The NHL really needs to pay attention...

In last night's PWHL game with Toronto VS New York we saw the first ever jail break goal in action! That and more in today's PWHL Hockey video

[@justingillis9254]

Minnesota's crowd was bumpin this afternoon, over 13k in attendance and the leagues first hatty

[@mv3380]

To watch peewee hockey lmao

[@Ironguy-gm6vf]

​@@mv3380😂

[@laronda10]

​@@mv3380 a pee wee hockey game is still ten times more exciting then a nba game so yah

[@darrenfleming7901]

Minnesota looks dominant too tbh

[@milanek1527]

Tbh peewee hockey can be fun. NHL's games are rigged and refs are bribed. Bettman isn't helping eithet with his "promotion" of the game.​@@mv3380

[@nosna9116]

As an oiler fan I’m extremely impressed with the play of the pwhl. It’s not every day you find a competent Campbell in goal.

[@alexanderstark5192]

Hope edmonton gets a team that'd be dope

[@alexandrapreston7283]

As a fellow oilers fan all I have to say is: LOL💀

[@seanaldmcseansington]

LOL

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

💀💀

[@Spartan086]

💀

[@FinnishJager]

I hope this league sticks around and draws more European players into it. Great for hockey and growing the game.

[@princemoneycat5294]

My only problem with this is that the shirts look ugly

[@dudelove69]

No growth is needed

[@thecaffeinequeen]

Hey Eck. I don't know if you'll see this comment, but I just wanted to personally thank you SO SO MUCH for covering the PWHL. I hope others start to cover this new and exciting hockey league as well. I know there are some KZbin Creators (Won't name any names) who aren't wanting to cover the content because they're afraid their mostly male centric viewers won't like it, and/or feel like it isn't really a departure from covering beer league or college level hockey, and as such not worth the time. But, for creators like you, your coverage is much MUCH appreciate. Stick taps from this former player, and thank you. (I did an edit of this comment cause I did basically quote one of the creators, and after thinking about it, it seemed like an attack even though they weren't named. So decided to rephrase a bit.)

[@BeerandCheez]

The New York turnout was low due to them playing in Bridgeport, CT. They'll be playing 4 games in the same arena the Islanders play in, so should get much better numbers there, on par with the other teams. Speaking of attendance with other teams, here in MN we ended up not just with 10k, but over 13k! The place was absolutely rocking, was a ton of fun.

[@redcoldchillipeppers]

please keep promoting these ladies. i think it's awesome people are showing up and they need more

[@Aloudgamer]

Patiently waiting for a West Coast expansion. This league looks so fun and hopefully Vancouver will have a team to follow soon

[@SportySpotlight]

You and me both!

[@gcgcgc123]

yess!! where do you think the vancouver games could be played?

[@SportySpotlight]

@@gcgcgc123 That’s a great question. I’d want Rogers Arena because it’s so central. However it could be Pacific Coliseum. Took my daughter there for Disney on Ice and it wasn’t too bad! What do you think?

[@adamleblanc5294]

I think it will take 3-4 years. The league needs to get a solid revenu/fan base to support the travel first, but I think it will get there. It's good hockey.

[@SportySpotlight]

@@adamleblanc5294 I totally agree. It’s definitely not a near-term thing, but I certainly hope it’ll get here. I’ll support it from afar until then!

[@V.O.Y.S.]

Have watched all 5 games so far... They are doing great, the games are pretty high energy, lots of physical play, watching all the first has been really fun too. Watched the first hattrick earlier today and that was cool, was a natural hattrick in a 3-0 win too!!

[@mrpenn4613]

Saw the MN/MTL game today and I like that they are letting them play physical. According to some googling they are using a lot of AHL ref's and only tweaking the NHL rulebook slightly.

[@cd8361]

Are you a bot

[@KennyCranberry]

Jailbreak goals are awesome. I love the risk vs reward aspect. So glad to see you giving this league coverage

[@windwalker5765]

Does the jailbreak only end the PP (and not score a point) or do you actually get a goal?

