The Ongoing Furry CULT of GaroShadowscale

GaroShadowScale, a furry Vtuber who took an opportunity to use his fanbase in some very interesting ways. Creating what has been dubbed a "cult" on the social media app Discord, a term which indeed shares many connotations. In this video we investigates what the discord is really about whilst also exploring other avenues of Garo's plaform, such as his patreon, questionable videos and his response to the drama.
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Chapters:
INTRODUCTION: 0:00
DISCORD RULES: 1:05
TEMPER TANTRUM (texts to mod): 5:40
MORE OUTBURSTS: 8:44
PATREON PRICES: 11:11
PATREON REWARDS: 13:23
GARO RESPONSE: 15:56
S&XBA1TING: 18:35
bye bye!: 20:08
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#commentary #cringe #drama #furry

[@Clappedseal]

Hey everyone, this video is quite old and lacks the presentation I'd have today (largely in regards to how I would present the ideas.) There are certainly moments of interesting conversation. However, there are equally moments that either weren't presented well or don't amount to much. I would encourage deeply thinking about each point and not viewing any situation as a black/white good or bad act Thank you, hope there's something for you to enjoy

[@ZeroChance21156]

*A year later*

[@TheGuyWhoComments]

Anything specifically?

[@derekbrawl8001]

@Clappedseal if he ever makes a video about you copyright strike him lol

[@TheGuyWhoComments]

@@derekbrawl8001 who?

[@Spore_z]

(don't leave me out guys pwease 👉👈)🪦garo

[@shushshush7137]

If only his oc looked unique enough to justify said ego trip. Dude looks like a unity store generic dragon.

[@realfridge]

😂😂😂

[@winterfuze]

im a be honest that color scheme looks like he copied it off the book wings of fire

[@sivanhedoesstuff]

it looks like a background character in a kids' fantasy cartoon

[@astrainspace]

@@winterfuze it looks copied from the character turtle especially

[@nitrolight1778]

It would be vaguely redeemable if he was even slightly good-looking irl, but he's ugly both inside and out.

[@kam8754]

At least cult leaders let you talk to other people in the cult💀

[@jsdnsnfnscbwn]

@@bittersweetpepper2482 what do u mean blue goat hes a dragon

[@dragonlootz]

@@bittersweetpepper2482 may i ask what cult youre in, i swear im good at keeping secrets

[@alphamale4528]

@@dragonlootz im a crip

[@nyxiedoopie]

​@@bittersweetpepper2482 you can't be mean to ppl like that, just correct them

[@alekthecool123]

Not elan

[@Ignomixed]

What is this North Korea ah Server. Edit: My mistake, This server is more strict than North Korea, Garo really wanna make Kim Jong Un jealous. Edit 2: Not jealous, Fear, and feel sympathy for those inside this server.

[@danielturbo7494]

Nah, even North Korea is not as strict as this server(at least they allow to talk to other residents)

[@furrycloaker_uwu]

Kim let kid make friends

[@PUROthePURE]

I would argue that garo isn't that bad, but this was a year ago so hopefully hes not that bad

[@Zonary306]

@@PUROthePUREhe is narcissistic tho

[@PUROthePURE]

@@Zonary306 i mean i only watched a few of his videos as tutorials for um... Certain games

[@MagicAnimalStudio]

Be aware Garo made a comeback on YT Shorts with Undertale Yellow analysis

[@RandomDude1487]

And that’s why I even know who he is. Legend says I now hate him.

[@French_Fries9]

I didn’t even realize he was the cult guy while watching his undertale yellow shorts

[@slorms7838]

Honestly i hated him because he puts the biggest fucking spoilers in his shorts but this makes me hate him even more

[@MagicAnimalStudio]

@slorms7838 same, I actually wanted to play Undertale Yellow but nope "DID YOU KNOW (literally the biggest spoiler known to man with no warning)"

[@RandomDude1487]

@@slorms7838 i watched his Undertale Yellow YT shorts because at the time I didn’t have any way to play it since I use a Mac (I later installed a Windows emulator)

[@vasaradragonsbane5580]

The fact he surrounds himself and targets minors should be a huge red flag.

[@YUN6_V3NUZ]

he probably targets minors because theyre easy to influence. but its definitely concerning, considering he literally looks like the kind of guy to...eugh.

[@pinkflametheepic]

Hes also playing fetish games, if you are trying to appeal to children maybe dont play fetish games on stream. Just a thought

[@KiiXii]

He literally uploads the most pornographic parts of changed as shorts, y’know, if somebody goes out of their way to make sure children see porn, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, They’re a child predator.

[@eyes0956]

@@KiiXii I can't see any hate comment about GaroShadowScale on one of his videos, did he brainwash them?

[@KiiXii]

@@eyes0956 he removes sensitive comments, he’s basically a man child.

[@SproutedGrain]

Garo: Make sure to be friendly and humble! Also garo: *emotionally abusing a mod because they said two sentences to a another wIgGlY*

[@xxsuperproductionsxx138]

yeah...

[@io5380]

​@@xxsuperproductionsxx138 OMGOMGOMGOMG ME IS WIGGLY GOO GOO GAA GAA I LIKE BEING MANIPULATED *DEMON DEATH SCREECH*

[@sillygtwoah]

*almost everyone here has thick text*

[@thatonememe_guy]

Whats going on,on your pfp,bro?☠

[@SproutedGrain]

@@thatonememe_guy Im a furry

[@CABLEG0RE]

4:38 no way he has a "no fetish" rule when he posts hundreds of youtube shorts specifically about a fetish game or vore Minecraft roleplays.

