The Pokemon Moves Lost To Time

Pokemon. It’s a game held close to many people’s dear hearts. Whether it be the blissful remembrance of simple, long-gone times, or the progression of the player’s journey being reflected in themself. But one core aspect in Pokemon that adds to its longevity is the almost endless sea of different moves, each with their own effect. However, there are some bound to be lost to time, forever stuck at the bottom of the ocean. And that’s what I want to focus on in this video. This is part 3 of this series where I discuss Pokemon’s most forgotten moves, as well as some cool facts about them!
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[@Blastosie_Offical]

Fun fact: i'm pretty sure that back in gen 3, there was a competition held, and the winner would be able to pick any Pokémon and have it given away as an event with any move it normally cannot learn. The winner chose Octazooka Sableye. I know that the Octazooka Sableye is real since i have one from that event, but i might be wrong on how it came to be. Still, if i'm right, that's pretty funny.

[@jjcelever]

This Sableye is from a Japanese morning entertainment kids' TV show! It's the host's favourite Pokémon, and on the show guests will get slimed / inked or something. Octazooka was supposed to reference that.

[@Laezar1]

I'd be like "Sketch Arceus"

[@theknightwithabadpictotall7639]

@@Laezar1 Back in gen 3

[@Laezar1]

@@theknightwithabadpictotall7639 True, initially I was going with "sketch mewtwo" but I thought arceus sold the idea better =p but yeah you're right

[@hlewis5217]

Magma Storm Wooper pls 😂

[@Shoeclock]

I remember begging my parents to take me to Barnes & Noble because there was a Ruby and Sapphire strategy guide there, and I brought a sheet of notebook paper with me to write down all the steps to get the Regis. 😂 Pre-internet days sure were something else...

[@SuperWiggler]

According to Bulbapedia, Crush Grip can be called by using Metronome as of version 1.3.0 of Sword and Shield, meaning it's not a lost move.

[@PrinceTalonSabre]

Regigigas *is* available in Crown Tundra DLC after all.

[@patrickgao849]

isn't it available in legends arceus, which can now be brought into scarlet and violet?

[@sonicrunn3r895]

I think Judgement is also possibly like this? I think it's usable in SWSH even though Arceus isn't

[@Breadstockimage]

​@@sonicrunn3r895judgment is also in Scarlet and Violet

[@mooganify]

I don’t think it was described as lost, just hard to get.

[@sleprvrru6y-lin-92]

Fun fact about octozooka, there was a gen 5 event sableye that came with octozooka, not many people know about it but so are a lot of gen 5 events.

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

I like events where they learn unique moves, but… really? What’s even the theming behind that?

[@lpfan4491]

Honestly, my favorite event is the movie victini that...well, had the signiture moves of the legendary dragons for absolutely 0 reason. Like literally no reason at all, that is not even a reference towards the movie besides for the fact that the dragons were major plotpoints in it.

[@sleprvrru6y-lin-92]

@@ragnaricstudios5888 i think the sableye was made to create the most annoying Pokemon possible (im serious) it had octozooka, some evasion moves and it held an item i think it was focus band or a berry from my memory. If you're interested in it im sure serebii has a page on it ! :)

[@sleprvrru6y-lin-92]

@@lpfan4491 i love that victini! Reminds me of the spacial rend roar of time darkrai lol from platinum?? I wanna say platinum. My memory is very bad sometimes!

[@botaniccal]

​@@lpfan4491 and then it was actually meta relevant because suddenly you had this small little creature running around dropping bolt strikes on people like it was no one's business

[@alexandercolefield9523]

I actually did all that stuff in 2008. I made a doubles team with Shaymin and Regigigas for Battle Revolution's wifi battles. Shaymin would Worry Seed Regi to get rid of slow start.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, I saw in a few videos that crush grip works pretty well in doubles

[@lincolneyar8269]

With how easy they give you Legendaries these days, I actually miss the old days like getting the Regis in Gen 3 and even the Sevii Islands in FRLG. Sure it was difficult to understand the Braille but it was the most satisfying thing to accomplish as a kid. It was the only time the encyclopedia set my family bought felt useful 😂😂 plus it felt like an actual adventure.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, it would be really cool if they made some of the newer legendaries an actual task to get

[@Matkin222]

The developers realized late that most wouldn't understand braille, so they put a braille guide in the little instruction booklet that came with the games.

[@neil5694]

If it's too hard for anybody, they can just search it up anyways 🤷‍♂️

[@waterierStone]

I like going to ember Island and catching moltres there instead of in victory road, but the Regis were just BS. Like they could have just made it so they opened up after the red/blue orb was stolen or something.

[@ianreed9638]

Regis seems easier than catching the Dogs.. also in RBY version you can easiy catch legedaries (legendary birds) so it's not a new thing that devs makes legendaries easier to catch..

