The Scandalous Life of Lady Thelma Furness. The Woman Before Wallis Simpson.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thanks so much for your support. A couple of Notes, some people complain my videos are not edited professionally. I'm sorry for that, it's true. I edit them myself and I am learning, it is something I have never done before. I try and improve a bit with each video; as a historian; I hadn't ever thought I'd be editing videos. One day when our channel, (by our, I mean yours and mine) Has enough subscribers, I will hire someone to edit for me, in the mean time I will try to improve as I go. Thanks for understanding, and being patient. I know it can be frustrating. Trust me, it is frustrating for me as well. I want the videos, and pictures to do so many different things, and they simply won't obey. 😂 Also, remember to let me know who you would like to see in the videos, I keep a list of everyone you mention and will make them all one day. I especially like lesser know people which is why I chose to do Thelma over Say Wallis. That isn't to say I might never do a Wallis video, but we all know so much about her, I'd really want to create a new take if I were to create one. Tell her story in a new way. So let me know who you would like. Really, thanks, I never imagined we would get 10 thousand subscribers so fast on just biographies of people. Thanks for sharing my passion. ❤❤❤❤

[@kellicoffman8440]

@@MythicMindScape21 I truly enjoyed the Thelma story. Wallis is interesting but as you say we know a lot about her

[@therealhousewifeofballtown]

You did such a wonderful job presenting her life ! I’ve been waiting for this one and it was above and beyond what I could have ever expected. Thank you so much ❤

[@MythicMindScape21]

@@therealhousewifeofballtown Thank you so much, it was really interesting to do and read her story as well as those who interacted with her. Her story seemed sad to me, as she never really found love. But she always had her sister at least till near the end.

[@therealhousewifeofballtown]

@@MythicMindScape21 Thelma and her sister had such interesting lives . I’m thankful they always had each other . I can relate , my sister is my best friend and confidant . She always will have my back . Thank you again for all your hard work and effort that you put into this , I’ve watched it twice already .

[@MythicMindScape21]

@@therealhousewifeofballtown it was great to do. It is so sad they are portrayed as villains. I would love to do one on Laura Morgan. But that won't be for a while. Sisters are precious it is a shame Jackie and lee nor the Cushing sisters had the same sentiment as these two.

[@AquaBabe101]

Yay! Let me get myself ready and tuck myself into my bed to watch this master piece!🤗

[@MythicMindScape21]

Hope you liked it.

[@AquaBabe101]

Loved it, as always!👌🏽

[@delcielo183]

Great to see several photos and a video of them I hadn't seen before.

[@thelinguist3683]

Wow, she kept the bear all those years. Such a beautiful story. I love how you tell bring these stories to life with interesting facts I didn't know, and I thought I knew about her.

[@MythicMindScape21]

I found that she kept the bear all those years really touching as well.

[@malcolmmackay3952]

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[@jeannecyrus1613]

She and the prince exchanged bears! And Prince Andrew has a bed full of bears? Curiouser and curiouser. Thanks for the video!

[@carolholly1608]

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[@JJW77]

Good job on your research and narration.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you!

[@sharynkhan1104]

I absolutely love your videos 😍 Such a soothing voice and extremely interesting.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much!

[@leslielutz6140]

I love your videos too. They are extremely well done. Your dialogue is elegant and holds your attention. You have a lovely voice. Very lovely.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much. Writing the scripts is my favorite part.

[@andyroo9381]

Thank you for this. I have followed the story of Wallis and Edward for years now. I learned a lot from this video documentary. I didn't realize Thelma's sister was the mother of Gloria Vanderbilt! I never put the two together. I wonder if Wallis and Thelma ever communicated after the marriage to Edward?

[@MythicMindScape21]

It seems they did not. If they ever happened to be at overlapping social engagements they would simply make the barest of pleasantries. Edward also stopped communicating entirely with Freda Dudley Ward; though Wallis claims it was his own decision.

[@jenm6387]

I just made the connection that Thelma's sister was the mother of Gloria Vanderbilt through this video too!

[@linzisouthernwood482]

I used to wear Gloria Vanderbilt perfume when i was in high school. Everybody copied me and nearly every girl i knew had a bottle. It smelt beautiful. I might see if i can still get a bottle

[@MythicMindScape21]

Let me know if you can, it is interesting to know if it is still available anywhere.