[@humanhuman7280]

99% of furry videos are fetish games and vore im losing faith in humanity

[@user-xq8qs7iv7v]

@@humanhuman7280 how did you just describe changed in 3 words

[@imsad3923]

​@@user-xq8qs7iv7vwhich 3 words

[@dizzy_jump]

@@user-xq8qs7iv7vthat was not 3 words

[@notjebbutstillakerbal]

​@@user-xq8qs7iv7v that was 14/15 words

[@Horacecelversace]

Man i didnt know north korea had a discord server

[@evilyeucc]

I didn’t know kim had a fursona

[@Horacecelversace]

@@evilyeucc he does now

[@TheArtzyAnimalTV]

At least North Korea lets you talk to other citizens (not about much but at least they still let you talk to other people)

[@Horacecelversace]

@@TheArtzyAnimalTV thats true

[@NCR_vet_ranger2347]

Little did we know garo is actually kim

[@discountdisco2273]

The fact that you're greeted with "Dont talk to other discord members!" is the biggest red flag a content creator can make

[@ducks9678]

100% that would’ve put me off immediately

[@Nagito-Komaeda942]

ehehe... i would do it.. considering that i dont deserve any friend.. im such trash im i right.. eheheh...

[@Dusty_TheProtoFloof]

​@@Nagito-Komaeda942NU!! YOU DESERVE ALL THE HUGS!!

[@BuneaCatalin]

Man im dead

[@itsrickyschannel.]

@@Nagito-Komaeda942 I agree with Dusty. You deserve all the friends - And all the hugs!

[@thegamerator10]

"You're not allowed to friend other people in the server." THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A SERVER.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

Not really. Have you seen the SCP wiki site? Geez, those mods need to lighten the f**k up and stop treating childish internet creepypasta like its a banking business.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

@@abloogywoogywoo Do they? I don't know much about 'em.

[@agmass]

@@abloogywoogywoo never interacted with the SCP wiki but just by the general vibe i get around SCP i expected that

[@presidentgamingz]

@@abloogywoogywoo I wouldn't really go against that. It's supposed to be a serious company in the story after all. Unless it's about talking in forums.

[@person4636]

I feel like all of this would KIND of be okay if the dude has like some mental disorders (I have a couple and i act SORT of like this but I don’t gatekeep my friends entirely not to talk to others) but.. dawgg you know what im gonna say 🗿

[@lefty8925]

This man ran through his hug dialogue like it was the end of a pill commercial.

[@Sikreb]

side effects might cause homelessness

[@LokiToxtrocity]

11:24 Im pretty sure that art piece he used for his patreon has a NSFW version, no way something that suggestive is on SFW.

[@G_G_was_taken]

12:20 and 12:55 I feel bad for the kids who see these

[@Helluva_Boss_Blitz]

Fr

[@atomwolf6774]

"my dad died" garo: im sorry... but remember to only focus on me because i am the most important thing in the universe

[@sirlambchops.]

“You’re causing me stress by focusing on your dead dad instead of me”

[@sunny15300]

Bold of you to assume they even had a dad to begin with lmao

[@MyUsernameIsGoofy]

Well if you give him money he will let you send TWO WHOLE MESSAGES!

[@Magno_Money]

@@sunny15300 All the cool people didn't have dads, look at 2Pac and 50 Cent

[@cheesysamich]

"Stop bringing the focus to you. you are just trying to get free subs."

[@ferro9926]

-greedy -pride bigger than the light of the sun This is just a dragon pretending to be a man pretending to be an unremarkable dragon, the horde is 'adoring' fans

[@eagletgriff]

I would say 'brainwashed' but hes pretty upfront here lol

[@maikeru6158]

Dollar store Smaug lmao

[@kamewantor4594]

Ngl that would be better than how actually it is

[@joseordaz655]

How does this *insert bad word* make a furry cringe so gawd damn hard dude.

[@MrRobinsonRamily]

honestly this gave me an idea for a D&D villian, A dragon being a cult leader sounds fun. sadly i dont know how to GM so i will just write this down in my idea text file

[@CraftyTheFungus]

Man, this guy used to make undertale content, that I liked, and was just watching the shorts every once in a while. I’m never watching this guy again.

[@Prismitten.]

Yikes!

[@Salithin]

His fursona being a dragon is so fucking ironic

[@sam_the_yeen]

And not even a good design, it's generic AF and doesnt look all that good

[@arcticanal]

it just makes sense lmao

[@Currentlycackling]

I'm not a furry but I support them and understand them (I mean it's literally just a damn cosplay) but wtf is with this guy, it's not cool

[@sam_the_yeen]

@@Currentlycackling Yeah people like him make us furries look like shit :/

[@slummyed]

@@sam_the_yeenI’m a keep it 100% I don’t like furries the concept I just don’t get it but you did kinda open up my mind a little bit realizing this is just one guy and not the whole community so my bad on that 😅

[@BONERCRUSHER]

If I had a nickel for everytime a VR chat furry ended up being a freak I would have 2 nickels. I know there will be more nickels in the future and i am afraid

[@annabellez8397]

who was the other?

[@BONERCRUSHER]

@@annabellez8397 I dont remember her name exactly but she did "hypnosis" videos and such and posted a video about "coming out" as a zoophile.

