The Odd German Version of the Desert Tech MDR [IWA 2022]

[@SpaetzleOperator]

Was a blast! Thank you for the opportunity to show your viewers a glimpse of our silly laws!

[@mikeadams6036]

Great interview!!!

[@SpaetzleOperator]

@@mikeadams6036 thank you!

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

Hey, we feel a little of your pain. Sorry it sucks so bad, work for change. Love Germany, and hope to visit again

[@SpaetzleOperator]

@@justanothergunnerd8128 you are welcome. Yes, they are.

[@gunsandcommissions]

You are clearly a Patriot.

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

This guy sounds exactly like I do when I imitate a German accent. Pretty proud of myself.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

Ze German is strong in me.

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

@@SpaetzleOperator Wunderbar!

[@gunsandcommissions]

Lol same. I know he's Austrian, but this is literally my Arnold impersonation.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

@@gunsandcommissions 😅😅😅

[@texasranger24]

Yeah, German law do be like that. What Kuma tried to explain at 4:34 is that you need a hunting license or sportshooting passport to get a gun. Self defense or fun is not a reason to get a gun in germany. You need a license first. To get the hunting license, you need a 9 month couse twice a week or 3 week intensive training (all 21 days, 8 to 10 hours). This will cost 1000 to 3000 euro, plus ammo and range fees upwards of another 1000 euro. They you do a 1 or 2 day exam with 2000+ question pool multiple choice, shooting clays and rifle, plus oral exam (depends on the state). Another few hundred euros for insurance, hunting license and gun owner license and you can invest 1000 euro in a high security safe. THEN you may buy as many rifles as you want, so long as you register them in your ownership card within 2 weeks (for 30 euros of course, shit ain't free). Sport shooters need a legal and safety training course (Sachkunde) and 18 training sessions with loaner weapons within one year, then they can have a registration card and buy a gun safe. So a year and also a few thousand euros later they can buy - almost nothing. They need purchase pre-approval for about 100 euro and then buy and register within 14 days for the usual 30 euro. Same if a hunter wants a pistol, because pistols aren't legal for hunting, only to finish already wounded animals. And you cannot carry a gun. Never ever. Only in a locked gun case to the range, unloaded. Weapons carry licenses are exclusive to the police and the very top of anti gun politicians. More equal people.

[@Niklas9mm]

The weapon carry license does not apply to the police in Germany! When on duty, their right to carry a gun is backed by law and when off duty, they have a "compensatory document"

[@texasranger24]

@@Niklas9mm true, but just a technicality. For all practical intends and purposes, they carry gun. You do not. End of story. Or jailtime.

[@Kremit_the_Forg]

Regarding the pricing (because I am at the moment in tranining for the hunting license): That's a bit high. My course is 2500€. Everything included (ammo, range etc) except for the examfee (200€). And that is on the higher end, two other schools I looked into where 1800 and 2100. My safe came last week, it's a small one but I'm not made out of gold so I propably will never own more than 5 rifles (I think). Safe was 810€ shipped right to my livingroom. Insurance is included in the course, once you have the license you need one for yourself, my insurancecompany is 32€ a year. Add about 200 for a 3 year license from the state. The pool for the exam is in fact 2000+ questions BUT the exam is "only" 100 questions and you get 2,5 hours for the test. It is multiple choice but you have to have atleast 70% right to pass. It's alot one has to learn. But managable.

[@Zekenificent]

Man that sucks, I'm sorry that you guys have to go through so much 💩 in order to own a firearm.

[@IYKYK97]

Damn imagine living in a country where you can't defend yourself 😕

[@Frens03]

No to be surprised… HK sold their early pcc and rifles in light gray color because black was too scary

[@surfingtothestars]

Racist gun laws as per usual

[@vinceanderson4320]

I love the fact you guys are over there and showing us all this cool content. Much appreciated.

