The Rings of Power (Season 2) Pitch Meeting

[@Pers0n97]

"So how did he survived the fatal stab?" "By being fine the next time we see him." Classic.

[@Crispy_Bee]

He's just wearing really, really, reeee-he-heeeally thick plot armour.

[@MrKeinoz]

Yeah it's in scenarium

[@DrReverendJ]

Ah, I see, he utilized the Kung-fu Hustle technique.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

" Why not just show him avoiding the fatal blow?" "Because".

[@jcdesantis69]

This really needs to stop. You cannot have dramatic moments and then just take it back.. it sounds like my 6 year old niece telling me a story

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

I always tell nurses in hospitals to ignore their patients. The best way to survive a severe injury is being off screen.

[@Smokie_666]

I agree. I knew a person that had severe chest pains and went to the ER. I never checked up on him but the nurses did confirm after a couple days his bed was empty so I know he's out there having a great life and completely alive.

[@DoodsUnited]

However you can also mysteriously die offscreen if the writers want you out of the show so it's still a bit of a tossup

[@Alpha_Online]

​@@EventualWarlordyeah, and you're still here, aren't you?

[@cobra8888]

He probably just walked it off. That is how Men do it according to Bill Burr. If it is serious, just walk it off it will heal itself.

[@Justin_Rose]

Dang, son. Someone needs to start teaching this to m d students STAT

[@teddyhaines6613]

Probably the longest stretch of awkward silence from Screenwriter Guy since the time they had to get in touch with their British division while they were mid-pitch.

[@Xandycane]

Well... well...

[@JohnWittle]

idk man, the one after 'the power of one, the power of two, the power of maaaaanyyyy' might have been shorter but its awkwardness-density is off the charts

[@IllisiaAdams]

Which film/TV was that for? I do not recall that one.

[@JohnWittle]

@@IllisiaAdams iirc it was casino royale, when they were trying to decide who to cast as the new bond "what if I were to suggest daniel craig... again? just like, literally suggest him for a second time?"

[@TF2Fan101]

Don’t forget the one from Twilight: Breaking Dawn.

[@jeffreyjameson6174]

"Slap our colons on people's favorite franchises" sums up everything.

[@yuyutubee8435]

What are you talking about? Mass Effect is going to be _great._ 😏

[@jbourbon3734]

Legit made me giggle.

[@jellis]

Slapping colons on things is tight.

[@victorparent]

Thanks, I hadn't quite understand that sentence yet

[@davcrav]

The plot hole of Sauron attacking a city while rings were being made which stops the rings being made so he has to make the rings to continue being made was so big that it could not be bridged by a "hey shut up".

[@masonnnnnn1]

I don't really see it as a plot hole Sauron clearly did it to gain an army of orcs

[@Rx37Legacy]

@@masonnnnnn1 But what would he need simple orcs for if he had the rings....?

[@Francesco-fo9oo]

@@Rx37Legacy Also, how attacking an elf city gives him an army of orcs? He could have lost it in battle. ALSOx2, does Sauron really need an excuse to get an army? He is the freaking Lord of the Rings, Orcs should "organically" gather just at his will!

[@patricknoll81]

Sauron didn't have control of the Orc army when the siege began. Adar had betrayed him by this point. Sauron only gets control again at the end of this season, just as the siege breaks through. Still a funny joke, tho

[@Francesco-fo9oo]

@@patricknoll81 Thanks for trying to explain. Maybe in the series univers it make sense, but having read the books it just doesn't make aense at all to depower so much Sauron. He shouldn't even be able to lose control. In the Lord of the Rings he didn't even have a physical form and was able to gather all the orcs and corrupt many other beings... In the show he should be super powerful (even without the ring) but he seems like a regular human with some basic Jedi power...

[@oddursigurarson2522]

I don't like to kick people while their down. But I really disliked it when the writers of this show wanted people to think that the name Gandalf was a short version or a misheard version of Grand elf. Because J. R. R. Tolkien chose every name of the characters of his books very carefully, and many of them he took from Norse sagas and/or Norse mythology. Gandálfur (or Gandalf) was one the dwarf's name in the old and famous Icelandic poem Völuspá. Gandur literally means stick, staff or even a magic wand, and álfur means elf. So the meaning of Gandalf is staff elf (magic wand elf). And if you know that then you would know that Tolkien didn't grab this name out of thin air like the writers of this show want you to think.

[@Revalopod]

Those writers just wanted their Hodor scene.

[@Acromion11]

But Grand Elf...

[@KazudowithNoodle]

Thanks for sharing! That's super interesting. I will disseminate this knowledge!

[@Damianweibler]

While I agree that the writers of this show should go back to being the Dora the Explorer rejects they are, you can't exactly have Gandalf say his name came from ancient norse sagas. He DOES need an in universe name. Just not....not like this...

[@theposhdinosaur7276]

@@Damianweibler The thing is, you don't always need to explain a name, you could simply have a character say something like "what is your name anyways, we can't just keep calling you stranger"

[@paulianhodgson]

That "oh well" joke was great 😅

[@jigratty]

NO, it was deep!

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

@@jigratty It absolutely held water.

[@packman7631]

@@jamesmaybrick2001As long as he doesn’t go to it one time too many.

[@CameronBell-k3r]

​@@jigrattyno no. It was TIGHT.

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

Dam, what a good joke. I'm not feeling well, but that was funny.

[@nhogan84]

Best part was when the rings were finally done and Celebrimbor said to Sauron "You really are the Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Season Two now."

[@ReggieBell-q8j]

you could have said nothing but instead you decided to regurgitate a meme and that makes you so cool, the way you vomit in public, but with ideas instead of food

[@Brontosuchus]

@@ReggieBell-q8j Still pretty funny though.

