The Rise and Fall of FIFTY FIFTY

[@celebiglives9842]

It’s the way they had the WHOLE KPOP experience in less than a year.

[@axelaazej]

😭

[@Boingo1625]

Fr 😭

[@Rockstar11111]

This is called "speed run" 😂😂

[@Antoninkaa111]

Omg fr😭

[@soulare]

​@@Boingo1625The girls and the producer got greedy. Basically, they're over after blindsiding their original company. This why international fans shouldn't always side with idols without knowing the real story.

[@ShadowQuestGaming]

When a song is more popular than the group itself, it never ends well.

[@superbluerock8327]

That was so deep

[@bdh711]

I thought this would end in 2023

[@zuffin1864]

rip momoland

[@GenX7119]

You makes no sense! They have been music release with an artist and they still blew up; Milli Vanilli; Boney M; all of the music was more popular than the artist! What about New Jeans🤡

[@GenX7119]

@@superbluerock8327 You makes no sense! They have been music release with an artist and they still blew up; Milli Vanilli; Boney M; all of the music was more popular than the artist! What about New Jeans🤡

[@teatree3130]

For the first time in K-pop history The CEO is the victim🌚😂😂

[@lawkey14]

fr lol I never thought I'd feel sorry for the CEO

[@AskMe-fl2sm]

Who knows?I mean how do u know he is victim?

[@SuchaMinitra]

The thing is this is nothing new there are whole histories of some new fame artists who think they know better and try some bs to end their contract to be with bigger company

[@lovetsumugi.a]

​@@AskMe-fl2smif you follow the news(dispatch etc), you'll now

[@ikancupang5521]

​@@AskMe-fl2smDispatch post it

[@BadDayNn]

They had an amazing debut, the most successful release internationally (for a rookie gg), flods of haters, conspiracy theories, signed with Warner, plagiarism accusations, a deal for Barbie The Album, a hiatus, "external forces" situation, and now a sue from the members, all in a couple of months. They really lived the experience of all k-pop groups combined in less than a year.

[@aleacer]

😂😂😂

[@andrewtaylor940]

And the girls didn’t get paid. So yep! Speed running the Kpop industry

[@BadDayNn]

@@andrewtaylor940 Well, it ain't uncommon in K-pop industry, is it?

[@uaena4151]

THEIR BARBIE MUSIC HAS BEEN CANCELLED I HEARD AND ALSO OTHER COLLABS AND EMDORSEMENTS

[@BadDayNn]

@@uaena4151 they really went from nugu, to top10 gg reputation, to being cancelled in 4 months omg 😭

[@akshayaravi7680]

I've been in kpop for a while now and this is the first time I'm feeling sympathy for a company, hope the ceo wins the trail

[@winxclubflora8446]

Sameee i hope the ceo wins but dumps this group. The company and ceo should invest on better singers and leave these greedy girls

[@drscluaria]

​@@winxclubflora8446dont hes literally a liar he didnt sell his car or nun he used their profits to pay off his debts, he starved them if their parents brought them food he would make them throw it out while insulting them, they literally had panic attacks bc of that man, he couldnt care less ab them, and they keep releasing remixes to cause a distraction

[@noface2085]

This is sick. Y’all know damn well that he was exploiting these girl. How are we victim blaming rn?

[@gatto1004]

@@noface2085 CEO가 피해자입니다. 지금은 알때가 되었잖아요?

[@eugenehan8045]

Me too! The more I get to know about CEO JHJ, the more reverence towards him I respect him so much, and very appreciate his warm heart for current 5 girls.

[@lurker2147]

Anyone else feels sorry for the CEO? He deserves credit for putting all of these talented people together in a way that worked and put his own neck in the line for everyone to succeed, and now he's being betrayed by everyone

[@krysivory493]

They're NOT talented. 🤣

[@floralrain]

​@@krysivory493they're much more talented then you and your goofy face

[@sunglee3935]

He sold his car and his watch to make the album

[@sunglee3935]

@@verytired7744 lied about what?

[@Belle_vie]

@@sunglee3935they’re delusional. They can’t understand Korean and what dispatch revealed. It was the members that lied

[@jilljiggle4463]

Normally in Korea when conflict happens the public usually take the idol 's side. But this time everyone is with the CEO. The money and work he puts to the group (still a rookie group) is no joke. Foreign fans don't be fooled by fake Infos there's absolutely no mistreatment. Even some famous producers have spoken publicly to support the CEO and saying that they will never provide songs to these girl after what they did 🤡🙋🏻‍♀️

[@김또깡-y3k]

맞아요😢 👍

[@misterbobby8913]

Wow

[@ColumbusMaine]

I would like to hear the girls' side of the story. There are ALWAYS two sides to an argument.

[@kristat8176]

​@@ColumbusMainethey side is already there tho , aren't they the ones who sued the company first

[@ColumbusMaine]

@@kristat8176 The entire situation remains very mysterious. We have NOT heard the whole story yet. At least, I haven't seen it anywhere. My natural sympathies are with these young innocent girls. (It's possible some adult took advantage of their innocense and manipulated them into doing something foolish. I don't know yet. We will see.)

[@civy9241]

What a shame. Company treated them so well and members ended up like this

[@flaggov6949]

They're saying the company violated their contract, refused to be transparent about their pay, forced them to work when they were unwell, and disclosed private health information of a member to the public without even consulting her. If that's true, they aren't being treated well.

[@kidellie3537]

@@flaggov6949 You are wrong bro

[@flaggov6949]

I've read their statement and this is what they're saying.

[@MagicalArtist7]

@@flaggov6949 They literally had like months of resting time. They did not work hard at all. all of that is just an excuse.

[@AtomaJava]

@@MagicalArtist7 Yeah didnt they refuse to promote during Arans surgery or something?

[@보름달-c7e]

I'm Korean and I would like to inform you of the current situation using a translator. The head of the agency sold his car and invested his entire fortune in producing the album of Fifty Fifty. Although it was a poor small agency, the CEO gave them a lot of support, such as giving them a large house with three rooms and two bathrooms as accommodation. However, Fifty Fifty filed a lawsuit against the CEO, claiming that they had not received a settlement. It took years for the BTS to receive settlement, and it is ridiculous that a rookie idol who has only debuted seven months ago wants settlement. Because there's a huge amount of investment going into their debut. The betrayed representative said he is only praying to his late father. Their trial was held today in Korea. Please pray for CEO's victory.

[@Catchy_1]

Did u read today's trial???

[@whatever6455]

@@Catchy_1 The trial just started today, so I expect it will take a day or 2 for the info to come out. Or is it out already? Where do you find it?

[@ThatUnLuCkYoXyGenDuRinGJINRaP]

The ceo said, they wants 50/50 to be next BTS ..A BTS female version!!..but he forgot there is no next BTS.. BTS r still down to earth even after this much popularity..It took them years to got success..They made bighit, a pretty small company to hybe label.. but never try to leave bighit to join bigger company

[@보름달-c7e]

​​​​​@@Catchy_1 Fifty Fifty applied to the agency for an injunction to suspend the exclusive contract and the first hearing date was held. Fifty Fifty corrected the story that we are not asking for money, we just want to get the settlement data, and that there is a problem with the agency's capabilities, and the CEO is trying to protect young children, saying they seem to have made the wrong choice because of greedy adults. Fifty Fifty says it's not about money, but it turns out that they applied for a contract termination with their agency and registered a personal trademark in front of them, and eventually thought of sharing music fees. The CEO will lose money and the artist, and eventually lose or win the trial, the biggest loss. In Korea, public sentiment for Fifty Fifty is very bad and everyone is cheering for the CEO. It is expected to be a very long and dirty trial.

[@4viewing]

Why ask for settlement when the group is just 7 months old and barely had any activity that brings profits? And they dare complain about the agency’s capabilities when their agency successfully made their song go viral on tiktok, got them deals a rookie could never even dream of, and made them known outside of Korea first because, tbh they’re nothing exceptional in Korea yet and can’t compete with dozens of other hardworking talented groups? If they just wanted to know about the settlement, why register the license of their group name before they officially sued the CEO? Why call a different agency’s CEO the boss when they’re not even aware that their legitimate employer sold his car and watch to fund them and his elderly mom spent a lot of money to also fund them? If they wanted to move to a bigger label, at least they should’ve had the guts to face facts, accept criticism for ditching a small company that sponsored them and being the greedy gold diggers they are. They’re all over age 20. Legally responsible adults, not little children who know no better and got used between adult CEOs.

