The Top 10 Most Broken Characters in Smash History

[@Yashahiro_]

Any character that beats me is broken, and the player is cheating, and my controller was unplugged.

[@tristanpowell85]

You forgot that the screen was lagging.

[@username-ge7xe]

And someone was harassing you

[@DuckODuckProductions]

lolol

[@MintyMinster]

And someone was screaming so hard, you’d feel like this is hell.

[@kazthebeastmaster6932]

Bruh no johns

[@funnivamp55]

Smash 4 Bayonetta: You can't defeat me. Melee Fox: I know but he can. *Brawl Meta Knight appears*

[@nl7458]

Smash 4 Bayonetta be like : *Ohh.... F*CK*

[@rivia_jr1]

*Meta Knight’s Revenge gets louder as he gets closer*

[@sixarmedpsycho_9]

Reference?

[@brometheusthefirstbro4302]

I mean we all know that is utter bs and smash 4 bayo is the most broken smash character though right? The picks for this are good but the order is trash

[@bubbakalkaleak5234]

Thor memes but in ssb

[@destructive_thoughts_]

Everybody is here just to watch another list with Meta Knight on the first place? Me too

[@fordprefect5967]

You guys know what your talking about... Except for Diddy, you should of put him way higher then any ultimate character.

[@yurayt1913]

@@fordprefect5967 he's overrated

[@benjaminfenn3700]

whole thumbnail shouldve just been a rly zoomed in pixelated img of MK with no text whatsoever

[@seroujghazarian6343]

@@fordprefect5967 Two words. Piranha plant

[@pelotudo334]

Me 2

[@noobsandwich4598]

"Pichu is so small most people have trouble even hitting him." Ganondorf: * laughes in DORIYAH *

[@razeboxanimations3215]

Noob Sandwich Bowser drop kicks pichu

[@jakeystarsuper]

Yeah except for big and heavy characters

[@NeatoBurrito05]

Pichu is actually one of the best counters to ganondorf

[@vex_3455]

Noob Sandwich *laughs in olimar*

[@NeatoBurrito05]

@Jarod Tang have you heard, grab , down throw, up air, forward air.

[@coreymiller876]

Just to be fair theres a HUGE space between top tier and broken. Peach takes a lot of skill in ultimate. Meta Knight was easy to play and the most broken character EVER in brawl

[@mb1sqn033]

Broken is the character you can use them and play like that one stupid spammer and still win

[@Redlion1900]

I'd say Meta knight takes some skill because anyone who plays brawl at top level knows that matchup like the back of their hand

[@TheGuyCalledX]

He is noob friendly, yes, but to execute him at an intermediate level required quite a bit of skill. At the top level though, Meta Knight simply has too many tools with his great recovery, camping/wall of pain, good grab game/tech chase, and very short animation times on basically all of his tilts and aerials. His weakness is supposed to be bad smashes and finishes, but then he has his up B

[@mollup1071]

Pichu? He's really really good, but imo he's nowhere NEAR prepatch diddy kong.

[@plantrulz223]

Or n64 puff. Or Ultimate Snake. Or Melee Ice climbers. Or (insert pretty much any top tier from one of the past smash games)

[@samp_txt]

Rulx well less so n64 puff and more so n64 Pikachu or Kirby

[@mr.l8362]

Rulx ultimate ...... snake....... broken?

[@WMDistraction]

Rulx, you have a really weird perception of “broken.” 64 Puff is mid-tier. Melee ICs were propped up purely by wobble, which was almost impossible to set up against high-level opponents. Ultimate Snake is only good if you have godlike control.

[@AMnotQ]

WMDistraction unless you’re Westballs. Wobbled 11 times in a single set by Army. What a fucking match.

[@xanerhoden3867]

Wait wait. So peach and pichu are more broken then s4 pre patch diddy?.....k

[@nbriggy]

yoshi derp bro... lightning loops

[@flint9064]

I can see peach, can’t see pichu at all

[@jaybarbrey6511]

Peach. Yes diddy no

[@nemnem9681]

neither of them are broke, its like he saw some pro dominate with a character a few times and called it broke?!!

[@Mike-sp7zv]

That's where I stopped the video

[@emperorx2530]

The words every brawl player fears.... *FIGHT ME*

[@Fuzzy24752]

COME

[@ksmoove12able]

Meta Knight

[@randomcommenter6498]

Emperor X come back when you can put up a fight.

[@xxbaggedmilkxx6427]

AhEm *c o m e*

[@dors2519]

Bro that just gave me goosebumps🥴

[@JonathanMartinez-og6mq]

King Dedede broke Smash by being too sexy

[@invaderguy78]

Mr. Blue Sky He got a monster to clobber that there roster

[@phanterratic]

@@invaderguy78 the monster was meta knight

[@shino1300]

That was bayonetta

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

Original joke. You won the most clever joke award on the internet. Here, have a reddit gold while you are at it.

[@pockylovingranger]

Pffffft

[@Solereaper21]

I think this is way too early to say if anyone is broken in ultimate. You have to give people a chance to get use to the meta and learn to deal with it

[@dankmop]

Ever hear of ganondorf

[@internetguy7319]

Grimdrome hello fellow pmd lover

[@HakuzaPK]

The Meta is far enough along. It’s been 3 months how much tins do people need fam

[@Quackra]

@@dankmop Ever hear of how bad connections don't make a good case for determining how broken a character is?

[@Quackra]

@TheBoltMaster Pichu isn't as insane as the pre-patch Smash 4 characters as he actually struggles against swordsman, especially Cloud or Ike. Peach in Ultimate isn't that dominate either. So, what it comes out to is that we haven't played the game enough to say for certain.

[@calvin3944]

Grandpa? What was your greatest fear? Child, let me show you something... *hoo hah*

[@quasar2880]

oh god oh fuck

[@AMnotQ]

“HOOOO HAAAAAH” - Dunkey, in the process of beating Sky in Smash

[@deron991]

Remember when Hungrybox rage quit midgame because the crowd was cheering Hoo hah?

