The Tren Twins Don't Take Steroids

[@chrisbowler6382]

All I heard was a clever and shameless plug for Turk. Greg, I don’t trust you until I see the randomized human control trials and all of your messaging wreaks conflict of interest.

[@gregdoucette]

Awesome thanks for spending the millions of $ to do these for me. I considered doing it but then I know people would say conflict of interest.

[@jeremiesbarrera5212]

@@gregdoucetteur came at him , harder than last timeee

[@Phantomaly]

Dont plug something that didnt go through substantial long term trsting and rct ​@@gregdoucette

[@Phantomaly]

Just a thought

[@benh6452]

4 lbs of muscle in a month!

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Guys, it's just TRT. Trenbolone Replacement Therapy is a wonder of medical science!

[@CedricBassman]

Got me in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@a-a-ron4679]

lol

[@Stygian360]

You win the internets

[@weignerleigner3037]

I grow my trenbologna in my garden

[@YaddiYahu]

Hrt is the plant based natural version

[@gorillaking8772]

You were dropping those "cooks" harder than last time coach Greg

[@jirieskelinen5607]

This may be a hot take, but I believe that the fact that steroids are talked about much more has caused much more people to start taking steroids, much less people would be taking steroids if it wasn't talked about at all.

[@philipquist771]

It's not a hot take. It's true

[@jirieskelinen5607]

@@philipquist771 Yes but I believe that even the videos that portray Steroids as negative probably cause more people to take them than not take them.

[@darylbrown6739]

That's what Morgan Freeman said about racism

[@StayTruFX]

I disagree. In that case I should take steroids too right. Nah bro.

[@leonardo_da_g9168]

Well there’s definitely a lot more research and more information available on how to use them without dealing with the major side effects

[@RJ-mm1mz]

“Video is doing horribly” has 470k views…I’d say that video they put out did pretty well

[@jasonito23]

If I get 20 views on my videos in one day I'm hyped. LMAO!

[@Dannyyschh]

And it’s the same amount if not higher of views as the rest of their videos lmao

[@NickST1192]

Ikr all their videos have around 450 to 500k. Coach C on one today

[@bearstrengthwithin]

​@@jasonito23me too lol

[@KrazyCiller98]

The point of his statement went right over your head or you didn't listen to his next few sentences. He was making the point that their other videos glorifying steroids, not putting them down, do much better, especially on release, than when not. just check the views counts or popular videos tab on the channel.

[@PeterMasalski93]

They are not on steroids, they are on Tren... They are Natty adjacent.

[@Margielapapi]

😂😂😂😂

[@ThePhysicalReaction]

I like a bovine on tren, not a hu-man :)

[@tren.tren29294]

They technically are natty cuz ur body makes testosterone and tren is derived from deca and deca is derived from testodterone

[@zam1007]

They are not on the sauce. They are just juice-curious.

[@stanfordkoch1271]

Lol

[@georgewilkie3580]

No kidding, some years ago, for several months, I trained in the same Gym that Greg trained in. I chatted with Greg from time to time, and got to in know him to some extent. I finally had to return to New York, and believe it or not, while on my flight back it just hit me that Greg D. was about as nice and caring as a top tier Bodybuilder that I have ever met. With all sincerely, Greg cares about People. During my few months at the Gym I observed Greg assisting numerous Gym members on how to correctly train for the best and most hypertrophic response a Bodybuilder could hope for, and Greg Never asked for Anything in return. He would even at times, help a guy or girl with their personal problems. After watching his outstanding channel for some time, I just felt compelled to text and let his followers know that Greg is really the super jacked, Nice GUY you see before you

[@cactu5jack]

That's called advertising, my man 💀

[@MontanaBoyInJapan]

Most of my injuries in the gym came from going heavy when I was dieting at a low body fat Greg is right on this one.

