The True Core Of The Jesus Myth | Christopher Hitchens @ FreedomFest (1)

[@John_Lyle]

_"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."_ *Marcus Aurelius*

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

That ain’t how it works Chief. God is perfect; therefore your morals don’t mean shit to him because he’s the only reason you have any to begin with. Every action you take and word you speak is already known, so believing that they will be impressive is just your ego in action. Any God that would just a person on his or her human morality would be no true God. This quote is just another highlight of a blowhard who doesn’t take the time to sit down and understand the very basic essence of what would entail God.

[@tjones5719]

This is actually how I live my life. It is one of the reasons I am not an atheist though because there is too much selfishness in that mindset based on the leaders and others who speak on its behalf.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

@@tjones5719 you do not live a good life. Nobody does.

[@tjones5719]

@@jacksonrelaxin3425 “you do not live a good life. Nobody does” nice faulty statement. First it doesn’t follow evidence as you don’t know how I live. Second it creates an absolute without evidence as well. Sorry but your judgmental response does confirm you don’t live a good life but says nothing about mine.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

@@tjones5719 Lol you reported my comment. Little bitch.

[@moknows4996]

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian: (enjoy!) 10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees! 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving." 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity. 2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

[@Oldtinear]

Well said!

[@Laach826]

Holy crap this is perfect.

[@Laach826]

EtScripturaeSanctae Holy crap, you're still going at this?

[@moknows4996]

EtScripturaeSanctae look up "bat shit crazy inbred Jed" and I'm sure you will find a mirror. You and I both know that ALL RELIGION is destroying this planet. ALL religion is poison. It poisons the hearts and minds of the weak, meek and extremely gullible which you have proven yet again with your posts about magic and fiction! Why are you creatards so afraid to live?

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

***** I have just read the first comment of several that you appear to have made here, and I am ready to call POE on you!

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. Sadly, the late C. E. Hitchens misunderstood the blood atonement for sins as a matter of record. “When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was” (Matthew 2 : 3-9). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His finished work on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. ουτως γαρ ηγαπησεν ο θεος τον κοσμον ωστε τον υιον αυτου τον μονογενη εδωκεν ινα πας ο πιστευων εις αυτον μη αποληται αλλ εχη ζωην αιωνιον Perfectly translated into the inerrant King James Bible, those Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone. The fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that has continued to speak for itself over the millennia. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible King James Bible in English long before C.R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar who misrepresented the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, linguistic derivations, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, British Common Law or the scientific method, but his prolix revisionist psychobabble always was nonessential. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been an illiterate Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context.

[@thestevenjaywaymusic7775]

He was a star. Shining bright in this world. Articulate, intelligent, well read and educated and most of all profoundly correct in many of his assumptions. A great loss to humanity.

[@tjones5719]

He was a great mind but I wouldn’t say it was a great loss, that’s overselling things that others can replicate. He just had a bigger stage at times.

[@stephenireland3816]

You forgot piss head!

[@pauljam8197]

@@tjones5719 Hi jjpetkusiii.

[@tjones5719]

@@pauljam8197 you can sign your hello however you like, in this case, your former user name. That isn’t going to hide your illogical nature and lack of following evidence you show.

[@nirodha35]

One of the few redeeming things of social media is that heroes like Hitchens do not die💫

[@CS-mo7xp]

I firmly believe that this contentious matter will be 100% resolved, once and for all, in the youtube comments section.

[@tiotavopregunta502]

😅😅

[@bodhiapurva3887]

Ok, after you said that it just came to me that in 2,000 years from now, some people might be debating whether Christopher Hitchens actually existed or was he just a figment of certain folks imagination.

[@jujjuj7676]

Oh it was solved many years ago... People just don't pay attention. Science is always the same or gets more accurate..religion changed year to year and becomes more vague.😊

[@bodhiapurva3887]

@@jujjuj7676 Science has been wrong sometimes and changes every time a new theory emerges about how the universe began. Religions were established before science and so they are vague in the way they have explained the workings of the cosmos.

[@jujjuj7676]

@@bodhiapurva3887 How fucking Ignorant can you be. Science is not wrong, a "scientist" can be wrong not science as science is a method. In addition, science seems wrong to you cause you half ass understand it. Science gets more accurate as the days go by. One day it says the object is a planet, next year it says its a sun with gas, next year its a gas with metal core. As you see it gets more accurate. The problem with ur lazy ass is you don't keep up with it so to you it seems wrong. Maybe if you get off ur ass and keep up with science instead of your regurgitated nonsense, you might JUST might learn to not only think for yourself but also see the EVOLUTION if science and basic intellect. What a pathetic response...tell me a lot about who u are lazy ass.

[@ergonomover]

“Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. The grave will supply plenty of time for silence.” ― Christopher Hitchens

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 The burden of proof or of convincing lies with the person making a positive claim. The bible is not evidence that the bible is true (circular reasoning is a fallacy). You claim it is true? Up to you to produce independent evidence to support your claim, or reasoned arguments, you have the floor. The "creation of the world" is clearly seen by NASA, baby planets forming within their star's accretion disc - not evidence of any god, much less of yours, too bad for you. Don't be a sore loser.

[@judyives1832]

@@jos.petkus509 There’s no good evidence of a god. Of course you can’t prove a negative. We can’t disprove fairies or bigfoot or fire breathing dragons either but there’s no reason to think they exist. The fact that there is no evidence for them, proves that the correct response is to not believe until there is. If there was a god, we should have seen some indication of it. But whenever we have found the cause of something, the answer has never been “a god did it”. A natural explanation has been found over and over. Nature scores 10 million, god zero.

[@John_Lyle]

@@jos.petkus509 You want evidence that the bible contains discrepancies? *Matthew 1* 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Compare with *Luke 3* 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, So how did *Jacob* beget Joseph, son of *Heli* N. Scudder

[@stephenireland3816]

John Lyle This biblical discrepancy is debunked! The Genealogy of Jesus Christ (According to Eusebius) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2TFpHSDrreqmNk

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. Sadly, the late C. E. Hitchens misunderstood the blood atonement for sin as a matter of record. “Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it” (Isaiah 40 : 1-5). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His finished work om Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. ουτως γαρ ηγαπησεν ο θεος τον κοσμον ωστε τον υιον αυτου τον μονογενη εδωκεν ινα πας ο πιστευων εις αυτον μη αποληται αλλ εχη ζωην αιωνιον Perfectly translated into the inerrant King James Bible, those Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone. The fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that has continued to speak for itself over the millennia. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible King James Bible in English long before C.R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar who misrepresented the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, linguistic derivations, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, British Common Law or the scientific method, but his prolix revisionist psychobabble always was nonessential. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been an illiterate Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context.

[@ergonomover]

"We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality. On every side, there is conclusive evidence that the contrary is the case and that faith causes people to be more mean, more selfish, and perhaps above all, more stupid." - Christopher Hitchens

[@andrewg2032]

Which was a terrible take by Christopher. The man was an alcoholic weirdo.

[@ergonomover]

@@andrewg2032 Hate the message, shoot the messenger? Or would you care to explain what he got wrong?

[@bigbillthehaywood8762]

@@andrewg2032 Deflect all you want, doesn’t make it clever to think the dead rise again or some other dumb nonsense

[@fenyoaeemckinney2144]

For years now I have personally content that even though there my be “good people” (teachers, preachers, clerks, firemen, etc.) in the world 80-90% of them are STUPID and IGNORANT. The racist, gun-violent Trump cultist in the USA (Two-thirds of Republicans want Trump to retain major political role; 44% want him to run again in 2024) are a prime example!😫

[@lifelinesoutreach]

What sin controls your life?

[@geneobrien8907]

Some of the comments about this video show that religious belief has nothing to do with experience or reason but with deep and irrational needs. The religious will discount anything that runs counter to their beliefs; they are willing to ignore all the findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. Everyone has an aversion to being lied to but believers willingly sacrifice their critical thinking and logic and accept that they MUST believe in something without doubting it. There is one question for believers that I find to be the most telling when they respond. Considering everything that is required for you to invest in your religion, if there’s even the slightest possibility that you have been manipulated, fooled and lied to, why wouldn’t you investigate that?

[@ireneevans1853]

I have no need other than I despair for the condition man kind finds it self in for hundreds of yeards man has tried every form of Government yet we have not achieved satisfaction ,why we were never designed to rule ourselves ,what has self rule resulted in ,chaos ,wars ,crime , tell me how to solve the worlds woes and I will listen

[@geneobrien8907]

If, on a beautiful day, you're running a marathon on a dirt road, the runners out front will see blue skies and clean air while those in the back of the pack will see cloudy skies and dirty air. The reality of the day isn't altered, just the runners' perception. It's all how you chose to see things but you take a pessimists point of view because of your beliefs. You believe that people can't effectively think for themselves and we should submit to an invisible Santa in the sky and let the bible govern our lives. A book can't govern nor can a mythical father figure. Only people can govern. If those who follow the bible had their way, we'd find that the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; they would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, invade our schools, libraries and homes. That would be far worse than the imperfect system that's in place now.

[@ThomasCooper2013]

nrylee You almost get to the point Hitchens is making with your last paragraph. God or the existence of God and the promise of the return of the messiah, has nothing to do with the condition of man and the species continues to advance despite his curses and ambivalence. Congratulations. You have become an atheist.

[@ireneevans1853]

if you take the case of the apostle Paul he believed he was doing the right thing by handing Christians over for execution.his experience on the road to Damascus completely changed him.we do not have such spectacular visions to day but many ppl have had experiences where God has answered prayers and acted directly in their lives,what is irrational about wanting to know why a person is suffering and wanting answers,or why a loved one has died,can you answer these ones.Dont forget Paul was a well educated man ,he was not ignorant.he had a thinking mind

[@geneobrien8907]

irene evans if getting "answers" from an imaginary friend is good enough for you than I can't argue with that!

[@ergonomover]

“If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.” ― Robert Green Ingersoll

[@jos.petkus509]

Your jokes are not even funny. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 i wasn't joking. The death penalty for working on Sunday, eating shellfish, wearing plaid or touching pigskin (as seen in Leviticus) is no laughing matter, are you ill?

[@carlosnolasco252]

Bro stop

[@ergonomover]

@@carlosnolasco252 Not sure who you mean, Bro, but I'll stop when Jos. Petkus stops, no problem.

[@roysharma3942]

And Ingersoll must have been an insane criminal to reach this conclusion, otherwise how could he reach this conclusion without properly testing the writings? Unless he was fantasising again.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was nothing to debate. Sadly, the late C. E. Hitchens misunderstood the blood atonement for sins as a matter of record. εγραψα τη εκκλησια αλλ ο φιλοπρωτευων αυτων διοτρεφης ουκ επιδεχεται ημας Translated perfectly into the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not" (3John 9). The Lord Jesus Christ saves lost sinners by grace through faith alone in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone. Hell awaits all the unregenerate according to the Saviour and the infallible Holy Scriptures that record His life on earth, crucifixion, death, burial and Resurrection. The historicity of Noah's Flood has always been well beyond legitimate dispute. "Hitch" lied, but he died of metastasized cancer 13 years ago. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading. Postmodernist fanatics who propagandize the atheist cult on social media insist that everyone must adore their ungodly rhetoric and logical fallacies. απο δε αρχης κτισεως αρσεν και θηλυ εποιησεν αυτους ο θεος Translated flawlessly, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ say: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10: 6). Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith solely in Him testifies of His holiness, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth. The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Even the term "theory of evolution" is a scientific misnomer because Darwin's racist hypotheses cannot be proven by observation. Of course, they have never been proven since they are inherently false, and the late C. E. Hitchens wrote turgid Marxist prose. Sadly, the Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar. Although he died of metastasized cancer on 15 December 2011 A. D. in Texas after a long illness, his atheist followers are unaware that his ridiculous and immoral claims have NO substantial basis in historiography, linguistics, philosophy, ecclesiology, classical literature, British Common Law or the scientific method. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882, and this stupid video still mutters incoherently for itself. Its gauche revisionism and bizarre misogyny continue to appall me, but rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been a ridiculous Bolshie cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes accurate and important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of" dialectic inevitably results in circular reasoning.

[@ergonomover]

“The man who prays is the one who thinks that god has arranged matters all wrong, but who also thinks that he can instruct god how to put them right.” ― Christopher Hitchens, Mortality

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@jos.petkus509]

No, you are wrong again. Stop spamming. Yours were insignificant assertions. No further explanation of your utter rubbish is required. QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Just because you show you are incapable of debate does not mean there is no debate.

[@dianespies3104]

So brilliant!! When people pray they are not changing God's mind they are indeed changing their own mind & accepting what is, is.

[@ergonomover]

@@stephenireland3816 Thus, when victims of pedo-priests and pedo-pastors pray in His church for the painful abuse to stop, God can be swayed? Yet, we keep discovering more victims, can you explain?

[@ergonomover]

“I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves.” ― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch 22: A Memoir

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 The burden of proof or of convincing lies with the person making a positive claim. The bible is not evidence that the bible is true (circular reasoning is a fallacy). You claim it is? Up to you to produce independent evidence to support your claim, or reasoned arguments, you have the floor. The "creation of the world" is clearly seen by NASA, baby planets forming within their star's accretion disc - not evidence of any god, much less of yours, too bad for you. Don't be a sore loser.

[@John_Lyle]

@@jos.petkus509 As a clever man once said. You want evidence that the bible contains discrepancies? *Matthew 1* 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Compare with *Luke 3* 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, So how did *Jacob* beget Joseph, son of *Heli* N. Scudder.

[@jos.petkus509]

"@@John_Lyle " ???? We understand that you have never been clever. QED.

[@John_Lyle]

@@jos.petkus509 QED is an abbreviation of the Latin words "Quod Erat Demonstrandum" which loosely translated means "that which was to be demonstrated", and is a formal way of ending a mathematical, logical or physical proof. It's purpose is to alert the reader that the immediately previous statement, which naturally was arrived at by an unbroken chain of logic, was the original statement that we were trying to prove. At no point in your comment did you offer any form of evidence to support your statement which was made purely to insult me. The man chosen to raise Jesus was the product of gay buttsex according to the bible. Matthew1:16 states that *Jacob* begat Joseph, yet in Luke3:23, Joseph is described as the son of *Heli* Therefore *Jacob* begat Joseph, son of *Heli* QED.

[@ergonomover]

“The truth is, that what is called religion is necessarily inconsistent with free thought. A believer is a bird in a cage, a Freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wing.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll, The Complete Works of Robert G. Ingersoll

[@Ancient_Man_In_Modern_World]

If you looked into Freethinker, a scam... If you looked into the blatant hypocrisy of the materialist worldview inspiring Carl Marx, inspiring Stalin; Need we talk about the Gulag? The killing fields? The Iron Curtain? The People's Republic of China? And how all of which flocked in mass to the country founded upon the standard of the Bible? The only thing lying Hitch can talk about is magnifying the small handful of minority groups that have came and gone as they should. . Intermingling the devils of Islam with the the Creator of the universe. Dude, all that burdensome stuff is on you. Seems you have one goal; to flush out those that speak of the power of the Bible in the earth, to bring in your flyspecks against a masterpiece. . Marxism sought that. . . You just flow right with the materialist concept that ALWAYS birthed a Stalin. . . Robbing human value, because you've been robbed personally and have no care for others. That's why you would gladly force kids to publicly denounce God to further their education. . The German democratic republic. . . That's what the materialist looks like in a position of power.

[@FlandiddlyandersFRS]

Nice!

[@kevincoshner310]

that free thinker is very often confused, unhappy because he she cannot come to grips with answers to the universe when God is discounted.

[@ergonomover]

@@kevincoshner310 Colonel Ingersoll extolled the answers science has provided, such as for the structure of the solar system and the origin of species. No need for gods to explain them. He was a happy man, happy to defend logic, reason, secular government.

