THE PAN AMERICA RUINED MY LIFE

[@fullmetalcorgi1350]

Whitney for Prez

[@vinniemadrox]

Whitney for Prez......I'll take the Blue.....

[@charlesstoddard2458]

I was ready the pull the trigger on a Pan America. Dealer quoted me $25600 out the door. Bought a Super Tenere instead and saved enough money to buy a KLR 650. Screw H-D and their "premium" brand pricing.

[@paulwojnar2291]

Charles Stoddard, I dont know what dealer you went to . My local HD dealer here in NE PA put me on a 2022 Pan America Special in vivid black out the door at $21,000.00. Less that a comparable BMW GSA.

[@gusallegri5393]

Love my Pan Am and my Road King. Made in America is important to some people. The Pan Am is an amazing piece of engineering, an historic bike for HD and I’m proud to own it…. Worth every penny

[@elchorrodeorro7888]

I got mine for 18K 😂

[@ZombieZim713]

cry more. price competitive with GS and SuperAdventure.

[@wrongthinker350]

There's lots of them hitting the used market now saw a nice one the other day with 1500 km for 18 Grand.

[@ridingwithrusso7790]

I can relate! In the summer of 2021 I owned a nice DRZ400SM, went to a HD demo where they just let me take the Pan America, solo. I was blown away, I felt SO confident. Summer of 2022 I traded my DRZ in on a 2016 Versys 1000, which I LOVE now, but on the ride home I was comparing it to Pan America demo, and I thought I had made a terrible mistake. That said, now I feel very confident on the versys, and I have no plans to trade it in. But if I had $20k opposed to the $9k I paid for my Versys…

[@Ritalie]

I bought a Hayabusa, because it was $7,500 for a bike with 5,200 miles on it, basically brand new, and they are around $14,000 new. It's difficult to find any adventure bike for $7,500, and the Hayabusa with 114 ft lbs of torque, makes such a nice driving experience, the motor has so much torque, it always makes driving extremely fun. I can't really understand how people afford to pay a dealer, and pay the full coverage insurance. Insurance for a Hayabusa is $500 a month for full coverage. How does someone afford the loan, and $500 a month just for insurance, on something they can only drive 4 or 5 months out of the year? Buying a used motorcycle is so much cheaper because you don't need full coverage insurance. Liability insurance for the Hayabusa is only about $45 a month. If they didn't require full coverage insurance, I'd take out a dealer loan, and go buy a new ADV bike.

[@CurtisMaron]

I have had a 21 PA. White and orange. It is my favourite bike ever and the best bike I have ever owned. It did have a couple electrical gremlins that were quickly resolved. It is still the best bike I have ever bought. You cannot help but have fun on this machine. It is my first HD, I have only owned Japanese bikes before. I was going to buy a bmw, but I took the PA for a test ride. Game over. I put a deposit and ordered the PA and waited all summer for it due to inventory issues. Best decision I ever made. No regrets.

[@billyflanagan9657]

Great review. Iam Trading my 2023 lowrider st tomorrow for the 2024 PA.

[@phil4986]

Hearing Whitney say how great the PanAmerica is... is awesome to hear and see. Well done Harley and Whitney and that other rider, whoever he is. lol. Ya'll do know this is a KLR650 simping video too. Just saying. Kawasaki just nailed it with that bike.

[@jaylangguth]

That’s Troy Polamalu

[@jerryaldeene]

@@jaylangguthWho?

[@scottcook-sb1sv]

@@jaylangguth What are you talking about?

[@phil4986]

@@jaylangguth LOL,yes he is.

[@MasterChief0093]

You should also look into how many of us can’t get to 3k miles in over a year due to how much it breaks down for mechanical and electrical issues. And then HD refuses to replace your bike for non lemon versions. They just tell you to keep bringing it back. And now many of us are about to run out of warranty and we don’t have a functioning bike. SOOOOOOO MANY OF US. don’t buy it! They do not support those of us who have issues. They just brag about the ones that run well or only have 1 or two issues and then claim they back their customers. If they stood by their brand as a name of quality, they would just replace our lemons as it does not meet their quality “standards”. It’s a huge gamble getting one of these for that alone. They’ll just force you to keep coming in for repairs unless you can afford a lawsuit.

