The Penuel Show in conversation with Nota Baloyi, AKA Case, Independent Media, Divorce

[@konvo_za]

THE PENUEL SHOW WITH NOTA BALOYI 00:00 - INTRO 08:05 - Last sit-down episode with Dj Sbu 20:40 - Dealing with trauma I faced 26:05 - How was your stay in the states 30:25 - What prompted my return to SA 34:15 - Voicing out my opinions on AKA shooting 43:45 - Do you regret your actions 46:05 - Dealing with podcast controversy 50:20 - Being honest with my family 55:40 - The downside of truth 1:18:40 - Importance of independent voices 1:21:05 - Importance of family structure 1:36:05 - Closing comments 1:40:26 - ENDS Compiled by Khwezi Ndlovu IG: kzndlovu Tt: khwezindlovu

[@Penuelism]

@@konvo_za Thank you, Khwezi 🙏🏽❤️

[@lstoryrecords_]

Thankyou for the timestamps

[@luxoloncukana1858]

Please invite Rutendo i really want to here his take on the GNU and the future he sees for SA by taking this route ​@@Penuelism

[@NinjaLeeful]

❤❤Nota, thanks for squashing the beef n bringing him back

[@mthobisipm]

I love this version of NOTA. He is not the arguing chap, he is able to hold a conversation and provide life lessons along with that... Thanks Pen.

[@MissCombs1511]

It was touch and go in some places... but overall, he's pulled himself together..

[@Penuelism]

Feedback from the production crew: There was an audio issue in the first 15mins of the sitdown. We apologize for the inconvenience & we'll ensure to fix for the future. Thank you for the feedback 🙏🏽

[@delightrie]

timestamps?

[@Penuelism]

@@delightrie Khwezi Ndlovu normally creates our timestamps and drops them in the afternoon, when he's available.

[@NTVZ_production]

" The Illuminati messed up my audio on the penuel show " - Nota Baloyi.

[@Penuelism]

​@@NTVZ_production😂😂😂

[@NTVZ_production]

@@Penuelism😁 that's Nota for you Mzansi weird cousin, but we love him.

[@Sifunukwazi_Dingiswayo]

The maturity to sit with someone who talked smack and maybe hurt your feelings is completely impressive I respect the both of you. The only ukuhlanya okubhadele... 🖋️

[@aiafricandesigns]

When i see Nota, especially on my favorite channel, i watch bro 😂😂

[@fanelesibongemthethwa153]

Can we not forget how both black brothers have been judged through out… yet they still true and we listening… funda black child

[@Sbongakonke02]

I feel like NOTA lives so authentic life, man!! Same with Pen. No Lv, Gucci stuffs. Just look how they're dressed

[@lingedilinga2138]

Not wearing brands is authentic?

[@lingedilinga2138]

@@Sbongakonke02 maybe ndim i don't know what authentic is

[@simonndou2416]

​@lingedilinga2138 am asking the some

[@simonboyane1140]

​@@lingedilinga2138😂😂😂😂

[@simonboyane1140]

I think the better word is "simple".

[@Penuelism]

I previously privatized Nota's previous 2 episodes, due to frustrations I had with Nota personally. We've since made them public again, so feel free to go and rewatch them. Enjoy today's episode & shoutout to Nhlamulo "Nota" Baloyi for constantly living his truth.

[@thegoodpodcastwithET]

Aweh, Dankie Penzo. I always smile when i see brothers make up and understand each other again. This is Huge for me because I'm a huge fan of Both of you brothers.

[@Penuelism]

@@thegoodpodcastwithET Blessings 🙏🏽

[@cloudy_muro]

Knowing Penuel, i was soo suprised to see Nota, im glad you were able to move past the differences.