[@kevincoshner310]

@@ergonomover Science cannot provide concrete answers to the structure of our system and the origin of species. No self-respecting scientists would make such claims. Science will tell you what it `thinks` may have happened , nothing more!

[@jjpetkusiii]

There is no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation” (Hebrews 9 : 27-28). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Positioning matters. Too many postmodernist fanatics ignore wholesome exegesis. I will refrain from quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson about foolish consistency as irrelevant to evidence right now. You may be aware of what his position was. I have referred to Kritik der reinen Vernunft in German in the past. I have also made references to Critique of Pure Reason in comments (in English) on this video because this Trotskyite monologue has no logical merit whatsoever. It benefits no one who believes in the Lord God omnipotent, and it edifies no one who denies the existence of Almighty God. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the late C. E. Hitchens lied about so many different subjects as often as he did. There was and is nothing challenging about his numerous lies since they should be rejected immediately. Neither a Rassenkreis nor an Artenkreis has any bearing on the creation of the cosmos by the LORD per se. "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light" (Genesis 1 : 3). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone according to the Holy Scriptures. εν τουτω εστιν η αγαπη ουχ οτι ημεις ηγαπησαμεν τον θεον αλλ οτι αυτος ηγαπησεν ημας και απεστειλεν τον υιον αυτου ιλασμον περι των αμαρτιων ημων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, the ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1John 4:10). The historicity of Noah’s Flood has always been beyond any legitimate geological and biological dispute. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale. The Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism."

[@nowthenzen]

I have come to understand the quality of Hitch's intellect too late, but better than never.

[@Chris-is6xb]

He was a terriblely complicated person. Very smart yes but also sadly very patriarchal and he was also on the wrong side of the smoking in public debate back in the day. Still, no one is perfect and I've learned a lot from Chris over the years. Chris Hedges is also a brilliant man.

[@boblozaintherealworld3577]

His arguments are, in my opinion and based on the writings I have read, are always substantiated by his personal research and knowledge. One does not need to be an atheist (as I am not in the true sense) to understand what he is saying. Read some more of his stuff.

[@georgeyoung8450]

He ran a muck in America, and rightly so. 👍

[@stephenireland3816]

Robert And unfortunately it appears Hitch got to know his Creator a bit to late😳

[@b1nary_f1nary]

Are you really trying to shock non believers with the prospect of him going to hell? IT'S NOT A THING

[@ergonomover]

“The doctrine of eternal punishment is in perfect harmony with the savagery of the men who made the orthodox creeds. It is in harmony with torture, with flaying alive, and with burnings. The men who burned their fellow-men for a moment, believed that God would burn his enemies forever.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899) statesman and orator

[@stephenireland3816]

ergonomover Question: What punishment would be to severe for a Paedophile priest? So it’s not the punishment of evil that’s the issue here, it’s what is the definition of good and evil. Gods says because of sin we perceive good and evil often differently to our perfect creator. “They shall call evil good and good evil” For example, God would see murdering a defenceless unborn baby as unspeakably evil and deserving of punishment. A woman may perceive it as her right to abort the unborn life. But I would ask a pro-choicer if a man deliberately punched you in the stomach and you lost the baby should that man be charged with murder. I believe most pro-choicers would want him charged with murder! So they can justify their own evil but not his.

[@roysharma3942]

A slightly more intelligent statement from ingersoll. Ergo, are you not getting bored with that book yet?

[@donpetty7584]

Christ probably spoke more about hell than most other subjects. If you don't want to hear the truth, then shut it out. All I can say is God help you. The human soul lives forever, either with God or apart from Him. The person above clearly wants to live apart from God. That is what is insane.

[@ergonomover]

@@donpetty7584 Living with a knee on his neck, threatened with everlasting punishment for not believing the right way, you call that a life? Ingersoll had faith in something that surely exists, humanity, which has invented thousands of gods, probably yours too. You live apart from Allah, 2 billion Muslims might call you insane.

[@ergonomover]

@@donpetty7584 There is exactly zero empirical evidence for the existence of the soul. If you can't show it, you don't know it, if it isn't knowledge then it can't be truth. God could put the right thoughts in my head but prefers to have you attempting the heavy lifting. Not the best plan in my opinion. Souls have no nervous system, can't feel pain. It's all made up, and many have suffered from the fear-mongering over the centuries. Robert Ingersoll was a preacher's son, maybe when his abolitionist dad was denied work, Robert lost faith. I think the doctrine of infinite punishment is what's insane.

[@ergonomover]

“If we long for our planet to be important, there is something we can do about it. We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers.” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

[@jos.petkus509]

Not you again.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Yes, there was, is and will be things to debate here, dry your tears.

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED

[@jos.petkus509]

No, you are wrong again. You forgot to define your terms. We have all the documented evidence about Count Lyev Nikolayevich Tolstoy that we need. There are no significant questions about the historicity of the Lord Jesus Christ today. This silly anti-Semitic video contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of your luncheons is necessary. QED.

[@jos.petkus509]

Your jokes are not even funny. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel at an English boarding school which he attended for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language. He denied them by exercising his free will to do so. "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ" (Colossians 2 : 8). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Positioning matters. Too many postmodernist fanatics ignore wholesome exegesis. I will refrain from quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson about foolish consistency as irrelevant to evidence right now. You may be aware of what his position was. I have referred to Kritik der reinen Vernunft in German in the past. I have also made references to Critique of Pure Reason in comments (in English) on this video because this Trotskyite monologue has no logical merit whatsoever. It benefits no one who believes in the Lord God omnipotent, and it edifies no one who denies the existence of Almighty God. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the late C. E. Hitchens lied about so many different subjects as often as he did. There was and is nothing challenging about his numerous lies since they should be rejected immediately. Neither a Rassenkreis nor an Artenkreis has any bearing on the creation of the cosmos by the LORD per se. "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light" (Genesis 1 : 3). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone according to the Holy Scriptures. εν τουτω εστιν η αγαπη ουχ οτι ημεις ηγαπησαμεν τον θεον αλλ οτι αυτος ηγαπησεν ημας και απεστειλεν τον υιον αυτου ιλασμον περι των αμαρτιων ημων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, the ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1John 4:10). The historicity of Noah’s Flood has always been beyond any legitimate geological and biological dispute. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale. The Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism."

[@MM-yi9zn]

Oh how this magnificent orator is missed. No one can replace his unique intelligence!

[@tjones5719]

Incorrect. People like him are replaceable and that is even part of his own point.

[@stephenireland3816]

MM-yi9zn Are you aware the vast majority of accredited historians believe the evidence strongly supports Jesus physical existence as they do with Cleopatra’s existence from the same time period. Are you also aware these historians aren’t just evangelical bible believing Christians.

[@tjones5719]

@@stephenireland3816 “Are you aware…believing Christians.” Nice red herring, the OP didn’t say anything about Jesus existence.

[@tradehead]

www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2007-Daniel-Peterson.pdf

[@ronartest7748]

joel osteen eats hitchens for breakfast

[@ForNika]

Religion is the biggest obstacle of human progress. The World is waking up to idiocracy of this method of Slavery.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

This video is stupid. He really thinks that those who spend their entire lives hating Jesus are going to be honest about their archeological findings. Man hates God and Jesus proved it, and this incessant rambling demanding evidence is just proof. His knowledge of the Bible is also very weak; he constantly misquotes people and uses religion as a scapegoat to disprove God. Jesus literally came down to prove that religious people have no idea who God is, but once again, Hitchens would know this if he actually understood it.

[@truecatholic8692]

Actually, the Catholic Church gave us modern science. Nowadays, it is the largest charity, it has the largest healthcare system, and has the largest private school system.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

@@truecatholic8692 they control science. They didn’t give us anything’s you’re an idiot if you think the Church is beneficial to humanity in any way.

[@Kamisama77]

​@@truecatholic8692 Really? Tell me why catholic church silenced Gallileo

[@truecatholic8692]

@@Kamisama77 "Neither, the Catholic Church had approved Copernicus in the previous century when he first put forward the heliocentric model. The only thing that the Catholic Church was telling Galileo was that until he could PROVE it, he could only teach his theory as a theory! The telescope he had developed was not powerful enough to prove it, and his theory would remain a theory for another century or more until they could actually prove it. The Catholic Church has always been at the forefront of science, and in fact modern science is a result of the Catholic faith, which is why modern science only developed in Catholicism. For more details, pick up How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization by Thomas E. Woods, Jr."

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us" (Isaiah 33 :22). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Positioning matters. Too many postmodernist fanatics ignore wholesome exegesis. I will refrain from quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson about foolish consistency as irrelevant to evidence right now. You may be aware of what his position was. I have referred to Kritik der reinen Vernunft in German in the past. I have also made references to Critique of Pure Reason in comments (in English) on this video because this Trotskyite monologue has no logical merit whatsoever. It benefits no one who believes in the Lord God omnipotent, and it edifies no one who denies the existence of Almighty God. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the late C. E. Hitchens lied about so many different subjects as often as he did. There was and is nothing challenging about his numerous lies since they should be rejected immediately. Neither a Rassenkreis nor an Artenkreis has any bearing on the creation of the cosmos by the LORD per se. "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light" (Genesis 1 : 3). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone according to the Holy Scriptures. εν τουτω εστιν η αγαπη ουχ οτι ημεις ηγαπησαμεν τον θεον αλλ οτι αυτος ηγαπησεν ημας και απεστειλεν τον υιον αυτου ιλασμον περι των αμαρτιων ημων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, the ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1John 4:10). The historicity of Noah’s Flood has always been beyond any legitimate geological and biological dispute. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale. The Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism."

[@DRpokeme]

Hitch..what a great mind. So sadly missed.

[@wavydavy9816]

Awesome comeback there JB. Imaginative and intellectually superior. Bet he'll never recover from such a slight! 😂

[@wavydavy9816]

'There are no errors in the infallible King James Bible' - WRONG!

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

He was usually very respectful in trolling religions... a meme ahead of his time.

[@66Dmak]

@James Bell He used his mind, which is more than I can say for all you "faith" based believers who leave all logic behind and instead follow along blindly. FOOLS you are

[@aashayhd]

jjpetkusiii and you’re a moron

[@joelstein4657]

Brilliant man and probably one of the greatest orators since Socrates.

[@tjones5719]

So you heard both Socrates and Hitchens, was it on a podcast…no. You can stop making yourself look foolish by not exaggerating. Hitchens was good and a better speaker than most in the time he lived. Leave it at that.

[@stephenireland3816]

joelstein4657 “Brilliant man and probably one of the greatest orators since Socrates.” Saying Jesus never existed is as dumb as saying Cleopatra didn’t exist from the same time period. Raw iQ don’t mean someone isn’t highly biased.

[@tjones5719]

@@stephenireland3816 ​​⁠​⁠”Saying Jesus never existed is as dumb as saying Cleopatra didn’t exist from the same time period.” Not really. Going back that far with as questionable as records can be, if you want to believe someone existed or not, you can make a bit of a case for it either way, just don’t expect it to be all together convincing. Here is the real problem for Hitchens case though and it was in his own argument. Just as he said it doesn’t matter if Socrates did exist or not, his teachings, his thoughts and methods, etc. cannot he denied to still exist. The same could be said if you are inclined for the Jesus figure. Does it really matter that he existed or not if his teachings, methods, etc. still live on? “Raw iQ don’t mean someone isn’t highly biased.” “Brilliant” does not necessarily mean “raw IQ” so you committed a bit of a strawman to try to make a more effective argument. The problem is the two are mutually exclusive. He can still be a brilliant man so that may still be true. The OP is silent in whether he is or is not biased, that’s a red herring you brought up. I also notice this is posted to get my attention for the thread you started a couple hours ago. You dropped off making new posts and deleting old ones as you hadn’t commented for about a couple days - nothing wrong with that but you recently tried to project that change of behavior onto me when it really applies to you.

[@samuraijosh1595]

@@tjones5719nah bro there's secular evidence for the crucifixion, that someone named jesus really did die in the curcifixion by romans. obviusly the resurrecton, the fortelling of the crucifixion are all probably bogus. but hitchens shouldnt have gone as far to say jeusus probably never existed or whatever. thats just factually wrong at that point.

[@tjones5719]

@@samuraijosh1595 Your response did nothing to refute what I said. If you have more of an on point rebuttal let me know “nah..,that point.”

[@ergonomover]

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” ― Christopher Hitchens

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 The burden of proof or of convincing lies with the person making a positive claim. The bible is not evidence that the bible is true (circular reasoning is a fallacy). You claim it is? Up to you to produce independent evidence to support your claim, or reasoned arguments, you have the floor. The "creation of the world" is clearly seen by NASA, baby planets forming within their star's accretion disc - not evidence of any god, much less of yours, too bad for you. Don't be a sore loser.

[@judyives1832]

@@jos.petkus509 There no evidence for something that doesn’t exist. You need to provide evidence that it does exist. Religious people have no good evidence and can’t explain any of the contradictions of religion.

[@dthomas9230]

@@judyives1832 Something else they have difficulty explaining is what is religion for? What good is it? Why does USA a lot 9.1% of its GDP to religion, tax free? America's god can make midgets grow and if you send him money for a new jet, your seed money will grow. Trumpanzees have 48 chromosomes and thus no ability to reason. Tesla knew the basis of universal energy with magnetic radio waves and some magnetically active regions on earth besides the polar ice caps. (Magnetic north will switch to magnetic south pole as happens every billion years or so.)

[@John_Lyle]

@@jos.petkus509 You want evidence that the bible contains discrepancies? *Matthew 1* 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Compare with *Luke 3* 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, So how did *Jacob* beget Joseph, son of *Heli* N. Scudder

[@jjpetkusiii]

There is no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. “Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice. Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus (Philippians 4 : 4-7). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Larry Taunton wrote his book after C. E. Hitchens died, and too many fanatical postmodernists ignore wholesome exegesis. "Hitch" tried to amuse uneducated atheists only to sell them his ridiculous books. μη θαυμασης οτι ειπον σοι δει υμας γεννηθηναι ανωθεν Translated flawlessly into the inerrant King James Bible, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3 : 7). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in Him testifies of His eternal holiness, and the fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that speaks for itself. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A.D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and that is what amoral hypocrites who plagiarize ungodly charlatans along with their fellow illiterate narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand. Nothing about them pertains to ecclesiology, ontology, cosmology, epistemology, love, common sense, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, classical literature, the scientific method, British Common Law, advanced prophetic eschatology or the Lord God omnipotent whenever they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools.

[@kathrynroberts248]

I miss this man. I miss his keen, critical mind, and the boldness of his convictions. The world is worse for his loss.

[@kathrynroberts248]

What are you talking about? I said nothing about fairy tales. I think you meant to comment on the video, not reply to my comment.

[@thepatquinn]

@Howard Bell Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him.

[@jjpetkusiii]

@@kathrynroberts248 The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. επερωτηθεις δε υπο των φαρισαιων ποτε ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου απεκριθη αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου μετα παρατηρησεως In the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation" (Luke 17:20). Charles Lyell’s geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy in obscurantist jargon. Salvation through faith alone in the only-begotten Son of God testifies of His holiness, and it is always a miracle of grace. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound sodomite according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." Although his ridiculous atheist psychobabble is altogether immaterial to ecclesiology, philosophy, linguistics, historiography, exegesis, and the scientific method, his bizarre anti-Semitic misogyny still appalls me. The veracity of the Gospel speaks for itself, and I never converse with inanimate objects. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to Chagas disease in 1882, and rational exegetes worldwide understand the the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a blatant Marxist cyber fraud.

[@mwudzy]

You’re a brainwashed moron, no offence!

