The Problem With Interstellar's Black Hole that Everyone Ignores

[@skycloud4802]

I think what i enjoyed most about movies like Interstellar and Gravity is that they make space very dangerous and creepy. No dramatic killer aliens involved.

[@ricaivory6571]

That's bcuz the universe is dangerous. Not necessarily creepy, but EXTREMELY dangerous. Yet eerily so incredibly beautiful.

[@theflowerhead]

​@@ricaivory6571Honestly the thought of the aloneness and time travel you could experience sounds unnerving and creepy in some ways even though it's hauntingly beautiful.

[@ricaivory6571]

@@theflowerhead you're scared but you wanna fly thru a supermassive black hole just to experience it.

[@ah6169]

Dont dare compare the Gravity trash with Interstellar

[@skycloud4802]

@@ah6169 it's not a crime to like both.

[@dobieshep]

I can’t get over how amazing Interstellar was as an experience. Still to this day, no other movie had as much of an impact on me than it did.

[@anonymousperson8487]

2001 was the last year that Hollywood produced a good film

[@davidmurphy563]

Really? I was a bit underwhelmed. I thought the pacing was poor, the characterisation wasn't great, the tension was so-so and the acting wasn't great. Decent cinematography though and some of the concepts were nice. But, you know, good you enjoyed it. For me it was okay, flawed but there were positives to take away.

[@filmboy18]

Interstellar made me feel small, because in the vastness we really are. One of my top five favourite films.

[@JohnnyNiteTrain]

I've seen Every Nolan film in IMAX since Inception and they've all been amazing movie-going experiences. Interstellar, Dunkirk and Oppenheimer are the top 3. You know they're great when you go back multiple times to see them!!

[@Astares9]

i watched it on acid once and now every time i rewatch it, i'm forced to tears at every high energy scene

[@SeanLKearns]

The scene where they get the shuttle back to the orbiter is way underplayed. Like the dude just spent 20 years by himself, just waiting for these two to get back and they honestly can't even make sense of it because it's so bizarre.

[@elseby]

It's legit out of everything in the movie the most unrealistic. It has to take a mind of incredible and enduring fortitude to survive that long the way he did. I highly doubt anyone could actually go through with that experience.

[@BostonsF1nest]

@@elsebyhe did say he had a few stretches of cryo sleep

[@Memo420UK]

​@elseby Michael Silverstein did 40 years in solitary with no human contact at all and was still relatively with it at the end. Lots of american prisoners have served substantial time in solitary, without the stimulation that he does on a ship. Plus he took long naps in the cryo thing

[@elseby]

@@Memo420UK there's a difference between solitary in a prison when you know there are people out nearby and who you still have contact with daily, and someone light-years away above a time distorted planet when you have no idea if your friends and coworkers are alive or not. Not to mention the entire human race is depending on you.

[@raphaelgregor8451]

​@@Memo420UKyou guys know that he died and came as a ghost at the end right ?

[@spencerholmes7602]

It always bothered me that time dilation only began once they reached the planet and not the whole time growing as they approached the planet and it’s proximity to Gargantua.

[@Laerei]

Yeah, speaking in cosmic scales, the time dilation in orbit and on the planet would be so similar that there wouldn't be any percievable difference. Especially in orbit the ship is going in circles around the planet and thus experiencing stronger and weaker time dilation in equal measures thus nullifying any difference.

[@neoncat6820]

They only spent a few minutes on the planet, meaning that in order for 23 years to have gone by, they definitely did experience time dilation in the hours it took going to and leaving the planet

[@spencerholmes7602]

@@neoncat6820 not a bad assessment, but on the surface, where Cooper asks Brand how much their delay would cost, she replied, ‘decades’.

[@Monody512]

I always assumed the Endurance was put in an elliptical orbit around Gargantua, dropping off and picking up the lander as it passed by Miller's Planet but spending most of its time at a significantly higher altitude.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

@@Laerei Except the gravity would have killed them way before there was any slowing in time! no that theres any black holes that can slow down time that much!

[@socalminstrel]

Great video. One nitpick: in a supermassive black hole, "spaghettification" would definitely not happen anywhere close to the event horizon, on either side of it. These black holes are so massive that the gravity gradient is very gentle until you get much, much closer to the singularity. Spaghettification near or even before the event horizon would be a serious risk in a stellar mass black hole, since it is a lot smaller and the event horizon is much closer to the singularity.

[@richardpark3054]

Yes, very insightful. 'Spaghettification' is a manifestation of steep gravitational gradient and gravitational gradient is inversely dependent on black hole diameter: smaller black holes = greater gravitational gradient while larger diameter black hole = smaller gravitational gradient. So, if you're gonna dive into a black hole, pick a big one!

[@agnsprinting]

Ahh good ol spagetifacation.. can’t live with it can’t live without it…. I went to Olive Garden recently and asked them for the spagetification and they escorted me out of the building 🤷‍♂️

[@jdmiller82]

I can't believe this movie is already 10 years old! It's one of my favorites!

[@BufferThunder]

ikr.

[@mwallace2922]

Time is like that.

[@bluevanga30]

Literally watched this for the 1st time last weekend. Not sure why i wasted so long but damn was it worth it

[@namitadas7261]

it's 1 hour and 26 minutes in Miller's planet so not that old :)

[@LAJAP]

I can't believe it's not butter!

[@milesedgeworth132]

I was very sleepy when this was recommended to me and I thought it said "The Truth about Orangutans" and my half-conscious mind believed there was some conspiracy regarding the existence of Orangutans.

[@SoLDMG]

STAY WOKE

[@ashwinnaidoo796]

They literally look like dudes in monkey suits I wpildnt b surprised

[@hazardeur]

lay off the pipe dude

[@rewar5870]

There is a conspiracy , they don't want you to know the truth . Orangutans are sneaky and have a dark side...... ( cue haunting creepy music )🎶 🎵 "

[@nekimi__]

Lmao

[@georgemorley1029]

0:41 Yeah, the reason you got that feeling is because it IS science fiction.

[@sev.1207]

LOL right! 😂

[@SaulFavela-ld8kt]

So many people seem to forget this part, it’s like the creator of the video and everyone in the comments think Nolan advertised this movie as “a movie that has no faults in its science and is completely accurate” like bruh…. It’s a movie about a man and his daughter

[@Unshou]

Exactly. At no point did Nolan suggest that this was a science documentary. It didn't stray from "Science" to "Science Fiction". It always was science fiction.

[@menninkainen8830]

It's more like fantasy. You cannot put science into a comic book universe.

[@mastah39]

@@SaulFavela-ld8kt The movie definitely marketed itself as a hard-scifi movie, with heavy emphasis on the realism of the relativistic effects and black hole. This is stretched to the point of ruining the movie by having Cooper launch from Earth on a chemical rocket when it is shown later that they have the Ranger and another lander being absolutely able to do planetary landings and takeoffs effortlessly. This isn't even about realism vs fantasy, this is aesthetics taking the precedence over the internal consistency and logic of the movie's universe.

[@wunba]

I’ve seen the movie 10+ times and it’s amazing but the one that always gets me is at the end when they orbit the blackhole that takes like 30 seconds in the movie. Perhaps there was a time gap, but wouldn’t you expect it to take ALOT longer like a year or something given the size of the blackhole?

[@bryanryan4504]

Would have taken several hundred million years to do.

[@dabigfreeze]

I guess it depends on how close they got and how fast they were going.

