The Rise and Fall (and Rise Again) of Taylor Swift

[@kathxclarke]

wow! this got a lot more views than I anticipated! thank you all for watching :') I just wanted to clear up one thing i've seen commented a couple of times. My usage of the word "fall" in this video is talking specifically about her public image as it relates to the general public. I'm definitely not saying she "fell" out of touch with fans or saying that her music "fell" in quality or commercial success. I just used the albums at the bottom of the title cards to show, chronologically, where she was at in her career at the time of each phase in her public perception. Definitely not calling any of her albums flops, ESPECIALLY rep that's one of my all time fave albums lol

[@mazal5549]

okay,so u used the title to get more clicks,then.no need to clarify and hide it in comments

[@mjm8949]

It's hard putting your thoughts and opinions out there isn’t it? If you don't put a whole paragraph explaining what you meant to say with just a few words then people take offense and think you’re a horrible person. Then when you do explain that you meant no harm it somehow makes everything much worse and you get hated on more. It's tough out here. Anyways I just wanted say that your video was interesting and it didn't offend me.

[@kathxclarke]

@@mazal5549 is that not the purpose of a title? I don't understand people saying Taylor never had a "fall"....she disappeared for 2 years because people were sending her so much hate. The whole A side of reputation is about the FALL of her reputation....Yes, there was a notable drop (or fall...) in her public persona after the kanye incident. That's what this video is about....so how is the title clickbait??

[@mazal5549]

@@kathxclarke taylor personal life doesnt define her rise and fall. Her career does. Taylor career never took a hit even after hwr public image being ruined. She is not a reality star. She is a singer. So her rise and fall should be about her career not her public persona

[@praful1098]

Power of Taylor Swift,lol

[@cantbleednow3639]

one person said it best " Taylor swift is the music industry"

[@KingTraceShinyHunts]

Barbara Walters*** respect on her name

[@lolurmadinnit7425]

@@KingTraceShinyHunts who?

[@iexist8276]

@@lolurmadinnit7425 Barbara walter said" Taylor is the music industry "

[@ratpoop273]

Everyone said*

[@bettyscardigan]

@@ratpoop273 barbara said it first

[@1999SRoldan]

The clue to Taylor’s flawless skin is washing it with her haters’ tears

[@paulagutierrez6318]

I love this comment 😂

[@zarrah9215]

Lmao I love this so much🤣🙌

[@mishaespiritu4828]

XD

[@prachipranesh2097]

Yess😅🤪😂

[@hunniii2356]

This is the comment.

[@bradleycanning2146]

This video should be called the rise and rise and rise of Taylor Swift

[@mariamst2096]

facts

[@khoiphan2990]

i mean she kinda did fall. not her talent, but her image in the public eye.

[@kenzieaarons5609]

@@khoiphan2990 she only fell because two people lied about her. It wasn’t even her fault and she was telling the truth the whole time.

[@khoiphan2990]

@@kenzieaarons5609 i know, but she still fell. not because of her own self, but because of the 2-people-who-shall-not-be-named and the media slutshaming her

[@aaliyahfoster2705]

@@khoiphan2990 And now those two nincompoops rose and then fell and then fell hard and disintegrated into a divorce. Karma is real.

[@fengbeto]

I wouldn't call it "Fall" because reputation is so fucking successful.

[@khoiphan2990]

most people (with the exception of swifties) view reputation as pEttY and they hate the album for no reason, so it IS successful in sales and tour, just that its image is not that great in the general audience’s eyes and the video even said rep is a huge success

[@islandrebelmakeup4653]

It was the (temporary) fall of her public persona, and she dove right into it.

[@garethwindser3155]

The fall was before reputation tho✌

[@fengbeto]

@@khoiphan2990 PLZZMDKYSJTI DIDN'T EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO 😭😭😭

[@darwinzamoraduran]

Exactly

[@dudamelatte7341]

My biggest flex is that I never disliked her

[@t.ris_]

😂👌

[@Specifically333]

for real, I need to add this to my resume !

[@vampyre_1]

same

[@judit7]

Same!!!!

[@allaboutmika]

sameeeee

[@Bellas61]

I'll listen to the criticism on Taylor when they start criticizing her on something they would also criticize a man for.

[@t.ris_]

Pop off!

[@doyoulikemyhat1404]

HELL YEAHHH

[@laltlanchhungiralte778]

This!!

[@ashleyhamby7146]

YES

[@talia3053]

PERIOD

[@pisces8564]

She didnt really fall though,she just came back stronger than the 90s trend

[@anugyasharma127]

I see what you did there..♥️♥️

[@tammyhay1437]

To us fans there never was a "fall".