[@antazur3983]

Me : * laugh at germany's price of the MDR * * look up to the price here in France * 4000€ " fuck me "

[@CaptainComatose]

:D

[@thekraken1173]

At Least you can own it

[@Brimwald]

Reminds me of California's Assualt Weapons Ban laws. Bayonets bad, pistol grips bad, flash hiders bad...M1A good, Saiga AK good, Mini14 good. Makes no sense and has literally zero affect on crime.

[@decentrik]

Those laws are designed to make you injury yourself or give cops the upper hand. CA Attorney General admitted it in the mag ban court case.

[@Centermass762]

No logic whatsoever.

[@watchonjar]

they arent meant to they are meant to allow politicians to impress people who know nothing about firearms, its all security theatre

[@WaterZer0]

The laws are made to look like they're doing something and to make it more difficult for poorer people to have a weapon.

[@watchonjar]

@@WaterZer0 thats actually an important point, the intention is always very much to make sure poor people cant exercise their human right to self defence.

[@ChrisG1392]

Some countries allow silencers more than semi autos lol while some allow semi autos but not venting holes on the handguard. Politicians are so smart

[@ambivalentonion2620]

Uk bans semi autos but everyone has silencers, in italy semi autos are treated no different to a single shot, but silencers completely banned, it all makes no sense

[@TK-hw2ph]

Aaah, so Germany still does the whole “show me your papers” thing…hmmm

[@3of11]

Old habits die hard

[@psychzach1588]

It's so nice to see European stuff and learn about their gun culture and laws

[@Kremit_the_Forg]

Neat little funfact: Though even a single shot blackpowder flintlock is considered a firearmin Germany it is exempt from the carry-laws. Even funnier: The law is written like "a firearm ignited with spark or burning match, type made before year xyz". Nothing more. So it is technically absolutely legal to carry some flintlock pistols and equip your boat (or car) with blackpowder cannons. As long as you have direct control of them. (You still have to get a license for handeling explosives for the blackpowder ...)

[@psychzach1588]

@@Kremit_the_Forg lol

[@eberbacher007]

wish he would do a full video with a German Hunter and sport shooter (who isn´t as stressed/hectic as the guy in this video, when talking about his hunting licence) that goes into the detail

[@ambivalentonion2620]

@@Kremit_the_Forg France is better any pre 1900 pistol is allowed to be held and shot without license

[@svenbrenner3583]

Same is with ar15/10 , 16.75" barrel venting holes where you want, 8", 10" , 12" whatever no venting holes on the sides , ak47/74 with standard wood furniture illegal but magpul zhukow without venting holes is ok. Straight pull AK with wood ok, AK semi auto with wood for hunters available. HK semi G3 and clones as seen in the army ok for sport shooters , it's all about the look

[@onpsxmember]

That's what we got when politicians decide regulations based on the 'scary' action movies they watched. I'm glad we don't have the weird fin-grip BS like in California. The scariest apparently is the pump-action shotgun. EVIL shit. All sorts of police drama series is using them, throw in the racking sound file used by the worst guy. All the cowboy guns get a pass.

[@Scout4x]

Even with that man bun/pony tail thingy, Florenz is a pretty cool dude!

[@SpaetzleOperator]

thank you!

[@feraligatorade99]

Actually looks better than the original imo

[@sheepocalypse3898]

Nah, it looks like the "MDR we have at home".

[@antoniojamison2578]

I agree with you.

[@almostontimehero5415]

Dems fightin' words

[@watariovids1645]

That all sounds very silly. I do prefer the new look though. Shame that a country with some of the best firearms companies and designs all around has limit accessibility to them.

[@BadlanderOutsider]

Honestly I prefer that look to the regular one.

[@robertsears8323]

Same. I would love to see it out of carbon fiber.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

Makes me glad I live in the US, specifically Texas.

[@kerrick1010]

@james... Loved this video and a look into German sports/firearms laws. You guys should do a whole series on different countries, laws, and gun culture!

