The PROBLEM with a DEGREE in "Entrepreneurship" (the good idea degree)

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Better.com video tomorrow. Been waiting for a while.

[@UncleT0ny]

Was just about to message you. Haha

[@Erik_The_Viking]

I was waiting for that! Grabbing more popcorn.

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

Can’t wait

[@crypticutopia7228]

Oh yes let's go mate

[@jermainemyrn19]

Saw the article. They're failing bad lol

[@UMNightlife]

As someone who has this exact degree, I can tell you that this is 100% accurate.

[@ChrisAthanas]

Are you gonna sue for a refund? I would because they scammed you

[@ChrisAthanas]

@DDrummer how's that? I don't even have a degree and do that work and I'm making $185k/yr

[@wimeatsworld]

@@ChrisAthanas what do you do? Sounds interesting from the reward point of view.

[@willn8664]

@@wimeatsworld onlyfans.....

[@ChrisAthanas]

@@wimeatsworld I'm a software engineer. Right now I'm working on a React-native app on the Android side.

[@michelhanson1500]

The irony should be lost on any student that goes to college to learn entrepreneurship

[@ee214verilogtutorial2]

This course was probably created by an entrepreneur professor

[@UMNightlife]

@@ee214verilogtutorial2 It was.

[@UMNightlife]

I went to college to start a company but also learn what I could, it is all what you make of it.

[@michelhanson1500]

@@UMNightlife you win as long as you are seeing a great return of investment. Many others though.....well, not so lucky.

[@UMNightlife]

@@michelhanson1500 Agreed.

[@blaisetelfer8499]

0:21 "100% placement rate" is a red flag. That means either, the school has a deal with companies to hook them up with cheap employees (the recent graduates), or they count literally any crappy low-wage job you get after graduating in their placement rate.

[@retardbuster1498]

Sounds too good to be true doesn't it...anyone with common sense definitely wouldn't believe that at first glance without proof

[@Seattle-2017]

This reminds me of this "sales" guy I used to work with. He claims he could "Sell ice to an Eskimo". The thing is, he didn't know the first thing about what he was trying to sell or how to put together a sales proposal, it was just stupid sales tricks, dollar figures and empty "guarantees". We'd always have to hold his hand whenever, during a sales pitch, the client asked a moderately challenging question. Moral of the story: in order to be an entrepreneur, you have the KNOW what the hell the product or service is first, why you want to sell it, and what makes you better than anyone else.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

I have noticed that people who are arrogant, usually have nothing to be arrogant about.

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

No you don't. You've completely missed the point the sales bro was making. If he's bringing in the $$, he doesn't need to know the nerdy details. At all. He has you to cover for him.

[@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock]

You are the enslaved nerd that will work eighty hour weeks to deliver the product. That's what he's selling. And if you're honest about it, that's why you hate him

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock I disagree. If in technical sales you definitely need to know what you are talking about in order to sell. If you are selling not technical things ( industry term), then yes you can probably get by without knowing " nerdy things", about the product. Not knowing how to write proposals is an issue no matter how you slice it, unless you have someone to do it for you. Either way though, your response indicates that you have some suppressed anger about the whole situation.

[@Seattle-2017]

@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock "He has you to cover for him"... UNTIL HE DOESN'T, and then he's screwed. When the technical "nerdy details" guy who does all the work, decides that he's NOT going to cover for the know-nothing salesman, then it's "game over" for the salesman. And that's EXACTLY what happened at this place I worked - we (the owner and me) just cut the useless sales guy out of the equation, and we did the sales calls ourselves. Our sales close rate was just as good or better, and we cut some useless overhead.

[@TheLazyEconomist]

Ah. This is my favorite series on this channel. Keeps things in perspective while at college.

[@davidellis5141]

Entrepreneurs , " They make money the old fashioned way , they earn it ! " 😆

[@Apollo-vh3tb]

IMO, they should have classes at community colleges for stuff like this instead of having an actual degree. People need to demand more (experience, professional certifications, ect) from colleges. I think that the entire college model needs to change immediately. There are way too many degrees that will just cost you money.

[@kisstune]

THIS just take courses in what you need and not get a degree. Take like the accounting, programming, business law, employment managing etc. just whatever you need and skip the BS classes for the degree.

[@user-bg3rp2qj5b]

@@kisstune so workshop’s, no college

[@kisstune]

@@user-bg3rp2qj5b pretty much. Learn more useful information from seminars/conferences/conventions then college anyways.