[@Headshotsaehe]

Clicked faster than last time 😂

[@supagreatman2826]

I checked more often than last time

[@ReDDx666]

quicker then last time

[@Reppintimefitness]

🏃‍♂️

[@zikhonamakala5847]

😂😂

[@anthonyfortunato6661]

Harder then last time

[@gromswowguide7927]

I just came from the gym where i chatted with a 16 year old kid, who told me that he basically was incredibly tempted to do steroids, because he opens up social media and see people like "the tren twins" and alike, who he says are like "just take tren and get huge bro". He seemed to almost have this tunnel vision that is not healthy, i told him to seriously weigh his decisions and think about the downsides, but him already being 16 and all tempted now, i sadly don't think someone like him will be able to keep his hands off the drugs, when only he has lifted for 1 year already.. It's a serious problem now that young lifters with absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to genetics and progress, get massive body dysmorphia, and FOMO on doing steroids. It would not surprise me if the average 15 - 20 year old lifter nowadays think the natural limit will hit them in a year or so, they think impatiently with unrealistic expectations that their newbie gains is the extend of their potential. It's very common now to say "oh max out your natural potential first, then jump on drugs" BRO HOW ABOUT FCKN NOT?! the big reasons as to why it is a horrible idea do not go away just cause you waited a couple of years lol.

[@jayraitt9023]

I've had some similar encounters with younger men in the gym recently. I looked at one and I told him I gained 80lbs of muscle naturally.. he was shocked. It took me 10 years. 10 years of hard work, and a lot of fun. But I'm glad we talked because it opened up his eyes to seeing that the "limit" of his genetics (which are far better than mine could ever be) was so far from being touched. He had years to go. These kids need to know that time is on their side. Money, women, family, friends, everything gets better with age if you take care of yourself and be at least somewhat responsible with your life. I am concerned for these kids. So I make sure to take my time, and if it means that my workout is interrupted or takes longer in order to talk to these kids and make sure they are safe, I'll gladly have a "bad" workout in order to help someone avoid danger and drugs.

[@cesarjimenezsalazar9322]

teenagers are just dumb, remember when you were a teenager? Well there you go

[@vinoverita]

All very good points. The argument for allowing one to reach one’s natural potential before going on gear is a horrible one. The same applies to those who “just take” TRT prescribed by their doctor. It’s a lame argument. We don’t even know what the long term effects are. But suffice it to say, if it makes you feel like you’re full of energy and eternally 25 years old, chances are you’re going to pay for that feeling later. Greg would have far fewer subscribers if he were totally natural. He is still an enhanced athlete and encouraging the drug lifestyle by the example of his life. So he contradicts his soap-box preaching against drugs, which no one notices.

[@AsdAsd-ph2hn]

@@vinoverita Isn't Greg on low TRT only though? I don't think taking TRT to keep his testosterone at 700-800 due to all the previous drug abuse is a bad thing or being juiced.

[@vinoverita]

@@AsdAsd-ph2hn My point is that exogenous Testosterone consistently at that level makes him non natty.

[@jasonito23]

Chris Bumstead taking steroids (all professional bodybuilders) are directly promoting steroids. Not indirectly. Taking steroids, stepping on stage and showing their results, winning shows, getting endorsements etc. That is direct promotion.

[@WalterBernard-vm1re]

Agree. Remember that they only flaunt the food not the bad.

[@Scoobied77]

Can’t trust anyone with the word Bum in his name. 💯🔔🔚

[@jasonito23]

@@WalterBernard-vm1re -And when they die, it's ALWAYS some pre-existing condition. They never say, "he had a heart attack due to his steroid abuse. "

[@nicowins]

Very True. Just like Greg is promoting steroids. We Got famous by talking about steroids and his succes as a bodybuilder / credentials has a lot to do with his previous gear use. When i look at Greg i look at a man who made a living of being a good coach , bodybuilder and KZbinr and he could not achieve that witjout steroids. Just because he say “dont take steroids” he is promoting them

[@WalterBernard-vm1re]

I know that because I’m one of them. You don’t want to abuse gear. Don’t be like me. It’s tempting when you’re the age of Bumstead and the tren twins but I promise almost all of them will masivelty regret it 20 years.

[@9shazad]

Holy Damm greg chill with your ads not buying Turk

[@dalinickkitners]

gregs turk builder only has like 1% turk

[@victorjakob8854]

@@dalinickkitnersRegardless, the human body has no such receptors for Turk anyways 😂

[@TheJoeMB]

Right?