[@4viewing]

** For overseas fans: The CEO didn’t lie. The members did. Evidence of how the group and their parents carefully planned to move labels and pay minimum penalty was revealed. Their parents secretly licensed the name fifty fifty in korean and all their names as well. The members themselves celebrated the birthday of Siahn (the other CEO who is the suspected outside agency that wanted to buy them out and sell them to the unsuspecting Warner music) and called HIM “their boss” as early as April. Their lawyers are claiming that the agency “forced” the group on a rigorous schedule against their will which is ludicrous because they only appeared on tv/radio just 22 times in total during 7 months while other average kpop groups rarely have a resting day attending college festivals, music concerts, entertainment programs, commercial ads, overseas activities, etc, which is how entertainment companies earn most of their profits. There is a phone call record between Warner music and their legitimate CEO discussing the sell out of FiftyFifty in which Warner music is shocked that the CEO HAD NO IDEA that a deal was on the table because some other third party was secretly trying to sell them out behind his back. There are phone chats between the CEO and Siahn about how Siahn was acting as liaison between the CEO and the group and the parents. Siahn and the girls carefully limited the groups last activity to a bare minimum stating one of the member’s operation to request a two weeks rest. What’s weird is that they asked for a two weeks rest not only from the member who got the operation, but the entire group, which is rather unusual as other groups continued their musical careers regardless of one sick member. The phone chat reveals how the CEO was understanding and generous to allow them all to take leave, which clashes with the group’s claim that the agency tried to push them. The CEO and the small agency really did a lot for these girls as well as his family who invested their own money on these “sweet girls” as the CEO is still in denial that his protégé would backstab him like this. We Koreans really were proud of a miracle kpop group who made the billboards but we’re also very concerned that justice should be dealt to ppl who are ungrateful and arrogant that the success was solely due to themselves or some other devious businessmen. So overseas fans, if you really love kpop, please boycott this song and stop your support because every support is hurting an innocent CEO and the agency who worked hard to bring about this miracle and have lost everything already because the group’s future in Korea is already finished.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Well now the ceo isn’t being honest either

[@dusknight1949]

You seem to be leaving out the fact that the girls asked for financial statements as is their right. The statements shows zero sales income, zero promotion income. Why? Because all the money immediately went to Star Crew Entertainment, to which JHJ is also the CEO. This is done to pay off a loan to Interpark who gave 9 billion won to Starcrew. A debt Starcrew is repaying with profits from Attrackt and Fifty fifty without their permission. This means they are at a consistent negative in company profits for a loan to a company they are not apart of WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE. Also this loan was processed 2 years ago and the CEO admits he paid 6 billion won for the girls to debut. Where is the other 3 million? Starcrew entertainment! That excess funds show he did not sell his car or his Rolex and if he did then he didn’t need to but rather made a story for public sympathy. The girls would be in debt form an external loan for finances they are unsure whether they are being used personally by the CEO or if the apartment in Gangnam is just going to wrack up more debt for them, the way BBC did to Loona.

[@김군-b9u]

@@dusknight1949 아.. 해외는 소식이 늦다. 이 이야기는 이미 구식이다. 두 개의 법인이 여러 계약과 뒤엉켜 있는 것은 이미 당사자와 부모에게 고지와 확인이 끝난 상황이다. FF의 시작은 Star Crew Ent 였다. 단순히 여론을 어지럽히려는 선동이다. 계속 반박 자료가 나오고 있으며 JHJ 치명적인 배임과 횡령이 아니라면 여론은 뒤집어 지지 않는다. 한국의 리스너들은 한국Ent 업계에 대해 너무 많이 보고 들었다. FF가 거액의 투자금 80억 원에 걸맞는 안락한 데뷔생활을 한 것을 부정하는 여론은 매우 적다. 사실과 다를 수 있어도, 언급한 Star Crew Ent의 횡령 문제 만큼의 규모는 결코 불가능하다. 그러나, 광고, 공연 등은 위약금을 줄이기 위한 태업으로 모두 취소가 되었고, 발생 가능한 수익은 음원인데 그 음원에 대한 모든 권리는 원청업체인 JHJ와 협의없이 SIAHN이 취득한 상태이다. 저작권자를 JHJ 명의로 바꾼다는 이유로 돈을 받았다는 녹취록도 공개 되었다. 삼성 갤럭시의 자동 통화 녹음 기능은 위대하다. FF는 수익이 없으며 JHJ 조차 아무것도 얻은 것이 없다. 그리고 모든 것을 잃었다. 아직 재판은 시작도 하지 않았다. 재판 전 단계의 최초 심문만 있었을 뿐이다. 하지만 누가 칼을 들었고 누가 찔렸는지는 명확하다. 고소의 이유조차 지나치게 조잡해서 SIAHN의 팬페이지로 대피한 극소수의 훌리건 FF팬덤만이 반대 여론을 지탱하고 있다. 아마도, 당신은 그것과 접촉한 것이라 생각한다. 정산의 오류는 SIAHN측의 과실과 시간차 누락이며 신의성실하게 수정한 문제이다. 아마도 재판을 열 구실로 삼고 여론을 움직이려 한 것으로 보이나 여론은 놀라울 정도로 견고했다. 그녀들은 달콤하고 꿈같은 시작을 했다. 그것은 JHJ의 피와 땀과 눈물로 만들어졌다. 강남의 아파트는 소녀들만의 빚이 아니다. 직접투자금은 소속사와 분담하여 상환한다. 소녀들의 사치스러운 트레이닝 비용과 주거비용을 소속사도 함께 지원한 것이다. 그리고 교육과 훈련이 미래를 위한 주춧돌이 되도록 자금을 집행 한 것이므로, Daddy-Long-Legs의 선한 마음이다. 한국 5대 ENT를 제외하면 이런 투자를 할 수 있는 회사는 매우 드물다. 외부의 빚도 아니다. 조잡한 소송사유에 보태지 않을 이유가 없다. 오피셜을 믿어라. 이 드라마의 주인공은 FF가 아니라 JHJ이다. 그는 매우 지쳤지만, 슬기롭게 모든 시련을 부수고 있다. 당신의 애정과 관심이 나를 감정적이게 만들었다. 그래서 글이 길어졌다. FF가 행복해 질 수 있는 유일한 길은 JHJ가 승리하고 그들을 용서하는 것이다. 다만 대중은 그것을 별로 원하지 않는다.

[@ludwigneigl891]

Koreans get played by their media. Yesterday all News made articles about how nice the CEO is. That he was the only one who supported lee jihye 2 decades ago. In reality it turns out he was the pr manager on the side of the bullies why tried to played down the bullying. Its crazy to see how even big News in Korea openly lie despite there is Video who proof they lie.

[@ultraviolet8924]

회사가 그들에게 돈을 지불하지 않았다는 사실이 아니라 CEO가 소녀들의 어깨에 막대한 빚을 졌다는 사실이었습니다. 데뷔 이후 그들이 벌어들인 모든 수입은 터무니없는 부채를 줄이는 데 사용되었지만, 문제는 ATTRAKT/Jeon Hong Joon이 영수증을 주지 않았기 때문에 그룹에 4.6M USD를 정확히 어떻게 썼는지 투명하지 않다는 것입니다. 이 단체는 ATTRAKT와의 독점 계약을 중단하라는 금지 명령을 제출했으며 금지 명령 재판 결과가 나올 때까지 그를 상대로 형사 고소를 제기 할 예정이다. FIFTY FIFTY 이름은 그룹 가족 구성원에 의해 상표 등록되었으며 상표도 ATTRAKT에 의해 분쟁 중입니다. 전홍준은 또한 관련 당사자(아란과 그녀의 가족)의 명시적인 동의 없이 개인 정보(아란의 건강 상태 및 수술 필요성)를 공개했는데, 이는 계약 조건을 위반하는 것입니다. 제2자 제작/매니지먼트 회사인 The Givers는 ATTRAKT와 계약을 맺고 FIFTY FIFTY의 음악을 모집, 훈련 및 제작했습니다. 그들은 지금까지 FIFTY FIFTY의 모든 측면 (MV 및 음악)을 담당합니다. Givers는 SIAHN으로도 알려진 안성일이 이끌고 있습니다. 전홍준에게 알려지지 않은 SIAHN은 Cupid에 대한 저작권을 구입했는데, 이는 그가 노래의 프로듀싱을 만들었기 때문에 법적으로나 도덕적으로 허용되었습니다. 전홍준은 1세대 Kpop으로 거슬러 올라가 PR에서 일했던 경력을 가진 오래된 업계 선수입니다. 그는 믿을 수 없을 정도로 잘 연결되어 있으며 자신의 인맥을 사용하여 여론을 자신에게 유리하게 흔들고 있습니다. 그는 모두 신인 아이돌인 소녀들에 대한 설득력 있는 비방 캠페인을 만들 수 있는 자원과 인맥을 가지고 있습니다. 그는 또한 2014년부터 2021년까지 HOTSHOT이라는 보이 그룹을 관리하는 책임을 맡고 있는데, 이 그룹도 멤버들이 레이블과 계약을 맺었음에도 불구하고 기본적으로 자신의 그룹을 홍보할 수 없었을 때 스캔들로 끝났습니다. 간단히 말해서, 딱딱하고 그늘진 임원 유형은 신인 그룹을 끌어들이려고 시도하고 법원을 통해 이에 직면하고 현재 모든 관련 당사자의 공개 이미지를 손상시키려고 합니다. 비방 캠페인은 소녀들을 절대적으로 갈가리 찢는 MV에 대한 한국인의 댓글이 얼마나 많은지를 감안할 때 매우 효과적입니다(SK에 내재된 여성혐오와 젊은 여성 아이돌이 쉬운 표적이라는 점을 감안할 때 놀라운 일이 아닙니다). 바라건대 소송은 아이돌에게 유리하게 진행되고 범죄 CEO는 그가 속한 감옥에 갇히게 됩니다.

