The Stoicism Secrets Of Marcus Aurelius - Donald Robertson

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Chris Williamson

Chris Williamson

Күн бұрын

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@ChrisWillx
@ChrisWillx 2 жыл бұрын
I adore Donald. Enjoy. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:17 Why Marcus Aurelius Followed Greek Philosophy 08:34 How Meditations Was Written 17:24 Condensing Large Concepts 27:40 What Marcus Aurelius Would Say About Social Media 33:07 Stoic View of Depression & Anxiety 46:15 How Crazy was Nero? 54:49 Releasing the Tiller 59:54 Ancient Psychedelic Mysteries 1:06:03 How Marcus Aurelius Prepared for Death 1:14:37 Could Stoicism Be Cancelled? 1:18:08 Overcoming Fame’s Seduction 1:21:53 Where to Find Donald
@davidhunt7427
@davidhunt7427 2 жыл бұрын
*_The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane._* ~ Marcus Aurelius
@piccalillies
@piccalillies 2 жыл бұрын
Something about listening about Stoicism in a Scottish accent.
@brandnew4451
@brandnew4451 2 жыл бұрын
if baddies in movies are portrayed with an English accent, then the Accient stoics should be portrayed by Scottish actors 😂
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandnew4451 They can take our lives, but they will never take our wisdom!
@brandnew4451
@brandnew4451 2 жыл бұрын
@@bbqnpcs5514 🤣
@danyyboye
@danyyboye 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't go past 30min mark. The rising intonations just effing me up royally lol
@joas162
@joas162 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, loved the accent too. They should have recorded the audio locally though, little hard to follow at times because of the quality.
@ArcakalTalks
@ArcakalTalks Жыл бұрын
"Thank you for reminding us all that we possess the inner strength to achieve greatness. Your video is a reminder to never give up!"
@troya.8094
@troya.8094 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing... just got introduced to stoicism and Marcus Aurelius
@jimnian4031
@jimnian4031 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@chasearchibald2039
@chasearchibald2039 2 жыл бұрын
Golden advice for anxiety
@jakelee8538
@jakelee8538 2 жыл бұрын
"Fluency is used as a proxy for truthfulness or insight."..... Jesus, Chris.... That's good man.
@JamesKendric
@JamesKendric 2 жыл бұрын
Great podcast. Listened to his ebook and my favorite lesson is no matter what your emotions are, do what is right and process your emotions later.
@gracefitzgerald2227
@gracefitzgerald2227 2 жыл бұрын
I have both book and audio of How to think like a Roman Emperor. He narrates the book and it flows so beautifully. His voice is soothing and you sink in deep. Marvelous gentleman
@mup1537
@mup1537 2 жыл бұрын
Marcus Aurelius's Meditations are a cornerstone for my life trajectory and mindset.
@senshai1267
@senshai1267 2 жыл бұрын
just finished reading Meditations, great timing
@hoodoooperator.5197
@hoodoooperator.5197 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised to hear that Donald thinks Marcus wasn't writing his meditations up to his death. I've always interpreted the final entry as the acceptance that his life would be coming to a close shortly. Either way, great conversation, probably my favorite of yours Chris.
@C0nstellati0ns
@C0nstellati0ns 2 жыл бұрын
Donald Robertson is awesome!
@metalninja2474
@metalninja2474 2 жыл бұрын
Not even watched it yet and it's already a like from me for having Robertson on!
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaah, a chitter can die, so a chitter must be a tutor. Two lessons, one in Marcus Aurelius, the other in Scottish, fused into one. Upvoted!
@lloovvaallee
@lloovvaallee 2 жыл бұрын
A great guest. It took a few minutes for my ear to adjust to his accent.
@excelself
@excelself 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve listen tho Marcus Aurelius meditations on a loop. It is truly amazing how much insight he had on the human psyche. I liked how he called out some men for trying to act like women lol 😂
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful with is parenting advice. "I should not ask, how do I keep my child from dying, I should ask instead, how do I not care whether my child dies". Yikes. You don't want your son turning out like Commodus.