[@BananaWasTaken]

What’s crazy is that this isn’t even that far off from what actually happens.

[@kennethnwebb]

how do u tag

[@BananaWasTaken]

@@kennethnwebb you just click the comment of the person you’re trying to tag (I’m guessing this is what you’re referring to)

[@Jonathan_Collins]

My favorite part of the season was when Galadriel told Sauron “if you liked it, you should have put a ring on it”, then started twerking. Truly a moment of the show.

[@electric1926]

I like the part when the thing you just mention happened

[@henryglennon3864]

I like the cut of your jib. How would you like to write prestige television for Amazon?

[@alexdamaceno]

This comment is better than both seasons combined. Though it’s not a good comparison, congratulations anyway

[@NLBusiness391]

Why did you delete the popular comment referring to Nerdrotic? It had 40+ likes. Do you have a problem with Nerdrotic? I took a screenshot of it, but now it’s gone. What gives?

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I'll be honest. I haven't actually watched the show but I believe that Amazon would greenlight that script.

[@Elijah-w5l4g]

Definitely didn’t expect a Leroy Jenkins reference and I love it

[@daniel.s.stefanov]

Ah, I miss the old Internet...

[@NoahSprague]

It's a perfect summary

[@Poisonedblade]

This guy didn't even get chicken.

[@gardamun]

A true Leroy would have gotten everyone in the mountain killed :)

[@jlhill17]

@@gardamun Well, that is exactly what will end up happening...

[@LivingFire_BurningFlame]

Tolkien's spinning so fast in his grave, he could legally be classified as a particle accelerator.

[@Miclpea]

🤣🤣🤣

[@_marcobaez]

DUUDDEEE NOOOOO 😂

[@producerPR]

The energy crisis has been solved. Task failed successfully. It was Bezos's plan all along...?

[@Soooooooooooonicable]

"You have no control - who lives, who dies, who tells your story"

[@mkultra2456]

@@Soooooooooooonicable "MAGA 2024!" - Jesus Christ

[@FlatSpinMan]

“Well, what if they had a bad day?!” The whole exchange that followed is one of my favourites in all of Pitch Meeting. It explains so much about a lot of TV shows and movies. No stakes.

[@randell9667]

If you want stakes, watch Buffy.... hehe. OK I'll see myself out.

[@blackdragon6]

That can be tricky, considering how schizophrenic audiences are. Add stakes, sure. But be prepared to have to show the consequences of the stakes being too high, which in tern can cause audiences to turn against the show ironically. Audiences are weird like that.

[@JacobL228]

There's also the opposite extreme where is basically mutual destruction labeled as a victory. No one wants that either.

[@critica77y77]

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. In a lot of stories, we can figure out what the ending is going to be early on, but if we like the characters, we want to see how they get to that point. The problem with The Rings of Power is that nobody likes the characters.

[@telarr9164]

" i don't care" is the most accurate description of the writing process for this show

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

And "because MONEY".

[@crookedgamer7183]

black elves :/

[@assassindelasaucisse.4039]

@@crookedgamer7183 White racist gamers :/

[@MyBrainGlows]

@@crookedgamer7183 stop complaining about black elves, it gets annoying.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

​@@MyBrainGlows It blows my mind that people care about this stuff.

[@TapCat]

I'm convinced that more thought is put into the structure of this story by Ryan than all of the writers of Rings of Power combined.

[@ricardosousa7150]

For sure!

[@thomasd4738]

just said the same thing - this (the Pitch Meeting) is really impressive writing

[@jamied1579]

Story?

[@buffalobilly6046]

If everybody would JUST BOYCOTT THIS HORRIBLE SERIES ON PRIME, then Amazon will actually do something about it. Either CANCEL this piece of tihs or fire the entire writing/directing staff and start over

[@debraeuler1674]

@@buffalobilly6046 --I watched a bunch of the first season, in increasing disbelief at how bad it was, considering how much money it cost, and have now vowed not to watch any more. And with Pitch Meeting, now I know I don't have or even want to.

[@scottshapiro2795]

I love how in season 1, producer guy told screen writer guy to stop producing things weird with the r sounds (galadriel, valinor, numenor, sauron, etc.) but now producer guy is doing it

[@Tonyhouse1168]

You mean like Sour Ron?

[@johnsebok3555]

Saddly this means Producer Guy now has the largest character arc out of everyone in Rings of Power :/

[@jake12466]

​@@johnsebok3555 "Saddly"? With two Ds?

[@matthewbarratt4935]

@@jake12466 It's to show that you pronounce it with a weird D sound.

[@jimh472]

There is FAR more continuity in the Ryanverse than in any of the RoP garbage.

[@szabok1999]

My GOD did I make the right decision by not giving this a second chance. That Gandalf name thing alone would have made me punch through my screen...

[@85Portar]

It's very "internet", the way it's portrayed. He says something along the lines of: "They will call me Gandalf, won't they", so it's not that he chose the name, it's what he will be called because the halflings just thinks he is a grand elf. I think it's a rather cute backstory of how the halflings gave him his name and it stuck with him.

[@razvanefros411]

nah, the show wears you down until that moment, so you dont actually care anymore by that point

[@ashleytaylor7621]

oh so you havent even seen tom bombadil yet???

[@sidharthkumar5636]

*drunk Strider stumbles off table* Scottish Butterbur: Are ya gone ? Drunk Strider: Are ya gone?.... Aryagon?.... Aragon! Backstory accomplished.

[@thomaskalinowski8851]

"What'll ye have, stranger?" "A pint of cider." "So, ye want te try th' cider, do ya? Guess I'll call ye, uh, c'trider."

[@somedude1313]

they should hire you!