[@jacksonpark381]

This is why I feel so bad for the CEO and why I hate the member's parents 1. The CEO made 8000million won(6 million$) investment himself, by selling his 10 year worn rollex, cars, and his house. 2. The CEO teached the members to learn English by love and care for 2 years.(they went from 0-100) 3. After 'Cupid' went viral, the CEO got promised to receive 8 million$ to his account but the producer(who made Cupid) found out that it all went to CEO's account, he was mad and made rumors about the CEO and tried to steal Fifty FIfty and make a new entertainment. 4. Conclusionally, Fifty Fifty members filed a law suit to the CEO for not giving them the 'album money' and "not working properly as a CEO". Yet they didn't know that the Album had a hit at April 2023 and in order to receive the money, they have to wait a YEAR but they were too clueless...the Parents actually... I just feel sad for the group and mostly for the CEO. I hope he don't do the worst(yk...)

[@letsthegamebegins4435]

Bro bro but is it ok for you to not get paid for 7 months without any reason I think his management is very poor that's why this all is happening cause reports are telling that he made a 20b k won investment only on promotion of cupid are u insane I think cupid is such a song which was going to do good in market on its own even major labels don't even do so much of investment only for promotion it's all happening cause as a CEO he is not capable for the right adjustment of his artists

[@yoortyyo5540]

@@letsthegamebegins4435 yes that's ok. it's very normal in kpop industry for rookies to pay back their debt before getting any pay. this has been happening for decades so don't pretend this is a "new" issue. lol

[@letsthegamebegins4435]

@@yoortyyo5540 bro yaa I know this but what about their health but I think this all happens when a agency failed to make a proper judgement

[@Seohyun7]

@@letsthegamebegins4435 are you new to kpop? it takes years for groups from smaller companies to get their first paycheck..

[@jacksonpark381]

@@letsthegamebegins4435 Listen. getting money from promotion has no relation from the salaries they need to get paid. Twice for example, got paid 2 years after their first title got out. Getting the money from a song takes a long time, and Fifty Fifty has not been to ANY concert so them not getting paid is COMPLETELY reasonable. Once again, the promotion money is for their music video money, all the group's food, house, and the company's management fees. Their first 'hit' song was Cupid which was viral after it was released 2 months. Also recently, a phone call was recorded about other entertainment trying to 'buy out' Fifty FIfty WITHOUT the CEO knowing. Yall should actually research more. Thank you.

[@Skdjebdbdmsmn]

Please pray for CEO... He'a really good guy.... I feel really sad for him... 😭

[@MichaelHarto]

As someone who had been betrayed as CEO before. I know how hurtful it is.

[@SquirtlePower809]

That is really terrible. I'm sorry to hear that. I can only imagine dedicating all of your time, money, energy into something just to have people betray you.

[@oxbimo]

Girl bye 💀🤣

[@varunkandhari4819]

Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.

[@varunkandhari4819]

Ohh how awful it is to be a bully and ask for sympathy 😂😂

[@theman5614]

@@varunkandhari4819 I might be wrong but I think it's the other way round where he was the one who actually helped the victim and brought light to what was actually happening? At to least from some articles and videos that are available. The others were actually going to win but he spoke the truth instead.

[@daphnehsuchin]

I've been following K pop groups for years, especially the girl groups. These girls aren't really exceptionally talented (by K Pop standards) but the song is great. Seems it was written by some Swedish song writers who were paid a miserable $9000 for the song. The girls are being influenced by the song producer to leave their company. The reports coming from Dispatch point to the CEO being the victim and Dispatch is usually accurate. Very sad. Their careers are basically over as they're perceived as disloyal and greedy. Asian audiences are quite unforgiving about these things.

[@Belle_vie]

I can’t believe how dense kpop fans are to think fifty fifty is the victim and the ceo is the perpetrator. Even after the dispatch records clearly reveals how the members lied and the excessive money the CEO lost and ways he’s provided for them and invested so much on them. There’s a reason why all the knetz are shocked and angry at fifty fifty and feel sympathy for the ceo. What, cuz knetz are jealous of fifty fifty? Except most people didn’t even know about them until this issue. Kpop fans are so removed from Korean culture, actual contexts, actual messages and make up their own theories because their idols can never do anything wrong…. Sigh. Critical thinking is lost. Like there’s literally VOICE RECORDINGS that exposed them and yet people still want to argue they’re the victims. It’s bizarre. Knetz usually side with idols not the company… like with loona or seungi case. There’s a reason why people are so shocked and defending the ceo

[@puerbao]

This phenomenon is particularly prevalent within western Kpop communities, where many people prioritize idolizing over seeking the truth.

[@BlinkloveForever-ev3co]

I'm glad they finally disbanded

[@varunkandhari4819]

Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.

[@dshyon]

@@varunkandhari4819 You sound stupid because he basically took the entire blame for that AND left to make his own agency so he could actually do his own thing and prevent such issues from happening again. Not only that, he's had a girl group, The Lush, and they're on record saying that he's the nicest man ever who treated them with respect and ALWAYS made sure to pay them even though he was losing money. If he was an asshole, a member wouldn't have came out yesterday to say all of this and that she had to personally call the CEO to make sure he wasn't having suicidal thoughts through this controversy. You ain't even Korean talking like you know what's going on in the news or what the Koreans actually know and think.

[@SuchaMinitra]

@@varunkandhari4819Please not read the *FALSE* news which no one cares

[@m_c_y2493]

Their own greed ended their career. Sorry for the CEO who invested $6 millions in them…

[@JustinCBesin]

The girls asked for financial transparancy yet their the one being accused of being greedy

[@stephenhi9569]

@@JustinCBesin They claim that they didn't get paid, but earnings come in months later because different platforms pay at later dates. It's all a ruse to paint themselves as victims. I usually don't defend kpop companies but in this particular case it seems like the outsourced producer and the girls really backstabbed the company and CEO who gave them all the support they could.

[@ultraviolet8924]

@@stephenhi9569 왜 그렇게 많은 사람들이 누가 옳고 누가 그른지에 대해 그렇게 확신합니까?

[@stephenhi9569]

@@ultraviolet8924 People have already made a timeline of all the events leading up to this incident.(Feb~June) It's not looking good for the girls and the producer right now. I guess people can wait until all the court results are out, but there's so much evidence that points to tampering right now.

[@soulare]

I just feel sorry for these small companies. They can't win. It's all about money and fame at the end of the day.

[@Michael-tj5bk]

Exactly. You get popular and people try and poach your talent

[@maarshiexcryxx]

Yoo girls literally betrayed the ceo🤡🤡

[@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan]

Their success was one of the very few organic unexpected success for me , a group not from a well known company, not a very expensive budget nor promotions yet they went so far, like I had hope for more quality groups with actual music after them now...... This

[@yomarysanchez6263]

It wasn’t organic…. It was payola. The song went viral not the group. Locals are not interested in them as a whole.

[@ttigrasluvr]

​@@yomarysanchez6263Do you know what Payola is? And you're speaking English so you're clearly a local as well.

[@tj.8924]

@@yomarysanchez6263you and the people liking your comment don’t know the definition of Payola. Just using buzzwords you hear from other people. Like how is that instance payola? Omg kpop stans lack literacy

[@jhm2732]

@@yomarysanchez6263 going viral is literally one of the most ORGANIC way to succeed, unlike other groups who become successful because of the company they are in. You can do all the payola you want but for the song to go viral like it did, it was truly the public liking the song, there are many songs that get popular on tiktok but that doesn't make them hits, however Cupid charted really well on international charts

[@safz15]

Organic wow😅😅

[@shyun_2102]

I’m so confused why so many people are feeling bad for the girls…Honestly they selected their fate and could even say they betrayed the CEO’s hard work…

[@MagicalArtist7]

Plus, they lied about the company over working them. They literally did NOTHING! One member got sick yet all of them rested for weeks! they did nothing to promote the group XD

[@varunkandhari4819]

Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.

