The Reality Of Game Dev

[@CodeMonkeyUnity]

This video is a great example of the power of experience. Every single one of those "walls" is really intimidating at first but then becomes much much easier to climb after the first time. The first time I made a Save System it probably took me a week, now I can easily build one in an hour. Best of luck with the game!

[@saultoons]

Totally agree, thank you CodeMonkey good to see you here, keep up the good work

[@progCan]

heyyyy codemonkey, i'm a fan! its nice to see you here!

[@BusinessWolf1]

Then you should create a semi generalized solution with a bit of docummentation about the rough edges and post it online for yourself and others to jumpstart games.

[@mothcatcher893]

​@@BusinessWolf1 Unfortunately, I don't think that would help. There are similar solutions like you are saying but all they do is allow you to ignore that part of your game. It's like movement code, most developers maybe won't find it interesting to work on and an experienced developer will have it done in an hour while a new developer will take days but the experience gathered from working on movement code is essential. It's also best to have a mechanic like this tightly-knit to the game itself rather than a "all-games" solution. Trying to avoid these hurdles just does more damage than it's worth. It's the difference between learning to make a personalized and tightly-knit system in about an hour and then maintaining it as you expand the game vs. getting another asset to save you 30 minutes of your entire dev process or even worse saving you from having to actually know how it works, inevitably leading you to having to work around the solution, inevitably leading to jank.

[@kuuly3334]

The Obstacle is the Way!!!

[@TheLetterIsH]

This is the reality xD! The feeling of satisfaction you get when everything just works after all the hard work you've done is just another level of bliss.

[@saultoons]

Yup, thought I'd show the pain and suffering this time around :'D But you're right, the satisfaction is worth it

[@NightHutStudio]

It's amazing how even the simple things can still give you that bliss, even after years of gamedev! *Wooo my little shape moves around!*

[@jakedev7363]

As and indie game developer KZbinr I experience everything mentioned in this video. I honestly hate how people think that we can just pull a lever an magically make a game with ease. It’s even more difficult when you try to make KZbin videos on your progress that is slow and painful. To all my fellow indie game devs out there… don’t give up!

[@Inv1cht]

and were not gonna talk about the pain of making multiplayer. For me i dont care how long it will take or how hard it will be im not gonna give up (i know everyone says that)

[@jakedev7363]

Yea I have been game developing for almost 3 years and it still baffles me@@Inv1cht

[@aksvan]

Same

[@peezieforestem5078]

You CAN pull a lever and magically make a game! You just have to believe in yourself! P.S. If you want to know more, look up "gambling".

[@stickguy9109]

Bro fr if I take too long to upload that's bad I have to finish it fast but I literally can't there's so much stuff to do

[@FiveJungYetNoSmite]

The worst wall is when you spent a week climbing walls only to realize it cant work that way so you have to destroy all the walls you built, leaving nothing for your effort. wait I think i messed up the metaphor but you get it.

[@saultoons]

Nah that works fine, I have to do that sometimes too! :D

[@TheLightningYu]

Wasn't it Edison who said: "I haven't failed. I just found out 10.000 ways how it doesn't work!"?

[@on-hv9co]

"Nothing easy is every worth doing" - many humans over time. I love the wall analogy and as many other developers in the comments pointed out, they vibe with it as well. I think it serves as an important insight into any creative endeavors. I view walls as a sort of integrity barrier between creation and creator. Should a creator be stepping beyond their means, the ideal creation will be protected by the restraints of the wall. Scaling the wall IS solving the problem.

[@saultoons]

Love that interpretation, you're 100% right. Thanks for watching

[@dmitriyvasilyev6408]

Respect for game developers. You guys are making our miserable lives significantly happier. All games on my wishlist are indie or AA. I believe that the future is in the hands of small studios, because innovation is the best part of entertainment.

[@SomethingBak]

Amazing video! I like how you highlight that the death pits that make people give up on their project can be overcome with enough determination.

[@saultoons]

Yes! I will be making another video especially on this graph and strategies to overcome it soon probably, I think it can be useful for people and myself hehe

[@Dementedd118]

You nailed it ONE HUNDRED percent. I feel like my whole game dev career has been brick wall after brick wall and especially full of those brick walls where you don't accomplish much or anything at all.... I thought I was alone on it but seeing this video makes me realize that more game devs go through this same thing more often than what's talked about. Thanks for making this great video!