[@gradeatrash5331]

@@annabellez8397 I’m guessing HyponotistZappho, I would argue she’s worse due to things she did being actually illegal and advocating for that thing to be legal. Research at your own discretion because it involves actual animals in case you’re sensitive to that

[@BONERCRUSHER]

@@gradeatrash5331 It includes animals and grooming minors if I'm remembering correctly

[@dj-protoOfficial]

Most furries/scalies who play VrChat all the time are usually ret**ded I've been in this fandom for years, and the worst of the worst I always find are from VRChat.

[@brokenvideotape40]

A rank is called "gasm" and his audience is a ton of kids.. Whattt..

[@ulforcemegamon3094]

@@ihatehandleupdate there is something called stealing your parents credit card , there are countless amount of kids that stole their parents credit cards and bought something expensive like tons of V-bucks or a PS5

[@SunderZyzie]

​@@ihatehandleupdate i remember stealing R$50 (10$) from my parents and buying 270 sweets.

[@brokenvideotape40]

@@ihatehandleupdate I didn't say they can buy it, I said they cane SEE it. Idk what your problem is 000

[@Plingey]

@@SunderZyzie Wow... that is simply..................... a lot of sweets

[@SunderZyzie]

@@Plingey I had to go to 3 different stores

[@adjacent_dollar]

"My father died" “I dont care please keep the conversation about me or you're going to be banned forever” "Assho- *_*Banned*_*

[@ClodsireBcuzYes]

yeah i get recommended his shorts so i eventually got recommended one of his undertale streams (i watch a few people play undertale) it was all just people spamming emotes and donations to a default unity dragon as far as i could tell. edit: i completely understand something like "if you wanna have a full blown conversation one-on-one between someone in the server, please try to keep that in a dm" "dont bring up topics that are completely unrelated" "dont drown out someone elses messages, even by accident" "try to keep the focus on my content/game i play" things like that, but to not allow messages about other creators, and barely allow people to even talk to other people in general is insane

[@LostProxyNevermore]

What makes this situation even worse is if Garo’s fanbase is pretty much all kids, there’s NO WAY kids have THAT kind of money for those Patreon tiers, so they’ve either: A) SOMEHOW convinced their parents to let them get a subscription, which I VERY highly doubt B) Kids are stealing their parents cards

[@MarshpoolOneAndOnly]

"Mom mom I need money so I can virtually hug some random narcissistic man please please its only 500$ a month mom"

[@person4636]

Good Ending: Garo makes an actual apology video for what he did, gets rid of the rules that are dumb, stops the bad stuff he is doing, and removes the expensive tiers and takes the money from them and donates to charity 🗿

[@Someperson12532]

@@person4636How to achieve good ending, what Garo would say: Step 1: Grab a blanket Step 2: Grab a pillow Step 3: Put in the bed Step 4: Keep dreaming What he should (but physically can't because he's so toxic) do: Step 1: STOP BEING A NARCISSIST-

[@tfordham13]

Or adults use it

[@kimplo__]

@@person4636 this would make for an S tier fiction novel my guy!

[@lilacocto9103]

I can't believe how selfish and egotistical this guy is, outright preventing his "Wigglies" from befriending each other and organizing activities unless it involved him, and banning anyone who had a significant social presence? It's like he's TRYING to make himself as unbearable as possible

[@Gore-Labs]

Serously, this is the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen. His fursona isn’t even unique, I’ve seen foxes more unique than him.

[@lilacocto9103]

@@Gore-Labs Exactly, he's just a turquoise colored dragon! I mean come on at least make an attempt to have a unique character design

[@ironpulcinella3586]

Because he's not a true furry, he just sees profit passing off as one.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Well yeah its a cult, not the lunch table on Friday morning.

[@SunderZyzie]

​@@Gore-Labs my grandma's cookies have more personality than his oc

[@yosherio]

13:50 top ten rappers eminem was too afraid to diss

[@MinosPrimeLustLayer]

haven’t seen this part yet but I assume that this is a part of his patreon thing where he’s listing the “rewards”

[@MinosPrimeLustLayer]

Specifically him saying the words

[@MinosPrimeLustLayer]

I KNEW IT

[@meowsicalesdarkshadow5825]

@@MinosPrimeLustLayernice

[@teenybun5249]

1:40 Isolation is a tactic used by cults, it was especially present in jamestown and it's weird to see it on full display in a discord server

[@GabrielPerez-br5mm]

But atleast in isolation the cult members could still talk among each other, the point of isolation was from the outside world, not from any other human, including other cultists

[@leviantler8702]

Guys, look! It’s the Onision of the furry fandom!

[@MicroDogland]

Onision didnt even ban his fans talking to each other O--O

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

More Kermit Sudoku Vibes

[@Frick8375]

LMAOOO

[@tomthestone1470]

@@MicroDogland WHY HAVE YOU PUT A POINT ON ONIONS FAVOUR!?

[@hawhawhaw3123]

LMFAO, holy shit you killed him

[@polterboo3515]

The fact that even Jahova's Witnesses are less controlling of their members than this guy really shows how absolutely insane this entire thing is

[@justaserperiorfan.9242]

What’s jahova witness?