[@kanonnen9]

Wide Slash is a complete lifesaver in the Mystery Dungeon games. Its a common TM that nearly every pokemon could learn and it was a very powerful move, especially if you lacked a move that hit the whole room. I remember that I always teached it to my main and it being typeless made it unresisted by anything. Definitely not a forgotten move in my book. Some shadow moves might be more obscure, just like the mentioned Vacuum-Cut, which was 10x as useless.

[@cultreader9751]

I couldn't get into the Mystery Dungeon games. The premise was too hard a sell.

[@Maaarrrrk]

​@cultreader9751 it was actually tms that are coded in the games

[@Hyper_Drud]

I think you got Vacuum-cut and Wide Slash reversed. VC hit all enemies in the room, Wide Slash just attacked the 3 spaces in front of you.

[@tails183]

I ginsenged the heck out of wide slash back in MD Blue. It really is one of the best moves in the entire game.

[@SonicEndouRed]

​@@cultreader9751"premise" motherfucker do you play a game or watch a fucking movie? get the fuck out of here , "premise" my ass, what an idiotic shit to say

[@koi9826]

love the odd and liminal vibes of these vids

[@Neosxt]

Right? It's almost soothing in a way.

[@dashingclasher]

its kinda creepy and saddening but also increasingly familiar

[@EmpoleMew]

Regigigas is level 1 in Platinum because an event distribution for a level 100 Regigigas was done with the game's release. Having it lets you catch the 3 Regis in Platinum, so the Regigigas you can catch is level 1 since you're expected to already have a level 100 one anyway.

[@onlyMAPSreplytome]

Secret key was first distribution event for platinum. Tf are you on about

[@LoinkLoink]

I honestly really like the level 1 Regigigas since it's viable for a playthrough. And a game where you can have a legendary on your team, one that isn't brutally strong is very nice. Not to mention how hype it is when you challenge the team leader and/or the mascot legendary with the colossal titan on your side.

[@bluebaron6811]

Gen 4 had the crappiest event unlocking methods of all time. When I was little, I thought Spiritomb and Rotom were Mythicals.

[@KevinEontrainer381]

And I thought the reason why Regigigas it at Lv.1 is because it has spent so much time as a statue that its as good as just being born anew when it wakes up

[@MarioMastar]

Actually it was done because they wanted the players to choose the level up set for it AND for lore reasons. Regigigas is an ancient collosus that' has been sealed for many many years. it doens't make sense for it to be at level 70 power when it's been dormant for so long, the moss growing on it's legs are part of it's design now. So they made it level one to indicate it doesn't have the power of it's prime.

[@gebis8515]

I think the reason why Excavate and Wide Slash are only translated in some languages comes down to different localisation teams. Some teams might have known they were unobtainable and gave them a dummy name, but others may have just translated everything, not realising the moves were unused. It is also possible they simply translated the moves regardless as a little exercise.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, I think they were removed very late in development, which is why they're half fleshed out

[@oucyan]

Actually, those 4 event moves aren't all bad. - Happy Hour doubles prize money earned, so combined with an amulet coin or Luck Incense, you can quadruple your earnings at the cost of wasting a turn in battle (and a move slot) - Hold Back is literally just False Swipe under another name, so while it's not great in battle, it's still great for putting wild pok'e mon in the red to make them easier to catch (barring ghost types since damaging normal moves can't hit them). - Hold Hands actually increases the user's friendship stat, so if the event pok'e mon happens to need friendship to evolve, it's quite useful. (useless on other pok'e mon though, outside maximizing friendship for the footprint ribbon). Not sure if it can be used outside of double battles though. If it does fail outside of double battles, then it makes it significantly less useful. - The only actually useless one is celebrate, since it has no in battle effect at all.

[@bullzeye399]

The Z-versions of all those status moves also raise each stat one stage, so they saw some niche usage in competitive.

[@hpswagcraft]

Celebrate is the coolest one though imo :3

[@oucyan]

@@hpswagcraft visually yeah

[@oucyan]

@@bullzeye399 yeah, as Woop mentioned in the vid

[@Hyper_Drud]

I believe Hold Back is special based unlike False Swipe. But that’s not saying much because it has the same base Power iirc.

[@RetirededKat]

I remember being so confused and frustrated with the Regi ruins when I played Ruby at 13. I tried everything I could think of for hours and eventually gave up. A few months later I was waiting for my foster parents to get done talking to my teacher and I was absentmindedly touching the bumps on the sign on my teacher's office door when I realized the bumps were arranged the same as the dots I'd seen. The next day I snuck my gameboy into school so I could try to find some kind of braille book that I could use to translate it, but I couldn't find anything. I asked the librarian and she offered to search it up on her computer and printed a copy for me. Easily the most satisfying puzzle I've ever solved.