[@ms_cartographer]

It would be nice to get rid of gen ed requirements. Why do I need to take another English class when I'm going into STEM? I already took English for four years in high school.

[@LuminousWhispers11]

@@ms_cartographer I wish I could double like your comment. Funny enough they act like they are doing you a favor. The only place I have seen that isn't all business is the Cyber Mentor academy.

[@ajr993]

The only way a business degree would be useful is if it went into tax law, business regulations, exim compliance, commodities, investment fundamentals, key business technologies and future technologies, interviewing/hiring/training techniques, predictive forecasting of business trends, commercial real estate, etc. But looking at those topics I didn't see anything practical that you would really need to start a big business.

[@kisstune]

THIS.

[@johnjones-yt8rt]

Some of those are sketchy.

[@se2664]

Yes and how to file your taxes as self employed

[@saywhatnow57]

@@se2664 I've been self-employed most of my career. I've never filed my own taxes. It's 100% worth the money to pay an accountant.

[@NeoDragonKnight]

I remember taking a free Entrepreneur course on Coursera almost 10 years ago. It was soooo garbage, filled with buzzwords and no substance, not only that but the "teacher" kept pushing his crappy Entrepreneur book and paid course constantly. Contrasted to an amazing Gamification course I took there which was amazing and no pushy agenda. Entrepreneur courses as you said are just pure BS.

[@MidnightBliss]

"BS" lol like "bachelor of science" 😂

[@NaturalBeauty214]

The USA needs a serious secondary education reform... too much money, time, and wasted resources on young adults who generally have no clue what they want to do or become while burying themselves in debt.

[@Marco-Polo007]

That's the point of it. Welcome to the system of slavery by debt

[@jasonforsyth5015]

Ha, fools. Not like me and my advanced diploma in aviation management. Ahh, being a baggage handler is fun!

[@Helicopterpilot16]

I miss fueling myself. Aviation Management; not sure where but that area seems to be far more elitist than a monarchy. Need to be related to the director of operations just to even be part of the airports snow removal team.

[@me0101001000]

I think business degrees, in general, are an auxillary degree to whatever else you're going to be doing. My business minor became an enhancer for my engineering work. This is just my opinion based on my experience. I'm sure others have different experiences.

[@icemans1matedude339]

Thats the exact attitude i have actually, its a set of skills that make an already strong build, pop off

[@icemans1matedude339]

But yeah my major is computer engineering, though i have skills in python, c#, and hardware and have a minor in entrepreneurship, though this was more or less to add on to my existing skills and not be my main driver.

[@NickOloteo]

I agree for all but accounting. That’s more specialized

[@me0101001000]

@@NickOloteo I 100% agree. Marketing is covered within many programs in communications. Innovation is covered quite well in most fields of engineering. But accounting is its own beast.

[@freshswagga100]

I got marketing degree just so I could get an easy degree

[@_baller]

Don't worry Josh I know a girl who is a director in marketing at a top company at only 30 years old and majored in sociology....but it was NYU, companies stop traffic for that prestige

[@bm1006]

I met a hedge fund analyst who had a sociology degree. Connections matter.

[@Gotham.Public.Library]

Exactly...this is like saying you can get into Google as a coder with a high school diploma. That might be true but you won't become a senior product manager at Google with a high school diploma. Some people just don't get that part. One can build an app in their basement, but if that app has to be supported by Apple, endorsed by Kylie Jenner and funded by J P Morgan...one needs a Bachelors in Entrepreneurship from an Ivy.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@Gotham.Public.Library Or you can figure out where the JPM guys party and go party with them.

[@Gotham.Public.Library]

@@jeffshackleford3152 well you can party with him all you want..but when you pitch him the idea..it's gonna be a hard pass. The minute you enter the board and say I want 4 Mil USD for 20% equity for an app I've created and oh by the way I'm a high school drop out. The JP Morgan guy will pretend he doesn't know you and his colleagues will laugh and say "We'll get back to you". That will be the last time you hear from them.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@Gotham.Public.Library No man, you don't do it with JPM, you use the banker and his connections to get your money. You don't go through the people at JPM.

[@blueice3124]

It's hard to say, you definitely don't need a degree for this but you don't need the skills to create those products either. If you look into it a lot of CEOs can't create/engineer, they have business degrees and backgrounds in running corporations/leadership so they hire those devs engineers marketing experts etc... Spending time developing those skills can so much take time by the point you are good enough to create you're late and your competitor beat you to it so it's better to get a team that already possesses those skills and put them to work.