[@Teutonic.Knight]

@@justaserperiorfan.9242 "A Christian Religious group who preach to people by knocking on doors. Yes they might be annoying, but they believe they are helping people, so give them a break. If you ask them not to call ever again they wont, thats all it takes. I know some and they are lovely people, and the horrible things people say about them hurt, needlessly." - Urban Dictionary

[@justaserperiorfan.9242]

@@Teutonic.Knight oh ok

[@bunny8962]

⁠@@justaserperiorfan.9242It’s a form in Christianity known as a Nontrinitarianism that rejects the mainstream belief Christian doctrine of trinity, the belief God exists as three distinct Persons - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is from the top of my head some of the info might be incorrect but i don’t think so it sounds right

[@gortalla5474]

@@Teutonic.Knight I can't really respect them, considering they harm members within their religion so often

[@ev1lpasta357]

The fact he’s focusing content around children, and he has a “gasm” tier. Bruh giving major predator vibes

[@Dani-Claw]

I was gonna say how pathetic it is to pay to have friends, except in this case, HE is asking people to pay HIM to be internet friends! So bizarre for a doofy, rude scaly to have such a giant ego.

[@teehee781]

Narcissism is deadly

[@kinetic_krown]

Garo is going to make it his mission to eradicate social interaction once he realizes that over 99.9% of conversations aren't about him.

[@Svetlec]

We must never give him **_FREEDOM!_** since he might use the guns he gets

[@juliamavroidi8601]

Rule Nr 8: When ever Garo is not present, the other Wigglues should ask "Where's Garo"

[@alanxu3936]

@@Svetlec Owning a gun and being able to effectively use it are two different things. I wouldn't be worried if I were you.

[@beaning4298]

over 99.999999%

[@rillwyacandelario7449]

Literally more than 8 BILLION people yet he wants all eyes on him. Pathetic.

[@fr3akvankuchen825]

the feckin jehovas witnesses are more lenient with their rules jesus christ

[@Banana-Boi]

Even north korea is more lenient.

[@SunderZyzie]

I know a Jehova Witness, he's definetely more lenient than that guy, North Korea is more lenient than that basic ahh turquose background dragon

[@Mroziukz]

"jesus christ" ironic.

[@RaethFennec]

Having known someone on the inside of that, this guy is trying to enforce MORE on his community than the kind of punishment and control JW's do only for their 'excommunicated' or former members who have been kicked out.

[@Jett-.]

North Korea explained in 20 minutes

[@itspurplepaw6163]

its inevitable that at one point his fans see how he is really like and will begin leaving

[@Dooperbooperlooper]

It’s crazy that anyone can tolerate only talking to one person all day with no other interaction

[@chloesibilla8199]

Well they are kids though. Maybe they will move on to a more interesting KZbinr dragon with a cooler oc design.

[@theglitch1011]

I was a fan of him that is WAS until I saw these things about his discord server

[@flanflan88]

There are always more kids to take the place of those who've grown up enough to realize what's up, unfortunately.

[@HunterTheDiseaseRat]

@@theglitch1011 same thing here

[@zuruaeclipse]

Honestly people like this give furries a bad name, a lot of them just want to cosplay or draw their anthropomorphic OCs, and while Garo isn't the worst example by a long shot but even then Garo doesn't help with others opinions on furries

[@MieheKnoi]

No they have a bad name bcs most of them want to f**k animals

[@christhe2dprotogen511]

Hell yeah bro!

[@Karmy.]

Agreed

[@Finnishnat-conservativedot7126]

How can you give a bad name to furries when majority of fandom is like that? Wouldn't it be better to disassociate from that term if you don't want the "bad name"?

[@christhe2dprotogen511]

@@Finnishnat-conservativedot7126 I’ve been in the fandom for about 2 years now, most of the furries I’ve meet aren’t like Garo, they’re just normal people wearing a costume

[@umbrivella]

3:20 aint no way he's gonna be doing all this and look like THAT.

[@ilikeplanes3568]

14:00 i was half expecting him to start reading him his rights like a cop does when you are getting arrested

[@thecassette_tape]

imagine his family being with garo during a funeral *family is mourning* 'im sorry grandma, ANYWAY DEAR FAMILY MEMBERS PLEASE GIVE ME MORE ATTENTION AND FOC-'

[@justaserperiorfan.9242]

He has none

[@thecassette_tape]

@@justaserperiorfan.9242 amen

[@kristen8481]

After that day he got shot

[@BudDinktrap]

I bet he just couldn't wait to get his grubby hands on that inheritance money

[@minecraftgabutyt7734]

@@justaserperiorfan.9242i hope so, if this guy turned out having family member i don’t how chaotic would be

[@poobydoo3593]

16:52 So right with the lying about the age thing. When I was a kid I’d make my age in the 40’s bc I just knew a big number meant no restrictions. Only time I didn’t lie about it was on club penguin lol

[@Jack5628]

understandable ngtl

[@standard-carrier-wo-chan]

For real, tho! It wasn't hard or long for 10 y/o me to eventually figure out that any age above 21 means I can bypass age restrictions. The one time I didn't lie was in my very, VERY early months on the internet, when all I knew was Facebook and Ameba Pico.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Well that's not how coitizing someone works. Sometimes you must abandon basic logic to push your ideas further.

[@SunderZyzie]

I remember setting my YT account's age to 98 because it seemed funny.

[@negativefg7922]

@@SunderZyzie I don't remember where but I've set my birthday date somewhere in 1500's and it seemed really funny that I can do that for some reason.