[@Resident-GunGuy]

Forgotten Weapons has some videos about gunlaws in different countries.

[@manganvbg90]

That venting bs even got me living in sweden standing on my head 😂

[@dropgun2574]

As a Canadian, I can definitely related to his pain regarding the lunacy of firearm laws in far left liberal countries

[@WaterZer0]

"far left liberal countries" "Canada" I see the American lunacy extends across the border. Your country literally kills natives for fun which is antithetical to one of "the left"'s biggest principles. You do have better public services than the US, but that's like saying you can outrun an obese person. Canada is center right, but you'll disregard everything I say and call me a loony instead of taking time to think about something.

[@dropgun2574]

@@WaterZer0 I suspect you are not Canadian, so your comments about Canada have zero value unless you live here, are indigenous as your comment is referencing Canadian indigenous peoples or you’re participating in our community. (Trolling on the internet doesn’t count.) As I am Canadian and indigenous, I’ll lend a helping hand, Even though what you said has nothing to do with my comment, is pedantic and how you reference our indigenous culture as “native” clearly illustrates your lack of education on Canadian cultures and indicates an attempt to troll for attention; regardless I’ll bite, but only once. Subsequently, I will not be reading your response no matter how outlandish, incorrect or over dramatized it is. As this has already been a waste of my time. Without jumping deep into the history of mistreatment of indigenous culture in Canada, as it would be a futile attempt at trying to determine what was the most egregious act against the indigenous peoples, I’ll refer to the most present and abundant example of LIBERAL mistreatment. The current prime minister and liberal party of Canada ran on the platform of creating safe drinking water for all indigenous peoples on tribal land across Canada. This is because most indigenous peoples still don’t have clean drinking water. I feel the need to dive into the history of government mistreatment is unnecessary based on your quick comments referencing the country “literally” killing indigenous peoples. (Which let’s be clear, is an egregiously over dramatization of whats occurring in Canada.) Canada is not centre to the right, as illustrated by its current prime minister and party. Left leaning liberals have done just as much damage and mistreated Canadian indigenous as the moderate “conservatives” (see residential schools, how long they were in place and what politicians were in power during their time) and your attempts to try to identify liberal politics as centre leaning right, simply illustrates to me an effort to try and normalize the very strongly left leaning politics and policies in Canada as “right” to change the perspective of political “norm’s.” Furthermore, you answering your own comment with what you perceive my response would be illustrates just how sociopathic you are and how futile the entirety of this conversation is. Regardless, I hope you learned something useful here. At the very least, that no one cares about your opinion on the internet, as comments like yours just illustrate how it’s a safe haven for societal outcasts who would have perished in times past for being weak, useless or just plainly put unlikeable. Take care.

[@bitbat9]

Far left liberal is a bit of a contradiction

[@keeman540]

"Our atf doesn't like the government either so they try to get us everything we want if they can" ... that is the exact opposite of our ATF

[@eberbacher007]

and sadly just not true, I think the guy is speaking a little bit too vaguely. sure the gouvernment agency that looks at stuff like grips and stuff, might be ok, but the authorities in the individual german states and cities can totally just say no to stuff they don´t seem necessary

[@keeman540]

@@eberbacher007 oh I know. It's an EU country for Christ's sake. I still thought it was worth quoting though.

[@chriscarnes87]

God it’s nauseating how stupid politicians are!

[@Romanus-]

They aren’t stupid, they do it to disarm citizens. It’s their worldwide dream to be able to control every aspect of your life and guns prevent them from doing that

[@gastone2168]

So, ventil holes are ok i regular rifles but not in bullpups?

[@texasranger24]

Vent holes are ok for guns with 16.6" (soon to be 16" like in the US) barrels and ammo cases longer than 40mm. Yes, that law exists to bully 7.62x39 and .22lr ammo. Because the German governments hates the idea of people using cheap ammo. But recently there are approved AKs as well where people put on mlok rail covers and glued them in place. Also glue your evil folding stock and you are fine. No joke.