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Most successful founders usually form the initial prototype themselves or a with a select few other people that have the skills needed to make an MVP. Then they grow and move away to a high level position.

[@kaelyn1]

this makes sense, i wonder what Joshua's response would be, i'd love to know genuinely his take on this

[@ThingsILikke]

Entrepreneurs are risk takers that if they are good can make a product /service real and brand it well and market it to the public. In my experience as an entrepreneur, we are people who find an interest, keep our ears to the ground and sniff out opportunities and spend money and time to make it happen fast. Then we either sell the company or take it public (I haven’t done that.) You really don’t need a degree for that- your success makes people invest in you.

[@Littllebabydoll]

Honestly I just find the entire college & employment system in America extremely frustrating. Even with a serious amount of extracurricular that applies to the job. They still want you to have "in house experience" per se. Like why.

[@Xavier-eg8nq]

Because of money, if your asking why it mostly always about money

[@_nimrod92]

duh American employers are cheapskates and entitled thats why. I want the best talent for dollar tree prices.

[@Canoby]

Oh cool, my Communications and Media Studies degree suddenly looks a lot more useful

[@Bando710]

bro right

[@ThinkBeFree99]

I know people with those degrees that make bank and are happy in life. So those seem legit.

[@Canoby]

@@ThinkBeFree99 It's more of a meme surrounding the degree. I've never regretted getting it

[@LLCoolJ_25]

I knew a woman who graduated from university back in 2019 with this degree. She got a job at a news station 6 months later.

[@Canoby]

@@LLCoolJ_25 Yeah, if you want to get into broadcasting or advertising (not what I wanted to do), it's really a great degree for that. I ended up getting into IT, so while that wasn't as great as getting a computer science etc. degree, just having a bachelor's of most kinds will at least show employers you have a brain and discipline.

[@vulpixelful]

The degree itself is dubious, and this doesn't seem like it's about the degree as much as it is about the amenities. Which is pretty much every uni which is why tuition keeps going up (along with paying college football coaches $1mill+ salaries...).

[@bonemar66]

A degree in entrepreneurship is akin to the honorary degree in Thinkology the wizard of Oz gave the scarecrow.

[@TheSoulCrisis]

🤣😂

[@ms_cartographer]

A gender studies degree sounds more useful than a bachelor's in entrepreneurship.

[@derekwhite8196]

can't agree

[@crypticutopia7228]

@@derekwhite8196 Yeah can't agree either. A fucken bachelor of arts is still more useful than a gender studies degree🤣

[@Roescoe]

At least you might become a professor of gender studies. You'll never be an entrepreneur if you're learning the very opposite. And there's not an entrepreneur prof position.

[@simonebernacchia]

The Gender studies degree is as useful as a bicycle for a fish while a bachelor in entrepreneurship is as useful as a license to sell refrigerators to eskimo people

[@marcogenovesi8570]

yeah you can at least get a careeer in politcs or become an influencer with that

[@justinwhite2725]

I took an entrepreneurship class (was free - funded by the province of Alberta). But we had to already had to have a business idea. It was about working for yourself, how to rent commercial property, writing a business plan, etc. The not for profit thst ran it also offered business loans (separate department) thst looked at the business plan you made in the course. Was pretty good. Nothing like what's being described in this video, though.

[@princessmarlena1359]

I got my PhD. in Thinkology. “The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side!”.

[@adambrown9048]

Great allusion!

[@ms_cartographer]

Nonprofit and NGO studies. Northern Illinois University offers this degree, and it's all about working for non-profits. Why do you need a degree in NGO studies to learn how to work for a non-profit? Wouldn't a business degree be enough?

[@ms_cartographer]

It just seems too narrow of a degree that doesn't seem to teach any tangible skills for specific jobs that you could get. Like, you could study marketing and work in the marketing department of a non-profit. Or, accounting and finance to work in that sector. Where else could the NGO major actually be applied? At least with a business degree, Marketing, CS, GIS, and engineering, those degrees could branch off into multiple areas.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Hey, you! Hope you are doing well! Long time, no see!

[@tomcollier1769]

Non-profit is a tax classification, not a style of management. I know whereof I speak after 40-years of managing non-profit 501(c)(3) organizations. You still have to make payroll and keep the lights on. And that means ensuring that you have excess of revenue (aka profit in the "real" biz world) over expenses each year.