[@UrbanMediaReview]

It sounds like we just need to some how some way , some WHEN , enter a black hole.

[@DaddyHensei]

The blackhole itself was rotating at near the speed of light. With the amount of gravity, I’d reckon their own orbital velocity was probably similar. It also depends on perspective, if you were far away from them, they’d look to be going slower. Because well, time is relative. I have a bigger problem of them being able to avoid colliding with the accretion disk personally. It’s kind of hard to bullseye the event horizon even that of a supermassive black hole even with its weaker tidal forces. But wouldn’t have a movie then. Also when he fell in, he should have basically experienced the entire heat death of the universe with how messed up space/time would be. From Matt’s perspective, he should have, basically experienced all of time in a matter of a few hours of course this would be in total darkness. From what I understand. Basically, he essentially would have lived for trillions of years in mere hours. (That’s of course if he doesn’t somehow get stretched like a loony toon character.)

[@TFDwolf]

​@@DaddyHenseispace time is local. To someone entering a black hole, time would seem to pass normally (ie, you would fall in, spaghettify, and die within a few seconds/minutes/hours), but to those outside, the person would seem to be standing still for millennia.

[@Russking23]

Interstellar was one of the catalysts, that piqued (not peaked) my curiosity about space and time. Yes there are plenty of inaccuracies, but it's still a very powerful and beautiful movie

[@Ottee2]

Yes, this movie gives me a very haunting sense of loneliness.

[@bluceree7312]

"Powerful and beautiful", and curious and inspiring it might be, but the bottom line is: Interstellar is a stupid person's idea of a *_smart_* movie.

[@Russking23]

@@bluceree7312 yes and no. I truly doubt that human kind will ever understand the whole complexity of the universe/multiverse. This movie is created for a wide audience. Maybe some rando gets so deeply fascinated with space, that he/ she will make the next huge breakthrough in that field.

[@djvapid]

@@bluceree7312 Aren't you just so edgy and intelligent.

[@AnyWayICan]

Advanced beings from the future send a message back in time to certain heroes to put them on the right path so that the future will end up as it already was when they sent the message. Interstellar or Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure?

[@larrywalsh9939]

Colonizing a planet in orbit of a black hole is unlikely to be a good idea simply because of the radiation present nearby, as their accumulation discs are incredibly violent - but other than that, if you live on such a planet, you're in a different timeframe than the rest of humanity, and while not entirely causally disconnected, it would inevitably turn into cultural disconnection.

[@jaymxu]

Wrong. You have a wrong image of a black hole, if the planet orbits at the perfect distance, which it would have to be anyway in order for us to live there, then it's the exact same thing, a black hole looks like a star to us, the disc is a visual representation of what they are, not of what they actually look like to us. The general visuals of this black ball with a warp of space around it moving like in space engine is not what they look like, they literally look like stars from the energy emitting around them and the hawking radiation coming from it. And the time only changes according to mass, so if the black hole was of the same mass as our sun, nothing would change. Plus distance, since a black hole the mass of our sun doesn't exist, it would be way slower there but we would be further away anyways, all our goldy lock zones are equal in time when speaking about stars and black holes. Because mass=energy but mass= gravity as well. Which meana whatever size something it, that energy will emit heat, which means the larger the further away, which in turn means faster time. Until ur in the habitable zone. Edit: lol people commenting to me saying the heat can be different but the radiation is not a factor since we would have to be at a further distance anyway, AND we still have amagnetic field either way. It evens it out. Y'all are funny.

[@jaymxu]

If you google this "How can a civilization tell that their "Sun" is actually a black hole emitting hawking radiation?" You will find many answers and new ways for you to actually understand what goes on. I would send the link but i think Astrum has disabled links as spam so i won't even try, ima let you put in the effort if you wanna know. ❤

[@christoffer886]

Why would it be different than orbiting a star if you exist in an orbit within similar gravitational "depth"? As well as if a planet has a magnetic field and atmosphere it would be the same as how earth blocks radiation from space and the sun.

[@SnakeKoRn]

I would assume the radiation to be extreme

[@SnakeKoRn]

@@christoffer886Depending on the distance tho, I think (but not sure) that the planet in Interstellar is too close.

[@DoctorX149]

I always understood spaghettification as being a less significant issue with supermassive black holes, as the gravity increase as you get closer is more gradual over a greater distance than smaller ones. Is that true? That still doesn’t solve the deadliness of the hot plasma or the photosphere

[@pointofpersonalprivilege]

Is what true? It's all made up. There's no facts. Just some people making a hypothesis and their peers saying "yea we agree, our very basic understanding of mathematics seems legit enough to back up your science fiction story." Anyone jump into a big made up black hole to gather the info you claim you understand?

[@Simon-d]

True, the point at which spaghettification destroys an object/ person depends on the black hole's size. While for a relatively small black hole it may happen even before reaching the event horizon, for a supermassive one like in the movie Cooper could fall for 99% of the way from the event horizon to the singularity before being spaghettified.

[@NightWanderer31415]

Absolutely true, the larger the black hole, the smaller the tidal forces.

[@ivocanevo]

​@@Simon-dagreed with everything you said (though I thought the bh would have to be significantly larger even than Gargantua).

[@bobbyrayvictory6905]

It's all a theory. So if it sounds smart just go with it. There's no one that can say you're wrong. For all we know there's just a star there so big light can't escape

[@gamersvr6379]

I've been watching some Interstellar videos lately, I realized recently that Gargantua is supposed to be a supermassive black hole, containing 4 million solar masses or something like that, but when you watch the movie and you see the ranger in the accretion disc, you can actually see the circumference of the black hole, if it were truly realistic, once the ranger approached the black hole all you'd see was a black huge wall due to how big it actually is.

[@raven4k998]

well it's all what if since no ones flown into a black hole💀💀

[@sbcrshfw]

its a science fiction movie its not supposed to be realistic 💀

[@raven4k998]

@@sbcrshfw yeah well it cannot be realistic since we do not have the info of how a black hole works since first off we have not found one let alone explored it

[@mastah39]

@@sbcrshfw it was entirely marketed around the realism of the look of that black hole, it's fair to criticize that.

[@insane-ry]

The first photos of a real blackhole were found later in April 2017 and before it was mostly just visualized and so. And the movie's of 2014 so this was the most realism they can show.

[@JasonP6339]

Because it wasn't a story about space or space travel.... It was a story about the relationship between a father and his daughter.

[@mastah39]

It's a story that marketed itself with the collaboration with NASA and the realism it was supposed to portray. Yeah, the story of the man and his daughter was amazing, but they didn't have the courage to have that stand on its own, to say that sci-fantasy doesn't need a realism crutch. It's a movie that's ashamed of its own genre, the sci-fi version of a Disney live-action remake, hiding behind NASA aesthetics to distance themselves from the perceived immaturity of fantasy stories.

[@BroadsideBob]

Two things regarding Miller's planet: (1) When Cooper et al initially left Earth, they needed what appeared to be a Saturn V rocket to rendezvous with the Endurance. However, when they left Miller's planet with gravity stronger than Earth (10% stronger?), they did so in a craft approximately the size of a small plane. (2) If Miller's planet was so deep in Gargantua's gravity well that it created some pretty extreme time dilation,. their craft would also not be powerful enough to escape the gravity well. I think there's a misconception about an event horizon: true, nothing, not even light can escape once past the event horizon; however you cannot just (figuratively) walk right up to the event horizon and walk away. Even well short of the event horizon, very very few things will escape.

