The New King of Grimdark Miniature Painting?

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A new contender has arisen in the field of grimdark miniature painting, Villainy Inks! We put them through their paces and directly compare them to their biggest competitor - streaking grime.
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[@GrimdarkCompendium]

🎉🎉 much appreciated and great video! Here are a few notes for those interested. Batch three is coming up, and here are the planned changes: New Caps - pipette is going away. New binder for Goons Grime, Dystopian Brown, Sector Rust, and Decay of Death for a more beginner friendly formulation. The idea behind the current binder on Villainy Ink Enamels was to be able to have the colors mentioned above to be able to dry anywhere from glossy to matte. The learning on this is steep, however, so I will make the change to accommodate. As a final note, I will say that Villainy Ink, particularly Goons Grime, were not intended to be Ak Replacement and essentially works differently. Buuuuut... this color range has blown up far beyond what I expected, and all sorts of folks are now trying out enamel for the first time or looking to replace AK with Villainy Ink due to their much lower levels of toxicty 😅. So we hit a far broader audience than expected. So batch 3 should be exactly what people are looking for: much easier to handle, lowest toxicity in the enamel market, FUN! 😊😊 Thanks again! 🎉

[@tonta182]

It´s like buying chilli spice bottles, the cooler the lable the better the spice so i heard... i buy my paints with the same principles, better get a set of those Village inks asap!

[@FauxHammer]

I love the fact that yours dries matte to glossy, please don't change... teach us master!

[@GrimdarkCompendium]

@FauxHammer working on it!! That's why I'm taking my time with batch 3. I am trying not to compromise too much on my vision.

[@FauxHammer]

@@GrimdarkCompendium Never give up - never surrender! - Commander Quincy Taggart,

[@jakebull8874]

I'm glad I got 2 of the starter boxes then if its changing, I love it the way it is. That should last a looooong time as im diluting a lot as i use them. After watching the deep voice guy on grimdark comp testing on trench crusade, they have become my favourite paints ❤

[@Skelebob-sp7pn]

Was vaguely interested until I saw the price. Nope! Way too expensive for something which basically amounts to a fancily packaged oil wash.

[@kevinchristoforou1519]

Enamel not oil. Still expensive for what it is.

[@tombrand236]

Agreed. Nearly bought one but with postage it was nearly £20. Too much I think

[@BarokaiRein]

At like 12 pounds a bottle, this is a hard pass. I expect the product to be damn perfect if it costs that much, but this almost feels like the first draft of what these will be with the next iteration.

[@ka5141]

yeah i have these, i had to clean half of the pippettes out with spirit - it's a quick way of doing it and you only need to do it once

[@Spine1337]

Thanks for the honesty. I feel like this is one those "wait for the gen 2 product".

[@thepaintingphase]

Quite possibly, i did struggle and didn't want to lie. Others have done well however so I will ask for some tips.

[@Jamgeoso]

Great video. I like the look of these inks as they feel more like a wash to me which is what I'd prefer having used a lot of oil washes.

[@davetomley3145]

Great video. Really like the honesty and also the great reaction in the comments. More and better tools have already driven painting quality (and importantly for me - ease) forward. I left this pass alone deliberately to see what the reality was and am glad I did, but reckon the next iteration will join my painting supplies 👍

[@liampycroft1834]

These look awesome 👌 I really need to use my inks far more often. I think I'm just nervous that I'll paint a miniature, then ruin it with the inks. But I do have tue Taro tester plates. Ps. That flesh is amazing 👏

[@onispookr1117]

Awesome advice! I’m super happy I watched this. I am totally sold on the crimson. As you said it’s the most unique of the washes since that color really doesn’t exist anywhere else. I’m disappointed to see the massive inflated price of Villainy Inks so I do not think I’ll get the whole set. I will also watch some other videos on them as you suggested. Thanks again!

[@thepaintingphase]

Happy to help, thanks for watching 🤠

[@cantstraferight]

I just got some Villiany Inks and needing to shake the pot first was my big takeaway from my first attempt at using them.

[@FloorSweepersUnion]

Good idea to recommend a respirator to punters, if they’re airbrushing enamels. Super toxic if atomised.

[@TheSixYardBox]

Use eye shadow applicators rather than cotton buds, you don't get bits stringing all over the model and they're way more accurate if you use the sharp end and you could easily clean those pipettes with some spirit

[@mrsmiley92]

Q-tips are way cheaper

[@thepaintingphase]

Good point ☝️ I'll check them out. I also got a big pack of makeup sponges but forgot to try them

[@TheSixYardBox]

@@thepaintingphase yeah the make up sponges can be great for getting loads off quickly and you can tear them into whatever shape you want

[@TheSixYardBox]

@@mrsmiley92 there's really not much price difference here in the uk between cotton buds and eyeshadow applicators. You also don't get left with stringing all over the model

[@AlexAttemptsTabletop]

Great video & the thought of spending £12 for that blood ink is quite tempting 😅 (Not fussed on the rest AK grime has always served me well) Love the podcast/chat videos but this video really shows what else you can offer etc Really lovely stuff all round 👏

[@Pork-Pie-Pete81]

Those paint jobs are amazing. I think grim dark/weathered is your jam. You are very skilled in this area. Thanks for the review. I'm glad im not the only one finding these inks a bit temperamental, I thought i was just being an enamel noob.