[@StargazerFromBC]

@@jjpetkusiii and still ZERO evidence for your magical invisible sky daddy

[@ergonomover]

God to Adam: 'Do not eat of this luscious fruit I'm dangling before your eyes - disobey me and you will die.' Adam to God: 'Okay but if I cannot eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, how do I know if disobedience is good or evil?' God to Adam: 'Trust with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding. Don't question Authority, don't think for yourself.' Adam to God: 'Whatever, will you at least tell me what is "die" and death, is it good or evil - oh right, you prefer to punish me (and all my descendants) for lacking knowledge that you withheld.' Makes perfect sense for a religion in need of a scapegoat.

[@jos.petkus509]

No

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 "No", you cannot think for yourself? No, you cannot question Authority? What a shame, we'll do it for you.

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Evidence of what? Where is your evidence? The bible is not evidence that the bible is true, circular reasoning is a fallacy. In fact, I have thousands of data points that tend to refute religion. Sad day for you.

[@jos.petkus509]

No, you are wrong again. You forgot to define your terms. We have all the documented evidence about Count Lyev Nikolayevich Tolstoy that we need. There are no significant questions about the historicity of the Lord Jesus Christ today. This silly anti-Semitic video contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of your luncheons is necessary. QED.

[@ergonomover]

"On the (bogus) deathbed conversion - I spent my father’s final weeks and days at his bedside and watched him draw his final breath and die, and can assure you that there was no hint of any sort of conversion (as I’m sure you have already guessed). In fact, we barely spoke about religion at all except for joint expressions of frustration at the god botherers who made the rounds in the ICU and other units where dying people could be preyed upon by vulturous Christians." --Hitch's son, Alexander Hitchens

[@ergonomover]

Charles Darwin's daughter similarly had to fight the lie that Darwin doubted his theory or converted on his deathbed. Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899) had to fight the lie that Thomas Paine had died “howling and terrified”, recanting his assaults on organised religion and the reliability of the Bible. Ingersoll won a bet, Paine died a "blaspheming infidel". Fake archeologist Ron Wyatt's top collaborator at Durupinar rock formation (claimed to be Noah's Ark) was named David Fasold. He broke with Wyatt and denounced the fraud, then he fell sick. Evangelists came to his deathbed, pleading that he retract his denunciation. Then they said he had a last minute change of heart, denied by Fasold's friend Dr Collins, an actual geologist. No respect for the dead, so desperate as to lie, to mitigate the message?

[@arctic6603]

When Chris died they left him out on the curb to rot, in a week he smelled worst than his lectures

[@ergonomover]

@@arctic6603 Lectures have odors now, dude, what are you smoking? Yeah, we are all going to die and rot away, it's a fact.

[@trevormj]

@@arctic6603 - that is a sick comment to make about any human being - least of all CHRISTOPHER Hitchens..... as his mother named him.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

With every dumbass quote you post, you only reveal how uninformed you are. There is never any “evidence” of conversion. Conversion happens when you simply believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay for your sins and was resurrected in three days. Boom: you are now “converted” if you sincerely believe it. You’re idiotic mindset of needing proof of every tiny little shit-stain in your life has corrupted your ability to understand what the word “believe” means. It means you believe it, that’s it. Don’t expect rainbows to come flying out of someone’s ass when they finally admit the truth.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing was debated here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. “He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" (Micah 6:8). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Positioning matters. Too many postmodernist fanatics ignore wholesome exegesis. I will refrain from quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson about foolish consistency as irrelevant to evidence right now. You may be aware of what his position was. I have referred to Kritik der reinen Vernunft in German in the past. I have also made references to Critique of Pure Reason in comments (in English) on this video because this Trotskyite monologue has no logical merit whatsoever. It benefits no one who believes in the Lord God omnipotent, and it edifies no one who denies the existence of Almighty God. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the late C. E. Hitchens lied about so many different subjects as often as he did. There was and is nothing challenging about his numerous lies since they should be rejected immediately. Neither a Rassenkreis nor and Artenkreis has any bearing on the creation of the cosmos by the LORD per se. "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light" (Genesis 1 : 3). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone according to the Holy Scriptures. εν τουτω εστιν η αγαπη ουχ οτι ημεις ηγαπησαμεν τον θεον αλλ οτι αυτος ηγαπησεν ημας και απεστειλεν τον υιον αυτου ιλασμον περι των αμαρτιων ημων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, the ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1John 4:10). The historicity of Noah’s Flood has always been beyond any legitimate geological and biological dispute. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale. The Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism."

[@richardreweti8671]

Sadly the once-in-a-lifetime voice in the wilderness will be sadly missed by those of us who truly believe in freedom.

[@tjones5719]

But in the truest sense on this topic, he was against freedom. So not a good piece of insight from you.

[@knightsnight5929]

@@tjones5719 In what way was he against freedom?

[@tjones5719]

@@knightsnight5929 “in what way was he against freedom?” I’m surprised you don’t know this. His God is Not Great book included “Above all, Hitchens argues that the concept of an omniscient God has profoundly damaged humanity, and proposes that the world might be a great deal better off without "him."” He didn’t want people to freely worship a god.

[@ergonomover]

@@tjones5719 He did not propose that people's freedom of worship should be taken away, unless you can provide such a quote. I'm not surprised you would misconstrue this issue.

[@tjones5719]

@@ergonomover “he does not propose that peoples freedom to worship be taken away”…”and proposes that the world might be a great deal better off without him.” Sad that you avoid what is right in front of you. And if that wasn’t obvious enough for you take this quote “Free exercise of religion? No, thanks.” He spoke against religion, said it was harmful, said it created wickedness…when a person has such bias and some very ill informed, there is no path other than to say religion should be gone as he said. To not say that is to say you advocate for wickedness and harm. You bury your head in the sand. I don’t. I see Hitchens for his good and for his reprehensible because I listen and choose to question…you have that up.

[@leontich46]

"We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality." The colonial era justification of genocide of native peoples by various denominations of Christianity shows the true face of "morality" pushed by the Christian church. That is all about power and control. True morality does not need religion, primatologist Frans de Waal brilliantly showed this in his studies.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing was debated here. The fulfillment of prophecy over the millennia confirms the veracity of the Gospel always continuing to speak for itself. Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of His eternal holiness. ο δε πιλατος βουλοbbμενος τω οχλω το ικανον ποιησαι απελυσεν αυτοις τον βαραββαν και παρεδωκεν τον ιησουν φραγελλωσας ινα σταυρωθη Translated flawlessly, the original Biblical text reads: "And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified" (Mark 15:15). Born of virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and its obviously revisionist psychobabble always was nonessential. Charles Lyell's geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist jargon. Both the accuracy and clarity of the inerrant King James Bible are unrivalled in any modern language. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures that clearly record the death, burial and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" inasmuch as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a ridiculous Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deleted important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an excellent hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, unadulterated linguistic derivations, British Common Law, or the scientific method, and anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation in any case.

[@AntiWarTexan]

Nice try, Alex.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. "Hitch" tried to amuse uneducated atheists only to sell them his ridiculous books. μη θαυμασης οτι ειπον σοι δει υμας γεννηθηναι ανωθεν Translated flawlessly into the inerrant King James Bible, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3 : 7). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in Him testifies of His holiness, and the fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that speaks for itself. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A.D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and that is what amoral hypocrites who plagiarize ungodly charlatans along with their fellow illiterate narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand. Nothing about them pertains to ecclesiology, ontology, cosmology, epistemology, love, common sense, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, classical literature, the scientific method, British Common Law, advanced prophetic eschatology or the Lord God omnipotent whenever they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools.

[@nobbynoris]

@@jjpetkusiii Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning There you are, you said it yourself. And btw the violent atrocities perpetrated against Catholics (inevitably, almost always Irish) and native peoples in developing countries was so, so often carried out by Protestants who believed that the King James Bible - a text that did not even exist before 1611 - made them by moral default superior to other Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus, all of whom had sacred texts going back thousands of years. Check it out - there is this thing called history which gives the lie to so much of your deluded ramblings.

[@nobbynoris]

And Christopher Hitchens was not antisemitic - he was himself half-Jewish. You, on the other hand, sound like a klansman.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There is no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth" (John 1 : 14). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. επερωτηθεις δε υπο των φαρισαιων ποτε ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου απεκριθη αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου μετα παρατηρησεως In the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation" (Luke 17:20). Charles Lyell’s geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy in obscurantist jargon. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound sinner according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages when he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." Although his ridiculous atheist psychobabble is altogether immaterial to ecclesiology, philosophy, linguistics, historiography, exegesis, and the scientific method, his bizarre misogyny still appalls me. The veracity of the Gospel has been confirmed by the fulfillment of prophecy that continues to speak for itself over the millennia, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. I never converse with inanimate objects, and no species of plant or animal came from another genus living anywhere on Earth. No offense is intended because anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. The very term "theory of evolution" is a scientific misnomer inasmuch as it cannot be proven by observation, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been a hackneyed Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since the unauthorized origin of that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context.

[@elliottpaine9259]

I'm an ex member of a religious sect, and while being well known for my sharp memory and intellect among the group, I was called and flown out to the HQ of the founder of the sect to help him remember bible verses during his teaching. His health was declining and I filled that lack for him. Yet he was around 70-75 at the time. The point of this story is being 70 and his memory being in such a decline. Since the gospel stories are recorded around 70 - 100 AD, that would put the authors of gospels at well over 70 years old to write down the story of jesus. This being said im sure you can put the pieces together. lol

[@jjpetkusiii5213]

No

[@ergonomover]

I think I get it, the gospel stories were either not recorded by eyewitnesses or the eyewitnesses were too old to be reliable. It seems life expectancy at birth for the people 2000 years ago was about 25 years of age. Odds are none of the gospel stories were written by eyewitnesses. Hearsay evidence is known to be weak and unreliable.

[@jjpetkusiii5213]

ευλογητος ο θεος και πατηρ του κυριου ημων ιησου χριστου ο κατα το πολυ αυτου ελεος αναγεννησας ημας εις ελπιδα ζωσαν δι αναστασεως ιησου χριστου εκ νεκρων Translated into the perfect English of the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead" (1Peter 1:3). Salvation is of the LORD by grace through faith alone in the only-begotten Son of God alone.

[@ergonomover]

@@jjpetkusiii5213 Would it be "malicious" to point out that your wonderful King James Version was ordered by a bisexual man? James the First wrote several love-letters to a young courtier named George Villiers, calling him "my wife". Science informs us that the Earth did not exist "in the beginning", errant from the very beginning is the KJV.

[@jjpetkusiii5213]

No.

[@ergonomover]

“Mental slavery is mental death, and every man who has given up his intellectual freedom is the living coffin of his dead soul. In this sense, every church is a cemetery and every creed an epitaph.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll, (1833-1899) The Complete Works of Robert G. Ingersoll

[@jos.petkus509]

Not you again.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Yes, me. Will you continue spamming like a mental slave?

[@roysharma3942]

Is that the only book you read ergo?

[@donpetty7584]

My opinion of your quote is it's a very negative thought distortion. Christians have been liberated from death and the fear of it through the cross of Christ. In Christ there is true freedom from the passions of our fallen nature. "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed through the renewing of your mind". The mind is the "heart" of a human being. Feed it good thoughts and it reaps good behavior. Feed it bad thoughts or distorted thoughts and we reap the same behavior. That is true whether you are a Christian, an agnostic, or an atheist. There have been a number of so called Christians or Christian entities that have committed murders etc. That is against God's nature. But committing such acts are also true of atheists. Hitler, Mussolini, Putin, and a host of others come to mind. I'd have to say that most murderers and rapists don't believe in God. Do you think that's a fair assessment? But, you don't see me ranting about such atheists. I have attended several very good churches made up of very good people. I wonder if Mr Ingersoll ever attended any or if he just wanted to rant about churches/Christians and paint a wide swath of with a paintbrush of a conspiracy theory which is untrue with no basis in fact? Do you not see the cognitive distortion in his statement? A major one is "all or nothing" thinking, also called "black or white" thinking. It's either all good or all bad. Another distortion I see in his statement is "Jumping to Conclusions", both "Mind Reading" and "Fortune-telling". A third looks like "Overgeneralization". Do you see what I am saying? This is true freedom to think rationally. I think Mr Ingersoll has gone to the mind graveyard, not us Christians. share.upmc.com/2021/05/cognitive-distortions/ I'd suggest reading that article. it's non-religious, yet hits home about the distorted thinking I see in Mr. Ingersoll's, and perhaps your, thinking.

[@stephenireland3816]

Gods word says each man is a slave to sin and that Jesus/God set all the captives free! Unfortunately many don’t realise they are slaves.

[@ergonomover]

“Our civilization is not Christian. It does not come from the skies. It is not a result of "inspiration." It is the child of invention, of discovery, of applied knowledge -- that is to say, of science. When man becomes great and grand enough to admit that all have equal rights; when thought is untrammeled; when worship shall consist in doing useful things; when religion means the discharge of obligations to our fellow-men, then, and not until then, will the world be civilized.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899) civil war veteran, statesman and orator

[@jos.petkus509]

Your jokes are not even funny. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Colonel Ingersoll was not joking, there are no cartoons here, you've demonstrated nothing but gullibility, are you ill?

[@jos.petkus509]

Nonsense.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Yes, everything you post looks like gibberish.

[@stephenireland3816]

@ergonomover You sure do like quoting a lot of Philosophy.

[@ergonomover]

"The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference." --biologist Richard Dawkins

[@jos.petkus509]

"Hitch" stopped changing his shirts on 15 December 2011 A. D., but this silly anti-Semitic video still contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Who did Hitch intend to harm? Ridding people of delusions is helping them.

[@cj1000]

@@ergonomover I guess it's like when you tell kids that Santa isn't real, there's some sadness for the loss of the magic. And Santa doesn't give eternal life!

[@ergonomover]

@@cj1000 If a better explanation of the universe than big bang and evolution could be demonstrated, I might find it saddening and frustrating to have been in the wrong so long. But then I'd drag myself off the floor and move along, maybe happy to be on the right track again.

[@donpetty7584]

How does life begin from dead matter? That's insane. It can't. And for life to begin, it requires more complex molecules than the simple molecules that are believed to have existed at the start. And for those complex molecules to form, it requires a living organism to form them. How can those complex molecules that have to be formed by a living organism be formed without a living organism? They can't. So, how did life begin? It's a conundrum that scientists can't answer. Surely Dawkins understands this as a biologist. You understand this, right? So, we have evolutionists that "believe" in fairy tales of life beginning from dead organic matter, enter the lightening scene from the movie "Young Frankenstien". Yet Christians are made fun of for believing in the reality of an eternal God? gothca Ask a microbiologist about what I stated. They'll confirm it.

[@ergonomover]

"To 'choose' dogma and faith over doubt and experience is to throw out the ripening vintage and to reach greedily for the Kool-Aid." - Christopher Hitchens (God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything)

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

I would be careful of over-quoting Christopher Hitchens until it begins to resemble scripture.

[@ergonomover]

@@maskedmarvyl4774 I would go on carefully countering religious spam by user jjepkusiii (who slanders Hitchens) with quotes by the man no longer around to defend himself. If it looks like scripture to you, perhaps it is because the man was gifted, and his message profound.

[@donpetty7584]

I think Hitchens was a successful but very dysfunctional person. That means his thoughts were dysfunctional, hence his drinking and smoking and who knows what else. You're quoting someone I don't have much respect for.

[@jounisuninen]

@@donpetty7584 Hitchens was manifesting his atheism rather obsessively. In fact I got the impression that he tried to convince himself more that anyone else.