[@playstationarusu]

Gargantua's gravity wouldn't make it any more difficult to escape the gravity of Miller's planet. The gravity well of Gargantua makes the gravity well of Miller's planet that much deeper, relative to space (and time) not bent by Gargantua. But relative to the space Miller's planet travels through, the planet isn't warping space any more than if it were orbiting a star or nothing at all. You are right though that a planet more massive than Earth would need at least the same or more force to escape. I don't think the movie explains that.

[@Maddinhpws]

@@playstationarusu I believe what he means is. If the main ship is parked in an orbit that makes for a much lower time dilation. While the time dilation on Millers planet is literally thousands of times more extreme. It is a matter of speed. To have such an extreme time dilation, the planet needs to move at almost the speed of light. Because even if it is the gravity causing the dilation, the planet needs to rate around the black hole several times a second to not be sucked into it. Which means for the scout ship to enter that extreme state of time dilation and to leave it again, it would need to speed up appropriately to close to the speed of light and back to not so close to speed of light again.

[@playstationarusu]

@@Maddinhpws Well yeah, obviously I agree that if a craft can't escape Earth it can't escape Miller's planet let alone a black hole. I'm just pointing out Miller's planet itself wouldn't become any harder to escape because of the black hole.

[@mopthefloorrr]

Well the black hole was obviously used by the future humans to help the current humans, so it would make sense they set everything up to work out for them. As well as the fact that black holes often randomly spit out light and what not from their outer horizon and orbit because of how unstable they can be. Overall i was satisfied with it because some of the weirder stuff was explained by the abilities of the higher beings future human people, who can obviously manipulate the universe to their will.

[@TyDie1]

I was thinking the same exact thing. I saw an illustration of the black hole and planet and the event horizon was well before the planet. So how is it still a planet?

[@chetton93]

The time paradox mentioned at the end miss states the film’s plot. He doesn’t communicate the equations to his past self to let his craft leave earth. His craft leaves conventionally and is already built when he arrives at the NASA base . He communicate with his daughter giving her the equation so she can develop the ships that will lift all of humanity off earth to seek out the new planet, which she does as an adult while he is away off planet.

[@neoncat6820]

True, it's still a paradox though since he never would have gone to NASA if it wasn't for him sending the message to his past self

[@GuyN0ir]

@@neoncat6820If humanity never escaped earth they never would have been able to provide the wormhole from the far distant future. If they never had the wormhole, they never would have escaped earth. Time paradoxes are pointless to argue about.

[@neoncat6820]

@@GuyN0ir indeed, this specific paradox is called a bootstrap paradox, in which an event which shouldn't be able to happen is caused by a time travel which only happened due to the event.

[@ZawaOnYoutube]

​@@neoncat6820 That's the thing. There is no time travel. Everything that happened, happened, and will happen. Cooper is in a dimension outside of our human understanding. But there is no time travel, no loop, none of that. It's weird to see this video and see commenters saying that, when the movie goes out of its way to say as much really.

[@playstationarusu]

​@@ZawaOnKZbinBut there is 100% a bootstrap paradox caused by time travel in the movie. Cooper is able to send information back in time to his past self that would lead him to the present, from his point of view. Cooper was in a place where time was represented as a physical dimesion so he could understand the 5th dimension, and you can see the paradox represented physically in those scenes.

[@GoldenEDM_2018]

This video 10 years late because of time dilation

[@exocosmic5005]

😂😂😂

[@iAmNothingness]

Nah, it was the gas my bum released.

[@michaelmohler5409]

Aww now people arnt allowed to talk about things

[@alkar19]

Its a joke lmao ​@@michaelmohler5409

[@TheRealBatCave]

Or 10 years early

[@tscoffey1]

The first problem I thought of with the time dilation caused by the brief visit to Miller's Planet is this: If the gravitational change between the orbit of the main spacecraft, and the orbit of Miller's Planet is that extreme (20 years to 1 hour), how did the relatively small ship that visited the planet possibly have enough delta V capability to climb back up that gravity well?

[@Yinzermakesvids]

Hence the science fiction 😅

[@heyspookyboogie644]

It’s only a time difference relative to an outside reference frame. Meaning if it takes 20 minutes to break orbit, then it always takes 20 minutes for the ship/those on the ship regardless of the amount of gravity or time dilation compared to the mother ship.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

@@Yinzermakesvidsit’s actually not fiction. It’s how time dilation actually works. Like clocks on a GPS satellite only run slower relative to clocks on earth. 24 hours on a satellite still takes 24 hours to pass from its perspective. That’s why Cooper and Brand only experience a short time away vs the years Dr. Romilly experienced.

[@petrut.1224]

You're asking too complex questions. The ship would have been vaporized into oblivion as soon as it came closer to the accretion disk.

[@darkbeastzero]

yeah they definitely "stretched" the amount of time dilation for going down to that planet and back. For the amount of gravity portrayed, the dilation should be a lot less, like maybe a few days (or even less) and not years. however, that would not "communicate" the efffect. "wow you fuys were gone for days". "actually it was only a few hours". "oh. ok"

[@solomungus]

For me the bit in interstellar that felt the least likely was how they managed to dock their ship, where the dock was no longer the centre of gravity of the damaged hub ship. It would literally have to be perfect or the sheering force of the differring turning moments and relative linear forces would trash everything.

[@ravingodd]

11:46 I've never been satisfied with "spaghettification will kill you". Assuming you were able to jump into an event horizon feet first, the inverse square law would affect your feet sooner/stronger than your head, sure. But it also affects spacetime as well. So rather than being stretched out to impossible thinness, aren't you simply following the path of least resistance? The outside observer, if there could be one, would see someone stretch. But to the person jumping in, they would remain intact, would they not? As you stretch towards the event horizon, so does spacetime, and you fill the same space.

[@TFDwolf]

Well...no. The problem is that you'll accelerate as you 'orbit' into the event horizon, which is when all of the matter in your body will begin to break down to fundamental particles as everything is accelerated to very near the speed of light. Time and space are relative, but the speed of light is the speed limit, and any object with mass will break apart into fundamental particles as it approaches it; or rather, the massless particles will keep accelerating off of your body while the mass remains (not for very long, mind you).

[@JNelson_]

Think of it as your head and your feet following different paths through spacetime that diverge this is what results in spaghettification

[@ClockworkGearhead]

See that accretion disc? Same thing happened to it. When people say spaghettification, they don't mean cartoon type.

[@miyannaable]

Your narration is simply and absolutely delightful. I am almost always thinking about black holes, even in the back of my mind when I'm doing something else. Sometimes magnetars. Black holes have transformed the way I see everything, and I often imagine that we are all inside one more massive than I could ever truly understand. For me, the best part of Interstellar was the moment he decides to brave the black hole.

[@thomasjefferson2676]

Plot twist. The rest of the movie after he enters the black hole is just his imagination as he is stretched and squeezed into oblivion.

[@Cylus1527]

My main issue with Miller's planet is the characters' decision to visit it first. These guys are top-of-their field scientists who don’t take the time to do the math and realize that an observer on the surface would only have been there for a few hours/minutes. If they had, they would have concluded that the favorable report was only initial, and shouldn’t be trusted over the much more thorough survey of the second planet. They would also have known that for earth, it would be worth checking the third planet first, since any excursion to Miller's planet would take decades from Earth's timeframe. The point is that nothing about the time dialation at Miller's planet should have been a surprise to the characters. People like them should have suspected that phenomenon existed there, and they certainly had the know-how to mathematically check the potential consequences of going there.