[@micahneveu4633]

Every. Single. Time.

[@merfinator5984]

This is why I believe tenacity is one of the best trait a CS major or specifically game developer could have. Because there will be a lot of “what am I doing wrong now” moments lol

[@saultoons]

I think I have to agree, my sheer stubbornness is what gets me through most issues I face

[@ChristianoMDSilva]

I have started my solo game development path, from scratch, without any background apart from: I'm a gamer by soul and understand the game logic. Learning a language from scratch without any bases is tough, I end up in that dip quite a lot, but there's nothing quite like the feeling of fixing a bug or making something work just the way you intended 🙂 I am yet to release my first game ever, but best wishes to everyone walking this path, you can do this 💪🏻

[@BroadleafDigital]

Looking at the small wins always helps to keep the perspective of the end goal in focus! We've been working on our game for 4 years now and for the most part, climbing that wall has been a constant journey of figuring out where to put your hands and feet with every push. But there are always little rests you can take along the way to see just how far you've come. The push is still wonderful all the same, however, so it's always important to keep climbing and remember to take breaks. Thank you for the video - Very interesting, inspiring and motivating!

[@LaSagadeF]

Almost everything about art, obviously with video games included as games are also a form of art, is about dealing with failure. If you can overcome failure and frustration, and move forward, you will be able to go from checkpoint to checkpoint. Excecution is the key to all this, but without checkpoints it would be impossible to excecute anything. So it's not the big success, the conclusion to the journey, what matters but every mark that you leave on the track in order to understand how you got there and which perfectly explains how you got to the summit

[@john9francis]

Don’t give up! I’m psyched to play the game when it comes out. And it’s amazing how much you’ve already accomplished. When I’m working on big projects and I get stuck and intimidated, I like to remind myself of how far I’ve come, and if I can make it this far I can make it further. Keep up the good work!

[@saultoons]

Definitely not giving up John this is all part of the process, thanks for the love and support

[@Togis]

This is the best "dev log" I have seen in a while! Thanks for sharing your struggles, it makes ours seems less insurmountable.

[@saultoons]

Thanks for watching Togis

[@HE360]

The wall climbing analogy between 0 and 1:35 sounds like my experience when going through college and grad school.

[@saultoons]

YUP! Applies to anything which requires a long term effort I think :D

[@LeonardoTx1000]

Sometimes its very hard to open up the IDE and start coding. Videos like this are great, they make you feel excited and gives you the little push you need to overcome your fears and open up the IDE again. Thank you for sharing your experience! :)

[@therealwhite]

This video made me realize, as a visually minded artistic person, that game dev isn't the kind of problem I want to be solving with my creative work. In essence you helped me finally convince myself that it's okay that all of this mathematical mental work isn't for me, and it's making me want to do what I'm actually good at. So you've actually inspired me lol

[@davdev793]

Thanks for sharing! Just stumbled on your video when I was browsing youtube and it was a happy finding. For me projects at the beginning are so exciting that I can barley sleep, than it becomes something like the gym for me. I become reluctant to go back working but as soon as I start all resistance fades away and I can barley stop 😅

[@saultoons]

I absolutely LOVE that initial project feeling, the excitement is unmatched. Only soon to be stricken down by the reality of the work ahead, but you're right, as soon as you start it becomes easier. Thanks for watching davdev!

[@darkaberledev8741]

Great video! the walls, mountains and dark pits are always there but your totally on point that when you get past one (even sometimes the smallest) you feel great after.

[@IamNewbo]

Yeah, when you get really deep into making your game you just sometimes give up due to how hard it will get. I have many projects that are just unfinished and stuff. But when it works out and you make a full game it's just so satisfying! Great video btw my dude. Good luck with your game

[@pancewarrior]

I agree that this is the reality of game dev! really nice video! I struggle with these things too but I'm determined to keep trying your video is inspiring and helpful!

[@saultoons]

You got this pancakedestroyer!!!!

[@blackcitadel9]

Only found your vid now, glad to hear things got better. I relate, I'm learning a bunch of skills at once, (they are related, but different skills) the idea was that if I hit a wall in one, I can progress another whilst I work through the wall, but had the recent misfortune of hitting walls in all of them at once. Talk about a morale destroying momentum killer. I'm dealing with them slowly though.

