The Tongues of Angels? The Pentecostalization of Spiritual Gifts in Evangelicalism | Scott Aniol

Contemporary evangelicalism, I believe, has been thoroughly Pentecostalized with the expectation that if the Holy Spirit is active and working, then we will witness extraordinary effects ranging from direct revelation, special gifting, and emotional euphoria. In addition to receiving new revelation from the Holy Spirit, many professing Christians today also believe that the Holy Spirit continues to gift believers with special abilities like healing and speaking in tongues.
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[@rosemaryrojahn584]

I attended a word of faith church for awhile and the gifts were greatly emphasized. What I noticed especially is that this seemed to put the emphasis on the "gift" rather than the giver of the gift. I wanted the gifts for myself. I thank God He had set me straight. He is more than enough !

[@yakangler419]

Seems to me that this focus on “gifts” is AWAY from a focus on Christ (which should raise an immediate concern), to personal power and used as confirmation to themselves and others that their faith is real.

[@ltilley7343]

Good point. Thank you.

[@PneumaticTube]

It does come across that way. However, there are still some decent points to consider in this video.

[@yakangler419]

@@PneumaticTubeI meant to the general charismatic follower, not the video. The video does make good points. Should be a continued conversation in our community for sure 👍

[@bartdanison3236]

Good job! As a former pentecostal minister I can testify to the amount of mischief worked in the body of Christ by continuationists. There is nothing "full" about the gospel that they are preaching.

[@lubesiron-cslfarmsllc2751]

I was involved in the charismatic church for many years, and I definitely agree with your comment

[@watchmanjason]

GOD doesn't change and so is His Spirit.

[@bigtobacco1098]

Are we still writing scripture ?? Still making sacrifice at the temple ??

[@timtherrien7843]

God does not change, but He DOES use different methods at different times to accomplish His ends. And there were periods of time spanning centuries where no notable miracles occurred. Jesus himself said that an adulterous generation seeks after signs. God blessed those who have faith without having to see miracles all the time.

[@Bad_Llama]

The evangelicals I speak to on this want to use the miracles that God still on occasion performs (not through humans with Apostolic gifts) as a bludgeon in a conversation about the supposed evangelical gifts. They most often refuse to hear me when I say God works in His ways how He wills but not through humans as He did in the days of the Apostles. We need to pray for these brothers and for those who put their faith in anything other than Jesus as revealed through the Word of God.

[@ramon4348]

I'm gonna pray for you . Scripture speaks about people like you when it says concerning spiritual gifts I don't want you to be ignorant cor.12:1 verse 4 says THERE ARE diversities of of gifts. DONT BE IGNORANT . The devil has power why would God leave us without any?

[@bigtobacco1098]

​@@ramon4348I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

[@saved6655]

Well I’m glad you started with what He uses on occasion. I could care less how you perceive it. God still does miracles to bring about salvation. It’s never been human power anyway, always God, ALWAYS GOD. So God gifts men for the proclamation of the gospel and edification of the body. God does it not humans.

[@bigtobacco1098]

I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

[@dagwould]

Is not Paul's phrase 'tongues of angels' a hyperbolic comparison for the main point which is about love?

[@ramon4348]

I agree

[@mamaluvsherbabes]

"And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”" Mark 16:17-19

[@bigtobacco1098]

I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

[@louisekord9790]

Known languages

[@omanasoundararaj8914]

Thank you for this very useful message. I was expecting that at some point you would explain the tongues of angels mentioned in 1 Cor 13 - as the title of this video says!

[@PennySmart]

Obviously Paul is using hyperbole just as when he tells the judaisers to go and castrate themselves or in 1 Cor 13 "even if I give my body to be burnt"...