[@bjarneberg4802]

If it makes you feel a little better, I just checked the price on it where I live (Norway) and it’s just over 36’ 😮

[@Yamahog]

Spite,....@4:33, "trusting the bike" is actually a fruition of the mantra of "becoming one with the machine" , Once Courtney is able to do that .... anything is possible that the bike can do

[@Yamahog]

My Bad Whitney....... Auto Correct, And I didn't catch it

[@PetrolJunkie]

HD is not the first company to do the adpive ride height. Honda used to have it on their air ride Gold Wings.

[@MastaKeahi]

Anyone here watch Bikes and Beards drop his because the ride height didn’t go back down because of an electrical error?

[@PetrolJunkie]

I watched it happen to my riding partner because they where not prepared for the bike to still be up. Supposedly, it's been fixed through a software update but I'm not a big fan. I'd rather ingrain the habit of slide to the side and stretch than to surprise it didn't drop down.

[@blar9dase]

So happy to see you enjoy the Pan Am. love my 21 1250RAS with the ARH and wouldn't trade it for any other ADV.

[@SabrPunk7]

Having the privilege of working in a Harley Dealer up in Canada, I've had to ability to ride many many different bikes. And I genuinely love to be able to do that. I want a cruiser, I want a sport bike, but I definitely want a Pan Am. I love it. But I'm holding out to see if HD makes a 975 or equivalent and seeing if or how they make design changes. I was stoked to hear about the release and I'm still stoked about them now. I may have a bias towards Harley, because I was baptized in HD Motor Oil. But hell yeah, the Pan Am rocks.

[@nordicjourneys]

I need you and spite to try a ktm 1290 adventure to compare cause that thing blew me away!

[@victoryengineer]

If I win the lottery I'll be happy to get both of you a new Pan America Special decked out.

[@insatiable_mind]

Whitney for president! You should change that though to every parent gets a Pan-American. “We didn’t really care if it was a boy or a girl but she really wanted a Pan Am”😂😂😂

[@Telecasterland]

Whitney for President 2024! Lets do this!

[@KeViNMCMXXCIX]

Cross country trip ft Whitney, Josh and Spite on Pan Am's. I'd watch for sure! Also the 300 may be workin' but it's doing it. And I bet they're having fun doing so, lol.

[@ryanashley347]

Burrito

[@bryanschwabenland6657]

Mama's Appetite, Makes a Great Cheesy Bean Burritos, ✔️Out, Lol.

[@Skidz75]

Excellent video! I’m considering a PanAm. Can’t wait to ride one of these bad boys. Enjoy your content!

[@MasterChief0093]

Don’t do it! Look at the videos people put out for all the non stop issues. They won’t honor lemon law without a lawsuit.

[@victoryengineer]

There are a lot of those old dusty Harley bagger guys making the switch. Once they see how much more comfortable the Pan America is as a very long tourer....and still able to confidently travel less than perfect dirt roads, they are sold. Plus you get better mileage and awesome power. I love mine and admit I do miss the sound of a traditional Harley, but the plusses far outweigh that. My butt and back are thankful, lol.

[@captslaq]

The Versys-X 300 is a great intro adv bike that's priced entry level and SIGNIFICANTLY lighter. Owning both a Versys and a Pan America, I have to admit that the Pan America gets much more time though. Not a lot of places to take a big ADV off the asphalt where I'm located unfortunately.

[@aidens04]

I love that green but not the logo on it. Rather just have the modern HD logo. Great video you two. As usual!

[@hughmac7423]

I like the army green, I have my eye on one now.

[@giovannidelgrande5732]

I love the Pan Am, beautiful bike. Went to the local HD dealership to see the few they have in stock a few weeks ago. They had one used 2021 special with 30,000 miles on it and were asking $23,500 for it, which is $2000 over new MSRP. Also asked about the prices on the new 2023 Pan Am specials, the price was $29,000 for either which is an insane ask for theee bikes. They are awesome but not $36,000 OTD awesome. Nothing on the bikes over what came from the factory.

[@THELASTRID3R]

This is so on point, I went to look at a Low Rider ST, Harley dealer here in VA wanted 27k OTD.. I walked.. They told me that there no dealer markup lol

[@lpete531]

That's the real talk that's mentioned and will not get a remark from this KZbinr!

[@Skidz75]

Disclaimer: I do not work for HD , or ride a HD. I just checked today, 3/20. Here in Dallas Longhorn HD has a 2021 Special with 800miles advertising for $17,499.00. So even with tax, it’s under 20k. Not too shabby. I feel under 20k for a low mileage one would be acceptable.

[@gusallegri5393]

Yuba city HD in NorCal, 25otd with ARH, full black panniers and laced wheels included. Smokin deal and I got top dollar for my Triumph Tiger. Ask for Andy, he’ll earn your business!