[@linzisouthernwood482]

@MythicMindScape21 yes it is. On line or Boots Chemist. Its not expensive but smells really nice ❤️

[@MythicMindScape21]

Really? It is sold in Boots? Have you tried it recently?

[@linzisouthernwood482]

@MythicMindScape21 not recently but I'm going to get a bottle on-line, for nostalgic purposes, it's not expensive either, you can pick it up for about £7

[@margaretdownie4407]

I have a bottle of vanderbilt perfume, reminds me of when my mum wore it when I was a wee girl, in fact I have an event tonight so will be wearing it this evening. Love your channel, new subscriber 💜

[@afquan9211]

This is an excellent video and deserves much praise for all the effort and care you put into the research, writing, narration, and pacing. You showed so many aspects of Thelma's life, including her marriage to Lord Furness, and son Tony, that really flesh out her life. Thank you!

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much for such nice words.

[@ceegh5386]

A really decent, compact narrative of Thelma's life, and her support of her twin Gloria, mother to Little Gloria. Thelma is considered as a sort of footnote in British History for introducing Wallis Simpson to the future Edward VIII but she was substantially more than that...and it seems the psychologically stronger of the sisters. Without her I doubt if Gloria would have survived that dreadful custody battle for her daughter. She was an innovator.

[@Thefruitspeaks]

I'm thrilled this video popped into my suggestions. Beautiful narration, photos, and videos have earned you a new follower.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thanks so much; and welcome.

[@bronte333]

Fabulous as always. Packed with detail and elegantly told. Thank you.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much.

[@brigittebeltran6701]

Such is the life of the idle rich.

[@Ponchoman07]

Has anyone ever noticed how, "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife" is probably the most ignored commandment by male royals? Doesn’t seem to matter how much the rest of their country is pinned down by religion, royals have never been troubled by such a bothersome edict. I wonder do they regularly attend Sunday services, and if they do, is it only to pretend piety? I am not a religious person, but I certainly know right from wrong, and stealing another man’s wife falls into the category of seriously wrong. What does it say of human nature that power is such a magnet that apparently anyone will abandon their spouse to get close to it? On a side note, it certainly appears that Wallis did the free world a grand favor by sucking in the weak Edward VIII. He was such an admirer of Hitler that WWII might well have gone entirely differently.

[@brigittebeltran6701]

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[@tundrawomansays694]

@@Ponchoman07Oh my naive friend, you need to learn more about Greek and Roman history-and then British followed by American history because people have been people forever. I understand you don’t get it and that’s fine. These people did and plenty of people *currently* are doing the same thing. Piousness has nothing to do with Lust and Intrigue :- )

[@pinkpyjamas-ey6rw]

Lady Furness was well rid of her "little man" imo.

[@jenniferlane6720]

I agree. David was pathetic as a man…something was “off” with him. I will give him credit on the jewelry he had designed & made for Wallis. Too bad it wasn’t returned to the BRF.

[@zzzbbbooo]

So was the entire world...

[@izzy9132]

This is the finest biography I have ever watched whether on TV, in film or internet. The script narrator and compilation of scenes. The way you jutxtiposed the characters into footage of the day and age was brilliant and most accurately done. I was surprised knowing the Vanderbilt saga well but didn't realize it was that Thelma with Prince Edward. Thank you for this excellent bio a new subscriber.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you for such amazing words. I will be doing a video next week on the Prince's first love; Lady Rosemary, hope you will enjoy it.

[@andreainsley2928]

I really enjoyed your presentation. I think you’re doing a great job!

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you.

[@388Caroline]

Thank you 🙏

[@joymcguire]

I have been watching your videos over the last couple of days. I Love Them! Your voice is lovely and the videos are wonderful! Thank you for honoring these women!

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much!

[@joansavage1857]

Thank you, this was so interesting!!

[@MythicMindScape21]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@achord9204]

Wonderfully researched-thank you

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thanks so much.

[@TheFinalBoss316]

I was just watching another channel that did a video on the sister, and i have to say; your covering events is historically spot on. As usual I wrote the channel about their errors and got no response. They seem to just push out videos without fact checking. As a history buff I am so annoyed with the sensationalist channels, that just get the events wrong. i won't say the channel, as sometimes their videos are OK. But really I hope you continue in this style to prize the events and the true stories, as your videos right now are just wonderful from a factual perspective. Thanks and please keep it up, incredible to me that you have only 11 thousand subscribers, you are an undiscovered gem.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you for such an amazing comment and praise. I hope the future videos will continue to meet your expectations, as there are so many good channels on YT. Means a lot to hear that. ❤️

[@cindy-wo4qt]

Thank you for a fantastic video….so much I didn’t know about this lovely lady …I only knew her name in passing when watching videos about Wallis Simpson …..thanks again you really do a great job

[@MythicMindScape21]

You're very welcome. In future I will do one on Rosemary his first major girlfriend and perhaps the woman he should have married.