[@salvatore_slate]

godlike story

[@DutchKidRanger]

W librarian

[@iss2075]

I don't know if you already mentioned this in a different video, but Kinesis was unobtainable in Red and Blue. It could only ever be called by Metronome. That's always been weird to me. I assume they must have forgotten to make it learnable. It was only first obtainable in Yellow when they added it to Kadabra's level-up moveset. But you know what is even crazier? It is ALSO unobtainable in Scarlet and Violet (but programmed into the game), and can only be called by Metronome, the same situation as the original games all those many years ago! If you are someone who has only ever played Red/Blue and Scarlet/Violet (I bet there's one person), then it's probably the most obscure move ever.

[@conarcoin]

the horror ambience of these videos is so funny to me with the actual subject matter. i'm kind of obsessed

[@GreatBeanicus]

Dude i still have my old notes on the regis in a binder in my room. I've got the braille including the alphabet that's in the first room, as well as all the translated slabs from emerald specifically. That was probably the most interesting puzzle I've ever seen in a pokemon game

[@PokemonWoop]

They definitely need to make more crazy puzzles like that in the newer games

[@pokedude720]

​@@PokemonWoopthey made a step in the right direction w/crown tundra

[@kalosianporygon]

Next time, I'd like to hear you mention a move so forgotten it's not even on list of most forgotten moves: Meditate, a Psychic-type Status move that increases the user's Attack by one stage.

[@kelp5801]

Lol I searched it and Meditate was since Gen 1!😲 I really thought it was introduced alongside Meditite and Medicham in Gen3. Never saw that move before that gen.

[@TheMightofDab]

Was playing the pokemon rocket rom hack today and had a mr mime use it against me lol

[@Elfking94]

​@@kelp5801wow same man, I was going to mention medichan too but gen 1? Wow

[@PokemonWoop]

Interesting how a psychic type move increases physical attack

[@iss2075]

Meditate might become a bit more famous again because Pokemon Stadium 2 has just came out, and Hitmonlee, one of the best rentals in the game, knows Meditate. The rest of the rentals are so bad I think a lot of people will have to use this Hitmonlee.

[@dorkenspache8353]

I think one of the biggest losses of them removing moves from the game was Foreseight. Like I think people don't get how useful it is when you need to use False Swipe on a Ghost type, especially a shiny Ghost type. Now people have to basically buy Legends Arceus in order to get access to Hisuian Decidueye with the hidden ability Scrappy and teach it False Swipe in order to weaken a Ghost type without killing it, which could easily be eliminated if they had just kept Foresight in the game since it can be learned by a wide variety of Pokemon

[@bb97979]

You can also soak ghosts that dont have water absorb.

[@Robin93k]

That's why a Golduck with Simple Beam (to change abilities), Soak (to change type), Hypnosis/Yawn (Sleep), Encore (to lock opponents into safe moves) and the Damp Ability (to prevent explosions before locking them out), is the best friend of any false Swipe User. Gallade + Golduck is the best catching combination since Gen 4, and has only gotten better over time. Literally, the only better combination is 2 Gallades and a Golduck! Gallade 1: False Swipe (duh~), Hypnosis(Sleep), Mean look (preventing flight), Encore/Taunt (to lock opponents into safe moves) Gallade 2: Encore (to keep Pokémon locked), Grudge (to deplete PP of problematic moves like Recoil moves), Heal Pulse (to prevent Recoil Users from suiciding), Taunt (to easier force Recoil users into using them to be grudged) Being once more only improved by adding another Gallade with Encore/Wish/Fling/Recycle holding a Leppa Berry... Simply said.. Gallade can do nearly everything you need to catch Pokémon as securely as possible, and the only things it can't do, Golduck can do!

[@twotamatos]

I mean I understand outta all the abilities pangoro or Kenga have even the mega I go for scrappy for that reason alone u can pretty much punch anything to death besides fairies and flying types

[@twotamatos]

@@Robin93k but simple beams is not a good ability to be used to change ur opponents abilities u can end up buffing them immesnly I used to think that’s all simple beams usages where but when u start looking into what the simple ability actually does unless u plan on casting simple n throwing a buncha sand or smoke in their eyes I would use gastro acid instead

[@twotamatos]

Funny enough I have a strat that can only be shut down by foresight and hidden power moves essentially! U use delcatty or skitty with normalize ability then u can use entrainment on mons around the field with say audino once everyone has normalize throw out gourgiest use trick or treat on audino then throw in mega Gengar shadow tag will allow no switching once every mon has normalize ability on opponents side they can’t hit u cuz ur ghost and all they have is normal type attacks making u invincible besides hidden power moves they always register as a normal type but hit as a different type so they work but only way out would be to use foresight and nobody runs that move besides I guess u XD

[@mjdxp5688]

Trump Card is kind of interesting because it's the only move that punishes you for maxing out its PP. The extra uses you get out of it are the same as the first use with 5PP, so you'd never want to max it out.