@vere
@vere 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimluebke3869 What translation is that? I've never read that in Gregory Hayes' translation of Meditations.
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 2 жыл бұрын
@@vere It's in the Penguin Books version. It stuck in my mind because it was shocking.
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
M.A. on shuffle. Respect!
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 2 жыл бұрын
@Echo I missed that part, that's a good point. Although, when they make a movie about his most famous son and he's played by Joaquin Phoenix, you have to take a step back and ask what went wrong.
@kathleenkaleookalanismith8724
@kathleenkaleookalanismith8724 2 жыл бұрын
I just love this channel.
@LanceDobson
@LanceDobson Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing to do with this episode is to close my eyes and imagine Chris is interviewing Shrek about stoicism.
@Administrator7
@Administrator7 Жыл бұрын
Saw the wedding ring " A good wife will make you happy, a bad wife will make you a philosopher" Socrates
@thomascoughlan3316
@thomascoughlan3316 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Definitely need more of this.
@rebeccapenders5050
@rebeccapenders5050 2 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. Thank you both!
@VillaOfOrmen
@VillaOfOrmen 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you can post this on Spotify ! Very informative episode- as a student of Stoicism.
@mattanderson6672
@mattanderson6672 11 ай бұрын
Love this guy!!! Where did yoyu find him Chris, he's brilliant Get Donald back soon, really enjoyed that!
@Ryan.Q
@Ryan.Q 7 ай бұрын
love this guys accent
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, are we going to get a "How to Think Like an Emperor, Caligula edition"?
@PhilosopherMuse
@PhilosopherMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, I appreciate the questions you put forth in this interview. Very nice and crisp like. Would you consider mediating a dialogue between Roberston and Jordan Peterson. You wouldn't have as much elbow room but it would make for a great conversation all the same.
@brandnew4451
@brandnew4451 2 жыл бұрын
Philo = Love Sophie (Goddess) = Wisdom The Love of Wisdom = Philosophy
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
Or the love of all Sophies...
@brandnew4451
@brandnew4451 2 жыл бұрын
@@bbqnpcs5514 can second that, but it was also a typo on my part, was meant to be Sophi(a)
@nonfictionone
@nonfictionone 2 жыл бұрын
Poly = multiple tics = blood sucking parasites
@Hyumanity
@Hyumanity 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Bei671
@Bei671 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Going to check out Roman Empire on Netflix now.
@joas162
@joas162 2 жыл бұрын
This was great. I'm not a big fan of Ryan Holiday's interpretations, maybe because it's 'too American' for my liking. Found out I have one of Donald's books in my library that's been sitting there unread for a few years. Will definitely read it now :)
@KhaosKryptos
@KhaosKryptos 2 жыл бұрын
fortes fortuna adiuvat - Fortune Favours the Bold!
@sebastianprimomija8375
@sebastianprimomija8375 2 жыл бұрын
Theophilus, don’t perform oral s*x on girls against the city wall like a dog - Anonymous Roman, Pompeii.
@jabbrewoki
@jabbrewoki 2 жыл бұрын
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori. -It is sweet and proper to die for one's country (ironic title of a poem)
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice that Marcus Aurelius statue resembles Viva Frie?
@rainmanjr2007
@rainmanjr2007 2 жыл бұрын
There are two types of people. Avoid them both. Until next time, then, kids.
@stacyliddell5038
@stacyliddell5038 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Fronto asked Marcus to check his grammar as a test? Perhaps he purposefully made mistakes to see if his apprentice would pick it up. It's just an angle I thought of.
@nonfictionone
@nonfictionone 2 жыл бұрын
Twitter, and its like, is showing us what people are like when we feel safe. And that’s kind of scary
@penghunter4565
@penghunter4565 2 жыл бұрын
Heelllll yeah
@jgarciajr82
@jgarciajr82 2 жыл бұрын
No thyself to me seems like the Eastern way. Knowing there is no self and knowing that we are beyond self.
@Fillup82
@Fillup82 2 жыл бұрын
More of a fan than Ryan Holiday? 🤔
@ErnestRamaj
@ErnestRamaj 2 жыл бұрын
He may be.