[@FactiDev]

One of the best videos that truly explains the frustration of a gamedev and the obstacles they can face but in a really good way!

[@im_Hide]

Man I feel you, I've come out of that pit of doom and gloom and am back on the horse. But fuck it can be rough at times, especially when that hurdle progressively gets bigger and bigger... Impostor syndrome can kick in at times and doubting yourself, I think it's good just to take a break and just come back to it with a fresh mind, but make sure to come back to the project. Anyway I needed to see your video bro, have a good one and best of luck with your game

[@guilhermecayeiro6522]

It's incredible how real this example of the walls is

[@ElianeGameDev]

I can already feel that this is 100% true, and yet after 2 years of learning Unity, I'm only at the beginning of my indie game dev journey :)

[@saultoons]

The journey never ends, keep going Eliane!!! :D

[@Mouquette]

At first, you love your idea, you love your game and then, you start to hate it, you want to avoid it. Even more when you have a deadline. That's the hardest part, we often give up at this moment. That's why there is so many unfinished project. But the reward of finishing it is probably the best one. Don't give up !

[@saultoons]

Yeah it's crazy how much you start to dislike your own project, but it's worth it as you say! Thanks for the encouragement Mouquette :)

[@Mouquette]

@@saultoons No problem ! We're on the same boat x)

[@Thunderin11]

I watched now 5 different Game Dev videos and this one was the most entertaining, clicked the Like button, thank you for the creativity of the video.

[@Li0nSword]

Great video. I'm basically in that exact phase you were describing in the video. I'm trying to get my playtest up and keep running into walls. Hopefully I can get the playtest up soon!

[@saultoons]

You got this! Keep it up

[@Li0nSword]

@@saultoons thank you, finally figured out the analytics, playtest coming this week hopefully! I would appreciate a wishlist from you if you have time

[@seifullaah73]

You are the best person to go to for acesprite tutorials and I wouldn't go anywhere else, I can follow along, just so easy to follow. Thanks I can start making my pixel animation.

[@Nounsi_Dev]

This video and the comment section is such a great place for every indie gamedev

[@N11196]

I hope you make it through until the end! Wish you the best of luck 🤞

[@saultoons]

No way I give up now, here til the end!!!!!!!!!!! :D Thanks for the luck

[@new-ez1gt]

I needed this vid to help me learn game design, I'll share it with the team I'm working

[@saultoons]

Thanks :D

[@Tenkite001]

That's so true, but when you finnaly reach your goal in game dev, for me it's the highest level of satisfaction you can get

[@aleiocus]

Thank you, wizard man, for showing the nitty gritty. I've yet to delve into the wonderful world of gamedev, but there was PLENTY of relatability throughout. Congrats on all them game gains 💪 The finished product is bound to be incredible with how much love and care you've put into it.

[@saultoons]

Aleiocus lets gooooooooooo!!!!!! Yeah I think relatable for any project really. One day this game will come out and we'll see hahaha Thanks for the love

[@NightHutStudio]

@aleicous good luck on your dive into gamedev! Definitely worth the journey and the small wins are so satisfying. Start small and build from there :)

[@aleiocus]

@@NightHutStudio Not sure if I have the time or the drive needed, but I'll definitely keep this in mind if I ever do manage to take the plunge 😁

[@NightHutStudio]

@@aleiocus only one way to find out! 🍀

[@blitzercreg]

You, my friend, have lit the fire back underneath me to start back on my game where I have hit a major wall that is probably 10 layers thick in and of itself. You stating the hard truth of basically "there will be walls" but being positive about has really helped me. Thank you. 🙏

[@cyberdrunkdev5256]

As an indie game solo developer i feel this kind of content very motivating. Keep at it mate!

[@pedroreislima4151]

This video was actually really interesting to be honest. Inspiring. these things we don't value to show can sometimes be exactly what other people need to see.

[@saultoons]

Keeping it real is often the biggest motivator I find it makes us realise that no-one is above us or superior or born with an incredible gift that we can never achieve - Most of the time it's just effort over time, and anyone can do it.

[@jasperzatch610]

got me crying by the end, thank you for sharing!