[@ezforsaken]

the name Turk just makes me thing about "Turd"

[@blaztncruze]

It’s all junk, none of that stuff works but they alllllll try to sell it

[@Ncryptiion]

lmao coach made a girl cry at the gym

[@Lyubomir_Stolachshuk]

It's incredible how quality promotion and advertising works. By constantly hearing about the benefits of your cookbook and the fact that thousands of people have purchased it, I want to buy it too.

[@megamagic1195]

Better insights than last time

[@BellesBottes]

The talk in this community is really a way to improve knowledge of everyone. Thank you for the passion put in the video!

[@Padbot1]

Chris started using steroids at 16. Telling young people to do the opposite of every single successful person in the industry is pointless. You all did roids. You'd have no career without them. Zoomers aren't listening to what the old heads say. They know what you did.

[@WalterBernard-vm1re]

You’re right BUT here’s the catch. 1) Even if you use gear, your odds of becoming rich and successful like Greg or the Twins are slim to none 2) I’m an old head who wasted so much of my youth chasing that perfect physique and abusing drugs. Never made a cent off of it. Cost me tens of thousands of dollars, could have had many homes by now. 3) Going to school or learning a real skill is a far safer route to independence and success 4) How do you know the tren twins will still be rich, famous and successful 5 years from now? I’ve been in this industry for 20 years. Do you know how many big “fitness stars” like Greg and the twins I’ve seen come and go. Nobody knows their name now.

[@flame4210]

How do you know Chris started at 16?

[@Hit_maxes_evade_taxes]

Chris started at 20

[@Mongkol_Thirakot]

​@@flame4210He's the supplier

[@megyskermike]

Or you could look at Will Tennyson/and those like him and cultivate a personality and not have to take gear. Even before he was big, he had an incredible audience.

[@millennial9252]

Are we really blaming the Twins for steroid usage? Bodybuilding in itself promotes steroids, period.

[@K9BuiltLife5053]

Coach Greg knows how it all ties together!!!

[@fries1o535]

Papa Greg the goat

[@jonosterman2878]

Papa is an instil 😂 it’s what we call Joe Rogan because he’s an old curmudgeon now.

[@stevelarson3391]

SIMP

[@RaheemBuh]

Unsurprisingly, Coach Greg is right at 26:00 when talking about bulking up and getting fat. When I turned 21, I was 6'4 & 185lbs, and wanted to "get big". I put on about 50lbs in 6 months and while i was stronger than ever, it took me two years to lose that weight. Ultimately, I did hit my goal of being 220 mostly lean, but now I have extra skin and still struggle to keep lbs off. If anyones thinking of doing a big stupid bulk like i did, i recommended you reconsider your approach, and do it slowly

[@geucamole]

More creative product placement than the last time!

[@humanvoicemail5059]

Can you do some cycling training advice videos please? You’ve been killing it on Strava

[@darrenhilton9402]

💯

[@ericmorris89]

I support you Coach Greg!! I watch all your videos and I value your advice. Keep up the good work!

[@zavy4108]

Greg is truly a genius in this industry he needs to talk sense into yall

[@joedemaio1342]

Much respect from New Hampshire, Greg

[@ColbyMckiddy]

I love Dr. Mike AND Coach Greg! Both guys make excellent content and we all benefit from their knowledge

[@tragedyofothello2953]

Clicked faster than last time and last time was 1 minute ago when i just done a Mike Isratel placing video from coach Greg. More consistent than last time

[@EdwinIsDifferent]

Never understood the Greg hate tbh, literally a “COACH” supposed to criticize, supposed to analyze, and supposed to give you the hard truth to better yourself. How can you be the best without working on flaws you can’t see from the outside 🙌🏽 Can’t wait to one day work with this man

[@charlesthompson5821]

The more I hear about steroids the more I agree with coach Greg I am natural and am very much glad of it and I would definitely discourage the use of steroids please continue to do what you’re doing coach Greg very good advice

[@teroyselfhelpjourney3661]

If people put away the ego, and take in the truth. They level up in whatever area of human endeavor.