[@pixelpiekser]

I don't know if you have already mentioned them in prior Videos but there are also the Shadow Moves from Colosseum and XD. There is Shadow Rush, Blast, Blitz, Bolt, Break, Chill, Down, End, Fire, Half, Hold, Mist, Panic, Rave, Shed, Sky, Storm and Shadow Wave. These were revolutionary in the Way that they were the first Moves split into Special and Physical.

[@finnanima2413]

Also the fact that only Shadow Pokémon know them, they’re super effective against all non-Shadow Pokémon and not very effective against all Shadow Pokémon.

[@typemasters2871]

Hold Back is interesting, it can be given to a Pokemon that is not able to use false swipe Such as the event munchlax in gen 7, I played through the game with that event Munchlax and I have found using Snorlax to help catch certain Pokemon to be quite handy

[@DespianGrimmPaldea]

The Shiny Beldum given out at the first few months of ORAS was also an example of a Hold Back pokemon, but honestly I used that Beldum as a main stay and it became my Shiny Metagross that is stuck in my Omega Ruby game that is currently in storage.

[@n7x]

Wait can only the event snorlax have hold back? That means I have an exclusive event pokemon?

[@typemasters2871]

@@n7x that is right

[@adamj.cuthbert7528]

I guess the Shadow moves will be another video? There was only one Shadow move in Colosseum, Shadow Rush, which was basically a typeless version of Take Down that dealt neutral damage to all Pokémon. Gale of Darkness introduced more Shadow moves, such as Shadow Blast, Shadow Down, Shadow Half, and Shadow Sky, while also changing the effectiveness of Shadow moves so that they now dealt super-effective damage against non-Shadow Pokémon, while being resisted by Shadow Pokémon. Shadow moves could only be used by Shadow Pokémon, and once the Shadow Pokémon was purified it forgot any Shadow moves that it knew. A Shadow Pokémon could not be traded until it was purified (and was no longer a Shadow Pokémon), and hence Shadow moves were exclusive to the games in which they appeared.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, those are some interesting moves for sure

[@Glitchjar]

I did that regigigus thing when I was a kid I went to the library and matched the Braille from the book to the game for days and then when gen 4 came out all I had to do was transfer them and I ask shiny hunted the level 1 regigigus in platinum

[@PokemonWoop]

you're a legend

[@RyanReta97]

What's crazy is that they decided to get rid of so many moves in the games, meanwhile they decided to take Leech Life and turn it into an X Scissor that restores health

[@sweetheartmashupsbabe]

It’s a very big buff that the bug type needed. The bug type has a ton of great moves like X-scissor, leech life, quiver dance, bug buzz, etc. to make up for a lot of the Pokémon with the type not being very powerful

[@Lystafer]

Seeing clips from my own videos caught me off guard but otherwise great video! About moves exclusive to Mystery Dungeon games, it makes sense in some way that they were limited to PMD games since they were created with the Mystery dungeon gameplay in mind (notably Wide Slash which damages foes in front) though them being typeless moves is certainly a strange decision. Excavate would be a great example of a PMD move created for the game's exclusive mechanics (in this case being able to break walls [which can be very strong and useful] ) though it was most likely replaced by the already existing Rock Smash which (in PMD1) does virtually the same thing as Excavate. Same goes with Spin-Slash whose effect is the same as Cut. As for Vacuum-Cut, having a set damage move ( 35 in RT, 18 in Explorers) which damages all foes in the room is only useful in very specific scenarios (Monster House in level 1 dungeon and still...) and would be a bad forgotten move in a mainline game anyway. Besides with the introduction of new moves in later gens, Vaccuum-Cut was just redundant and a move no one knew of anyway... Overall, unique moves all around (damaging ??? type moves that almost all Mons can learn!) , but ones you've probably never heard of if you haven't played Mystery Dungeon games!

[@PokemonWoop]

Oh hey! I'm surprised you found this video lol. Thanks so much for the footage! Yeah, the mystery dungeon games had some interesting mechanics. I also noticed in another video that the orbs actually have corresponding moves, probably for debug purposes

[@TheTwistedTreant526]

I absolutely loved this series. I ADORED the dubious tone and the unsettling feeling You won a sub

[@ej-epicjourney5351]

The thing that makes Crush Grip so much worse is that it was introduced in the same Gen as Wring Out, which does the exact same thing but is learned by significantly more Pokémon.