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

They were double pioneers❤❤

[@jovongoines7133]

Wow, beautiful and scandal story also she kept teddy bear 🧸 for long time ⌛️ ❤

[@catherinelee3298]

Great video! Thank you.

[@kacie1661]

Thank you, so much. I'm enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thanks for watching!

[@delcielo183]

I read the biographical book "Little Gloria Happy at Last" in the 1980's and their autobiography “Double Exposure” in the 2000's. Gloria Sr also wrote a book called “Without Prejudice”. All were good but the first one mentioned above probably the best.

[@kellicoffman8440]

If only the little Gloria case hadn’t happened walls couldn’t have taken care of the little man

[@thresagraham8181]

Fascinating 👍🌻

[@Gilbertolara-vj1vz]

Its nice to watch an article of the sisters, they were from another time..they had good times and enjoyed the party of life..but they had bad times too..more in their final years..

[@lynndamico1448]

Love your in-depth videos

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you. We have a 70 minute one coming up on Saturday. Maybe a little long )

[@Shineon83]

“Loved deeply?!?”….Puh-leez. Thelma Furness never “loved” the Prince of Wales-she loved the access he provided her, the glamour, and the, “Look-at-me-world, I-nabbed-a-Prince” belief system she had, which placed the superficial above the meaningful, and ensured that the rest of her life would be wasted in her quest for vanity…. Utterly selfish, with few redeeming qualities, Thelma Furness’s life is a cautionary tale for those who place greater value on the shallowest aspects of life-while jettisoning anything more meaningful ….

[@JenLev]

Why do you think that? Cause you watch scandal channels? Perhaps read the biographies of those involved instead of going 15 minute scandal videos and forming your opinions of people. What I like about this channel as they go deeper than the headlines and the click bait stuff . So where are you getting your information from? Personal opinion? Clickbait? I love this channel because it goes beyond that. I think most of here greatly appreciate the well researched subjects.

[@SuzetteGrist]

Read Dancing with the Devil by Christphee Wilson. Real eye opener!!

[@eileenbrazil8039]

Loving your channel ❤

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you so much!!

[@carolyndavison6095]

Wish the background piano music hadn’t been so loud. Very aggravating!!

[@jilltagmorris]

Oh goodie. Looking for something ❤🎉

[@bar10ml44]

Excellent. A background I was unaware of.

[@catherinenewman6516]

Even this video makes clear that she was not lady Thelma but Thelma lady furness

[@ursulacook9883]

Very interesting documentary! The lady shown with Lord Furness in most of the pictures ist not Thelma Furness, but his 3rd wife, though.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Yes, we have a documentary on her too. Enid Lindeman.

[@lisah7215]

Her name was pronounced “Telma”, in Spanish fashion.

[@AgnesC1111]

That's Ayds, basically flavored gelatin you drank with hot tea before dining.

[@MythicMindScape21]

Did they work? I tried so hard to find the old ads for them, but was unable.

[@sarahmott8876]

​@@MythicMindScape21 No they didn't, mainly because it was easy to eat the whole box at a sitting. Trust me, I know 😉🇦🇺♥️

[@MythicMindScape21]

@@sarahmott8876 😂😂

[@jmcd2955]

Thanks for catching that one! I remember the spelling was only one vowel off and the ads and commercials were everywhere!

[@jilltagmorris]

Rewatched. 😂❤

[@MythicMindScape21]

Very soon I will be doing a video on Edward's first love. Such a tragic story as well. Maybe even this Saturday. As I'd like to cover all three women that he was serious with before Wallis and then later Wallis if people are interested.

[@joymcguire]

What a storied life!

[@SuzetteGrist]

The story of Wallis Simpson, her marriages and marital triangle when married to Windsor with the Woollies' heir is even more interesting.........😮

[@MythicMindScape21]

I think about covering Wallis a lot, but so many videos on her have been done. But maybe in the future.