[@CaptainComatose]

For sports shooting, if a semi-automatic firearm has a barrell length under 16", is a bullpup or uses a cartridge with a case length under 40mm, it is not allowed to look like a fully automatic weapon of war. For hunters this does not apply. Characteristics to qualify to look like a weapon of war might be pistol grips, telescopic stocks, "venting holes", forward grips, bipods. It's the overall look of the rifle. One characteristic alone might not disqualify it for sports shooting. A HK SP5 is not allowed for sports shooters, for example. Yet, the Norlite, also present here on TFB is allowed for sports shooting. This law is pretty stupid.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

@@texasranger24 it is already 40cm / 16".

[@almostontimehero5415]

God bless you Florence. You have to endure a lot of pain and work.

[@watchonjar]

i prefer this look actually, looks more like a halo gun. They should think about just making that available as well.

[@エッチなのはいけないと思います]

Some people just don't understand how deadly side mlock holes are.

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

But only in guns with barrels less than 16 inches. A longer than 16 inch barrel converts the MLOK side holes to holes of peace!

[@ChrisG1392]

You mean to tell me that HopFlopHeil didn't get to go to Germany to talk to his cousin Florens Hopf?

[@Vuntermonkey]

As a Californian, I appreciate this German.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

thank you!

[@cbroz7492]

When I was stationed in Gernany 50nyears ago (No 71 - Jul 74) there was a gun store in Wurzburg called 'Waffen Franconia unfortunately I never got there but hear that for its day it was as good as gunstores In the US...that was before the Bader Mei Hoff gang went in their terrorism spree...Ibtook the Gernan Hunting course 50 years ago through the post Rid and Gun club.. still have it (as well as the notes I took on paper that advertised 19 cent Rum and Coke nights...

[@Niklas9mm]

There are Franconia stores in many big cities nowadays. They are great stores with a large variety of products, but they are quit overpriced

[@texasranger24]

Pre 1972 gun ban / gun registrations you could buy guns from a catalog and have them shipped straight to your door. The mailman would check your id to see if you are 18+ and done. You could see all the small village kids ride their bicycles to the farmer that had set up a clay range on the weekend. Fun times. And then the international CBRN disarmament treaties were signed and all of the UN idiots were about to loose their job, unless they created the fake small arms narrative to do civilian disarmament as an expensive government campaign to this day.

[@eberbacher007]

back then stuff like 22s and all black powder stuff were still legal without license, you could basically go into a store, buy 20 of them and 10 000 rounds, 5 colt sixshooters and 10kg of black poweder and primes, pay with cash and leave without them knowing who you are, then the RAF happened and German gun laws went from Ok to terrible

[@thefrogstronaut]

And I thought NY SAFE Act was bad lol

[@Soravia]

Venting hole can be fixed if you put blocking plates under the Mlok.

[@Knuckle_Draggr]

I previously thought the stereotype of Germans not having a sense of humor couldn't possibly be true, but the more I watch your coverage of IWA 2022, the more I realize how absolutely true that stereotype is and this guy epitomizes it. "So I can just pull a buck up to the German ATF and [redacted] it in the face and be considered a hunter" "Actually no, you must get a license and go take a test as well as pass the test etc."

[@Paladin1873]

It looks cleaner and sleeker than the regular rifle. We need to get this version into the California stores ASAP.

[@johniron7269]

5:00 you interviewed kuma tacktical one of the few german guntubers

[@airplanenut89]

As a former license agent, I actually like that little hunting "passport" seems like that would be easier for someone to keep track of. I've dealt with a lot of people who lost their licenses, and had to get them replaced.

[@phillippearl647]

Interesting stuff. Poor Germans.

[@KirShizzle]

Lol the famously serious German demeanor. Totally missed James' sarcasm

[@SpaetzleOperator]

we are germans, we don´t sense humor.