[@EebstertheGreat]

It's not the same. Crush Grip is physical, while Wring Out is special. That's pretty important, since Regigigas's attack is double its special attack. That's also why it learns Giga Impact at 100 and not Hyper Beam. It's also better than Superpower against most full HP pokemon because Regigigas gets STAB from Crush Grip and not from Superpower. Honestly it's a good move.

[@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia]

4:20 This isn't true actually. In Pokemon XD, if Weather Ball is used during Shadow Sky, the move becomes ???-type

[@carlazuz3985]

There are other moves that do typeless damage in the series. Beat up and future sight in Gen 3, despite being labeled as dark and psychic respectively, do typeless damage. This is really good in beat up’s case since it’s good in competitive on a few Pokémon

[@PrinceTalonSabre]

Excavate and Spin Slash are news to me! I got surprised this time! Good vid :)

[@bobjoe3492]

Love the woop Edit: I solved the gen 3 regi puzzle without internet because my mom happens to be blind, so I wrote the braille down and had her help me solve it.

[@Laurzure]

Oh wow, that's an amazing story

[@MisterPancake778]

You should do more mysteries and obscure Pokemon facts with this type of format and editing style, its oddly comfy.

[@TrueLooneyman]

There iso ne move I know of, a newer one which I have not seen anyone use it to good effect and it may as well not exist sometimes. The move is called "Belch" Belch is a special poison move with 120 power, 90% accuracy and 10pp. The move is powerful, but has the catch that the user has to eat a berry in the battle before it can be used. This can be accomplished in three ways. Either holding a berry yourself and having the effect triggered, either stealing and eating the berry held by an opposing pokemon via Pluck or Bug Bite or if you gain a berry effect by being hit with Fling and the attacker throwing a berry.

[@Picollo860847]

Heh Octazooka can also be learned via breeding to the horsea line! Since Gen 2 too

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

If you dig far enough you'll eventually have to bring up momes like Feint Attack that got removed just to make room for a Signature Move version of it on a new Pokemon. Gonna be a rough one to work into a video though since there's not really a good explanation for it.

[@1stCallipostle]

Today I learned they removed feint attack.

[@salvatore_slate]

Faint Attack or Feint?

[@HellPhone]

Keep making content like this man! I love it.Oh and I was that kid who figured out Regigigas on his I left a comment on your video with the story.

[@PokemonWoop]

Hey, thanks so much! I saw your previous comment; crazy stuff :D

[@gabriellejacquiet9925]

Loved these videos so much!

[@BigPat216]

I love these videos, don't stop!

[@Ray3D]

Sky uppercut, Signal Beam and Pursuit are some of my favorite deleted moves.

[@zinzolin14]

Had a legit Regigigas back in the Gen 4 days. Having been a dedicated Pokémon fan before, it wasn't difficult to achieve this feat. Crush Grip was incredibly underwhelming however...

[@robunnygirl]

So actually fun fact about the last part of the video, I stumbled into the cave where you needed to learn braille to get access to the golems when my mom, who was going to a college for the deaf and hard of hearing at the time, happened to notice that it was braille and was confused on how it work for a blind person to use when the screen itself was flat which was my clue to unlock them. I swear this is one of my most fond memories of getting access to a legendary pokemon because I had to basically decipher a different language to a child out of the game. Bless that premier ball that caught Registeel.

[@CurmudgeonMedia]

love the style of your videos dude, fastest subscribe of my life

[@Ridley882]

Crush grip actually has another user. But the player can't use it. Oh, and Smeargle can sketch it too.

[@LordZemosa]

I'm losing myself over the vintage,VHS tape vibes ❤

[@LrnecBuma]

The curse of accuracy based moves is that they dare not make them powerful or accurate in case they ruin competetive. Spore literally won the finals this weekend and even i wondered maybe its time to knock it back 5-10 accuracy. Early games were intended for kids to play everyday with story telling moves that ad to the lore. But Gen 8 and 9 seam to of cut these to focus on competetive move sets. It starts at competetive moves and works its way back and cut out the flavour moves. It feels like we lost some fun

[@piplup2884]

Finally someone that talks about the secret ??? Moves

[@awesomeocelot7475]

I dunno why but I really like Rolling Kick and Octozooka.

[@philip9830]

I was surprised the move Rolling Kick was on the list. But to be fair, the only two games I still occasionally pick up are Crystal and Colosseum. Both have Hitmontop and especially in Colosseum, the move is used quite a bit more because there aren't many other options available.

[@ZakParkes]

Great vid, Keep it up!