[@yaboixxiti]

@@windwalker5765you get a goal I’d assume otherwise it would be a horrible rule

[@beepboopbleep3695]

kind of a weird rule, the Lightning's Cirelli would have a great time with this one

[@YZER19]

It will destroy the sport in a physical mens league. You will get away with dirty plays and not be punished by a full force power play. Power play units will play way less risky due to the high damage a short handed goal will cause. This rule only works in low physical leagues

[@peacebringer8]

​@@YZER19 I don't think you've been watching any PWHL games. They ARE playing physical. The main difference is that they try to play fair, and in the NHL we have a lot of rats that just play dirty, nothing to do with physical. But yeah, it would need tweaking. Maybe only allowing the PP to end if it wasn't due to a possibility of injury play. Let's say, over the glass PP could be given a Jailbreak PK, covering the puck could get Jailbreak PK. But then slewfooting, boarding, high sticking would be regular full time power plays. I can see something like that working

[@Shanenator777]

These PWHL highlights honestly look really good! It's fun to see the gals finally getting a chance to play the game in the physical, fast-paced manner we've come to enjoy. Really great for the sport of hockey!

[@LukeVenables]

I'm all-in on the PWHL. I've been watching on KZbin and joining in on the chat. It's great fun. I really hope the league succeeds long term. That jailbreak was awesome. That rule makes Power Plays way more interesting. Both teams attack. It's great.

[@matthewmurray8570]

My family and I were at the Minnesota game. Almost 14K people. One of the best sporting experiences I've ever had. It was magical - an entire arena just stoked to be watching a real women's league. The game was fantastic, the production was pro-level - they are doing it right. Can't wait to see more. Also, you could tell the shorthanded rule was working - very few dumps down the ice, and lots of carries from the shorthanded team. Both teams trying to score.

[@perrykomick9478]

😂😂you need to get out more😂😂..

[@guccilibrarian4728]

​@@perrykomick9478Clown comment 🤡

[@matthewmurray8570]

@@perrykomick9478 You need women to like you more.

[@perrykomick9478]

@@matthewmurray8570 😂clever😂

[@maxpowr90]

NYC is playing in Bridgeport, Connecticut; home of the Islanders' AHL affiliate. It's the same problem with the "Boston" team, playing in Lowell, MA; playing at UMass Lowell; which might as well be New Hampshire. Both teams need to play in rinks closer to their perspective cities. Put the NYC ladies in Nassau and the Boston ones in Agganis at Boston University.

[@Leon-de-Leon]

Exactly! You can see that they had more people in the crowd with Hartford Whalers or Connecticut Whale jerseys than the New York Islanders or Rangers. It's hard to attract New Yorkers when you are too far from the Big Apple and hard for people from Connecticut to be connected with a team who don't have the name of your state or your city (even if, as you say, Bridgeport is affiliate to the Islanders).

[@plushie946]

unfortunately it just becomes so much more complicated having to play in a rink with NHL match load. Scheduling becomes exponentially more difficult. Look at Scotiabank for example. It almost literally cannot host more games than it does. The Marlies already only use it for some of their matches. This is gonna be an issue for any new hockey leagues since most big cities host at least 2 other teams at their most central arena already.

[@gabetalks9275]

I think putting NYC in Izod Center would be better. Meadowlands is way closer to downtown than Long Island.

[@mal2ksc]

@@Leon-de-Leon This may not be an entirely bad thing. Local but hardcore fandom will probably weather the inevitable ups and downs of fortune better than a mostly passive audience in a big city.

[@ozziehall779]

Ny is splitting it's home games between Bridgeport's Total Mortgage and UBS Arena in Queens. I'm curious to see the turnout in UBS.

[@darkbreaker9767]

The fact that the New York City team is playing in East Nowhere, Connecticut is why their attendance was bad. The fact that the Minnesota franchise sold over 13,000 tickets at Xcel Energy Center proves that all these games should be played in *actual* arenas.

[@tcort]

Thanks for covering the PWHL!

[@sidviscosity2243]

The PWHL has been fun to watch, and they don't have those stupid digital board ads!

[@leanercleaner698]

You do understand they want that, right? It's sponsorship...money.

[@spartuz71]

It just a matter of time, they're coming, you need the revenue!!!

[@sidviscosity2243]

@@leanercleaner698 Of course they want sponsorship. Sponsorship and digital board ads aren't mutually exclusive. Maybe they'll figure out a way to get more sponsorship without sacrificing the viewing experience for fans.

[@zelgkopitar8799]

Did you ask yourself why they dont have them?