[@ColinEngel1]

Greg is later than ever with this video, the Tren Twins already got their trophies! I wanted to hear your thoughts on their placements compared to the other competitors.

[@rickybobby7276]

All steroid users try to downplay the fact that their entire life depends on an exogenous substance that’s not food water or air like everyone else. Their entire world would wither away without steroids. These are classic drug addicts.

[@Ceber911]

Underrated comment

[@ygalel]

Big McFries no one can stop you if you are rolling down the hill 😂😂😂

[@MeanBeanComedy]

I just realised Gregory cares deeply about the Tren Twins because he's a twin! 😆🤦🏼‍♂️ How sweet.

[@kal00iann]

Dear coach Greg, I am 17 and I have been going to the gym for 1,5 years. When I watch the TrenTwins I don’t have the attention of using steroids and I don’t think they promote it by merch or being naked. People can choose whatever they want to do with their body no matter the side effects.

[@Teneighteenfitness]

They still got that W yesterday

[@tonymagnumZERO]

These youngins are just too impulsive and impatient to spend quality time building their bodies

[@RyanMinardovic]

The Tren Twins look friggin excellent, what are you on about? Give them like 3-5 years.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-lg8ro]

@@RyanMinardovic The Tren Twins are Youngins but it doesnt mean all youngins are the tren twins Your mom might be a women but not all women are your mom

[@RyanMinardovic]

@@MonkeyDLuffy-lg8ro that is fair. It sounded like they might be referring to The Tren Twins. They have put in a lot of work.

[@Disableddonkeys88]

They look better than you do tho

[@WARS187]

​​@@Disableddonkeys88they can have the build I have the dick unlike roid bois If I was in a banana hammock I'd take home the trophy ask ur mom any of urs I'm ur Father

[@arashiii-21m]

Greg should try making tiktoks of him making the foods in his cook book, I feel like that would increase sales on the book

[@nikushamosidze1951]

He is banned on tiktok I think

[@blaztncruze]

@@nikushamosidze1951he is

[@AidenP_MX]

I ❤ Greg doucette

[@basementlord]

All these fitfluencers encourage roid use regardless if they use them or not

[@gwill5839]

Big Mac fry’s rolling down the hill I’m dead 😂😂

[@pupper5580]

I recently heard a quote. If you want to help others, say the truth. If you want to help yourself, tell them what they want to hear.

[@ryanstill6610]

Honestly its really good hearing greg talking with his normal voice

[@DeanG236]

You say if the twins, cbum, Sam weren’t on steroids the population would be less influenced to also hop on them which is probably very much true But where are they and their channels if they were regular people training? And them being on gear and telling people to not hop on them is exactly what you do every video, so do you not think your success and popularity on KZbin is a direct result of abusing PED’s previously? Does no one look at your financial situation and popularity as a result of PED’s? Or do the twins/Sam/cbum only get criticised for influencing indirectly through steroids and not yourself? Seems hypocritical

[@muaath.]

Greg i think if someone did something in public you can talk about it in public its fine it doesn’t need to in private although honestly if you want to give advice most of the time giving it privately is the way to go

[@0ldPlayer]

natty lifters for 8+ years and they almost never talk about roids unless they recommend someone not to use them or it gets brought up to them, they always shit on the side effects of it

[@louisfeula539]

Coach Turk!! We love you !!!

[@TrenbologneSandwich]

I started lifting at 20 and started gear at 23. I'm almost 28 and have done somewhere between 5 and 8 cycles using over 15 compounds, probably over 20. I have never consistently hit my protein intake, sleep goals, recovery goals, or stuck to a program consistently. I'm very strong and much larger than the average person but I could have done this naturally if I just did 70% of my protein, sleep, recovery, and training. I also drink a lot, I'm an alcoholic, I smoke cigars, I eat like shit, my job is really physical and bad for my sleep. You don't need gear, you just need to work smarter. That said, I will continue using gear

[@xaboryuanmolina796]

ngl i use to hate coach greg but now i understand him for spreading awareness and at the same time promoting turk all in one he knows how to give his own advice from being a coach and promiting turk at the same time lol.