[@nicocchi]

You know what's especially insulting about dexit? "This move can't be used. It's recommended that this move is forgotten. Once forgotten, this move can't be remembered. This special Pokémon that you got from a very limited event and has a really unique but admittedly used move with a fun animation is now forced to lose the only thing that makes it really unique"

[@slowdownex]

So about the last line in this video... I never thought about it like that before, but you are definitely correct. I was one of those kids. Although I didn't have enough stability or opportunity to participate in events, I did have these games, and enough interest in ciphers to translate and figure out the regi-quest. I guess in the moment I didn't I think about it that way, I was quite jealous of people whose parents helped them attend events, but when gen3 came around I guess all of us did what we could.

[@cautiouse]

Me and my cousin had Regigigas bc we absolutely loved gen 3 so we already had the Regis and then the classic ds having the game boy cartridge slot made it easy to transfer, but it was really funny seeing that mine was lv 70 (pearl) and his was lv 1

[@pault9544]

They should've gotten rid of splash and given magikarp an actual usable move that way you could actually train him to evolve rather than relying on Evs from your party.

[@Mienshaos]

If there's another video like this (they're really great, by the way), one obscure move I can think of is Vacuum Wave. Not many Pokemon learn it by level up, and it stopped being a tutor move after Gen 4

[@lolidk3379]

Awesome video! Feels a lot more cinematic

[@PokemonWoop]

Thanks! That was the aim

[@jbtom321]

Really good narration voice and information. Thank you from a new sub.

[@nicolasrobichaud-barrette238]

There is also the Water sport and Mud sport that i forgot existed and really only seen playing HGSS

[@visitjoan3158]

I remember Octazooka because I used it quite a bit when I first got Pearl.

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

Fun fact. Celebrate was once a used in a VCG tournament to stall for time.

[@fwant2729]

another entertaining video man keep it up

[@SebastianSchader]

9:39 man it's such a core childhood memory translating the Braille into "Relicanth first, Wailord last" and being like "the fuck is a Relicanth", Internet wasn't that common around where I lived back then so it took me some hours lol

[@TheAres1999]

5:00 I like the idea the super rare event moves have little effect in battle. That way it's not giving a massive advantage in the competitive scene to the few people who can obtain them. Instead, they just act as trophies.

[@CriAleMar]

Fun fact: Octozooka sees some play in Pokemon Go PVP as an option for Kingdra since its accuracy drop becomes a defense drop instead.

[@naturn3]

It’s a 2 stage attack drop for the opponent instead of defense. I hated that move but kingdra doesn’t see all that much play anymore

[@Youngapollo47]

one of the most underrated youtube channels i’ve ever seen, your consistent quality is that of a channel with hundreds of thousands of subs

[@hikarimemeirooficial]

Gamefreak basically introduced "Set Rotation" on pokemon games.

[@Justapikachu577]

Hold Hands is such a funny move, your pokemon just hold hands. It's adorable

[@richardm5664]

I did get Regigigas as a kid. I used the Pal Park to gradually send over everything from Sapphire, Emerald, and Firered. Those games themselves also had everything I'd caught and transferred over from Colosseum and XD so you can imagine how full the boxes on the PC were after that - almost every Pokemon in Pokedex order (never did 100% complete the 'dex though) and at least a full box of duplicate legendaries, pseudo legendaries and rare stuff. I did the Regigigas stuff on my own but never liked the Regis in general so didn't use them. Braille wasn't an issue as I had the manuals for Sapphire/Emerald and the "language" was printed in there so easy to reference

[@conlenodriscoll4464]

11:13 I’m that kid, I remember diving with the relicanth and wailord and the little room and the braille, but I don’t remember ever getting past that

[@IronFairy]

I used Hold Back so much back in ORAS, I got the shiny mystery gift Beldum and used it throughout my first playthrough! I still have it somewhere in my Pokémon Home.

[@asteroidrules]

As difficult as it is, I really like how you find the Regi trio in RSE. It reminds me of the Ruins of Alph mystery from Gen 2 but with an actually good reward, and unlike the overwhelming majority of hidden or mythical Pokémon there's no outside requirements. You don't need to get an item or trigger from a limited time event, you don't have to trade for them (except for Regigigas), yes it's hard to do, but it's still 100% possible to obtain them legitimately, the same can't be said for Latios/Latias, Darkrai, Ho-Oh, Mew, Celebi, etc.

[@piens51]

Yeah I prefer this puzle aproach better than modern way to obtain legends and mytics.

[@dvillines26]

it's the greatest puzzle/treasure hunt in the franchise, imo.