[@K7TZ]

Im almost at the mid part. Looking forward for this brick wall

[@TheRealBoof]

Like you said near the beginning, this pattern of brick walls is true for any major project. My background is in astrophysics and I'm trying to finish my PhD now, but I want to transition to game development because I realized a few years ago that game development is a major life goal for me. Brick walls are no stranger to me, and science has many of them, but it is very rare to have anything to be proud of until the very last wall. I learned to train my patience with the walls and found it is the single most useful skill I have in my game dev toolbox now. I believe that if you can find patience and hold your center, you can overcome any number of brick walls. I'm still relatively new to game dev, though, so take that with a grain of salt. Keep pushing, friend. You'll get there!

[@HomeFrogGames]

Can relate to this post so much. Are you me? ;-) I recently have completed my PhD and have been doing some hobbyist game dev on the side in Dreams, Procreate, Womp and Unity. I have noticed that the problem-solving skills of research really did help me lose fear of the brick walls in game dev. The one difference I noticed? Overcoming brick walls for a product that involves bringing your creativity to life, while expressing your personality, just feels so rewarding. This has been a level of passion as an emotion that I have not felt in my research. Since then I knew I will dedicate myself to making games after the PhD. And this time has finally come now. I still need to get to know more likeminded people to share these experiences though, I want this to be a social experience as Saultoons mentions - so feel free to connect if you ever want to!

[@Pallerim]

I will use this video in the beginning of my upcoming GameDev course with my students. Very honest and motivational, thank you so much!

[@saultoons]

That's awesome! Hope it doesn't scare anyone off :'D - the satisfaction of overcoming those problems is like no other, game dev has a special kind of creative fulfilment itch that no other medium can seem to scratch :) Best of luck to you and your students!

[@psychepathgame]

Thank you for trying our game out Saultoon. You are great! 🥳

[@Seancstudiogames]

Unexpected encouragement! 🎉 I remember when I was able to simply examine a block of code and understand perfectly how it worked. Now im learning something, in fact many many somethings all brand new. It’s intimidating for sure and it sure feels like I’m alone. Thankfully even though I’m a solo dev, there are others many others on this same journey. Thank you for posting.

[@ItsRascalRomy]

Im new to the channel and ive been watching all your tutorials and dev logs, they are incredibly inspiring! I already have Faceplant on my wishlist i cant wait to see the final game i wish you the best of luck! With life and game development 💛

[@saultoons]

Thanks for the love and support

[@jessislearning]

This video describes my life in the last few months. Thanks for doing it. I feel less lonely now

[@viktorpavlovych]

Awesome video! Thank you so much for the inspiration, Saultoons

[@mrsquiggles1379]

That was too inspirational I'm now remastering every game from my childhood

[@poppyirl]

Be patient, we here are excitedly waiting for the new videos. All the best.

[@saultoons]

Thanks for the reassurance poppy!!! Doing my best :D

[@thegamedevcave]

i feel this on a deep spiritual level. I hate it... but i'm pretty much addicted

[@saultoons]

Then you will overcome!!!

[@gabrieldelrosario6692]

Honestly, this video was more encouraging than anything This brought back painful memories of doing my game thesis for my cs course but this video is telling me that those experiences are the norm Im doing my game thesis under my second degree which is game design and development and i’ll carry this advice with me to keep climbing those walls

[@CC1.unposted]

Lemme tell You I started by creating first Python game Than an Anti curption system Than an physics engine And an custom renderer from scratch It's like fun stuff but not fun too but I enjoy the final results And Im making it silent and let user's creativeness fill it

[@saultoons]

Great work!!! Yeah its fun but not fun :'D But also super satisfying. Good luck with your projects

[@CC1.unposted]

@@saultoons imagine creating Walls Accordingly to your videos

[@CatDribble]

The only reward is a new wall to climb

[@TreshToons]

Glad you made this video for a different point of view, hadn't wishlisted the game yet, will now! best of luck Saul!

[@saultoons]

Thanks Tresh! Appreciate your support my dude

[@SeanStClair-cr9jl]

Actually a great video, I'm excited to see where your game and channel go!!! There are a lot of hobby gamedevs on the platform (and I love em all) but I like seeing a greater-than-average level of self awareness lol and I definitely learned some awesome stuff along the way here.

[@MrAbrazildo]

I never get bored about this. I made both simple and hard games, and enjoyed all moments, including bug hunting. The issue comes only when I set deadlines. This can lead even to burnout. It resembles more exhaustion than boredom.