[@ColonizerChan]

Damn I love seeing the euro arms market, I hope we can see this next year with Hop

[@nonyabiz9487]

Hey Florence was cool! Would be cool if he became the next John Browning of the future.

[@Barbaroossa]

Germany is a lot like California in terms of politics but ahead of the curve, and the curve itself leads to a precipice.

[@RaDeus87]

It's good that people who want to hunt has to go to study and pass tests, that way the hunt is clean and safe. My brother-in-law passed his test when he was 14.

[@AverageJoe4063]

I don't use the side slots on my handguard. I'd definitely be interested in an aluminum handguard if they made it.

[@johnsanko4136]

It looks like it comes out of a low-res 90's shooter. I kinda dig it.

[@MurderCube]

What's that suppressor at 5:36?

[@ratscoot]

With a hunting license you can buy and use the cool accessoires but if you have a semi auto rifle you may only use 2 round mags, 10 round for sport shooters.

[@dedieux9486]

not correct. as a hunter just WHILE huntig only allowed to have three rounds in a semi-auto rifle/shotgun (2 mag 1 chamber) - magazine can still be a 10 round mag. On the range for practise you can still have 10+1

[@eberbacher007]

@@dedieux9486 yeah but then you are always one load away from losing everything if caught ;)

[@dedieux9486]

@@eberbacher007 maybe. But the comment itself regarding to two round mags was not correct

[@alphamale4497]

Always loved the mdr

[@davidgraflex2065]

I actually like the look of it with out the m lock

[@sealove79able]

A neat video Mr.James keep them coming.At first I thought it was a bolt action bullpup rifle. Why should one get this in Germany instead of the HK,Heinel,or Mauser for 4k? Here the SW Governor is almost 2k. The pricing made me run to the WC and lose my pants.

[@wayneorellana2549]

I thought Australian firearms laws were crazy and emotion based....

[@ambivalentonion2620]

Australia is still the worst

[@johniron7269]

@@ambivalentonion2620 it is generally easyer to get bolt/leaver action rifels or double barreld shotguns in ozzy in germany it is kinda hard to get the licence but once you got it you can basically have everything non automatic

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

@@johniron7269 The hunting licence only works for rifles and shotguns though. It's not really useful for handguns because you only get to buy two handguns on the hunting licence. You need a sports shooting licence for those, but it's way easier and cheaper to get. And if you're in the right shooting sports association, you can get a lot of stuff too, with some restrictions like barrel length in semi-auto rifles and no silencers.

[@johniron7269]

@@maximilianmustermann5763 ja aber zwei pistolen reichen doch fürs erste

[@med_preventiva]

What a bunch of nonsense laws...

[@SpaetzleOperator]

we are fighting that laws, but is a pain in the butt...

[@phillee6373]

That's a normal requirement for Hunting and Fishing in Germany, it was when I was there in 1993

[@onpsxmember]

Filling the venting holes + bureaucracy takes what...3 years? Holy Batman bawls. I'm glad that's an option now. If nothing happens in the process it should be through in 3 months. The price is crazy high...can't you throw in that handguard with the integrated bipod or the guarantee on the group size. Do an OD-Green run please.

[@kuttermcneil1520]

I can't even afford one here. Why is the price so damn high?

[@Schregger]

"Only about the look, nothing about the function..." **heavy ass sigh** Aint that the truth...

[@pledgegamer]

I would prefer this to how it is in NY. I can’t have it in America….NYunSAFE act is BS.

[@daveknowles3055]

Might be slightly worse than Canada but we are catching up.

[@gunsandcommissions]

This man loves and gets the 2A

[@EROCK1966]

That's a very cool looking gun I like how streamline it is oh yeah and James you don't shoot deer in the face dude I'm sure you know that but I think your are a look how pretty your eyes are they're so graceful kinda person. yeah they do and are but you know what else they do THEY TASTE GREAT!!! .