[@engineerheavy1344]

Shawn Leaf lol no but I want to see

[@lightbrand_]

Son, I know you are used to Kirby sucking in Smash... but in the old days, he actually had pretty large feet...

[@lerbyn]

pre nerf diddy should be higher

[@regularusername5516]

Pre nerf Diddy was equal to Bayo

[@MicroCheese64]

HOO HAH

[@megascizor8275]

Arigato, gyro

[@DManG97]

Ruthieal no it was not lmao

[@noahjp7090]

@@PakistanDefenseForum that's a bit much, but yeah he was busted.

[@surumeman7195]

I think it was a bit early to say ultimate broken characters. We haven't seen a single character dominating tournaments. Edit: single character means a character dominating tournaments at the point where it's "pick or lose" because of the character's strength. No meta can be defined in few months. Remember when people said Inkling is the best character? She's still top tier but where is her tournament results?

[@schroonsjozef]

this

[@ellie_shrug]

If anything Wolf should be in the "broken" list, doesn't he have the most wins overall?

[@willmalony7712]

peach and snake are

[@ellie_shrug]

@@willmalony7712 peach is really good at high skill. Snake has an infinite recovery, but can be easily gimped while doing it, or destroyed after landing. Snake does have a lot of projectiles, but and Star Fox character, or anyone with a reflect can easily deal with him.

[@regularusername5516]

Every single character in ultimate has strengths and weaknesses. Broken is when their strengths can easily shield their weaknesses. But in ultimate, every character has at least five counter plays who are strong. It's like rock paper scissors. It's a circle where one is strong to another. Broken is rock paper shotgun

[@dasheiten]

Let's be honest, we all knew Brawl Meta Knight was gonna be number 1.

[@matthewmea3566]

All you have to do to win is hold A

[@mythoughtsexactly2145]

The new Rcc_Albino if a character can fly all he wants with tremendous recovery and kill power, of course it would be Brawl Meta knight, though Smash 4 Bayo is 2nd

[@OkairMcLaren]

Ye, cuz they didn't use bayo at her best

[@zippleboo7254]

@@OkairMcLaren lol no. Meta Knight was uncontested the entirety of Brawl and destroyed every matchup. The only matchup considered slightly even was Pikachu I believe. Bayo, still being broken, didnt like some matchups. Plus, being able to have the best recovery ever in a smash game, while being able to kill off of nearly any move and combo off of any move while having nearly no start up or endlag is just insane. Not to mention his low profile and amazing disadvantage state.

[@OkairMcLaren]

@@zippleboo7254 bayo wasn't even nowhere near being fully explored when she was just released so...

[@endy7630]

lol pre-patch diddy kong below Pichu. Sounds like these guys haven't done their research...

[@Quackra]

Exactly, pre-patch Diddy was pretty stupid. Also, Fox should barely make this list as he is overated even by most Melee players. He shouldn't be SS tier as he can be beaten easier than people make it out to be. Falco has a better matchup spread for the mid tiers and does almost as well as Fox against the top tiers. Marth is like this as well.

[@jc-pi9lf]

hey they have done years of research...........(sorry)

[@cesarTorres-lj1df]

@Hemanth kamana kill a lot of his early kill confirms

[@CrackshotSSB]

Agreed

[@lukie117]

Yeah top 3 should be 1. Bayonetta 2. Pre patch diddy's 3. Meta. TR4SH was the most imbalanced game ever.

[@MatMart]

I agree with a lot of the stuff here but prepatch Diddy should’ve been higher than the ultimate character. Ultimate really has no “broken” characters imo but it does have debateable number one characters. Peach is probably the best character in ultimate but not broken. Pichu should not be on this list. The way I see it right now Pichu is barely top 10

[@spikespiegel1492]

We're only a month into ultimate and already have a year's worth of pichu highlights. There isn't even that many Pichu top players. Compared to the likes of ICs and Bayonetta who will absolutely kill you in one move(leading into inescapable combo or chain grab), Pichu is only one or two notches below that. You will definitely take 50% from getting hit once by Pichu. 80% if it's Void piloting. With no changes, in a year, it's not too far fetched to imagine a Pichu top player consistently getting death strings off.

[@malmasterson3890]

@@spikespiegel1492 It's not to hard to imagine that the reason people are getting those strings is because the game is still new and they haven't adjusted to escaping a returning characters combo game. I think he'll be in about the same spot in a year's time, ofc depending on patch changes.

[@perryb.2732]

Pichu isn't broken but definitely top 10

[@ShadMuffin]

@@spikespiegel1492 Pichu isn't even close to unga bunga when it dies at 40%

[@HeruCSGO]

@@ShadMuffin ikr

[@astral.realm_]

Nobody from ultimate deserves to be on this list

[@kaifulbright5241]

Honestly he probably just needed a few fillers so he just put in the two strongest characters in ultimate

[@astral.realm_]

Kai Fulbright probably

[@astral.realm_]

Emanuel Garcia-Aniceto if you know how to get around the cheese he’s not that bad. Besides only trash players play him so once you learn how to deal with the gimmicks theres really no threat. Also yeah right back at you my guy

[@djandjb1]

@@astral.realm_ but someone whose actually good can still make K.rool scary. The power of his armor alone means he's being slept on if you don't consider him a legit threat

[@lemingnguyen7425]

yay that character right

[@goodname7660]

Cloud > Ice Climbers? Pichu and Peach > Pre-patch Diddy? Seems Legit Edit: Basically no character in Ultimate is broken. *shuns Hero into corner*

[@vannoah]

doubles Cloud is basically ice climbers

[@LuuneTheMoon]

Pikachu > fox in melee? Oh well why not

[@zebra1441]

Doubles cloud So yes Pichu I admit is a little presumptious

[@Professional-Idi0t]

@@LuuneTheMoon ehhh disagree. In melee fox had problems, pikachu didnt in yhe original

[@cael3996]

Brawl ICs should have been 2nd

[@memeburgler187]

Meta Knight isn't a character, he's THE character.