[@super8bitvideos]

ive been playing scarlet with randomized eggs and its amazing how many moves in that game are literally broken and actually say "this move does nothing, it should be deleted"

[@ActuallySpanky]

The only reason i know about excavate is because when i was younger i was friends with a gamestore owner, ds, wii, gamecube, anything older or vintage. and he had plenty of game sharks or whatever other things like that, and could do basically whatever they wanted, i saw them tunneling around in mystery dungeon at like 10 maybe, and was like "AYYYYO HOW DO YOU DO THAT??!?" and he said you unlock it after beating the game 😭 it wasnt till like a month later i saw him using a gameshark or something and asked about it, and he explained. that was also the only time i actually ever seen excavate i think, so thanks for helping me find some lost memories 😂

[@hocusmocus5901]

I feel like the shadow moves from Colosseum/XD also deserve a mention. They are completely typeless (and in XD only, they were super effective against all non-Shadow Pokémon) and can't be obtained outside of their respective games because Shadow Pokémon can't be traded. And since Game Freak has 100% forgotten about the Orre games, it's unlikely that they'll ever exist again. We didn't even get Shadow Rush back in Pokémon Go when they released Shadow Pokémon

[@definitelynotacrab7651]

But thanks to your efforts, there will always be a small memory of these moves in our minds

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Great video Was cool to see Spin-off games get a mention Wide Slash being ??? type makes me think of the new 19th Terra Type that they released recently

[@childmanmanboi4916]

Huh?

[@0G-Ghost]

What?! How did I miss a 19th TT?

[@CriAleMar]

​@@0G-GhostThey teased it at Pokemon Worlds for the Indigo Disc DLC. Probably exclusive to Terapagos

[@PokemonWoop]

That's interesting. The first ever legit ??? type Pokemon?

[@alessandromazzini7026]

Octazooka and Rolling kick going to 100% accuracy would make them very good

[@JadeMythriil]

Wide Slash was my go to move in PMD for crowd clearing especially in monster houses. I feel with the introduction of Brutal Swing Wode slash has mostly become redundant.

[@Pokemaniac_Nick]

I think wake-up slap is pretty forgotten or at least ignored too.

[@lammericium-241]

you can obtain the regis in gen 4 through an event distribution item (just use a time-preserving dns like wiimmfi or kaeru) instead of transferring from gen 3. theres also a level 100(?) regigigas through an event distribution too so you could have two regigigas on the same save file

[@lammericium-241]

regigigas is adorable but its sad that i cant bring my colossal behemoth to amity square

[@P0k3D0nd3M4cG]

Those fcked up my games. Even plat has the "saving a lot of data" bug now

[@bendonatier]

I feel like you're over playing regi gigas here. Back in the day that was just what pokemon was. Exploration, play ground rumors, co-operation. This was also back in a time before brail as a writing system was a joke, since we didn't have digital replacements. Most kids had access to brail translating resources.(I think there was even one in the manual just in case). I knew more kids with regi gigas than I knew kids with Milotic back in the day, to say nothing of what may as well have been the rarest pokemon for us back in the day, Vespiquin.

[@PokemonWoop]

Yeah, I loved how deep Game Freak sometimes wanted you to go to get certain things. I fondly remember putting honey on every tree in my old copy of Pearl and eagerly hoping for one of the rare Pokemon in the morning

[@jeremyf5904]

I can't believe you said hold hands doesn't do anything. It makes them very happy, it says it right there /j

[@darkthunder5097]

Your intro was too scary! I can't watch this late at night.

[@n1ck08gamer3]

2:28 In Pokémon GO, Kingdra also learns Octazooka, and I don't know why

[@placeholderplaceholder3448]

I know why Excavate is in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, it's a carryover from Shiren The Wanderer, another Mystery Dungeon series. In those games you could use a Rusty Pickaxe to break open a wall. This actually had a different animation than the IQ skills that broke walls, and the animation is similar to the Excavate move. I suspect Spin Slash is also a carryover but it's not in the Shiren game I'm most familiar with, The Tower of Fortune and the Dice of Fate, also called Shiren 5. That being said, the other Pokemon Mystery Dungeon exclusive moves, are directly in that game as well. I'm guessing Spin Slash is from Shiren 1 or 4, since the Shiren 1 remake was released around the same time as PMD Time/Darkness/Sky, and 4 was released not long after. Shiren 4 is Japanese-only, and Shiren 1 is notoriously rare in English, but Shiren 5 is on Switch/Steam/Mobile. Wide Slash is based off an attack type provided by the "Tri-Direction" rune, which is innately on the Breeze Blade. In Shiren 5, it was possible to transfer that attack type to other weapons by either fusing weapons with Mixer enemies or Synthesis Pots. Both methods fuse special effects and upgrade levels into the first weapon used in the craft, but Mixers also let you use consumables to apply otherwise rare and specific rune types. "Tri-Direction" doesn't have a consumable associated with it, so you have to use a Breeze Blade as material for it. Vacuum Cut/Slash (depends on the game, it's a translation thing, they all use the same animation) is taken from the Orb-equivalents of that game, Scrolls. Many of the other Scrolls exist as Orbs, and many of the Orbs not attached to moves are tied to secret unlearnable moves, and the Orbs just use them directly. Vacuum Cut was also fixed damage as a scroll in the Shiren games, similar to Blast Seeds, or as they're also called in the Shiren games, Dragon Grass. You can bless Dragon Grass to make it do 2x damage, or bless a Vacuum Cut scroll to use it twice, which makes it pretty good at nuking monster houses. Carryover mechanics are also why you can pick up Poke as an item by dashing to it and swapping, you can do that with money in the Shiren games and throwing them is a reliable fixed damage attack, with the damage being exactly 1/10th of the value of the stack in your inventory. In PMD throwing it does nothing special and enemies will catch and hold it as a held item. Also pot shenanigans can be used to dupe money in the Shiren games, which is an intentional feature, and Sale Scrolls generate the money they give you in your inventory directly.

