The Truth About Bishop Robert Barron: A Conversation with Paul and Kristen Ciaccia

Paul and Kristen's Podcast:
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Chris Damian's reporting about Word on Fire:
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[@HershLundy]

Peterson looked so courageous taking on the pronoun nonsense. Not so much anymore.

[@kingofthorns203]

I've become quite disillusioned by him (as well as much of the crew at the Daily Wire)

[@premodernprejudices3027]

​, both are best left well alone. Zionists, neocons, and LGBT-affirming.

[@MidnightIsolde]

I think he was better when he was essentially just an academic and uni lecturer. Obviously conditions became untenable for him to remain in that job, however on the flip side he now has a sort of cult if personality around himself th

[@charlesnunno8377]

I was asked to declare my "pronouns" in a petty job interview. My humiliations and disgust was intense. I could not take the job. I blame you comfortable Boomers, who are COWARDS. You don't care what the "young" if we have any "dignity" left have to deal with in silence.

[@billjones8503]

Barron was on with Ben Shapiro, & Ben asked him straight out that am I going to hell if I don't have faith in Jesus ? Barron replied that we don't do that anymore, echoing Francis.

[@SheldonDsouza126]

By telling Ben that he goes to hell for not believing in Jesus is being judgemental coz how do you say Abraham is in heaven or Adam for that matter. To tell someone that he goes to hell for not believing in Jesus is taking the role of God. We are not there to tell people if they're going to hell or not. We need to tell them there is hell and there is a possibility of going to hell.

[@christopherfeeney1962]

@@SheldonDsouza126 To use Abraham or Adam as examples is very weak. In fact... Abraham and Adam DID NOT enter Heaven! They COULD NOT! i.e. UNTIL the Redemption had been accomplished by Our Lord Jesus Christ! "Consummatum est!" "It is accomplished!" Before the sacrifice of the Cross, NO ONE could enter Heaven. "No one comes to the Father, but THROUGH ME." "I AM the resurrection and the life"

[@grahamcombs4752]

I grew up primarily in the Archdiocese of Detroit. At a certain point, you move on. I am a practicing Catholic, but neither the laity nor the clergy want to know. The Sgt. Schulz Principle endures.

[@kingofthorns203]

This was very disturbing. I turned a blind eye to Bishop Barron's corruption because I appreciated his "intellectualism" and the work WoF seemed to be doing. Very disappointed in myself for being so gullible. I've canceled my WoF subscription and will be donating the books I purchased by Barron to the library.

[@MMC-jp1gl]

Praying for +Barron. Praying that all return to the One, True Faith i.e. Traditional Catholicism. The ONLY reason I am a Catholic is because it's what the Early Church believed. And no snake in bishop's clothing will steal my salvation from me. God bless~

[@adolphCat]

Did anyone even ever hear of Traditional Roman Catholicism before 18th Century? Why are you so worried about a recent Religious Movement? A Movement that is highly Clerical and by nature abusive. Why not rather pray that all return to Ancient Historical Christianity as lived and practiced by the Church East and West in the 1st 1000 years.

[@mariorizkallah5383]

The early church communed infants and gave the Eucharist in both species. Something the Council of Trent straight out denied and condemned. What exactly is this mythical traditional catholic faith? Even saint Augustine questions someones faith if they deny the Eucharist to infants. Rome is in schism and heresy, even your idol “traditional catholicism”

[@TranslatedAssumption]

Catholicism is a 9th century invention of Charlemagne which he used to impose feudalistic serfdom upon the proto-Orthodox Christians of Western Europe. Under Charlemagne's Catholicism you are either baptized and renounced Orthodoxy or you were executed.

[@hismajestysmen]

Bernardin did indeed have the Chicago Gay Men's Chorus sing at his funeral.

[@paulmacaree]

Hi Joseph, greetings from Ireland. Bp Barron endorsed the McCarick report; which was the church investigating itself. To my mind a whitewash. Bishop Strickland agrees. Would appreciate you take on this. Thx Belfast Paul

[@TranslatedAssumption]

I had no idea that Jonathan Roumie, who plays Jesus on The Chosen TV show, supports same-sex marriage. Thank you for making me aware of this, I don't think I can watch The Chosen TV show anymore in good conscience.

[@judycallaghan4889]

I don't understand why the Catholic Church won't fix this problem.

[@mariorizkallah5383]

Personally, it’s not something you should lose energy over. Or even let be a source of distress. The best way to explain it is that they’re not the true Church, so the reason why they wont fix this and all their other problems historically, becomes clear and in a way becomes sobering

[@TranslatedAssumption]

Have you considered that they have no interest in fixing anything? When I was in Catholicism I visited the Holy Resurrection religious community of Catholicism in Wisconsin and their community leader told me that the sexual abuse problems in Catholicism have been ongoing for several centuries. The way they described it to me was as if it was an expectation that those who engaged in clerical celibacy would have some means of engaging and unfortunately it seems that it usually ended up being with young boys though there was a pope of Catholicism that was infamous for impregnating a 14-year-old girl during his papacy.

[@dianneraimondi8382]

You are completely right!!! Barron goes with the flow. Not authentic

[@anonimo-um2ng]

As a catholic I was proud of your testimony of conversion and life, blessed be God for all of that, please Joe answer this question: did francis have to do with your leaving the Catholic Church? May Jesus bless you richly.