[@ramon4348]

I was an unbeliever on my way to hell an alcoholic drinking everyday my liver was giving out on me , my co worker preached Jesus to me prayed healing over me casted out many Demons mark 16:17 . I was healed and I believed. I was a blasphemer a mocker u didn't believe until I did , because the kingdom of God is not in word only but in power!! 1 cor 4:20

[@briangray7674]

Wasn't Paul's thorn in the flesh a particular sin?

[@ramon4348]

@@briangray7674 a thorn in the flesh to buffet me is all we got . Using modern day language I can only gather from that, a demon from satan was sent to him to make trouble for him to harras him. Not that Paul sinned.

[@ramon4348]

I honestly don't think Paul had the opportunity to sin so easily the way we do. He didn't have a tv to watch porn in when he checked in the hotel after preaching in a certain city. He was devoted to serving, the reason we Sin so easy is due to distractions derailing us from devotion to God.

[@louisekord9790]

If someone has the gift of healing when they pray for someone that person would be healed immediately as in the bible but they are not. However God does perform healings and miracles today.

[@PennySmart]

I agree with you. I still have doubts at times because people like John Piper and Don Carson are continuists but Piper himself has confided in an episode of Ask Pastor John that he "made himself" speak in tongues because he wanted the gift so much, and stopped doing it when he realised it came from him, not God. My guess is he's just more honest/self aware than most charismatics. As for the "tongues of angels" Paul is using hyperbole, just as when he tells the judaisers to go and castrate themselves or even in 1 Cor 13 "if I give my body to be burnt": this is hyperbole. And how could angels have such a poor vocabulary? When I listen to people speaking "in tongues": they keep repeating only a few syllables with few variations. But I think we are afraid of committing the unpardonable sin if we voice our scepticism (I am).

[@karencates5007]

Hope this biblical explanation helps regarding the unpardonable sin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX3dlKCNpcqrb7ssi=F0a-936a3ap5yk20

[@emmanuel5566]

I want to hear your thoughts about 1 Cor 14 tongues. . .? (I'm a reformed guy too but I don't want theological framework to interpret Bible. So im genuinely asking this)

[@chairapparent3183]

I would recommend the following equalization setting for Scott’s voice as a starting point Highpass filter to 100hz -5db, wide Q cut around 500hz +2db, high shelf beginning at 7khz

[@jenkinsbrigade9862]

I still struggle with reformed apologists giving a free pass to Sam Storms and other supposedly more conservative charismatics. While I do not deny that God can operate in whatever supernatural fashion He desires according to His own divine counsel, I cannot recall seeing any instances of valid (or even well attested) tongues, healing, or prophecy during my 23 years in the Pentecostal movement. If the entire Pentecostal paradigm is flawed, as I have come to believe that it is, then men like Sam Storms are partly at fault for perpetuating it, not to mention whitewashing some of the more egregious examples of excess within the charismatic ranks. For me, that places Storms and other 'moderate' charismatic/Pentecostal spokespeople squarely in the category of 'mark and avoid'.

[@chrismessier7094]

nice videos, but @ 4:30 it was said only diseases that are "untreatable" were healed...Peter's mother in law had a faver. Was it more than a regular one?

[@bloodboughtbigphilr8266]

I believe that the gift of tongues can be manifested in this say and age to some Christians to suit God's purposes. Tongues have a variety of functions (1 Cor 14:6, 15) and I would say that the sign to Israel component is pretty much redundant for now. (1 Cor 14: 21-22). I reject notions that all believers can or must speak with tongues or that it is THE evidence of being filled/baptized with the Holy Spirit. With a complete canon of Scripture, they are not needed in the local church or assembly to the same extent as the early church and where they do occur, there has to be an interpreter no if's or buts (1 Cor 14:28). Speaking in a Heavenly or Angelic language during the exercise of the gift is plausible (1 Cor 13:1) but it would sound like a proper language not gibberish copying what's been heard in someone else or stringing a few syllables together and improvising here and there. The vast majority of tongues claimed today are not the authentic Biblical gift and based on poor exegesis.