[@nicowins]

It is funny how people like Greg is promoting steroids himself. Yet he do not say to take steroids but lookin at his success steroids is a Big factor of it

[@glennirizarry7043]

Yo that Big Mac one🤣 😭 I'm dead bro

[@AMarie_Mooch]

Coach Greg cracking me up more than last time.

[@MatthewNicioli]

Greg shutting down roid users harder than last time

[@FreshRh1no]

My take is better start then young since your body can handle it better. Build a bad ass physique by 30 and then just maintain most of it in trt for life

[@MichelleReacts94]

I don't think you're shadow banned i think the KZbin algorithm think its a sensitive topic so thats why to check when you post click on newest post and see if your post comes up if not it likely has gone to the content creator to be reviewed

[@conansmith6373]

I'm commenting to boost the algorithm

[@jstieper1]

Bruh it’s the swearing censorship that has me dying 😭

[@Dimitrios95]

Coach Gregg pettier than last time.

[@joelherandez43]

Love calm Greg

[@SimonGhostRileyTF141]

Would love to find out if Greg's opinion has changed on them being natty all those years. Given the lack of progress we've seen now that they're "only just" taking them

[@KC-ku3wi]

Greg is pushing product harder than last time.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Dude I might not have the strength I used to when I was taking steroids and testosterone boosters but I can still do wall assist hand stand pushups but my heart is thanking me for not killing myself quicker than I already am

[@fldsmdfr9107]

Dying earlier than last time

[@morganfreeweights]

It’s shocking how grown adults talk to each other on the internet for everyone to see

[@Daniel-sb7ze]

He’s right you know. Anyone will talk more about the most effective drugs without caring for the addiction properties of the gains. It’s a double edged sword.

[@theRulekeeper]

I get accused constantly of being on fear and all natural. I’m 6’6 and 225lbs which one any that big but I sit close to 9% body fat

[@andruwcolby5233]

Video 33 of asking if you can please workout with Mike Israetel

[@deolenton4432]

once you realise all Greg's videos are just him trying to sell overpriced ineffective supplements you can't take this guy seriously hahaha

[@vinoverita]

Click-baiting is a sign of our times. It reveals how unserious most people are about learning, but seek instead easy fixes and drama. The whole tenor of the online community has lost its dignity. Instead of people raising the bar they are chasing clicks through disingenuous titles, artificial personalities (like Greg screaming through half his videos) and then making lame justifications for doing so.

[@1nonly_ai]

Coach Greg commenting on the tren twins video harder than last time

[@reachon7396]

I guess cause im older I don’t feel tempted to take gear, when I watch fitness influencers like the tren twins i like seeing people train hard asf along with some argumentative humor

[@NamPham-jk5zc]

I warm up with the bar, to make sure my form is primed up. Jumping right into 225 is moronic

[@TheAverageDudeExperience]

Steroids have blown up in younger community. The amount of 16-19 year olds hopping on steroids now is insane. We are def gonna see a increase in liver failures, heart attacks in young adults.

[@pengfitness859]

Greg single handed trying to save the fitness industry

[@howtobeit9149]

You should only take steroids if you can check the following 7 boxes. 1) You don't have family history of cardiovascular issues. 2) Your body responds well to steroids in 2 way, you build muscle well on them and secondly you don't get severe acne and other side effects 3) *you can bench 2 plates each side for 15 clean reps with semi-narrow grip, no back arch and bouncing weight of chest for momentum 4)you can do 20 dead hang pull ups bar must touch your chest and you must hold for for 2 seconds. If you're out of shape to do pull ups then your diet isn't clean enough to be effective on roids anyways. 5) You can military press 1 plate each side for 15 strict reps. 6) You can squat 1.5-2 plates each side for 20-25 reps 7) You can deadlift 2.5-3 plates each side for 20-25 reps If you can check those boxes and you're off average height... it means your body is most likely healthy enough to handle steroids and secondly you've really put the work in as a natural to get the best response from roids.

