The POOREST Girl Group - The Margarines (Ft. former member Marie)

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Today we will be talking about The Margarines, a Jpop group with a weird concept - being in debt.
Thanks to former Margarines member, Marie! Check out her social media here:
- / daiteddychan
- / @marie_jjang
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[@ploopy678]

Get Cyberghost here: www.cyberghostvpn.com/Ploopy678 What did you think of the Margarines? Would you have been a fan? I think i would LOL cuz I love weird things 😅 Also, be sure to check out my full interview with Marie on my Patreon! She revealed tons of juicy details about how she got in the group etc. (Too much info to include in my video haha) www.patreon.com/members?membershipType=active_patron Check Marie's social media here: - instagram.com/daiteddychan/ - kzbin.info/door/_aP60vIDBfCoSk3fFmzZ6g

[@editsbygabby]

First! I would!

[@AngelicMilkyYT]

I would too!

[@Awakening_Sunshine]

The channel link doesn’t work here

[@ploopy678]

@@Awakening_Sunshine I've fixed it, sorry about that!

[@rainbowow5060]

I would be a fan!

[@demodemou]

the girl getting kicked to the ground for “laughs” is so degrading and infuriating..

[@aal1yah17]

Glad that Marie is out of debt and hope her and girls are living more easier lives now. I couldn't even bear to imagine how stressful it must've been for them.

[@bollaraggio]

I felt my heart drop when I heard that the members were forced to strip and be physically abused on camera. They really took advantage of these women's vulnerable position... I'm glad that all of them seem to be doing better now, but it's so unfair that the company never faced legal consequences for mistreating their artists. Thank you for such an interesting video!

[@terciopelo]

I'm glad she's exposing their mistreatment. Sadly many idols not just in japan have to go through similar things and a lot of idols are also in debt simply by going through the training process.

[@elangbam3115]

Not in k-pop

[@nightowl5211]

@@elangbam3115 it's on kpop too

[@elangbam3115]

@@nightowl5211 you are dead wrong

[@nightowl5211]

@@elangbam3115 You must be new K-pop fan. I was KPop fan for 11 years and already read a lot of news about trainee debt and sexual exploitation of KPop star. If you are interested about it,maybe you can start by reading news about boyband Omega X. Their management treat them so badly.

[@nightowl5211]

@@elangbam3115 There is also novel from Jessica, former member of SNSD called Shine. In this novel she also give a glimpse of brutality trainee life.

[@princkleminckle1159]

Their Wikipedia page is so lacking it only said "The Margarines were a Japanese idol girl group" 💀

[@myragingwhormoans]

wikipedia is such a bad source for asian idol groups 💀💀. idk why it lacks so much in that aspect

[@Louise-ls4jv]

@@myragingwhormoans It has more in the original languages usually (like for jpop in Japanese)

[@piratedokkyun4821]

Well at least not for J-pop wiki :v.

[@ForeverForty]

They added context now after Marie's interview hahaha

[@lian_9745]

How was there no legal action taken against this Saito producer?!?!! He literally ASSAULTED and EXPLOITED the girls!!!

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Because Japan is resistant to change when it comes to back end systems

[@sofiaw4654]

Japan entertainment industry is no less shady than Korean ones lmao kpop companies getting talked about more bc k-idols are more worldwide famous

[@handling_this_handle.-.]

He abused the host too, that man is a danger for society nothing more nothing less...

[@patrickonaleash1979]

imagine debuting in a group only to be given a position where you get slapped and hit

[@brandonx543]

now that you put it like that, that’s insane

[@voidmynk159]

Positions: Vocalist! Rapper! Main dancer! Abuse victim!- wait what-

[@TuberoseKisser]

People: *in severe debt* Idol industry: It's free workforce.

[@GuranPurin]

It doesn't seem to be uncommon that poor J-POP and K-POP groups are essentially threatened by debts to remain in the groups and end up being forced to do things they don't want to. But at least they generally get paid and don't have to resort to side-jobs, usually. This seems like a horrible experience. That said, it's good Marie doesn't regret her time there and it was a unique experience. I feel bad for the girl who was pretty much used for slapstick, though, so I hope she'd doing better.