[@royalt7596]

As a former cessationist, I found this to be a thoughtful response and I agree with some of it. That being said, however, I again find it interesting that within orthodoxy (especially on secondary and tertiary issues) eisegetic tendencies continue to make their way into the hermeneutical process. I understand that absolute objectivity is not really possible (as everyone brings some biases and presuppositions to the text) but it should still be the goal. It seems as if theologians possess a need to arrive at the same sort of dogmatism inherent in the fundamental and essential doctrines of the faith that we are to contend for. Aniol here is espousing a particular view on the spiritual gifts (tongues & healing specifically). It is not the only valid view. I appreciate his irenic approach to and mention of godly men like Carson and Storms who would provide a different view, and who would be just as gifted as Aniol in articulating their respective view(s). I agree that the occurrence of tongues in Acts 2 is a sign to the Jews indicating the expansion of the gospel to the nations. The other occurrences in Acts (Historical Narrative) do not by necessity have to be read the same way. The mention of tongues in 1 Corinthians (epistle-didactic), I would argue, should not be read the same way (cf. "Exegetical Fallacies" by D.A. Carson). 1 Corinthians 13 & 14 should be understood in light of 1 Corinthians 12. Paul's point in 1 Cor. 13 is to underscore the necessity for unity in the Body of Christ (Ch. 12) by showing the superiority of love over the gifts and as the means to properly exercise those gifts. Relating the cessation of "certain" gifts to the completion of the Canon (an argument traditionally derived from the "in part and perfect" portion of 1 Cor. 13) is contrived as it disregards the contextual (a fundamental of hermeneutics) meaning of "perfect" in Chapter 13. In fact, τέλειον does not carry the meaning of scriptural revelation anywhere in the NT or LXX (19 occurrences in NT and 15 in LXX). I recognize that there are indeed abuses within and propagated by the Charismatic movement. Many godly Pentecostal leaders would admit the same. There are also abuses within the Reformed movement, and others. We should exercise caution in our response in an attempt to prevent overcorrection. As Aniol stated, it is possible to be godly, orthodox, and hold to a different view. This is what honest theology looks like. Discussion without a leap to dogmatism and/or division.

[@ronniewright6639]

Paula White's justification for running around shouting repeatedly "ho ho ho ho, ha ha ha ha" .. she says "it's the tongues of angels" 😂

[@HearGodsWord]

I can't get that out of my head now 😂

[@ramon4348]

Unfortunately some folk do fake speaking in tongues sadly.

[@indialeestarks3935]

With respect to cessation vs. continuation…without explicit teaching and direction from scripture, how can people (emphasis on people) say definitively that it’s one or the other? Especially when it comes to cessation, which sounds like I am being taught to disregard everything Paul says about these things, whether people mean this or not. I never hear anyone who makes either claim that they could be wrong, or that it’s not expressly mentioned in scripture. How is this not dangerous, risky, and arrogant (and mostly arrogant)? And this is where my problem lies…I’ve always listened to people who “teach.” But, to my detriment. I’ve been lead astray too many times by men and women who “think” they are right about what they teach….thank the Lord for his grace and mercy - He has lead me out of such teachings. I claim no denomination gang. Christ is not divided, lest we forget. And now I have no choice but to take hold of Paul’s words “that none should teach” you (lest I’m told that’s not for today, either). But now, more than ever, I see the importance of what Paul said there. We are told to handle our salvation with fear and trembling…I don’t see that in many people who speak about these things. But thanks to our Father for the REAL teacher, the Holy Spirit, who will teach us ALL things. Be humble.

[@bigtobacco1098]

I used the three legged stool of scripture, reason and tradition....