[@thepaintingphase]

I'm not sure I'd say very skilled. Happy to be proven wrong about my thoughts etc. but I definitely struggled a bit!

[@OlafThorsson3]

I'm a massive fan of the grim dark style. Oils and enamels are liberating and I hardly used streak and grime. Dark wash is my go to despite the chalkiness. I'm painting Blissarb Archers so I'm fine tuning "Clean Dark" and villainy inks ichor of the damned is amazing for that balance. The Feral Painter does some amazing work with them and show cases different techniques. Yeah it's expensive but so much more flexible than AK washes. I'll be ditching my previous washes for Villainy inks. You did miss out on some important info with what makes them superior over enamel washes. I do think that the comparison is chalk and cheese due the formula of Villiany Inks.

[@Chimer24-qs5wo]

Great review Patrick, and an honest one. I'm still interested in trying Villainy Inks but I'll wait for Batch Three [mentioned below by their creator]. Your finished minis looked fabulous. Thank you )O(

[@Greywolf1066]

I love them, and use them in concurrence with AK Interactive, Ammo from Mig ,traditional oils and acrylics.

[@thepaintingphase]

Awesome, glad you like them!

[@codywebb8572]

Thank You for an honest review. 👍

[@kealyj]

"'I'd love to never say the word pipette again" - call it a dropper instead!

[@thepaintingphase]

A rubber nipple tube sqeezey

[@kealyj]

@@thepaintingphase that sounds too hot for KZbin but I’m told there’s a good market for that sort of thing on the internet.

[@slackeratlarge575]

Very cool

[@the_badger_brush]

“Spinny Results Time” love it 😂

[@thepaintingphase]

Everyone loves spinny results time 🫠

[@ashes2ashesuk]

Thanks, as a mediocre painter, I think that these are more a tool for someone who really needs that specific effect. Streaking grime looks like a better choice

[@thepaintingphase]

🔨 💅 🗣️

[@rcharboneau8782]

It blows my mind that people will spend hundreds on minis and then hesitate on a great tool like a $20 vortex mixer

[@gi1dor]

Vortex Mixer worth every penny which I spent on it

[@Lpziel]

Nice review, thanks! Out of curiosity, how do these compare with using diluted artist oil paints like w&n oils? For the price of 1 bottle of villany you could make up to 250mls of wash from w&n paint + sansodor medium! How are these dedicated ones better?

[@thepaintingphase]

I'm not entirely sure they would be "better" really, just different. Solely on price oils are a no-brainer. Huge range of colours in oils too and results/process would be similar do you think?

[@Lpziel]

@@thepaintingphase I think that the process is probably similar. Just getting into oils myself so don't have much experience yet. Guess they are a bit of a DIY solution and maybe not everyone likes experimenting on their plastic.

[@Mungotastic]

I love Steaks, not so keen on grime though

[@pete104242]

thats why I came to comment. Steaking grime has me torn.

[@thepaintingphase]

oooooooooops, thanks.

[@eduardop727]

I've heard some negative things that the product has a lot of large chunks inside. Happy to see a review on it.

[@nojoho]

I also identify as blind adjacent.

[@crispy_338]

Honestly $12 for a nice enamel wash is a decent price if you’re doing grimdark quite a bit. Plus they’re nicer to use than AK because they’re a bit thicker and don’t just run everywhere. And frankly if you can’t afford to spend some cash on paints or airbrushes then maybe this hobby isn’t for you

[@mrsmiley92]

How long did you let the enamels sit before wiping them off with white spirits?

[@thepaintingphase]

Streaking grime, less than 5 minutes. The first Villainy ink probably over an hour.

[@FrozenThrog]

I don't like name of villainy "inks". They should have chosen something else as to not confuse it with regular inks.

[@thepaintingphase]

Agreed, it does sound cool though.

[@manapause]

Oily Villains

[@FauxHammer]

Villainy Enamels?

[@FrozenThrog]

@@FauxHammer I'll take it. Not as catchy, but certainly more descriptive.

[@innerforce7395]

They leave a greasy gloss in the miniature... so no I prefer other enamels

[@jacket2848]

Almost 3 times the price and issues with the bottle, sod that. Don't need to watch much further :D

[@peterwitczak3124]

Agrax earthshade works just fine.

[@thepaintingphase]

Streaking grime and agrax are almost the same price now. Crazy.

[@peterwitczak3124]

@thepaintingphase Agreed! I've only needed one bottle for my whole army, though. In my opinion, it gives DG the best look.

[@WillMorrey]

This is properly useful consumer programming... along with enjoying the chat shows, hobby chatter and so on, _this_ is the other side of your content that hooks me to you Patreon. 🫶🏼🤝🏻 I find the approach of adding a product and then removing much/most of it weird at the best of times but to have an awkward product on top of that, nope, not for me. Thanks Painting Phase for taking that plunge and being lemmings for us. I found the same sort of feeling from the airbrush comparison/review episode as I find them tempting but overly off-putting hassle.

[@pbkobold]

If it feels awkward, Marco Frisoni is a pro mini painter worth watching to see oil wash subtractive processes at their best. He sold me on oil washes for speed painting.