[@DJoseph-sp4ij]

This was my problem with Interstellar's plot. The human race is counting on a very small group of people and they send scientific incompetents.

[@lasskinn474]

the phenomena would have been observable in any communications leaving the planet. or just by looking at it.

[@MrJack556]

Shhhh shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@sakrusingh7560]

These scientists never left the simulation. They have never docked before or ever did interstellar travel. That's why whatever they experience is a huge deal to them even though they know what happens.

[@changsangma1915]

You have to realize the ultimate point of the story is between the father and his daughter, the sci fi is just woven around those two characters and the space expedition stuff is just plot fodder to get the story going. This movie is not really about space and science.

[@MajorTomFisher]

I always thought the scene where he falls into the black hole was supposed to be the beings from the future teleporting him to the 5D dimension (IIRC the robot even says that the beings were the ones to show him the 5D world), maybe because the beings were supernatural in nature or maybe because the beings were future humans or sympathetic aliens who were able to save him using advanced future technology only available thousands of years in the future. Because of the time dilation, those thousands of years would've passed already.

[@patricksmith7642]

Agree. I think the point in the movie was that advanced humans from the future intervene.

[@Enddeous]

Yeah, Cooper and tars were brought into the wormhole by humans very far in the future, when they've evolved past the 3 dimensions we know.

[@zentrocs]

not sympathetic, if they didn't do it a paradox would've happened

[@Cholm]

It was indeed advanced humans, they opened the original wormhole as well (it's implied)

[@patricksmith7642]

@zentrocs That's what fun about closed time loops, I mean they have to start with SOMEONE'S conscious decision right? It's mind blowing to try and think about.

[@Kataclysm113]

something that's always bugged me in this movie is just how extreme the time dilation difference actually is. if the ship is in orbit of the planet, or even just somewhere nearby, and the landing craft goes down to the planet, then they shouldn't experience time that much differently, because they would both be about the same distance (relatively speaking) from the black hole, right?

[@a.thiago3842]

Exactly. That's a point that i saw in one video some time ago. But it can teach you how relativity works and it's awesome. But it's a big mistake if seen from cientific eyes. After i learned more about this movie, the only thing real there is the black hole. Everything else is just simple theories that has not been proved that much as a blackhole. This way you can separate both sides of a coin

[@GrandHighGamer]

Well, the inverse square law does mean close enough to the blackhole there'd be an extreme time gradient. But yeah, if they're in orbit of the planet that goes out the window.

[@k8ty5.0]

It’s a movie

[@abstract5249]

I thought the same thing, but maybe the time dilation caused by a supermassive black hole is just that dramatic. So being on the planet makes a huge difference compared to being on a ship slightly farther away from the black hole. Of course, the ship is also very close to the black hole compared to earth, so anyone on the ship would also experience a much faster passage of time compared to earth (if they got back to earth, they would find that the people would've aged years even though only minutes had passed on the ship).

[@Alexandra-Rex]

I saw something somewhere where they said the steepness of the tidal waves were exaggerated for dramatic effect. Big tidal are posdible, just they wouldn't be so dramatic.

[@chrimony]

Kip Thorne gave a talk on the physics of Interstellar and his role in it, and he was asked to come up with a simulation of the wormhole transition scene. He did, but it was rather unspectacular, so Nolan took some artistic license.

[@MikeMcCartney]

Kip Thorne's written some brilliant books on the subject - one of the best is "Black Holes & Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy" and another he wrote was on the science of this film which is also excellent. It's clear that one won't necessarily get spaghettified falling in towards the event horizon of a supermassive blackhole where the gravitational gradient is low enough, like those found at the centre of galaxies.

[@_BLACKSTAR_]

You can never reach the event horizon of either a stellar mass or a SMBH.Mainly cuz you will never find a SMBH without a very nasty accretion disc of ionized plasma whipping around at 50% the speed of light that would vaporize you shortly after contact. Even for argument sake if you could find a SMBH that had no accretion disc or charge and wasnt spinning at all, once past the event horizon you would be in spacetime that is falling faster than light, and the ionizing radiation would fry you almost instantly. Even if thats not true given the non locality of spacetime expansion, I think the exact opposite is happening inside the event horizon.I think the contraction of spacetime is extreme to the point where there is no more up down left or right, only one direction toward the singualrity and it would appear to be all around you and closing in due to the extreme curvature of space. But most certainly, once across the event horizon, that point in space becomes an event in your past that you can no longer return to and all possible futures lead to you hitting the singularity.Just like you cannot avoid next Tuesday.

[@paffles6696]

@@_BLACKSTAR_ Have you read a recent paper by Roy Kerr? It's too soon to speak of a scientific consensus but he makes a very compelling argument that singularities don't exist because the the movement of spacetime within and around a blackhole would be too extreme to allow for one. He argues that instead of a singularity you would have something like a 2 dimensional ring.

[@Grundrisse]

@@_BLACKSTAR_ "an event in your past that you can no longer return to and all possible futures lead to you hitting the singularity cannot avoid next Tuesday" This sounds so familiar. Did you lift this argument from Viktor Toth? I suggest not consuming answers from him uncritically. He more appropriately fits into the category of a physics hobbyist who likes to write about his hobby, or a proper science communicator, rather than a substantial physicist. Toth has a history of watering down many of the physics concepts, like those of QM for instance, to the point where they aren't simplifications anymore, rather they are incorrect assumptions unrelated to the theory and the math it's based upon.

[@Grundrisse]

@@_BLACKSTAR_ Like, I recall seeing some answers by him in which he alludes to the common view that quantum entanglement is nonlocal, and so must QM. But this is incorrect. Entanglement is natural, its absence would require explanation. It is a natural byproduct of having tensor-product Hilbert spaces. In fact, the fraction of states in a many-particle Hilbert space that are not entangled is zero. Moreover, entanglement does not betray locality (be it relativistic or nonrelativistic). It has been proven that quantum is local. It's just that people have not known how to think about locality with measurements until this paper comes: Locality and error correction in quantum dynamics with measurement by AJ Friedman. But tbf, it's a recent paper, so these facts are hidden to both the physicist and the layman masses.

[@Grundrisse]

@@_BLACKSTAR_ Anyway, neither you nor him has bothered to read The Science of Interstellar to understand why K Thorne thought Cooper could survive the singularities and then construct a reason for why you reject it. You probably don't even know the types of theoretical singularities Gargantua harbors, or the type of black hole Gargantua is.

[@TonyP9279]

When I first saw Interstellar, my first thought of the tesseract scene was that it was a nod to the information paradox; the library represents all of the information that is thought to be lost when it enters a black hole. This could still be a secondary meaning. The Penrose diagram makes better sense of this though as it suggests that time and space flips orientation inside of the event horizon such that moving around in space is actually moving around in time.

[@lewis7515]

But it's not a library, it's only Murph's bedroom? The suggestion is that is how it might appear if you had limitless access to all instants of Time - relating to [I presume] a finite period of time - where focussed on that particular exact portion of Space....It's all only the same, one, room - not a library. It reflects the same environment, over time - which means the same one wall, of the exact same shelving, and the exact same books that were ever on there - but only those exact same books.