[@Gilbertolara-vj1vz]

I love this video,more for the pictures, sadly no mention of gloria affair whit the Marchionne of milfrod haven,that madera her a bad and inmoral person..giving chances for los the rights for her Child, nada and gloria have grand sons gays..nada lord ivar mounttbaten,gloria anderson Cooper,the life is so bizarre,o enjoyed the view of the sisters grave..

[@MythicMindScape21]

Glad for the comment, It is tough to fit everything in a twenty minute video. Hopefully one day when my channel becomes more popular I can make longer videos.

[@Wltelidon]

yeah your right i have lots of..............

[@angelawalker7582]

Everytime I see a documentary Howard Hughes' name pops up. How many people did this man slept with,lol

[@MythicMindScape21]

He certainly got around. Fun fact, when HH came to pick up little Gloria, Gloria Morgan actually thought he was calling around to see her.

[@anniedarkhorse6791]

Society bores.

[@jbee1686]

Did NOT know they were sisters, much less twins. Mind blown

[@Lisa-jm3nk]

If you haven’t done one on Mona Williams, that would be my suggestion

[@MythicMindScape21]

Thank you. I will add her to the list .

[@carolking6355]

Is that why Andrew, brother to the King has teddy bears on his bed ? Good video, thanks.

[@catherinenewman6516]

Where did this lady Thelma come from?

[@caribbeantigress78]

Lady Furness was the auntie granny of Anderson Cooper…

[@Ponchoman07]

Yeesss, and let’s not forget he’s a Vanderbilt, though it appears granny Gloria disposed of any fortune he might have inherited from his grandfather’s family. It definitely appears that Kill Cavalry’s granddaughters were mere goddiggers, making no contributions to the family’s wealth, but working hard to use it to advance their lifestyle and position in society. Seems that AC’s mother was the most respectable of his nearest ancestors that I’ve been able to read about. Granny, great granny, and two great great granddaddy’s all appear to have been seriously flawed.

[@fuchurZero]

Actually his great-aunt

[@MythicMindScape21]

He wrote an interesting though short book on the Vanderbilt's "Vanderbilt: The Rise and Fall of an American Dynasty". Definitely worth a read though it certainly is not an in depth analysis. 'The Rainbow comes and Goes" Is written with his mom, and is very heart felt.

[@ladyjessiecoyne2617]

Intriguing but the stupid annoying music spoiled it for me....c9uldnt finish it but looked her up and got a great vlog about her

[@MythicMindScape21]

Better to read her biography and form your own conclusions. 'Double Exposure' is great.

[@molliemae6855]

Actually, the Prince of Wales went by the name Bertie. He chose the name Edward when he became king.

[@MythicMindScape21]

I am not sure what you mean. Edward was the Prince of Wales, and his family called him David. Bertie was the Duke of York, and his name was Albert which was changed to George when he became king. I think you are confusing the brothers. 'Bertie' never had the title Prince of Wales, as he was not the first born, and only got his position when Edward abdicated.

[@jenm6387]

Mollie are you referring to Edward's grandfather, the Prince of Wales who was Queen Victoria's son? He went by the name Bertie and was Edward VII when he became king.

[@molliemae6855]

@@MythicMindScape21I’m an idiot!! I’m sorry…I did mix the brothers up, lol! And I thought I knew who was who!!! My apologies!

[@ninaelsbethgustavsen2131]

​@@molliemae6855 Ah well, you're not the only one mixing those Berties and Davids.... The British royals all have four first names. That said, the Danish kings are worse... In Denmark it's Christian or Frederik, every other time.... 🙄

[@robertandrews5640]

I WONDER IF ANDREW INHERITED ANY OF EDWARDS BEARS

[@BarbaraPineda-v9p]

Gloria Vanderbilts, mothers, of these women's, Gloria s... twins, sisters, thema, Morgan's, maiden, Vanderbilts, married too Vanderbilts, also both twins, sister's, lil Gloria &, Thelma passed longs times, ago,

[@herbertlongfellow7702]

Enjoyed that, but showing modern day footage re-enacting the burglar at Little Gloria's wedding totally ruined the mood. And the background music was annoying too! But apart from that....all good! 😅

[@MythicMindScape21]

I agree about the footage, it was an error. I am learning on video editing.