[@bloooooooo0o]

⁠@@varunkandhari4819this is totally false that CEO was the ONLY person that protect Lee Jihye from bully of sharp case.

[@dusknight1949]

@@bloooooooo0o you should be ashamed genuinely.

[@tglim8776]

​@@varunkandhari4819what news tell you the ceo committed crime he is one of well respected businessmen in Korea. Are u watching north korean news?

[@LOL-ho4rt]

So... you will not fully understand this situation if you dont know how kpop scene works. Unlike U.S. or other countries, Agencies in korea is more than just agencies. They usually do the audition for young talented but untrained students with little to no career. And the companies invest fortunes to train them to be successful and to fully discover their talent. They have a team of producers, coaches for dancing, singing, and even for 2nd language to get fans from abroad. The train goes more than a year and all the expenses are paid from the Company. Usually, the company also pays for their living for a sound training period. After the debut, even larger investmemt is required. Not only the marketing, All the songs, dances, video, outfit, hair and make ups are finely curated. The whole schedule arrangements for their tv appearances and the concerts are not free as well. The artist is not paying for anything. In return, the artist gets paid little until the company acquires a large portion of their investment back. It can take 2 to even 4 years depends on the total amount of investment and the success of the band. This is when the artist and the agency having trouble. The artists get tired of their busy schedule after years and they start to question if the company is treating or paying them right. In most cases, it is the greedy company exploiting the artist under Contract even after the company collected way more than enough. However, it is a lot different from the most cases, the agency is literally a small business in the scene and the ceo spent all hes fortune before Fifty Fiftys success. Not to mention FF's 1st album was a total fail businesswise. it's only been months since the song Cupid went viral. The company hasnt made any money back yet. This is when the CEO found out that the head producer (more like a contractor) scammed him a big time. The scammer tried to sell FF to WB behind the CEOs back. But theres a catch, the producer doesnt have any rights in FF. So what the scammer has done is to convince the members to sue the company to end their contract so they can be free. Also, the scammer only listed his name in registering the Song Cupid when the actual person who paid for the production of the song was the CEO. If FF leaves as they planned, the CEO gets little to no money back from his investment. Korean fans are mad because it is not respectful how FF is trying to leave a few months after their first hit, disregarding all the financial support.

[@LOL-ho4rt]

So, in a few words, Kpop bands are more likely seen as trained performers without any of their own asset at least for the first few years. I highly admire their efforts to shine one day, but the theres a lot of financial investment from those agencies in making a not yet ready student into an actual artist or performer.

[@ultraviolet8924]

@@LOL-ho4rt 나는 hunnie. 이런 종류의 댓글에 대해 얼마나 감사한지 말로 다 표현할 수 없습니다 감사합니다

[@b2thegoodness]

This is the very first comment that completely understands the whole situation and kpop industry. Are you korean?

[@LOL-ho4rt]

​@b2thegoodness I live in California, but I was born and raised in Korea. I am familiar with both Korean and American culture. I was never a biggest fan of a specific Kpop band, but I do follow what's out and what's going on in the scene. And I'm proud of my fellow Korean boys/girls getting famous worldwide.

[@b2thegoodness]

​@@LOL-ho4rtI can tell you feel the 정서 of Korea.

[@MagicalArtist7]

I can't with these people XD Fifty fifty brought these upon themselves. Because of their massive success, they got greedy and betrayed their own agency. They are now suffering the consequences of their own actions.

[@이형선-i9h]

The boss of the agency raised them with sincerity, but they are bad girls who betray them.

[@JustinCBesin]

Bitvh the ceo betrayed them. You think they would continue with their private info veing leaked by a clout chasing liar? You ate the story about selling his car up like a five course meal menwhile he was actually a multimillionaire

[@elmoandmochi]

They were so ungrateful brats.

[@JustinCBesin]

@@elmoandmochi the issue isnt about being ungratefulness or greediness. Its much more deeper. It involves financial transparency, and tax evasions and past companies. Its hard to explain. Basically the ceo was the ceo of a past company that managed hotshot. Where you guessed it, they didnt get paid and basically mismanaged. This could happen to fifi but we are still unsure. So its better to stay nuetral for now. Some netizens even realized how suspicious the company is

[@jakafe1188]

I feel sorry for Attrakt. I hope they win the legal battle

[@Michael-tj5bk]

Finally people understand what is going on

[@ladymoon7327]

Same. This is the first time I'm feeling bad for a company

[@Squintel7]

ATTRAKT literally self sabotaged their company on the last day of may by divorcing Fifty Fifty and The Givers and taking reigns over the groups music direction/production for which they had ZERO experience. They were going to kill all momentum the group had so they filed a lawsuit. You clearly don't understand the situation.

[@chihayaayase1299]

Am I stupid? I don’t get the situation 😵‍💫 What was the problem again? Why are they suing the company?

[@Trajjectorxyz]

​@@chihayaayase1299financial transparency issues and revealing Aran's health

[@wHiPpEdFoRJeOnJuNgKoOk]

Fifty fifty have had the greatest success with their international hit, they deserve the best management for their careers which are flourishing right now and should continue so. Good luck girls! 💖

[@KpopNiDontStop]

Right I believe they are far to popular to just go down people are gonna wanna see them tour for years to come.

[@shade599]

They are gold diggers

[@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans]

What part of "flop" that you don't understand? Shush

[@vixxexo6855]

They are greedy gold diggers. If they were prettier they would have married rich old men by now. But no rich old men want them cause of their ogre faces. Also they betrayed the company that sold their valuable items just for those greedy gold diggers.

[@doomsday4004]

they brought this to themselves. they deserve whatever is coming at them.

[@MagicalArtist7]

True, can't believe thousands of people are attacking the victim of this incident XD

[@varunkandhari4819]

Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.

[@Rayhgkim]

lol. They brought this to themselves? Hahahahahaha. You don’t know anything about Kpop. CEO did everything for that.

[@Rayhgkim]

@@varunkandhari4819 fake

[@MagicalArtist7]

@@varunkandhari4819 That's fake news and that still doesn't change the fact that fifty fifty members betrayed the ceo and lied.

[@KeltaHeroe]

I actually feel bad for the CEO at this instance.

[@mniscient_51]

Same it’s really sad

[@cesyau]

@@456rep Did you not watch the video?

[@clawcross]

Only Koreans think that way

[@Niki_thebear]

​@@456repwell the CEO sold his house and car to make Fifty fifty so I think that's enough that you could do to some 'persons' who are not your relatives or anything but random that you are selling your house and car for.

[@nv1180]

​@Kpop_959 but wasn't it proved to be fake news?

[@sally3969]

Honestly, Fifty Fifty is what they are because of the viral song "Cupid". It's too soon to say whether they are that talented because if there is anything the highly competitive korean pop scene does not lack, it's talent and hard work . Even BTS proved themselves through numerous tracks. Stakeholders are getting greedy too soon and making a huge mess.

[@DonLee1980]

the auto tune both in their studio and "live" recordings is so strong, you might as well use AI singers to replace them and the song would probably sound better. They have almost no talent, and they don't even look pretty.

[@yugimotta]

I mean, their discography so far did show their potential as artists. Their vocals are really good and they had an unique timbre that could have given them a distinctive sound. Yes, a lot of work was needed to keep their momentum going but by this point it's all meaningless. They're pretty much done now

[@testerfox6998]

Wow.. these girls are so ungrateful 💀 loyalty goes a long way and glad to say I wasnt a stan in the first place. Talk about a one-hit wonder

[@noceur_jollux]

I see many international fans supporting backstabbing. Hope they get backstabbed and lose everything they worked for.

[@hinakong]

There was a poor father (CEO) with four children (fifty fifty). He had to work full time to make money and support his children, so he hired a nanny (Outsourced Producer). He provided the nanny with a shelter and paid good money to cook for his children and help them with school. The four children studied hard, graudated good schools and got high paying jobs. This nanny now feels like she deserves all their success and the money they make, and wants to make them her own children. The nanny convinced the girls to cut a tie with their estranged dad and become her own daughters. The girls agreed. The father who dearly loved the children, trusted the nanny, worked hard 24/7 to pay for the nanny, tuitions, foods and shelter, literally spent and devoted everything for their success now left with nothing but extreme devastation and depression. If one says that is part of the business and acceptable in law, I have no further comment. But is that right morally?? I feel so sorry for the CEO. Cant imagine what he is going through.

[@ultraviolet8924]

주의 깊게 읽으면 CEO가 미디어 플레이를 하고 사람들이 550을 파괴하도록 하려고 노력하고 있습니다. 또한 소녀들은 지불을 요구하지 않고 돈이 정확히 어디로 가는지 묻고 있습니다.

[@b2thegoodness]

Can't agree more!