[@NightHutStudio]

Lots of slippery slopes in gamedev. It's not easy, but knowing when to call it a day and return to the wall tomorrow is massive. The amount of times I've solved a problem within 10mins of coming back to it is nuts. Thanks for sharing your insight Saultoons!!

[@saultoons]

Well said! I've had that as well, I tend to go for a walk and it just magically solves itself. It's like my brain needs time for the system to update :'D

[@NightHutStudio]

@@saultoons I think that's almost literally what happens during REM sleep (and agree, walks are awesome for this!). In today's AI lingo, the brain needs time to do some back propagation. Otherwise you're just trying to hit the nail with the same wobbly hammer! It's strange being a hooman 🤷‍♂

[@untitledgamestudios]

LOVED this video. It is so painfully true and yet here we all are because it's just that damn fun and rewarding. Great video!

[@saultoons]

Couldn't have put it better myself, thanks for watching!

[@phantomfoxkyo7104]

Between creating the concepts, art, story, finally getting around to starting the programming, and virtually everything else for my first game (still basically brand new to coding on top of it all) I've got a lot on my plate. But y'know, it'd be so damn COOL to actually make my own games. I think once I really figure out how to get started, it'll all be worth entering unfamiliar territory and slowly squeezing the creative juices out of my brain.

[@saultoons]

You got this!!

[@Piperscpp]

I really like the intro, great music choice and story telling!

[@saultoons]

Thanks a lot, been trying to improve my storytelling abilities, more to come!

[@fourthpage8626]

The reality is (referencing the pokemon card blender video) "now how do I print it out and make money." For real though Saul, seeing you go through this and make it through this has been some of the most motivating work I've seen in a long time.

[@saultoons]

hahaha nice reference OG stuff! Thanks 4P, good to have you along for the journey

[@andygeers]

Great way to turn a season with little visible progress to share into an excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Keep going!

[@saultoons]

Thanks Andy, glad I managed to salvage something out of the experience! Thanks for watching

[@theluchenator]

I cannot describe how accurate that brick wall analogy is

[@tabatecuenta7192]

This was great. Thanks for sharing. Loved the animations.

[@thisguyispeculiar]

This video is the ultimate motivation for me to pursue my dream of game development.

[@skullcommandolabs]

oh boi, you are my hero ... loved the valley of despair :D, hope you can release your game soon ! Take care :)

[@christianschweda2530]

Thank you, good sir! I didn't know how much I needed to hear that - perfect timing.

[@saultoons]

You got this!!!!!!!!!!

[@PeterWitham]

Yep this is how it feels everytime I open my games to move them forward

[@sandorjuhasz8215]

I'm happy that you were able to fight your own demons and went towards the release. Game-dev is hard, this is the reason why not every people can make a game by him/herself. You can feel yourself special, if the game will be finished!! Keep up!

[@saultoons]

Thanks for the support!!! TO THE FINISH LINE

[@gel1769]

Amazing video as always! Thank you for sharing your experience, it's really inspiring :D

[@saultoons]

Glad you enjoyed it! Wasn't sure how this sort of video would do so I'm glad you like it

[@devratgames]

True story there! Thanks for this video, needed it

[@cravishlishdeveloper3633]

Its really true that valley of sorrow, when i get at that point sometimes i abandon my project

[@saultoons]

It's a very common thing I think, nothing to feel bad about. I will make another video especially on that life cycle of projects and how to overcome the dreaded dip of doom, I was going to put it in this video but it would've been far too long of a divergence :'D Thanks for sharing your experience, you're not alone

[@cravishlishdeveloper3633]

@@saultoons that would be a nice video! And it could help us too

[@PeterMilko]

I'm climbing dude. Also making a platformer come look :)

[@saultoons]

I’ve been keeping up with it bro it’s looking good, keep going!!!! 💪

[@PeterMilko]

Thanks man, good luck to both of us.@@saultoons

[@SecretZoneGames]

Sometimes these videos is all you need for motivation... love it

[@josephpurdy8390]

I have spent time developing a game with 30 different cards, and 6 polyhedral dice. I am on the 4th version after 3 years. The concept is nearly there. Next task is card layout design , manufacturing, marketing, and negotiations with retailers

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

In 1996, I crafted 18 custom map designs for Doom1 (two entire episodes). I can't express to everyone out there just how quickly I had to embody the spirit of "never permitting softlocks"... and that term really didn't exist back then (not from my perspective). Keep in mind, this was all on a 486DX 33Mhz machine. Yup. 💪😎✌️ To this day, people are STILL doing playthroughs of "Darkhell" and "Blakhell", though. 🎯

[@goodfractalspoker7179]

Last 5 seconds made me stand up and salute! 🫡

[@Skeffles]

Brilliant video! Game dev is tough but getting to the end if always fantastic. I hope you don't have many more hurdles to overcome.