[@skisbej]

Greg Doucette reminds me of Revan from KOTR 2. He started out as a Jedi natty, went into the Dark Side by using trenbolone and a ton of steroids and even sold them, and then had the courage to reject it all and return to the Light.

[@Big_Bledsoe]

“I’m gonna try some anavar…. Surprise!!! It’s winstrol.” 😂😂😂 actually crying laughing in the middle of a set of squats

[@nicolaasschenau2773]

video was more interesting then last time. keep it up coach!!

[@OZ05]

This comes out of nowhere but does a ketogenic diet work for staying lean🤔

[@koromel8714]

'helping people more than last time' this is iconic

[@joshmcmillaan]

They’re not on gear and I’m not blind… I can just close my eyes with my eyelids open

[@leprosy2099]

When Greg said “loser assholes” it had me rolling

[@yasaki_byakuya.michail]

Ey greg, im the guy who said why mike dosent make a video with a response for you but i guess he just dosent care... he already went to the show, placed alr in my opionion but i guess in the end those videos you make are just drama between 2 smart people... I guess he dosent care even if his doctor told him to stop so yea.. but hey IM IN YOUR VIDEO:) anywhay i love you and mike as well, both huge huge inspiration for me ❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@alexpatyababa5221]

This comment section is WILD. I used to be so ready to body build and now I see these are some of the unhealthiest people in the world (mental and physical) And I wish Gregs supps didnt work, I am on Tongkat and it is doin wonders for me as a natural, sounds way better than gaining a bunch of muscle only to lose it and be addicted to enhancements.

[@Mr.Vhandle]

i miss the Era when bodybuilders took PED's after 8-9 years of natural training and only when they saw that without them they had no chance in winning a competition. Seing young people taking PED's after a year of training or less is just a shame, these sports used to be about building your body in a fun enviorment not in a cage stuffed with roideded out people who half rep most of the weight.

[@FitPowerment]

Greg!! I’m a huge fan!! Can you bring the laser eye videos back? I’m doing body recomposition journey on my channel!!

[@aidancook3059]

coach greg is more fired up than last time

[@Robiruu]

Warming up w 225 on prep 2 weeks out is certainly ballsy 😂😂

[@Cristian-to4bq]

Never disappoints with those intro.

[@ramneeksidhu907]

I hate when people on steriod claiming they are not on it, im 100% natty because of this shit the younger guys reallys gets false motivation that we can build physique like this in just a year and then after knowing about steriod and gets exposure to steriod knowledge they start taking it to fulfill their dream of good physique

[@onestickybandit2722]

Puberty kicked my COOK, gyno that stayed with me and really bad acne everywhere. I’ve thought about taking steroids but I really don’t wanna go through that again. More natty than last time 😂

[@victorjakob8854]

It’s only going to increase the issues you had during/after puberty. Life is too short, don’t make it even shorter and more unbearable.

[@yee8409]

6:22 Greg wild for this😭

[@TheKashCow]

Coach Greg, I went to the video and couldn’t find your comment. Something is up…

[@intensity.density2208]

Don't use roids kids. Wait until you're 25 or after you've had kids. I know a few young fellas from my local gym who got on the stuff. Not only did they achieve results that they could have naturally, but they also ruined their health in the process. They're all under 22. It's not worth it boys. Eat right, train hard and be patient.

[@franciscoorozco1565]

0:52 I thought coach Greg was about to say "It's not what they wanna hear is what they need to hear"

[@kenuprotada8048]

By your logic, body builders have an obligation to talk about steroids because if they don’t, it could indirectly cause MORE people to want to use them? I don’t agree with that at all.

[@Anthracillus]

13:19 Did Daddy Greg just say that in the long run, his Turkesterone supplement is more expensive than Steroids? So I should just get some Steroids instead of his Turk if I want that bang for my buck? Thanks Daddy Greg!

[@clintmiller88]

Sam hasnt done anything to promote steroids he’s doing the old school thing you decide for yourself

[@jasonito23]

BLOCKED, not the algorithm.

[@TowhomdoIoweexcess]

Greg mentioning it was a joke, with the twins supporting this just exemplifies how many people don’t understand irony- and obvious subliminal messaging