[@indungismccoy1958]

@@lewis7515tbf, I don’t see how it’s impossible for there to be an infinite amount of these libraries of specific places in space throughout time

[@notachannelanymore-y1g]

Any indication of time and space flipping orientation would be due to an artifact in the representation of the coordinate space. Time is simply an arbitrary quantization of the direction of entropy, for the specific purpose of human perception. It is not an actual physical thing. There are many reasons why we cannot travel through time, but principal among them is that this is simply meaningless. The most practical interpretation of time travel would look something like fast-forwarding or rewinding the macrostate of whatever given system, which happens to be entirely impractical.

[@rafaellz2134]

Great video. Regarding the closing of the "throat" for the wormhole, I do not fully agree with you. You suggest that traveling through a wormhole would cause it to collapse due to gravitational forces. However, if we consider a future advanced civilization capable of creating a wormhole, they would have already utilized exotic matter (in this context, we don't know how) to establish and stabilize it initially. Therefore, the issue of stability during travel is irrelevant. The same technology and exotic matter that created the wormhole could also be used to maintain its stability, allowing safe passage through it. In this context, an advanced civilization's ability to keep the wormhole open would negate the risk of collapse during traversal.

[@GearForTheYear]

I had a falling out with an old friend years ago. He loves watching Astrum and his favorite movie is Interstellar. While what happened between us is irreparable, I will always appreciate the positive impact he made on my life when I needed it most. I hope you’re doing well, buddy. Enjoy the video 👍

[@Timbo6669]

Women always come between good friends.

[@SunBear69420]

Honestly im tearing up a bit. Life sucks man.

[@Sylar-451]

​@@SunBear69420are you the old friend??

[@SunBear69420]

@Sylar-451 i am not.. but i am in a very similar situation. My old best friend knows i love interstellar and astrum. But he wont talk to me. Ive tried for over 2.5 years to reach out and just het ignored

[@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs]

If you guys were my friends I would have stopped talking to you as well. Get a grip

[@vibhav_m]

6:14 should note here that Kip Thorne said that the scene of them going through the wormhole was extremely unrealistic. There's an hour long presentation of Kip explaining the science behind the movie on the channel 'Science & Cocktails' where he shows what the transit would actually look like.

[@MrMcp76]

Not only does he show what the transit would have been really like, but also answers SOOOO many more questions I had about the movie and explains the science behind it in such an amazing way that I love the movie even more than I did before! Watching it again tonight!! Go watch that video, everyone!

[@drx1xym154]

*Actually?* _Theoretically!_

[@londomolari5715]

He also did a book on the whole thing.

[@joshallen128]

imagine a black hole being next to uranus... oh wait

[@HyperspaceCafe]

Everyone fucking knows that nerd. It’s a goddamn movie. Derp.

[@drgonzo123]

I love black holes. I think they are the most fascinating objects we know about. I find with most things in nature, the more beautiful a phenomenon, the more deadly, or vise versa. I just can’t wrap my mind around the physics of how they work. I love the fact that the first ever photos of a black hole were published on my birthday. April 10, 2020.

[@senorpepper3405]

🕳

[@Piaseczno1]

Well now, Chap, ain't you just a four-year old smorty pantz.

[@fineggb1]

Wow you’re pretty smart for a 4 year old

[@drgonzo123]

@@fineggb1 ummm, I was born on April 10th, and the first pic of the black hole was released to the public on that day, in 2020. That doesn’t mean I was born in 2020. lol

[@fineggb1]

@ it’s a joke pal

[@ericthetuber]

There are a couple of assumptions that people keep imposing on the movie. 1. The beings that placed the wormhole are human. 2. The wormhole is a wormhole the way we understand it. We already understand the "wormhole" as a structure placed by an advanced civilization that appears to want to help us, therefore we only use the word wormhole because that's how it appears to us. 3. Gargantua is a black hole. Again we have information that it is a structure built by advanced beings. The critique, therefore, that black holes don't operate that way is invalid. It isn't a black hole. Like "wormhole" we have labeled it to be what it appears to be to us, and that may not be what it actually is. If the beings are trying to help us, they would not build an impassable wormhole, nor a spaghettifying black hole.

[@androkles04]

I adore this movie, it's probably in my top 5 of all time. Black holes have fascinated me ever since middle-school, so this movie's beautiful and terrifying portrayal of it was amazing.

[@JohnDunne001]

I agree, definetly in my top 5. The music is incredible and really adds to the movie. The "it's not possible. No, it's necessary" scene is a masterpiece all on its own.

[@biomimetical]

I was part of the R&D team that created the Interstellar wormhole at Dneg (Sylvan Dieckmann). It was a massively rewarding experience for me as I love physics, and working with Kip was just brilliant. Oliver the lead scientist, the rest of the team and I, all worked really hard on getting things right; As part of my work I rewrote a pathtracer called Mantra to work with the 'relativistic' pathtracing libraries we created so artists could use the software called Houdini with the Dneg renderer directly, that was great fun. All this work has directly influenced my current project called Aten7; it's a 'Culture' style sci-fi based 100 years in the future and is hard science based, specifically so that it helps create discourse and education in STEM principles. It's also heavy on Biomimetics principles (something I've studied for a long time and which I wrote a lot of the Wikipedia page on).

[@biomimetical]

Yes sorry that's a bit of a plug haha, but it's worth checking out! :D

[@vegasflyboy67]

I would like to see a video on the prospect of capturing a meteorite, putting it in orbit and mining it. I think there's a lot more to the story than just the technical aspects of it. The politics of this sort of endeavor would be an interesting subject. I believe some people would be apposed, fearing the possibility of it hitting earth as well as ownership and many other things.

[@deepak_nigwal]

mining asteroids or meteors is practically useless, and non profitable for any firm, whether govt or private. Its just not worth it. The economics and finances would never balance out, and it would not profit anyone at all.

[@bobagonoosh8483]

Oh a For All Mankind video? Great idea! I'd want him to break down the season 2 ending. That ending got me in the feels real hard. For All Mankind and The Expanse need some Astrum breakdowns!!

[@Gizziiusa]

how about a large enough asteroid hitting our moon causing it to change orbit enough to cause Earth changing phenomena, like the tides rising much higher than normal henceforth.

[@shivamsolanke4660]

3:53 Creating a paradox where you enter and do not enter the portal breaking reality and also my brain. 😂😂😂

[@Eltaurus]

12:35 - a few corrections: 0) I think this is meant to be a photon sphere, insthead of photosphere (which is, basically, a surface layer of a star and has no relation to black holes) 1) photon sphere is not located at the edge of the event horizon, in fact it is 1.5 times further from the center (in terms of Schwarzshield radial coordinate) 2) the orbits of the photon sphere are unstable, which means that no photons get captured at this distance. on the contrary, they are being repelled from this region of space (the one's with the lower impact parameter fall inside and follow beyond the even horizon, while the ones with the larger impact parameter escape outside to infinity) 3) consequently, the light does not accumulate around the photon sphere, so no spikes of radiation would be observed, in the opposition to what is stated at 13:09

[@larrywalsh9939]

Being on the surface of the water planet would be no different than being in orbit of it, since there would be very little difference in the distance to the black hole's event horizon, so time wouldn't be going any faster on the surface than it would be for the ship in orbit.