[@sicelomthethwa3791]

Pen thanks for bringing the Authority back, can you please invite Rutendo back bro I know you may feel he disrespected you and south Africans in General but he brought some subscribers to your Chanel, not that you owe him but for the sake of us who love these honest conversations please bring the brother back especially since he's fighting inscor and GMO's which are affecting everyone even here in southa, we need your platform brother 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@khayaduma]

@@sicelomthethwa3791 last time Penuel and Rutendo sat, they sort of promised to unpack the companies in SA, or SADEC, I guess "Stellenbosch Mafias" in general to paraphrase

[@lionelscarf2872]

Finally. Two of the most opinionated but important voices I this space. Especially on pressing, sensitive matters.

[@tshabalala7]

Ok

[@luvuyoimp]

One thing I admire about Mr Penuel is his ability to listen, he really listens attentively & he's an inspiration to me since i'm learning the skill. All respect bhuti omdala

[@Penuelism]

Thank you, Luvuyo 🙏🏽

[@mphomokhoane5714]

I never thought I would say this but this was an incredible interview with Nota. No drama, just pure, intellectual conversation. Amazing stuff.

[@ZomInterns]

Dope content... i just pray for Notas safety and sanity.. hes one of the real ones left

[@mfanakithi2002]

Listening to Nota is such an experience. You never know if you are being taken for a ride or it’s something genuine

[@whatshotnow6718]

The catch-up, the reunion... Only God knows how much I needed this sitdown. 😊 Sorry Pen, when are you having a conversation with Mnu. Mzwakhe Mbuli? I think it's necessary.

[@bonginkosimunyai1153]

We need it

[@coachingmissp2491]

The pain in his voice talking about his niece…😢😢 Big ups to you Penuel for giving him the room to talk through it ❤

[@owenkeyninnaweseb6261]

What's "thosaring" stuff

[@MentalFacility-u7o]

Songoma initiations ​@@owenkeyninnaweseb6261

[@MissCombs1511]

@@owenkeyninnaweseb6261 twasaring - he is refering to sangoma initiation.

[@MissCombs1511]

@@owenkeyninnaweseb6261 twasaring - he is refering to sangoma initiation.

[@MissCombs1511]

Right? I just let go of him calling women narcissists who have no feelings at all.

[@DattieCapelli555]

Nota has been humbled by his actions. His tone and body language says it's all.

[@buyiegwangwa]

We need more of this, we need all of you and we need to continue doing this for all of Us (South Africa - Greater Africa). Great one gents!

[@Siv-r3q]

Thanks Pen for putting your differences aside to give us this beautiful content my brother. Keep on shining champ 💪🏾

[@siyabongangcobo2009]

I didn't appreciate how Nota came for your head on twitter, the insults and being personal , never thought you will do a sit down with him ever again but here we are I guess you are good-hearted than I am Pen... Sober conversation keep it up.

[@LGKWakuGompo]

We need to have debit orders for this man R10 each person to make sure he is never hindered to do his work, his going to reject this idea but he must share his bank account so all his followers get pay R10 or R20 directly in into his bank account I will be the first this mind must be protected. Please ask him to share his bank account

[@vusmuzimasilela2358]

I support this idea ma man Pen is one of the realest and rare breed.

[@thulitukisi1711]

But there's the membership fee here on KZbin moes?

[@tshiatshipo1264]

You're reaching 😂

[@bonganirsibanda4347]

Nota is so self righteous, he can't lie, can't make a mistake, can't be wrong, can't be accountable for anything, the wife is wrong, in laws are wrong, cousins are wrong, mom, dad, sisters , colleagues etcetera and him is always right , does not have a life regret ever he is the closest thing to Jesus I know. Quite an intelligent human and it's so sad to see such an intelligent human being tortured by his God given, self researched, hard earned talent because he doesn't have the character to contain it😢

[@hlulaniwisemzimba9599]

He is intelligent and has a good networking life...however dude that is what I noticed through out the show....he is never wrong anywhere and anyone who thinks they've never been wrong on earth are more foolish than the real fools who are not intelligent

[@Augustinmasedi348]

Well exactly what I've noticed about him and yet I still love to hear his commentary on social issues especially the music industry and politics,I've learnt that you don't really have to like someone but you can still respect their intelligence

[@bonganirsibanda4347]

@@Augustinmasedi348 there's a distinctive line between knowledge and intelligence... God gave us 2 ears for every mouth just so we can listen twice more than we speak. And when we listen we should listen to understand, not to respond.

