes a space nerd too, the moon appears in their duet specifically) and after that they cant take their eyes of each other like what do you mean someone who understands me so well was right beside me and we CANT keep talking because my rich dad needs to introduce me to a bunch of rich spoiled weirdos he wants me to marry (which is a hunch, but very likely to happen in a play in the 70s with rich people)
@mouseggurl102
@mouseggurl102 8 ай бұрын
I always look forward to your jokes, editing and find myself doing the same face for the majority of the video as "dream jelly"😂
@lilypadlilith
@lilypadlilith 8 ай бұрын
The amount of effort and detail you put into editing these is insane! I loved every bit of this theory, it made me feel like a little grandpa guy.
@butterfly22432
@butterfly22432 8 ай бұрын
this was such a love letter from your heart and it shows so much!!, i’m so glad you took the leap into making more long form content as i remember u were worried about how that would turn out.. ur doing great!
@user-fs4vo6cc2g
@user-fs4vo6cc2g 8 ай бұрын
18 minutes in, is this just gonna be west side story lol Edit: OH MY GOD THIS IS JUST WEST SIDE STORY
@maggiebee619
@maggiebee619 8 ай бұрын
this is so so so well done! I love the editing so much, plus its so clear that its well researched and a topic that you're passionate about!
@gabm9128
@gabm9128 8 ай бұрын
I literally binged all your videos and have been waiting for another one! Love ur vids so much! Also... I had this heart-shaped pillow that had Troy on one side and Gabriella on the other...and my mom was waking me up for school, saw Gabriella's smiling face on the pillow, and thought I was already awake...I guess just laying and smiling.
@cyranocole
@cyranocole 8 ай бұрын
Saw this posted and just about screamed….the perfect thing to watch on the train ride home from work thank you DJ 💖💖💖
@biabarreto1434
@biabarreto1434 8 ай бұрын
This is such an interesting video, and possibly the most in-depth analysis on this subject to date! Huge props for your research-the idea of a musical about a jewel heist in 1970s New York City, possibly with half or even 3/4 of the prominent characters being Latinos, is quite compelling. I don't think any of this was what the screenwriters and crew behind the movie intended, so you did a great job in putting it all together so efficiently. I would totally check out this musical! Just a few pointers, though (apologies if I'm being too pedantic): what is referred to as a "disco ball" is actually formally known as a mirrorball (or glitterball, for those who live in the UK), and most importantly, the Latin musical stylings in both Bop to the Top and Can't Take My Eyes Off of You sounds closer to something like Salsa or Mambo than Merengue. Merengue is much more frantic in its sound-think the music of Elvis Crespo, or the song Kulikitaka by Toño Rosario, which was actually trending on TikTok a couple years ago during the height of the pandemic.
@WHALEBOY777
@WHALEBOY777 8 ай бұрын
The scented candle as a stand-in for an "ashtray with cigarette" in the private eye office background is a very nice touch!
@PrismaticatheOne
@PrismaticatheOne 8 ай бұрын
having never personally seen Highschool Musical or any media related to it before, I'm just going to immediately accept this as 100% canon. this was all put together so well (like an easy diamond heist) that I can't even try to dispute it. but seriously, I love watching people being excited about things I'm barely aware of. you got me invested in an obscure aspect of a movie I've never watched, and I can only say: Thank You.
@thelightstuff9478
@thelightstuff9478 8 ай бұрын
The editing in this is insane!! There are so many blink and you'll miss it gags that make me snort in a FIFTY MINUTE VIDEO! Also you were already one of my faves and then you pull out the Barbie Detective Soundtrack?! A real girl's girl 💅
@puchulera16
@puchulera16 8 ай бұрын
I was looking for someone to point out the Barbie music!!!! Amazing
@HappyBunBoi
@HappyBunBoi 8 ай бұрын
I'm directing my high school's production of High School Musical the Musical this year and in the script, they changed the name of the in-universe musical to 'Juliet and Romeo.' Also, 'Bop to the Top' is sung in the first audition by the students auditioning for ensemble roles THEN by Sharpay and Ryan at the callbacks.