[@pisces8564]

@@tammyhay1437 she did *NOT* fail whether you are a fan or not. People try to take her down but she never became a flop.

[@dylanpadayachee1660]

😂😂😂And that's on Willow...💯😏🔥

[@pisces8564]

@@dylanpadayachee1660 yes it is😂

[@TheRubyGamersTRG]

The way people call reputation a flop, but reputation sold a million copies in a week. Taylor’s “flop” is higher than most artists highest peak

[@magicalworld4891]

People never called it flop, it was the best selling album of the year

[@swiftie7370]

People actually thought the rep tour was gonna have like barely anyone but ended up being the highest grossing stadium tour

[@prachiagrawal5869]

Noone can call rep flop... The charts won't allow them😂 Even in the video she said it was a huge hit...

[@nilssjoberg1075]

Maybe because it's successor was 1989, and we know how 1989 is like it was huge huge.. Same thing happened to speak now which was predecessor of fearless

[@siapayah9345]

Tbh nobody called rep flop. Lover though-

[@ishita2027]

The fact that he used Taylor's naked wax figure is just upright disgusting and disturbing And it's honestly really spine chilling that she legit took that hate, she accepted that snake image and just turned it around like a whole 180° into her favor, and made something out of it and this is one of the reason why reputation era AND album is my number 1

[@bigbro2754]

I watched the "famous" noticed: it's a restricted video on KZbin and the last part of the vid is eerie. I feel like a creep watching it. Trash music smh

[@mars6827]

@Anish lmao good joke, I had a good laugh buddy

[@mars6827]

@Anish aahahahahahahaha you keep making my day. Keep it hon, I love it

[@citizentoxie3230]

@@mars6827 Mars is a fa....

[@peymanyaghoubi6560]

She even says at least you didn’t call me the B word , and then he did and whole world thought she was lying

[@theleftysjournal8781]

That whole world ppl are literally so stupid for thinking Taylor was lying. So obviously she wasn't.

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

@@theleftysjournal8781 SAME

[@SweetNothing937]

I wouldn’t say that any of her songs about her ex’s “mean spirited” those songs weren’t disrespectful. She writes on how those relationships made her feel and that’s something everyone does. In her case she just sings songs about it while a regular person tells another their feelings and versions.

[@stefanmakara373]

Yep. Especially Back to December where she literally says it's her fault. Trouble also puts the responsibility on her. Blank Space is just a parody obviously, but Getaway Car doesn't say anything bad about Tom Hiddleston, it is about her and how she is the one who messed it up because her heart was never in it anyways.

[@Angad_1604]

The good thing is that she write her songs with her whole heart and true expression she is not fake

[@RealGermanish]

I think a handful of songs are actually mean-spirited and those songs tend to be my favourite. Like Dear John, she absolutely destroys him and it's glorious.

[@stefanmakara373]

@@RealGermanish that's not a mean spirit, that's judgment day come

[@SweetNothing937]

@@RealGermanish Dear John is definitely a “call him out” him and it was well deserved but majority of her songs aren’t mean spirited because again she’s writing on how those relationships made her feel. Everyone writes and sings about their ex, but she’s been the one constantly attacked for it and is unfair.

[@readilykatie8312]

I’m always confused when people get after women like Anne Hathaway and T Swift for ‘being fake’. Like, men are also aware and adept to performing when we’re watching, but when do we think they’re fake?

[@stefanmakara373]

It is also weird to claim "fakeness" when the actual situation is... them being very polite in public?? And then having flaws in private?? Like, that is how normal people act. No one HAS to publicly present their flaws to the world in order to be called honest. "You're fake!" NO, they just know how to fucking behave.

[@readilykatie8312]

@@stefanmakara373 Absolutely. I guess if I had to guess why, it boils down to how women are not supposed to try too hard, just *happen* to be pretty (without being vain and spending lots of time getting ready) and smart (without scaring off the boys).

[@aramis5301]

@@stefanmakara373 I think you really summed up the whole problem there... This quest for "authenticity" makes no sense at all, because EVERY person has a private self and public self, so why expect celebrities to be any different? Also, the corollary to this is, IMO, a very problematic sense of entitlement from the audience/media/fans. I mean... A singer or an actor does not owe you an access to their "true self" or their private self. All they owe you is to be willing to give their time and energy to their fans while they are working, but that's it, really.

[@Mondo.]

BTW, it's MOSTLY WOMEN who make these accusations so stop the gender baiting, yeah?

[@stefanmakara373]

@@Mondo. literally no one gender baited here go be triggered somewhere else.