[@paballontsane592]

I could not have put it better. His intelligence is greatly undone by his delusions of grandeur.

[@timesup4454]

1pq❤❤❤❤❤

[@Thabo-uh9de]

Honestly this man has been going through a lot over a short period of time, lost friends, family, his wife, dad got cancer, been jaioed and had people tring to kill him. I really feel for him and hope he'll come out of this even stronger and stronger. Keep your head up Nota

[@Umalum_bhastedii]

We love seeing you guys together 💕Ahh NOTA🙋🏿‍♂️keeping speaking truth to POWER💪🏾😤

[@Penuelism]

@@Umalum_bhastedii 🙏🏽❤️

[@Dijo_Vu]

I’m glad Nota said what he said about Chris Excel, because beyond the banter and trolling Chris Excel is a social necessity and an iconic instrument to how information moves in south Africa

[@hawed19]

Its always wonderful seeing two great minds - Nota and Pen. Keep up the brotherhood!

[@patomwenge]

I’d love to work with Nota. Thank you for looking behind the veil and sharing. 💪 Godspeed.

[@thabomomoti5619]

I can't wait for this one

[@SAIINTPAULL]

I work for David Frankel at NextUp South Africa, and I can honestly say that he is an incredible person. He is passionate about the work we do to close the gap between underserved communities, and I had breakfast with him last week.

[@sonwabomeyi]

I think Nota has gone through a lot without properly dealing with it. Hence for a long time. He was blasting though everyone. Self-destructing. He needs to go through some healing. In whatever form he belives in. Thank you Penuel for sitting with Nota. Very min-opening episode.

[@aiafricandesigns]

PENUEL Has grown muscles. Damn look at his arms. They look big and strong. Great work PENUEL.

[@TebogoLloydMashitisho]

Road to 200k subscribers danko pen for uploading this episode am watching from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@Penuelism]

@@TebogoLloydMashitisho Blessings 🙏🏽

[@khayaduma]

Looking forward to this 🙏

[@FrankMokhine-j5d]

Talking about secret, and I quote, " A women's heart is a deep ocean of secrets"

[@izimpendulozikamgibe9732]

The reason Penuel learnt to tolerate Nota not like him ukuthi hey akatshelwa lomunt wazi yonkinto akezwa nokuzwa yerrrrr😅😂😂

[@denmat8764]

There is a change in NOTA,,growth is taking place and i've never seen him this vulnerable

[@couchambassadors]

Thanks for this episode Pride aside episode 🔥🇿🇼🇿🇦

[@danisilemlotshwa4752]

Proudly South Africans 🇿🇦...... Mzansi 4 sho.

[@mikesishi8471]

Pen so mature of you, I was more offended on your behalf, I felt like Nota was waaay out of pocket...but errrbody knows U can handle Ur own mini-conflicts

[@kgosigadientertainment2220]

Thanks Penzo for inviting The Authority

[@Nkosiyabo]

58:58 - 1:00:11 😂😂😂 yeses I don't know how many times I played that back. Thanks majita

[@elliotemmanuelnogo1632]

Broo 😂😂 he's funny without trying 😂

[@ThaZoVic]

You're not a alone bro 😂😂😂

[@Kalushi-w4t]

Hai Nge😂ke Sbali

[@bornfeliaborny4373]

It’s not even the divorce bro 😹💀

[@thapelomolefi4260]

Great minds ..i really enjoyed the conversation. This was a mastercalss whenever Nota and Penuel speaks, men must listen bright minds indeed .....