@MenaceTheMary
@MenaceTheMary 7 ай бұрын
Hey, just wanted to pop on by and say I recently discovered your channel and I started to realize a lot about myself through your content. Thanks for making me feel like I'm not and wasn't completely alone when it came to random hyperfixations I developed growing up in the 2000s and 2010s lol. You keep doing what you do. Proud of you.
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 8 ай бұрын
I'd kill to watch Twinkle towne once, also it's funny how only the third movie show's a musical in high school iirc (the first one only shows the auditions and the second one takes place at the resort)
@elsie8757
@elsie8757 7 ай бұрын
And even then, the "musical" in the third movie is really more like a... showcase, or something. From what we see of it, it's just a series of vignettes loosely connected by the theme of "senior year", there's no plot or story in-between.
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 7 ай бұрын
​@@elsie8757 Jeez i forgot that, that's even weirder why can't we just get a high school musical in our high school musical movie
@neptunite5973
@neptunite5973 8 ай бұрын
your editing is so fun. you really use the pngs like youre playing with dolls c:
@prettypic444
@prettypic444 7 ай бұрын
I like to think the in universe musical was an unlicensed version of an extremely popular Broadway show that was rewritten JUST ENOUGH so the school could avoid getting sued
@bdluejay
@bdluejay 8 ай бұрын
this video was a delight. i grew up on hsm and never really thought about the musical. now i will never stop thinking about it
@betsyphillips131
@betsyphillips131 8 ай бұрын
Jelly! I’ve been waiting for a long form video like this for forever! Thank you! Your hard work doesn’t go unnoticed. Thank you so much for blessing us with this queen!
@rachelhansen2417
@rachelhansen2417 8 ай бұрын
No lie, the New York setting, Romeo and Juliet theme, Latin influence, and mid-20th-century time period really lines up with Wesr Side Story.
@abbyvoss8681
@abbyvoss8681 8 ай бұрын
This is on the level of a Defunctland video in my mind this was incredible
@jari1835
@jari1835 8 ай бұрын
babe wake up jelly just posted
@SinistraLupata
@SinistraLupata 8 ай бұрын
The frickin EFFORT in this video. Damn, so much fun, so many details, just wow ❤
@ciara02
@ciara02 8 ай бұрын
Yay little grandpa guy uploaded!! The editing went crazy, awesome video!!! 💗🫶🏻
@plushstrawberryfrog
@plushstrawberryfrog Ай бұрын
More content like this please. This was so fun and resembled one of my ramblings that tends to include everything I’m interested in
@kays7071
@kays7071 8 ай бұрын
Only halfway through the video atm, but using the info that ms darbus wrote it, the way i'm choosing to shoehorn the camel in the musical is to imagine she put in one of those "culturally insensitive filler song sung by a side character" songs that were all over mid century movie musicals
@eatatjoes6751
@eatatjoes6751 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, like, why else would there be a camel in it, if not for that?
@cryforhelp7270
@cryforhelp7270 8 ай бұрын
Ur so right
@newtswampi2583
@newtswampi2583 8 ай бұрын
I've absolutely loved watching your editing getting more and more ambitious every video! Great work!
@laurasantiago24
@laurasantiago24 6 ай бұрын
camel theory: theres a scene of Mr. Schain in the desert, where his diamond mines are, because he’s looking for the next big diamond, camel walks by in the back!
@jasminlynrichards9991
@jasminlynrichards9991 7 ай бұрын
I would actually pay so much money to see a live production of this Twinkle Towne
@supremequeenofeverything
@supremequeenofeverything 8 ай бұрын
My city has a jewelry store called Shane Company who’s saying is “now you have a friend in the diamond business!” So this makes sense to me lol
@paolaluftnagle7099
@paolaluftnagle7099 8 ай бұрын
DREAMJELLY you’ve outdone yourself with this video! This is probably my favorite of your editing and it’s so entertaining to watch the little details you’ve put into the visuals let alone hear your little quips !! You’re always a treat to see pop up on my KZbin page☺️💞🎉
@PackerBacker23
@PackerBacker23 8 ай бұрын
I just found your channel. FANTASTIC research!!! I’m surprised Film Theory hasn’t made a video about this. In fact, I’d go so far as to say this is on par if not better than any film theory episode I’ve seen.