[@lanazak773]

“I do think people struggle when they can’t find meaning. But that doesn’t mean there IS meaning.” -Some Nihilist Somewhere

[@ergonomover]

"Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy." --Colonel Robert Ingersoll, statesman and orator

[@solb101]

When the Hitch wakes up and is sent back to sleep that will be his eternal punishment but not before wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[@ergonomover]

@@solb101 Coercion must be the weakest and lamest argument in favor of the existence of God or gods. What part of Hitchens will wake up now that the atoms of his body have redispersed to universe from which they came?

[@stephenireland3816]

Yep and no-one need to suffer eternal punishment for evil deeds because God payed the price for our evil deeds when he died on the cross physically.

[@jounisuninen]

@@stephenireland3816 Unfortunately Hitchens did not want that forgiveness.

[@stephenireland3816]

@jounisuninen If hitch was self-righteousness he wouldn’t have seen a need to be forgiven.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate.The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation” (Hebrews 9 : 27-28). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Positioning matters. Too many postmodernist fanatics ignore wholesome exegesis. I will refrain from quoting Ralph Waldo Emerson about foolish consistency as irrelevant to evidence right now. You may be aware of what his position was. I have referred to Kritik der reinen Vernunft in German in the past. I have also made references to Critique of Pure Reason in comments (in English) on this video because this Trotskyite monologue has no logical merit whatsoever. It benefits no one who believes in the Lord God omnipotent, and it edifies no one who denies the existence of Almighty God. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the late C. E. Hitchens lied about so many different subjects as often as he did. There was and is nothing challenging about his numerous lies since they should be rejected immediately. Neither a Rassenkreis nor an Artenkreis has any bearing on the creation of the cosmos by the LORD per se. "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light" (Genesis 1 : 3). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him, the only-begotten Son of God alone according to the Holy Scriptures. εν τουτω εστιν η αγαπη ουχ οτι ημεις ηγαπησαμεν τον θεον αλλ οτι αυτος ηγαπησεν ημας και απεστειλεν τον υιον αυτου ιλασμον περι των αμαρτιων ημων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, the ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1John 4:10). The historicity of Noah’s Flood has always been beyond any legitimate geological and biological dispute. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale. The Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism."

[@stevedd50]

superb as usual

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

Hitchens was amazing. I wish I could have sat down for dinner with him.

[@tjones5719]

He (correction) was intelligent but also biased on some subjects.

[@stephenireland3816]

drewlovelyhell4892 “I wish I could have sat down for dinner with him.” Make your you bring plenty of wine though🤔

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

@@stephenireland3816 Way ahead of you! 😁🍷🍷🍷

[@slowlearnerschessclub7983]

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 2 Peter 1:16

[@slowlearnerschessclub7983]

@@jjpetkusiii5213 Thank you for your feedback. What strikes me is that people think that attacking and making fun of the Bible is somehow intelligent. It does not require much intelligence to attack something that is firmly established, while defending their ambiguous positions. That's why I'm sharing the word of God.

[@slowlearnerschessclub7983]

May God continue to show us, and this world His mercy in these final days. Good bye for now my friend.

[@jjpetkusiii5213]

Amen! The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. επερωτηθεις δε υπο των φαρισαιων ποτε ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου απεκριθη αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου μετα παρατηρησεως In the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation" (Luke 17:20). Charles Lyell’s geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy in obscurantist language. Salvation through faith alone in the only-begotten Son of God testifies of His holiness, and it is always a miracle of grace. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound sodomite according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." Although his ridiculous atheist psychobabble is altogether immaterial to ecclesiology, philosophy, linguistics, historiography, exegesis, and the scientific method, his bizarre anti-Semitic misogyny still appalls me.

[@ergonomover]

@@jjpetkusiii5213 Prince of peace who (supposedly) said he came not in peace but with a sword and that the unrighteous will be punished everlastingly, which is not a peaceful promise. So many contradictions, yet you believe blindly in the bible writers' authority.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4). απο δε αρχης κτισεως αρσεν και θηλυ εποιησεν αυτους ο θεος Translated flawlessly, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ say: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10: 6). Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith solely in Him testifies of His holiness, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth. The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Even the term "theory of evolution" is a scientific misnomer because Darwin's racist hypotheses cannot be proven by observation. Of course, they have never been proven since they are inherently false, and the late C. E. Hitchens wrote turgid Marxist prose. Sadly, the Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar. Although he died of metastasized cancer on 15 December 2011 A. D. in Texas after a long illness, his atheist followers are unaware that his ridiculous and immoral claims have NO substantial basis in historiography, linguistics, philosophy, ecclesiology, classical literature, British Common Law or the scientific method. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882, and this stupid video still mutters incoherently for itself. Its gauche revisionism and bizarre misogyny continue to appall me, but rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been a ridiculous Bolshie cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes accurate and important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning.

[@PFTome]

“Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I always think that the chances of finding out what really is going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied.” ― Douglas Adams

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing was debated here. Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of His eternal holiness. τις ημας χωρισει απο της αγαπης του χριστου θλιψις η στενοχωρια η διωγμος η λιμος η γυμνοτης η κινδυνος η μαχαιρα Translated into the perfect English of the inerrant King James Bible, that ancient Koine Greek text reads: "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?" (Romans 8 : 35). The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after He arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth, and the historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute. Charles Lyell's geological deception set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist jargon. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. The alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A.D. at a cancer treatment facility in Texas after a long illness. No offense is since his fatuous "argument" had NO legitimate basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, British Common Law, the scientific method, advanced prophetic eschatology or unadulterated linguistic derivations. Anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation in any case, and Darwinism is a vile racist fairy tale. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and it is very sad that amoral hypocrites along with their fellow illiterate narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand how fanatical skepticism fails at everything when they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools.

[@roysharma3942]

An honest reflection

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Not any more................................falundafa

[@ziff_1]

@@jjpetkusiii what's it like being insane?

[@jeremymanson1781]

​@@ziff_1well of you read all that incoherent rant you must have a pretty good idea

[@paulway9926]

Totally right Christopher and we all miss you very much.

[@tjones5719]

Nice lie but while I respect him I don’t miss him. And he wasn’t totally right with fallacies about the age, fallacies about the central doctrine…he makes things up like the best of some theists.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

He was an emotional wreck and did not have a clue concerning the true meaning of life. We fell here from Heaven are are supposed to seek God and to return home to Heaven, not deny that Heaven and God both exist, wow, what a terrible path to take, backwards.

[@abubaseet]

@@jeffforsythe9514 Prove this god of yours exists and that he or she has commanded that we do any of those things.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing at all was debated in this contentious video. "Hitch" tried to amuse humorless atheists only to sell them his ridiculous books. The late C. E. Hitchens contradicted himself many times over. His fatuous argument has no substantial basis in absolute objective truth or proven facts. He did prove that his nihilistic psychobabble wastes everyone's time. No further explanation of his pointless monologue is warranted. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Good evening, @@jeffforsythe9514 . Thank you for your astute observation. The Lord Jesus Christ said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away" (Mark 13 : 31). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the only-begotten Son of God because of His finished work on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Shalom aleichem!

[@Oldtinear]

+TheNthMouse You accuse Hitch of 'distorting facts and making up shit' Please give some examples, otherwise what you assert without evidence can be dismissed the same way.

[@jos.petkus509]

No, you have no evidence at all. Believe the Gospel today. You lied to yourself again. QED.

[@truemamrdi4all]

The fact is he prefers the existential probability of Socrates to Jesus. There is no rationale for such position and for a man that does not believe in God, this position is totally irrelevant. I think the prominent message of Socrates is, that you follow, whatever your community prescribes, because this obeyance is the basis for civilization. Its negation equals to depravity.

[@jos.petkus509]

Atheism has always been irrelevant to the existence of Socrates and the historiography of the infallible Holy Scriptures regardless of language. No further explanation is required. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language. He denied them by exercising his free will to do so. “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear” (Hebrews 11 : 1-3). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. The veracity of the Gospel speaks for itself. The only-begotten Son of God came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him alone. και μη φοβηθητε απο των αποκτεινοντων το σωμα την δε ψυχην μη δυναμενων αποκτειναι φοβηθητε δε μαλλον τον δυναμενον και ψυχην και σωμα απολεσαι εν γεεννη In perfect English, those ancient Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matt. 10 : 28). Academic frauds who reject creationism are witless liars, and none of those narcissistic bores wants their character flaws to be exposed by the chronological accuracy of the inerrant King James Bible that is unrivaled in any modern language. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and the historicity of Noah's Flood has always been well beyond legitimate dispute. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith alone in Him testifies of His holiness, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C.R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a hackneyed Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since the unauthorized origin of the illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and accurate comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and no species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus. The crackpot fabrication that "Jesus of Nazareth is a myth" has been summarily dismissed by sane people everywhere, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. It is very sad that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" only amounted to prolix revisionist psychobabble with NO concrete basis in cosmology, epistemology, ontology, ecclesiology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, British Common Law, the scientific method or advanced prophetic eschatology, and his thoroughly nonessential rhetoric typified myopic nihilism in favor of its own fetid decay.

[@jeremygaynor2410]

this is the great gift of enlightenment thinking… the scientific method and the dispassionate rationale analysis, stripped of dogma , fantasy, delusion and superstition (the bed fellows of illiteracy and misguided belief)

[@jos.petkus509]

"Hitch" stopped changing his shirts on 15 December 2011 A. D., but this silly anti-Semitic video still contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@truecatholic8692]

Actually, the Catholic Church gave us modern science.

[@donpetty7584]

Ha!! It requires faith to believe in the theory of evolution. So much for the scientific method and dispassionate rational analysis. You can't reproduce a crossover in species in the lab. Lots of things you can't reproduce in the lab that the theory claims is true. I would add that I believe that atheistic thinking has placed an unintended bias into science. It doesn't consider religious teachings at all as possibly being true. It "assumes" (ass u me) all religious teachings are myth. How scientific!

[@mariadelpilar1590]

I could listen to Hitch all day

[@jjpetkusiii]

The "woke" ideology typifies more than enough of the postmodernist nightmare. Atheism per se vainly presumes that people cannot see any revelation of Almighty God in His glory and holiness. Such a myopic vision epitomizes an immoral and very unscientific array of irrational dystopias at their worst.

[@ProgressiveTruthSeekers]

There was no such thing as the Jewish bible, it was, the Hebrew bible. The people were Hebrews! Just the fact!

[@ergonomover]

You're talking about the Tanakh, also known as the Pentateuch or the 5 books of Moses? It includes small portions in Aramaic (mostly in the books of Daniel and Ezra), so not purely "Hebrew", correct? I don't know it for a fact, but it looks like Mormonism and Islam borrowed heavily from Christianity, which borrowed from the Hebrews, who borrowed from Sumerians (ex: Baal and El), who were inspired by the Babylonian Marduk. Just saying.

[@vcushite2905]

You're 100 percent correct, they were Hebrews and it was, the Hebrew bible. Today's people are highly brainwashed.

[@TheSeekersofTruth]

@Progressive Truth Seekers, thank you bringing the facts! You are correct!

[@roysharma3942]

Heh Ergo, you seem to have delved into the Book. What's going on? Are you changing your mind?

[@jjpetkusiii]

There is no debate here. The veracity of the Gospel speaks for itself. ειπεν δε ο φιλιππος ει πιστευεις εξ ολης της καρδιας εξεστιν αποκριθεις δε ειπεν πιστευω τον υιον του θεου ειναι τον ιησουν χριστον Translated flawlessly, the original text reads: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" (Acts 8:37). The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. Denying salvation from sin by grace though faith alone is the consummate fool's errand, and atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God. The late C. E. Hitchens wrote turgid Marxist prose, but the babbling Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound drunkard according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages. Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and even the term "theory of evolution" is a misnomer. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible in English long before C. R. Darwin died in 1882. This ridiculous and immoral video mutters incoherently for itself. It is not only politically incorrect and misogynist psychobabble, but it is also a complete fabrication with NO substantial basis in historiography, linguistics, philosophy, literature, archaeology or the scientific method. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive “FFreeThinker” website is a gauche Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context.

[@James-v6f9r]

The human cell reflects the complexity and the miraculous intelligent design of Gods mind. Nothing a human could ever create.

[@John_Lyle]

Since you haven't managed to establish the existence of any form of deity, let alone the nameless deity of your imagination, the complexity of the human cell (far less complex than an amoeba) reflects nothing about your anonymous deity.

[@tjones5719]

That would be confirmation bias. And you are wrong if I look at animal cells in general when you say “Nothing a human could ever create.” Remember Dolly the cloned sheep, humans have created. And if you stick to human cells then you have stem cell research that creates human cells.

[@ergonomover]

"I have met some highly intelligent believers, but history has no record to say that [s]he knew or understood the mind of god. Yet this is precisely the qualification which the godly must claim-so modestly and so humbly-to possess. It is time to withdraw our 'respect' from such fantastic claims, all of them aimed at the exertion of power over other humans in the real and material world." - Christopher Hitchens (The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever)

[@FlandiddlyandersFRS]

In a nutshell. 👍

[@donpetty7584]

Yes, the scripture states that we have the mind of Christ. In some respects that is true, such as when God speaks to us from His Word. But, I've found that He is largely silent much of the time. Then we have scriptural teachings to falls back on, but we have to be very careful how such teachings are interpreted. The Resurrection of Christ is also a fantastic claim, as is that Christ's death was to pay for the redemption of those that chose to believe in Him. The New Testament is full of what Mr. Hitchens would call "fantastic claims". And I agree, they are shocking, difficult to believe or fathom. But God gives grace and faith to believe and trust in them. Without such grace man is incapable of believing them in his own strength. I think reading the biographies of Hudson Taylor, Dawson Trotman and Billy Graham would take variance with Hitchens' claim that there is no record that these folks understood the mind of God. On the contrary, I think God used them to bring great multitudes into His Kingdom. Trotman's and Graham's organizations live on today. These organizations' motives are to bring the Good News of the Gospel of Christ to as many as possible. If you want to speak of the exertion of power over other humans in the real and material world, why don't we discuss the corporate world and the corruption there? I've experienced this first hand as an accountant, also with the legal system as an expert witness in a lawsuit. I had to leave a job because of the corruption of the people I was working for. Do you realize the harm, both professionally and financially, such corruption causes? Does Hitchens speak about such corruption or is he just about religion?

[@jounisuninen]

@@FlandiddlyandersFRS Like Hitchens dark mind.

[@FlandiddlyandersFRS]

@@jounisuninen Hitchens was a shining light for humanity. The truth he spoke obviously hurts.

[@jos.petkus509]

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4).

[@ChadIsAmazingMakeADifference]

Legend. thanks for telling the truth. love & respect.

[@jos.petkus509]

"Hitch" stopped changing his shirts on 15 December 2011 A. D., but this silly anti-Semitic video still contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@andrewg2032]

Except that it’s false

[@HawklordLI]

@@jos.petkus509 He was part Jewish himself Einstein....

[@Ancient_Man_In_Modern_World]

@@HawklordLI Judaism is a practice.. Not a bloodline...

[@roems6396]

@@Ancient_Man_In_Modern_World Jewish is also considered a culture. Many people consider themselves Jewish, but are atheists.

[@baconmasterXD]

Disappointed with the prolific amount of religious sheeple in the comments

[@jjpetkusiii]

I agree. There is no problem with the inerrant King James Bible in Modern English today; nor is there any legitimate "controversy" about its infallibility in the lingua franca of our contemporary world except in the corrupt minds and foul mouths of liars, deceivers, heretics, apostates, illiterate plagiarists, simple-minded fools and obnoxious atheists. Salvation is of the LORD by grace through faith alone in the only-begotten Son of God alone regardless of language today. The Lord Jesus Christ said, "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3:7).