[@kyokugo6460]

Fun fact: Yua Mikami, members of the KPOP group Honey Popcorn was also in the group some of The Margarine members moved too, Ebisu Muscats. Which was a very popular Adult Idol Group in Japan.

[@khusnulriadhi6374]

Or more like she also former member of one of from 48Group (HKT maybe) as Momota Kito (real name).

[@rhayssamartins4414]

What? I didn't know that, i thought she was just an jpop idol that debuted on *orn industry.

[@kyokugo6460]

@@khusnulriadhi6374 More Exactly, SKE48, But her artistic name is now Yua Mikami, Let's respect that🤗 BTW I mention EBISU MUSCATS since is related to the video while AKB48GROUP has no relation to the video🤗

[@kyokugo6460]

@@rhayssamartins4414 Yua Mikami has been in 3 groups at this point, SKE48, Ebisu Muscats and Honey Popcorn🤓 BTW even while in SKE48 she preffered to do more sexy concepts so I guess she woulda either ended doing Gravure or AV regardless, Since she apparently likes that line of work

[@rhayssamartins4414]

@@kyokugo6460 that's really cool to know, I saw a interview of her some years ago and she really seems to like this kind of thing. The first time i heard about Yua was bc of honey popcorn, actually. It's not my favorite group concept but the songs were pretty good. Too bad the group disbanded.

[@zuhasyunjin]

what a horrible environment, so glad marie seems to be doing well now i hope the other members are as well!

[@katie5920]

I hope all the members are in a much better place, especially the one constantly being hit. It's so disgusting that they would treat them like that, I wish those in charge faced consequences for mistreatment.

[@joshhale9355]

Hearing about what Saito was doing to them and how he exploited them for fun was really REALLY gross. Just straight up physically abusing them (I’m sure emotional, mental, and financial abuse happened) for funsies is just hard to see. The fact they knew they’d have to take their clothes off when he showed up is enough to make your stomach turn.

[@sakuraa1770]

My gosh, these women got abused on camera and the company did jack all to even help them even get a few dollars.

[@snowmoon192]

whenever she says "surely _______, right?" we know that the exact opposite has happened

[@sophialiu4043]

So true!

[@scottietrademark]

This group makes me think of this new Korean survival show called Button Game. A former MIXX member is joining with $50k USD in debt with hospital bills. 9 people are going to compete with their survival skills to win money to pay off their debt. It's crazy that these companies can make "entertainment" out of people's struggles and misery.

[@ploopy678]

Wow, that is crazy! Definitely going to read up more on this show!

[@puffhopem591]

@@ploopy678 can u make an episode on it

[@elangbam3115]

Is the show release?

[@princesskatie4467]

I thought you said NMIXX and I was going to be so sad ☹️

[@anti_fragile]

I guess the producers didn't understand that Squid Game was meant to criticize the state of Korean society and the financial state of Korean citizens and not something to imitate

[@findingwhimsy]

I heard about this group years ago but it's so disappointing to hear how they were treated. Also, why would director Saito create this group if he was just going to sabotage them with his shit leadership? The promotion decisions made were so bad.

[@miss_jess]

that group manager sounds like a mega creep

[@skaisnotdead]

I think it could have been successful, plenty of social media influencers make it big with less direction. BUT as per usual a bunch of greedy men in the music industry exploited them and ruined everything.

[@aprilioa3849]

i hope that girl whose responsibility was to be abused is living happily now, i feel really bad for her :(

[@arminkblink]

I really think the girls could've become successful in paying off their debts and maybe even earn extra money for a living by the management making right promoting decisions. But quiet the opposite, the management crew destroyed the group's chances to become successful. I feel like the girls themselves, without the crew and the company could've become successful itself. And being sexualy harrased and being hit and kicked and abused on camera is so disgusting. It's sad to see that the margarines did not see the bright future they were expecting.