@finn8628
@finn8628 7 ай бұрын
As a fellow high school musical connoisseur I really enjoyed this. This is the best (and only) theory I’ve seen about twinkle town I’ve seen and I’ve now accepted it as cannon.
@halmoser
@halmoser 8 ай бұрын
SERIOUSLY- the amount of editing you did is nuts, hats off 👏👏👏
@feathersflight
@feathersflight 8 ай бұрын
Additional headcanon twist: the "diamond" is actually a STAR, magically turned *into* a diamond, and Omni and his camel are going to return it to the sky.
@snowycatpurrs
@snowycatpurrs 8 ай бұрын
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I just wanted to say that your videos are incredibly entertaining and your voice is so soothing! I loved the part with the little grandpa guy.
@Fangz3113
@Fangz3113 7 ай бұрын
So… I’m not sure if other people mentioned it, but in the ‘High School Musical On Stage’ production, the show East High is doing is Romeo and Juliet. Ms. Darbus’ opening lines in her first scene is literally quoting Romeos famous monologue.
@summerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@summerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 7 ай бұрын
To add the your theory of Miss Darbus’s influence from Romeo and Juliet, the stage version of HSM doesn’t call the musical Twinkle Town; it calls it Juliet and Romeo! So this theory does sound pretty legit, great work detective.
@leoniehafner9426
@leoniehafner9426 8 ай бұрын
Gurrrll i dont even care about HSM, but the editing is crazy!! I love the details of the detective room!! Keep making videos pls!!
@mariac4846
@mariac4846 8 ай бұрын
absolutely love all the animal crossing and ace attorney sound effects, another banger of a video!
@Dragonofyarn
@Dragonofyarn 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if someone who worked on HSM saw this and said that this is all actually right 😂
@bdfreitas4876
@bdfreitas4876 7 ай бұрын
as a high school musical junkie i gotta say this was a pretty fun ride! it's kinda funny how nobody seemed to talk/speculate on what twinkle towne could actually be, now that i think about it xd it's always great to find another bad lip reading fan btw and the shoutout to other creators by the end is a pretty cool thing to do, so props to you! bumped into this video by chance, but i'll be sticking around ^^
@FlopsoTheClown
@FlopsoTheClown 8 ай бұрын
i remember in year 7 of highschool the older years put on a stage performance of highschool musical and before the intermission for break time some of our teachers came out and briefly talked about this oral hygiene campaign before giving every single 11 to 12 year old british child in the room a toothbrush and toothpaste. for the duration of break time 90% of the kids in that year sprayed eachother with toothpaste or squirted it all over the floor of the outdoor areas and just flung the brushes around haphazardly. when we came back from break the musical resumed as normal but then as soon as it ended, our head of year and some other important teaching staff got up from their seats and started screaming at everyone in my year for being stupid and having every individual person line up and return their empty tubes of toothpaste and their toothbrushes to a cardboard box at the front of the main hall. and thats why i associate highschool musical with toothpaste. also cool video ten outta ten.
@Ant_105
@Ant_105 8 ай бұрын
Holy shith girl this video was amazing, you should be proud!
@ParaMarilyn
@ParaMarilyn 8 ай бұрын
dream jelly, your content just keeps getting better and better! i loved this theory so much, and the amount of thorough research you did is so impressive. you deserve so much more love on your channel, i can’t believe this only has 50k views!
@bearly.funk.shwaying
@bearly.funk.shwaying 8 ай бұрын
This fit together way better than I thought it would. Amazing job, I am fully convinced that this should become a real musical now.