[@b2thegoodness]

​@@ultraviolet8924야이ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 한국인인척 하면서 장난질하지마라 손모가지 날아가붕게 그짓부렁지껄이면 오함마 가져올텡께 딱 대라 반반이 팬이든뭐든 내알바아닌데 한국인인척 번역기돌려가며 그러는거 와그라는건디? 진짜 맷돌손잡이 없네

[@internationalmusicacademy2895]

!!!!

[@silentbird2705]

FAKE COMMENT! I’m jk 😅

[@nikoleliangxuannijwps4215]

I feel so bad for Fifty Fifty with all the controversy. They deserve better. Love Fifty Fifty!

[@milkyyeri]

Can u explain what has happened?

[@Nexav_MLCY]

​@@milkyyeriattrakt exposed Aran personal life without Fifty Fifty permission and etc

[@MasterBaiT-kb2xw]

​@@Nexav_MLCYlol that is just a excuse to file a lawsuit. They just got greedy and want to go to a richer company

[@Nexav_MLCY]

@@MasterBaiT-kb2xw lmao

[@luvlydaytoday]

@@MasterBaiT-kb2xwfr 💀

[@imgonnabeastar1362]

Actually, I was afraid FIFTY FIFTY would become a one-hit-wonder, since their talent is beyond good. Yet success isn't always by hand with talent and potential. It become a lot worse. I only hope the best for the members and their music.

[@lullets5083]

@@HipHopLucky7 they have amazing vocals what are you on about???

[@izzme5204]

​@@HipHopLucky7can't sing? Please listen to their Mr removed cuz you're just being salty rn😂

[@Squintel7]

​@@HipHopLucky7aran and sio are some of the best vocalists alive rn. Change my mind.

[@hariet6756]

​@@Squintel7you haven't heard a lot of good live singing then lmao

[@haruki_kouki]

​@@hariet6756no fr aran alone has one of a unique voices in kpop her caliber is similar to the voice of old singers like karen carpenter

[@JKeliseKim]

It is quite interesting to see the huge contrast in public opinion between Korean fans and international fans. I’d like to give some context based on press release in Korea. The producer of “cupid”(a.k.a SIAHN), who was outsourced by the management company (Attrakt), attempted signing contract with WMK (Warner Music Korea) basically selling the group in exchange for 15M$. This attempt was revealed through the phone recording which the CEO of Attrakt has disclosed to the press today. The CEO had no clue of such attempt until he got the call from the executive of WMK. Public opinion in Korea is gradually going against Fifty fifty and becoming more favorable to the CEO, which is very unusual in legal conflict between the artist & the label. This is because the members are viewed as betrayers who tried to ditch the CEO who funded & provided the group despite his financial difficulties and follow the producer by demanding to terminate their exclusive contract with Attrakt. It is also shown in some of past videos where members call the producer as “daepyonim(대표님)“, which translates to CEO. People say the sudden fame and fortune has blinded the member‘s judgement and now they are destroying their own reputation by throwing themselves into this controversial dispute. Some even say that “it‘s like the goose who laid golden eggs is cutting his own stomach open”. “I never thought I’d support the label in such conflict but I feel sorry for the CEO. He put all of his effort to make the group successful and now he got stabbed in the back.”

[@lovetsumugi.a]

International fans are autistic 😅

[@빈나-s7e]

국내와 해외는 항상 대비되며 주로 암것도 모르는 외국인들이 언론에 속아서 한국을 비난한다.

[@4viewing]

We are pleading international fans to be true supporters of kpop by boycotting an unethical, ungrateful group and showing support for the hidden laborers behind a wonderful kpop song; the label and the workers in the agency who all have put in a lot of time and effort to make these girls famous and are facing a dirty lawsuit instead. It’s not fair nor is it right.

[@varunkandhari4819]

Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.

[@JKeliseKim]

@@varunkandhari4819 actually he was the one who sided with the one who got bullied. Get your facts checked.

[@Jwa123]

I feel so bad for the ceo. The girls literally betrayed him 😡

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Don’t be. Unfortunately I hear that the ceo lied so we would be on his side Edit: nvm

[@sunglee3935]

What did he lie? He has recordings of phone calls and the producer stole the Cupid song that was paid for with company money. You believe that kind of person? He and the girls were planning to leave and they filed for the rights to the group name in advance.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@sunglee3935 tbh I feel like both of them lied about something

[@MagicalArtist7]

@@gwenmloveskpopandmore There are lots of evidence that the CEO was right. Stop defending these ungrateful girls.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@MagicalArtist7 yeah but I heard he lied just so we would trust him. He also used to manage the BG hotshot under star crew which were abused And mistreated

[@MookyeongKim]

This is the most humiliate history caused by idol. They betrayed company...the company CEO even selled part of his property to make this group famous...now I'm literely disappointed at them. They made K-POP fans disappointed.

[@SungheeLee-t2g]

You guys have to feel bad for poor ceo, not members….

[@flaggov6949]

No, if he's not being transparent about their finances, pushing them to work when sick, and disclosing private health information without permission, I feel bad for them not the CEO.

[@ladymoon7327]

@@flaggov6949 literally none of this is confirmed and is honestly very unlikely

[@bes4377]

@@flaggov6949 so dumb.

[@HanniPham_NewJeans]

??????????????

[@flaggov6949]

@@ladymoon7327 The attorneys knew this would be a high visibility case. I doubt they would take it without clear evidence of contract violations because losing could damage their reputation.

[@klooku]

This is what happens when a group becomes successful in a short period of time, there's always going to be issues as such.

[@EstiloCK]

It is them that fucked up bad, yall shouldnt feel sorry for them. Exact example of being greedy without knowing where they stand

[@Squintel7]

Nope, wrong. ATTRAKT attempted to separate Fifty Fifty's directive and production company away from them and handle everything themselves- for which ATTRAKT as a whole has ZERO experience. Fifty Fifty even sat with the decision for 3 weeks to see where it went, and likely only after seeing what direction ATTRAKT was taking the group in did they file a lawsuit to suspend their contract due to ATTRAKT basically self sabotaging their own company AND Fifty Fifty for no reason. THAT'S why this whole mess started. They didn't file a lawsuit because their double-crossing back stabbers and opportunists, they were simply forced to alter the way they make and produce music and work with totally different teams and they didn't want that and likely saw a future full of failure ahead and wanted out... Who would blame them? It isn't like ATTRAKT made them, The Givers did, they did EVERYTHING- literally, from start to finish. If ATTRAKT simply kept acting like a glorified investor they could've reaped the benefits of Fifty Fifty and The Givers success but they got greedy. Not Fifty Fifty.

[@apec3504]

Can you guys take all the risks of investing? No matter how bad the Korean celebrity business is, this incident seems to be the fault of the members.

[@noah_8349]

I just love how overseas fans protects their idol no matter how many efficience were shown 😂 like they could literally find false information to argue you instead of just accepting the fact that the idol have done horrible things 🙄🙄

[@winxclubflora8446]

I am international fan of fifty fifty BUT now am totally against these greedy girls. Those who support them are mindless or selfish narcissist. I am on company side

[@jueunmusic]

the korean public is really hating on the girls and their parents and siding with the CEO

[@Monolith-xx6co]

Dear foreign fans, 55th Fifty is no longer active. Fans, before singing well, singers must have character. Do you think Fifty did a good job by filing a contract termination lawsuit against the CEO who invested everything for them? Korean fans are very angry, and the atmosphere of public opinion regarding Fifty is also very bad. It seems that it is impossible for them to be active in Korea. Thank you for loving Fifty all this time. Next time, I will visit you with new fifty members in season 2, so don't be sad. Thank you for waiting until then

[@Asdfghjklzxc564]

The CEO even borrowed ~$90,000 from his 90 year old mother's entire savings to invest in the girls. He put them in 3 bed 2 washroom apartment which is super luxurious for a newly debut kpop group who failed the first album, even for the Big 3 companies😢

[@lana_354]

Stop I feel so bad for the ceo🥲

[@senoalamsyah7481]

Yep 2,7M Won in Gangnam apartment/month. That's a lot of money.

[@Coreanze]

나는 영어를 잘 하지못해서 이 영상이 무엇을 설명하고 있는지 잘 모르지만 댓글의 반응을 보자면 아마도 fifty fifty멤버 그녀들에게 유리한 입장을 설명하고 있다고 생각합니다. 하지만 진실은 많이 다릅니다. 전재산을 투자한 소속사 대표를 그녀들과 부모님들이 배신 했습니다. 그녀들은 아직 돈 얘기를 할때가 아닙니다. 데뷔한지 7개월 밖에 되지 않았고 1집 앨범은 망했습니다. 2집 앨범이 글로벌 유행을 했지만 아직 뚜렷한 행사를 하지 않았습니다. 소속사 대표가 80억을 투자 했지만 아직 회수하지도 못했습니다. 이런 상황에 그녀들에게 나눠줄 돈도 아직 벌지 못했습니다. 정산금 얘기는 그녀들의 핑계중 하나일 뿐 입니다.