[@jmac356]

It was a scam. This concept could have been done by 9 girls forming amongst themselves, but it wasn't.

[@jordan-dv8wu]

when i heard that they were women in debt i knew this was gonna be about them holding this over their head, i really hoped that i was wrong and they could've paid their debt with a fun experiment but it's so disappointing how predictable men in power are

[@kyla8386]

Pretty sure forcing someone to strip on livestream for free for their “job” is a form of sexual slavery. I’m sure the company was making money off it

[@neversenever591]

I love how you explore such niche and underground topics. It always surprises me how interesting you can make these videos and how much information you can find

[@cuteacule]

“Finical Troubles“ the perfect opening

[@Gowonisfeliznavidad]

😏

[@Guanlezg0]

I really hope all the women who auditioned for the margarines are fine now

[@lumi_project]

another example that Japan is not all shine and rainbow

[@shellyb3127]

Awesome video! Also Marie seems like a great person, glad she is out of that mess now

[@winterrrrrrr]

4:55 are we not gonna talk about the girl in a bondage rope 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@hypeb0yyonyt]

Everything started wrong when they named themselves as the margarines like lmao

[@cuckoophendula8211]

Oh my gosh, this reminds me of this one infamous Simpsons episode when Homer was so desperate for cash that he became his boss's "prank monkey" essentially selling his dignity doing whatever his boss wanted.

[@richardc5100]

Another ploopy video? Today is going to be a great day.

[@ploopy678]

Hope you enjoyed it!😊

[@richardc5100]

Loved it

[@davespriter]

i think the margarines couldve had a chance for some small success if the girls were allowed to market themselves.

[@Sanas_Shy_Language]

The outfit you wore for the sponsor was absolutely stunning on you!

[@blueprintsymphonic]

You make really interesting videos

[@daniswara1164]

Here in Indonesia people who don't have money butter up their bread with margarine since only the rich people use real butter. Now their name makes sense right??

[@hslpt3]

honestly i would go for margarine over butter anyday simply because i just don't like butter/most dairy stuffs. in fact, if i see anything promoted with 'premium butter' as tagline(which people in my country love promoting everything with premium/imported/expensive/viral tags) it's immediately a no for me.

[@user-vp7dk3vj3e]

I absolutely LOVE your videos please keep them coming 💕😍

[@kpopluver0494]

Great video! You always find the best topics!

[@smittythagreat93]

I dig your channel. The visuals are nice too.

[@blessmeachoomarkmadcity6773]

i was just scrolling through your channel then i saw you upload something! Great video!

[@ana2012321]

Finally I’m early here!!! I love your videos!!! Keep going!!! Ploopy, fighting!!! Fan here and Love from Brazil!!! 😱😍✨😘👊👏❤️💜🇧🇷

[@siamesecatlover3679]

You should make a podcast. Your videos are really interesting and I think a lot of people would like to be able to listen while doing other things

[@Sunnydoll414]

Random comment nothing to do with the actual video but I’m just so excited for when you hopefully make the third part of your end of year kpop debuts they are some of my favorite videos of yours love your videos ❤️

[@Mitsu92]

Another fantastic video! So cool to hear from Marie herself and her personal experience. But please please PLEASE fix your screechy/peaking audio! Your stories are both intriguing and educational so I wanna hear but the high peaking mic makes it so difficult to listen in the long run and sometimes even gives me a headache. I could only keep the headset on one ear cause the other screeched so bad at times. It could cause real problems for those hard of hearing or that have sensory issues as well. Otherwise, keep up the good work!

[@ploopy678]

I am working on it! I previously bought a mic but sadly it wasn't compatible with my phone (which I film with) 😥 so I'm currently saving up for a webcam!

[@Mitsu92]

@@ploopy678 Oof, that's a bummer. I know the feeling, I went through something similar with my camera.. 😣 I hope you can find a good webcam/mic that works for you! Luckily Christmas season is around the corner so there's always the possibility to get lucky and find something for cheap~ 👀 (No pressure btw, just a tip!) Thank you for taking time to respond to my comment. Keep up the good work! 😁👍

[@itsxrn]

The queen has posted!💅🏻

[@PedroPony833]

Your production quality is insanely impressive in your videos. Not only are they very informative but the editing is on point. Keep up the great work!!