[@kennethbaze6627]

so if it looks like a war weapon your not allowed to use in competition shooting but it can be fully automatic

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

No, full-auto is completely out of the question. They were just joking around calling the venting holes "full-auto venting holes". Because these holes obviously don't do anything, it's just cosmetics to make the rifle look less like a "weapon of war" when the barrel is below 16".

[@azisandwich]

G11 when

[@THEKOOLiDMAN]

NEVER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@angelikat655]

I hope it work's better then the last :-)

[@PHIllip324]

Joke's on the German government, now I want an MDR even more because it looks even more cyberpunk as fuck.

[@onpsxmember]

For 4k €? That's mid tier DD money and those are imported. An AUG is 2.5k-2.8k€. Now let's wait for the VHS-2 in price. Maybe 3k€. Btw...DT, if you listen, please do variable height cheek riser pieces that can be attached and pads for different lop on the back. Also, Germans need OD-Green. It's the law.^^

[@col.strayga1389]

Papers please!

[@surfingtothestars]

Since MDRs are expensive af there, I’m guessing HKs are cheaper than the US market

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

Not really. The prizes are just not as crazy as the US imports, but they're still expensive. The German gun market is rather tiny and people will buy everything they can get. Manufacturers don't really need to care about competitive pricing that much.

[@T.K.F.]

Idk if that jacket maded you look cooler or the other way around

[@XDWX]

I think it looks pretty sleek.

[@CrazyDog651]

A thing to mention as well in Germany hunters can only have 2 round magazines.

[@Barbaroossa]

What? WHAT? Dude, don't toy with my feelings like that. Is this both for semi-auto rifles and semi-auto shotguns? If that's the case I'd rather much more getting a Browning Maral and slapping a 10 round magazine on it. Now don't tell me that they limit magazines on bolt-action guns to 3 rounds as well.

[@doejohn8674]

Only on a hunt with a semi-auto rifle, on a shooting range they can shoot with larger mags, but thanks to EU "larger mags" means now 10 rounds for rifles and 20 rounds for handguns/pistols

[@IronSky-ev6qm]

As already said above by Doe John, 10 Round magazins are ok, but in most areas semi autos when hunting only 3 rounds loaded, in Baden Würthemberg its 5

[@eberbacher007]

@@Barbaroossa Friend is a hunter. older guns with internal magazines, are still legal, but if a hunter is caught on the hunter with more than 2 rounds in the magazine, it is treated as severe as poaching or owning a gun for which he has no licence newer guns with external magazines, only 2 round magazines allowed while hunting. (on the range 5 round mags are allowed)

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

@@eberbacher007 If there's only 5 round mags allowed at the range, then that's a stupid range rule. You're allowed to own and use 10-round magazines for center-fire semi-auto rifles at the range, period. That's the law. Some ranges and clubs always have to be holier than thou and have their own rules and try to tell you it's the law or something. Avoid those ranges.

[@Jeremysmith747]

Best line ever: " just shoot it in the face" lol great video

[@NinjaEnShort]

And imagine being in Cucknada where the MDR is prohibited for god knows reason...

[@antoniojamison2578]

It still looks good 👍

[@raysiris]

...so what HK excuse for not selling the g36 to civilians?

[@Jasonz1919]

Actually looks cool

[@CHMichael]

By the time they let you have a gun they know you are squeaky clean. Hunting license runs you extra 10k. Half of my family over there have one. Don't know if you still need a dog with training.

[@scruffysstash]

Always enjoy hearing about the wierd laws around the world. It seems politicians world round have a few things in common...

[@Jay-mv7xv]

Great! Shame that we (US) can't get some if the firearms they can get in the in Europe.

[@KN-cool]

Nice keltec 🤣🤣

[@killerrabbit5255]

looks better.