[@Whitewolf1827]

Did yall know that they dont get financial support from nhl so they probably wont have the same kinds of things happen

[@horsefle]

I’m so glad this league I doing well, so far it’s everything I wanted, and more!

[@SSNESS]

Bridgeport, Connecticut

[@rowdyruffboy120]

Now we need teams in Nashville and Savannah

[@Megarah0]

@@rowdyruffboy120Halifax, we can totally do it trust me bro

[@leanercleaner698]

It's new, a novelty. I don't know where the home arenas are but if they are in city centres it's a mistake. No one is going to deal with traffic and parking to watch this. Hopefully they are in a densely populated suburb with easy access for potential fans and with reasonable prices.

[@rowdyruffboy120]

@@leanercleaner698 Bridgestone Arena and Enmarket Arena already have NHL and ECHL teams (Nashville Predators/Savannah Ghost Pirates) they are hockeytowns and will support a PWHL team The Nashville Notes and Savannah Sorcerers, coming soon 👀

[@juligrace63]

I have loved watching the pwhl so much, I love that the women are getting their time to shine.

[@corey6393]

Watched the MN home opener yesterday. Attendance was over 13K! I love the jail break rule, and I love that all games can be viewed without stupid blackouts. Great hockey, great skill, fun to watch. Are you listening Gary?

[@punslord]

This league is dope af and the storylines re writing themselves. Amazing product, hope they expand if the player pool can sustain it. I want to see the Inferno reborn!

[@PeachRap]

Calgary Inferno had the sickest logo of all time!

[@Lyons_N_Stuff]

I love the Toronto v New York rivalry already brewing! it'll be so exciting to see how this all plays out!

[@EstebanDVO]

Love the jailbreak rule.

[@MrJoeolive]

Watched a whole lot more of the Minnesota Montreal game than I expected. The hockey is good. Hope they can keep it up throughout the season.

[@Nikephorus]

I've watched all the games except the last one in Minnesota and, for the most part, have enjoyed the experience. Frankly, it's quite impressive that they managed to organize this league in about 6 months. I'm quite optimistic that viewership and attendance in Canada will be strong given our love for hockey up here. With the ability for the players to practice year-round rather than part-time while juggling other jobs, the talent is bound to improve over time. The twist of short-handed goals ending power plays is intriguing. I'm uncertain about its overall impact, but it's a fascinating change nonetheless.

[@plushie946]

Also getting to know their teammates better. Some of these women only ever played *against* their teammates and only started practicing with each other around 6 months ago, less in some cases. I imagine even by the second season there will be a lot fewer mistakes and better passing. But even barring that it was definitely on par with the lowest levels of mens pro hockey already imo. Pace felt similar to OHL to me, just with a little worse teamplay which is to be expected.

[@xSHOOTERTOOTERx]

The energy level at Minnesota game was so over the top it was amazing!!! NHL fans need to take note on this... the wild gave tons of support and a bunch of players were in attendance with their families... it was great...

[@MikeCo32]

13K in Minnesota today. If a Halifax team could get the 4 Nova Scotians in the league (Turnbull, Saulnier, Munroe, Jackson) that would be cool.

[@ngarcia103]

Another thing the NHL needs to take note of? One reason why the PWHL's numbers have been so good is because they make their games accessible to all. They have no ridiculous blackouts. If you don't have one of their TV partners, you can watch their games on their KZbin channel.

[@AnthonyD1986]

The NHL needs to start promoting this if they haven’t already. Hope this league succeeds.

[@EZMilos88]

I'm so impressed by this league, the brains behind it need major kudos.

[@Bfrd25]

@@DANZIG138 when you look at how long they had to put the league together it's understandable. Team names also "leaked" early and I think that had a part to play too as no one liked them

[@Whitewolf1827]

@@DANZIG138they have them they were just rushed to put the league together

[@DrPepperCooled4090]

@@DANZIG138 bro the league was put together in like 6 months lmao, for what we get, this is awesome. grow up and stop finding reasons to hate on them trying to grow the sport

[@DANZIG138]

@@Whitewolf1827 they bought a league with established teams and logos

[@Whitewolf1827]

@@DANZIG138 it was decided amongst the teams

[@leehrvyoswld]

I'm enjoying PWHL bigtime. The personalities are starting to come out!

[@DefiantBIdet]

really diggin' the PWHL - surprisingly more physical play than i was expecting fun league so far hope it does well.