[@ccricers]

This reminds me of a participant in the show Shark Tank that talked about their background before the sales pitch. They felt ready to start their first business but only after teaching a class on entrepreneurship for a few years. Get that, they were teaching students how to run a business BEFORE they started trying to run a business themselves. It was all backwards.

[@snapcentrel]

Thank you for this information I am going to talk to my advisor to switch my major I have to think harder when picking a major thank you!

[@YoutubeStandardLicense]

I just finished a MSc in artificial intelligence with a dissertation on deep reinforcement learning. I feel like it was a pointless degree as there is no real jobs in it.

[@whitneyr.846]

Depends on what classes you took. Amazon or Google mostly. I have a friend that leads the development team for Alexa... But mainly today businesses don't care what your degree is in, they just want a piece of paper. My last boss, who was a Quality Systems Manager for a medical device company, which makes sure the company can prove they are meeting all ISO and FDA regulations... had his degree in liberal arts 🙄

[@ThingsILikke]

How can they teach a subject that’s brand new?

[@Big1nz]

Researcher positions?

[@t.warren1363]

Can you use your transferable skills to become a data analyst/scientist/engineer?

[@aldogutierrez8240]

You are right if you know Python and or R, he can sell it self for a datascience position.

[@matthewsnyder1079]

"go find CS nerds to code it for you"... *flashbacks to every time someone says "I have a great idea, I just need someone to code it for me"*.

[@crassvegan6511]

Please dig into and review the dollar general corporate structure and their "short comings" There are law suits for labor violations There are dozens of KZbin videos about how badly it sucks to work for the dollar general Please talk about this

[@flipevent]

I have a Master's in Entrepreneurship and Management, but this applies all the same. I don't have a regret in joining that program itself, since it was an international program, but I wish it had been a different degree. Here's some practical advice. Any business degree that is not Finance or Accounting is a soft-skill business degree--you can do well without it. Get a 2 year Associate's, get a business/marketing coordinator job for 1-2 years (that you would've used to complete the Bachelor's) to get the more valuable job experience, and you'd be starting in the same starting line that I did while spending FAR less in student loans. If you'd like to skip college as well, go for it--I don't blame you in the slightest. But do not go to college just for a business admin/entrepreneurship/marketing degree. - A Director of Marketing with 12+ years experience

[@ronaldinojikri5682]

When Zen became famous in America, there were Zen masters giving out certificates of Enlightenment. 😂😂😂

[@Hvb101]

Lol!

[@minuit6305]

_"it's the Echols experience where you do things and things get done"_ Ah yes, doing things definitely seems to get things done....imagine paying 8k to hear that.

[@cutflow2]

People realizing their scams, so they come out with new ones lol. My friend dropped out of college, he knows 20 plus coding languages and makes 150k without a degree because he knows so many programming languages that he self taught himself. He passed the interview, no degree needed.

[@Big1nz]

That's nice just realize your friends isint the norm and shouldn't be used as an example. Most people will only handful or coding, scripting, and markup languages and of those maybe two enough to do a paid position. Hitting the college check mark for interviews is something that's going to help, going in without a degree means typically you need to be experienced and be well above average.

[@cutflow2]

@@Big1nz I agree yes and no. I agree with you because you are correct about it isn’t the norm. I disagree because I believe that he can be used as an example in terms of you can do the technology without a degree. He knows 29 languages. He started at 12yr. He had a reason behind every language he learned. For the job tho I believe he only uses 2 languages so it’s not needed but everyone has the ability to learn what’s required of the job with one or two certifications you will be good to go. And watching the content on this channel :) anyone and everyone has the ability to do it if you put in the time in it.

[@tylerdengler6960]

@@cutflow2 at 12 years old? I see where you’re coming from, but not everyone knows what they want to do at a young age like your friend and not everyone would hypothetically have as much experience unless they started at a young age or prove that they have enough knowledge and skills to qualify for a job without a degree.

[@AbderrahmanFodili]

This gotta be the best video I've ever watched on KZbin. I've been puzzled for years on what I should do till I had to go through the experiment of creating a business and failing . That taught me that being an idea guy or simply an entrepreneur will take you nowhere in a team work environment. You'll need a lot of money or at least one skill to help create a business from scratch be it either programing, sales, marketing, design, or experience in the field and market your business is trying to enter . I'm learning coding now.