[@crystalc8992]

If you watched the whole video, Kanye didnt call for permission, he called to ask her help promote the song by tweeting it when it was released lol. Taylor asked to hear the song and thats only when Kanye told her abt the lyrics. He eventually didn’t send her the full song, thus Taylor never approved the song. If you read her Rolling Stone interview in 2019, you’d know that she’s uncomfortable with their “friendship” since before the VMAs regarding some things he did (i can’t remember exact what, go read the interview) but she brushed it off cause she didnt want to be the difficult one. But when he did it again, she was like “okay so you actually don’t wanna be friends, fine but lets be honest with it”

[@stefanmakara373]

I think one of the things he did was he asked her to be the one to announce him when he was performing somewhere (some award show?) and he told her to do it as friends, blah blah blah, and she announces him, goes into the audience and watches as he struts on the stage boasting how "they GOT Taylor Swift to announce him" as if she was paid or made to do it. And she stood there "with her arm around his wife" and felt awful.

[@ERoylance91]

@@stefanmakara373 yup it was the 2015 VMAs.

[@signalfire15]

Why would he need her approval though? It was a courtesy for him to even tell her the lyrics of his song...

[@stefanmakara373]

@@signalfire15 It wasn't courtesy, it was manipulation. He knew bad mouthing Taylor was going to get him huge publicity. But also that people would be upset with him. So he called to manipulate her into giving him her "blessing" so that he could do, well, exactly what he did. He lied to her about the lyrics and when she voiced she didn't appreciate being called a bitch, his wife showed "proof" that Taylor lied. Which she didn't but he presented it as such. No one here is arguing that he is legally in the wrong. We're calling him a dick. Because he is one.

[@signalfire15]

​@@stefanmakara373 Didn't he call her to ask for her help in promoting the song? It was a courtesy that he told her the lyrics at all. As an artist, he's not obligated to share his music with her, even if her name is in his song. Do you think Eminem gets approval when he name drops people in his songs? Also, does Taylor get approval when she writes songs about her exes? Artists write about their experiences in life. She also wrote a song about Kanye first and performed the song and showed a clip of him and the incident that happened between the two of them in the performance. Was that approved by Kanye? Y'all really suffer from memory loss when it comes to the things that Taylor has done...

[@grizzlier3990]

I really enjoyed Taylor’s music and I hope she still continue to grow as an artist

[@user-yu3jz7qy7u]

Crazy that now we have evermore and Fearless (Taylor's Version)🤯

[@dylanpadayachee1660]

She's just getting started... "I come back stronger than a 90s trend"🔥😏

[@user-yu3jz7qy7u]

@@dylanpadayachee1660 yesss🔥🔥

[@bowenwangs]

"Taylor Swift is pop culture's phoenix" is such a beautiful analogy. This video was so amazingly written, I'm subscribing immediately!!

[@karanpannu9287]

“Honey I rose up from the dead, I do it all the time”

[@prachiagrawal5869]

PERIOD.

[@Muskan-rs7ws]

She didn't really fall tho. Reputation was so fucking successful it still blows my mind. She always manages to make her newest era better than the previous one. Taylor truly ALWAYS comes back STRONGER than a 90s trend

[@Muskan-rs7ws]

@@Luna-fx1sj They'll do anything but accept that Taylor is always going to win

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@Luna-fx1sj It's because she is white, and if people support her they are afraid to be called racist.

[@aidentan6547]

If you listen to Kanye phone call you will know how uncomfortable she is -- Kanye west literally giving out million of reasons to why she need to be ok with the song even though she's clearly not ok with him rapping that he make her famous because he jumped on the staged and humiliate her in the first place.

[@anisanurraudah8383]

One thing that I learned from Taylor is that as long as you know you are talented enough, you will always clap back and comeback stronger with your art.

[@blackwhite1123581321]

Miscommunication? and then proceeds to edit the video because there’s miscommunication. 🤪🙄 Kim and Kanye are just shady af. They deserve each other

[@stefanmakara373]

Amen. There was no miscommunication when she said "I'm glad you didn't want to call me a bitch i was so worried" and then he fucking put that in the song.

[@kp782]

Kim and kanye are sick people thats for sure

[@idontevenhaveapla7224]

@@stefanmakara373 Yup, I'm disappointed even in this video! Soo fucking done with the misogyny of it all.

[@lasagna312]

@@stefanmakara373 Yeah, and in the phone call she clearly expressed some amount of discomfort at the "I made her famous" line, even without the "that bitch" part put in there. She also said she wanted to think about it before approving it.

[@theleftysjournal8781]

I think these 2 K's planned all along how to bring her down. In this way.

[@anahileavalencia4552]

I believe Kanye only called her out of formality and to cover his ass. He never really cared for her opinion or thoughts rather he knew his song would stir up something and he wanted to be ready.

