The TRUTH About Ceramic Coatings & What To REALLY Expect (+ Tips!)

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The Truth about Ceramic Coatings:
Truth #1: Ceramic coatings make maintenance easier but they still require maintenance (especially if you want to get the most out of your coating)
Truth #2: Water spots are the #1 issue that can happen with certain coatings, especially if you have hard water, park near sprinklers ,or let dirty rain water spots sit and bake on the car for long periods of time. Regular maintenance can help mineral deposits from accumulating but some may require water spot removers.
Truth #3: Coatings are chemical resistant (most up to a pH of 13) but they aren’t bullet proof. Road film, bird droppings, bug splatter, road salts (which are acidic), strong car wash soaps and high alkaline cleaners can weaken the hydrophobic properties and even kill some low-quality coatings.
Truth #4: Regular maintenance (think once a month at least) can help these substances (road film and water spots) from sitting for too long in the paint and keep them from weakening the hydrophobic properties or clogging the coating.
Truth #5: No coating is permanent. But they do last longer than any wax or sealant, will make maintenance easier and help keep your vehicle looking like new for longer periods of time but you get out of it what you put into it. Neglect it or abuse it and they won’t last nearly as long as yoj think.
Truth #6: Not all coatings are created equal. Even with perfect maintenance some coatings just aren’t that great and won’t last very long. So do your research (on products AND detailers) and have realistic expectations!
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[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I’m doing a video with Nick Rutter from Mckees 37 next week about ceramic coatings. What questions would YOU like for him to answer?

[@chromo48]

Ever since I saw your video about the 10 year graphene coating from Mckees (graphene pro coat) I've been very curious to see something to back up that sort of endurance claim. Of course, I'm sure that length of time is under the best possible circumstances, i.e. garaged vehicle, regular maintenance washes, proper application, etc. But if there's anything additional Nick can offer to help support that 10 year claim, I'd love to hear it. Or -- how long could somebody expect that coating to last on a daily driver in normal conditions? 5 to 7 years? Thank you, Chelsea.

[@02reaper]

Since he is in a state that has lots of love bugs, just like me, ask him how the coating holds up to the damage that they would normally leave behind vs a vehicle uncoated. I'm really liking their product, but what I don't like about ceramic coatings especially from the "PRO" applications is that the warranties are basically useless by the time you get to the end of reading them. It cost a lot of money around here for a coating to be applied that I have to take such meticulous care of for it to last. If they offer such great protection, then they should be able to stand up to most any chemical put on them, or any neglect from not washing them as often. If not, then what makes them better than a good spray sealant that last from one wash to the next.

[@stevenscerri9386]

Thanks Chelsea, loving the content. Nice work. With the McKee's 37 Graphene Ceramic Coating do you need to apply 2 layers? Can you apply 2 layers?

[@Hardcaslte]

I'd be curious about the effectiveness of only using hydro graphene vs a full coating. If you wash and detail your own cars, what would be the benefit of a full coating over using hydro graphene every 2-3 months since the hydro graphene seems to be close to the strength of a full coating. For instance, is the 9H hardness really necessary if you have a good stacked hydro graphene coating on your car?

[@stevejames1563]

@@02reaper - Ceramic Coatings are “ Supposed “ to be harder than factory clear . Gives a sacrificial layer of protection. Other sealants waxes give you about a day to get something off before it eats into it .

[@warren6172]

Remember the coating has a shelf life in the bottle once you open it. I ceramic coated my truck, wife’s car. Boat and motor, motorcycle, bicycles and even the bathtub and shower walls 😂 and I still have some left.

[@eppyz]

This video applies to ANY "coating" you put on your car. You can "maintain" your Carnauba Wax coated car as well. The problem I have with nano coatings is the marketing. They make them seem like the bulletproof vest for your car. Its not true. Depending on where you live in the world nano coatings can actually cause more damage. Example? I live in the SoCal Desert where temps reach over 120F in the summer. We also get Monsoons that come by during these crazy hot months. On an SIO2 coated car, if left out in the sun, a thunderstorm comes by rains for 15 minutes and then the hot 120F heat comes back an hour later? Well guess what? Your whole coated car is water etched with water spots so badly you have to compound the entire vehicle to get them off. Ironically, on cars coated with your conventional wax either synthetic polymer or carnauba this does not happen. Additionally, most nano coatings require ALLOT of prep work to get them to bond properly and most folks I know don't have the time, or the money to pay someone to do this work for them. I won't even go into cure times for some of these products which is ridiculous as well. Then the so called "warranty" that is pro rated and doesn't cover anything really. Its all hype. The bottom line is, find a product that you like and use it often. Find something that is easy for you to use, and something that isn't going to take your 2 days off to apply or prep your car to apply. Doing basic upkeep on your vehicles finish will pay off over the year's regardless of what you choose to apply.