[@jjpetkusiii]

***** Amen! τις ημας χωρισει απο της αγαπης του χριστου θλιψις η στενοχωρια η διωγμος η λιμος η γυμνοτης η κινδυνος η μαχαιρα "Translated into the perfect English of the infallible King James Bible, that ancient Koine Greek text reads: Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?" (Romans 8:35). Only the Lord Jesus Christ saves lost sinners by grace through faith alone in Him, the only-begotten Son of God, alone.

[@charleshopkins8579]

EtScripturaeSanctae Dear +Oldtinear you need serious professional Help!!

[@Oldtinear]

Charles Hopkins So, if I disagree with your views on religion I 'need serious professional Help', do I? That's an improvement - most Christians on this thread say that people who disagree with their views on religion need burning!

[@Oldtinear]

***** He almost certainly has more than three sock accounts - the silliest, emptiest, repetitive drivel from any of them gets 9 or ten thumbs up. All the counter opinions show none, because of thumbing down.

[@ergonomover]

“We owe a huge debt to Galileo for emancipating us all from the stupid belief in an Earth-centered or man-centered (let alone God-centered) system. He quite literally taught us our place and allowed us to go on to make extraordinary advances in knowledge.” ― Christopher Hitchens

[@jos.petkus509]

Not you again.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Yes, me. Why not use arguments to persuade me that the bible is divinely inspired and not bronze age mythology?

[@fenyoaeemckinney2144]

Ask any of today’s millennials and they’ve probably never heard of Galileo, Plato, Socrates, etc.!🤪

[@ergonomover]

@@fenyoaeemckinney2144 According to the (Catholic) Pew research institute, belief in God and the supernatural is fading fast with millennials, maybe the void can be filled with some history.

[@donpetty7584]

The first rational statement I've seen you quote from Mr. Hitchens.

[@BLAB-it5un]

The saddest injustice is that Hitchens has died and Dinesh is still out there spewing his ignorance, hysteria and stupidity. How anyone can still be hoodwinked by religions is beyond me.

[@tjones5719]

You are saying that it’s sad that someone isn’t dead. That’s a bit morbid and fairly hateful. I look at it this way, if what someone says triggers you, the problem is you not them in general. And there are plenty of atheists along with theists who get hoodwinked as you call it by their respective religions. I mean most atheists come to this channel unable to properly question and see the fallacies in speakers like Hitchens. My point is it’s not a phenomenon exclusive to theists.

[@John_Lyle]

_"The amazing thing is that every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics:_ _You are all stardust._ _You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution - weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way they could get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be here today._ *Lawrence Krauss*

[@jos.petkus509]

No.

[@jos.petkus509]

No.

[@jos.petkus509]

No.

[@jos.petkus509]

That was just more of your atheist nonsense. Stop spamming. Yours were insignificant assertions. No further explanation is necessary. QED.

[@jos.petkus509]

No.

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

I'm an atheist, but Hitchens is being dishonest here. "Take no thought for the morrow" is Not the "central doctrine of Jesus's teachings". Hitchens has taken that statement, and Made it his central argument against Jesus's philosophy, and has decided for us that it is Jesus's central doctrine. Then, from that dishonest assertion which is provably false, he makes a laundry list of grievances, based on this statement by Jesus. I support many of Hitchens's arguments against religion, but this is one of his weakest, because it is one of his least honest. And this is Just After talking about the importance of the Socratic philosophy in arguing honestly.

[@ergonomover]

If Hitchens had changed the statement to: "sell all your possessions, and give the money to the poor", would that have been more central as doctrine or less? That Jesus was preaching the coming doomsday end of the world is the subject of biblical scholar Bart Ehrman's book: “Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium." It might not be considered "central doctrine" since early Christianity decided to re-frame the fiery apocalyptic rabbi into a Prince of Peace. Thus, I dispute your charge of dishonesty on Hitchen's part.

[@namaste758]

Take no heed for tomorrow is not meant as a form of practical life advice. It's meant as a suggestion to live differently psychologically. Meaning, stop worrying about tomorrow. Deal with what needs done now and let tomorrow take care of itself. In modern words we would say live in the now, or live in the present. It's advice on how to live a happy, anxiety-free life

[@namaste758]

@Nehemiah Scudder Jesus is answering the question of the ruler who is asking how to have eternal life. Jesus replies by explaining to him the very thing that is holding him back from enlightenment. Possessions! He has many great possessions which means very much to this man. One could say he is attached to these things, so Jesus tells him what he needs to hear. Renounce those possessions and only then can he have eternal life. But he needn't renounce them physically, all the ruler needs to do is cut his attachment to them psychologically. Jesus is telling him that his attachment to his wealth and possessions will always keep him from enlightenment. What some aren't understanding is that Jesus' answer would be different for each person. It just so happens that this man's status as a ruler provided him with great possessions which he became attached to. Or you could say they had become part of his psychological identity. Jesus was simply trying to break down the man's idea of himself. It's our psychological identity that is false. We just have trouble seeing it

[@namaste758]

@Nehemiah Scudder It has nothing to do with verbal gymnastics. It's simply understanding what is meant. This one is harder to determine because there isn't much context. My guess is he is trying to explain to his disciples the cost of enlightenment. To live the truth costs everything psychologically speaking. We can no longer believe in any doctrine or ideology. We have to give up seeing the world through the lense of our own judgement and opinions. We no longer get to believe that our opinions have any validity at all. We cease to have the ability to believe we are right. Jesus puts this beautifully when he says, the foxes have their holes in the ground and the birds of the air have their nests, but the son of man has no place to rest his head. Perhaps instead of trying to find everything wrong with what Jesus says, maybe try to find the truth in the words. The truth is there, you just have to have ears to hear. Much of Christiananity is simply a miss translation/misunderstanding about what Jesus was really saying. Even his disciples had no idea what he was talking about. That then trickled down over the years and got even further from what he was trying to say. But the truth is still there. You just have to look for it.

[@namaste758]

@Nehemiah Scudder I'm saying that if Jesus came back today he would be speaking out against Christianity, just as he spoke out against Judaism in his time. My last post had nothing to do with Christianity. I'm saying, look for the truth in his words, not the religion or ideology. You won't find anything there other than misguided efforts to get you to give away your own autonomy. I'm asking you to set aside your inclination to dismiss it all, and look for the truth in it. And it doesn't have to be Jesus. Buddha spoke about the same thing. Perhaps that will speak to you more. It really doesn't matter where you start. You just have to want the truth and give up all your assumptions on what the truth is. What you are not seeing is that your atheism is exactly like Christianity in that you believe it wholeheartedly without a doubt. What Jesus and Buddha tried to teach us is that in order to be happy and live a good life, both must be discarded

[@busawulf]

The man. If I had had just ONE teacher with his brain and communication skills....Oh well...

[@tjones5719]

It depends on the topic though. Very brilliant on some, too biased on others.

[@jjpetkusiii]

The "woke" ideology typifies more than enough of the postmodernist nightmare. Atheism per se vainly presumes that people cannot see any revelation of Almighty God in His glory and holiness. Such a myopic vision epitomizes an immoral and very unscientific array of irrational dystopias at their worst.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Listening to a false teacher has never been a rational choice.

[@stephenireland3816]

Expect Hitch is taking God’s word out of context.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel at an English boarding school which he attended for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language. He denied them by exercising his free will to do so. “Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice. Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus (Philippians 4 : 4-7). "Hitch" tried to amuse uneducated atheists only to sell them his ridiculous books. μη θαυμασης οτι ειπον σοι δει υμας γεννηθηναι ανωθεν Translated flawlessly into the inerrant King James Bible, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3 : 7). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in Him testifies of His eternal holiness, and the fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that speaks for itself. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A.D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and that is what amoral hypocrites who plagiarize ungodly charlatans along with their fellow illiterate narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand. Nothing about them pertains to ecclesiology, ontology, cosmology, epistemology, love, common sense, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, classical literature, the scientific method, British Common Law, advanced prophetic eschatology or the Lord God omnipotent whenever they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools.

[@DJB123]

Quotes from your favourite book provides no factual foundation of any kind. For example “Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful as a Babel Fish could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist,'" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. Douglas Adams H2G2 more fun than the turgid drivel from the 'good' book.

[@jos.petkus509]

Produce evidence. In fact, you have nothing at all. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary, QED.

[@dianespies3104]

@@jos.petkus509 neither do you

[@jos.petkus509]

H. R. H. Charles, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, and of Rothesay, etc., has been subjected to scrutiny for decades. He remains a devoted father, grandfather well dressed, and heir apparent to his mother’s throne. "Hitch" stopped changing his shirts on 15 December 2011 A. D., but this silly anti-Semitic video still contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further evidence to explain atheist cartoons is warranted. QED.

[@DJB123]

@@jos.petkus509 If you mean King Charles III, then that's a case of Noblesse Oblige as he's not yet dead. Your obligation is to assume god exists and construct specious arguments in support of that unprovable start point. This why you see any gospel contradiction as malicious, rather than its true purpose which is to understand rather than just believe. Where's YOUR evidence? (hint: Gospels aren't evidence)

[@jos.petkus509]

Thank you for your prompt reply. Salvation through faith solely in the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of His holiness, and it is always a miracle of grace. ευλογητος ο θεος και πατηρ του κυριου ημων ιησου χριστου ο κατα το πολυ αυτου ελεος αναγεννησας ημας εις ελπιδα ζωσαν δι αναστασεως ιησου χριστου εκ νεκρων Translated into the perfect English of the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead" (1Peter 1:3). We have all the documented evidence about atheist cartoons that we need. This silly anti-Semitic video contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation is necessary. QED.

[@simanahit1]

“I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children;

[@kingbidenmypres]

The best part about coming to a hitchens video comment thread is you know you won't accidentally thumbs a believers comment that made sense all the way to the end, but then they say "god bless"

[@ergonomover]

Lol, true.

[@tjones5719]

Thanks for confirming your confirmation bias. It’s this type of approach that causes there to be a lack of true conversation.

[@richstex4736]

@@tjones5719 Biased for not being contradictory in one's position?

[@tjones5719]

@@richstex4736 “Biased for not being contradictory in one’s position?” Nice strawman (more of your bias desperately trying to cling to life) but that’s not what I said nor even implied. Instead of avoiding what I said, maybe see if you can address it.

[@richstex4736]

@@tjones5719 You're right. Your statement: "Thanks for confirming your confirmation bias. " My statement: Biased for not being contradictory in one's position? Addressed & delivered.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language. He denied them by exercising his free will to do so. "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4). απο δε αρχης κτισεως αρσεν και θηλυ εποιησεν αυτους ο θεος Translated flawlessly, those words of the Lord Jesus Christ say: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10: 6). Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith solely in Him testifies of His holiness, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth. The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Even the term "theory of evolution" is a scientific misnomer because Darwin's racist hypotheses cannot be proven by observation. Of course, they have never been proven since they are inherently false, and the late C. E. Hitchens wrote turgid Marxist prose. Sadly, the Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar. Although he died of metastasized cancer on 15 December 2011 A. D. in Texas after a long illness, his atheist followers are unaware that his ridiculous and immoral claims have NO substantial basis in historiography, linguistics, philosophy, ecclesiology, classical literature, British Common Law or the scientific method. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882, and this stupid video still mutters incoherently for itself. Its gauche revisionism and bizarre misogyny continue to appall me, but rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website has always been a ridiculous Bolshie cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes accurate and important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning.

[@johannbogason1662]

I do not get it. He is willing to grant Sokrates some slack because of his ideas, but not Jesus? What a twerp!

[@quantum5170]

This guy Socrates is not recognised as a person who existed?.

[@geetarbube]

There is no threat or condition for not believing in Socrates. If he was real, he asks for nothing.

[@johannbogason1662]

@@geetarbube If Socrates was real? If!! Do you think Plato was real? Socrates did not leave any writings. But Jesus has had a bigger impact on Western society than both Socrates and Plato combined, for better or for worse. Most scholars agree that Jesus lived...

[@jjpetkusiii]

@@johannbogason1662 Yes, the veracity of the Gospel speaks for itself. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the only-begotten Son of God averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Salvation from sin by grace through faith in Him testifies of His eternal holiness. Reasoning minds want to know what happened since the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. τω δε μη εργαζομενω πιστευοντι δε επι τον δικαιουντα τον ασεβη λογιζεται η πιστις αυτου εις δικαιοσυνην Translated perfectly into English, that ancient Koine Greek text reads, "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Romans 4 : 5). The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth. Charles Lyell's geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist language. No species of plant or animal came from another genus living anywhere on Earth, and even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to Chagas disease in 1882. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide understand that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a blatant Marxist cyber fraud. Both the accuracy and clarity of the inerrant King James Bible are unrivalled in any modern language. "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments, but he also died on 15 December 2011 after a long illness.

[@johannbogason1662]

@@bobs182 What supernatural claims about Socrates are you talking about, that the holy atheist Hitchens is "not expected to believe"? It may come as a surprise to you, but religion is based on supernatural claims. Socrates is not a religious figure in any sense of the word. Talk about missing the point...

[@ergonomover]

"Why did he (Christ) leave his words to ignorance, hypocrisy and chance? Why did he not say something positive, definite and satisfactory about another world? Why did he not turn the tear-stained hope of heaven into the glad knowledge of another life? Why did he not tell us something of the rights of man, of the liberty of hand and brain? Why did he go dumbly to his death, leaving the world to misery and to doubt?" I will tell you why. He was a man, and did not know.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll

[@roysharma3942]

To ask that question ergonomover after introducing the topic so (apparently) intelligently, you have to be at your dumbest. If truth really mattered you would at least read Christ's own words which specifically answers that question. But since you only spew hate against Him, you will never know. Christ Himself said "do not throw your pearls to swine".

[@donpetty7584]

The guy you quote knows nothing of who Christ or what he taught. The ignorance, hypoocrisy and chance are bunk. Do you know what Christ taught? "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." That is wonderful news. Though we are an errant race, God still loves us and has provided a way for us not to fear death, to live with Him forever. Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world to be a bridge for us to experience God's nature now and after this life. The fruit of the Holy Spirit, according to Galations 5:22 is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. His death was foreordained. Without Him being crucified there would be no hope for mankind. He promised to send the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, which He did at Pentecost. At our death we receive the full inheritance and are transformed into our eternal state. We experience then the richest measure of the Divine Presence, peace, love, security, forever. Our spiritual bodies become fully flooded with the Presence of God. None of what your guy says is true. He's obviously never sought the presence of God in prayer.

[@ergonomover]

@@donpetty7584 This guy Colonel Ingersoll grew up alongside his father who was an itinerant preacher, so he heard sermons and bible quotes all his life. He fought in the civil war against the slavery people. Just because you don't like his message doesn't make it false. You can read his mind to know he never sought your god the right way? A bit conceited of you, isn't it? Humans are so wicked that the god had to be reborn in the flesh in order to human-sacrifice himself? Sounds like horrible news to me, it was not my fruit and not my cross. Human sacrifice is pagan and should not be worshiped. He supposedly rose again - so where is the great sacrifice?

[@ergonomover]

@@roysharma3942 Christ called his fellow humans "swine"? He wasn't such a great guy, thanks for proving it even more. Christ supposedly said many things according to the men who penned the books of the bible, why trust that any of it was divinely inspired? The obvious fakeness of the story put me off 50 years ago. Call me dumb if that makes you feel better but the bible stories are certainly dumber.

[@jounisuninen]

It looks Robert G. Ingersoll didn't have a clue of what Jesus really spoke and taught 🙄

[@WoodsongEntertainment]

The world is a far lesser place without this man in it.

[@tjones5719]

Nope. It’s a nice opinion, but his own teachings would say you move on as there is nothing he said that someone else couldn’t have also created (whether truth or lie).

[@jeffforsythe9514]

He was an emotional wreck and did not have a clue concerning the true meaning of life. We fell here from Heaven are are supposed to seek God and to return home to Heaven, not deny that Heaven and God both exist, wow, what a terrible path to take, backwards.