[@Joystick011]

The authority in the building

[@nkosimJabu]

Inspired by Nota especially the family part and speaking the uncomfortable truth

[@mthabisimthabi7416]

Nota is back!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@bungane_omkhulu]

This man looks humbled

[@Eazy818]

Something changed in him

[@thembelihlemaluleka4569]

Nota 💯🔥forever a pleasure listening to this gent . this was an incredible interview after sometime off podcast, he looks alot calmer and content. no drama. pure genuine. losing his niece broke his heart ; saw it in his eyes when he was talking about it . strength and guidance to him💯

[@fanelesibongemthethwa153]

Our very own bigger brothers than Kanye… we can see the light black child

[@onkewakaba8274]

Penuel is so high up in the hierachy with regards to emotional intelligence. You can offend this lad but he'll actually continue having that dialogue with you that moves beyond emotion..... Now, that is what I call a KING!!!!

[@Kat-A-Pilla]

Two of my favorite guys. Two great minds. Kings

[@karabothinane6844]

please do a historical segment with Nota , felt really interesting towards the end , great show

[@siyabongamashinini4359]

nota merits to be the friend of the show please pen consider it.

[@Pelohzewrlwide08]

my takeaways: 1. family dynamics are to be monitered and influenced for the long term better. 2. long term remifications for non free speech 3. women need social intervention, so there can be more order in our society.

[@rethabilemdlalose9963]

Independent voices are the super heroes of today,this conversation needs to spread throughout the country, worldwide actually

[@tshamanoGauteng]

I love Nota . I want him to join Penuelism

[@khabovilakazi7981]

Nota I enjoy listening to your mind set...No one will ever understand you...GOAT... There's no truth at all.Haters will be there bcse of telling the truth...Dont change ...Like a song of Barry White. ...I hope you know the song .. Dont go changly trying to please me.... Condolences to the family MHSRIP...best Uncle 🎉

[@pasekaedmond7309]

One thing as black people we are in common with is POVERTY. Sometimes good characters are born out of pain.

[@patricknkosi5412]

You know i bought a fire extinguisher for this conversation, held it in my hand for the duration of the sitdown😂... i'm glad didn't had to use it afterall😅

[@NinjaLeeful]

My favorite person thanks for bringing him back

[@samukelisiwekhumalo278]

What a sit down!! Hands down one of your many best of the best sit down... ❤

[@MonwabisiZeka]