[@FuSoR1]

then please watch the movie again and you will see, that the ship in orbit is in an orbit around the black hole. farther away from millers planet, not in orbit around millers planet

[@larrywalsh9939]

@@FuSoR1 I couldn’t remember, but I thought that might be the case - so in that case that lander has an absolutely absurd fuel supply, since it can not only land and take off and get back up to orbit without refueling, but even leave orbit. Absurd.

[@alicaramba7680]

@@larrywalsh9939 Why you care? It's sci-fi movie only by advertisement. In reality it's a fantasy movie. You may listen to movie fans on fandom, I recite "Considering the blight is a mere plot device, it could be seen as a parable of the hardships faced by humanity in its History". In short, even fans of this movie understand impossible things are happening and it has nothing to do neither with science, neither with sci-fi.

[@evanmcdonald9134]

@@alicaramba7680 this is a video talking about the science backing the movie. A lot of people watching this care about the science behind the movie

[@Maddinhpws]

@@FuSoR1 In that case it would still be barely any difference. Any distance they would have to the planet, would barely matter.

[@kmolnardaniel]

Actually, spagettification not happens with every black hole, only smaller ones. Bigger black holes has smaller degree of gravitational change per distance, so the pulling force is more even.

[@Michael-sb8jf]

no it would still happen it all depends on how far you are from the singularity. You wouldn't notice any significant spaghettification until you are near the singularity. The way the math works the event horizon for larger black holes would be no where near close enough for the spaghettification to happen unlike a stellar black hole or other dense object FYI you are technically experiencing spaghettification right now. the earth gravitational pull is stronger at your feet than your head assuming you are standing/sitting up. its just that its not strong enough to rip you apart

[@revmatchtv]

I would absolutely love to see a second episode on this beloved film! Yes, it got a lot wrong, but those make excellent points for you to explain how it works according to current theory.

[@Drunkbobnopantss]

this is part 1 so naturally we can assume its coming

[@dimitrijensk2845]

“They” saved Cooper from the black hole and put him into the Tesseract.

[@tjg5619]

4:00 I like the way u had the wormholes moving away from each other, what if the space between the wormholes was such that u we’re further than light could travel to ur past self and therefore u couldn’t interact with ur past self and solving the paradox? Not sure if it’s said later in the episode or in one of the papers written about interstellar, just thought this stuff is fun to talk about

[@volrath77]

The photon orbit in the photon sphere (not photosphere) is unstable and photons can leave the orbit by either gaining or losing energy. If they gain energy, they escape out of the orbit. If they lose energy, they fall in.

[@jewymchoser]

Wouldn't travelling between Miller's planet and back to the main ship require an insane amount of fuel due to the extreme gravitational differences?

[@hopeseekr]

No. Because when you're going out of time dialation, the faster-moving time decreases the amount of fuel you need.

[@jewymchoser]

​@@hopeseekr Really? To the planet and coming back? Getting out of our planet's or Sun's gravity well requires tons of fuel and the time distortion is negligible. FYI: I have no idea what I am talking about, just curious :)

[@hopeseekr]

@@jewymchoser The equation for fuel required is a combination of mass of the ship, gravity of the planet/star, and time. If time is massively dialated, so that 1 hour on the surface is like 10 years in near orbit, it means that time is drastically reduced in the equation the more you go up into space, thus requiring less fuel. Basically, it assumes the planet was already relatively less dense and most of the gravity we witness is from the pull of the black hole (thus the massive waves).

[@hopeseekr]

The waves are massive because, in part, they too are affected by time dialation. At 10 years to 1 hour, you can assume that at the top of the wave, time is moving substantially faster than at the bottom of the wave, resulting in less "effect of gravity", thus super tall.

[@hopeseekr]

There's a good stargate sg-1 episode where O'Neill is being pulled into a Stargate connected to a blackhole. He has to spend enormous amounts of energy (closer to the gravity well) to keep from being sucked in, but Teal'c is able to pull him up with way less force expended. Seems they did their research.

[@larrywalsh9939]

The notion of chronological paradoxes stemming from time travel might be based on faulty reasoning - if you were to go through a time portal to go back in time to stop yourself from going to the time portal, you theoretically have not created a paradox, because you already DID go through in your personal timeline. What you'd be doing instead is interfering with the path of the timeline of a different version of you. It would only create a paradox if that action altered your own past, i.e., events that you had already experienced, which is not the case here, according to the Many-Worlds interpretation of quantum physics.

[@Dziki_z_Lasu]

The Copenhagen interpretation explains perfectly all paradoxes in the film. As it is a film and we are observers of the single time line other realities collapsed after the first interaction from the future, so the appearance of the wormhole, forcing the loop to be completed. It doesn't deny the existence of free will so you can always make a googleplex (rather a smaller number because of Planc time) films with different scenarios, probably mostly about corn farming. Edit: After rethinking other decisions up to delivering the last crucial message had no importance. They were just making a reality with the wormhole appearance not existing.

[@Dasni12]

Like what they did in avengers endgame

[@TFDwolf]

It is based on faulty reasoning, but not the one you mentioned. Space time can flow at different rates, but it never goes backwards, and is always locally consistent. Even if portal 1's local time is twice as fast as portal 2 (the exit), it doesn't mean that you've gone back in time. Say you leave portal 1 at 10am, spend an hour at portal 2 and then head back to portal 1. Since you spent an hour at portal 2, it's actually 12pm at portal 1 when you return (because time moves twice as fast there). But there is no situation where you can leave portal 1, then come back to portal 1 before you left. It "seems" like you go backwards because the clock has changed at portal 2, but that's because their flow of time is totally different, not that it is ACTUALLY in the past. Think of it this way: if you go to portal 2 and then try to walk back to portal 1, space time will speed back up as you approach, and you'll once again arrive later than you left.

[@krizy168]

Something I like to imagine regarding backwards time travels existence is that it’s most likely impossible, simply because there have been no time travelers from the future yet.

[@Jabberwockybird]

If time travel were possible, there would be a giant time war at the beginning of time. Think about it. You go back in time to kill your enemy. They go back farther than that to stop you first. Do you go back farther. Repeat until Adam and Eve are surrounded by time travelers all shooting at each other.

[@enriquegonsales5988]

What if time travel requires space travel first? Like for example a portal, something that can be navigated universally. Maybe the day humanity invents the first portal we ll see a group of time travelers coming to us out of this portal

[@Canev821]

That we know of or hasn’t happened yet.

[@aolson1111]

Not if it's Primer style time travel.

[@BjarkeHellden]

The massive time dilation is a result of presence of massive gravitational pull. Wouldn't a stable orbit under such conditions require an extremely fast orbital speed? To prevent the planet from falling in to the black hole

[@srf2112]

The first and most glaring place they went wrong is the beyond ludicrous giant wave scene. Lower gravity or not there's no way a 2000' wave just rolls over 2' of water without breaking and at walking speed nonetheless.

[@simmorg290]

My interpretation, which maybe is wrong, is that the wave was actually a tide due to the rotation of the planet and the gravity of the black hole. To be honest I didn't really worry about the details as it was quite a spectacular scene. My issue before then was just the idea of living on a planet orbiting a black hole. That just seemed like the mother of all mistakes.

[@illustriouschin]

"No way" can't argue with that.

[@skycloud4802]

I was more surprised they didn't see waves from space when trying to labs the ship. I figured the ripples would be seen from afar.