[@rydawvesmusic5270]

3:53 "Brawl Granf Finale"

[@caelan3373]

I noticed that first time!

[@Bog2901]

just waiting for the zero reaction video to this

[@firebal6129]

XD Yes XD

[@alexescobar776]

It's actually a pretty fair list, except for the ultimate characters

[@datsalilee9072]

Mayhem Level agreed

[@matthewmazzatto8003]

@@alexescobar776 He might complain about Ice Climbers being too low, but besides that, this list from 1-7 is quite solid. Just ignore the Ultimate characters and it's about how most people would rank the cast. Throw in Puff from Melee at 9th and Olimar from Brawl at 10th as replacements for Peach and Pichu.

[@TheFantasticWarrior]

"Oh hell no"

[@SolarBeam04]

*PLANT JOINED THE CHAT*

[@alebeerzy1890]

Plant is doo doo tho

[@natefroggy3626]

Plant has to be reworked completely to actually become a top tier

[@JX2209]

The plant has been banned from the Chat for being mid-tier

[@FireSonicYT]

plant is still no top tier

[@djandjb1]

@@natefroggy3626 not really, a bit more speed and less end lag on his aerials would be all he needs

[@bungholethrombosis]

You wanna know what’s broken? Roy’s hitboxes in melee

[@NoShayminFeeding]

I love the roy zone

[@PrGibus]

*Melee

[@Fuduwahluz]

roy is a pasta chef with noodle hitboxes and fiery marinara

[@ethanchen5784]

remember, a skilled roy can beat any fox

[@TheIceManSSB2001]

"Broken but in the sense that his hitboxes don't work right" -Introspective

[@fluffymuffin_456]

The problem with smash ultimate is not that there’s extremely broken high tiers, but extremely underpowered low tiers

[@DoctorKidemonas]

Agreed. Play smashdown, it becomes immediately apparent.

[@BunnyOnASnuman]

Yea no. Smash ultimate is very well balanced. The low tiers aren't "extremely underpowered" like the other games (Melee Roy and Pichu, Brawl Ganondorf...)

[@elysiaherscherrofhuman2508]

@@BunnyOnASnuman Bayo and rosalina would like to talk to you.

[@BunnyOnASnuman]

@@elysiaherscherrofhuman2508 they're high tier wtf

[@elysiaherscherrofhuman2508]

@@BunnyOnASnuman?? Bayo in smash Ultimate? High tier? She is high low tier at least.

[@leonardomorales4154]

That ZeRo’s clip when we won EVO was Diddy Kong post patch, no pre patch

[@kenzo2977]

Who would win: A near balanced character roster vs. One witchy boi

[@Delta225]

*gurl

[@flint9064]

Grill*

[@PlasmaPea04]

*borb

[@JS-ne2sd]

Neither. The community ruined it all.

[@ace-uk7mw]

Did u just assumed bayo’s gender

[@Essey001]

1. Brawl Meta Knight 2. Smash 4 Bayonetta 3. Brawl Ice Climbers 4. Smash 4 Pre-patch Diddy 5. Smash 4 Cloud (in doubles) 6. Smash 64 Pika I think the list stops there. Huge drop off in brokenness from there, even to melee Fox.

[@TheYoungOne96]

Lol yea the people who made the video quite clearly know little about Melee or Ultimate. I can't believe they tried to say any Ultimate characters are seriously broken when the game has been out for TWO MONTHS and there have been PLENTY of other characters going toe to toe with Pichu and Peach.

[@Gugnar678]

You are right except for the fox part, he should be number 3

[@Lampaluile]

@@Gugnar678 lol fox isn't top 5 most broken what do you mean, jiggs is a lot more broken

[@TheYoungOne96]

@@Gugnar678 Lol no.

[@kkokay4]

@@Gugnar678 you know nothing about melee if you think fox is broken. He can be at most 10 on this list

[@TransparentEclipse]

Ah Meta knight. Brawl was the game that got me into smash and meta knight was my favorite character, couldn’t figure out why everyone hated him, then I realized it’s bc he’s op

[@WaiGee_]

this list should have been 5 characters and it should have been 1. Brawl Meta Knight 2. Smash4 Bayonetta 3. Brawl Ice Climbers 4. Smash4 Cloud (Doubles) 5. Smash4 Pre-patch Diddy i can never see melee fox and 64 pika on here, they arent that oppressive compared to these 5

[@siem_jacobsicantanymore]

100% agreed

[@siem_jacobsicantanymore]

Also these have a lot less extreme weaknesses because pika and fox do have glaring weaknesses

[@PepeSilvia01]

Are u kidding me.....

[@WaiGee_]

​@@PepeSilvia01 I am quite serious, even after all these years. All the above characters force you to either play the same character you're fighting or use the character that is one place above them. The disadvantage is THAT big. You can't say the same for Fox. Fox is the character that gets punished the hardest in the entire game, which in turn makes it possible for any other character to either do good damage or a kill combo. 64 Pika, because of the engine and hitstun of the game, can also be combo'd for good damage or killed out right. Yes both of these characters have a their privileges, but they don't make it oppressive for other characters like Bayonetta and MK do.

[@WaiGee_]

@Julio Paulino fair, doubles cloud was absolutely busted but even in singles a lot of people counter picked cloud ... with another cloud. And that's usually a pretty crimson sign something is wrong.

[@anonymouscucumbers9752]

I wouldn’t call Meta Knight broken. I’d rather call him the cause of my family not wanting to play SSBB with me because they don’t know how broken he is. I don’t want them to find out.

[@mb1sqn033]

The cause of a relationship crisis

[@oler7750]

i think inkling was pretty op in 64

[@orlie1819]

Vaun Nah, Ridley was more broken in Melee.