[@atomant451]

From what I understand of Socrates was you may ask me a question but my answer to that question will beget further questions. And I understand this to mean that, a question asked should not be taken as gospel and leave it at that! Keep asking questions.

[@jjpetkusiii8230]

+atomant451 Excellent points and very timely. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. επερωτηθεις δε υπο των φαρισαιων ποτε ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου απεκριθη αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ ερχεται η βασιλεια του θεου μετα παρατηρησεως In the inerrant King James Bible, the ancient Greek reads: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation" (Luke 17:20). Charles Lyell’s geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy in obscurantist language. Salvation through faith alone in the only-begotten Son of God testifies of His holiness, and it is always a miracle of grace. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar "Hitch" knew that he was a hell-bound sodomite according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." Although his ridiculous atheist psychobabble is altogether immaterial to ecclesiology, philosophy, linguistics, historiography, exegesis, and the scientific method, his bizarre anti-Semitic misogyny still appalls me.

[@CoachCanada1]

jjpetkusiii copy and paste the same reply 1000 times it still does not stop the fact that the bible is made up hogwash and the God portrayed in the old testament is a wicked, selfish, murderous, and immature child. Religion is a mental illness and you need psychological help. You poor poor man.

[@Eadwulf_Skald]

Socrates believed that every "person" is able to reason, think, etc when asked the right questions.

[@jjpetkusiii8230]

+I. V. d M. Yes, the heathen idolater Socrates was wrong about his "think" fallacy as history has proven many times over. I couldn't disagree with the late C. E. Hitchens more. The Lord Jesus Christ said, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10: 6). Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith solely in Him testifies of His holiness, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" because it is a personal relationship to the Saviour. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and He also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth. The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Even the term "theory" of evolution" is a scientific misnomer because Darwin's racist hypotheses cannot be proven by observation. Of course, since they have never been proven they are inherently false, and Hitchens wrote turgid Marxist prose. Sadly, the Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar, and his fellow sodomites called him "Hitch the bitch." As a matter of fact, he died of metastasized cancer years ago, and his atheist followers are unaware that his ridiculous and immoral claims have NO substantial basis in historiography, linguistics, philosophy, ecclesiology, classical literature or the scientific method. Solid evidence based on more than 5, 000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible long before C. R. Darwin died in 1882, and this stupid video still mutters incoherently for itself. Its gauche revisionism and bizarre misogyny continue to appall me.

[@aikido7]

The “inerrant King James bible” was commissioned by King James I--a self-admitted and flagrant homosexual. Sir Walter Raleigh, a friend of James’ court, once observed that “We had King Elizabeth and now we have Queen James."

[@jjpetkusiii]

The late C. E. Hitchens misunderstood the blood atonement for sins as a matter of record. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God just as denying salvation from sin by grace through faith is the consummate fool's errand. "As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving" (Colossians 2: 6,7). The historicity of Noah's Flood is well beyond legitimate dispute, and even the term "theory of evolution" is a misnomer. Sadly, the Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" knew that that he was a hell-bound sinner according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages before he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." There was no debate here at all. ο ουρανος και η γη παρελευσονται οι δε λογοι μου ου μη παρελθωσιν Translated perfectly into the inerrant King James Bible, those ancient Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away" (Mark 13 : 31). Regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ have been redeemed from the penalty of sin just as they are being delivered from the power of sin by grace through faith in the only-begotten Son of God, and He alone will save us from the very presence of sin at an appointed time in the future. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the only-begotten Son of God averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Charles Lyell's geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist jargon. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. The fulfilment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that speaks for itself, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. The crackpot fabrication that "Jesus of Nazareth is a myth" has been summarily dismissed by sane people everywhere, and even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied in Sin City and elsewhere for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" typified myopic nihilism in favor of its own fetid decay, and his prolix revisionist psychobabble merely reflected his bizarre misogyny. "Darwinian evolution" is a vile racist fairy tale that is totally devoid of empirical proof, and anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation in any case. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and that is what amoral hypocrites who plagiarize ungodly charlatans along with their fellow narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand. Nothing about them pertains to ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, historiography, epistemology, love, common sense, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, classical literature, advanced prophetic eschatology, British Common Law, the scientific method or the Lord God omnipotent whenever they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a ridiculous Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It has also deleted and will often erase important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context.

[@vxenon67]

I cannot get mad at the Greek god Zeus. Neither would i be offended or even hostile. You know why? He doesn't exist. Not even worth of a debate. But ahh mention Jesus Christ and the Hebrew God. There is intolerence, hate, ridicule, scoffers. But wait i thought you said Jesus is a myth?

[@chippers76751]

If you were trying to teach the myth of Zeus in our schools you would see intolerance , hate, ridicule. scoffers.

[@lindaskipper4383]

every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess jesus christ is lord

[@tjones5719]

I hope there is more to your belief than this because the Boys Scouts and Girls Scouts have some type of credos as well.

[@John_Lyle]

There were over five and a half million Jews exterminated by Christians in death camps around Europe who never bowed the knee or "confessed" that Jesus is lord, and they are a tiny fraction of the people who have throughout history refused to submit to your dead god. According to Christian dogma, those people are now all "burning in Hell" because they failed to acknowledge Jesus, while the ones responsible for their deaths are joyful in Heaven because they "believed" and are therefore forgiven by their imaginary friend. If the Morons are the one true faith then those killed in the Shoah are now gods of their own planets because they were all baptised post-mortem.

[@tjones5719]

@@John_Lyleconsidering you supported the extermination of religious people (as both Jews and Christians were killed) by your atheist doctrine executed by an atheist leader with way too much power, you really don’t get a say on good or bad of the concept of a heaven or hell. You supported ending their lives just because they had religion. Now you and I have gone back and forth on many items and your failed views are more sad than amusing. This one though, your refusal to denounce the atheistic reasoning used by Hitler to commit these acts and your continued refusal to acknowledge what those creating the OSS report, the witnesses at the Nuremberg Trials said, that all of this was to achieve hitlers goal of wiping out all theist religion is fairly despicable of you. You wouldn’t even show empathy for Christians (you couldn’t even in most cases if not all being yourself to acknowledge it) who were targeted for their religion as well. You are a sad and angry old man who realizes way too late that you didn’t learn to question to break free of your continued indoctrinated state, you traded one indoctrination for another. And your complete lack of empathy as you focus on making sure your self centered view is supported no matter how many lies or projections you have to tell (and you’ve told likely hundreds just with me) shows you will not be missed. That’s your doing so don’t blame anyone else. And if you think someone thinks otherwise, keep in mind you lie and likely have surrounded yourself by people who willingly lie right back to you. In short, no matter what they tell you, they won’t miss you because they follow the path you have led which says to care about no one other than yourself.

[@John_Lyle]

@@tjones5719 _"considering you supported the extermination of religious people (as both Jews and Christians were killed)"_ That is a lie and a libel on your part. Cite your evidence that I supported any of the actions carried out by German *Christians* One of the first things Hitler did upon becoming Chancellor was to seize the assets of the Deutscher Freidenker-Verband (German Freethinkers Association) an organisation of German atheists and free thinkers, unfettered by religious doctrine. The national headquarters building was repurposed to become an office promoting church matters and religious belief. This action was supported by Christian leaders (Including Martin Niemöller) as they opposed anything fostered by the Liberal "Weimar Republic" You assume that I support the deaths of millions of my grandfather's co-religionists, not because of anything I said, but because I am an Atheist, and because you hate anybody who won't kiss your fat arse. You have claimed I support the murder of the "Bibelforscher (Bible Students) simply because I refused to concentrate on the ones who followed the American Joseph Rutherford (Jehovah's Witnesses) and I also condemned the murders of the physically and mentally disabled as well as the Slavs, Serbs, Gypsies etc. I also condemned the killing of Atheists, a group who you pretend were the ones in charge of the whole stinking mess. And yes, I am angry that some lying piece of arsewipe keeps touting a piece of fake wartime propaganda put out by the US government to change the attitudes of an American population that were supportive of the Nazis, right up until the point the Nazis declared war on the USA as "proof" that Hitler was an Atheist. He had jailed Atheists and outlawed Atheism a full five years before the events of Kristallnacht, but you prefer to sweep that fact under the carpet. My grandfather survived the German camps while the father of one of your Presidents, and grandfather of another was doing business with the Nazis to get his grubby little paws on stolen Jewish gold. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of the Nazis towards the Jews followed a long and bloody history of persecution and blood-libel of the Jewish people by Christians. Indeed the roadmap Adolf Hitler followed in his persecution of the Jews was laid out by Martin Luther, so are you going to add to your lies by claiming that the founder of the Protestant Reformation was also an Atheist? _Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:_ _First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss in sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. That would demonstrate to God our serious resolve and be evidence to all the world that it was in ignorance that we tolerated such houses, in which the Jews have reviled God, our dear Creator and Father, and his Son most shamefully up till now, but that we have now given them their due reward._ _Second, that all their books their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible, be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted. For they use all of these books to blaspheme the Son of God, that is, God the Father himself, Creator of heaven and earth, as was said above; and they will never use them differently._ _Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country. They may do this in their own country or wherever they can without our being obliged to hear it or know it. The reason for this prohibition is that their praise, thanks, prayer, and doctrine are sheer blasphemy, cursing, and idolatry, because their heart and mouth call God the Father _*_Hebel Vorik_*_ as they call his Son, our Lord Jesus, this. For as they name and honour the Son, thus they also name and honour the Father. It does not help them to use many fine words and to make much ado about the name of God. For we read, "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain" [Exodus.20:7]. Just as little did it avail their ancestors at the time of the kings of Israel that they bore God's name, yet called him Baal._ _Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing.For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it, because their blasphemous and accursed mouth and heart call God's Son _*_Hebel Vorik,_*_ and thus also call his Father that. He cannot and will not interpret this otherwise, just as we Christians too cannot interpret it otherwise, we who believe that however the Son is named and honoured thus also the Father is named and honoured. Therefore we must not consider the mouth of the Jews as worthy of uttering the name of God within our hearing. He who hears this name-from a Jew must inform the authorities, or else throw sow dung at him when he sees him and chase him away. And may no one be merciful and kind in this regard, for God's honour and the salvation of us all, including that of the Jews, are at stake!_ *Martin Luther "Von den J den und iren Lugen" Chapter 17*

[@tjones5719]

@@John_Lyle​​⁠”That is a lie and a libel on your part. Cite your evidence that I supported and of the actions carried out by German Christians”. Even that response gives evidence as you try to blame a theist religion rather than denounce the killings. That’s evidence you supported the action. The other evidence is when I asked you to denounce the very philosophy that drove the genocide, that of hoping all theist religions were to fade out so that science and reason could be the things that remain (Hitlers words, confirmed in the OSS report, confirmed in the NYT, confirmed by testimony at the Nuremberg trials) you have refused to do so because that is a central belief of atheists. So that once again is evidence you supported the genocide. If you feel differently, then denounce it (if you don’t and just avoid, then you have repeated that evidence for me). And besides whenever I brought up the atrocities against Christians you wouldn’t denounce it (you wouldn’t even denounce the atrocities against the Jews for most of our past discussions). Eventually you started saying something a little more appreciative that an atheist lunatic had murdered millions under his direction, but you never shared mourning for their loss. We will wait while you give me more evidence that the very thing I said is supported, heck the rest of your post confirms the things I am saying “One of the first…chapter 17”

[@Oldtinear]

+Jim Miller You accuse Hitch of 'utterly distorting established truth to benefit his case'. Please give some examples, otherwise what you assert without evidence can be dismissed the same way.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Why?

[@jjpetkusiii]

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour also averred the Hebrew Tanakh. Just as the Satanist cyber fraud repeats his baseless claims and fatuous libels, so the atheist psychopath ignores his malicious errors. ο δε πιλατος βουλοbbμενος τω οχλω το ικανον ποιησαι απελυσεν αυτοις τον βαραββαν και παρεδωκεν τον ιησουν φραγελλωσας ινα σταυρωθη Translated flawlessly, the Biblical text reads: "And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified" (Mark 15:15). Only a gauche Nazi bureaucrat or a depraved Stalinist apparatchik could admire such a vacillating coward in office as Pontius Pilate, a typical Roman politician. The only-begotten Son of God saves lost sinners to the uttermost by grace through faith in Him alone. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God beyond any and all reasonable doubt. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible in English long before C. R. Darwin died in 1882. Sadly, the professional Antichrist liar Hitchens knew that he was a hell-bound sodomite according to both the Old and New Testaments in their original languages when he left Balliol College at Oxford to write for "International Socialism." Any rational exegete understands such obvious matters of incontrovertible fact. This absurd LGBT video has muttered incoherently for itself year after year, but Communist propaganda still appeals to ignorant narcissists and totalitarian fools.

[@jimic5960]

All we have is 60-100 years and then....nothing? Billions upon billions of years of evolution, and everything and everyone ends up in the same place...nowhere. What a sad and tragic belief system. I pity and pray for anyone caught in such a meaningless and worthless existence.

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

Is Magical-thinking really preferable to cold, hard Reality? Don't bother answering, I already know the answer is yes ...

[@dylanhinson6659]

My life has more meaning and joy in it now that I am no longer religious than it ever did before. Life itself is the meaning. “That the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse.”

[@johncraig5509]

Don't call it a "belief system". Just save yourself a few letters worth of typing and call it "fact".

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

@@johncraig5509 You clearly misunderstand the meaning of the term "fact": a thing that is known or proved to be true.

[@jimic5960]

@@johncraig5509 You believe it, right? The two terms are not in conflict. You just take issue with me telling you a different fact. I will pray for you my friend, whether you believe it or not. That's also a fact.

[@j919or]

Note: that off topic comments will need to be ignored lest they hijack the main idea, like Nehemiah purports to do. Off topic comments need be placed in a new thread. And some guidelines would include one argument per thread, at a time. My threads would include deletions of off topic illogical nonsense

[@Oldtinear]

***** Yes, the Bible story says that Mary & Joseph needed to travel for days to a notional ancestral town for a census/tax assessment. But there is no record in history of this census, nor of any 'ancestral city' census ever. It is pure fabrication. If you disagree, cite the historical record of any such census.

[@Oldtinear]

***** I said 'It is confusing when you mix up hate-speech with science' Yet, in your very next post, you say 'A corrupt anti-Semitic myth, Darwinism deceives you simple and unlearned Jesuits'. You are just not ruddy listening, are you, Boggy, old blunderer?. You cannnot falsify a scientific theory, such as Evolution, by insulting it with hate speech. You can only do it by producing observations which do not fit it. Try to get it right - hate speech; observations. The first belongs in the world of religion; the second in the world of science. It is not that hard, Boggy!

[@Oldtinear]

jjpetkusiii If, as you claim, there are 5,000 manuscripts 'establishing the integrity of the KJV', then you will have no trouble citing a website where we can read one, and judge for ourselves if your claim is, as we suspect, pure air, or not.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Oldtinear a.k.a. FFreeThinker παρακαλω δε υμας αδελφοι σκοπειν τους τας διχοστασιας και τα σκανδαλα παρα την διδαχην ην υμεις εμαθετε ποιουντας και εκκλινατε απ αυτων Translated into the international language of the world today, that Koine Greek text reads: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Rom. 16:17). Only the Lord Jesus Christ came to seek and to save lost sinners as the inerrant King James Bible clearly instructs. Darwinism is a corrupt anti-Semitic fairy tale.

[@Oldtinear]

***** CRAP - Compulsive Repetitions Are Puerile

[@jeremylonsdale3350]

Money money money. The most beautiful and abundant buildings from history aren't castle's of forgotten Kings they are churches.