[@MrVivaloslegos]

Underrated comment

[@adamheywood113]

this was hilarious/painful to read lmao

[@emils2000]

Elf meets a hobbit... - ohh, you look just like my di1d0! - hmm.... ohh, I will call myself Bilbo!!!

[@TheFloorface]

5:59 "number two" hit the nail on the head right there.

[@kingzucode]

I caught that too!

[@10base-teaparty97]

"reveal how he got his name and accessories" may be the harshest indictment of . . . like 90% of movies and TV shows Ryan has done so far.

[@nickrhook4809]

The dumbest thing about the prequel craze, probably

[@zarinaromanets7290]

They genuinely could have done a show about Raid Shadow Legends if all they think a character is is a skin and weapon. they didn't need to spend 5 billion butchering this lol

[@one.eyed.monsta]

Just remember, they also did that in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which came out in 1989 and is widely regarded as a classic.

[@theradicalginger3060]

​@@one.eyed.monstathis is true and I see your point however having a small scene showcasing a younger indiana staring down a lion and showing bravery by trying to crack a whip and getting hit in the face and getting a hat is vastly different from a whole tv series about trying to articulate a story about stuff that sure went down and happened not the way the show is showing but whatever is in the books that they are actively ignoring and butchering it every milistep of the way

[@andrewb9590]

I can’t wait for Han Alone 2: Lost in Mos Eisley.

[@patrickmcgever2736]

"Maybe, I uh, I don't know!" Fantastic delivery. Got me laughing out loud. I can really feel the disdain in this pitch meeting and I greatly appreciate it.

[@somerandolad]

This saved me from having to watch the show itself. Thanks again, Ryan and George!

[@diando19]

Wow wow wow... Wow.

[@Frosty_tha_Snowman]

I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy.

[@Jayluvlee87]

Nice when things are super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@kated3165]

I tried to watch season 1 and was not physically capable of it...

[@MrSeedi76]

There's far worse things to watch. Like wheel of time.

[@mohammedmahfuri1078]

Watching pitch meetings instead of mediocre tv is TIGHT

[@g.w.7893]

Mediocre? That's a stretch.

[@colbunkmust]

"mediocre" is an incredibly overly-generous description of RoP.

[@lordpepper6932]

Mediocre is pretty generous when talking about shit

[@Atheismo9760]

High praise for the show.

[@TheLandscaper0115]

😂😂😂😂

[@masterxl97]

2:13 The way you said Tom Bombadil here gave me enough serotonin to make it through the day, thank you.

[@bencressman6110]

tm bmbdl :')

[@ajshwhrkwgsl9540]

Throughout the show it was incredible how flexible the non-important-characters were. Like when everyone wanted the Númenor lady dead and she was pushed into the sea, she then gets out and everyone instantly cheers for her to be a queen, until some random paper is brought that just mentions Sauron and now everyone immediately wants her dead again with absolutely NO explanation lol

[@flyingcjg]

“Oh. Well.” at 5:16. Perfect delivery!

[@YilitiziYu]

The Wand chooses the Wizard, Harry. You mean Gandalf? Yes!!!

[@chadrowin2956]

Too be fair, the wand did not choose the Wizard, so it's nothing like Harry Potter. It was a Staff. Not sure if it choose him or he stumbled upon it, maybe the staff was lost and just wanted a lift and Gandalf has been holding it hostage all this time ....

[@Texelion]

"Y'er a wizard, Gandalf" - Hagrid, probably

[@bluemountain4181]

@@chadrowin2956 "I found it, it's mine! My own! My precioussssss staff...." - Grand Elf, maybe

[@chadrowin2956]

@bluemountain4181 OMG you cracked it! Grand Elf GandElf GANDALF!!

[@jaguh9069]

Reminds me of the skits that studio C made about similarity between lotr & harry potter 🤣 Anyone interested can look up "lord of the potter"

[@Dreadjaws]

Being serious for a moment, this trend every damn prequel has of "revealing" how a character got their name is so irritating. Why can't people just get their name at birth like a normal person anymore? Not everything needs an origin story.

[@criley7755]

... Now here's how Indiana Jones got his hat...

[@MuttFitness]

​@@criley7755 Kmart!

[@axxjazz.]

but Gandalf wasn't born

[@dagonming1319]

I HAVE AN NAME ORIGIN STORY FOR YOU.... OVER 20 YEARS AGO DURING A VERY COLD WINTER NIGHT IN NOVEMBER MY FATHER AND MOTHER FELT VERY COLD AND DECIDED TO HEAT EACH OTHER BY RUBBING THEIR BODIES TOGETHER.. 9 MONTHS LATER THEY WHERE WATCHING A DRAGON MOVIE AND THOUGHT LETS NAME OUR NEW SON THAT.. BUT BEING ASIANS THEY CAN'T SAY THEIR "R" VERY WELL SO IT WAS SHORTEN TO DAGON... TRUE STORY

[@Datboy1991]

I was in the camp of people who liked Season 2, but the way they handled the "mystery" of Gandalf's identity made me want to scream. Worst. Mystery. Ever.

[@benmohatun]

After watching hours upon hours of critic of this show, Ryan's lighthearted Pitch Meeting feels like a fresh and welcome breeze.

[@AsceticAesthetic]

Still haven’t seen a single episode. Will end up watching this a hundred times though.

[@JesusBarrancoEscribe]

Oh, yes.

[@scratchy996]

You lucky SOB ! I watched it and it downgraded my life.

[@zarinaromanets7290]

Little Platoon has a great breakdown so you don't have to suffer, it's pretty fun to watch him get angry actually. 😅

[@whitemagus2000]

I watched the first three. It was pretty bad. No comprehension of what makes Tolkien stories good.