[@NaturalBeauty214]

Can you talk about how ridiculous it is to return to office with gas prices soaring???? It makes no sense

[@justinwhite2725]

"you do things and things get done."

[@towel-ie7554]

Hey Josh - no talking shit on the U of U! On a more serious note at 6:45 your gripe is that it's a degree for ideas with no ability (or perhaps a general lack of specific skills) to implement that idea - but then the entrepreneur takes credit despite others doing the gritty parts for them. Well - if the coders, designers, engineers, scientists, etc. are so smart and want the credit then they can be the entrepreneur too - but they aren't and that's what you pointed out. Different breeds in the world and if it works it works, whether we all like it or not.

[@ibrahimylmaz8378]

I'm glad the like button is still here. Thanks for keeping it honest. People like you are our hope.

[@dahill0780]

Yeah entrepreneurship is something you would be better off learning outside of school. If anything do community college to see if college is for you or don't go to college. A bachelors with skills will be the better route. I got a generalist bachelors degree and should've got a specialist kind (In the short term its been rough, but will see if it pays off long term). Though not the end of the world. I'm employed and happy where I am at. Companies like experience and the skills you learn from inside and outside of work instead. All the work you did before is important to where you maybe now. Always build your skills and experience! Keep trying and never quit! Cheers!

[@ndosh1man]

As someone who has this exact degree, I kinda agree. I live in Norway so I didn't pay even close to what Americans do. I think I would have been better off getting a normal business degree, but I did learn some important business skills. I have an Entrepreneurship degree, but I supplemented it with sales and programming experience. Most business degrees are useless in my opinion if you cant supplement them with extracurricular skills.

[@ConradCreel]

"Where you do things and things get done". Gonna work that in to every meeting with a straight face

[@Chris-gv7cq]

Us ex military just go to these schools because we just want our monthly gi bill stipend.

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

I have a Bachelors in Software engineering talk about a worthless degree and being in debt.

[@ChrisAthanas]

You should be able to get at least $75k/yr starting salary with that The demand is insane for the skill

[@ThingsILikke]

That doesn’t sound worthless

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

I had a feeling about that being a weird major when my buddy at work applied for that at WGU. I at least got a bunch of good Cisco and CompTIA certs out of the security specialization I did.

[@Dedgyblazer]

but Josh, what if I wanna become an ovelord? Doesnt this bachelor degree teach me this?

[@Lawrence330]

A certificate from an accredited school that taught small business basics such as accounting, marketing, industry regulations, and basic HR would be a great program for aspiring entrepreneurs. Many entrepreneurs fall into the trap of wearing all of the hats, and a program like this would help people understand where and when they *should* hire someone else to take the wheel. A course stuffed full of flowery corporate buzzwords? Not so much.

[@wolfymaster]

The reality is that a lot of business are run by people who don't have the skill to actually work for their own business. I personally know of several companies who had an idea, pitched some investors, got some funding, and used it to pay devs to build it. And if the business fails, they dissolve it. They arent out any money. Investors write it off or w/e they do.

[@dammitanothername]

Better just laid off more workers. A worker found out as her pc locked her out while she was responding to a customer. No email, no notice, just shut down.

[@vivdoolan6846]

Having done a degree, a masters and now being an entrepreneur, it's very clear that you cannot learn to be an entrepreneur at university. You have to DO , not be taught. Far better off learning a specific skill, as he says.

[@inquisitorofthegodemperor8434]

Y Combinator Startup School - nuff said, no need to stay in university for 3-4 years for an entrepreneurship theory degrees when you can learn from some the best of the best in practice, and even better it's 100% free and lets you connect with founders, co-founders, and just some really smart and dedicated people

[@kevingrems]

I was a FIRST Lego League judge once. Pretty fun.

[@halogamerfromxbox]

I love your college degree vids. As someone who’s in college, I find them very entertaining. For anyone wondering, I’m majoring in Interaction Design

[@_baller]

I know someone who got that degree, he is now a professional side kick, and like does construction but not his own business lol oh and has some apparel side business, not successful

[@destroyonload3444]

100% placement rate. Also 100% self-hire rate. 99% self-fire rate.

[@UdoADHD]

It’s insane that you can have a degree in entrepreneurship and not know how to set up an LLC on your own 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Danilo0717]

I like how you explain things logically. Cool video man.