[@kaworunagisa3391]

Omegxx r/WooOoSh i’M So fUNnY

[@Marc-rw3dd]

Nah, waluigi is most broken in all smash games

[@clipchimp7406]

No, Green Mario was broken in Streetfighter V, tf y'all talking about.

[@thatoneguywhoowns2cats704]

Wtf are you talking about , K. rool was broken in Brawl

[@lumdagoat]

I'm pretty sure that clip of ZeRo winning EVO was after patch

[@onizuka2307]

It was

[@SeriousStriker]

Yeah this video is trash and has done no research.

[@pancho66207]

@@SeriousStriker Well, what else could we expect from a channel that calls itself "gamer"?

[@namkwal]

@@SeriousStriker they also did it for money.

[@chesterzz10]

Yeah it is, I remember everyone impressed with Zero winning that EVO after having Diddy considerably nerfed. This video sucks.

[@alexandraadames4412]

Inb4 years of reasearch joke

[@kenzo2977]

dude i got decades of research

[@alexandraadames4412]

Blightzy then why youre not in the top?

[@kenzo2977]

@@alexandraadames4412 we got these pros with centuries of research, i could never make it to the top.

[@alexandraadames4412]

Blightzy true true

[@alebeerzy1890]

@@alexandraadames4412 I have a million years worth of research

[@istolechicken1363]

I always used meta knight, I didn’t even know he was overpowered

[@TheGraduates1]

I remember my college held a not serious tournament and this one kid comes in and just plays Brawl Meta Knight and just destroyed everyone. Turns out the kid was a semi pro or something I heard

[@SearedBite]

i wouldnt put anyone from ultimate on here honestly, im not even convinced that pichu is top tier yet let alone broken

[@AgentOrange502]

Definitely top tier. Insane neutral. Really good punish game (if you're as good as void with the back air into up tilt), lots of kill confirms, a broken recovery, ftilt is amazing. Not broken but definitely top tier

[@regularusername5516]

@@AgentOrange502 small hitbox = small shield and small damage, he is powerful if you can overcome his weaknesses, high tier, definitely

[@AgentOrange502]

@@regularusername5516 agreed. Also I think you mean hurt boxes. Hit boxes do damage lol

[@mr.l8362]

Regular Username small damage? Have u ever seen a pichu before lol? 80% combos and killing at 60% is small damage?

[@AgentOrange502]

@@mr.l8362 he literally said hes powerful. Pichu does have some weak moves like nair

[@davidle0]

Failed to mention/research that Bayonetta was considered to be banned from tournaments a few weeks before her nerfs.I think she got banned from tournaments in Spain.

[@Kazzerss_]

Exactly

[@flint9064]

Yeah Spain tried to ban her Spain tries to ban anything that seems a little broken to be fair tho

[@JX2209]

In Chicago they banned Her

[@thatoneguywhoowns2cats704]

That still doesn't mean she deserves #1 spot of course

[@thatoneguywhoowns2cats704]

Oh I did too And I used to main him offline

[@fable23]

You cannot put Ultimate characters on this list yet, we just don't have the results. A character isn't broken to me until they dominate the meta in some way, and neither Pichu nor Peach has done that yet.

[@thorodinson8967]

Pichu has not done this yet but he is close ... Very close .. his air combo is nearly impossible to fight against , gard against even Dodge against .

[@derogatory1853]

it's only a matter of time lol no way should it be higher than pre patch diddy but potentially.. man oh man.

[@user-we9pt4xg4j]

Have you seen the things Peach is capable of? Her comboes are beyond insane with the added bonus of edge gaurding

[@sariety7304]

CLOUD

[@RipCCCord]

@@sariety7304 ultimate cloud? Or teaming smash 4 clouds.

[@vexka1066]

imagine actually making a video 9:59 long in 2019 :o big respect!

[@dankmeme8s]

TheScore: ahh finally I can finish this video Steve: there is another

[@SeriousStriker]

Steve is not broken/

[@tjmatteini7195]

Pichu>pre patch diddy?

[@kpbevan_904]

That’s how Mafia works

[@the_bookworm8281]

It is too early to put Ultimate characters in this list, especially since there are much more busted characters to choose from. Peach/Daisy is amazing, but isn't dominating anything, and Pichu, imo, is too big of a double-edged sword to be a consistent contender in competitive play. Pre-patch Diddy and Brawl ICs should be higher. Having Bayo combos that randomly KO you is nutty, but how about having ICs' inescapable guaranteed death from one grab.

[@shieldlesscap6124]

I don’t think it’s safe to put anyone from Ultimate on this list tbh, and you’re acting like Ultimate Pichu doesn’t have any major weaknesses to make up for its strength. Oh, and your footage of Diddy was post-patch lmao

[@Quackra]

That is funny to hear that it was post patch. I honestly agree as Pichu struggles with swordsman. Also, why is Fox so high? He actually isn't that crazy when you get into Melee and then compare him to pre-patch Smash 4 characters or Brawl top tiers.

[@Quackra]

@Hussein Rizk Do you play Melee? If not, then your word doesn't mean shit.

[@Retr0_ADHD]

@@Quackra He IS broken, and you don't really need to actually play the game to know he is. His shine comes out in one frame, which is instantly. He has a good recovery, which doesn't matter since you have a broken ass combo game, and if you look at the official tier list, (The only tier list I'd use personally cause it's accurate.) He's SS tier, which means he's pretty much the best charcater in the game. But even though I think Fox is broken he isn't the most broken character since Brawl Mk exists, but Fox is still broken. In fact you can ask any other person who's played Melee and it'll rarely be anyone who says he isn't. Plus alot of people don't even play Melee and know this, and I could write a 30 minute reading on why he's broken using smash data itself, but that's why other KZbin videos exist.