[@bluejojordan]

Was the Holy Ghost poured out in Acts 2 on the apostles only or the 120 (including the apostles). The reason why I ask is because in Acts 2:8 the people ask are not all these that speak Galilean? As far as I understand the 12 apostles were all Galilean, but were all the 120 Galilean? Then in Acts 2:14 - it says Peter standing up with the eleven. Could it have been the Holy Spirit was poured out on the 12 disciples and not the 120? Thanks

[@tedbrooks-formerwordoffait1316]

I am a former Word of Faith Preacher.... 30 years ago I came to a place where I was tired of all the flaky stuff that was going on in my Church... and the claims of members that were totally extra-biblical and off the wall. So, I decided to start from scratch.... and build again from the only thing I knew was right.... Jesus is right. In my journey, I came to understand that were two extremes in the church.... cessationism and continuationism.... But I discovered one more view that I had not considered. If Isaiah 28:11 "For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, " is fulfilled throughout the ministry of Christ... then... All the Continuists and Cessationists are all in big trouble. I had to literally redefine the concept of tongues as the language of God that Jesus and the Apostles spoke.... It's not hidden... it is written in black and white.

[@ramon4348]

One thing is true and two things for certain I was healed in the name of Jesus from liver pain on my side , the man spoke in tongues and casted devil's out of me , I never believed in any that I was a hoodlum , but it didn't matter wether or not I believed in it , Hosea 4:6 . The gifts are real and are not to be ignored 1 cor.12:1 and they are available to the believers today .

[@Ann_0103]

Hi Ted! I’ve been sincerely blessed by your channel. Thank you.

[@Charles-244s]

I'm sure the enemy is having a great time seeing the church divided in these posts. Does God's word not say to stop being children and be mature? I read very little encouragement in these posts. Why not lifr each other up and rejoice in the Lord. Think about this brethren.

[@emmanuel5566]

Well, 1 Cor 14 tongues was NOT addressed at all I believe in reformed theology, but it doesn't restrict continuation of gifts imo

[@bigtobacco1098]

I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

[@bigtobacco1098]

Sufficiency of scripture

[@bigtobacco1098]

Sola scriptura

[@christinelagrone2459]

​@@bigtobacco1098Are you asserting that the gifts of the Spirit have ceased? If so, what is your scriptural authority for this claim?

[@bigtobacco1098]

@@christinelagrone2459 1cor 12-14

[@shawnlauderdale6502]

The word says forsake not to speak with tongues and Corinthians teaches that the promise is unto us and to our children and to all that are afar off as many as our Lord shall call. Prophecies and tongues shall not cease until the perfect one has come-->Jesus. Tongues is for the "unbeliever" as prophecy is for the believer. Jesus also talks about it just before he assended up to heaven in Mark 16:17-18. There is tongues prayer language to God for our edification. If you say tongues and prophecies have ceased, your telling a lie, those who believe are not condemned but those who don't are condemned already.

[@darlenemckay265]

Amen!

[@ramon4348]

Tell it how it is there ignorant of spiritual gifts just as Paul warns in 1 cor. 12:1 .

[@supersmart671]

Please pray for me. My family is divided. My wife is a Pentacostal she does not come with to church....i feel like killing myself sometimes

[@loganbaumstark8950]

If she is a born-again believer, she is also your sister in Christ. Scripture says to keep the peace with our fellow believers and seek unity. If she loves Christ then just pray together and seek middle ground. I would also encourage you that God is bigger than our interpretation of Scripture. I love G3 but I’m no longer a cessationist

[@natewwc2741]

Seek brothers in Christ to walk through life with. I empathize with you through the pain of relational stress and the trials we face-been there. Rest in the eternal Hope we have in Jesus! Praying for you, praying for your wife. He is with us through times like these, maturing us, and is ever faithful. You’re not alone. You, me, all of us in Christ have relationship with God and each other. I pray the fruit of the Spirit is displayed through you and brings you peace. Tomorrow is a new day, brother! -Nate

[@supersmart671]

@@natewwc2741 no one around me. I came from a place in Kerala, India where Pentacostalism is quite rampant.