[@Jedi_Vigilante]

I couldn't even make it beyond the first 10 minutes of the first new Hobbit movie, there was no way I was gonna torture myself with this. Some stories aren't meant to be translated to other media. I've got the books on my shelf, I can just read them again if I want to sink back into that world.

[@packman7631]

“The cultural impact that the first season had is incalculable.” “Oh really?” “Well you can’t divide by zero, so……”

[@MGsubbie]

LMAO

[@LuisSierra42]

He's right tbf

[@Timsturbs]

deviding by zero is infinity. so what..

[@packman7631]

@@Timsturbs No, dividing by 0 is undefined. It’s not a valid mathematical operation.

[@anthonyd5388]

haha that's great

[@mistergoodbear]

1:51 "Eewwiioewww" reaction to unnecessary romance is my favorite recent addition to these.

[@thatonedude]

This felt so very aggressive compared to normal videos from you but I loved every second!

[@mctrials23]

I know right. Felt personal. Usually they are just funny and you don't feel like he actually cares but I get the impression that the shit Amazon are churning out here is actually annoying him.

[@lostree1981]

This is what passes as aggressive to you? Do you have a nice view from the safe shelter of your ivory tower? OH HEAVENS FORFEND! SO AGGRESSIVE!! Oh my! 🤫

[@thatonedude]

​​@@lostree1981 "compared to normal videos" I implore you to re read it, take your time, it's okay, we'll wait. I never said I found it aggressive personally and it offended me. Edit: are you doing okay big bro? Just curious.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Gandalf: “YOU SHALL…” Bezos: “Here’s a billion dollars.” Gandalf: “…pass.”

[@stevecollins4567]

Snort.

[@bootsthecat6718]

Fans: "Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!" Amazon: "No..."

[@patpowers9210]

And so the Rings of Power claimed Amazon as their latest bearer/victim.

[@SimonBuchanNz]

"After all, why shouldn't I have the license?"

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

"there's 5 seasons in the contract :'("

[@thronesclips6397]

I just spit out my drink. Thank you and damn you.

[@LucianDevine]

@@Yarblocosifilitico Which is just insane when it's a failure of a show by every metric and lost them hundreds of millions of dollars. How do you continue to commit to spending a billion per season when you can't even make half of that back and you know it?

[@evdomos]

I can't believe it took less than 7 minutes to pitch an entire season to Amazon. Or, actually, that explains a lot.

[@1introvert_guy]

The way Ryan says the names of the characters/ places as a throwback to the first season’s pitch meeting is gold.

[@BatmanFan76]

It’s so hard to believe Ryan actually watched Season 2 for this pitch meeting.

[@frontiergibberish]

The man sacrifices so much for his audience.

[@ComedyBros5]

@@frontiergibberish Truly a patriot.

[@kingtomador5655]

It is actually barely easy super inconvenience

[@machos]

He pitched the season, remember?!

[@thefirstofthelastones8952]

The fact he hasn't gone insane from watching this stuff is a miracle.

[@c.harper6042]

I'm more invested in the drama of Writer Guy and Producer Guy struggling to keep their eyes open than in anything that has happened in the actual Rings of Power show.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

In the context of the skit, the show is terrible and difficult to sit through, particularly if you need to watch scenes more than once to take notes, so even these two are having trouble following it (but too much money has been spent to stop making it). In reality, Ryan is likely experiencing the troubles of being a new parent and the child does not like having a regular sleep schedule that aligns with the parents (3 in the morning and you want to get your 5 hours of sleep to be functional, but then the baby starts crying).

[@LIGHT_MAYO]

Turns out cancelling Prime was super easy...

[@schmidtex8540]

barely an inconvenience

[@HatetuberDewey]

Yup, barely an inconvenience!

[@somerandolad]

Optimus Prime getting cancelled is TIGHT!

[@shred5396]

barely an inconvenience

[@Selyidar]

Tbh never subscribing was super-easy

[@Lowdo1549]

My favourite part from Lord of the Rings is when Gandalf exclaims to the Balrog “SUPER EASY, BARELY AN INCONVENIENCE”

[@scockery]

"How does Gandalf survive the battle with the Balrog?" "By totally dying." "So, he's no longer in the movies." "No, he comes back in white." "How did he do that?" "It was super easy, barely an inconvenience."

[@NamariCo]

Watching the pitch meeting so big corporations don't get the extra watch time for a ruined IP is SICK

[@An0nymous_L0gic]

oh you bastard

[@ernavill3261]

Problem is, if that would work actually well enough to hurt those companies, we wouldn't be able to watch these bids anymore. 😅

[@Der_Thrombozyt]

You mean TIGHT, don't you?

[@LucianDevine]

@@ernavill3261 Ryan would watch something else instead, and shows like this would be gone forever, making the world a better place.

[@Sunflowerdn]

Why would watch this of their own free will? Nah.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

You have no idea how long I've been anticipating this video. I'm honestly shocked you didn't bring up the Elrond-Galadriel kiss.

[@Keznen]

No words for how disgusting that is if you know anything about their *actual* relationship. His wife is her daughter (who canonically was already alive during the Second Age), which means she is his mother-in-law.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

​@@Keznen Yeah but clearly not in this version. This is re-written fiction so we can safely assume that relationship doesn't exist in this world.

[@Keznen]

@@LlywellynOBrien Yeah, Rings of Prime is nothing more than bad fanfiction (bad specifically because there's tons of fanfics that are infinitely better and more lore-respecting than this).

[@LlywellynOBrien]

@@Keznen Eh, I think it is pretty good all things considered.

[@LimitedCheetah]

I think I have some idea. If the universe is about 14 billion years old then I think we can guess quite closely.

[@RetroRanter]

The pronunciation of the names...perfection 😂 More respect there than both seasons of this show showed the lore.

[@dyonstadd7852]

The “isildur” had me rolling.