[@stevencass8849]

Not just Francis, but the corruption he sees as in the Church, eg how many bishops, here in the West, at least, positively favor homosexuality and other deviance. I am Catholic, but I understand why men like Sciambra, or Rod Dreher, leave for Orthodoxy. They’re wrong and I pray for them, but I understand why.

[@TranslatedAssumption]

Would you please elaborate on why you believe that they are wrong?

[@SheldonDsouza126]

I am waiting when Fr. Mike Schmitz will come under your scanner...

[@samn8309]

Barron just came across as a persona, an image and not a human being. She mentioned he's just branding rather than evangelization which rings true.

[@patcandelora8496]

Let’s face it. This is the future of Catholicism. And it’s going to be for a long,long very long time to come!

[@christopherbates1428]

God bless you, Joseph!!! Keep up the awesome work!!!

[@williamthesamaritan]

The Barron Rubin interview struck me as a set up. It allowed him to speak out if both sides of his mouth and soft champion his interviewer.

[@cannedspamm]

Gotta go to work but will listen latter!

[@hawthorne1504]

Would married clergy help change the culture of the clergy? Weren’t the clergy married for the first millennium?

[@Bolt892]

Yes mandatory celibate clergy is a latin innovation

[@BelovedSon]

The bishops used to be married and had kids but from what I recall the families ended up annexing church property once their dads died because all titles were under the name of the local bishop. The Church slowly mandated celibacy until it's now the norm in the West (unlike the East). There are also distinct advantages to having celibate clerics because, let's face it, there's no way priests are going to have the free time to celebrate the sacraments every day if they have to take care of their wives and drive their kids to school.

[@cozzwozzle]

Yes they were. The Church was Orthodox for the first millennium, prior to the papal reformation.

[@adolphCat]

​​​​@@BelovedSonThe problem is is what you say true? Roman Catholic priests have a almost universal reputation of being lazy. Are Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox or Confessional Lutherans or Continuing Anglican clergy giving less time to their Parishes and their people, do the wives of married clergy encourage their men to do the work of the Lord, in far greater portion than they and their children demand of them? If it was the norm for Roman Catholic clergy to be married would there be so many Homosexlists be interested in becoming Roman Catholic priests so is it the insistence upon a celibacy among Roman Catholic clergy causing sickness and degeneratcy in large numbers of the Roman Catholic Clergy. In my experience Orthodox clergy are more numerous per Population of Church goers many times in even small Orthodox Parishes of 200 people you will have 3 priests very few times have I ever attend either Vespers or The Divine Liturgy in an Orthodox Church where there was only one clergyman, yet having one clergyman in a Parish of 2000 is common in the Roman Catholic Church.

[@hawthorne1504]

@@BelovedSon I’m assuming that today the individual clergy don’t own church property under their own name anyway. No easy solution here but the clerical culture is a major problem, they are isolated from normal people, family life.

[@rachaelstanley6469]

Dear oh dear…all these silly men in dresses 😅

[@margaretbeveridge5743]

Peterson? I think your on the mark, Joseph. His latest money venture is interesting.

[@SaMaria1405]

Does Jordan Peterson believe in God now? In the past he has evaded the question so i don't know

[@Beserious795]

I think he does. His wife is getting confirmed tomorrow and there’s rumors that he is considering conversion as well.

[@Ac-ip5hd]

👍

[@TobychaserTobychaser]

He's a slick guy, like Elon. He was a breath of fresh air initially always saying go to your Bible. And yeah you would think they would speak out to the injustice but naw. I have since moved on to a local bible based church, not Catholic. And I have learned so much about the Bible in 7 years than the 50 years of being a Catholic.

[@stephenjohnson9632]

Sad to hear you were robbed of proper catechesis at your parish.

[@MidnightIsolde]

Great that you have grounding in scripture, but I hope you come full circle and realise you are missing pieces of the puzzle without the mass and sacraments. Frankly, mass is very scriptural, and not just the 3 readings either. So those who say Catholicism (and Orthodoxy for that matter) are not "bible based" are mistaken and convinced to think that way by the "bible believing church" spiel and kack of catechism. But otherwise God bless you.

[@Mar--Mar]

There is plenty of accessible information about the Bible in the Catholic Church for anyone who wishes to make use of it.

[@joanpiasio5350]

Joseph instead of leaving the Catholic Church you should join a TLM parish. You will find the true Church, yes of course all of us are sinners but they stick to the traditional teachings of the Church and the Mass is beautiful once you get used to it. The theology is true. Then you’ll understand the Bishops who are trying to change the Church. Also there are Holy Bishops like Bishop Strickland and Archbishop Schneider. They will give you great hope.

[@JosephSciambra]

You don't know my story. I was a TLM-er for over 20 years. Groomers in cassocks. The Catholic Church is gay. josephsciambra.com/why-the-latin-mass-wont-save-the-catholic-church/

[@TranslatedAssumption]

TLM is just a distraction to keep people roadblocked from leaving Catholicism and actually discovering true, historic Christianity in Orthodoxy. I am a former TLM guy historical realities of the first millennium that Catholicism does not want to talk about and actively seeks to hide from practitioners of Catholicism.

[@ryanscottlogan8459]

@@JosephSciambraYes just like you!