[@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan]

Shocked isn't even enough, I never expected this to come at all. They had a brilliant future waiting for them so sad to hear this

[@Squintel7]

Yeah, many people (including myself) was thinking of them as the new BTS. They have that incredible talent, charisma and class that can easily build a very loyal and stable fanbase, add to that their international success and possible Grammy nomination and you have an incredible success story. But than this happened... What an ABSOLUTE shame. Honestly, I am utterly shocked. I'll never give up hope of then being able to come back from this but it won't be easy. I hope they can make it through this.

[@ClakyNotReversed]

​@pruitv3I've seen you many times and I don't get why do you attack random people, accusing them of being all these different creators at once

[@amylyparker6143]

@@Squintel7 wtf is this "new bts"💀

[@MasterBaiT-kb2xw]

Its their desition to file a lawsuit because they became greedy. They got offer from a big company thats why they backstab the small agency who make them who they are now. They deserve the downfall

[@Squintel7]

@@MasterBaiT-kb2xw Attrakt tried to tyrade over the group starting from the 31st of may for no discernable reason by suspending Givers from producing Fifty Fifty's music, even though it was the Givers that got them to where they are by having such an integral understanding of the group creatively. Another case of a company not knowing what it is doing and throwing its weight around. Sure enough 2 in a half weeks later Fifty Fifty likely saw the sinking ship and probably saw how ATTRAKT were going to run their group into the ground with confusing concepts or comebacks etc due to having no idea how to manage them without help from the Givers so they are trying to leave. Why should they be forced to stay with a company that is clearly not managing them correctly? This story repeats of a million times of a group becoming popular and than being screwed over by their company that makes a stupid decision and than they lose all momentum. I 100% stand with Fifty Fifty here, their group owes all of their success to the Givers and they know it. Attrakt would've never had this problem had it not interfered with their production over Fifty Fifty, oh well.

[@kimalida]

They are going to be a one hit wonder i can feel it and it’s so sad considering their skills and potential

[@anaana4706]

More then half of the streams and views are for the song and not the group itself!! A lot of people like the song but don’t care about the group,they’re not solid fans!! When the hype of Cupid will die completely they will most probably go back to nugu!!people go with the hype,with what it’s trending then move on to the next thing!!!that’s why tik tok fame it’s not really fame,,it’s very temporary!!!

[@susbrains]

​@anaana4706 That is why Tiktok nickname is short form entertainment. They don't last long, especially in this modern, hyperactive new generation.

[@HanniPham_NewJeans]

I mean, they can sing, to be fair. Just need better management

[@thejmnocturnal]

Another Momoland 2.0

[@UpInYourGrills]

You feel sorry for the girls? The CEO had to make the greatest financial and lifestyle sacrifices just to give these girls a shot 😅 had to sell his car and eat ramyun?

[@HanniPham_NewJeans]

Fake sob story. That guy ady confessed to paying MILLIONS of dollars just to push that one song. Like, wtf did he sell, a Bugatti? 😂

[@marambattikh6510]

It's so sad that they have broken records and entered the hearts of everyone only to just to know that they're falling behind😢I feel so bad for the girls

[@evap.5121]

you get it 😢

[@joohlee7702]

they brought it all to themselves. It is so unfortunate. They should never have listened to those who promised more money. They made a greedy choice rather than a moral choice and now they will suffer... not only them but also smaller companies will have a harder time investing their money in the next K-pop group or get loans from banks and the entire industry will suffer. The court, therefore, has to give legal victory to the girl's agent otherwise the mistrust of smaller companies will grow, and less opportunity for K-pop industry.

[@edwardtimothy3581]

WHY THE FUCK U FEEL BAD FOR THEM? U DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AREN'T U?😂😂

[@edwardtimothy3581]

​@@joohlee7702FR

[@soulare]

The girls and the producer got greedy. Basically, they're over after blindsiding their original company.

[@lindsvy]

i feel so bad for the ceo

[@jelficloud4635]

Sudden fame can destroy you..

[@evtosmentos]

The fact that Cupid played in bulgarian tv and radio just tells how popular it was

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Yeah many people who don’t know what Kpop is know the English version of Cupid

[@justmee7771]

Pffft that's nothing. It was because the song was popular not the group at all. After Cupid got more and more boring they fell off like nothing happened. Especially because the CEO himself confirmed he put 8 billion Won to make the song viral on TikTok. Maybe if that wouldn't happen even Cupid wouldn't be that popular, who knows.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@justmee7771 yeah exactly

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@justmee7771 yeah but also turns out the members are greedy and betrayed the ceo

[@justmee7771]

@@gwenmloveskpopandmore yes I know that

[@mxx_ar]

people feel so bad for the girls that they overlooked all the sacrifices the CEO made....

[@소나기리]

The Givers has been criminally charged for destroying electronic records, and since Attract has the recovered e-mail and messenger as evidence, it is highly likely that the Givers employees will go to prison. The problem is that if there is member-related content in the recovered e-mail or messenger, the members may also be punished as accomplices in obstruction of business.

[@isyun7511]

It's over for them

[@johnlewisnoche6278]

I hope the CEO win the lawsuit

[@jenaya-z5j]

Foreigners writing comments are covering up Fifty even though they didn't even look for Korean articles properly I am Korean and I will explain this case in detail Fifi's claim is that the agency didn't pay for the settlement, and that the agency made him do an unreasonable schedule, In fact, they haven't been active since May, when Fifty operated on, and they haven't had the money to settle because they've been in their seventh month since their debut. And when Fifi applied for an injunction to cancel the contract to the agency's representative, it secretly trademarked it in the name of Fifi. Evidence has emerged that another company is trying to take a member of Fifi, and Fifi betrayed the head of the agency and hurt him. The current situation is that the court is reviewing Fifi's application for an injunction to suspend the contract with the agency's representative, and all Koreans want the agency's representative to win. Fifty is young, but they did something they shouldn't have done. Other idol trainees live in a small room and participate in countless performances to promote their names. But Fifty didn't do any events where he could make money while living in abundance. And yet you ask the CEO for money. I really don't understand. People who swear that the agency's CEO is bad know the truth and say it. The evidence is gathering and the head of the agency will definitely win. I don't want an idol like this to come out into the world again +Oh, for your information, the reason why Fiftty doesn't get paid unlike new jeans is because Fifi is a small business. Newjeans was a hybe agency from the start of their activities, so they received a lot of advertisements, but Fifty didn't have that. Nevertheless, 50 was able to succeed because of the CEO's efforts, and they betrayed it

[@kiaa1229]

get streamed a lot didn't gave the agencies that much money, only gave the popularity.. the reason why twice can build a fancy building for jyp entertainment simply not bcs how many stream their song get in yt or other platform, but bcs of how many sales they get.. economically speaking, physical album are the key of their success, along with merchandise, concert, and endorsement.. Fifty2 think their company already received a TON of money as soon as their plagiarized song get popular, oh no, it's not that easy ROFL

[@nicklai7081]

I feel really bad for the company and the CEO.

[@justarandompotato5206]

I may be wrong but this is what I can gather about the issue. Basically the producer (SHIAN) was outsourced by Attrakt for the song 'Cupid'. Because of its huge success, with the help of WMK (Warner Music Korea), the producer tried to sell the rights to the group to WMK behind the CEO's back. The CEO only discovered this once WMK contacted Attrakt about the exchange. This sparked a legal battle as the contract the producer was trying to make happen was illegal. So in response, the FIFTY FIFTY members sued Attrakt demanding to terminate their exclusive contract with the company. I suspect that the members were influenced by the producer and the success of 'Cupid'. The members caught a glimpse of the fame that they could have and were pushed to their decision with the promise of more of it by the producer and WMK. And this is despite the fact that the CEO of Attrakt, sacrificed so much to get the girls this far: Sold his 10-year worn Rolex, sold his car, and much more to finance FIFTY FIFTY's activities. It is hard to confirm if the girls were being abused by their company or not, but from what has been happening so far, it seems as though the CEO is likely innocent. There were bad decisions from all parties: the CEO was public about these issues (although I believe that this is justified as this would aid in his legal case because he is just a small company fighting against much larger companies), the producer making the shady deal, WMK for following through with the deal without formerly contacting Attrakt and the FIFTY FIFTY members going against their company which did not help their reputation/sabotaging them. I think that sealed their fate. The legal battle was already damaging to their reputation so their making that decision may not mean them getting the success they were promised by the producer and WMK. The thing is in K-pop, hardship is expected. So if they did stick it through with Attrakt they may be able to reach higher levels of fame. Look at groups like BTS, Seventeen, and EXO for example. It's always hard in the beginning so them making that decision was rash instead of being patient. However, it's still hard to tell which way this will go. The group may still reach higher levels of fame despite all of this, but if you look at the general trends in the K-pop industry, it will be a massive success for a while then the hype will die down instead of lasting fame. Though that is just a prediction. Interpret this however you like. If anyone would like to add information or argue with this then go ahead. I don't know all the details so I need different perspectives to make an informed decision about which side is (more) in the wrong.