[@Martin64439]

I was going to mention that as well. Call backs are tight.

[@EN-MEYER]

i think it was more to poke fun at Guy-ladrials over-pronouncing of names during the first two seasons

[@allenzelt4481]

@@EN-MEYER the rolled "r"s in the show are so bad. I've come to think the actors are overdoing it on purpose as a little joke to us because of how bad the show is

[@lancereeder909]

The lore isn't really all that off considering they weren't given the rights to the parts of the story that were collected and given to us by Christopher Tolkien who's lifes work seems to get forgotten by people who are absurdly dedicated to accuracy and seem to think it was all his dad.

[@benmiles00]

5:00 Perfection. 👏👏👏😂😂😂

[@michaelanderson6394]

Not gonna lie, I had no idea a season 2 was A) Ever in the process of being made B) Already out right now.

[@benceszarvas5464]

C) watched by one person to the very end.

[@colbunkmust]

Quick, forget that it exists before it's too late!

[@Loyal_Lion]

Well the first season was so amazingly successful and beloved by the fanbase. How could they not have made season 2? /s

[@kylecrawford7641]

Let alone plans for five seasons...

[@8tonystark8]

kzbin.infowd-Dq1PtGEY?si=r2U5XCRdh2rjzLv0

[@peanusbenis5631]

"Why?" "I don't know! But that's in here..." Better dialogue than anything in RoP.

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

I used to think that storytelling was about compelling arcs and character growth. I had no idea that metrics were the goal the whole time!

[@NSGrendel]

Come work in the computer games industry. We'll show you the addiction chains, sorry, I meant ropes.

[@thedungeondelver]

Storytelling is about characters being thrown off of cliffs. Clearly this is the new normal.

[@Bizarro69]

It's metrics all the way down

[@syiridium703]

​@@Bizarro69down a cliff?

[@ellathebeagle547]

​@@thedungeondelverdude did they copy that from tekken? Lol 😂

[@TheAJKahn]

This video made me realize that I completely forgot about that fatal stab on Aerondil (or whatever his name is). That was such an oversight. Great video again btw. Love these pitch meetings... 😂

[@jay3517]

As someone who didn't watch the second season or any commentary vids, these plot points sound absolutely unfathomable. Did chatGPT write this?

[@SoulessStranger]

Be fair to the ChatGPT it is actually smarter now that these screen "writers"

[@thomasbecker9676]

Probably. Hollywood refuses to hire good writers.

[@togashira]

​@@thomasbecker9676what's sad is that the showrunners are self described mega nerds for Tolkien. At least that's what they keep telling everybody. I have yet to see proof.

[@legoseanland1760]

I watched it, they used the word “delve” a lot. Guess what the #1 most overused word by AI is…

[@MrScrofulous]

A monkey was given a typewriter

[@El-Ritmo]

Every Tolkien fan: "But none of this is how it is in the books, and not one bit of it makes a lick of sense." Rings of Power producers: "Heyshutup!"

[@EmperorTerran]

Me a tolkien fan: GIVE ME MORE. I love everything about sauron, galadriel, adar, celebrimbor. Give me more chant of the ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL poem in black speech in visions. Give me more sauron crying when he is called the lord of the rings and told that one of the rings will be his utter ruin. GIVE ME MORE of adar describing how it feels to be with sauron, how he promises you what you most desire and make his power seem like your power, only when he trully sees you with his gaze he bores a hole in you and he slithers in with his control,... God damn so much kino moments in the season... and all we get are haters trying to be funny with tired up jokes how tolkien is spinning in his grave...

[@davidcohen4518]

Actual Tolkien fans enjoy it, people who watched the Jackson trilogy when they were kids and now claim to be "Tolkien fans" are still butthurt about the black dwarfs and elves lmao, and we don't claim them.

[@gabbathehut3235]

@@EmperorTerran how can you call yourself a Tolkien fan and like something that changes almost every aspect of his writings? Tell me you only saw the movie trilogy without telling me you only saw the movie trilogy. Adar was made up by the producers of the show, he's not even a Tolkien character... this show is so far removed from tolkien's work it can't even be considered an adaptation. you're not convincing anyone with your comment, just showing you're not familiar with Tolkien's writings...

[@theemissary1313]

Plot twist: Every one who watches with two brain cells: "But that plot doesn't even make sense?" Rings of power producers: "Heyshutup!"

[@theyux1]

​@gabbathehut3235 because the amount of changes are overhyped. Yes they did take some liberties but so did peter jackson. Remember how aragorn was ashamed of isilidur not a thing. Remeber how the ring seduced isilidur also not a thing. I have problems with rings of power but it dies alot well. Saurons manipulation of the elves has been fantastic. Music in season 2 was great. Adar was inserted But makes logic sense that others would challenge sauron for control of melkors army. That said, numuninor has been pretty lackluster.

[@cork1576]

I watched the first episode of season 2 and then just kind of forgot about the show. Now that I've watched this Pitch Meeting I probably have no reason to go back. Thank you for saving me some time!

[@felipeaguena5289]

Imagine spending over a billion on the rights to a franchise...and having no real solid plans on what to do or how to use it. This might have been the WORST purchase of all time. It's like making a contract to have Gordon Ramsay as your personal chef for 10 years, but you were born without a mouth and only get your nutritiens through a feeding tube attached to your stomach

[@gentblue]

Worse than the Star Wars purchase?

[@PiecesMissing]

No, see that wouldn't make sense. They bought it in order to ruin it. That's their intention. Destroy all of our heroes.

[@blackdragon6]

From my understanding they weren't able to get the rights to everything. Which is why some stuff was cut.