[@sirfrostysnow6913]

Good to fucking see the league doing this well this early, and not being afraid to change some rules around, hope it stays going

[@obamafan6949]

They should test around with the rules because there would be not point of watching like instead of a penalty you get awarded 6 v 5

[@Dahkeus3]

My first time hearing about the PWHL, but I will definitely be checking out the KZbin streams! Hope to see success for this league!

[@Colyde25]

Minnesota seems to be the crowd favorite rn they definitely are a great team. Boston could have easily taken away their lead but the goaltending was superb keeping Boston off the board.

[@SonOfTamriel]

I love watching PWHL streams. Still not sure what team I want to root for, prob Montreal, and Ottawa. Excited to watch this expand and team names, jersey's, and the stars.

[@salianni16]

I would pick Toronto because it is the home of hockey and they play their home games in Maple Leaf Gardens which is now called the Mattamy Centre.

[@darrenfleming7901]

I would cheer for Montreal but they don't look all that good so far, Toronto was really fun to watch the other day so I might cheer for them. I can't wait for them to get team names and logos to really flesh out their identities and start building a fanbase

[@secretlobsterclawsandother2060]

I've decided to cheer for the home teams until I start finding myself rooting for someone

[@darkbreaker9767]

Root for Minnesota because that state needs some happiness

[@salianni16]

@@darrenfleming7901 I've got a couple of names picked out already. See what you think. I'll try to come up with better ones if you don't like them. How about the Boston Belles, Minnesota Maidens, Montreal Mademoiselles, and Toronto Tomboys?

[@NuttoBoy]

Changing the rule of no contact to full contact really changed the game for this girl. Can not wait till Edmonton has a team

[@matteogavinson3549]

I’m glad this league is getting the hype it is.

[@tpc_red9884]

I think having the New York team play almost all their home games in Connecticut is hurting attendance. I'm going to the game in the islanders arena, I'm hoping the numbers will be better there.

[@davef4214]

Really hope they expand this league. I'd love to see another team in Tampa

[@ryujin1075]

Agree on the attendance count of this game. Really surprising to see, even for Long Island New York (I think that is where this team is based, I don't remember if this was Metro NY) the empty seats got me. Hopefully next game they'll be plenty of fans coming in. I do like the PK rule and hopefully it will be universally adopted. I'm also hoping that PP rule will get implemented as well, maybe come playoff time. Where PP goals doesn't end the penalty, time gets served even if the opposing team score like 3 PP goals.

[@Liggie55821]

-- This game was in Bridgeport, Conn., so that may partially explain the smaller crowd for the opener. The NY team will play in a few different NY-area arenas this season, including Long Island. -- I don't mind the jailbreak goal for minor penalties, but I think it shouldn't count for majors. If you did something nasty enough to earn 5 minutes, your team should still have to play a player down the full 5 minutes, regardless of any shorties they score. Apparently the PWHL rule book limits the jailbreak goal to minors.

[@lakkuh]

Love this. PWHL needs more attention. Been excited to watch the games.

[@schuug]

I played house hockey all my life and rules were changed one year so that girls and boys played together... the girls were way more competitive and aggressive than any of the guys lmao. They were scary af

[@abe1996]

"Down a man." You know they're women, right? 😂

[@russianlearning5817]

''man'' can also mean ''human''.

[@abe1996]

@@russianlearning5817 Man means adult human male. Woman means adult human female. In this context, he should have said, "down a woman."

[@ccm0222]

PWHL has been awesome so far, rule changes are interesting and the games feel important

[@perrykomick9478]

😂important to who?😂

[@dylanjohnston5848]

I have to say, glad to see an awesome hockey league for Professional Women's Hockey. Just as we see for college and even U18 players after high school, besides the college league and even in the international stage during the Winter Olympics, there's really no high-level league for women's hockey and after college hockey or the Olympics, it's sadly the end. So with the Professional Women's Hockey League, I think this really gives athletes who want to continue to play at a competitive level. This also could not only jump-start a more focused league for female hockey players but talk about a chance to pull players international just like in the college or NHL level. This is something I've been excited for since the last Professional league so hoping that it continues to grow!!!!!

[@tastyneck]

Agreed. Giving women a pro league that actually pays a living wage is huge with growing the sport and increasing the skill. Like you said, there's more than just college and the Olympics to aim for.