[@VilasNil]

Hold Back Snorlax with Yawn was my main capture mon in Sun/Moon, it was great

[@kalosianporygon]

You forgot the Shadow moves, exclusive to the Orre duology.

[@Hyper_Drud]

From what I’ve seen of Excavate in your video, it looks like it and Spin Slash were removed for being redundant. Rock Smash already works like it, even not doing damage when used on enemies. That’s my take though.

[@rtr360josh7]

That kid who got crush grip on platinum was me. My older brother had pearl and I wanted a big broccoli man, so he told me that I had to get the Regis in emerald and told me vaguely where the underwater cave was. After catching the Regis, he told me how to get regigigas, but didn’t know it would be level one

[@WreckItRolfe]

Real 'Swift' is also lost. A great kind of move to have if you expected an opponent to fly or dig.

[@danielkrause1357]

An honorable mention is the move *Refresh* from gen3 but exclusively from Pokémon Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness(I'm not including shadow pokémon moves as they are exclusive to those GameCube games

[@greasygranpapy7529]

Octazooka should just get the accuracy lower effect set to 100%. It would still be a bad move, but there would be a niche justification for it at that point.

[@typhoonlava6488]

Horsea line used to have access with Octozooka too before it was abandoned off the face of the earth.....

[@alanv9700]

I was 100% that kid in 2008 getting regigigas. Just starting highschool and very bored during winter break. Was a fun time a long time ago. 😂

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

Showing the Mew with various Moves reminded me of a weird match I had on Pokémon Showdown. My opponent had Mythical, Legendary, and other strong Pokémon, but it became clear they no idea how to use them. They sent their Mew against my Vileplume, which should have been a terrible match-up for me. Psychic-type moves would have been super-effective against Vileplume, and Mew can learn various Ice-type and Fire-type moves which would have also been super-effective even without STAB. You know what move they used against my Vileplume? Aqua Tail. Freaking Aqua Tail against a freaking Vileplume. I knocked out their Mew with either Petal Dance or Petal Blizzard. When they got down to their last Pokémon, they tried to trick me into losing by inactivity. That stupid stunt didn’t work and they lost.

[@Infindox]

I mean, Happy Hour *does* do something, its pretty much an Amulet Coin in a move version. Though only worthwhile in game lol

[@natecgames4612]

Tbf for regigigas, it got easier to get them. I only know how to do it in the Gen 3 and 4 remakes, but for ORAS it was just the question of "how was I supposed to know to do this" by coming into the cave you caught regice with having all three other regies. And in BDSP they made the legendary park I forget the name of that let's you get the regies, albeit in a tedious fashion so that you can get gigas purely in game.

[@ZoofyZoof]

You made a mistake. Excavate isn't removed, it's been repurposed as an IQ Skill. It's the very last one you learn, allowing you to burrow through walls and make your own paths/tunnels. Spin Slash is also an early version of Cut, which does the exact same thing Spin Slash does.

[@andrewhe3949]

10:19 One funny thing in gen 4 is that you need regigigas to get the regice, registeel, and regirock, but you need regice, registeel, and regirock to get regigigas.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I remember being surprised mirror move was around as long as it was because I couldn't remember seeing it anymore after second gen

[@orktv4673]

I remember that one of my Pokémon learned Refresh in Pokémon Emerald, and I couldn't get it to work (I was like 9). I used it in a Pokémon Contest just to see its battle animation. Turns out it heals status, but that's still something not so useful to spend a moveslot on. I also found Beat Up to be very mysterious. Exclusive to Sneasel (at least back in Gen II, now a few handsful of Pokémon learn it) and with a mechanism that renders it practically unusable, it's best avoided. Bone Club and Bonemerang are also pretty forgettable. It's kind of wild how Marowak got three signature bone-related moves that no other Pokémon could use.

[@raddaradda8682]

I definitely did the regi events and the migration to gen 4 to get regigigas. Still one of my favorite pokemon, I just wish it were good lol