[@itscalebbarrera]

Yeah cause why would he record the phone call , him and his raggedy ass wife knew Eagan was gonna happen

[@prachiagrawal5869]

Actually Kanye called her to ask for promoting his song and tweeting about it when it was out... It's only when Taylor asked for lyrics did he tell about it but that also in twisted way...and then later even had the gut to play the victim and frame her up!!

[@nataliatkm96]

TAYLOR NEVER LIEDDDDD 👸🏼 QUEEN COULD NEVER FLOP

[@alsoalis]

🙏🙏

[@leannryleabastillas317]

i feel like TS10 should definitely be a rock genre album, or something along the lines of a rock genre. i’m not saying that only cause i’d really love to hear her delve deeper into that area after dabbling with the rock version of We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, but also because it would be a good contrast after the cottagecore and calmness of folklore and evermore. another point would be is that it would be a brilliant post-pandemic sound that lets out the frustration of the last two years. like you said, Taylor always manages to create a relatable record that suits the time it’s released in. so after that folklore-evermore era would come out a punk rock or soft grunge sound that would definitely be filled with upbeat tones to get a party going post-pandemic. plus, some ideas from that potential era could be in drafts already around the near end of her 1989 tour... here’s to hoping 🤞

[@takemetothelakes_]

Yess I love this and I hope she does a rock album next

[@angelamarie4137]

This may sound weird, but I would love for her to do a song with a band like Weezer.

[@tammyhay1437]

Thats exactly what I've been thinking since the last 3 albums came out.Now I would love to see her rock out.Pounding drums,loud guitars, and her in black leather!

[@sims2lovealot]

Yes this is exactly what I've been waiting for since she dabbled a bit in Speak Now.

[@Nick-xb5nz]

watch her go r&b. 😃

[@auandaily]

some of her work might underperform according to her own standards but you're never going to see taylor herself flops.

[@tatiannamaldonado3530]

Extremely well said 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi]

By her standard Reputation wasn't that successful but I like it so much. It's one of her best cohesive album. ❤️

[@Senate300]

@@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi Reputation was a big with the fans than it was with critiques and the award circuit. You could say it's a cult classic. And because of look what you made do it's considered her most angriest.

[@paperpenn9923]

The whole Taylor Kanye fiasco is so upsetting. You can hear the sadness and discomfort in her words. Then she gets a worldwide #1 hashtag that she is "over" and a "snake". I don't blame her for disappearing. She could've handled it so much worse and I still wouldn't have blamed her. She seems like such a kind soul and also puts so much effort into her work. If anyone deserves that level of fame, its Taylor.

[@aaliyahfoster2705]

"I pulled 7 million off of that album before you did"✌

[@kitj3301]

kanye has never acted as anything besides a jackass it has nothing to do with the color of his skin i can’t even believe anyone took that stance

[@Goat.Cheese]

People always play the race card, even when it's not applicable which is very disrespectful

[@architasingh599]

hate how kanye plays the race card when he said and i quote, slavery is a choice

[@poopieyoutube5460]

"Oh my god, is that a black card? I turned around and replied, Why yes But I prefer the term African American Express" - Kanye West

[@gilliandoplemore9357]

this is wrong. don’t blanket kanye man.

[@idontevenhaveapla7224]

@@gilliandoplemore9357 No disrespect to him. He could be a genius. But in the wise words of Barrack Obama, he is a "Jackass".

[@FionaPond]

I feel like if you listen to the whole Kanye phone call, you can clearly tell Taylor is unhappy from her tone and not sure how to vocalize it. That's not ideal communication, but with the context of Miss Americana, it's pretty clear she was just always someone who avoided conflict and wanted to please everyone. It to me is a really sad demonstration of how far women will go to not upset men. And the fact that Kanye either did not pick up on her tone or chose to ignore it and take advantage of it… Well that speaks loudly on him too.

[@anandamorales5803]

exactly! 100%

[@larari1]

EXACTLY.

[@stefanmakara373]

Exactly and the way he asked her is so sleazy. He presented it so confidently as something cool and nice and normal but he's basically calling her saying "heyoo, I want to make a song claiming I am responsible for your career AND tell the world you owe me sex". Wtf? And then when she says she's glad it wasn't mean like calling her a bitch, HE FUCKING PUTS THAT IN THE SONG. Jfc.

[@michelletorres335]

Her in that phone call is me literally everyday. I dont say no to ppl, bc i dont want them to think i dont care abt them, im very sensitive to ppl i love being upset with me for things that i could just have said yes to and avoid conflict.

[@stefanmakara373]

@@onlinecomment I do think human beings can be hurt by words, yes Also, SHE nade drama? She made 2 posts. Kardashians are the ones who milked it.

[@seasshocker]

The only time she "fell" was in Jump Then Fall Because she fell in Love

[@anirudhpurohitt]

Even then SHE didn't fall, she was asking the guy to fall

[@rasberrywitch]

@Tired What?