[@Quackra]

@@Retr0_ADHD Duck Hunt's can is frame one and he isn't good. Pichu and Pikachu's thunder comes out frame one and no one really complains about that. Also, he doesn't belong in SS as he goes pretty even with Falco, Marth, Peach and to a recent extent Puff as there are at least 3-5 in the top 100 currently. I hear people complain about Puff and not wanting to switch meaning that Puff is debatably within the top 3 of Melee. Having a good combo game doesn't always mean the character is good as they could do little to no damage in some cases. However, Melee Fox does do good damage with his good combo game for Melee standards. Another thing that matters is results of players with other characters besides just Fox, looking at the reason of why Fox is the most played it stems from mostly one character, Puff to be specific. On top of it Leffen himself has said that Puff is the second best in the game, even if I think she is third at best. Hbox also has many results with first place with Puff, enough for me to just straight up disagree with that bad tier list on smashboards with Fox in SS. Axe himself also got 2nd at Genesis 6, and he plays mostly Pikachu. In the top 10 only Half the players play fox now, and Leffen is the only solo Fox in it. Out of the current top 100 less than half of the players play Fox as well, the actual amount being 38 total, most of them are not even solo Fox players. On top of that Falco is almost has quite a few reps as well with Marth also being basically just as well represented. Typically representation would not matter on how good a character is when talking about the top 5, unless the roster is Smash 64 roster. Though I can say Smash 64 Pikachu is not less broken than Melee Fox as Pikachu in 64 is nearly as bad or worse than Bayonetta, probably is less broken than Bayo overall. Fox himself is broken than people like to say that haven't played Melee not saying he 100% isn't. Though I have played and watched people play Melee and Fox has more weaknesses than people like to think. His recovery is also good in more of a theoretical stance, in reallity it is pretty good minus the fact that anyone can just grab ledge and if you were going for it you die. But that honestly is all recoveries in Melee kind of had a problem with in general. Though a benefit that Fox has is that he did have the ability to recover from 360 different angles which is one of the reasons his recovery wasn't bad in that game. However, if you hit Fox out of his up b before he starts moving in a direction completely, he just straight up dies like Cloud in Smash 4. On top of it his side b puts him in to free fall in Melee making recovering to stage actually harder than most people actually think. If that alone doesn't sound bad then the fact that his fall speed gets him chain grabbed by Pichu from 0 to 60 easily on FD. Pikachu can chain grab him as well because of this. Pichu in fact has some easy combos on Fox just because of this allowing him to get him to 80. Pichu will sadly be doing like 2 or 3 damage a hit because up air does literally no damage. Puff can kill Fox at 0 as well, and it is a true combo at early percents. Fox's kill power seems good due to his higher damage output, but in reallity it is actually average or slightly above average. This is kind of why I think he isn't as broken as people like to make him out to be.

[@Retr0_ADHD]

@@Quackra Now that I think about it you're right, I don't know why I overlooked his flaws and just pointed out the things everyone else complains about. And now that I think about it I'm pretty sure he isn't that bad compared to what the other characters can do either. (But I do know the real character who should take his spot are Melee Ice Climbers, since whenever someone mains them it's either wobble to a high percentage and throw, or just flat out use a glitch. And I don't think those glithes I mentioned are banned from tournaments. Maybe they aren't, I don't really know but I think isn't from what I've seen from tournaments that I've seen. And no, they weren't your usual barely known tournaments, they were in fact well known tournaments. But again, I don't know. And there is no way I'm taking back that Ice Climbers aren't broken, they really are.) So at this point I can't really say that he's *That* broken like most people including me say he is. And if anything I think that other characters should take his place, and I'm sure they have way less flaws than him with more than overpowered little moves (Like Marth with his unnecessarily large grab range, his Chaim grabbing and his combo game. Or Jigglypuff and her rest that could most likely will at like 35%.) So that you do mention it he isn't all that broken, and again, there are characters who have more pros than cons, and I'm pretty sure he has plenty of cons that I've let fly over my head when watching a tournament. So yeah, I guess he isn't as broken as it seems anymore. Especially with your reasoning and facts over mines. (And I kinda feel a little dumb for overlooking ALOT of stuff you've pointed out that was right in front of me.)

[@roxascheesecake7928]

IMO 1. Meta Knight (brawl) (obviously) 2. Pre-patch bayo (4) 3. pre-patch sheik (4) 4. Pikachu (64) 5. Pre patch Diddy (4) 6. Cloud (4) 7.kirby (64) 8. Fox (melee) 9.IC’s (Brawl) 10. Pre patch olimar (ultimate)

[@ScapePlayer]

Pretty good list

[@mb1sqn033]

Fox should not be on here

[@simitotito4515]

I mean , he has META in his name after all.

[@FiruNazgulio]

One of the melee fox clips was made using a hacked version of the game that allows Turbo Mode, aka being able to cancel any attack into anything. Melee fox is not as fast as shown on that clip.

[@equinox3861]

Good catch.

[@Nihyre]

I was about to say. Melee is fast but not like that.

[@carter.valentine]

sorry man not turbo, just tas with really well done sdi. if you slow the clip down they never cancel a move into another like you would in turbo, they just have really specific sdi and are constantly trading hits. still not legit fox play, but not a hacked game.

[@equinox3861]

@@carter.valentine TAS is also using a hacked game.

[@carter.valentine]

@@equinox3861 actually false sorry homie. I have done a few tas projects and despite having to use an emulator to do them, using a vanilla game iso is almost always standard unless it is for some mod showcase video or something. TAS =/= hacking, just emulator tools which allow you to save and load gamestates which inject nothing into the code of the game itself.

[@-U__U-]

I thought this was an ign list because they don't know shit about games. But I was wrong

[@niconarotic5223]

Most broken character in Smash?!? The Smash Bros Ultimate servers, killing every character and game in seconds...

[@xavibun]

Fix your internet lol

[@xavibun]

@Thomandy i agree that Nintendo's netcode sucks though

[@kpbevan_904]

XaviSylv And yet oddly enough it only lags against some people and other times I have perfect matches in terms of connection so I don’t think it has anything to do with my internet, just the regions as well as others internet. You haven’t experienced true terror till you play against a Yoshi with lag spikes.