[@Terrareich]

Alright, Let me give you some tips on how to NOT get caught doing any of the things garo randomly hates in this video. If you own a small youtube prescense like I do, D O N O T Link any of it with the server, Even name or bio is a hazard and can get you caught. Profile pictures are in this too. If you are messaging, keep it in a entirely different server with little to no ties to garos, This will keep him from finding out. If you go online, keep it for atleast an hour then go back offline, you will stay more anonymous this way and make it harder for Garo To find out what you are doing. He thinks the world revolves around him, So avoid supporting him when you can in other servers, this will help drain his prescense, Seeing as he doesnt care about Peoples realitives deaths and only cares about hie own prescense, I just reccomend, DONT JOIN HIS DAMN SERVER.

[@france_losted_togermany]

Looks like a guide to North Korea 😭😭

[@bananakittycat5477]

anyone gonna take notice to the name of his 500$ patron role? aren’t his viewers kids? wtf

[@Ian_randomwordsforthehandle]

Fr tho😭😭

[@mindlessky545]

Honestly calling his fandom a cult or something along those lines is an insult to cults around the world 💀💀💀

[@chip4039]

I mean. You have a point.

[@gasmaskman1354]

As a cultists from far cay 5 yes that is a insult to us

[@mdperson988]

@@gasmaskman1354 dear god, he's part of eden's gate

[@godzillagamer7512]

even the KKK looks better in comparison. (not really)

[@flax72l.a13]

¿¡What do you mean about that crap you're talking about, mindlessky!?

[@thatliquidthing1903]

“Wigglies” sound like little cartoon worms that crawl in your brain and sing a little “wee-woo” song that slowly drives you to insanity

[@ChaoticRaptor336]

r/oddlyspecific

[@wolfo2385]

adventure time worms

[@wantedbird55srandomchannel28]

Wondertiffical.

[@user-xq8qs7iv7v]

it reminds me of the worm you get to play as in plague inc

[@familiamarquez3219]

​@@user-xq8qs7iv7v the neurax worm?

[@Ironaparrot]

i remember one time i joined this dudes server cause i wanted the emojis, i ended up chatting the dude up like twice, and the second time it was me saying "hey, im gonna try streaming", and i immediately get kicked from the server with the excuse of something like "i dont want other streamers in the server". isnt that one of the biggest things you shouldnt do as a content creator and streamer?

[@yule8740]

If you ever pass him in subscribers you should defently find a way back into the server and say "Remeber me" Garo really needs to get taken down a notch on that ego it's higher then the sky and space

[@DefamedgamerYT]

Thank you for turning down that first part.. My head phones were at max 💀💀

[@Pluto2043]

I was a spy in his server and all I can say is that the server is a dictatorship and a cult and idk what seems worse

[@Twiggo_The_Foxxo]

Was it like Nazi Germany or the Soviet union under Stalin's rule

[@SkyBrigidRain]

Thank you for your service! Garo is NOT the definition of the anthro fandom!!!

[@Pluto2043]

@@Twiggo_The_Foxxo yea I would say both but it’s more into the Soviet Union with Stalin and a tiny bit of 1940s Germany

[@jsdnsnfnscbwn]

Somewhat reminds me of North Korea

[@vehicleunhandler]

I am gonna tell you to raid the server out of the orbit.

[@yote333]

Won’t be surprised when allegations start coming out about this guy grooming or harming children in some other way. Everything about this is scary and makes me incredibly sad for the kids falling victim to it.

[@mysteryman4915]

Whats more disturbing is that there hasn’t been anything yet…

[@lefty8925]

I imagine this is part of why he doesn't want them communicating with each other. It minimizes the chances of his creepy illicit shit getting out.

[@tfordham13]

​@@mysteryman4915 thats not disturbing

[@france_losted_togermany]

Yeah, extreme isolation between members seems a little too odd

[@Gibblethe6th]

Every youtuber drama at some point will involve discord change my mind

[@ihavenothingbettertodotoday]

a furry cult where you cant have a fursona is crazy

[@Tism_Fox]

Looking at Garo's face, he looks like the type of guy to do this. Man looks like he never left his mom's basement.

[@dragonghast5856]

Looks like his mom forgot him in the basement and he made a place for himself in there feeding off rats and his own ego

[@jacksylander]

He look like Minecraft steve

[@mdperson988]

@@jacksylander that's an insult to steve don't say that

[@AntiFurTeen]

BLUD BE EATING BIGMAC FOR BREAKFEST, LUNCH AND DINNER🗣💀💀💀💀💀

[@radustana]

​@@AntiFurTeen he singlehandedly caused food prices to go up(because the less of something there is the more expensive it is)

[@5h4d0w5l1f3]

Imagine growing up afraid to express anything about yourself because some discord freak told you it was selfish :/

[@somerandomguy335]

North Korea but online

[@FredBear12]

Furry edition

[@YoRHa_Unit_9S-]

​@@FredBear12 is that even relevant? literally nothing about this video is about furries being bad

[@FredBear12]

@@YoRHa_Unit_9S- bro I wasn’t even offending them I was just saying 💀

[@YoRHa_Unit_9S-]

@@FredBear12 oh ok my bad 90% of the time it's said in a negative light

[@Balloonmanx2745]

Also his reward logos are disgusting for a fanbase of minors

[@Pp-tl5tf]

At first I thought maybe the “don’t speak to other wigglies” rule was a safety thing because of the younger audience but it just kept getting worse and worse

[@ponponz4436]

I remember joining his server for about a day or two to see what all the buzz was about before people started calling him out. Not only did the bizarre rules make me immediately raise an eyebrow, but the general chat... It was absolutely nothing but people reposting an emoji of his sonas butt, over and over again. Walls of butt, more butt, and occasional nonsensical phrases like "pawsies." I'm not even sure if there was ever any genuine discussion in that chat. It was possibly the most bizarre and mind numbing discord experience I had ever been through💀

[@luckychaos2997]

“Walls of Butts” sounds like the name of a sucky romance, novel, but still thank you for your sacrifice.