[@VRIceblast]

Anyone who knows Taylor would have known, that Taylor had way too much PR, people were tired of hearing her name, and seeing her face, she was oversaturated in the public eye. She even said something like this on that phone call. The last thing Taylor wanted was more PR. Taylor was planning to take a long break from the public eye, before West did what he did. Because too much PR is a bad thing. Taylor got all the PR anyone ever wanted, by just walking outside, and buying a cup of coffee. She didn't need PR. West did though, he needed the PR, because he was releasing a album. He was using her to get that PR. That's why he was secretly recording the call, making it look like she approved of everything. Taylor trusted West to do right by her, because they just rebuilt their friendship, and she had done a lot of work to do it. So she never thought he would stab her in the back like he did. That's the reason the video of the call was edited, to make it look the way they wanted. Taylor doesn't attack people, she reacts to people attacking her. The media twisted everything she said, and did, because negative stories was clickbait gold, they made millions lying about Taylor. They tried their hardest to tear her down. Anyone who wasn't a real fan of hers, only had what the tabloids were saying, and they believed every single thing. While her Swifties, knew what was the truth, and what was bs. Taylor couldn't say, or do anything without it being twisted into something bad, and the haters on forums were so insane, I swear they were being paid to bad mouth her. Out of around 200 songs, only around 8 songs are about ex's, and only 2 of those were zingers. For someone to say, that Taylor only writes songs about her ex's is revealing you have no idea what your talking about. It's the same as saying they read the tabloids. Taylor has always been open with her fans, and they know her so well, that they can see the bs a mile away. Back then, Taylor couldn't go anywhere without a camera on her. She could never be the things the haters called her, because there would have been video proof of it, and with all the haters she had, they would have happily posted anything bad they could find.

[@vedpurangyan4930]

Well said 👏👏

[@vedpurangyan4930]

Well said 👏👏

[@taylorspolaroid7730]

wait why is too much PR a bad thing

[@VRIceblast]

@@taylorspolaroid7730 Taylor has a lot of haters, who believe every negative thing that the tabloid rags said about her. All any media company had to do was put Taylor's name in the headline, and it was money in the bank, and people love to read hate more, and it's easier to write it. During Taylor's 1989 era, SHE WAS EVERYWHERE. It was like you couldn't walk 10 feet, or go 10 mins without seeing something about her or hearing something about her. It was Taylor 24 hours a day. Eventually, people will get tired of constantly having her in their face, and really start to dislike anything to do with her the moment they encounter her. All that PR she was getting would start to backfire on her, and instead of raising her Star, her Star would start to quickly drop, and that's the last thing you want. So, this whole West thing happened, when a lot of people were getting tired of seeing nothing but her all day long. You know the saying, too much of a good thing. Taylor also didn't need to do stunts to get PR. She literally, could walk out of her house, walk down the street, and buy a coffee and a bagel, and be on the front page of everything. Even gaming webpages were putting her on the front page. Her name was money in the bank. West needed PR for his new album, and he wanted to get back at Taylor for his past bad decisions. So he put this plan into actions.

[@taylorspolaroid7730]

@@VRIceblast oo thank you for taking the time to explain

[@mariamst2096]

in conclusion ,taylor is a very strong women and talented artist and hands down the best lyricist of our generation if not of all time ,and the Reputation whole phase made the fans stronger cuz we the one that believed in her its just so special and its like at this point made us strong as a fandom like they could be telling anything abt her in an article but since we know what good of a heart and a soul she is we don't care and it surely opened doors for new big ass fan that fell in love with her talent and story telling and I know for a fact that she is here to stay and she will be remembered 20 30 40 50 100 years later. One last thing I think her career is only beginning cuz I feel that now she could do anything and we ll love it ,wich is the case with folklore and evermore, something that really gives her the space to be creative and do whatever the hell she wants. Sorry If this was long thx for this amazing video

[@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540]

come on now, she's great, but not the best lyricist of all time... ffs...

[@vedpurangyan4930]

❤❤❤❤

[@vedpurangyan4930]

@@fghdrdthtgfghjhdf2540 they didn't say "best of all time". You're just lookin for drama here. Ain't nothing here for u, get out

[@mansooryousaf1918]

There was literally no fall , lover era was just overshadowed by billie record and thank you next was killing it too . but there is no fall for taylor.

[@tapoose1475]

Like im just buffled as well….she was still selling….maybe she is talking abt public opinion 😂

[@auguststansarethebest1506]

lover outsold tun too but I guess TUN's singles are so famous

[@CS-pg4go]

i think ME! and lover's single choices really turned off most of the GP. It's pretty evident with spotify streaming numbers. Folklore managed to be the most streamed female album in 24 hours on spotify beating out tun.