[@elchorrodeorro7888]

I got mine for 18K with 100 miles on it.

[@thatchh1]

Try a Triumph Tiger 1200. It has a lowering system as well, and all the tech that the Pan Am has. I bought an end of year 23 demo (2k miles) GT Explorer for 14K with full warranty. I admit I'm biased toward triples, but the price I paid put it into a much more affordable realm.

[@RadicalLinguisticDescriptivism]

I would unironically vote for a candidate running on a "Give everyone a Pan America" platform. Such adorable squids on that ninja. Keep the rubber side down kids.

[@ParallelCamper]

I like the paint.

[@Ray_Conda]

I'm 5'6 and everytime I walk up to that thing it just looks way too much. I ride a Tiger 800 Low right now, but really want that beefy Pan Am! stupid 29" inseam :(

[@captslaq]

Perhaps test ride one with a low saddle and adaptive ride height? They are game changers making these things super accessible, and a 29" inseam is not nearly the problem that you would think.

[@AselevID]

If you like that, I'd love to see your opinion of the KTM 890 Adventure "Standard" with the seat in the low position. The R variant seems to be what everyone thinks they need/can do, but the standard is what they actually need. Plus a much better cost.

[@Whitney_Does]

Will def have to try

[@brianhaenlein396]

I bought a PanAm here in the Philippines< It is a 2022 Special model but there is nothing special about it. It has been in the dealer for over 3 months out of 13 months of ownership and is still there. It has many problems and I am trying to get my money back.

[@MarkBardell-f2l]

I just traded my ultra limited, which I just loved riding.. it was less than a year old and I'd done just over 6000 miles. I now own a brand new Pan America. It'll be in my garage midday tomorrow. I'm so stoked. It looks effing fantastic. Can't wait.

[@JimmyMacTavish]

Spite is like “This one time at Sturgis” 🙃

[@greenrush4313]

i have the same bike with all the upgrades.

[@philipparana9225]

I get the feeling these guys just haven't ridden many adv bikes

[@Whitney_Does]

I've ridden BMW ones, KTM and Guzzi. Soooo 🤷 . Guess it's time to check out the Yamaha's

[@kupalisky3553]

Have you guys even rode the CRF1100 Africa Twin? Because everything good you say about the Pan Am applies to the AT but at a much better price point

[@Whitney_Does]

Not yet! Definitely on the to-do list

[@Skidz75]

“Everything good you say applies”…. not quite. AT is a Ptwin. Not near the character of the Vtwin. Otherwise, the AT is a great choice. 🤙

[@MasterChief0093]

Honda has better quality control and customer service. And much cheaper. Apple CarPlay vs the janky Harley infotainment. I’m trying to get rid of my lemon of a pan am so I can “downgrade” to an AT because they are reliable and much more affordable.

[@Whitney_Does]

@@MasterChief0093 what happened with your Pan Am?

[@MasterChief0093]

@@Whitney_Does when I get home from work, I’ll break out my repair records and make a concise list.

[@TheTTLegend]

All this talk about how great it is in the dirt. Why no dirt ride?

[@rockway32]

it's a really good bike and a really good tech package but not 30 000 CAD+taxes good sadly

[@paulwojnar2291]

I would not give any dealership of any make motorcycle who is marking up the price above MSRP. Thats price gouging. Thats greed. I do not associate with greedy people. My dealer sells all bikes at MSRP or less to long term repeat customers. My 2022 PAS 1250 went out the door at 21,000. If I wear this one out I will trade for a new one at my dealership. They also have mechanics there who embrace and are very knowledgeable with the new tech of the Rev Max bikes. If a dealer is jacking the prices above MSRP then I would run from that dealer.

[@user-bl8bn4kb8m]

Bike is so much fun, once you bet on it you dont want to get off...

[@viperq]

I like the military green color.

[@satur9satur9]

I was dreading Whitney saying she'd give up the r9t and the svartpilen for the Pan America but she didn't

[@harryhowell5644]

Next demo i want to try it 😮

[@jayluper9523]

I uh I'm a dork I tested a Pan America and I like the Honda NC750X better

[@Whitney_Does]

Def like the looks on the Pan Am more, but I'd definitely be down to try the Honda

[@joehibb1]

That green is actually my favorite color Pan Am so far lol.

[@Whitney_Does]

The green is great. The graphics are poop

[@joehibb1]

​@@Whitney_Does I'll give you that one 😂

[@joehibb1]

​@@Whitney_Does it reminds me of that star tattoo that everyone who grew up in the early 2000s has.