[@siyabongamabundza5834]

The second guy got a degree that equipped him to join a coding bootcamp🤣🤣🤣

[@LifelinkTV]

They actually have a sample entrepreneurship resume... I am floored.

[@riacharda]

Aaron Clarey raises his glass to this video.

[@se2664]

Quincy Copeland ended up a masters in computer science according to his LinkedIn. Now he works as a software engineer

[@insightmanners6876]

In my uni,for the first semester of the enterpreneur degree, they not study anything, the teacher told the student to make their own company, and the next semester they make their bussines as an object of lecture. And yes, there are so many DO in this degree because their company is growing so much and they focus on their business

[@SurfingTheMentawais]

The Ultimate Degree: International Diversity in Entrepreneurship Relations Management Marketing

[@davidellis5141]

I deal in human fulfillment.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

Let's hope all the corporations and government agencies aren't bugging your phones and computers and stealing anybody's ideas.

[@CatloafCreative]

Top shelf shade at that resume sample, lol!

[@jacquesmalan5950]

It's just about lowering entry requirements

[@adamrubinson6875]

Wouldn’t an entrepreneur figure this stuff out themselves? That’s what an entrepreneur *does*.

[@theemoparakeet]

58400 starting income? So average American income? Really worth the cost of the degree

[@AmericanAmy]

Another interesting and informative video, thanks.

[@crimsonsamuraiftw]

So basically just replaced a general Business Degree.

[@Starkardur]

I know this one guy who studied this and talks more about entrepreneurship than actually doing it.

[@ronaldinojikri5682]

You should do a video on Agile/Scrum and the rubbish that is peddled in its name.

[@GuitarsRgood7]

100% placement rate. Well of course, you work for yourself...

[@Nogardtist]

what about Phd in gender studies

[@88Roshan]

I remember my freshman year, i tried to tell a classmate he was wasting his money getting a degree and entrepreneurship. If he wanted a degree he could just get a management degree and he would still have a decent curriculum or he could just intern for an entrepreneur. He said i was negative 🥴

[@tongla9447]

Damn! They have a floor dedicated to LOL players.

[@XxhimynameiscynxX]

Dudes I graduated from San Diego State's International Business program and I would sit in classes with Entrepreneurship majors and internally would judge them. Often they were all the white girls or Chads that had family with money that were there to make their parents happy or continue their online influencer persona. They would copy off my tests and in group projects would absolutely disappear. IDK how they made it through all the Math based courses honestly. So in a way they learned correctly on letting smarter people work for you while you bask in the glory lol.

[@illusoryknowledge9307]

If you were going to have them cheat, hopefully you at least charged them a fee what with all that disposable income they'd have.

[@aldogutierrez8240]

They should teach No Code platforms as Adalo, Bumble or WordPress for this degree. Also how to get funds for your app, that would to be useful, so they can start a startup with an idea.

[@AphroVenator]

That can't be a real school... the course description is full of typos.

[@PurpleMoonlight812]

i wouldn't mind an entrepreneurship degree that actually taught practical skills related to entrepreneurship - like business accounting, basic business / contract / employment law, business writing, and those workshops like you said are legit skills/knowledge.

[@davefischer2344]

5:58 yeah exactly that's five months money lol.

[@daduhd9304]

This would be amazing if they included the exact skills NEEDED to create new products and solutions

[@noel9568]

Oh shit... Yeah, what sucks is theres a lot of entrepreneurship stuff that you should learn but these courses don't teach you! Most of them dont even mention what an LLC or a corperation is and even beyond that, theres a lot of entrepreneurship thing that you need to learn but can't because of courses like these take up the first page on google!

[@noel9568]

Tbf, a lot of this stuff might not be important... An legal entity and insurance is important if you might get sewed! You can get away with stuff if you're small enough ig!

[@paulbradley3626]

Smh just need to watch the Futurama episode about the businessman with boneitis

[@Murfster]

Thinking like an entrepreneur I want to create a school to charge people to learn how to be an entrepreneur

[@djpuplex]

Honestly looks like most college curriculum. If the professors were what they teach, they do it.

[@nachiketmalpathak9039]

Going to college to learn about entrepreneurship is like going on a solitary meditation tour to the Himalayas to learn about sex.

[@PumpkinSpicePretzels]

If US market philosophy is "be an entrepreneur to survive or make a good living", well then, who's gonna work for the entrepreneurs?