After this episode can you please bring Rutendo please Penuel

[@DJPapzin]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:03 *🙏 Welcome and catch up* - Hwelcomes Nota Baloyi for the third time to the Penuel Show - They discuss catching up on camera and addressing difficult questions about Nota's life 01:12 *🕵️‍♂️ Curious mind* - Nota shares his research and curiosity about various topics, including the relationship between Sydney Frankel and David Frankel 02:07 *😡 Feeling disrespected* - Nota felt disrespected by the host's previous comments and abuse on Twitter 03:02 *🎙️ Reflecting on past episodes* - They discuss previous episodes of the show, some of which were made private, and address rumors about Nota's personal life 04:37 *🌎 Traveling and business interests* - Nota traveled to the United States due to safety concerns and used the opportunity to explpportunities and build relationships 05:37 *👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Family matters* - Nota clarifies that he was never married to someone named "Bita," which is actually his former mother-in-law's name 06:46 *😢 Loss and accusations* - They briefly discuss the tragic loss of Kiernan Forbes (AKA) and Tebello Motsoane (Tibz), and the accusations surrounding the incident 15:06 *👨‍⚕️ Father's health* - Nota discusses his father's health issues, including rectal bleeding, colon lumps, and chemotherapy 16:56 *🇺🇸 Asylum considerations* - Nota considered applying for asylum in the United States but decided against it due to his father's health 20:09 *🌍 International opportunities* - They discuss the importance of South African artists traveling overseas to explore opportunities in larger markets, particularly the United States 23:46 *🌍 Elon Musk, PayPal Mafia, and South African business connections* - Nota discusses Elon Musk's partner in the PayPal Mafia being related to PW Botha, and how South African political elite have similar business connections. 26:00 *✈️ Nota's time in the US and safety concerns* - Nota felt safer in the US without having to look over his shoulder constantly due to threats on his life in South Africa. 29:02 *🔙 Return to South Africa and AKA's challenges* - Nota returned to SA after being informed that it was safe, and tried to support AKA during difficult times, despite AKA surrounding himself with enablers and yes men. 00:46:43 *🎙️ Nota discusses his past relationship with MacG and how it ended* - Nota mentions MacG introspecting on the content he was creating and considering changing it - Nota felt disrespected by MacG not communicating directly about ending their working relationship - Speculates that MacG's business dealings with DStv may have influenced his decision to distance himself from Nota 00:49:01 *👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Nota emphasizes the importance of family and the challenges of being transparent* - Nota believes in transparency but acknowledges the world doesn't always allow for full honesty - He mentions going to America due to fears for his safety, but denies censoring himself while there - Discusses the pain of losing family relationships due to his public persona and outspokenness 00:53:03 *🎾 Nota shares a personal story about his niece's death and its impact on him* - Nota's niece passed away before he could reconcile with her after a falling out - He expresses regret over not being able to attend her burial due to traditional customs - The loss of his niece made him reflect on the importance of family and the need to rebuild those relationships 01:09:54 *👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Nota discusses his family's history of poverty and how it has influenced his mission to rebuild family bonds.* - Nota's grandfather lost everything and was accused of witchcraft, leading to abject poverty for the family. - Despite the hardships, Nota's family values freedom of speech and the ability to self-correct. 01:24:36 *💰 Nota examines the history of reparations paid to African countries and how it has shaped their identity as victims.* - Reparations came in the form of interest-free loans, which were used to rebuild what was damaged. 01:25:17 *🌍 Nota discusses the need for open conversations between different groups in South Africa to move towards decolonization and social cohesion.* - Non-white groups in South Africa, including Indians, Coloureds, and Black Africans, should unite to have a proper dialogue about their shared experiences of colonization. 01:33:24 *🌍 Historical leadership and generational trauma* - Black leaders have historically sold out their people, leading to a lack of trust. - This generational trauma is ingrained in the DNA, causing paranoia. - Open dialogues and family therapy can help address these issues. 01:35:44 *💬 Need for honest national dialogue* - Tabi and AB's attempts at dialogue are met with skepticism due to their interests. - An honest conversation is necessary for progress. - People need to speak their truth and be heard. 01:36:27 *🎭 Chris Excel's influence and parody* - Chris Excel has built a large audience despite controversy. - His parody accounts have not launched personal attacks. - Chris Excel's influence has been beneficial for raising awareness about issues in South Africa. Made with HARPA AI

[@Penuelism]

Thank you very much for sharing this 🙏🏽

[@luciasmolale]

Watching from Kimberley. The City of Diamonds...two of the smartest Gents we have in the county ❤

[@dripbasemedia]

❤More Nota Please Pen... This was needed. We always learn when it's both of y'all ..

[@andilesimelane9884]

Truly learning a-lot from these interactions, especially for some of us living without guidance or mentorship, working 1000s of kilometres away from home, its truly insightful, keep going guys truly appreciate your efforts 🙏

[@lindagiftzwane8502]

Don’t want to lie i love seeing these two together. Real ones 🙌

[@Xw9669]

2 great minds. Loving this interview.

[@ThulaniMdakane-vt5wm]

Penuel my brother I am not happy with the sit-down with Nota you guys spoke for a small amount of time , you guys are a boom 💥 both of you, so much you could have been covered ahhhyi Pen ahhh we need him next sit down

[@GodForMe22]

Penuel and Nota 🧠🧠🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@sembachitibwi5211]

The is a segment where Nota spoke on him being dribbled by a young girl. It got me thinking, maybe have a discussion on whether a virgin holds any value in today's generation and what other benefits outside of sex does it come with if the are any.

[@fanelesibongemthethwa153]

Truth really does set us free without being emotional … more man like this…we have hope for our boys as black mothers

[@njabulomasina4180]

The authority 🙌.