[@user-cp9id1mj8b]

@@gentblue At least they made a profit off' that 4b investment. Amazon is losing insane amounts of money (COUGH MONEY LAUNDERING COUGH) because of this show. Which doesn't matter because companies like amazon have basically unlimited resources.

[@adamsvette]

Producer guy correctly pronouncing elf names is hilarious

[@fitosh]

I think this is one of if not the best pitch meetings you have done. Good job, i loved it

[@porcine83]

I still think "Cats" is #1, but this is top notch for sure.

[@thomasd4738]

best is a tough competition, but I think you may be right

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

I loved when it was revealed Gandalf sparkles in the sun. 👍

[@tlamiczka]

They are maybe preparing for Twilight crossover? Anything is possible now... 😅

[@thomasneal9291]

@@tlamiczka "Anything is possible now." I so wish that meant anything GOOD was possible, instead of EVERYTHING BAD. *sigh*

[@svetoslavkrastev228]

6:08 - that was THE SCARIEST thing to hear - and I've never even watched A SINGLE episode of this travesty. 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤢🤢🤮🤮

[@maurenovick]

That means we'll have 3 more Pitch Meetings after this!!!

[@vullord666]

The way companies are just throwing money away cannot be good for the economy. And plus I just hate it right now because I want that money 😭.

[@boohoow]

You honestly haven't missed anything. I saw the entirety of season 1, because I wanted to like it. Saw a couple of episodes of season two, but just couldn't get through more. It's so bland.

[@rosssidebottom9352]

You're so cool

[@svetoslavkrastev228]

@@boohoow If you are refering to me - I KNOW - I read Silmarilion - and it was EPIC. I know that the LOTR is the OG - but as child it was too heavy as a story, so I started apreciating it only later in my life - as a story and the way it was told, the world builing, the different languages, cultures, races, etc. Silmarilion - I read that waaaay later in my life and I fell in love with the story and the mythology. The moment I saw some reactions vids of the travesty called "The Rings of Power" - I was done before I even started. And the more I heard the more I was appalled and horrified. Not to mention that they literally spat on JRRT's grave. SMH.

[@KlausWulfenbach]

I like the idea that RoP is so terrible that even Writer Guy and Producer Guy are starting to have second thoughts about making more seasons, but they're stuck in contractual obligation and can't get out of it.

[@mggardiner4066]

I will say they finally brought back some of the proper characterization of Sauron and some of the plot this season with Númenor by the end….but then threw in a bunch of other stuff that didn’t make sense for the fresh season and the pacing was so bad in the first half

[@jesperburns]

@@mggardiner4066 I didn't think it was possible but they managed to make S02 worse than S01 already was.

[@anthonyhackett1101]

@@jesperburnsseason 2 seems actually be pretty well received.

[@troffle]

@@anthonyhackett1101 not by ratings or by Tolkien fans.

[@anthonyhackett1101]

@ Tolkien fans don’t count because they will sook about anybody taking creative license. It’s the same with star wars fans and trek fans and anything that has a massive fan base. For people who have actually watched both seasons the general consensus is season 2 is better than season 1.

[@michaelwoodby5261]

Imagine spending a BILLION dollars on an established franchise with tons of fans without bothering to hire writers. Disney, can you imagine?

[@Francesco-fo9oo]

@@rifz42 Captain Obvious! 👮

[@cmdraftbrn]

you mean like every company with more money than sense. they dont give a shit. you'll shallow their bilge water and love it!

[@davidwondercheck8883]

Those books are long. You cant expect writers to take the time to read those They're busy! Good god, what a disgrace.

[@kbo8029]

People say that yet Disney also took all the B and C franchises from Marvel and turned them into a cultural phenomenon. Studios do hits and misses but usually depend on how well they pick the creative teams and let them do their thing.

[@onikin]

Apple TV could have made a LOTR show that wins Emmys, but no one would have known about it.

[@steboTCB]

I love the reaction to the plot hole at 4:50 😂

[@FabledGentleman]

I don't think the majority of the budget went into the writing on this one 😂

[@LucianDevine]

@@FabledGentleman That's the biggest understatement of the millennium, lol!

[@Sunflowerdn]

​@@FabledGentlemanthe question is, where DID the money get innvested? It has to be a money laundering scheme...

[@Eternally_Sardonic]

That 'well' joke was so subtle. 😊

[@ZephyrysBaum]

The amount of inaccuracies from the books to the show, I understand it was a LOT of time to go through, but if instead of having a big storyline, they showed smaller stories from the universe, every episode or something, while being accurate, it could’ve been more enjoyable and fun.

[@IRanOutOfPhrases]

The inaccuracoes are vastly overplayed though, and on par with things PJ changed for his trilogy.

[@synthetic240]

They wanted a Game of Thrones, not an anthology show that respects its viewer's intelligence.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Jokes on you. Amazon has never read a book. They just sell them. They don't understand why people keep ordering them.

[@ZephyrysBaum]

@@IRanOutOfPhrases well, I’m not sure why, maybe it’s because I knew a lot less LOTR when watching Peter Jackson’s movies, but I noticed lots of the inaccuracies in ROP and it didn’t seem fun to me, like lots of the inaccuracies could be fixed, like the origin of Gandalf’s name.

[@ZephyrysBaum]

@@synthetic240 Yeah, I suppose this will make them more money. And, I’m definitely going to watch the remaining series even though I dislike them, as I’m a LOTR fan and it feels like I kinda have to 😭😭 Don’t judge me

[@anthognome]

As a guy with similar eyebrows, I am going to henceforth call them "drastic eyebrows."

[@alisaurus4224]

I call Ar-Pharazon “yassified Jack Black”

[@Tonyhouse1168]

Dramatic brows for the win!