[@hopewilliams6705]

Wow that's nice

[@davidduke3417]

I love how German government punished its own citizens after what government did years ago. Lol

[@actually_a_circle]

A German ATF sounds extra scarry

[@blacktuesday7427]

Very sleek

[@mabs9503]

It actually looks p cool.

[@alexs1972]

Wait... Their ATF hates the government? Omg what I wouldn't give....

[@eberbacher007]

not true, he is only talking about the technical side with getting part X okayed for production. Indiviudal states, counties and cities, who are the ones who then have to allow you to use that front grip will be the ones that usually say no "you don´t need that"

[@Gooutsideforonce]

The German ATF doesn’t like the government either? Based.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

they are cool guys. Allways oppose stricter gun laws.

[@Gooutsideforonce]

@@SpaetzleOperator bro, love the name

[@SpaetzleOperator]

@@Gooutsideforonce thanks. You got the pun?

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

Ah yes, because a 556 from a mdr will be way deadlier than a 300 win mag model 70.

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

as much as I hate gun control I will say that I like the monolithic look of this MDR better than the American version

[@Generalfoley]

>TFW The German ATF helps you out more than the American ATF

[@ToddVoght]

Not sure if living in Germany or my home state of California is worse.....🤔

[@mattycakes1161]

Yeah, because the terrorists will go to the trouble of asking permission. These laws only hinder good people, not the bad ones.

[@صالحصبح-ن1غ]

gun nice

[@johnnymossville]

This encapsulates the insanity of govt in a 5 minute video.

[@jessielevasseur6713]

You gotta bite the head off a bunny at the atf office.

[@donbarile8916]

If only the world were more enthusiastic about licensing politicians......

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

Honestly I don’t think the fact that this stuff requires a bunch of paperwork is as obnoxious to Germans as it is to us. They seem to be pretty adept at that stuff.

[@brittakriep2938]

I am german, and Brittas boyfriend. Before 1972 westgerman gunlaw was basicly a denazified version of Reichswaffengesetz from 1938. It was in no ways AS liberal as US law, but much more liberal than now. The most liberal time of gun/ weapons law was in time between 1871- 1918, monarchy. So Wilhelm ll was not so afraid about weapons than ,democratic' politicans.

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

@@brittakriep2938 very interesting information. Thank you!

[@brittakriep2938]

@@thedumbguncollector5546 : In second german empire german gun and weapons law had similarities to US laws, there had been few imperial laws, most details had been regulated by the german states. Rifles, shotguns and combination guns ( for example Drillinge) could be easy bought, for the reason that german army had good repouation, owning and training with long arms had been seen good for war effort. Pistols could not so easy bought, but for a well reputated man this was no problem. What was not allowed, had been weapons like swordcanes, disguised as peacefull item. In 1890 a Ccw licence was introduced, because most of german policemen had only a short saber.

[@alijankhan3330]

Ja ja das ist gut

[@Im_TheSaint]

Poor people. I'm not sorry for them, I am describing them. Who, right in their head, and not poor in spirit, allows their goverment to do this. This wasnt love of beraucracy that we just saw, nor was it german eficiency, or orderliness. This was poverty.

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

It was the United States and the allies who completely banned all civilian firearms in Germany up until the 1960ies and put a big dent in long tradition of shooting clubs and civilian firearm ownership. It's your system that we're technically still under (or what's the point of you military bases in Germany?) so FU

[@carlpaladino427]

Biden would love it. Guess the deer do wear Kevlar vests in Germany.

[@johancahyadi6905]

I came to think that some government regulations (of several countries) teach the people to deceive themselves

[@GrimReaper_Ossi]

Yeah, our crazy laws xD

[@SA-xf1eb]

Wow. Idk what to say.

[@santashooter41]

A Sad and Depressed Hello from Germany Guys 🙃 But i hope and even pray that this kinda concept will get throuhg government exam I GOD DAMN WANT THIS FUCKING GUN!!!