[@SunderZyzie]

​@@luckychaos2997 seems like something you'd see reading "50 shades of grey"

[@MyUsernameIsGoofy]

​@@luckychaos2997 Nah it sounds like a Boss in a modern cartoon network game

[@JohnDoe-no9oq]

@@MyUsernameIsGoofy "DARN IT MORDECIA, YOU unleashed Muscle Man's Dad out of the underworld and now he's going to smush us to D-E-A-T-H with his BUTT. Fix this NOW or YOUR FIRED!" -Benson, sometime in the past millennium.

[@godzillagamer7512]

@@SunderZyzie 50 shades of sea green

[@Gmalter9398]

This is a cult like leader that enforces very unfair rules and patreon price that are very high is actually insane, someone has to stop this dude. Get his mom on this shit

[@FredBear12]

I think the mom left because she couldn’t handle what she saw so we got a step mom instead. Will that work?

[@Gmalter9398]

@@FredBear12 what? Really dang, but wdym will that work?

[@pumpkin960]

0:13 I love how there is just a smiling hotdog in the middle

[@fluidwolf]

Them being so afraid to let anyone seemingly do anything that isn't centered around him is very much very creepy. Especially to the point where other content creators are just not allowed. So insecure in their place above everyone that they can't allow anything that can be construed as competition.

[@mr.classicragememerook96]

I wouldn't say creepy it just seems like some selfish cartoon character brought to friggin' life.

[@Wasted-Vessel-Sloth]

Grandiose narcissist

[@Sacara101]

The thing about the hugging clip that bothers me the most is that they paid $500 but all 3 of them just stand there silent. It's almost like he said I'll hug you but your not allowed to move or speak.

[@artisannoteworthy]

That's pretty much it. They're not allowed to talk or do anything or they will loose their status. I've seen other videos and break downs about him (I suggest you check someone too) and it seems like a lot of them are placed dummies - empty models used to appear that he has more people paying those prices than there actually are. (Further trying to manipulate CHILDREN into thinking " people are actually buying it? I have to so I can be mentioned too!!" Thinking they'll gain more status.)

[@RaethFennec]

I had that exact reaction and the worst, creepiest parts about it are 1: I'm almost certain that's the case and 2: he turned THEIR TIME into an advertisement. Just made them into a prop for his scheme. Of course they're silent and obedient. If they're in that deep to pay $250+ for that, they're going to do anything and exactly what he tells them to do. Stand there, don't talk, don't move around a lot.

[@Sacara101]

@@RaethFennec At that point it almost sounds more like a punishment. XD And a true cult. They almost feel obligated to give him money. He probably makes them feel bad if they don't. Probably says things like, "If you liked my content so much you'd support me. Only my true fans support me." (At least this is my head cannon of how they speak.)

[@CinnamonRuby]

20:14 jumpscare warning

[@bloopie4213]

Bro he's advertising a literal furry game with some "spicy" lost animations what's wrong with him

[@Katt--]

I went over to his channel to check out the plane crash for myself and after getting curious, clicked the shop tab. The first piece of merch is a sticker you can buy titled "Dragon gasm". Although more interesting is every other piece of merch on the tab is his persona with the camera creepily zoomed onto It's crotch area, and this isn't just one thing it's more than nine pieces of merch with that. And it isn't stickers either, it's plastered on pillows with varying degrees of zoom. He sells this to children.

[@BerserkBioDragoon]

That is very messed up

[@princesscadance197]

I've seen enough stories of these 'kid-friendly' creators taking a really sharp turn south, that I've just become jaded on the matter and always assume there's always going to be something very wrong with any creator who specifically targets children with their content.

[@MinosPrimeLustLayer]

he was never kid friendly

[@Chespingod]

Dang, I used to watch his changed shorts. I can’t believe that he’s actually like this, I’ll make sure to keep this in mind the next time I scroll onto one of his videos. Edit: i think before I get harassed I should address this, I like changed but I don’t like the fetish.

[@Chespingod]

Not only is he a bad example for the furry community but he’s a bad example as a human being-

[@bluedogeee]

Man made North Korea into a discord server💀

[@Meowsler]

All It takes is for one massive youtuber to talk about this guy, and his entire facade just crumbles. Idk why anyone else hasn't

[@erikjohnson2885]

they have, there have been several, practically a yearly tradition.

[@Meowsler]

@@erikjohnson2885 but a youtuber that people will want to listen to, like scarce or anyone that announces this sort of drama and scandals like mutahar

[@erikjohnson2885]

@@Meowsler Its big enough that it is actually a yearly tradition but its too small for the bigger youtubers and scarce , well hes an obscure individual. Mutahar primary focuses on things large enough that the general public or federal government had to respond to it primary Tech based things and the occasional underage scandal with a large companies or tech scandals, or youtubers mass scamming similar to Coffeezilla. Garo is simply a small-fry compared to these situations, perhaps when he gets bigger he could be seen by someone like moist critical, or full proof he is scouting for younger individuals maybe he would covered, his cult is too loyal to speak up for now; and if you observe his channel alot of videos are deleted so hes staying off the radar hes not Onison 2.0 furry addition yet, but maybe someday, he deletes every comment or has someone deleting every comment to keep himself safe.