[@Cobbmtngirl]

“Aids really works”😮😂

[@juniemoon1528]

It was actually Ayds. Long before AIDS the virus, of course. I took them as a chubby pre-teen. They were chocolate candies that you would take with a hot drink, and they worked. Had no idea the Morgans were involved.

[@velocitygirl8551]

I voted today… hope all you do too, not today per se, but soon lol 💙💙💙🗳️🗳️🗳️

[@sonyaodesho2665]

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[@edwardsmith3176]

Cut out the music. It drowned out the voice of the reader.

[@jacquiesbrood]

Why the annoying background music!

[@nancyvillines4552]

It was spelled AYD'S. I remember it 😂

[@kimmccabe1422]

Great life if you ask me. And she never dumped the bear😊

[@teresachill]

Thelma is pronounced Telma. Letter H is silent. This is how Gloria Vanderbilt pronounced her name in documentary, "Nothing left Unsaid."

[@mitzicrowder2186]

Wallace was so unattractive

[@MythicMindScape21]

Edward liked to be mothered and dominated. That is why she held such sway.

[@neatpaws]

👍

[@WVgrl59]

Her son looks like her husband.

[@MythicMindScape21]

He does, but Duke was convinced he was the Prince's; this week I am doing a video on another of Duke's wives; he was truly an unpleasant man.

[@thomashiggins1466]

Her name was pronounced Telma in the Spanish way, fyi

[@colleenwhalen-pg7un]

This is an overwrought, over blown massive hype. There was nothing "fascinating" or "extraordinary" about Thelma Furness. She was nothing more than an idle socialite and she led a completely frivolous, shallow life. This video tries to hype her up into some superstar status - she had no accomplishments except for inheiriting lots of money and being a shallow socialite.

[@MythicMindScape21]

It tells her story, if you disagree with aspects or facts , please share so we can discuss. My goal is not to bring anyone up, or bring anyone down. But to tell the story , and let the viewer decide on the person. You can find hundreds of videos on yt, that will go for salacious insulting things, please enjoy them. I believe the person telling the biography should be neutral, as people are smart enough to form their own opinions. Please, tell me where my facts were wrong? So I can learn, thanks.

[@Whatsnormal637]

Really not pretty at all. 🤺💐

[@Colorbrush21]

The twins were not photogenic. I have only seen 3 or 4 pictures where I could call them beautiful. In her novel The Honeycomb, writer Adela Rogers St. John revealed who she considered to be the most beautiful woman she had ever seen. She listed Vivien Leigh, Madeline Carroll, Hedy LaMarr, the young Elizabeth Taylor, and Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt. Gloria and Thelma were identical so, if Gloria was considered beautiful, Thelma must have been striking, too.

[@SharynPrevost]

Another home run for you. I’m unable to detect the deficiencies you alluded to and in my layperson’s opinion, these videos belong on PBS! I really enjoyed this one, getting to know the Morgan girls. They come across as more than vapid good-time girls. Especially impressed with them sewing their own clothes! That takes skill and creativity. Along with everyone else, the bear in her handbag at the end left me misty.

[@Alexandra-zp3gr]

She was referring to their niece, Gloria Vanderbilt (mother of Anderson Cooper) much prettier than her twin aunts, Gloria & Thelma.@@Colorbrush21

[@Wltelidon]

三十几岁。。。。。。。

[@robinanddaviddavies8317]

Too bad the photos don't match dialogue.

[@MythicMindScape21]

I am a small creator, I spend hours on this, research work. I am sorry that my videos disappoint you. This is about 50 hours of work, for almost no money, just out of love of doing this, and telling the story. Sorry it doesn't meet your standards. I am not a professional video editor, I strive to get better with each subsequent video, but I am learning how to edit as I go. Again, sorry the video disappointed you. Perhaps one day my channel will be popular enough to hire such a person. Until then I will try to do better.

[@JenLev]

The editing is great. People will always look for something to complain about. This is the most informative video on Thelma Furness I have seen. Thank you for your work.

[@kristiwallace2089]

How did Ali Khan bag all these beautiful ladies? He looks like a dirty mop head. He must of had one hell of a bank account, uh, I mean personality 😅

[@MythicMindScape21]

He really does appear in quite a lot of these videos doesn't he.

[@kristiwallace2089]

@@MythicMindScape21 that he does.

[@MythicMindScape21]

@@kristiwallace2089 🤣

[@thresagraham8181]

Fascinating 👍🌻

[@guldenaydin9918]

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