[@cremudgenguy2132]

stil lag w OP internet smash gamez allways hav sux net code cuz ninty duznt kno abt internets

[@cremudgenguy2132]

xcept MK8 haz gud on line mode

[@Kaybytheway4]

I played metta knight when he wasn't nerfed, and he's still my main to this day.

[@lumiknightwithawrench2946]

Brawl Meta Knight is a force to be reckoned with, everyone knows that. Question is, Why tho? I assume its because Kirby being bottom tier in Melee and MK's Trophy in the same game (SO MANY errors in said trophy its not funny)

[@lapplandkun9273]

what he said, broken recovery, good frame data on all his moves, and he's fast.

[@browk2512]

Pichu is definitely high tier, but I wouldn't say he's broken at all.

[@threeruneblade]

Wouldn’t be so sure. Just wait till someone really good picks him up

[@browk2512]

A lot of people who are really good have picked him up. Trust me, he's really good, but he isn't broken or even top tier.

[@bobfake3831]

Not even close to being broken, same for peach

[@lepyrolink182]

Any tall character has trouble against Pichu. You can't hit him with jab, some tilts miss him and air combos are way too hard to land because he is so small. And his air game is insane. There is no way to escape his combos at all.

[@Quackra]

@@lepyrolink182 Wrong, you can escape some of his combos including lightning loops. As much as you hate hearing this just SDI. Also, use LSI and learn to DI better. You will notice that only about half of Pichu's combos are actually true at that point and that Thunder is not that threatening on stage.

[@narutoushiwa1046]

How can you rate Peach and Pichu in ssbu?! It's not even 2 month in and we only got 1 big patch lmao

[@aidanh7527]

naruto ushiwa10 ultimate is balanced enough were I don't think there are going to be any broken characters except maybe dlc when that comes out

[@flashburn117]

Lot of scrub mentality reasoning fueling this list.

[@brdwthacgr2699]

someone had to say it lmao

[@kkokay4]

"fox has the highest skill ceiling and therefore in theory is the best." This dude literally said fox is hard af therefore broken. LUL

[@randomcommenter6498]

If Brawl Meta Knight is not number one...

[@arixonanoir462]

0:01 Me: NUMBER ONE, META KNIGHT BRAWL

[@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong]

If brawl meta knight was in ultimate he would one shot galeem and dharkon

[@clipchimp7406]

Brawl MK shouldve been the final boss of World of Light.

[@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong]

indeed

[@thatoneguywhoowns2cats704]

On hard mode.

[@IDK-qq7ct]

The Elite With A Energy Sword no every single broken character is the finale boss

[@pelucahagrid9846]

Like for every soul pre patched bayonetta has taken......

[@raiyano7436]

Video: *Claims fox is broken* Me: *Flashes back to the video of a pikachu main 4 stocking a fox main in under a minute in a tournament at EVO*

[@xtensioncordtv1969]

ESAM?

[@quadfoil]

I never really cared about them being broken. I’m just glad they’re all playable characters

[@intervalgaming6196]

Dude, no one is broken in ultimate. I can name 10 characters from the previous games that were broken. Kirby/pikachu in ssb64 Fox, icies in melee Icies and meta knight in brawl Pre-patch sheik/diddy. Bayo/cloud

[@felipenavarro5340]

@Fwuffycodbunny correction they were more broken on melee than brawl they had endless chain grabs

[@kwayke9]

Peach is broken in Ultimate imo. Not super ridiculous but float cancels bypassing the short hop damage penalty make her pretty busted. Also, turnips hit harder than the moon

[@prl4122]

Esteban Pena fox is not broken tho, I get the memes but please actually play the game before you make judgements. If fox was that good he’d be winning everything

[@IlCremo]

KNOW MY POWER!

[@digino24]

gian cremo nice meta knight final smash reference, as a MK main I KNOW that phrase well

[@Marc-rw3dd]

Meta Knight has some of my favorite quotes

[@NostalgiaConnoisseur]

In the words of Fox McCloud.. *HOYA!!!*

[@juanca12th]

*HIIIIYAAA!!!*

[@megamilo95]

*TOIYAHH!!*

[@Star-jz3ls]

*Reflect Sound*

[@DoctorKidemonas]

FIRE

[@sadmeme668]

Melee Kirby Haha get it

[@malmasterson3890]

Ultimate Kirby lmao

[@SearedBite]

lol i get it its cause he sucks

[@bungholethrombosis]

He’s broken, in a bad way

[@darienmiller1032]

He's been broken four games in a row now 😭😭😭

[@smashssf2_ssbc15]

Triple R...

[@LARAUJO_0]

Before this even starts, obvious prediction: Brawl Meta Knight, U Bayonetta, U Diddy Kong, Melee Fox, 64 Pikachu, 64 Kirby, Melee Falco, U Sheik, U Zerosuit Samus, Ultimate Peach/Daisy

[@tcclevertoo]

LARAUJO The Funny part is even they should be right their not

[@BUSHOnYouTube]

6:18 **laughs in HungryBox**

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

*laughs in marth*

[@BUSHOnYouTube]

@@NickNick-xv6wv *laughs in why are you replying to this comment a year later haha*

[@NickNick-xv6wv]

@@BUSHOnKZbin *Laughs in why not*

[@BUSHOnYouTube]

@@NickNick-xv6wv meow

[@TheRagnus]

I guess you've never seen a pro Yoshikage Kir- I mean Snake player in Ultimate.

[@AgentOrange502]

Yo

[@ballsofsalsa01]

Ally

[@lyncario5515]

C4 has no weakness.