[@Meowsler]

@@erikjohnson2885 can I get a tl:dr

[@erikjohnson2885]

@@Meowsler Sir do you have dyslexia I ask this genuinely.

[@Emoboy1837]

Hello as a member of the bugsnax community i just want to say we do NOT condone the actions of GaroShadowscale and we do NOT want him here we have no intent to associate with him and are taking measures to exclude him from our community, Thank you for your time.

[@donaldmcdonald3434]

As a member of the submissive gay gooey shark furry community, we don't claim him.

[@simbachvazo6530]

I'm pretty sure actual cults are more lenient than this.

[@firecatanimated2525]

this is some crazy stuff, you really highlight the sick things this guy does

[@deathound]

It's exactly these kinda of people that cause the community (outside of the typical degeneracy) to be frowned upon. I myself am a furry but I can't help but feel disgust towards people like this, and is exactly why I stay far away from the community.

[@SkyBrigidRain]

Same and it sucks!!!

[@dragonlootz]

same i felt like an anti furry watching this

[@Atlantis_Mapper]

I feel disgust for the entire community , I'M THE FAR RIGHT NOW

[@user-um1np8fx3j]

respect

[@superpieman5773]

It's the majority, if you dont leave and make your own you will never get rid of the stigma, it's yall fault too

[@aydengaming553]

Ok, im a bit of a narcissist, but even this is insane to me. Everyone partakes in some ego trips, its just human. But this!... this is... disgusting

[@dcornect53]

Hey, just want to let you know that the harm cults do is actually mostly psychological and emotional, not physical. In fact physical harm is usually only found in the more extreme cases when not self-inflicted harm as a result of the psychological and emotional harm. So this person is not only using grooming tactics to manipulate and desensitize children, but is also using cult tactics to amass a following of vulnerable innocents that will turn against each other and the people around them, isolating them socially from any form of help or suggestions of critical thinking that could protect them from abuse or being taken advantage of by any predators or stop any current predators from continuing to prey on them. This is an older video, so I wouldn't be surprised if some accusations came to light since this was posted.

[@morgandraegar7301]

There's always bad apples, no matter what community it is. Stay vigilant, and don't lose hope. Peace

[@Teutonic.Knight]

W

[@Preston_Garvy]

The fair sheriff of cod, lobbies I’ve heard things that I’ll rock your feet out of your boots .-.

[@Adam-of5lu]

I remember knowing this guy when he was a lot smaller of a twitch streamer. He wouldn't let me talk about *anything* relating to twitch streamers, and due to my literal 2 followers on twitch at the time, wouldn't let me into the server, once he figured out I streamed. It's genuinely funny.

[@Adam-of5lu]

He also said something about "other twitch streamers" using their watcherbase to prey on minors and compared me to them, explaining why I wasn't allowed into his server lol

[@colorblockpoprocks6973]

@@Adam-of5lu daaaamn projection much lmaoo

[@WildArtistsl]

​@@Adam-of5luo.O wat

[@france_losted_togermany]

​@@Adam-of5lukinda ironic, I wouldn't be surprised if "spicy messages" didn't spill out of him and a minor

[@LucinaVRC]

He brands himself as a god while not even having full body tracking in vrchat lol

[@EGGPLAYUH420j9]

Bro thinks he’s the main character of the entire universe

[@KiiXii]

1:38 “make a funny face and put your thumb up if you’re being held hostage”.

[@kolonelwolf2449]

omg HAHAHAHA

[@rafaelmoreno6331]

Mf lookin like it would blink out secret codes for help

[@katanamain]

There is good furries There is bad furries And then there is garo

[@JestarPhoenix]

Yes, the ugly one.

[@spanoguy2283]

The good, the bad, and the mentally deranged

[@flamerangerg5823]

Of all the furries Garo is one of them

[@aquaponieee]

@@flamerangerg5823 Of all humans and living creatures of this world, Garo is one of them

[@could_possiblybe_thane07echo]

Lol ur pfp unnerves me

[@anonymouswolf5776]

Would making a blood pact going against people like this be seen as bad, I've never seen a blood pact use in a good light to I'm trying to do it myself with some friends.

[@theparanormal27]

It's a blood pact to stop people like Garo and it might expand to something more if we decide.

[@AnonymousWolfArmy]

I thought the point of a blood pact was to keep this between ourselves, now we have do the oath again guys.

[@anomalousentity-kv9]

​@@AnonymousWolfArmy At the end of the day, we're still friends.

[@father9167]

@@anomalousentity-kv9and also at the end of the day we’re all friends unless it’s garo fuck him

[@PsychicSploob]

Honestly, there's a pretty big problem with parasocial relationships in the furry fandom. There's a lot of lonely men in the fandom who struggle to socialize with people privately and they fall victim to predatory people like this. Garo is hardly the only person doing this, and honestly, if he wasn't such an awful person, this could be ok. I think it's possible to profit from a largely parasocially involved base without being a terrible and predatory human being.

[@ProtoProductions]

I sometimes hate knowing a person like this is in my same fandoms and plays the same games as me 😭

[@anidiot4702]

I like this video because, as a furry myself, it’s fairly respectful to the community. Usually when people talk about furries it’s in a negative light as per the public perception (e.g. Turkey Tom). This feels weird to say, but it’s nice to see.