[@srf2112]

@@simmorg290 Unfortunately for me I'm analytical and can't help myself. Watching movies w me can be annoying.🤷‍♂

[@lewis7515]

But it's not a wave? It's a tidal surge. Unlike a wave, it's not in motion - that's the reason it exists: so what are you expecting to, "break"?.. They, haven't, "gone wrong" - you, have misunderstood? _Cooper_ calls it a wave - but what does he know, or care? His imperative is to communicate the danger and get the hell out of there - it's _we_ who have the benefit of time to consider the circumstances and come to more rational conclusions.

[@MegaFlorest]

*fingers in my ear, yelling "la la la la la la la la" Interstellar is perfect.

[@otaku-chan4888]

interstellar is all the better for having imperfections, actually! It's a film where they say that love can transcend space and time and math, after all.. so if you love this film, why not take this story in the spirit it was told? love doesn't require perfection. It's all the more charming for its dips into science fiction.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@otaku-chan4888 That's a pretty good interpretation

[@GermanTaffer]

You describe me very well.😂😂😂 At least we saw in Corona times a depiction of our black hole in the milky way and it was actually Gargantua.

[@ZennoreC]

Thanks for making this video explaining the accuracies and inaccuracies of the movie, and delivering it in a rather gentle language that doesn't make me feel like I was being called stupid for believing in inaccurate information about reality; It has certainly made me more curious about the subjects brought up in the video and I can't wait to watch the next one!

[@Saif-zf9vb]

Paradoxes only work when you’re looking beyond their timeline. That’s the way you’re meant to view them (imo).

[@s4098429]

Why should there be time dilation between characters on the surface of the planet and characters in orbit, yes there should be dilation between being on the back hole and being far away, but that’s not what happens in the movie. The gravity of the planet is not strong enough to take decades away, only the black hole. You should have mentioned that.

[@itoncemighthave9666]

Some people saying the movie is garbage with real garbage movies walking around. I wonder what movies they think are even just "good" at that point

[@gemtun2]

My mom hated interstellar bc the dad left his kid

[@Uncle-Ruckus-]

Your mom sounds basic af

[@brandonmartin8270]

Ha, women! 😂

[@sheaksadi]

Its for science Rise above

[@dazzlingzebra]

😂 If he hadn't left, everyone, including his kid, would have been doomed.

[@Cuppachoccy]

@@brandonmartin8270casual sexism

[@SeanLumly]

Well, to be fair, the it was presumed a black hole by the films protagonists, but was a man-made structure by some hyper-advanced future humans. The mere fact that it was engineered is a useful catch-all that may suggest that while it may have had features of a black hole, it may also have wholly distinct features consequent of its design.

[@lewis7515]

The black hole itself wasn't indicated to be a construction, don't be ridiculous? What was indicated to be constructed was the tesseract net, just behind the event horizon, to catch Copper.

[@BillyHargrove]

​@@lewis7515no, thor survived a nuclear star, so its likely he can survive that

[@Nique25]

15:21 this paradox is always mind boggling

[@archygrey9093]

@08:00 If my big brain mathing is correct that means a clock in orbit will be 1 second faster after about 60 years.

[@debug8377]

let's launch a tiny long lasting cubesat to observe this effect

[@arminius1453]

5:21 so, in the movie, they should have solved the gravity equation before even launching, before even the lazarus missions, otherwise they wouldn't make past the wormhole.

[@LutherMahoney]

I still don't know why they went down to that planet near a black hole.

[@Homerow1]

IIRC they saw it had water and wanted to see if it had life or was habitable? Or something like that.

[@aserta]

Because P L O T. Which ultimately why this movie is overrated. The plot has some pretty stupid things that are jarring and make it really difficult to watch.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

I would think the tidal forces would be pretty extreme even on people. Like squishing you every time the planets rotation put you closer/further from the black hole. But maybe it’s not a dramatic amount. Gravity goes on forever but the intensity of gravity fades out pretty quick.

[@andymouse]

Well said.@@aserta

[@LutherMahoney]

i cringed so hard on a few things so yeah its plot@@aserta

[@haleemulhassan9158]

To me the biggest confusion is why do we even discuss “entering” a blackhole, knowing fully well the temperatures and radiation around it. Its like saying what would happen if you land on a surface of the sun, will you be able to jump or play tennis etc. its all irrelevant because the moment you are close enough, you will be burnt to a crisp from the heat and radiation.

[@lasskinn474]

yeah - also maybe 80% of you would enter and another would get kicked out as radiation from the disc anyway.

[@nerinav]

Interstellar is a beautiful and thought provoking movie. The way it depicts Love ❤️ as the only force which transcends time and space....is a true beauty.

[@Prestooooon]

Saw this in theaters for the first time last night. Had only heard it’s one of the best ever for years. Exceeded my expectations. Sheeesh

[@OozyPro]

Normal people: Interstellar is cool Sols RNG people: YOOO I GOT GARGANTUA OMGGGGGG

[@RealJayson_]

was looking for this 💀

[@ethangaming2345]

@@RealJayson_same lol

[@luvaxiomm]

brainrot

[@rocketpadgamer]

@@RealJayson_ I WILL EAT YOU

[@Andrew-kz8dq]

I would love to see an analysis of the planets in interstellar 😊

[@TheToastyN1nja]

Guys. Interstellar is in theaters right now. Just letting you know. Limited time this holiday season

[@djclarke1984]

The years of missed messages scene is one of the very few scenes of any movie to get a reaction out of me. Masterclass directing and acting. Amazing film.

[@lordalbertt]

Ignore spatteigiccation, anything in real rife that becomes an aura in sols rng gets Solified! Its impossible to escape

[@equilibrium-k2k]

fr bro

[@MrSchivy]

In the end, Interstellar is more a science fiction based drama, and one of the freaking best. It’s about answering the question: “Who’s gonna save us?” “No one. Only we can do it. It’s US from the future”

[@jackmehoff1832]

I watched this Movie at an Imax Theater on Shrooms. I freaked out during the scene where he fell into the Black Hole and the Paramedics got called.

[@nicdemai]

I remember reading about some of the theories of black hole and I really liked the one where, as you crossed the event horizon you were no longer falling in space but you are falling in time. Minus the obvious issues with that theory, i think it’s quite beautiful when you think about it. The light crossing the event horizon can’t leave it because it’s no longer in your time. But constantly moving to the future.

[@andrewwebster6025]

I have seen this film three times now and keep finding out new things that I missed. Although some of the concepts can be considered far fetched , a lot of it is kind of possible in theory so i could go along with that. All in all a brilliant movie.

[@PlayNowWorkLater]

Really enjoyed the movie. And I enjoyed your take on where science and science fiction play parts in making the movie digestible for a larger audience.

[@JAB6322]

Late Happy New Year Astrum! Thanks for the first 2024 🥳🥳🥳

[@HaBaGu]

Imagine in like 20 years this is actually what happens and this movie got everything correct

[@aresaurelian]

Unlikely, but not impossible.

[@HaBaGu]

@@aresaurelian Technically if the universe is infinite then somewhere this is actually how everything happened

[@Moborite]

damn

[@braytonhougland8505]

Y'all might hate me for this but I thought it was a lore video about gargantua from sols rng😭

[@Christobanistan]

My additions: 1. Any planet anywhere close to a black hole to have significant time dilation would be destroyed instantly! 2. Cooper somehow accelerates to the black hole in maybe an hour! 3. Spegettification somehow doesn't happen as he gets close! Lots more , but you get the point.