[@aridian7787]

Excellent presentation Ploopy!👍🙌👏👏🇺🇸

[@joelreyes4237]

This is crazy with this group. They would have more debt if they stay the group but I hope that they pay off their debts. I love your videos Evangeline and you always beautiful

[@crystalleyvonne818]

Now why would they name them after I cant believe it's not butter

[@80lala08]

this honestly disgusting, imagine being lured into a management company that strips you forcefully and doesn't even pay you their situation seemed worse than prostitutes :(

[@AquaRunner533]

This made me realized I don't want go to college anymore

[@z_z7976]

You could do community college or trade school. It might be more affordable and worth looking into.

[@asyla5690]

It makes me so angry and furious that people hit these girls just for “entertainment”, it’s so fucking disgusting. so glad they’re okay.

[@lordebola9472]

Wow that's insane! It's not even so long ago, these companies are so fucking scummy! The part with the tv show where they were slapping this girl really disgusted me, how could that even be accepted, it blows my mind.

[@remuspierre7573]

Music before I'm gonna check them out

[@Yvesxrh]

Besties, ploopy posted❤

[@Sheepy16able]

They had a German member?? Cool :) I`m German too :)

[@elmin82]

omg really feel sorry for these girls

[@freakyold]

It would have been more entertaining if the girls, while wearing bikinis, turned on Saito and beat him up live and humiliated him in other ways.

[@phrhann]

Love your videos!!

[@Jieuns_Flori]

The idea is really fun and cool but the idols needed to be in charge

[@dnaflowz]

I don’t think many Japanese girl groups do the agencies care if they can sing or dance. I don’t even think for AKB48 when reading about them they cared about vocals or dance.

[@ATWTMVTVFTVSGAVRALPS]

Those green outfits are reminiscent to those from Squid game 😟

[@mingisbbygrl]

He was disgusting! How can you treat people like this?!

[@a.evelyn5498]

I can’t believe some Kpop idols currently do not make any money… it’s understandable when it’s a small company & the group absolutely ranks (although it is EQUALLY DEVASTATING for the individuals who have given up so much of their lives, most often leaving school to attend training & follow their dreams only to be met with failure & even debt). When from larger companies, it’s a bigger shock, like BlockBerry Creative, which IS WHAT IT IS due to Loona yet the girls have received nothing. I can’t believe it…… & yet I can… the Loona members have not seen a single can’t since debut in October 2016 (!!!) & Chuu hasn’t received anything from all of her solo work. I don’t follow Loona closely, though I have a few songs I like very much. I understand that the company utilized a tremendous amount of money on the group / girls, but to see NOTHING whatsoever? That’s entirely unethical & I don’t care about whatever one says to the opposite. This. Is. NOT. Right! BBE is evidently handling their finances incorrectly & I bet there are some VERY greedy board members at the company. It’s heartbreaking for them. No wonder Chuu left.

[@forthewin4063]

What sort of concept is that!! 😱

[@mikimatsubara2057]

Very interesting documentary but it's funny and sad at the same time. 😆

[@joseph3720j]

gosh it's so disturbing that they were being forced to do something inappropriate only for paying the debt. i mean a lot of jpop idol doing gravure but I'm fine with that since they're not being forced. but forcing someone to do gravure while they don't want to is just.. disturbing and inhumane

[@Forever.always.3]

When she was sponsoring the VPN I heard Hong Kong and I was like “why are they saying my country?” And I realized my favorite KZbinr lives in my country

[@HH-rv7yw]

That's hilarious but I feel really bad for the girls who had large debts.

[@sjjaewon]

How the hell...was a comedian and a director able to form a Jpop group?