[@woofnuggiez]

Yeah same, no gr00ming allegations, or z00phile allegations, just too much ego lol.

[@francothebrazilian2764]

Bro what are you talking about you guys are all z00philes

[@hazridge]

That’s because ClappedSeal is a furry 😝

[@anidiot4702]

@@hazridge womp womp

[@linkmon12]

I also agree

[@I-eat-dirt45]

This guy is the reason some furries have a bad reputation

[@I-eat-dirt45]

I forgot Changed is a very sexualized game

[@bob-lx3rd]

7:54 the whay he said wigglies had me dying

[@FrownToClown]

Why is it always the dragon furries that get full of themselves like this? It's not all of them. But it's always dragons

[@novadotflac]

welp, dragons like treasure, i suppose

[@FrownToClown]

@@novadotflac I genuinely love this reply, thank you

[@novadotflac]

@@FrownToClown you're most welcome

[@johnpayne5590]

Dragons are typically seen as proud creatures, and keep gigantic hoards of items. Same for this guy but instead of pride it's arrogance, and he is a cult leader

[@dragonlootz]

as a scalie i am disappointed

[@apstreamz]

I absolutely hate he has private calls for minors. I have several active in my community but they have to be 18 or have a parent/guardian present for any voice activity.

[@Glitched_System_byte]

Yeah, that would be the morally correct thing to facilitate.

[@Axispa.]

Its kinda fucked up,he’s gonna end up like HypnotistSappho Grooming Minor’s that Animal’s can consent and its ok to do it with them.

[@apstreamz]

@@Axispa. the things I'd do to that monstrous woman if I had the chance

[@colorblockpoprocks6973]

who the hell gonna believe any other discord user is "their guardian" bruh

[@sveps8883]

I have seen some of his YT shorts with games i like and subscribed without knowing anything about him. Now that i see this video i will never forget myself for subscribing a KZbinr without knowing about them...

[@sveps8883]

I obviously unsubscribed

[@Ivytheleafwing207]

bro is just a control freak 💀

[@Dubstequtie]

What's creepy is the 2 stated "it's okay to be on without me" are 2 servers he own that logs all in game chats and he can see at any time. Meaning, he says it's okay because it's a trap to see if anyone is not including him in any way or talking ill of him, so he can take action of those people... which is the most egotistic mental trap.. what a sad life.

[@lilsavdood2001]

After researching I found Garo has his own account on e621 (for non-furries I recommend researching at your own will) under his username, and the only content he has favourited are of his own OC. I even looked at the comments on these posts, and I discovered pretty much all the comments appease Garo in someway, and I can see in his replies he thrives on this gratification. Its like he’s farming attention on these posts.

[@dragondust5023]

E621 is a porn site for those who don't know and dont wanna see that kinda stuff

[@retrogamernr.8569]

Like a dragon wanting to have more and more treasure

[@RandomDude1487]

Damn, didn’t know that random channel I watched to see Undertale Yellow content that I forgot about because he moved on to a new game was THIS bad

[@estonedreveldo735]

As a furry degen, I can tell you all that "wiggles" is a VERY sexual term in the fandom.

[@jillcipher]

As a member of the fandom for years, I’ve never heard that term…is it something specific with dragonsonas or something?

[@ket451]

​@@jillcipher I imagine it's something to do with the odd vibes with the whole "tail wags" thing, 'least when it comes to vr based creators

[@platiuscyndar9017]

wiggles being sexualized would be a new thing to me as well...

[@cookiecat7547]

As a dragon hybrid this is new to me. What exactly?

[@ket451]

@@JxJx2005 degenerate

[@olliesworld3277]

This truly is a furry cult OH MY GOD

[@olliesworld3277]

Also on the subject about the birthday Bros never heard of the happy unbirthday song 😭 from Alice in wonderland??

[@United_States_Of_America__]

Furry Hitler 💀

[@justacheesyguy]

nahh bro needs to go back into his cave and get slayed by a knight.

[@SunderZyzie]

​@@United_States_Of_America__ Atleast he did not ramble about Jews

[@could_possiblybe_thane07echo]

​@United_States hey man that's not nice! That's an insult to Hitler! (Joke)

[@Scug_Cat]

Damn.. this hit harder than the bone crushing rain..

[@valentinewhite9298]

Oh my god he’s been making undertale yellow videos and i have been getting recommended them and DIDNT NOTICE UNTIL NOW

[@Panzer_Runner]

The fact that 7000+ people is putting up with this guy is beyond me

[@retrogamernr.8569]

They're either too young to know better or need professional help with mental issues. Cults target vulnerable people, and that guy is no exception.

[@MSICosmetic]

I swear, this guys discord server rules are legit something out of 1984.

[@IIFaadu]

the fact that i use to be in this discord and he told me to get off his server because it was my birthday (im dead ass) and i celebrated it in his server (use to be one of the only servers I was in)

[@funnynuri]

19:00 i recorded it

[@pokemonfanwsbgalt8574]

BRO

[@dead_vibes]

Did this dude try to become Atlas and Narcissus at the same time? How does anyone with a dragon persona have the right to be this cocky?

[@airstep001]

Get a mirror right now

[@gabrielc7861]

​@@airstep001 ?

[@airstep001]

@@gabrielc7861 when Narcissus looked at his own reflection in the myth he was so mesmerized by himself that he never moved eventually dying