[@kimmysander2447]

loved the video - starting my own learning journey and its great to see realistic videos like these.

[@olson5000]

This validated my experience as a novice game dev a few months in

[@TinyDiceStudios]

This video was actually really encouraging for me, because it lets me know as a new game developer that I'm not doing something wrong.

[@saultoons]

We're ALL in this together (to the sound of High school musical)

[@tyroneconteh6815]

Great video! I'm fully dead set on Become An indie game developer After I graduate University. Seeing you talk about your journey has made me more motivated to learn. Continue the Hard work.

[@joshuapark5014]

Very relatable! More than once I have wanted to give up on games.

[@CatDribble]

That wall analogy just sounds like programming in general

[@BlackLoboGaming]

This is exactly like me 😅I was having and major bug and just solving it by checking a box and it fixed everything that was wrong. You got to love game dev!

[@AlexTemina]

What a good video!!! I really wish you the best of lucks and I send you hugs and encouragement!

[@saultoons]

Thanks a lot Alex!

[@paypercutts]

This is poetry that I'm sire 99.9% of gamedevs out there can relate to! I'm glad you're persevering though the ups n downs mate!

[@StudioSix9]

Amazing video man, i have been playing games from 10 years, then though i would love to make games and last year i had installed unreal engine but too afraid to build anything. Now im having job and compltely left that dream......seeing this video, i think im going to try, so thx :)

[@WarrenMarshallBiz]

The journey often IS the reward. Good message!

[@saultoons]

Yes definitely it is!

[@ThePresidentOfNorthDakota]

I've seen a good amount of videos on this topic, and for some reason, whilst all the other ones pushed me away from trying game dev, this one just makes me excited to give it a shot!

[@obbevermeij7285]

Thanks for demonstrating that Game Dev is in fact hard. It takes a particular type of person to persevere.

[@RewdanSprites]

Menu's and save systems. Such a pain in the ass. I will give a small amount of advice as I got past that stage quite a while ago: Be careful not to make them too complicated because if there's any bugs you'll have to dig through a complicated system and that's never fun whilst probably forgetting how it works. Great video by the way and good luck! I was recently considering giving up on my project after finally hitting the marketing stage after three years development. Marketing is just not something I particularly want to do. At least you're getting that done bit by bit as you go along.

[@saultoons]

Yes, 100% everyone is in the same boat! Thanks for sharing your experience, you're definitely not alone!

[@josuehernandez5336]

I honestly feel that watching this video has helped me so much!! :')

[@NeroTheAngel]

You doing great! Can't wait to play it!

[@saultoons]

Thanks so much, it's getting there!

[@ShinSpiegel]

amazing video man, thanks for the this, very help us (hobby game devs) to keep pushing the climb

[@saultoons]

Happy to help! Thanks for watching Shin!!!!

[@Linken062478]

Thanks buddy. You're really inspirational.

[@Gaskinmoo79]

I have started making a game in Gdevelop. I have had 8 of these walls so far but each time I conquer one it feels great.

[@ibendover4817]

This is the reality of ANY type of dev. Especially if you're going from idea to production. Although it's not a silver bullet, luckily Ai is there to help with some of the roadblocks and climbing now.

[@genjibaka]

intro is such perfection 👍

[@saultoons]

Thanks for the love

[@Daboudibou_]

The walls are even worse when the tasks are not related to your expertise. As a programmer myself, I always dread these art tasks because like you said, you have no fucking idea where to start. But hey, someone’s gotta do it so might as well start the climb !

[@saultoons]

Yup, they're the worst ones for sure! But the good thing is even if you get 10% of the way up that wall, that 10% is not as difficult. Time and patience will get you through anything in the end!

[@brodriguez11000]

Reason a lot of endeavors. e.g. movies, music. etc are team efforts.