[@davesawe5346]

The most important job a Christian has is to spread the Gospel by words or lifestyle. Anything outside of that is useless. And if you have a problem with that, go speak in tongues.

[@emielvanderwel5200]

I find it interesting that not a single charismatic ever had been given the gift of tongues and then went to that tongues country for gospel witnessing. They all study a language like other Christians

[@ramon4348]

Scripture strictly says, and these signs shall accompany those who believe Mark 16:17 . If you don't believe in it it's totally fine it's not for you. Don't ignorantly critize those that do it just makes you look foolish. Cause I have been healed from liver pain which is a major reason i came to believe in the risen christ. Who is the same yesterday today and forever Hebrews 13:8

[@robertherrera1234]

He was speaking to the apostolic community not all believers of all ages. Context context context. The first three rules for sound exegesis. God still does miracles! PTL you’re healed!

[@saved6655]

@@robertherrera1234 ok as your saying context context context, show me where mark is saying only the apostles. Context says “all who believe.” Show me scripturally don’t give me some round about garbage of history. Show me where this is pointing specifically to the apostles.

[@jimmybrowning4888]

Sam storms also said that Benny hinn loved Jesus, oh he has a manipulative style, storms way of saying he robs people of their money and lives a lavish lifestyle on the backs of the poor, sick , and desperate. So sam says its ok cause he believes he loves jesus. If he truly loved Jesus he wouldn't be a theif.so sams words mean nothing he to is a liar and upholds the man for stealing.

[@HearGodsWord]

Yeah, that opinion on Hinn really troubled me with Storms

[@robertherrera1234]

@@HearGodsWordStorms seems to take the Dr. Brown position of not calling out anyone.

[@bechet12]

Kool aid reigns in the christian space until it doesn't!

[@andrewpearson1903]

I'm not a charismatic, but given the choice I would much rather be testing gifts in the hope that they're real, than be lectured by pompous "reformed" guys about how God has stopped speaking to man except through their interpretation of the Bible.

[@Steblu74]

Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if miraculous sign gifts were given indiscriminately to anyone who "claimed " or desired them? False teachers from opposite spectrums of theology supposedly would have to "duke it out" with miraculous signs. It is better to say that the Spirit "divides to every man severally as He will" or empowers each one of us with the specific abilities and powers needed for our purpose in God's house, the church...

[@ramon4348]

Doesn't Paul say desire spiritual gifts? 1 cor. 14:1 have you read the Bible?

[@ramon4348]

Or was he just teasing when he said this?

[@ramon4348]

The spirit does give as He wills but we also are to desire spiritual gifts.

[@fredhall5038]

I have to wonder, if tongues have ceased, what else of the gifts have ceased? Indeed, what of Pastors. Teachers, and Evangelists who are described as ‘gifts’ to the Church? I offer an opinion, only an opinion, and you may take it or leave it. The supernatural gifts of God such as tongues and healings are witnesses to both believers and unbelievers that God is alive and well and at work in the world. The Bible in itself is a supernatural revelation that serves to give witness to God’s being, will, and purposes. All these evidences, all these wonderful gifts, are still as necessary today as in Peter’s Acts experience. Why? Because mankind HAS NOT changed! Man is still a sinner in need of salvation. Man still needs healings and miracles even as he needs the Word. The power of witness is that these gifts point to the Lord and Savior who gives them. Man has technology and medicine, yet man still glory’s in his own virtues and deny’s he is a sinner. The gifts are a witness that urges us to turn to Jesus as who the gifts claim he is, fully God. May God bless you all.

[@septemberbabydoll]

Sam Storm is not an orthodox continuationist. He’s more full blown charismatic. Anyone who believes prophecy has continued and that Benny Hinn is a Christian, is not orthodox anything and Sam Storm absolutely believes both. I post this reply respectfully. Thank you.

[@OQUINN83]

What about Pastor Gino Jennings

[@adriaanj1808]

The individual you are referring to does not believe that Jesus Christ is God.