[@PolarvoidexYT]

Oh, watching the Pitch Meeting for a show you’ll never watch is TIGHT! Please do a Shogun Pitch Meeting

[@GoldSayaProductions]

Oh wow wow wow. Wow. Wow wow

[@thatoneguychad420]

We need one for Snatch. (The movie) I've been asking for years 😅

[@justinschnoor9459]

I just watched Shogun a couple of weeks ago. It legitimately was great.

[@mkultra2456]

@@GoldSayaProductions *MAGA 2024*

[@Jake-cm9jj]

@@justinschnoor9459 Definitely way better than Rings of Power was...

[@Nahum1.7-Matthew6.33]

3:53 powerful short king 😅👑

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

“Powerful short king” lmaooo

[@PhazonOmega]

Lost my mind by 0:38. Sauron is the same being as Gandalf, not whatever this thing is. It's not that hard. Waaaaat did these writers doooo?!

[@adamuadamu5081]

Writers only watched marvel movies and tangentially heard of lotr

[@t.travelerjg1908]

00:12 Writer Guy was truly surprised of the possibility that season 1 had a positive cultural impact to TLOTR series. 😅

[@EskChan19]

Hey now noone said "positive"

[@thederpwad8282]

That’s the joke

[@tevanmartorana2320]

This is one of the best pitch meeting in a long time, really incredibly done! I feel like every other joke I was rewinding to listen to again

[@Goremize]

THEY MADE A SECOND SEASON OF THIS????

[@diatonicdelirium1743]

No man, it's all a bad dream.

[@Karl666Smith]

somehow its worse

[@yvohei]

Ofcourse they did, its been watched by over 150 million unique users so its worth the investment for Amazon Prime. Most people actually enjoy it so dont go online to complain.

[@LucianDevine]

And they've got 3 more planned!

[@Sunflowerdn]

Let them sit in their corner in their self indulgent, self pleasurement. At least someone is enjoying it. No on else will watch or remember it.

[@99PTR99]

2:34 really thought Ryan would make more of a big deal about the horse being the main character for a decent chunk of the episode.

[@alisaurus4224]

It’s a very forgettable horse

[@99PTR99]

@alisaurus4224 and yet it was one of the most compelling characters in the whole season

[@Klickor]

​@@99PTR99if being serious Berek is the best written named character in the entire show.

[@inuboy2005]

The enunciation of the names 😂🤣

[@alisaurus4224]

Celebrimborrrrr

[@biscuitboy5291]

“Whoops!” “Whoopsie!” Never gets old.

[@tomyellop7222]

The funny thing is for any other franchise out there this episode of Pitch Meeting would be the usual entertaining deadpan sarcasm and comic exaggeration Ryan uses for his satire. However, with Rings of Power it turns into a highly accurate, true to life dramatization of the shows production process :P

[@josephjoebrown11]

Imagine being a writer for a billion dollar show and the studio tells you that the show doesnt need to make sense OR be popular. Just do anything you want. Thats gotta be a fun job.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

My guess is that they ask for some event every episode. So the writers who initially would like to use the chance to create an epic work end up hurrying things. Even a mediocre writer wouldn't pass on scenes of foreshadowing the Balrog.

[@Upioornica]

The worst part is that it probably isn't like that, because any writer with that much freedom would create something better than this mess, hell, many viewers after three beers would come up with something more compelling. I think that the corporate machine with some statistics, selling points, pc policies and tight time schedule is more to blame. Businessmen are terrible artists.

[@kentonbaird1723]

you've described all of disney, marvel, and frankly the entire hollywood film industry currently...

[@supermax64]

Not just a billion dollar show, a show based on one of the most beloved work of fiction in human history. And they get to turn it into a bland mess

[@timl.b.2095]

Ryan is one of the cleverest people anywhere. And a good actor. That whole part of the writer going, "Well ... well ... well ..." works so, um, well.

[@ayoungtricknamedjim5498]

The "Oh well" pun was maybe the best pun I've ever heard from this channel.

[@Cationna]

0:24 I legit thought my screen went suddenly blank and tried to restart the app twice before I realised it's not my phone acting up. It's just the plague that wiped out all people in Hollywood who knew how to light a night/dark scene.

[@josephfisher426]

Justine Bateman is still there; she is on Twitter giving unsolicited technical commentary on political freakout videos.

[@Staenhus]

The reason is probably that it's neither night nor dark when they're actually filming, because CGI.

[@Cationna]

@Staenhus surely, that only makes it easier. You can control literally everything when you're doing CGI and don't have to compensate for the environment. But either way, that's just incompetence - if you can't make the final result look good (or, like. Look. At all. You can't see shit is what I'm saying) then it doesn't matter what mediums or techniques you're using, you're doing it wrong. (Btw, I think you're probably right that filmmaking has changed a lot and people who used to be brilliant at previous techniques got sacked but were replaced by people who were never required to become good at the new stuff. But this is hardly a good reason. When films stopped being black and white, they had to learn a new way to light, and they did. Why has it been decades of greenscreen and we're getting garbage worse than when it begun.)

[@Password_1234]

Don't know if this advice applies to you, but just in case: I had the same problem with a lot of show and series. Turns out that I was watching versions with HDR coloring. Now if the screen you're watching it on can actually handle HDR, this makes everything way better. But if you have a normal monitor, dark scenes become pretty much unwatchable. You want the non-HDR version if your device isn't HDR compatible.

[@pristajem]

2:59 he probably got stabbed with a lightsaber from new star wars disney shows

[@MrSpectralmania]

The longest pause in Pitch Meeting history is tight 💀

[@Geek-A-Geddon]

I think that title goes to Mandalorian, WandaVision or the Shang-Chi Pitch Meetings?