[@ergonomover]

Easy for churches to be abundant when there is no property or income tax and pastors/preachers etc enjoy the Parson's exemption when purchasing a home. Thus, mega-ministers such as Creflo Dollar (money money) can pray and beg for more money to buy more private jets. Vatican real estate is estimated to be worth trillions of $$. I visited a big bookshop in Copenhagen, formerly a church. I see a bright future for churches, they make good concert halls, bookshops and learning centers.

[@markrymanowski719]

Vast wealth spent on them as the peasants suffered.

[@mavis3916]

@@markrymanowski719 places where peasants could escape the harshness of medevial life, Christianity created the sciences and arts, , not to mention compassion, the modern world basks in the after glow of Christianity,

[@markrymanowski719]

@@mavis3916 Couldn't agree more. My real name is Ena Sharples. So, watch it!!

[@mavis3916]

@@markrymanowski719 😆

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. The late C. E. Hitchens was instructed to believe the Gospel for years before he matriculated at Balliol College in Oxford. He proved nothing about the Old and New Testaments in any language, but he denied them. "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth" (Job 19 : 25). Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of His atonement on Calvary alone testifies of His eternal holiness. Larry Taunton wrote his book after C. E. Hitchens died, and too many fanatical postmodernists still ignore wholesome exegesis. The veracity of the Gospel speaks for itself. The only-begotten Son of God came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him alone. και μη φοβηθητε απο των αποκτεινοντων το σωμα την δε ψυχην μη δυναμενων αποκτειναι φοβηθητε δε μαλλον τον δυναμενον και ψυχην και σωμα απολεσαι εν γεεννη In perfect English, those ancient Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matt. 10 : 28). Academic frauds who reject creationism are witless liars, and none of those narcissistic bores wants their character flaws to be exposed by the chronological accuracy of the inerrant King James Bible that is unrivaled in any modern language. Simply put, atheism is the pathological denial of Almighty God, and the historicity of Noah's Flood has always been well beyond legitimate dispute. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently. Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith alone in Him testifies of His holiness, and Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C.R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a hackneyed Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since the unauthorized origin of the illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and accurate comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and no species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus. The crackpot fabrication that "Jesus of Nazareth is a myth" has been summarily dismissed by sane people everywhere, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. It is very sad that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" only amounted to prolix revisionist psychobabble with NO concrete basis in cosmology, epistemology, ontology, ecclesiology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations, British Common Law, the scientific method or advanced prophetic eschatology, and his thoroughly nonessential rhetoric typified myopic nihilism in favor of its own fetid decay.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh. λεγω δε υμιν οτι πολλοι απο ανατολων και δυσμων ηξουσιν και ανακλιθησονται μετα αβρααμ και ισαακ και ιακωβ εν τη βασιλεια των ουρανων Translated into the infallible King James Bible, those ancient Koine Greek words of the Lord Jesus Christ read: "And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 8 : 11). Eternal salvation from sin by grace through faith in Him alone testifies of His holiness. Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Darwinism is a vile anti-Semitic fairy tale, and Rome is still the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17 and 18 in any ancient or modern language. The historicity of Noah’s Flood is well beyond any legitimate biological or geological dispute. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. "Hitch" lied. but he died. Academic frauds who reject creationism are narcissistic liars and witless bores, and none of the revisionist fools holding tenure at a university wants those character flaws to be exposed by the chronological accuracy of the inerrant King James Bible in Modern English--especially since they are totally illiterate in the original languages of the Old and New Testaments. παρακαλω δε υμας αδελφοι σκοπειν τους τας διχοστασιας και τα σκανδαλα παρα την διδαχην ην υμεις εμαθετε ποιουντας και εκκλινατε απ αυτων Translated into the international language of the world today, that Koine Greek text reads: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16 : 17). Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. No species of plant or animal came from another genus living anywhere on Earth, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religiion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a gauche Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive substantive facts in a realistic context.

[@ergonomover]

"God did not create man in his own image. Evidently, it was quite the other way about, which is the painless explanation for the profusion of gods and religions, and the fratricide both between and among faiths, that we see all about us and that has so retarded the development of civilization." - Christopher Hitchens (God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything)

[@andrewg2032]

Demonic activity

[@ergonomover]

@@andrewg2032 Demonizing fellow humans you disagree with?

[@jos.petkus509]

You're a cartoon.

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Buzz off, kindly spam your silly insults on your own threads. You believe in a talking snake, how cartoonish is that?

[@ergonomover]

@@jos.petkus509 Just because you hate Hitchens does not make me a cartoon, and name-calling sure is weak.

[@dustyparker4806]

Jesus never instructed not preparing for tomorrow, he said to put God before all those things. Hitchens once again contorting words.

[@tjones5719]

It is a larger error by Hitchens.

[@ergonomover]

Jesus did not say "Take therefore no thought for the morrow" Matt 6 :34? (KJV) What is your -contorted- interpretation based upon?

[@tjones5719]

@@ergonomover unless I am missing a transition, Matthew 6 is Jesus talking primarily.

[@dustyparker4806]

@@ergonomover yes, that is what he says but it’s not black or white as Hitchens tries to point out. Meaning, just because Jesus taught to not worry about tomorrow doesn’t mean we don’t prepare, work, save, etc. Black or white meaning it’s not either I’ll choose to not worry about what tomorrow brings therefore I will pretend life doesn’t happen or that tomorrow won’t come or I’ll choose to acknowledge that but simultaneously worry myself sick. What Jesus is saying is there will be worries associated with tomorrow but don’t worry about them meaning don’t be anxious. And it’s all clear when you read the verse before it you see that he wants us to acknowledge him first and seek first the kingdom. If you do that then even when the worries of tomorrow come you’ll have peace and know what to do. Guidance and direction. The kingdom of heaven he’s referring to is not heaven the place but rather a deep meaningful relationship with him while here on earth via the Holy Spirit that fills you when you are born again.

[@stephenireland3816]

Trolling Jones “It is a larger error by Hitchens.” No it’s a lie by Hitch by deliberately taking something said out of context. Something you also do regularly.

[@jeffmilroy9345]

Johnny Walker Black talking. Kneeling to the god of Bacchus.

[@ergonomover]

“If we offer too much silent assent about mysticism and superstition - even when it seems to be doing a little good - we abet a general climate in which scepticism is considered impolite, science tiresome, and rigorous thinking somehow stuffy and inappropriate. Figuring out a prudent balance takes wisdom.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark (1995)

[@ergonomover]

Hitch would probably have suggested that we offer no silent assent.

[@jos.petkus509]

No.

[@jos.petkus509]

This silly anti-Semitic video contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent.

[@jos.petkus509]

Atheists miss the point every day.

[@analoguedragon7438]

What Hitchens and his feĺlow militant atheists miss is this: religion is not about ideas, religion is about rituals (Nassim Taleb). Btw, I am atheist myself, although not of the militant kind.

[@captainatheist555]

analogue dragon.. Bullshit, you ain't no atheist..

[@analoguedragon7438]

@Nehemiah Scudder Who died and made you spokesman for the people?

[@captainatheist555]

@@analoguedragon7438 I see you haven't denied my claim..

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing at all was debated here as a documented matter of immutable fact. Now you want rational exegetes to believe that "@@captainatheist555 " is your real name. No further explanation is required. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

The fictitious "@Nehemiah Scudder " never existed in real life by definition. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There is no debate here. The fulfillment of prophecy over the millennia confirms the veracity of the Gospel always continuing to speak for itself. The only-begotten Son of God came to seek and to save lost sinners by grace through faith in Him alone. ο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν γεγραπται ουκ επ αρτω μονω ζησεται ανθρωπος αλλ επι παντι ρηματι εκπορευομενω δια στοματος θεου In perfect English, that authentic Koine Greek text reads: "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God" (Matt. 4 : 4). The Lord Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Academic frauds who reject creationism are witless liars, and none of those narcissistic bores wants their character flaws to be exposed by the chronological accuracy of the inerrant King James Bible that is unrivalled in any modern language. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth is descended from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. Anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation in any case, and Darwinism is a vile racist fairy tale. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" not only lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, linguistic derivations or the scientific method. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the repressive "FFreeThinker" website is a stupid Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and the crackpot fabrication that "Jesus of Nazaeth is a myth" has been summarily dismissed by sane people everywhere.

[@timlinator]

Left that cult in my teens.

[@cj1000]

Took me so much longer, I'm almost embarrassed and ashamed, but mostly angry because I was held in thrall because so many people I respected believed. It's just an inertia of numbers. Sad.

[@timlinator]

@@cj1000 At least you got out. Better late than never.

[@stephenireland3816]

Bob Tomlin “Left that cult in my teens.” Great! Know you’re free to accept Jesus! I was once in the Mormon cult myself. “Many shall come in my name(Jesus) a deceive many”

[@waynemizer4912]

@@cj1000 Mass Formation Psychosis ... it wasn't your fault, enjoy your freedom!

[@stephenireland3816]

“enjoy your freedom!” If we aren’t saved by Jesus/God then we are slaves of sin. “Jesus came to set the captives free”

[@kevincoshner310]

The `bottom line` to all our discussions and arguments is probably, "What has done the most damage in the world - Christianity or Atheism?

[@tjones5719]

Atheism and it’s not even close. Now do I really blame current atheists, no, just like I don’t blame current Christians.

[@John_Lyle]

​@@tjones5719Really? It wasn't Atheists who called for European Jews to be deprived of their livelihoods, their homes, their portable wealth, and finally their lives. It was religious authorities like Martin Luther, whose advice was followed so effectively by the fascists as allies of the Catholic Church in the 20th century. It wasn't Atheists who called for the Crusades, both against Islam and against "heretics" like the Lollards or the Cathars, and the wars between Catholic and Protestant were not incited by Atheists. As bad as we paint Islamic fundamentalism today, fewer people have died at the hands of Islamic extremists than have been killed for the Christian religion, and no Atheist ever killed another Atheist for not believing in a different god than they themselves don't believe in. Despite the lies put out by Christians, Adolf Hitler was not an Atheist and the Church of Rome never turned its back on him or his supporters, even going to the extent of sheltering and protecting Nazi war criminals after the war was over.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Man.

[@edgarlawson1251]

Man is the responsible party.

[@jos.petkus509]

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4).

[@GenghisVern]

Bronze age? No. 2:20 it was the Iron age

[@emmetrobert4425]

Shocking huh, how Hitchens can actually be wrong? But this our age -- string together big words and people think you're an expert.

[@helenamcginty4920]

Obviously not a pre historian or archaeologist or even a fan of Time Team.

[@drokkerelq]

Judaism began in the bronze age. Christianity and Islam are based upon Judaism.

[@jos.petkus509]

This silly anti-Semitic video contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. Atheists miss the point every day.

[@curtisjohnson2200]

Thank You Chris!

[@pauljam8197]

Christopher

[@stephenireland3816]

Thank you Christ!

[@gregknibbs1347]

We miss you Hitch

[@jos.petkus509]

"Hitch" stopped changing his shirts on 15 December 2011 A. D., but this silly anti-Semitic video still contradicts the Gospel with malicious intent. No further explanation of atheist cartoons is necessary. QED.

[@roysharma3942]

Who are you talking to?

[@stephenireland3816]

Hitch went to meet his Maker😞

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of His eternal holiness, and the fulfillment of prophecy confirms the veracity of the Gospel that speaks for itself. και ουκ εστιν εν αλλω ουδενι η σωτηρια ουτε γαρ ονομα εστιν ετερον υπο τον ουρανον το δεδομενον εν ανθρωποις εν ω δει σωθηναι ημας Translated flawlessly into the inerrant King James Bible, the Koine Greek text reads: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby ye must be saved" (Acts 4 : 12). Intelligent minds want to know what happened after the Saviour arose from the dead almost two millennia ago. Charles Lyell's geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist jargon. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading. The crackpot fabrication that "Jesus of Nazareth is a myth" has been summarily dismissed by sane people everywhere, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his various diseases in 1882. Darwin's racist hypotheses have never been proven, and that comes as no surprise because his speculations about morphology cannot be verified by observation. No one can validate them since they are inherently false, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Born of a virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Lord Jesus Christ averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a ridiculous Marxist cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. The alcoholic Trotskyite blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied in Sin City and elsewhere for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A.D. at an excellent hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO legitimate basis in ecclesiology, ontology, cosmology, historiography, epistemology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, British Common Law, the scientific method, unadulterated linguistic derivations or advanced prophetic eschatology. The bizarre misogyny that he espoused still appalls me, and his prolix revisionist psychobabble typified myopic nihilism in favor of its own fetid decay. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and that is what amoral hypocrites who plagiarize ungodly charlatans along with their fellow narcissists pretending to think for themselves cannot understand whenever they copy and paste their baseless libels against Christians and Jews on pointless blogs controlled by depraved militants who receive venal contributions from senile totalitarian fools.

[@marindedi8424]

Jesus's followers were women children and men who died for what they seen and believed Would they have sacrificed their life if they didn't believe?

[@borismedved835]

People died for _what they thought_ they ((sicker)) seen ((snicker)) and swallowed to appease the enforcers. "The church" has always had enforcers. Mine were a herd of old ladies who thought it a good idea to try to "shame" me at age ten for refusing to believe that my late grandfather was _being burned in hell forever through God's endless and infinite love._

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was and is no debate here. In fact "@Nehemiah Scudder " is nothing at all. No further explanation is required. QED;

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was nothing to debate here. The ridiculous nonentity pretending to be the gauche fiction that the dead nudist infidel Heinlein copyrighted as "@Nehemiah Scudder " decades before he succumbed to emphysema never existed in real life by definition. IT always was nonessential although it has been programmed to repeat itself thousands of times. No further explanation of the jailbird "FFreeThinker" cyber fraud is required. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing was debated here. We conclusively proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" cyber fraud illegally plagiarized the gauche fiction labelled as "@Nehemiah Scudder " once again from the dead nudist infidel Heinlein to delete material evidence and repeat malicious atheist lies against the death, burial and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ thousands of times. IT can neither read nor think about the Gospel in any language because it is a brainless spam bot that never was a real person by definition. No further explanation is required. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

In fact, "@Nehemiah Scudder" is nothing at all. QED.

[@jjpetkusiii]

There was no debate here. Salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ by His precious blood testifies of His eternal holiness. τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον Gratia enim estis salvati per fidem et hoc non ex vobis Dei enim donum est. Translated flawlessly, those ancient Biblical texts read: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" (Ephesians 2: 8). Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant MSS established the integrity of the inerrant King James Bible in English long before C.R. Darwin succumbed to Chagas disease in 1882. The only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" became a professional Antichrist liar who misrepresented the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an outstanding hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, linguistic derivations, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, British Common Law or the scientific method, but his prolix revisionist psychobabble always was nonessential. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website has always been an illiterate Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deletes important comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context.

[@rhondawiggins5728]

I really miss him.

[@Samn3212]

Me too, man. Let’s remember him together 🥃

[@jjpetkusiii]

The late C. E. Hitchens succumbed to metastasized cancer on 15 December 2011 A.D. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading today just as it was 15 years ago.

[@ergonomover]

@@jjpetkusiii You've been here smearing a dead man for over 10 years? Why not keep your malicious libel and your delusions to yourself from now on? Leave these fans in peace.