[@ronniewright6639]

I'd rather listen to Waylon Jennings

[@CatfishHeaven777]

False teacher

[@i-jamesazubuike9208]

False prophets and false christs, they are the ones after continuationism - It's all self-glorification.

[@saved6655]

You skipped right over 1 Corinthians 14:2 Paul says “one who speaks in a tongue speaks to God not to men.” That completely destroys the fact that it’s always actual language(hence speaking to God not to men). As a matter of a fact Paul says this kind of tongues is for edifying yourself and not for prophesy. So his comment that there’s no reason to believe that 1 Corinthians 14 is the same thing as languages then just hurrying on shows he did not want to deal with the text. He did not even read it or look at it. I love you brothers but when we witness these signs will follow those who believe. Not just apostles but those who believe. For what purpose? The proclamation of the gospel acts 1:8. If your all bible you will dry up, if your all Spirit you will blow up. Be both and you will grow up. Just go preach the full counsel of the gospel and God will bring about those who are called before the foundation of the world however He desires.

[@shawnlauderdale6502]

Jesus said to Nicodemus in John 3:3-8 you must be born again to see the kingdom of heaven, notice how he mentioned the sound of the wind and relating it to being born again. Your teaching a lie and that's very dangerous.

[@user-rj8py9ld3j]

Jesus died for telling the truth: In John 19:7, the Jews answered him “We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.” Jesus himself said he is the *Son* of God, but man says that's a lie. Jesus also said the Father is the only true God. Making two or three Gods will lead you to hell. For true believers, there's only one God and one Savior (1 Corinthians 8:6), and you must know them both to reach eternal life.

[@zerosparky9510]

He also said He and the Father are ONE. the Jews understood this. i guess you don,t

[@HearGodsWord]

​@@zerosparky9510 exactly, why else did they say he was blasphemer and want to store him

[@user-rj8py9ld3j]

@@zerosparky9510 I understand it clearly because the Holy Spirit revealed it to me. It seems you do not. Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit have God's power and spirit living in them. This is what makes them one with God the Father, but separate beings. Jesus said “Ye have neither heard *his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.”* Jesus speaks on behalf of God the Father from beginning to end (John 12:49-50). Jesus and the Father are one in agreement in all things. Jesus warns if we don't believe he came out from God, we will die in our sins (John 8:24, John 16:27). The Father dwells in and does all works through Jesus (John 14:10). This is what it means for US to become ONE, even as THEY are ONE (John 17:21-22). "That THEY [mankind] all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that *THEY also may be ONE in US:* that the world may believe that *THOU hast sent me.* [22] And the glory which *thou gavest me* I have given them; that *THEY may be ONE, even as WE are ONE:"* To be "one" with the Father does not mean to “be God.” We cannot be God; nor can Jesus--for he is the SON of God, and the Father is his and our only true God (John 20:17). Amen.

[@zerosparky9510]

clearly you are deceived. Jesus is fully God and Fully Man. Jesus has always been God. God is the Trinity. @@user-rj8py9ld3j

[@zerosparky9510]

and the Jewish leaders clearly understood what He was saying and you don,t.

[@jesusislord553]

"Evangelicalism has been thoroughly pentecostalized"? So...if you go out to openly preach the Gospel then youre an evangelical...and you WILL also speak in tongues...huh? All i know is that i was born of the Spirit and i did NOT cause it, which drives some people to insanity to hear that. Deep down i guess they believe they caused it...and they are actually arminians...which causes things like Alister Begg to happen as well as most of the AFA/AFR preachers...but nobody seems to notice all that. I don't speak in tongues, ever. But i do know that im saved. When i pray about things to God i cry...i mean it just comes out because i feel it. Almost 5 years doing that and to me its my very heart and spirit crying Abba,Father by the Holy Spirit. I have the feeling this man might tell me i have a demon for being "ecstatic" or something....but i would listen to the exposition of this man or certainly MacArthur than a sheister like Hinn ,(for example). Im not in crisis mode over this...but the actual feeling i get when i pray is like walking into the room and there is the person you love. Frankly, i would be concerned for someone who doesn't have that in them for the Lord. I mean..you were taken by salvation to stop worshipping things, to worshipping God. Ive never really spoken about this openly.