@enzosae9927
@enzosae9927 2 жыл бұрын
same exact thought
@domwren
@domwren 2 жыл бұрын
Marcus being madly in love with his tutor Fronto isn't mentioned.
@DonaldRobertson
@DonaldRobertson 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt Marcus was actually madly in love with Fronto. There's one modern scholar who speculates they had a love affair but I think the evidence is very weak indeed and it's much more likely, as most historians assume, that Marcus is simply very effusive in expressing affectionate friendship. At one point, e.g., he compares his love for Fronto with the love he has for his own mother, not something you'd normally say to an actual lover. I think Marcus just loved his family and friends.
@domwren
@domwren 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonaldRobertson You mean Amy Richlin's book, with respect to the modern scholar? "God, no, I am dying so for love of you, and I’m not scared off by this doctrine of yours, and if you’re going to be more ripe and ready for others who don’t love you, I will still love you as long as I live and breathe." Did he write to anyone else, in this way?
@DonaldRobertson
@DonaldRobertson 2 жыл бұрын
@@domwren Yes. We don't really have any comparable letters by Marcus addressed to anyone else, except Fronto. This passage might be read as evidence of romantic love between them but on the face of it Marcus appears to be, perhaps, responding to a sort of literary exercise. And, at least as I recall, Marcus and Fronto do show, in passing, that they also refer to affection for family members in terms that might seem quite effusive from our modern-day perspective.
@psarri72
@psarri72 2 жыл бұрын
where would the world be without the Greeks
@CKing-he8wh
@CKing-he8wh 2 жыл бұрын
17:01 i do not like the breath work language!!👿
@carbon1479
@carbon1479 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Panksepp, I let me passions win 30% of the time.
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use a RNG to pick your winning passions?
@carbon1479
@carbon1479 2 жыл бұрын
@@bbqnpcs5514 the ones that don't shaft my future (at least I hope).
@t0nyc0nde
@t0nyc0nde 2 жыл бұрын
With such a thick accent, Donald needs to have a much better microphone. This was hard to listen to.
@johnmccaffrey5942
@johnmccaffrey5942 Жыл бұрын
Believe me his Scottish accent isn’t think.
@newshighlights2520
@newshighlights2520 2 жыл бұрын
Please stop saying "like"
@excellentcomment
@excellentcomment 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm a fatty"--? Bit harsh.
@bbqnpcs5514
@bbqnpcs5514 2 жыл бұрын
You misheard the Scottish for "am I a 50". As in "I am not merely a 10 ... I am a 50!" Nero has no monopoly over raging narcissism.
@BellaBella-jw9ef
@BellaBella-jw9ef 2 жыл бұрын
The sophists sound a lot like the modern woke movement.
@chakravartin3356
@chakravartin3356 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. My favourite emperor is Aurelian. People don't need smart ass dude in the time of crisis. People need bold man that is willing to rule the world with iron hands
@thinkingagain5966
@thinkingagain5966 2 жыл бұрын
Your opinion = irrelevant
@Bolden47
@Bolden47 2 жыл бұрын
Stealing prior knowledge and wisdom and getting worshipped hundreds of years later for it lol
@jocquemorrison9785
@jocquemorrison9785 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but he is very hard to understand.
@aodhoruairc
@aodhoruairc Жыл бұрын
Not if you're Scottish
@metodifitness8824
@metodifitness8824 2 жыл бұрын
Get AirPods brother
@jocquemorrison9785
@jocquemorrison9785 Жыл бұрын
He is so confusing.
@aodhoruairc
@aodhoruairc Жыл бұрын
?
@maxxmann3748
@maxxmann3748 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Thema, but the guest has a crapy accent to hear
@aodhoruairc
@aodhoruairc Жыл бұрын
How subjective of you
@Owen-C1997
@Owen-C1997 2 жыл бұрын
I want to respect and learn from this guy but there's just a mental block around learning from someone who claims to study stoics very closely but is clearly over weigh and a glutton with food.. so you don't follow the stoic teachings... Ok
@nonfictionone
@nonfictionone 2 жыл бұрын
An alcoholic could teach you a whole lot about alcohol and how and why not to be an alcoholic.
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