[@magicalworld4891]

The video is about Taylor's public image fall, not her commerical performance. Her commerical performance never fell

[@daniellasalguero2578]

no, the singles she chose overshadowed it. She didn’t care… but cruel summer would have been the blank space of 2019. She just chose not to.

[@rebeccakleinsmith]

I appreciate so much the diverse angles taken on this video. It’s real, honest, and entirely valid. The research and work put in are fantastic. Thank you for making this!

[@idontevenhaveapla7224]

Is it really "valid" to say that it was miscommunication when she SPECIFICALLY told him she didn't want to be called a "bitch" ? Why the fuck does EVERYONE have blinders on when it comes to holding men accountable???

[@maudenightrain]

how does this have under 600 views! this is amazingly put together!!

[@kathxclarke]

thank you! :)

[@rebeccarachel243]

I agree! Amazing! Like a real documentary

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

Quite a few more views now

[@revermore3959]

"Taylor Swift is the pop culture's phoenix, every time she disappears she is reborn from her ashes" I'm gonna be using that sentence a lot. Thank you

[@lkcullen1918]

"Honey, I rose up from the dead, I do it all the time" ❤‍🔥

[@IJODIN]

what i can say the fall make her stronger and beyond than she thought. she became more brave to speak out about everything she feel like its wrong. Taylor Swift become more stronger . love her so much

[@aaliyahfoster2705]

it also changed the way Swifties became stronger and would always have receipts against haters too.

[@TheRubyGamersTRG]

I love how during the call, when talking about the “I made her famous” line, Taylor was like “you have to tell it the way you experienced it, even if I already sold 7 million of that album before it happened, which is what happened”

[@archer1949]

All I know is that I can’t stop listening to “The Last Great American Dynasty”.

[@itsflowerside]

i don't agree with what you said at 5:50. it did NOT appear to be like this at the time. everyone who watched the video could tell that kanye was at fault, people just didn't bother to actually listen because it was fun to jump on the train of hating her. the power uninformed, angry, (incel) internet trolls have over a narrative is actually incredibly chilling.

[@stefanmakara373]

this!! Not only that but after Tayler asked for the footage where Kanye told her she'll be called a bitch, Kim didn't provide it, she just hid smugly behind the trolls. Anyone with braincells could see it was a setup.

[@racheljordan2020]

I agree. The narrative was clear from the beginning, people were just choosing not to listen.

[@stefanmakara373]

@@lbcn04sloc28 I think the point that they are trying to make is that it was obvious who was lying at the moment- as in, people who jumped on the hate train weren't "confused" they actively chose to hate Taylor. Because yes, the internet pretty much hated Taylor at that point in time. However, it wasn't due to the unclear details, it was because of an agenda. I say this because atm I wasn't a fan of Swift personally, but I listened to the available audio and read both statements and I pretty much called bollocks on Kim's story.

[@cinnagirl_0714]

I went to Taylor’s reputation tour in London and it was AMAZINGGGGG

[@ainsleyfr]

you’re so lucky ahaha

[@aquariusblik5963]

Luckyyyyy 😫

[@peytonjames]

all the people in the comments saying she didn’t fall, but cmon swifties lets be honest. the entire public turned against her. that’s a fall. but she did have the best comeback of all time. and that’s that on that

[@idontevenhaveapla7224]

They mean commercially. Public might've turned. But despite being released at the end of the year, Reputation became the biggest selling album of the year. It's only a fall according to Taylor Swift standards!

[@asminandy5952]

I hope Taylor makes 13 albums, my life will be complete 🙂

[@sylvy16]

because of her re-recordings she will definitely have technically made 13 albums by next year.

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

She stiLL young and Can make 13 ALBUMS

[@REMmaple]

This is a criminally underrated video

[@wellbrock]

Just found this today. Great video! I love the end, "I, for one, will be anxiously awaiting for what comes next..." Well, look at her now...

[@Me-vn3gz]

This deserves more views

[@swiftectioner1637]

My future grave shall read '' I pulled 7 million off that album before you did that''

[@aidentan6547]

what do u mean fall? she only rise because we will support her no matter what!

[@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi]

Thank God this happened. It just made people realise how stupid Kim and Kanye is and only proved Taylor was truthful

[@tammyhay1437]

Yes there never was a " fall".