[@stale_cheeto]

Bites za dusto

[@xdonovan7031]

Of course he beated greninja, he's an electric type

[@Cris-gw6dj]

OH lol

[@pikaace]

I actually didn’t know that S64 Pikachu’s Thunder (down B) didn’t have a height limit like it does today, and as a Pikachu main, good LORD I can easily imagine how unfair that was back then

[@petermeagher9375]

1: meta knight (you know where) 2: icies (melee) 3: beyonetta (smash 4) 4: jiggly (melee) (stalling and b-air walls) 5:pikachu (og smash) 6: Diddy dong (brawl) 7: olimar (brawl) (6 pikman) 8: Kirby (og smash) 9: fox (melee) (shines) 10: Lucina (ultimate)

[@willdg8108]

Peter Meagher 2 fox melee Diddy sm4sh 10 pichu ultimate

[@MAlru005]

This man really put icies above bayo and jigglypuff above melee fox? And lucina in ult as top 10 most broken?? Wtff

[@Andy-qr3hu]

Seeing Meta Knight at No .1 gave me severe PTSD from all those 3 stocks he got on me

[@Rulerof2006]

I don’t know about melee fox being so high up. Yes he is a strong character and a lot of people pick him, but with all of his strengths he also has his weaknesses and they’re pretty bad ones too. Fox is combo fodder, and many players have taken down top level foxes with lower tier characters. Melee fox takes an insane amount of skill to get to a level where he is considered broken which is why I don’t feel like he deserves a spot on the list. They should’ve put in melee ice climbers in instead. You can literally get four grabs and nothing else to win the game, plus they have a glitch that can freeze the opponent in place. That move is even banned from use. A broken character should be one that can be the most easily exploited like bayo or Diddy, not the character with the highest skill ceiling.

[@tpbvirusofficial6676]

Yeah but theres a reason why hes so good. A perfectly played Fox vs any other perfectly played character Fox will always win. Thats why hes so good. The fact that his only weakness is human error and not anything else is absurd.

[@Rulerof2006]

To argue that a character is broken because when they are played “perfectly” they beat everyone else is absurd. No one can play perfectly in melee, it’s just not humanly possible so it shouldn’t even be an argument. Even if people could play a character perfectly, Marth outrages fox by a wide margin and can deal with him before he even gets close. If Marth is played perfectly then he can destroy anyone. There are many characters that when played “perfectly” can chain grab to death. Pikachu can chain grab fox to death, ice climbers can wobble literally any character infinitely. Yes fox is the best character, but that’s natural for a fighting game to have one that stands out as the strongest, but he is by no means broken.

[@poopoo7396]

Lando The White sir, the list says “broken” and not “humanly possible”

[@Rulerof2006]

You missed the point. My argument was that you can’t consider someone broken when to exploit them you have to play beyond a human level. With that logic, pretty much every character in melee could be considered in some respects broken. Perfect computers aren’t used to play smash, humans are, so when deciding on which characters are strong, weak, broken, viable etc. we have to use criteria based on human levels of ability and proficiency, not artificial, computer based criteria.

[@Blossom_Nova]

Just because Fox is technically demanding doesn't mean he isn't broken. He invalidates more than half the cast, is the most dominant character in the meta by far, etc. Fox is cool, Fox is hard to play, and good Fox players deserve respect, but that doesn't mean he isn't fucking busted lmao

[@Mr__Jack]

Good lord I came here to comment immediately after seeing Pichu above Diddy. Looks like whoever made this got bodied by a Pichu online

[@kkokay4]

no one plays pichu online tho cuz hes garbo on that lag

[@averageellingtonenjoyer]

I like your pfp

[@nate9078]

TOP 10 MOST POWERFUL SMASH CHARACTERS RELATIVE TO THE OTHER CHARACTERS IN THEIR GAME 1. BRAWL Meta Knight SS (busted beyond comprehension) 2. S4 Bayonetta S (broken) 3. S4 Pre-patch Diddy 4. BRAWL Ice Climbers A (this and below is how good top tiers should be) 5. S4 Cloud 6. 64 Pikachu 7. Melee Fox B (balanced) 8. Melee Jigglypuff 9. Melee Marth C (balanced) 10. 64 Kirby

[@cocoqtpi]

melee icies more broken than melee fox

[@salj.5459]

This list is perfect

[@milobedford5423]

I was a bayo main in smash 4. I didn't even know she was broken or who she was. All I can say is that she is a really fun character to play still, even in ult

[@colt4531]

How is ultimate peach and pichu above smash 4 Diddy Kong?!!?!?!?

[@DeletedTaters001]

Sub feed says 10:00 long, video player says 9:59, what is it really? Are you getting that extra ad monies?

[@justforlawlsandtrolls]

No. You cannot tell us to smash that like button and it won't be cringe. It's still cringy

[@autumn4442]

It's more so, if anything.

[@jakeystarsuper]

Cringe is such an overrated word. Its not that bad

[@paulcastillo1880]

*_Cough_* Melee Marth *_Cough cough_*

[@username-ge7xe]

Bro9650 yup

[@Joah1990]

Marth vs falco though... The most entertaining matchup.

[@isabelleismysoulmate7847]

Thank you. Retards who say Fox is broken clearly never played the game. The most dominant melee players have always been Marth mains (Ken, M2K, PPMD)

[@pepkoko2229]

P U F F

[@user-vp9ry3km2c]

@@isabelleismysoulmate7847 nah fox still broken

[@mmeister_5315]

*THE HERO* will soon like to know your location.

[@snooticus4988]

He’s not broken

[@souporscooper6051]

He's not broken

[@mmeister_5315]

soup soup y’all I realized this was a “Ban hero” joke made before the character was released

[@souporscooper6051]

@@mmeister_5315 He's not broken

[@souporscooper6051]

@@mmeister_5315 sorry

[@bonjour7209]

Everybody that knows brawl knew Meta knight would be #1

[@jrad8094]

THE VIDEO ISN"T 10 MINUTES! (it's 9:59).