[@jodyel]

Same here. When you are born again you know it without any doubt. Nothing else is needed.

[@glennthomas8194]

An intellectual effort to explain how God operates. How sad ... this is what all cessationists do.

[@michaels7325]

Did you write this before or after checking with God using baby babble?

[@ltilley7343]

It is not a sad thing to search God's Word. He used scripture to explain his understanding. What is sad is your uncharitable spirit towards a brother in Christ, or in your words "all" brothers that have come to a different conclusion than you.

[@zerosparky9510]

you have only your opinion. not Scripture.

[@NoOtherGospelMinistry]

He is literally using scripture to explain his points. I fear the charismatic view of tongues is extra-biblical and is wholly made-up opinion.

[@ronniewagner5368]

That was loaded with scripture and a very thorough exegesis of the subject with scripture.

[@Brother_Brian]

You are wrong. He just laid it all out with scripture. The veil is over your face as you cannot see the truth.

[@zerosparky9510]

it is not Scripture. it is reading into Scripture what he wants to think. @@ronniewagner5368

[@zerosparky9510]

so tell me this. i believe in all Spiritual Gifts are for today. here is what happened one time. so my friend and i have coffee every few weeks. so one night . he has a friend of his from where he goes. a AOG church. so this guy was talking as he drank some coffee. as he was talking and i was looking at him. right across his face in my mind,s eye so to speak. very subtle. i see the word, " pain". was there for about 2 seconds. i know i saw it. but it caught me off guard. So this guy keep talkig. he says his wife left him , took his kids. moved to another state. i was floored. i startn thinking. that he was in emotional pain. i am sure he was and is. but he keep talking. He then says he has a pain pump on his back. i thought what is a pain pump. he says he has cancer. my friend Bob and i did pray with him. see God can do anything he wants to do.the question is do you believe this or not. G3 has NO Scripture for their own viewpoint. i am telling the truth. @@Brother_Brian

[@godschild2432]

No sir this is totally incorrect and sad and heretical teaching. The Holy Spirit uses signs and wonders through the believer to save the unbeliever, this is something you fail to understand. Jesus said if you do not beleive me beleive the works that I do. So you are telling me all the many people who have been truly healed, people who speak in tongues and prophesy are all making it up? SMH

[@diversityhobbit]

Shambalah ballallaha hallla shambala lamba. Anyone saved yet????

[@jimmybrowning4888]

Jesus said to Thomas, "You believe because you have seen, blessed are those who believe but have not seen." We are to live by faith, not by sight. The jews were due a sign and a sign was given. If you would take the time to research the history of the pentecostal denomination, you would find that they believed that tounges were a known human language. Only after they all failed to speak in foreign languages while trying to do missions did they then decide that it must be a private prayer language. Nowhere in the bible is there a mention of any such tounges. All I ever hear is people talk about all this power but they can never demonstrate it, just talk.

[@emilymorales5887]

The folks who claim to speak in tongues are NOT Jesus. For the 15 years I was in the NAR cult I NEVER witnessed the miracles they claim happened. The services were run by hucksters engaging in chicanery.

[@7748bassfisherman]

Show me the signs and wonders. Other than the ones meant to deceive the elect, if that is possible….

[@rickcampanella4254]

Dispensation rightly dividing. Too many people mixing law with grace and having neither. Pentecostalism was started by a homosexual. Remember the antichrist will be performing signs and wonders. Beware of Ecumenicalism. Catholicism has been a lie from the very beginning also. Jesus never founded a state run religion.