[@robertperrotto870]

this is not true at all, they have the world cup every year for women's hockey.

[@dylanjohnston5848]

@@robertperrotto870 Okay they do! I only saw they have teams for College, U18 IIHF Tournament, and the Olympics. I had no idea, thanks for letting me know!!

[@justinmcnally5395]

Really liking this league. Still wish there was more physical play but all around pretty impressed. I'd pay to go to a game if one were closer to me.

[@darrenfleming7901]

I think the physical side is an adaptation, I watched Toronto and New York and it was physical as hell, but other games not so much. But since the refs are allowing it I think it's definitely something that's gonna evolve as the teams settle and start making roster changes, the more physical teams will dominate everyone imo so other teams will follow along in time.

[@Matty-27]

I was hoping the same, especially since the SDHL has explicitly allowed body checks except for open ice ones going in opposite directions (same direction is fine) for the past season and a half and it's been going well for them. They're not as physical as the PWHL has shown itself to be so far though, wouldn't surprise me if the bigger international ice is a factor. So i was really disappointed when someone in a press conference about the PWHL a while back said "checking isn't part of the women's game." Not universally true! That's only true if you make it be true and you don't have to! And then i watched the first game and was pleasantly surprised at the body contact. And you know, it's a league that's just getting started, the fact that they're allowing this kinda of physicality in a brand new league makes me hopeful that if it goes well (seems to be so far) and the players enjoy it, they'll be open to even more checking and physicality in the future! I know the players have found the body check penalties obnoxious in the past, I'm so happy for them that they were able to advocate for that to be largely done away with!

[@chuckscott1974]

Probably the biggest reason for low attendance was the game being in Bridgeport where they women's hockey fans wanted a team back there again and didn't get one. Should be better attendance if they actually play in New York

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

The game is awesome…Toronto and NY are by far the most physical games (I think the league hasn’t decided how to call the hits yet)…the announcers in Minnesota and Boston were great…the worst was NY…I hope we have a KZbin channel decided to commentary on the sport. -NY is 0-7 on power plays let a short handed goal. - is NY going to switch goalies every game? -Todays first goal was really soft, I think it took MTL off there game. -Boston seemed to be the most dominate especially that 1st line. Even thought they lost. - Nurse has only one assist. “Is she overhyped” kinda narrative - Ottawa seemed to be really undersized how’s that going to translate in a contact league - is Zumwhinkle gonna be MVP with 4 goals? … Just some genuinely analysis, sprinkle a bit of overreacting, so fans of sport can get into the players and how they play same way we react to Ovi having a “drought” and is it over for him, is Berdard overhyped. That kinda stuff would be great for the league and the players.

[@darrenfleming7901]

marketing teams and players is definitely the way to make the league interesting, the more rivalries and narratives they can make the better it will be to get people interested.

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

@@darrenfleming7901 exactly and some online chirp is entertaining between games 😂

[@darrenfleming7901]

@@VOLUMEnightclub true that, as long as it doesn't become "toronto derangement syndrome" levels of online chirping, or "toronto coping syndrome" the other way around.

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

@@darrenfleming7901 Toronto will do Toronto things 😂….but I was more specifically talking about the commentators of the community. If we watch hockey all the highlights for a month of “this is why Conor will get traded” or “will ovi catch Gretzky”…I wanna watch videos about players idk yet and learn there personalities and hopefully build rivalries not just teams but players (Avery/ Brodeur)(Ovi/ Crosby). If you watch the NY/ Toronto 2nd game, the announcers were boarder line unlistenable, they literally went minutes without talking about a single player, didn’t talk/ follow what was going on the ice, and just waited til one of the “famous” players touch the puck and they would say what was going on…I literally had my laptop with him so I could follow some of the players 😡. So I really want players to shine who weren’t a caption of the national team or something like that, and it starts with channels building up these players. (Sorry I’m overly passionate about this league and the players) 😂

[@SlipknotKid3]

In terms of skill, it's like watching OHL hockey; and that's not a knock, as long as it's competitive and exciting, it's worth watching. There's a lot of hype right now, we'll see how it turns out, but I think there is more of a desire/passion for women's hockey than other women's sports, and the PWHL will see much more success than the WNBA if they can keep the hype going and build a good fanbase. The cities that have teams currently are hockey cities, so they love it. It will be a lot cooler once the teams have names, logos, and a brand. Women's professional hockey up until now has basically been team Canada vs. team USA so there is a familiarity with a lot of the players in the PWHL, which helps the league. The NHL is worth around $42b, so the PWHL will have to make quite a splash to gain traction and become a larger part of professional hockey culture, but it's definitely been fun so far. They're really leaning into all the 'yay for women' stuff right now, which is awesome, deserved and obviously people understand it's a huge achievement, but eventually it will have to be more about just hockey players playing hockey. Hoping for nothing but the best for all involved!