[@lizekamtombe2223]

The least plausible thing in Interstellar is that the Finns would not already have annexed a planet made mostly of salmiak (ammonium nitrate).

[@winwinmilieudefensie7757]

Or the dutch 😂

[@dawesome_sauce]

Interstellar is a family adventure drama that uses a couple of intriguing bits of science to make for visually interesting set-pieces. Love the movie to death, but yeah, it treats science mostly the same way Hollywood in general treats science: a prop to do neat things on screen.

[@Maddinhpws]

Yeah I have no idea how Interstellar was regarded as this "True science scifi" show. The only show I have seen that actually adheres relatively well to science is "The Martian". Interstellar fits more in line with "The Core"

[@aolson1111]

Read Kip Thorne's book about the science of Interstellar. He lays out how all but the most obviously fictional parts (like the tesseract) are theoretically possible. I'm curious what makes you more qualified than him.

[@ostar22]

Where they went wrong was suggesting that hormones and synapses can overcome space and time

[@Ironstarfish]

It's one of my favorite space movies other than Event Horizon. But with Interstellar I felt like I traveled with them.

[@dantheman4961]

Why would there be time dilation on Miller's planet? Gravity is the same there as on Earth. What am I missing?

[@rhinowings2610]

The sun’s gravitational pull is much weaker than a black hole’s

[@a1paradox19]

Interstellar was perfect in every way. Just saved ya 18 mins. You’re welcome.

[@GenesisAria]

There are countless other issues with interstellar; such as the issues with the mechanics of the "leave something behind" nonsense; you don't leave something behind, you have to PUSH something behind. The weird ice clouds on the ice planet. The internal tunnel depiction of the wormhole. Black holes found to be not being singularities throws a wrench in just about everything. Someone that wanted to pick apart the film could go on and on and on with inaccuracies in the film.

[@agomez191]

0:41 more like "strayed from science fiction to fantasy"

[@woofwoof3d]

Thank you for this comment 🙏

[@Ghostalking]

My issue with the grandfather paradox is that it assumes time is linear relative to humans. What if what we call 2 timelines: A - Cooper goes to blackhole B - Cooper stops himself from going are just two parts of the same sequence AB which in this case would just be repeating ABABABAB since each sequence would have for consequence the next. From a human standpoint it doesn’t make sense because we think of A and B as two separate timelines that have to have an end chronologically greater than its beginning, but nothing says time has to abide by those rules. To time, it’s possible that AB = C (a single timeline)

[@feralOx]

the amount of loud repeat ads on KZbin now is almost enough to stop using it. But some subscriptions like you are worth it.

[@OpticfIare]

massive props for add at the end of the video also very well put video 10/10!

[@leftrom9738]

The problems with the planet orbiting Gargantua were: a) The distance between orbit and planet-surface is ridiculously small (compared to planet-back hole distance) for that time-dilation to have happened, in that extent. Even then, the crew should have taken this time-dilation into the account, which brings us to b) b) The most valuable resource was time (Earth was dying, year by year). Decades passed because they went down on the surface; time that Earth didn't have to spare. I remember thinking the above when I first watched the movie, and it stroke me as pretty stupid; it still does. For all the scientific research that was embedded in the movie, this is by far the most silly dramatization thing.

[@guyledouche7939]

The real problem with Interstellar is Matthew McConaughey's character acts like he has only one kid throughout the whole film.

[@ElishaMukumba]

Murph was the one who he didn’t make peace with before he left. That’s why he was haunted by her memory.

[@yodz1898]

He knew Tom would be alright. Tom said to him he enjoys his life on the farm. Also Cooper cried during Tom’s video messages to him. He cared a lot for Tom.

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

The tidal forces of the black hole on anything approaching it would have spaghettified it long before entering the event horizon. The accretion disc is proof of that - whatever once solid objects would have been spaghettified into plasma and then sent spinning into orbit around the black hole.

[@MikeMcCartney]

Not for supermassive black holes where the gradient can be quite low. Kip Thorne has written books about this and you could fall through the event horizon of a supermassive black hole (like at the centre of a galaxy) without noticing you'd passed the event horizon.

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

@@MikeMcCartney OK, thanks. I looked this up and you are quite correct. Strangely anti-intuitive, but the mathematics make it so. The Schwarzschild radius (the event horizon) is proportional to the mass of the black hole while tidal forces at the event horizon are proportional to the inverse of the square of the radius, so tidal forces become weaker as the mass and the diameter of the event horizon of the black hole gets bigger.

[@6ghastlyghoul9]

@@MikeMcCartney It's not possible. You cannot travel as fast as the speed of light which cannot escape the event horizon and you would die far, far before entering it.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

The question should not be can we.......but, more of, should we 🤔 We continue to demonstrate as a society that we are so destructive with tech...and never ever really use it for its original intent....for the most part....it will end up being our demise, rather than our savior.

[@RedDeadReverie]

I’m really glad I stumbled upon this video! Thanks for breaking everything down so neatly 👍🏻

[@ryanh521]

It doesn't matter how spectacular your production is if the writing just isn't very good. I enjoyed some aspects of Interstellar, but the trope of "I was able to go back in time with the info needed to save to world!!" is boring and has been done over and over again. It didn't work here, it didn't work with Arrival.

[@andymouse]

Nah Arrival did it better.

[@shiranuiiiz]

we having 1 in 430m gargantua with thus one 😂😂

[@jamjamjam213]

absolute brainrot

[@normal_dude8256]

@@jamjamjam213its sol's rng bro the real brainrot is yapping about a film

[@normal_dude8256]

I clicked on that cuz im a restless gambler in sol's rng🔥🔥

[@shiranuiiiz]

@@jamjamjam213 ur the one who‘s brainrott here

[@xrayultimate9k]

This comment has a 1 in 430,000,000 chance of you finding it.

[@oblimidon]

What's your math?

[@EnricoRodolico]

4:00 this assumes there is some way to kill yourself faster than the speed of light, which requires two wormholes that satisfy this property.

[@TFDwolf]

True, but also not entirely correct. The problem is that local space time will always seem to flow in real time. If you enter the first portal and exited the second, less time will have elapsed at the second portal, but that doesn't mean that you traveled backwards in time relative to the first portal. Both have advanced through time, but ones local time is faster than the other. So there is no situation where you return to where the first portal is before you entered it.

[@HashNtheBox]

You can't even in branch theory. Everything is constant so going into the past can't remove that. Paradox can never be formed cause all is constant.

[@opus3043]

Now I completely understand that this is just a movie science analysis, but on the topic around 6:00 in couldn’t you use the dark matter or dark energy to fill in for the anti-mass in this equation? Because if I am remembering correctly either dark matter or dark energy is something that is pushing against gravity which is assisting with the expansion of the universe as it is now. Very late comment I know lol

[@bodhip]

I don’t see why not

[@opus3043]

@@bodhip appreciate the response haha, was not expecting to get one at all

[@bodhip]

@@opus3043 no worries lol

[@xyfnthrn714]

Yes this but I guess like the guy said it doesn't exist , I can see why some people can go mad

[@senaa2267]

agreed, not much is discovered about those but this is science fiction, so it could be something like that, or it could be an entirely different matter/energy/force that makes the equation work

[@nickelundertone]

clickbait title earns you a downvote

[@kismo_x]

Sols rng!!!

[@srcalculi]

I knew I would find atleast one comment about sols rng

[@firespace9305]

​​@@srcalculisame😂

[@vinisher]

I hope you never get a global