[@MrSpectralmania]

@@Geek-A-Geddon m! Maybe. Cocaine bear has a big one too

[@MrSpectralmania]

@@Geek-A-Geddon maybe. Definitely the most awkward though

[@Vamos82]

Was waiting for this ! Have not and will not see that show AGAIN, but you can't miss the PITCH MEETING 😂😂

[@Vman9484]

4:44 perfect absolutely perfect example of why Hollywood writers need more money

[@meeponinthbit3466]

I'd have worded that as, "... why Hollywood needs to spend more and get competent writers."

[@Wraithix88]

"Hey didn't Gandalf get that staff from the brown wizard in The Hobbit?" "Whoopsie!"

[@johnnysparkle]

He lost his staff from Sauron in the 2nd Hobbit movie and then got another staff in the 3rd one

[@jaegrant6441]

I haven't watched at all, but weren't there also two other wizards who were sent with Gandalf in the first place?

[@johnmihelis1699]

@@jaegrant6441 Four actually. Saruman, Radagast and two other blue wizards of which the only thing that is known is that they went East and...that's it.

[@ZttackFrmBhind]

@@johnnysparkle However, if you remember the staff that was destroyed, it looked like a flame on top. The one he got in RoP looks just like his rootbound one that he has in LotR (got from Radagast in the Hobbit) So according to RoP: Gandalf; started without a staff, Found a staff from a dead tree grown by a hobbit, Lost that staff somewhere, Got a new one that looked like a flame on top, Had that one destroyed by Sauron, Got a new one from Radagast, Lost that one fighting a balrog, and then got a new one (without a quest) when he became Gandalf the White. Gandalf goes through staffs almost as much as Anakin goes through lightsabers.

[@Sylmarys24]

5:46, Ryan just roasted every prequel ever on a spitfire made of logic 🤣

[@Zakkleberg]

That's a huge problem with prequels that have characters from the original. If they'd set it further in the past, with characters that weren't in the original, there'd be more actual tension and drama, but, here we are

[@JeghedderThomas]

How is this show even possible? Are there no quality control at all? Oh well... this is a banger of a pitch meeting, the best so far. Well bloody done, Ryan.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Watching the pitch meeting instead of the actual show and saving myself eight hours is super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@Sunflowerdn]

Watching this sounds like a chore only a reviewer could endure. . . This is drivel only it's self Indulgent creators with delusions of grandeur could love.

[@earthlingcarl3179]

Destroying Tolkien's legacy is super easy, barely an inconvenience!

[@LlywellynOBrien]

Oh come on, this is such an exaggeration. They aren't destroying his legacy.

[@shorewall]

It's more like it shows how great his work really was, like contrasting a roaring fire against the cold darkness.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

6:24why tho

[@hotversus]

Because we're in this now.

[@jameskingsbery3644]

Because.

[@davidbuck1614]

Tax write off...

[@Valen-mh9fh]

Hubris

[@phen0mejon99]

​@@jameskingsbery3644that works

[@Thunder_warrior]

3:13 I just love this "maybe" and a laugh "I don't know"😂

[@SpecialAgentBillMaxwell]

"Yer a Gandalf, Grand elf."

[@caleb1657]

From the very little I have seen, I can't take this show seriously. Thank you for allowing me to experience it in a format I can actually enjoy. Hating a show but loving the Pitch Meeting is TIGHT!

[@legosnek]

3:23 Clearly the giant bird chose him to be the leader because he had the most commanding eyebrows in all of middle-earth

[@ZttackFrmBhind]

This may be the one time Ryan got it wrong, the bird clearly chose him because of his commanding mustache

[@legosnek]

​@@ZttackFrmBhind that too

[@ShohnaC]

"a giant chipmunk or something" 😂😂

[@justinn8541akaDrPokemon]

The biggest surprise is that this got a season 2.

[@jaredhamline]

They spent a billion for it and then gave it an automatic 2 season greenlight. 😬

[@anabee8310]

​@@jaredhamlineat HBO it would still be a tax write off :D

[@thatoneguychad420]

​@anabee8310 HBO used to make the best television. S8 of GoT soured me a bit so I don't know what there current stuff is like. But The Sopranos, The Wire, Boardwalk empire and deadwood are all superb. Do they still make the best tv?

[@randomperson8021]

Money laundering

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

The contract they have with the Tolkien estate stipulates that they HAVE to make at least 5 seasons.

[@danwhite77]

The extra "wows" were so subtle but also a genius way to make fun of Amazon extending their run time. It's the attention to detail that we all appreciate!

[@windows7RULES]

1:19 3 wows at the end! That's unprecedented!

[@bootsthecat6718]

Rings of Wower

[@entwinedspace7248]

"He Leroy Jenkins it." Best line

[@SegaChamber]

“Oh, well” perfectly sums up this season

[@leadharb]

"Well..... Well.... Well..." my reaction to the whole series

[@harrymills2770]

Good of you to point out the hazards into which people might otherwise fall.

[@sheolcodemonkey4027]

The fact that this is what's getting churned out by professional writers for a show with a billion dollar budget set in one of the most thoroughly developed, culturally significant, and critically acclaimed IPs of all time really makes me reconsider my support for the writer's strike

[@Sunflowerdn]

Money laundering...Has to be with how the sets and costumes look.

[@aliquida7132]

Don't blame the writers. They follow instructions from the people with the money.

[@Sunflowerdn]

@aliquida7132 I would still be embarrassed to put my name on this as a writer. Ashamed even.

[@aliquida7132]

@@Sunflowerdn Maybe they are embarrassed, or maybe they are proud of the show. Hard to say.

[@Sunflowerdn]

@aliquida7132 they could be narcissistically self deluded enough to be proud... But if they have drunk their own coolaid perhaps that's even more pathetic.

[@SaeedMSR]

5:58 I see what you did there! Brilliant!