[@deserttrailscout]

This game was sick to watch, very skilled players busting out behind the back passes and being physical

[@aaronrhodes7268]

I once saw my Coyotes gets scored on 3-5 by Jack Eichel and ever since then I’ve been wanting this rule change to happen because you don’t deserve a power play if you’re gonna get scored on like that😂

[@mr.wassell7885]

I appreciate the coverage of the PWHL, Eck. Im interested in keeping up with the league, but I'm not sure how to watch

[@triflash1462]

Every game (so far) has been on the PWHL KZbin channel, the streams start 15 min before the game and (not verified) it seems that it will be all the season

[@Julia-jk4hw]

It’s free on the PWHL KZbin! they stream them live but after it’s still free :)

[@GreatCdn59]

In their chat, I'm pretty sure they confirmed they will broadcast every game from every team - so that's exciting! "The PWHL" is the name of their official channel - all their full games are under the "live" tab

[@russianlearning5817]

You lay back and take a nap. Better use of your time lol

[@bren7431]

This is easily the most promising league women’s hockey has had

[@funforalgernon]

The praise among my circle has been universal. Looking forward to attending my first PWHL game in Ottawa very soon. Beats the hell out of watching those spoiled and whiny Sens kids.

[@leanercleaner698]

I know. Way too fast.

[@gabetalks9275]

The PWHL would not be thriving nearly as much as it is if they weren't streaming all of their games for free on KZbin. This is proof that providing legal access to games is essential for growing the game. The fact that the PWHL is doing a better job growing the game than the NHL is such a bad look. The NHL desperately needs a change in leadership because the PWHL is clearly in the good hands of smart people who actually know what they're doing.

[@danb5328]

I live in Manhattan but to make it all the way out to the game is like a half-day endeavor without a car. Wish it was closer so I could go

[@Bfrd25]

I went to the opener in Boston and wish it were like Minnesota's today. However when Boston finally gets put in the city proper, and when NY isn't playing in Connecticut we'll see what happens

[@Jrodsly]

The NHL has a severe problem with innovation and it all stems from the guy at the top. You gotta get someone at the top that can see stuff like this in other leagues and adapt it to the NHL. Bettman has no intention of doing that and has been keeping the NHL at 6th choice in North America (probably 7th if this new league keeps up the momentum), so he needs to go.

[@BensBrickDesigns]

I want the PWHL to succeed so bad. I'll be really happy when Denver gets a team. I like the jailbreak goal. I don't know that it'll work for the NHL, but who knows.

[@thatguy9940]

I was at the NYC home opener. The poor attendance is strictly due to the fact that the game was held in Bridgeport, CT. That’s at the outer fringe of the NYC Metro Area. It took me 4 hours to get to the game and 4 hours to go home. Don’t get me wrong, the game was intense, but the venue sucked. Now, the PWHL will host a few games at UBS Arena which is a LOT more accessible for NY fans than Bridgeport. However, Bridgeport will remain the primary arena. If that remains the case; NYC will continue to suffer poor attendance. I LOVE PWHL NY, but they HAVE TO leave Bridgeport for either UBS, Nassau Coliseum or Prudential Center. I’ll take any of them over Bridgeport.

[@simonforester424]

I think the rule makes sense! 🤷‍♂️

[@mandar107]

Really cheering for this league. All the players are loving it and are absolutely passionate, and that makes for great entertaining hockey. NY honestly got robbed with that disallowed goal though, and that could have made all the difference. Still glad Toronto has a W now though.

[@alexwilliamwin]

This isn't meant to be negative in any way, but PWHL is the most entertaining women's league I can recall. The new rules make it exciting too!