[@stelleldir]

Why is no one talking about the huge money amount the ceo spent in making the song viral on TikTok? I'm talking about about over 6 million dollars so the sob story of him selling his car is laughable.

[@pretzel6740]

Whoever is pitying fifty fifty y'all need to look at the CEO of Attrakt, poor man put his whole life earning to get nothing .....the girls are young learnt english, vocal training, dance and skills and recognisation from poor man's money and back stabbed him for their greed ...........dont even try to victimize them

[@소나기리]

HYBE, SM, YG, and JYP officials are also outraged by this incident, and lyricists, composers, and producers are the same. This is the first time in the history of kpop that the representative of the agency is supported unilaterally and singers is unilaterally criticized. That's proof that what they did was shameless and wicked.

[@winxclubflora8446]

Same i am international fan and i am on ceo and company side.these girls are greedy

[@johnkeen37]

Fifty Fifty members betrayed the good one who sacrificed for them that's the facts even all songwriters against members rarely happens because company often trouble with songwriters

[@Lat-qy9nu]

I’m a hunnie and I’m so worried for the girls 😢 I’m scared that it actually might be the end for fifty fifty, all we can do is hope that they stay together I guess

[@clawcross]

They will leave asap and will operate outside of korea. The Koreans will whine but what can they do

[@evap.5121]

@@clawcross I hope so. But in Europe instead of USA

[@clawcross]

@@evap.5121 probably usa. .

[@clawcross]

@Stay123-xm5xc which the girls will ignore since they won't promote in korea ever again

[@Boingo1625]

Same

[@user-qkdgns]

It is sad to see young children lose their morality and become dominated by money.

[@orphenboy]

With all the new updates, these girls are snakes on a plane broooooooooooooo

[@girlsgenerationlittlemixbl7781]

Ungratefulness to the people who helped you reach success will eventually lead to your downfall.

[@호잇-d4r]

Thanks to the company's CEO's hard-earned fundraising, producers and girls can make music and sing songs. Does anyone know all the girls' names? Can anyone guarantee that the next song will be as successful as Cupid? Look at Psy. How many people know how he has been since Gangnam Style? Is there a guarantee that it won't be the girls' future? Isn't it successful because the company's CEO has the financial power and the ability to select the right people?

[@supraaznpride]

It benefits the CEO to raise the fame of status of the group name Fifty Fifty because he owns the group. That doesn't excuse him if he isn't treating the individual members fairly. So your logic is because thanks to the CEO the members have made a successful song that they should just shut up and take whatever is done to them. Maybe they chose personal integrity over fame.

[@lebronfanjones6840]

@@supraaznprideWho said he isn’t treating them fairly? Holy smokes the naivety of the fans astound me

[@supraaznpride]

@@lebronfanjones6840And who says that he was? The naivety of you corporate shills astound me. I even chose to phrase my wording as "if he isn't treating". If is the key word as in hypothetical. I was refuting the original claim that if a company makes a girl group popular that they should stay with them no matter what to continue success. My statement didn't claim who to be truthful in this manner, that's for the courts. Learn how to read and comprehend words you brainless donkey.

[@lebronfanjones6840]

@@supraaznpride think you speak from a lack of knowledge, due to the western media not covering the story with due diligence. Corporate shill my arse. Using such derogatory term shows your lack of character. I won’t waste my time

[@BELIEVER78989]

Where did Psy come from, he is already big and he recently got HUGE success with That That too, he's doing quite ok.

[@Seohyun7]

I was wondering why the girls made a dumb move but realized they all dropped out of school... no wonder

[@shinhyunah7776]

The girls should’ve respected their CEO cause he did everything for them no CEO will sell his own car and house to debut a gg but yet they sued him that’s so ridiculous

[@anuugoo]

The ceo and company literally made them who they are, i really hope those ungrateful girls get canceled and never perform again in their life!

[@lilacespy]

Lol this is a rare sight bec normally people would blame the company not the members and why y'all saying they are greedy-

[@소나기리]

This is an unprecedented incident in which even an advertising offer was avoided in order to minimize the penalty for breach of contract.

[@tamagomaniac]

one girl gets sick and the entire group takes a rest, I’ve NEVER see any other group doing this honestly. As rookie they live in luxurious dorm, taking language classes, taking rest… then they still complain company didn’t take care of their health enough!!

[@abouttime2569]

Yea most of the time, if one member gets sick, the rest of the group still do events as scheduled.

[@peer2313]

Fifty think that if Koreans do not accept them, other people abroad will listen to their songs. This is nonsense.

[@fennecmp-9306]

It's all about the conspiracy of the GIVER's CEO. He attempted to sold Fifty-fifty's copyright privately to Warner Music Korea without any acknowledgement of the CEO of Attrakt and then brainwash those girls to backstabbing their owner. It was GIVER mistreated fifty fifty. But still, those bitches still chose to side with GIVERS for their OWN better future. May fifty fifty and the CEO of the GIVERS rot beneath the very depth of the abyss also hope Attrakt can find a group of people with a better attitude to form a better idol bands with a brighter future.

[@minraea]

lots of peeps are on the side of the girls not knowing they are the ones who betrayed the CEO!

[@mact8190]

On the contrary, public opinion has actually shifted and the girls are now seen as greedy backstabbers.

[@syafiqaszamin6411]

It sounds like when a football player refused to play and training because the club refuses to sell them to a bigger club with bigger opportunity. I don't understand how ATTRAKT is the villains seems like he just taken advantage of understandable if he feels bitter and betrayed, if anything he's the victims of his own stupidity and Giver's sneaky underhand tactics. How the hell the company you hired as outsource owned your group's song copyright? Now you can't get any investment because you don't own anything. I understand if the girls want to go to Giver, they owned the songs, with that they secured collaboration with the video production company, a talent management agency, and distribution company and secured more investment. The girls just had to choose the winning side.

[@Skyfrenchfries]

It sounds like they wanted to be like NewJeans. NewJeans was the first rookie group that I've seen to get paid two month after debut. I feel sorry for the CEO I hope that he wins.

[@MJ18888]

Ah this is not good, they have one hit song and now they think they can pull this. If Warner wants this group, pay the CEO what he deserves! Also the group’s name may now be popular due to the song, the members are not. Ultimately they will not own the name, BEAST had to go with a new name when they left Cube.

[@jan_mykel]

Oh geez. I hope FIFTY FIFTY cannot be included in "ONE TIME HIT GROUP". FIFTY FIFTY HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. DREAMY CONCEPT VERY FIT THEM.

[@crystal-jade]

A successful group is not all about music but a good & supportive management too. Even the issue can be resolve between the member and ceo, the group's reputation is already tainted.

[@OleLeik]

The group is not, the members are. If the company is not completely broke due to the girl's antics it can relaunch the group with new members and surf on the groups name and the public goodwill thereof. As far as the girl's goes: It's over for them. Will probably be stuck in the company basement for years until their contracts expire while owning a small fortune in trainee and legal debts. Oh, well

[@abouttime2569]

The girls brought this on themselves due to greed

[@grow1820]

Knetz supporting the CEO in this case. Just go read thousands of comments in recent 5050 news. They want 5050 gone.

[@expatinthailand9824]

This is so sad. I loved the group and their music. They have destroyed their careers. They are considered over in Korea.

[@rosierubyjane]

I think after their success they want out from their small company, especially since some bigger companies are trying to recruit them so they’re trying to terminate their contracts through legal means.

[@소나기리]

They filed a lawsuit against the company less than a year after their debut to move to a bigger company. Why are their lawsuits so vicious? This is an incident that can adversely affect the kpop industry. If they win their lawsuit, it will be impossible for small and medium-sized agencies to raise idols in Korea.

[@iai-s3y]

First of all, using a translator may not be accurate. Fifty Fifty requested termination of the contract with the agency. The reason is to go to another company with a lot of money. They lied and sued the existing company.

[@bangtanbangtan8338]

what happens if the 5050 members lose the lawsuit?