[@rasberrywitch]

@@willg1088 you don't have to tear down an artist to lift another Billie eilish is an amazing singer

[@rasberrywitch]

@@willg1088 umm..yes. go to one of her songs called Happier than Ever

[@rasberrywitch]

@@willg1088 OK sure because people can change a sound or the meaning of a song

[@workamy]

Taylor just keeps winning honestly

[@alexisatkinson7420]

Great job! I really liked this video. I especially like how you gave outside context about the state of society/ politics racial or otherwise surrounding the dialogue of these moments in her career. It's a very complex issue that I'm glad someone dived into and I'm also glad that now we have a full arc for this redemption tale or rather as my mom says "You can outlive a lie," or as I say, "You can't outrun the truth." Really well done! :D

[@meghansullivan6812]

I will quite literally never get over how WELL taylor orchestrated her comeback. the guts, poise, and confidence that that must've taken! she had the whole world against her and she still managed (or perhaps it is the reason) to drop this incredible, iconic, targeted album defending herself but also celebrating her newfound love! love love love love!!!

[@cvdf7621]

But she has definitely lost some of her popularity and fans, she hasn't had such big breakthroughs in the charts since 1989

[@nimcocabdi-cd6yt]

@cvdf7621 but now her midnight ulbum sold 1.5 million copies since her reputation ulbum,she filled billboard hot 100 songs most streemed ulbum by one day, and week most streamed artist in 2023 ,anti hero charted 8 weeks in number one and have two songs reached the number1 radio since her reputation also biggest tour that predicted to gross over one billion without merch so she is huge

[@jlugoholt]

She is a phoenix, she cannot be destructed only reborn by herself. She is an artist and embodies a strong wise and unique woman.

[@webcomiclulu9056]

she is the strongest woman I know. So glad to have her as my role model.

[@thescientist5875]

That’s the first time I see that kanye and taylor conversation, imagine being kanye fake and lying to someone’s face pretending you’re friends when you actually are plotting and shit, that’s miserable

[@bawin384]

rep is a rise imo. showed her versatility

[@javierbarrios5698]

She never said that rep was the fall, she said that Kim posting the phone call video was TS fall, and then rep was her rising again

[@stefanmakara373]

@@javierbarrios5698 Agreed. honestly the only fall Taylor ever had (or could have, really) is the one about her publicity. All of her albums were rightful major successes.

[@matty7410]

I remember that one ellen interview where she talked about joe jonas and she was like, yeah if you break my heart, I'll just get even by writing a song about you. I'm so happy how far she's came

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

Sweet

[@mia-we4uf]

Taylor Swift simply is the music industry, no one shall ever rise against her

[@peterjacob7664]

I think her "flop" era was LOVER, no no 1 song, debut album under 1 million, underwhelmed reception glad the ERAS TOUR give this album a justice

[@verydenise]

This was the best summary and analysis of anything ever. Wow. You captured every aspect of this story, and did so eloquently.

[@charliewarlie31415]

THIS WAS AN AMAZING FIRST VIDEO ESSAY!! the background music was on point toooo

[@MissRepas24]

Think about this. If u think she’s fake and a liar, do you really think she would have came back?? Like, she came back bc all the things people were saying were lies and she was like “im not gonna let lies take me down. I’m gonna come back and show everyone that i am strong, but this time, i’m not gonna be let down by the media and i’m just gonna be fully myself” and that was amazing, she really said “IM BACK BICHES, AND IM HERE TO STAY”

[@vi6ilanteshit]

This was so on point. Just accurate y’know

[@emilycox6560]

I have never listened to Taylor Swift voluntarily but Evermore and Folklore are honestly on repeat.

[@optimisms]

People in the comments saying "she never really fell" are absolutely delusional. were y'all around in 2016? were y'all taylor swift fans at the time? cause if you were, there's no way you could say that she never fell

[@Thebalancewitch1134]

I love love love that you made this video twelve minutes and thirteen seconds ;) (12/13 TSwift’s Bday). Honestly blessed to share a birthday with her ✨

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

Eh? My youngest sister's birthday

[@koshkosh333]

What I found weird was that no one mentions that not only did Kim edit the phone call video but it’s actually illegal in California to record phone conversations without the others permission

[@alexisatkinson7420]

"Sometimes it's subtle... sometimes it's a flash of light..but it's always a spectacle and it's always fascinating and surprising..." couldn't agree more *after years in quiet darkness, from a Fearless filled mp3 player at 14 to dancing in my college dorm on my birthday singing "I'm feeling [20 TOO]" I can finally emerge, a long time low-key Swiftie* My friend Rachel (the only person who knew how deep this ran) would be so proud 🥲 ☺️

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

Genius

[@stuartblittley3531]

this is the most swiftie video on the internet and i love it

[@rherd]

“The fall”, releases Red and 1989, two of the most successful album cycles any artist has ever released. And I would argue the best back to back albums an artist has ever released.

[@anisanurraudah8383]

Commercially yes but artistically that would be folklore evermore.