@laurabowles
@laurabowles 7 ай бұрын
My theory is that Arnold was at the party because he's working as a servant. For large events like this, it's typical for hosts to hire extra help from the catering company or a similar agency. I see Arnold's mom or dad working for the company full-time and Arnold getting hired for this event (as he does, on occasion) to make some extra cash for the family. I envision Arnold's family as not dreaming of becoming part of the upper class, but rather resentful of the bowing and scraping they have to do for them and how little they get in return. They wouldn't approve of Arnold and Minnie's relationship because they think there's no way her feelings could be genuine. As a member of the upper crust, they assume she must have ulterior motives or at least be flaky/insincere. Arnold's parents also think he's just generally naive, a dreamer with his head in the clouds, what with his obsession with outer space and the telescope he rescued from a dumpster. There's no way they'll ever be able to afford to send him to college to study astronomy, so why bother with the hobby? They think he should focus on learning a practical trade and helping out the family, not staring at the stars and certainly not pursuing a relationship with a girl who clearly does not care about him. HIs parents' disapproval of him mixing with the jet set ultimately comes from a place of love/wanting to protect him from embarrassment and pain, but their cynicism about the world just creates friction in their relationship with Arnold and drives him to run away.
@michaelcarroll5801
@michaelcarroll5801 8 ай бұрын
Some of my favourite content on YT, and just after I was wondering when she'd post again
@cookiemonsterz413
@cookiemonsterz413 8 ай бұрын
I will be entirely honest. I do not think Minnie and Arnold's goal is to steal the necklace. Because it feels like to me that the necklace is a prize in a dance competition, that's why the antagonists sing about dancing. They are trying to win the competition, either by cheating or not, "flash a smile in their direction," get the judges to pick you by any means necessary. But Minnie and Arnold hide their identities and wow the judges. Which would explain why there is a pretty big focus on disco and merengue, both very dance heavy music genres. They are literally designed to be danced to in specific ways. After they win Minnie and Arnold, they are found out and escape.
@Rakkiankh
@Rakkiankh 8 ай бұрын
I remember being obsessed with this movie as a kid, but i never even thought about what the play was about. Maybe its just not my six year old self's priority, but its cool to finally acknowledge it all these years later
@lynnjacobson-c2h
@lynnjacobson-c2h 4 ай бұрын
also, in the musical version of the movie, they perform a completely different musical that is written entirely by kelsi, and it's called juliet and romeo, and is a retelling of romeo and juliet with a happy ending.
@squidboitoys
@squidboitoys 8 ай бұрын
I saw High school Musical 1&2 on ice and I’m only saying this cuz I’ve forgotten about it for soooo long and this video just reminded me about it so thank you.
@KK-moonlite
@KK-moonlite 8 ай бұрын
I have never seen High School Musical so this is all 100% canon to me now.
@amandaa1635
@amandaa1635 8 ай бұрын
I love this channel so much. Every video I see I tell myself “huh I never remembered that until now”. I appreciate your service
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 8 ай бұрын
"You know the world can see us in a way that's different than who we are" goes perfect with Arnold and Minnie being caught for being thieves. Although everyone else thinks bad of them for it, they were able to break free together, so they don't care
@br0kenac1db0nes
@br0kenac1db0nes 8 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, Dream Jelly uploaded a HMS video
@TheGrahamHam
@TheGrahamHam 7 ай бұрын
i love that the movie has you going through all these awesome clues and research, and then the high school musical “on stage” musical just comes out and says on page NINE that it’s “Juliet & Romeo” written by Kelsie lol
@daniegal
@daniegal 8 ай бұрын
This is now my favorite video ever
@geminajamart
@geminajamart 8 ай бұрын
At 23:16 and I'm guessing that Twinkle Towne is just West Side Story...?
@ISwearToKira
@ISwearToKira 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for solving a mystery that I’ve been wondering about for fifteen years
@UrsulaDaSeaWishh
@UrsulaDaSeaWishh 6 ай бұрын
My headcannon is now that the Mr Shane from the play is the same Shane as Shane Company from the “Now you have a friend in the diamond business!” ada
@neivilde.1242
@neivilde.1242 8 ай бұрын
this is a masterpiece on all levels. i do have a suggestion, what if the reason arnold is even at the party is because it's near a really great star gazing spot, so he snuck into a really high building to stargaze, but then saw the party on his telescope and sawminnie, and had to sneak into the party
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