[@kirstenkane4469]

Regarding attendance for the New York game - I agree that it was disappointing but tbh I think they shot themselves in the foot by playing at the AHL arena in Bridgeport I'm a west coast fan, and I researched what it would look like were I to take some friends in the New York area out to a game, and it's a good hour drive from Manhattan. As a visitor that's enough of a pain in the ass, I couldn't imagine if I was working a full time job in NY and wanting to take my kids. Am i dicounting some of the fans in connecticut? probably, but I imagine that they're losing out on a good chunk of working class fans in the NYC area for sure. I'm not sure if they could have reasonably sold out someplace like Madison Square Garden enough to book that as a home arena, but something not immediately within range of public transportation might make this a hard sell for the NY market, from my perspective.

[@robertperrotto870]

have watched all 5 games so far. The pace, physicality, and talent is there - it's a good product, and it will get better when the teams start to gel together. It is not NHL hockey, nor do I expect NHL hockey from them, but they are on par with AHL level of play. Should the NHL promote this product? Yes, but not to the degree that the NBA is involved in the WNBA. Todays game , between Montreal and Minnesota, had 13k in the seats, and another 16k watching the youtube channel. 30k engaged with the game is phenomenal, and should draw some eyes from sponsors. Sad to see Tim Hortons is not a major sponsor yet.

[@MrIndiemusic101]

Id rather the NHL stay out of their way for now. The less people and monied interests with their own agenda involved means a more focused purpose built product. I think its best for this league to grow on its own merits atleast for a time being. Right now it feels like the actual sport is being put on the forefront which is refreshing when compared to these bloated leagues these days like the NFL, NBA, and NHL.

[@ButtersTheGreat1]

I have been saying the NHL should go to a 3,2,1 point system and get rid of the trapezoid rule for years.

[@GodfatherBoxSet]

I really hope they capitalize on smaller non nhl markets. Halifax is great, Cleveland or Cincinnati OH, St. Johns NS, Erie PA. All places that have a good market for thier current teams that would support a PWHL team. Having teams close to NHL locations so they can partner up would work well too

[@goalieman206]

Honestly i'd love to watch these games. I watched woman's team USA play against our local junior team and it was super fun to watch. Now that being said most of these woman's teams are about as good as juniors but it would still be entertaining to watch.

[@RGP43_]

This league looks great, sad to see how many people are showing true colors and hating, any chance they get.

[@starpetalarts6668]

They should try handing out penalty shots when the penalty goes beyond the game timer. So that teams can't just negate icings during extra attacks.

[@Xzyum00]

Minnesotans like me love hockey.... and the wild have done nothing for us... of course it's selling

[@LtDan6969]

I would love an Atlantic Canadian team!! I would definitely attend some games as we Islanders don’t have much going on here 😂

[@SpooksDinat]

Ilike the Champions Hockey League Power Play rules they implemented this year 1) If you score on a delayed penalty, the offending player/team still goes to the penalty box 2) If you score on the Power Play, the player still remains in the Penalty Box until penalty time is up 3) Score a Short handed goal to end the Power Play

[@christiangomez6856]

I love the idea of jailbreak goals but I was upset about the disallowed goal. Recently in the Tampa Montreal game we had a puck not frozen leading to a strange goal then here in the pwhl with Toronto and New York we have a puck that wasn’t called frozen leading to a disallowed goal. I understand that the refs probably meant to whistle a bit faster but everyone always says play til the whistle and that’s what New York did here

[@jackoblllllllll]

It’s pretty clever of them to broadcast the games on youtube. This was a fun game. Girls were getting chippy 😄

[@cowscrazy]

I really don't like this rule. Sooner or later someone is going to do something thats going to stir things up a bit much

[@HALberdier17]

I'm think the jailbreak rule is cool. But to balance it out I think a powerplay goal shouldn't end a penalty.

[@MikoDraw]

To be fair for New York’s poor attendance, that game was in Connecticut and not actually in New York the state

[@noot6230]

So I can probably assume attendance was low cuz New York is playing in Bridgeport Connecticut, that’s the islanders affiliate. Kind of hard to get New Yorkers to go over there cuz it’s either a long ass drive or a ferry ride.

[@stevecorreia9589]

Please adopt the jailbreak in every level of hockey!! Such a cool concept!!

[@AccipiterF1]

I'm nut sure about the Jailbreak. I always figured the reward for a short-handed goal was the goal.