[@akif2476]

Me: watch the whole video and Realized that king k rool is not In the list* King k. Rool: I'm a joke to you

[@pktr3964]

*visible confusion*

[@Coconut_Prrson]

Just becouse a character is good it doesn't mean its broken. Ex: meele fox

[@maxcrss2845]

Except he is broken. There’s a reason he consistently stands at the top of all melee tier lists.

[@JigAtTheFuneral]

There's a reason Meta was in a tier of his own...

[@prl4122]

Maxcrss fox hasn’t even won a tournament in months tho, and he gets fucked by almost every other character jay takes him to final destination

[@verde7595]

@@prl4122 Fox hasn't won in months because of Hungrybox and Hungrybox alone.

[@samgrinberg1898]

verde I didn’t know wizzy, Axe, or mango (played falco at goml) were hbox

[@malareon]

my top 10 list of the most op smash characters 10. snake (brawl) 9. olimar (brawl) 8. pikachu (smash 64) 7. diddy kong (brawl) 6. fox (melee) 5. diddy kong (1.0.0 smash 4) 4. mii brawler small (Smash 4 Evo 2015 ruleset) 3. bayonetta (1.1.5 smash 4) 2. ice climbers (brawl) 1. meta knight (brawl pre ledge grab limit)

[@ImCookieSparx]

Brawl meta knight in my opinion is the most BROKEN move yet. Finally somebody agreed with me other then melee fox.

[@PearoIGuess]

The cloud clip reminds me of WOMBO COMBO

[@xOmniCloudx]

Dat aint Falco!

[@maplemoht]

By your logic, most of the time, good character = broken

[@joelnordlander7526]

I think Brawls snake is kinda OP and shoud be 10 ore somthing

[@Swillo]

There shouldn't be a single character in Ultimate in this list.

[@tristanpowell85]

I don't know, I think the frog from Mario odyssey in brawl and Inkling in 64 were pretty powerful.

[@zakgray9793]

10: Ditty Kong 9:Pichu 8:Princess Peach 7:ice climbers 6:Kirby 5:cloud 4:fox 3:pikachu 2:bayonetta 1:meta knight

[@josephcarrell]

Hero: Hold my beer

[@doingyourdad105]

Hmm, Peach can get number 8 but Daisy, her exact clone with nothing but visual differences, is not mentioned. Ok

[@nimroddafny7125]

Treating Peach & Daisy as different characters and putting Daisy in this list is almost as stupid as including characters from Ultimate to begin with.

[@kpbevan_904]

I mean Daisy is just a little easier to hit and a little easier to hit with in return.

[@doingyourdad105]

@@nimroddafny7125 I know that. But what they should've done is just say Peach/Daisy

[@nimroddafny7125]

If I had to guess they assumed that it's obvious that Daisy is just as good as Peach.

[@autumn4442]

I'm pretty sure that daisy is SLIGHTLY shorter than peach, and as a result, is very slightly better.

[@pixoul2237]

Pichu is basically a glass cannon, he gets damaged when using electric moves, so he’s not that op.

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

Meta Knight being Top-Tier in Brawl was the only time the Double S tier existed in any Smash Bros. TIer List. Can't wait for when Smash Ultimate has a full tier list ranking all 74 characters (Or 75 if Piranha Plant is counted).

[@AnyThingWorx]

Ofc PP will be included, why wouldn't it?

[@_Eremurus]

You make this sound like a Smash exclusive problem, and besides, Nintendo finally dabbles in patch culture.

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

Pikachu is way better than Pichu change my mind.

[@Marcusjnmc]

in competition for best recovery in the game vs good recovery with no hitbox, the only reason that weakness isn't glaringly apparent is more often than not a hit that knocks pichu flying will take stocks clean so the recovery doesn't come up , Pichu is better in most other areas though, so most certainly not way behind the other

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

@@Marcusjnmc Pikachu has better range and overall survivability. The fact that his moves don't hurt him like Pichu means that unlike Pichu he can just throw out a foward air or a thunder jolt without any consequences. His nair is also arguably better due to its combo potential and overall utility. His ledge trapping is better, due to his ridiculously disjointed Fsmash and safer moves he can more reliably cover his opponents getup options. Pikachu and Pichu are basically the same when it comes to edgeguarding so I won't mention that. But I do think that Pichu not having a hitbox on his up b is huge. Up B for Pikachu is ridiculously safe and Up B from the ledge is a great ledge option. Pichu can't utilize this which means that it's much easier to punish Pichu out of his Up B than Pikachu. The only thing Pichu has over Pikachu imo is his kill power, and even so it's not that huge of a difference. Both are amazing characters and definitely top tier but I do think that Pikachu is top 3 while Pichu barely makes it into top 10.

[@d4rkath]

Pichu is one of the smallest, making dodging easier. And if you know how to play a good Pichu, then it would be more deadly than Pikachu in any way.

[@jongharyu]

@@mcgoldenblade4765 Yeah, just watch VoiD vs ESAM Genesis 6. Pichu 3-0'd Pikachu.

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

@@d4rkath Pikachu is also one of the smallest and is also really hard to hit. Name any upside to Pichu and Pikachu can do it just as well or better. In a competitive game consistency is always favored over raw power. And Pikachu is by far one of the most consisten characters in the game right now.

[@username-ge7xe]

Imagine... Kirby (64) Vs Fox (Melee) Vs Meta Knight (Brawl) Vs Bayonetta (Smash 4)

[@Kennedy640]

DirtyDan 1020 or pikachu from 64

[@littleanvil2164]

or pichu from ultimate

[@helphelp8618]

Fox meelee gets bodied early.

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

Meta knight wins

[@benjaminyarleque2345]

Metaknight down b dessapear until is 1v1 and then win :v

[@feariing]

I’m going to bet big time one is Meta Knight in Brawl.

[@MogekoMagica]

Melee's Fox should be number one. Also I'm hearing some Melee player bias from our host when everyone knows Melee is a broken glitchy mess.

[@georgeangel1060]

hehe u rekt the melee player good