[@316ken]

HITCHENS' CORNER? If you have listened to a variety of Christopher Hitchens' talks or discussions, you may find the following story interesting. Long ago at “Speakers’ Corner” in Hyde Park, London, an atheist stepped onto a well-worn soap box and began talking to a gathering of some forty or fifty people. Toward the end of a fiery discourse denigrating all forms of religion, the man raised both his fists; waved them angrily at the sky, and began shouting at the top of his voice. “Alright God; if you really exist, prove it to all these people by striking me down with a bolt of lightning! Do it right now, and perhaps then they will believe in you.” After a few seconds of absolute silence, he cried out again. “What’s wrong God: are you afraid to take the challenge? Show yourself. Why don’t you answer me?” Moments later, a tall, well-build man walked forward and began to address the crowd in a gentle yet authoritative tone. “On my way here, I found myself walking down a dark and narrow alleyway. Suddenly, a young boy sprang from a concealed door way and raised his fists toward me in a threatening manner. Although he appeared to be no more than twelve years old; he nevertheless approached me boldly; and-with much cursing and swearing-demanded that I hand over my watch and my wallet. As I looked down upon him, I realized how easily I could have subdued, or even punished him for his audacity; but what good would it have done? (I knew there were many more like him in that part of town.) In the end, and with great sadness; I simply and silently turned and walked away." With genuine compassion, the stranger smiled at the man on the soap box and added, “That my friend is what God has done to you today.” ***** Christopher Hitchens now knows only too well what every human being will eventually discover... "That at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:10) In the meantime... "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)

[@MsMommaRose]

You forgot to tell the story about how your god makes little grossly deformed babies that have no hope of normal life just so you can feel better.

[@316ken]

MsMommaRose A day is coming when everyone will realize that God has not been responsible for any of the dreadful things He is so often accused of; but that men only have themselves to blame... Until that day arrives however, you obviously have the choice of believing anything you wish: I'm simply offering you the truth... "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." (The Hebrew word signifies not only the imagination, but also man's purposes and desires.) "Lo, this only have I found, that God made man upright; but they have sought out many (wicked) inventions." (Eccl. 7:29) I'm sorry if "religion" has hurt you so badly: it hurt me too. Then I learned the truth... Religion is man-made: Christianity is God-made! "Jesus is the Only Way, the Only Truth, and the Only Life." -- So HE is the Only One worth trusting in! Love and peace to you in Jesus' Name.

[@MsMommaRose]

ken rodway The truth is that there is no reason to believe any of the proposed gods exist. If the god of the Christian bible existed, it would not be worth worshipping but deserving of punishment.

[@316ken]

MsMommaRose YOUR truth, or God's Word? We can only wait to see which prevails. In the meantime, I wish you well.

[@MsMommaRose]

ken rodway You have no evidence that there is a god. Why do you call it a truth without evidence? What else do you believe without evidence? Which treatment for Hansen's disease do you want if you become infected: the blood of doves as in the bible or antibiotics? How much faith do you have in the words of book written by bronze age shepherds?

[@mikebeevers2416]

A shame that, when it comes to the existence of the historical Jesus, Hitchens has not considered Josephus, Suetonious and Tacitus.

[@tjones5719]

It’s confirmation bias so not unexpected.

[@tjones5719]

@John Youdell you do confirm that there are references. That’s at least good.

[@John_Lyle]

​@@tjones5719The "Josephus" references were both written by Christians long after Josephus had died, and no Christian apologist before Eusebius was aware of its existence, with Origen admitting that neither Josephus nor Justus (of Tiberias) acknowledged Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah. Likewise no Christian apologists were aware of the "Tacitus" entry which makes an error that Tacitus would never have made. It also only mentions the existence of Christians and their belief s, it does not verify the accuracy of those beliefs any more than a report of the Mountain Meadows massacre would confirm the existence of the Angel Moronic or the truth of the Moron religion. Suetonius on the other hand specifically mentioned the followers of "Chrestus" which is not the same word as "Christ" and his recounting of the actions of "Chrestus" do not match the biblical claims for Jesus. You are literally clutching at straws.

[@tjones5719]

@@John_Lyle “You are literally clutching at straws.” Nice lie and projection. 1) You don’t use the word literally correctly because the concept of clutching at straws is figurative. 2) I said “you do confirm that there are references” to Youdell which is accurate based on his post. 3) None of your statements have evidence. 4) None of your statements denies there are references, just whether you would place much weight on them or not. 5) I did not take a position on my belief or disbelief of this information, I simply said that he confirmed there were references which was good. You really don’t get logic and evidence.

[@John_Lyle]

@@tjones5719 There are *Forged* references, and the copy of Josephus that Origen -"found" The Testimonium Flavianum in is the copy that he inherited from Origen, author of the work "Contra Celsum" in which Origen admitted that Josephus made no reference to Jesus or Nazareth, and that Josephus did not recognise Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah. The main reason that Josephus did not recognise Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah is that Josephus had cited someone else to fill that position, his candidate being his patron, the Roman emperor Vespasian (Titus Flavius Vespasianus) The Josephus entries were widely accepted as forgeries even by Church authorities until the early 20th century and then a surge of evangelical pressure brought on by the belief that the world was to end sometime around 1914 (an idea popular among many Christian cults of the late nineteenth century) led to the world's first secular nation becoming a hotbed of dogmatic religious fervour and the revival of many pseudepigraphies as "the gospel truth". I suggest you read Dr Paul Hopper's linguistic analysis of the Testimonium Flavianum in which he shows it to be a fabrication by someone like Eusebius. The writing style is totally inconsistent with Josephus but matches Eusebius to a tee. Forgery and pseudepigraphy has always been a hallmark of Christianity and even six of the thirteen epistles of Saint Paul were written by different authors than the main batch of seven "genuine" letters, and Ironically one of the fakes warns the reader to be careful because of the possibility of pseudepigraphy. (an early example of psychological projection perhaps)

[@lanceballstrong5239]

Absolutely fantastic

[@tjones5719]

If you want to be indoctrinated with atheist beliefs, sure. But if you even listen to his argument, he talks about not having proof about the theist perspective but then goes on to state that he knows there was no census, knows who was the ruler at that exact time, etc. This shows tremendous inconsistency because he doesn’t know those things, he didn’t live at that time which is almost the only thing that would allow Hitchens to know those things. Essentially he tears down one set of what he believes to be false beliefs with smoke and mirrors to hide his own set of false beliefs.

[@ergonomover]

@@tjones5719 Since Webster defines atheism first and foremost as a lack of belief, would you be so kind as to give examples of Hitchen's "atheist beliefs"?

[@tjones5719]

“Since Webster defines atheism first and foremost as a lack of belief”. Nice cherry pick and lie. Webster’s first definition (not foremost) is “a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods.” And that second one (disbelief) is believing a god doesn’t exist, same as you. “would you be so kind as to give examples of Hitchen's "atheist beliefs"?” And nice feigned ignorance. I actually gave an example right in my post. And you even commit a bit of a strawman because where did I say Hitchens had atheist beliefs…I didn’t. I simply said he would be stating atheistic beliefs. It’s like if you quoted things from the Bible, that’s not you having theist beliefs.

[@ergonomover]

@@tjones5719 You agree Webster's first definition of atheism is a lack of belief, that is good. You've come a long way! Foremost is defined by Webster as "of first rank or position", obviously "lack of belief" is given first position by Webster and is thus the foremost definition - by definition. Maybe you made another illiterate mistake - I didn't intend to deceive or get anything wrong. If someone lied, it was you. Lies are still NOT nice. Fake accusations are very impolite (to say the least), and you know it. You wrote of Hitchen's supposed "tremendous inconsistency" - is that the 'atheist doctrine' he is imbuing? Are you sure "inconsistency" is purely an atheist thing? One quick check on theist Stephen Ireland's tremendous inconsistencies doesn't totally refute your point? You have called this video an "atheist indoctrination video" and your OP here starts with "If you want to be indoctrinated with atheist beliefs" - so who besides Hitchens was supposedly indoctrinating those atheist beliefs? Please try to concentrate. Hitchens said "J.C. of Nazareth was well-know to be of Nazareth", not that he knew it, but that it is "well-known". The same goes for the bible claim of the census and of Quirinus as governor of Syria, it is well-known that there is no historical evidence for the census and that Quirinus was governor of Syria only after 4 AD, not during the time of Jesus' life. It seems the only "tremendous inconsistencies" are the ones found in the bible. Maybe doing a little research before saying people lied might help your case. Your stated position (on belief in god or gods) of "still exploring" should motivate you to do so, and to be a little more polite, acting in good faith. I think your failed example fails to qualify as a uniquely "atheist belief", care to try again? What are those "atheist beliefs" being "indoctrinated" in this video? If you accept Webster's first definition of atheism being a lack of belief, isn't the term "atheist belief" an oxymoron?

[@tjones5719]

@@ergonomover “You agree Webster's first definition of atheism is a lack of belief, that is good.” No that is a lie and shows how desperate you are. I gave evidence that it is not the first definition, you cherry picked from the first listed definition. You hiding behind this lie shows you already failed. “You've come a long way!” I’m still pointing out your lies with support, and that’s what I’ve done from the beginning. “Foremost is defined by Webster as "of first rank or position", obviously "lack of belief" is given first position by Webster and is thus the foremost definition - by definition.” Again a lie because it is not the full definition that is listed first and your use of foremost doesn’t mean “first” because you said “first and foremost” which now you are claiming is you saying “first and first” but you aren’t as that is repetitive. You instead meant the foremost in terms of a different definition like rank or importance and it is not. “Maybe you made another illiterate mistake - I didn't intend to deceive or get anything wrong. If someone lied, it was you.” A lie doesn’t require intent as we have shown many times. So you did lie. “Lies are still NOT nice.” I have not said that lies are nice. “Fake accusations are very impolite (to say the least), and you know it.” Nice lie again. You have no idea what I do or do not agree to in this case. “You wrote of Hitchen's supposed "tremendous inconsistency" - is that the 'atheist doctrine' he is imbuing? Are you sure "inconsistency" is purely an atheist thing?” You are strawmanning again as I said nothing about those being the atheist beliefs I mentioned earlier. “One quick check on theist Stephen Ireland's tremendous inconsistencies doesn't totally refute your point?” More from your strawman which makes this conclusion you are trying to make is a non sequitur - cannot base valid conclusion off of a logical fallacy. “You have called this video an "atheist indoctrination video" and your OP here starts with "If you want to be indoctrinated with atheist beliefs" - so who besides Hitchens was supposedly indoctrinating those atheist beliefs? “. Now you move the goal posts. Before you said it was “Hitchens atheist beliefs” but now you’ve changed it to Hitchens not necessarily having those atheist beliefs but conveying them. You cannot keep your story straight. “Please try to concentrate.” Nice projection of your flaw as you are tripping all over yourself. Three different logical fallacies, continued lies and cherry pick of the definition while ignoring evidence. That’s all you. “Hitchens said "J.C. of Nazareth was well-know to be of Nazareth", not that he knew it, but that it is "well-known". The same goes for the bible claim of the census and of Quirinus as governor of Syria, it is well-known that there is no historical evidence for the census and that Quirinus was governor of Syria only after 4 AD, not during the time of Jesus' life.” Except he didn’t say it was “well known” he said “we know” which is what I said and is wrong. “It seems the only "tremendous inconsistencies" are the ones found in the bible.” Now you commit a Tu Quoque fallacy while not being able to refute Hitchens inconsistency. That’s your fourth different logical fallacy. “Maybe doing a little research before saying people lied might help your case.” I’m doing fine given how you had to use the logical fallacies and lies while avoiding evidence. So you should take your advice. “Your stated position (on belief in god or gods) of "still exploring" should motivate you to do so, and to be a little more polite, acting in good faith.” As I have said, it is the other person who is impolite not me. And I do explore that’s part of why I can navigate both atheist and theist talking points. “I think your failed example fails to qualify as a uniquely "atheist belief", care to try again?” Incorrect and you haven’t even tried to address the example - the actual example without your logical fallacies and lies. “What are those "atheist beliefs" being "indoctrinated" in this video?” I gave an example and you still are too scared to address it. “If you accept Webster's first definition of atheism being a lack of belief, isn't the term "atheist belief" an oxymoron?” Nice lie but that’s not the first definition as the evidence you have avoided showed.

[@lauriemaitiq8957]

We humans tend to make God in our own image. If we would react in a certain way, we assume God would think and act in a similar way. Isaiah 55:8,9 KJV 📖❤️ For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

[@rustycockering9925]

He says that the "central doctrine of Jesus is 'Take no thought for the morrow.'" Not "Love one another", Hitch? Really? When Jesus was asked what the most important commandment was, he said there were two; Love God and love your neighbor as yourself. He did NOT reply, "Take no thought for the morrow". This is a gross error at best and at worst, a calculated lie. Either way, the speaker loses all credibility on the subject.

[@jjpetkusiii]

Nothing was debated here. The fulfillment of prophecy over the millennia confirms the veracity of the Gospel always continuing to speak for itself. Everlasting salvation from sin by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ testifies of His eternal holiness. ο δε πιλατος βουλοbbμενος τω οχλω το ικανον ποιησαι απελυσεν αυτοις τον βαραββαν και παρεδωκεν τον ιησουν φραγελλωσας ινα σταυρωθη Translated flawlessly, the original Biblical text reads: "And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified" (Mark 15:15). Born of virgin in Bethlehem, the only-begotten Son of God is the Prince of Peace, and the Saviour averred the Hebrew Tanakh consistently as a documented matter of immutable fact. Even the senseless title of this absurd video is completely misleading, and its obviously revisionist psychobabble always was nonessential. Charles Lyell's geological deceptions set the stage for Darwinism, a Satanic fantasy couched in obscurantist jargon. Both the accuracy and clarity of the inerrant King James Bible are unrivalled in any modern language. Solid evidence based on more than 5,000 extant manuscripts established the integrity of the infallible Holy Scriptures that clearly record the death, burial and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ long before C. R. Darwin succumbed to his diseases in 1882. No species of plant or animal living anywhere on Earth came from another genus, and Christianity has nothing to do with "religion" inasmuch as it is a personal relationship to the Saviour at its onset. Logic guarantees that any "commitment to a certain kind of dialectic" inevitably results in circular reasoning, and modern geologists describe hell as the molten core of the center of the Earth past, present and future. I never converse with inanimate objects, and rational exegetes worldwide proved that the jailbird "FFreeThinker" website is a ridiculous Trotskyite cyber fraud operated by worthless spambots daily (ever since its unauthorized origin as that illicit nonentity a la mortemain). It often deleted important and truthful comments because such Internet hacker software cannot be formatted to perceive authenticity per se in a realistic context. It was very sad and indeed pathological that the alcoholic Marxist blasphemer "Hitch" deliberately lied about the historiography of the Old and New Testaments for decades, but he also died hopeless and unconscious on 15 December 2011 A. D. at an excellent hospital in Texas after a long illness. No offense is intended since his fatuous "argument" had NO substantial basis in ecclesiology, cosmology, ontology, epistemology, classical literature, archaeological discoveries, unadulterated linguistic derivations, British Common Law, or the scientific method, and anti-Semitic dogmatists without exception hate Genesis through Revelation in any case.

[@ergonomover]

"Jailbird FFreethinker": how long have you been peddling this lie? Prove it is not a lie by posting evidence.

[@jjpetkusiii]

You just spammed me again, "@@ergonomover' or whoever you are in real life. Try to omit your logical fallacies after you learn to read. That which is different is not the same. You lie to yourself constantly because you are in denial. QED.

[@jos.petkus509]

No one believes that '@@ergonomover' created anything.

[@jjpetkusiii]

You are not "@@ergonomover" in real life. You intentionally defamed me in an international public forum after you were repeatedly advised to desist, and your malicious libels against me without exception are still actionable. Your statements will be taken down in evidence to be used against you in courts of civil law in the Unted States of America and International Courts where criminal violations may or may not attach to you. You should face charges for your malicious libels against me in court in the United States of America. Your defamations were repeated in an international forum. You are therefor subject as well to prosecution in other nations where the precedents of British Common Law and the Napoleonic Code may or may not apply. That may (or may not) entail your prosecution for criminal violation pursuant by those courts.

[@ergonomover]

@@jjpetkusiii You failed to post evidence, you just made it up, it is malicious libel, shame on you. You tried to threaten me with prosecution, see how low you stoop!