[@burgersquid]

Not my favorite bike, but I appreciate that it doesn't don't have the whole pareidolia fairing looks like a human face thing going on. that shit is tired

[@willp2042]

Excellent vid. Sound you love the PAS so much as I did. I sold my GSA 2020 and purchased PAS 2021, everything is fine except the heat on the right side, especially in summer time, so I installed the titanium wrap on the header pipe and reduced 30%. Not sure if you are facing with this issue and what is your solution? Thanks & Subscribed.

[@hughmac7423]

The BMW GS is just too big and chunky.

[@Magic_Toaster]

the little 300 that could

[@keithsmith9889]

Hey Whitney I know I have heard that opening song before but can't place it who is that?

[@ausforce1]

Hahaha 😂😂 you guys lol KTM 1290 SAR enough said, the Pan-Am is a long way of that benchmark.

[@B_Ritt70]

I love the Pan America also, best motorcycle for me by far.

[@ronaldw783]

The Pan America is a "Gateway Adventure Bike".....yet your video shows you riding on hard top. Where's the link showing you riding this "gateway bike" off road" feeling like Superman? Look forward to seeing the video of you riding this off road.

[@Whitney_Does]

They are on a different channel and I legally can’t post any footage here! BUTT I plan on going back out on one in the future for sure

[@dasko3]

Yay first! Take that Corgi!

[@fullmetalcorgi1350]

The one time I dont take my phone to the pooper

[@maguslascivious4980]

I liked the white/orange so much. The 'sand'/blue is ok too.. the yellow one looks like BUTT... The grey one looks ok.

[@officialwildcardadventures]

My Pan America was pure garbage. Junk. Ill never ride Harley again because of the Pan America.

[@wrongthinker350]

What went wrong with your bike? Would the dealer not fix it for you?

[@bmagada]

What do you know? Harley makes a different kind of bike and boom, they finally get massive hit again......and its same old harley pricing at 20k. You know what keeps me off a Harley? The ridiculous price point and that's before the Harley tax. I'm on a rebel 1100 now and the bike they have that's the equivalent (the nightster) rides worse, has less tech, and has comparable stat numbers for more money. I get it. The Panamerica is basically an dream ADV bike with sweet features....that no one with this administrations economics can afford without biting down really hard. I love this bike very much, and I will never own one. Now if they stripped a lot of it down like they did with the Sportster S to make the Nightster and gave you a lower powered PanAM for like 14-15k then I'd trade in right now.

[@CallaFab]

Pan Am = $20k, BMW 1250 GS = $22k, Triumph Tiger 1200 = $22k, KTM 1290 SAS = $21k.... I don't see a problem with the price for what you get.

[@KENNETHedwardMitchell]

It’s like the iPhone of bikes.

[@philipmillen4271]

Pan America is full of gremlins, search how bad this bike is in the real world

[@Whitney_Does]

Yeah I’m starting to see all the issues come out over the last 6 months. Down fall of filming on a bike I’ve ridden a bunch but never owned

[@jacobgibson9814]

Im a beginner on my pan am ;) i rode street for 6 months and rode dirt as a kid, but at ~40 im a newby to adv riding

[@JoseAlvarez-dl3hm]

Idk, the African Twin is way better than the pan, even the V-Stroms are way better than any HD adv bike, and they are way cheaper.

[@Whitney_Does]

AT and V Strom don’t even come close to the amount of rider aid tech that the pan am has. BUTT the Africa Twin is definitely on my list

[@keithsmith9889]

Perfect?... I'm 6'2 I can barely get flat footed. And just being honest it's literally the ugliest thing they have ever made. I was so disappointed when they down tuned the new sportster

[@leandroflaherty]

It looks sooooo ugly though..

[@rustyshackleford7923]

Feeding Al

[@bryanschwabenland6657]

Back the BLUE✔️.

[@ellwoodwolf]

Jesus Christ your guys pan am simping is ridiculous and driving people away.

[@Whitney_Does]

Bye 👋

[@eltonwhite8490]

ANY of the HD dealers in my Area total scumbag con artists they add so much bill stuffing to the price it's just not worth the effort or the money the Pan Am just does not justify the price screw that over priced shitbox

[@texasaggieproud]

Whitney, you could do an awesome Towelie voice if you tried. 😊

[@viperrc535]

Nobodies buying this bike😢

[@spencervidal3168]