[@kitfrias3469]

Hell yes Red and 1989 were so dissed in this video but both albums were a revelation of how diverse and creative and complex T could be after years of solid country.

[@Cutiemaan]

I would say her “fall” would be Lover and Rep ( to the general public at least ). 1989 was her peak

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@Cutiemaan Since she started off as a county singer, if county music ever comes back she might have a bigger peak.

[@genesisparel2663]

and now, after back to back well-received album in a year, she just re-released fearless (and eventually the other albums in her catalog) and look at the consequences against those who tried to usurp the royalties of her masters

[@MAY_sharma.]

She came back stronger than a 😊90's trend.

[@MAY_sharma.]

@@lavenyr fr

[@BinWeyde25]

I love this, thank you for making it 🥺 it's really useful for us new Swifties

[@peymanyaghoubi6560]

She never fell , even in 2016 she was selling millions of albums and reputation was also huge , TAYLOR SWIFT IS A QUEEN AND IS THE BEST SONG WRITER OF OUR GENERATION

[@NkirukasWrld]

ur videos are really nice, very informative, interesting and straight to the point!

[@alexisatkinson7420]

She really is QUEEN of the Pivot, absolutely. She's strategic and thoughtful and saavy and intelligent all while remaining adaptable, charismatic, creatively vulnerable, and gracious. I don't think anyone can take that from her ever because that's her character and it speaks for itself. Not many can say the same.

[@asminandy5952]

Pop Culture Phoenix ~ really one of the best words to describe Taylor. She never goes out of style…

[@BadeniaFilme]

Expected this to be made by a 100K channel. Great video.

[@littlekiwi9792]

Taylor Swift did come back stronger than a nineties trend👑

[@leslierhodes5467]

To survive you have to to evolve there are not many artists who do this Taylor is a great example

[@talia3053]

anyone saying she has a victim complex is being sexist

[@allaboutmika]

she will always be known worldwide for her amazing music

[@The_Raipur_Guy]

Great video, amazing script and your voice is very soothing

[@127ante]

you should have included her 2019 rolling stone interview. it explains very well everything that lead to the phone call and her reaction to the lyrics

[@s_sanjh]

UNNECESSARY INTRODUCTION IS: "HEY GUYS, I'M TAYLOR" Which she always does like ma'am, we already know you, THE GLOBAL ICON AND THE ARTIST OF THE DECADE!

[@dhartimaadam8477]

tbh, it's refreshing to hear someone introduce taylor swift.

[@swiftieforever9793]

she NEVER had a music low..... like all her albums are its and peaks.... she has ever flopped and is unbelievibly consistent

[@jueedhar1545]

Yes girl ! Loved the video ... Ps I didn't know the 2016 Kanye beef, all I know about Kanye is that he is the strange guy from the VMAs incident. Frankly as a Gen z er idk if it Kanye making taylor famous, or the other way, Taylor keeping Kanye relevant. I don't care, my queen is here to slay and now i can appreciate her Look what u made me do video more, I had no idea of the story behind all of this...

[@catherinecamarda1639]

thank you for helping me write my ap lang essay :)

[@Nanno888]

Reputation is Something that Brought me into Taylor Swift

[@swiftenthusiast2632]

Glad that I got this in my recommendation

[@sixlenses1708]

i love that you informed people about system matic racism and showed how both sides use it and to treat everyone equally.

[@seemadhandar7195]

Fall ???!?! Lmao Taylor never had a fall , reputation was the highest grossing Tour in US, reputation was the best selling album of 2018....

[@kamallb4650]

I think the fall was associated with her image. She never had any scandal and was(is) one of the cleanest celebrity out there(considering the stardom).

[@WytchieBytch]

It's also clear that she was uncomfortable during the phone call, she wasn,'t like "yea that sounds good" she said "what am I gonna do about it" and passive aggressively mentioned how well her album did before he interrupted her on stage. It seemed very obvious to me that she was just trying to avoid more conflict with him.

[@Chimchim-tt7sc]

Me, knowing the whole story, but still listening to each chapter as if it'll be on my exam next month 🙂

[@Kai-qw7ke]

I love your random comments between the video makes it so much more 🤩

[@maudenightrain]

So happy to be able go come back to this video to see if getting the attention it deserves

[@Mydogismypfp]

now this is the rise and fall and rise and fall slightly and rise extremely

[@charlenechan8189]

AHH THIS VIDEO IS SO WELL MADE!!! EXACTLY!! WELL SAID

[@hudsonlewis8843]

Taylor swift is the music industry

[@mrudulajames5819]

Now she has become above all VMAs and Grammy's. She is the best artist, her talent is unmatched , no matter what people say about her.

[@user-yc3fw6vq5n]

Concept Queen