[@cxstxyxs]

it's not even had its first court date yet you've just fabricated the fact that they lied, you're all so gullible

[@bangtanbangtan8338]

@@kookie-py damn

[@iai-s3y]

They said that one of the reasons for the lawsuit was that the company lost trust by disclosing the member's disease name to the media without consent. But this wasn't true and they lied. At the time they filed a lawsuit, the name of the member's illness was not disclosed. After the lawsuit, the name of the disease was disclosed, and this was also disclosed by a third party, not the company. I lied to get out of the company. First of all, it is an issue that has been clarified. The company president protected the members but was betrayed. If an investor withdraws their investment due to this controversy, the members will not be able to work. The public has turned their back on a matter that has already been betrayed.

[@Toxique_blink]

For the first time i ever felt sorry for a CEO

[@cardibqueenofslurs]

if we're being realistic they probably aren't gonna recover from this... right now they're more tiktok successful than kpop successful and with tiktok, one hit wonders are coming and going like nothing. fifty fifty could've kept up the momentum they had if everything was in their favor but it wasn't and once they get back on their feet again i don't think anyone outside of their fanbase is gonna keep up with them. i could be very wrong and they could have the biggest kpop comeback story in all of history but in MY opinion that's what i see happening.

[@Lty-xb3bc]

The person give them living place, food, dancing course, singing course, language course....for few years, and they are famous just few month, and they ask for money too.... i mean they should not be in kpop, they should go outside and looking for suga dad.

[@imangelinayoujennifer]

This case reminded me of yena, its the way their fans always blinded by their idols without actually knowledge their mistakes, its like idols cannot be held accountable

[@Rayhgkim]

The girls who became crazy about money and abandoned grace are over.

[@synvaVal]

A group that rise too quickly will fall really hard

[@hariet6756]

A lot of groups bg/gg don't get paid the first few years because they're still mainly paying their debt for debuting. This is unfortunate. They're most likely actually influenced by people outside their company. Sure they get streamed but that's not where the money will be coming from , it's going to be from ads, endorsements, doing concerts etc which the members aren't doing so... oh well.

[@supraaznpride]

That's not what the complaint was about. It was no transparency of financials. Even if the company didn't earn much from streaming, whether it was pennies or millions, if the members aren't clear on how much is coming it, that's money taken away from their debt repayment. Meaning they could be unfairly kept in debt by the company for even longer than they should've been.

[@retricallltann6243]

@@supraaznpridethat’s some loona bbc shit giving me ptsd rn

[@travelworld9813]

Thank you ❤️ to Korean people 🙏 for informing us foreigner K-pop fans. Foreigner press mostly blame the Attrakt management. And we foreigners don't know the working condition in the Kpop industry, about lack of salary when they start up, and what is expected of the artists. Cupid is played in most countries around the world, and make Kpop more popular worldwide. Let's hope artists and management can come to agreement. Keep us updated, please.

[@silentbird2705]

Where are you from? You wouldn’t happen to be Korean? That would be a shame if I knew exactly who you are…

[@layla5785]

i feel so bad for them like why are these people so messed up😭

[@marlboroblack1668]

Fifty-fifty is done for sure

[@helenasouza9196]

Honestly, as I always say two things can be true at the same time. Somehow kpop fans forget that and work under the assumption that it can only be one or the other. I do believe they were approached by a bigger agency because of their viral song, and yes, there's a possibility Attrakt may or may not be abusive towards them. Or maybe it's just one or the other (they can't go to court and tell the judge they got a better offer so they want to break contract they have to give what the court would consider a valid reason, such as... Abuse). It's not uncommon to work with light ~ moderate health issues, so how "sick" did all four of them actually got? Anyways, the only certain thing is that they are done for. Their parents are living in a bubble thinking their kids are superstars that'll now be succesful anywhere, their song went viral, it was dumb luck they don't have a career, I'm not even sure they are that popular in Korea and I wonder if americans would even recognize the members in the streets or know their names. I wish them luck, but being fr... Bad decisions through and through.

[@vybzalways5293]

The funy thing is that 50/50 as a group name and Cupid the song are extremely known than the members.their album still has less sales than the groups that debuted last week.they are doing extremely well with streaming but with only Cupid,no one knows the other songs on the album

[@Michael-tj5bk]

You are smart. That is exactly what happened.

[@not_in_the_mood]

idk why you guys are surprised that 5050 didn’t last long as if we haven’t already seen this same thing happen multiple times with other groups. a barely known group releases a song, it blows up on tiktok and becomes a hit doing well on the charts, the groups popularity skyrockets, people start claiming to be their fans yet can barely name all the members or any of their other songs (aka a token stan), the discourses and comparisons to other famous kpop groups begins to unfold, then about a month later the group’s popularity begins to steadily decrease and they begin to drop out of charts, then for a while everyone stops talking about them for a little bit and finds something else to gossip about, and then something controversial happens either with the group or their company leading to a disbandment or a lawsuit/legal action, leading to everyone all of a sudden caring about them again. i remember making a comment a few weeks ago saying that this exact thing was going to happen to 5050 because we’ve witnessed it happen to other groups before and i got so much hate for it just for me be right 🥴. it’s literally the same exact layout every single time just with a different group. their success wasn’t even organic in either so that should have been the first eye opener for y’all to figure out how this would play out. like the end result is so predictable it’s not even funny anymore. people need to understand that just because a groups makes one hit song, that doesn’t mean that the group has a permanent place in the industry or that they’re gonna keep their trending popularity forever.

[@Tea-K.]

Okay and? FIFTY FIFTY had done what no other group had ever done before, like in a completely unprecedented manner. Why would you predict a group's downfall when they haven't done anything? Sounds like you wanted them to fail from the beginning. FIFTY FIFTY isn't even likely to be done, as they have one the best law firms in South Korea representing them All they need is the GP support from pity (AKA proving Attrakt was abusing them) and Warner Records to continue promote them and they could just as easily comeback

[@supercoolcakes8952]

They've still been popular this entire time though. The song isn't high on the charts anymore but they haven't really lost any hype. Said hype was overshadowed by the recent events, and now ultimately this. Which is just greed. And I think this is not a common example for this type of popularity and the trajectory they had, if they could even follow up the song with something at least somewhat decent. Which is usually not the case. But having 1 hit song then being overworked, and then fueding with their agency in this amount of time. You are right about trending popularity though. It's just a simple matter of people getting bored with an artist. But there are plenty of artists who have one massive song, get a bunch of fans, and while not being able to keep the hype and success in at that level, still get a respectable amount of fans, or niche audience so they can always at least tour.

[@not_in_the_mood]

@@Tea-K. did you even read my comment? or at least try to comprehend what i said? because you’re here assuming that i wanted them to fail from the beginning when thats far from the case. i have nothing against those girls and am happy with how far they’ve managed to come in their careers, but i’m not going to sit here and act dense either. idk if you skipped over it or just purposely chose to ignore it, but i stated clear as day that what was going to happen to them was predictable because it’s LITERALLY happened to other groups before 😭. everything that i listed in my original comment, similar instances have happened to others almost to the tea and obviously as unfortunate as it is, 5050 fell victim to it too. unless you’re new to kpop then this should not be a new concept to us. we know how the industry works and we know how kpop stan’s move. tbh kpop stan’s are just as predicable (if not more) when it comes to these types of situations so the way it turned out is not surprising to me in the slightest. also i wasn’t necessarily focusing on what would happen with the lawsuit, i was more so stating the events that lead up to their rise and fall. but even if they do manage to win the lawsuit and do manage to make a comeback do you really think that the gp will be fully willing to support them? think about it, most of their success came from their song blowing up on tiktok. so if they make another song and it doesn’t match or exceed the hype that Cupid brought, then they’ll be kicked to the curb and will end up just being another one hit wonder. i know it sounds harsh but it’s the truth. this is why it’s better have a solid, loyal fanbase instead of relying on their gp to carry your career and 5050 just don’t have that kind of fanbase. at least not yet, but that could always change depending on what happens next.

[@Squintel7]

​@@not_in_the_moodexcept that Fifty Fifty has consistently released nothing but good music since their debut and make other idols of their generation look like ametures really. Their music is on a different level and they can actually SING. They have the talent, skill, class and charisma to upkeep and capitalize on their fame because they are consistently good. Their entire mini album "The Fifty" was a 10/10 in terms of concept execution, vocals, music direction and visuals. Lovin me would've have 500 million views if it was released by some overhyped american artist like miley cyrus or something. You keep trying to put them in a box lol, can you not hear nor see what I am seeing? No one else is doing it like they are, and to assert as much is an insult.

[@hariet6756]

​​@@Squintel7he fact of the matter is they got poached and well, good luck to them. A lot of token stans and hype but won't even actually buy their albums. Come back after 10 yrs and see if they're still active The insult on miley cyrus as if the woman isn't talented and gives out good music lmfaoo. Take note most western artist don't use ads and a lot of views on their mvs are actually organic.

[@nostalgia7465]

the success of a group from such a small company is one in a million odds, a bit sad that everyone involved has possibly blew the opportunity already.