[@ChrisPatrick8199]

It would make more sense to take the money you were going to spend on this degree and put it directly into starting your own biz.

[@khafreahmose8768]

Damn that's an actual degree??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@justinwhite2725]

3:58 dooood. Chrome browser extension reveals it. How do you not have this? That's how we know how badly ratioed lord of the rings: the rings if power is.

[@NickPShow]

It would be one thing if the professors had real world business experience and it was more of an apprenticeship program to start your own company but you're getting a degree in studying entrepreneurs without being one. Most degrees in college are essentially the cycle of why bother-if you want an education you can self educate without a ton of student loans or go to a two year college first.

[@se2664]

No entrepreneur degree in college is actually going to teach you about making a business plan, business credit, filing an LLC, and how file taxes as an entrepreneur. And won’t teach you how to invest in stocks

[@tylerdengler6960]

That got me thinking, are there any college classes that teach people how to invest?

[@se2664]

@@tylerdengler6960 hmm very rare. My former accounting professor just created her own course 3 years ago about financial literacy. My college never had it until then

[@withpikachu2402]

I have been teaching management. It is still useful degree, but we can't challenge students enough. The school asks us to provide entertainment only. Of course many students come to learn any degree, because they just want a paper. Where is demand, there is supply.

[@nightfangs2910]

The line from good will hunting sums this up ... You dropped 150k on a degree you could have gotten for 1.50 in late charges at the local library

[@adequatequality]

The funny thing is that a basic business degree or a business certificate probably teaches you just as much if not more about entrepreneurship than a 4 year degree ever will. And you're probably paying like 1/4 of the price for that degree.

[@fuziontonygaming]

You should look into communication degree, got a coworker in job that has one but I don’t think it translates well.

[@jpm8288]

I feel that a degree in entrepreneurship could be good, but not as it is taught in business school. The problem is that the skills you need are actually multi-disciplinary and schools are set up in silos to focus on one area. In the modern age, an entrepreneur should learn about business, law, UX/UI, web development, SEO, taxes, and a number of other skills especially if he or she is going at it alone. Most of those skills are not taught under the business degree or by the business school alone. In fact, most school don't even teach the most important skill of an entrepreneur; sales. But I don't think the degree is all useless. I was able to build my business and use my company to find work by changing my title from CEO to whatever I needed it to be. I just said I worked at my company, and never made mention of my actual role. This worked because I built real skills that were transferable by building a real business. I had to make ads, learn seo, use google analytics, and other marketing software. It was easy to transition into a marketing role because of this while I also still have my business. So if you got an entrepreneurship degree, your best bet is to actually build a company and use the skills you acquired to find a job if things don't work out. Just remember to build real market skills while also building your business. Use the same tools and techniques as industry does, and you'll find it quite easy to find work if shit goes south.

[@meemneep1595]

But wouldn't that just be business administration though? Entrepreneur is just a category or a title of leadership. Being an entrepreneur is being an innovator. By this I don't mean just an innovator but a person who can find what the needs of the people are and make something that is needed in the community. But then again that would fall into business. Business Administration gives you the basic understanding of what running a business is like and the kind of data that should be considered collecting and analyzing. Of course learning a current popular skill would be a plus like programming or IT. Or any other skill needed that my benefit a business the person is trying to get into. Idk

[@jpm8288]

@@meemneep1595 Im not sure if you have a degree in business administration, but the emphasis is very different. A general business degree will tell you that people buy things based on their needs, but entrepreneurship courses usually have at least one hands on class where you learn to do proper market research, conduct customer interviews, and learn if you should invest more in the idea or not. The degree does not give you the technical skills needed to succeed though. You have to develop those on your own. But some (about three of them) of the entreprenuership courses are pretty good and very useful for someone thinking of striking off on their own. In general, I agree with Josh that you should not get a degree as it is too much invested for about three useful classes. But it would be helpful to minor in it and get the most important classes. The knowledge is useful; the degree is not. Probably the best thing would be to major in a technical subject, and minor in entreprenuership.

[@xdeathknight72x]

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[@travelone753]

Totally makes sense Josh, it's not worth it...

[@Winticket7]

Here's an idea - make a movie about a lost teen who ends up in this sort of "collage" and follow it up with his slow (or sudden) realization that it's all been bullshit. Edit: and have him find his way life

[@tylerhoffman9856]

I don't know. It seems more useful than a communications degree.