[@muzidube6927]

Lol lol 😂😅 Pen you took down Nota episodes 😂. Glad you gents are back at it Please bring Rutendo back missing him as well

[@KamCoder]

I should say that this was the most important talk in the podcast history. Thank you Gentlemen, @ Mr Mlotshwa and Sir Baloyi.

[@KamCoder]

And one would think that I'm trying to sell this Episode but if we would face the real truth, this session was authentic to my view. I mean genuine laughs, moments of disclosure and the sadness captured is something one wouldn't fake or even rehearse

[@fanelesibongemthethwa153]

Power to my black brothers…the main Dawgz

[@kebone_Lakgotla17]

Observe the power of attentive listening as a skill...

[@olefilerabolele5160]

There is wisdom from the bible @godpenuel and @nota. Learn to speak the truth in love. I value truth, but it has to be delivered in love. Because only then, does it build the hearer of such truth

[@lyleswartz7196]

This is the best episode of Nota on the penuel show. Nota dropping gems. Especially about KO owing him money and his uncle working for The Ruperts. I can see the tension between nota and penuel. Penuel is not good at hiding his anger.

[@njabulongcobo1639]

K.O owing him? I must have missed that, I thought he said Yanga

[@jackthenga5452]

True, Pen is passive aggressive. Makes those in direct not so funny jokes in attempt to get back at Nota.

[@vusinkuna1989]

Thank you for this episode

[@shibeaubertin7585]

Pen!!! AMAZING work and conversation!

[@NdikhayeNetshiozwi]

I really hope that this episodes will be uploaded to Spotify and other podcast streaming platform.

[@chartneypuffs8646]

Watching from Lesotho🙌🏾i swear the bro is too relatable..standing up for my truth and being silenced by the family and telling them i have to play my part of else we will perish💔

[@SIMMPONGOSHE]

It must be difficult to maintain a conversation with someone like Nota. Panuel is very tolerant and patient...

[@unkle_nk]

"...When he went to school he use to write on his thigh with a thorn..." is wiiild 😅

[@banelezungu7058]

When he said "the more kids, you have the more you toning down"😂😂ey Nota, but great interview.

[@thekodiphuko3435]

One thing about Nota he understands the importance of unity.and he truly cares about people.

[@Kaybee_thegoat]

Great conversation good to see you guys reconciled maturity over pride

[@tawandamasumbikancube2274]

Heartfelt conversation

[@nydutch1609]

Could you maybe have Katlego from Citizen Concerned on some time?

[@KhelleRadeberg]

I very much appreciate minds that are like Nota, they force one to over think and have that self reflection that is honest. Hopefully he can trump the rape allegation charges.

[@sirnjabulomashiya4728]

Dope dope conversation guys 🔥🔥🔥

[@TheTopstax]

This is the most ive heard Nota laugh since i started listening to his podcasts regularly since his first appearance on The Hustler's Corner/Virtual Mkhukhu

[@lukhayagoniwe227]

In a long podcast, I always click the like button if someone has time stamps, before even listening to the podcast

[@Sage-jx7qk]

Haven't started to watch the show but i know there is some piece of knowledge to be dropped here

[@molefemashiane]

The broer firmly believes that he’s never wrong.

[@tefomolawa7950]

Great Konvosation

[@ThapeloMaxwellMabuza]

I disagree with Nota on making music black cause if those 40 million black Americans can listen to our music and enjoy it because is dope not because it's black then whites can listen to it And if black people can enjoy white music like Justin be &Adele then why whites cannot listen Thanks you Ai for taking my comment at the bottom 🎉

[@mzikayisembene9466]

Is it Possible to invite Nota-s Mother or His older sisters

[@nhlanhlanzimande4001]

Nota is something else 😊

[@NIUM_T_S]

It would make sense if the Friend from America is Charleston White😅, beautiful sit down gents

[@timeless9209]

We are here to catchup

[@DAMILENDAGANE]

Nota is KING...