[@meesterbundy]

I’m ok with the jailbreak rule for penalties that wouldn’t normally result in injury i.e. tripping or holding… I think for penalties for high sticking or cross checking (which is now a huge problem for the nhl) the jailbreak rule should not apply

[@Youre-Welcome]

Here in Minnesota, we definitely take our women's hockey seriously. Bonus that there are so many good games out there to enjoy from men's and women's teams.

[@lucasweis2851]

New York plays half their games in Hartford ct which sucks to get to for ny/nj so that may contribute to low ticket sales

[@Gallalad1]

I was so happy to see Ottawa getting one of the initial teams. Up the ladies in red! I am pleasantly surprised at how physical it is too. Imma attend more games, especially knowing that its a physical game. Womens hockey has a bright future ahead of it if they can keep up this intensity! COYGIR!

[@iron___]

I watched a bit of a game the other day, the quality of play is extremely good. As entertaining as the NHL. Definitely hope this league does well, the players are very talented.

[@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija]

Great start, this league has exceeded my expectations

[@JJ............................]

I don't think the jailbreak is a bad thing for minor penalties like a hooking or roughing, but it definitely shouldn't be a thing for hits to the head, double minors, and 5 minute majors.

[@rayspooner1982]

Sick goalie pads on the NY goalie.

[@fr3sh414]

this has been fun as hell to watch thus far, hope it sticks

[@VisionThing]

This is what WNBA should have been. People can’t get enough of this with sold out crowds. Genius move to allow physicality and trying out new rules.

[@tjpelio8798]

For the New York games they don’t sell the other side of the stadium for some reason

[@my3dviews]

Likely because they only sold 2100 tickets and only open up the sections necessary. I've seen soccer games where only one side of the stadium is sold for that reason. No need to clean up the unused side.

[@ChrisTallant]

I think it's amazing that they have a jai;break option. Also would love to see some more teams (hint hint Michigan)

[@mrpenn4613]

I kind of like the jail break concept. One question I do have is why are the referee's wearing purple armbands instead of the normal orange?

[@audrey3155]

as a girl who grew up playing hockey this is the greatest thing to happen to hockey in my lifetime

[@JoeyVilleneuve]

I seem to be the only person who doesn't like the jailbreak rule. Penalties are to punish an offending team. If the team with the powerplay makes a mistake, by allowing a SHG, then they get penalized by losing their PP and the original offending team get's a lowered "sentence"? I think it should be the opposite, not only do you not get out of the penalty if your team scores a SHG, but you should have to serve the entire 2 minutes, regardless of how many goals you get scored on, just like a 5-minute major. The whole point of penalties is to drill into the players heads to not do what they're not allowed to do and punish them when they DO do it.

[@scottrgarland]

I only missed one game so far but they'll all been really fun to watch. I think it's simply a huge step for the game of hcokey in general. The jailbreak goal is awesome, I think it adds a lot more to the game but there's still a huge risk in rushing down and potentially leaving the play at the other end.

[@perrykomick9478]

Yes...huge step for hockey...promoting a professional league which every team would get beat by ANY junior team😂

[@brandonstriegel3461]

It seems like the jailbreak goal feels really good and earned when it’s for you bc it was hard and feels really unfair against you bc it double punishes you. You messed up and now your down a goal and you lose your advantage to try to get it back. Like the person who commuted the penalty still did that. Y does their team doing good negate their punishment? Idk

[@reckonerwheel5336]

I’m a small town Canadian gal so NHL hockey has been around me all my life, dad liked to watch, but I was never interested, too annoyingly macho for me to connect with… The PWHL though is hypnotizing me. Doesn’t matter to me that NHL players are better, what matters to me is seeing how far *women* can go. They feel so relatable as women too, like they’re like your female jock bestie from high school… Anyway, I hope they can attract an even wider female audience. I think women connect with athletes as people first and foremost, not as athletes, so if the PWHL gets content out there showing the players’ personal lives and their chemistry with each other, it’ll turn more girls into fan girls.

[@Wers11111]

Lack of fans could be because the New York team plays in BRIDGPORT CONNETICUT

[@bruce2404]

Love watching the games on KZbin. Love the 3-2-1 points. Love no trapezoid. Jailbreak is a gimmick. If you want to increase offense, make players serve the full penalty, whether a goal is scored (by either team) or not.