[@Queen-dl5ju]

even with kpop today.. i still dont know why they stream on vlive so much and never have a donation button.... people would be willing to donate a ton of money to idols... much better than donating to these freaking gamers who are making millions... its baffling

[@user-hd2tx6fx3e]

When I heard their name "the margrines" I immediately thought of the spread

[@carrieheartsmusic6797]

This is so funny but sad at the same time ....

[@remuspierre7573]

Amazing topics

[@swk48shanehosty14]

I feel bad for all the idol that being treated like this

[@maaduufan5140]

When i 1st heard of this group, I saw video of them handling flyers on the street. I thought 'cool, like how Morning Musume was formed' but later on things went downhill. you have to be extra special to sell that many copies being an underground idol. I hated how some members were kicked around for comedic value. It happened to major jpop idol too (eg Momochi). I hate how backward the comedy scene in Japan.

[@jx1913]

I love your videos

[@user-pb3xf8qh1f]

i really like your account~ thank you for this new video ~~💖

[@MarkOfKeys]

So the girls busking to promote themselves was beneath the company, but being forced to strip on camera wasn't?

[@um-bi5pp]

Busking is seen as underground idol activities but gravure modelling is done idols of all popularities

[@benbridges5720]

It started so promising. It sounded like a story about caring for the poor, afterwards it crushes your soul and makes you lose faith in humanity again. The company leader should be sued and charged with assault. Also, yes I think it could have been successful.

[@edotori091]

This reminds me of some of the things I saw on AKBingo. Not as bad as the stripping part but the girls' bodies were always being evaluated in weird ways (best legs, chest, etc.)

[@BillyWhaler]

I was a little disappointed with my Margarines lightstick built from cardboard, duct tape and a votive candle. This concept could work in the states with an Andy Kaufman deadpan approach - no skills, no knowledge of lack of skills, and all business about the craft.

[@jinghuin7515]

“Nonono, that’s not how we do things around here, we gotta do things The Old Way™️.” Sounds like Japan, alright.

[@priestrat]

I wish I wouldve known about them! I wouldve supported them for suuuure. I think their songs sound pretty good tbh o: at least from the few clips shown in this video Edit: oh goooood the rest of the video is so shocking, I take it back i would not have supported that :( the poor girls

[@Rouge_Ice]

Ohhhhh a new video! I'm gonna comment first before watching 😁

[@Gigi-nm3si]

Loona be like

[@aradiyanah5119]

Can you make one video about boys24? I was a fan but even me cannot fully understand their system of the survival show. This is also unlucky survival show, I think none of contestants can be considered successful or popular

[@itsxrn]

I just wanna say that the views changed now!! it's now at 39k, I'm sure YT fixed it or something!!

[@Straw_cherry]

Its 37k now😅😅

[@UKIISSFan]

This also happens with Thai BL actors, some of them decide to play the roles because they have debts or are poor so they see it as an opportunity even though some of them aren't even gay

[@serenatsukino5252]

The producers disgust me. How can you get mad at someone for not wanting to be hit? And I don't like that he made them strip. It would be one thing, if they actually wanted to do it, but if someone is uncomfortable with it, don't force them. And keep in mind, this is Japan. The women there are dressed more conservatively. So there's a good chance these women were uncomfortable in their bikinis.

[@elaineoh3984]

I see where Liar Game and Kaiji get their inspiration from 😅

[@AlexaAriGo]

I love your vids but I hate that I cannot watch them with headphones because there is some kind of distortion on the right every few words you say. Would be great if you could check you mic for damage and maybe get a new one :')

[@AdeeleJSarap]

One minute late!!! But still one of the first. :)

[@nerd23x]

It's giving DR Music with "Blackswan" HAHAHA

[@wasabimiyuki7641]

Just when you think thing couldn’t get any weirder in Japan…

[@PinkSoldier2009]

13:44 OMG!!! That’s horrible! 😮😩

[@dmitrykim3096]

Better chances than squid game has

[@remuspierre7573]

They have amazing songs I can dance too

[@monsta6501]

Found a quote recently that perfectly describes this channel, "Go idolize your idle life then criticize me." Figure it out "KPOP FAN".