[@aldaley3537]

That is impressive to not have been washed for 6 months in the North Eastern United States and perform that well. I have one car coated with McKees 37 Ceramic Coating.

[@Pittsburgh-412]

The owner not washing this vehicle for 6 months is better than them washing it in the drive thru car wash every week 😂

[@danlc95]

Truth. My mom washes her car a few times over the winter at the touchless. When I get to it on the spring it's absolutely fine. Just stains and grime - and that's with Optimum Opti-Seal. I may try Gloss Coat this year. I've had great luck with that coating.

[@davestewart9146]

I can vouch that life and the weather gets in the way, it’s been four or five months since I’ve washed my cars, drives me nuts lol, great video Chelsea 👍😁❤️

[@samsacre]

I’ve buffed my car with one of the 3 in 1s when it was new! I’ve just been using the latest SIO2 sauce!! I use Groits garage ceramic wash and coat and then I hit it with their ceramic speed shine! My car is still better than it came out of the show room going on three years now! You’re right it’s not rocket science… Easy Peezy!

[@hernansalazar2158]

Amazing work Chelsea. Thank you for taking us on this ride-a-long.

[@brandonf5558]

Looks good...I know you are tight with Nick from Mckees' 37, but this video still seems straight up! haha. I have used this coating and the newer version as well. I will say they acted nearly the same on application, and only difference was pricing. I'm definitely happy to see this update. I think their graphene line of maintenance products is a little overpriced to be using as a pro, but honestly the quality seems to be there, and it's a small price to pay in the long run. It's also great for customer synergy.

[@ShineAndPreserveDetailing]

Loved the beginning of this video. Was great hearing your interaction with the client and what your thought process was. What a great coating! Also the slow-mo was super dope 🤙🏼

[@grahambell9831]

Another informative video Chelsea. An excellent step by step guide with the right products as the cleaning process progressed was, in my humble opinion, on point 👏👌. Have a great weekend!

[@randyrockwell6136]

Great video Chelsea … very nice step by step explanation of how to maintain your vehicles protection. I’ve always appreciated your down to earth real life approach 🥰🤠

[@gnawty4662]

Goodness. What a great job with this video and detail ❤ I’ve been debating if I should spend my money on this (already scheduled the appointment) but you have reaffirmed my decision.

[@bengtholmberg8590]

One of the best and simplest videos about this topic! Its usful for me, as I paintcorrect, polish and coat my own cars. Thank u and cheers from Sweden 😊

[@BlackIce1619]

I installed this last Sunday because of your recommendation. Have not had the first wash after coating but love the review. Application was EASY!!

[@joerakoczy9186]

Great test!! Excellent presentation!! Keep doing what you do. Regards Joe

[@tucksmith8300]

Awesome job Chelsea on the video explanation of how a Graphene coating works and how it is maintained

[@tomlanko2547]

That looks better than brand new fantastic!! Great tip on using wash mitt to work in the iron remover!!

[@kevincampbell8298]

I think part of the issue with people not maintaining the coating is they din’t see the dirt the normally would.

[@ScrappersDetailing]

Very good and detailed explanations!

[@robertdiehl9003]

Awesome job. Excellent and informative video.

[@riceburner4747]

Hi Chelsea. U've put out some good videos, but this is the best. I think detail shops need to put out pamphlets when u get ceramic coatings done. Mine said just wash it, but it requires much more. I, too, would rather see someone NOT wash it than go thru automatic car washes. Wintertime is tough because, do u just rinse it off when super cold, or just leave alone until warm enough water won't freeze. 👍

[@David-Godin]

Wow, the slow motion looked great. Skills are on point

[@ronnymb67]

I haven't ceramic coated any of my vehicles. But your customer with this vehicle seems to have the most common attitude I hear about them. People seem to think they coat their vehicle and they're done. They never have to touch it. It requires just as much maintenance as if it is not coated.

[@millerdetailing4176]

Great video and topic of discussion Chelsea.

[@OzzCyrus]

I enjoyed watching this video and learnt something from it which I appreciate. Thanks

[@kyleguest3126]

Great info given!! When doing coatings on my customers vehicle's, I always give them the option of maintaining themselves or bring it back to me. 99.9% always bring it back, the other 0.1% I will supply them with a after care pack with the relevant chemicals to help them. It works as a good customer basis. Regards from 🇬🇧

[@dsbennett]

NuFinish is cheap, easy to apply, and only needs to be applied once a year. I've used it for years and it's just fine. Now they have a ceramic coating version.

[@iwayned]

Good information and detail (as usual) thank you. My question is a maintainence question. With a ceramic coated car (mine) having put on 2 coats of cereamic coatings last August, the car sat out in a parking lot for the winter. Getting back home it had some scratches on a panel. Light scratche lines (mostly only into the top coat not into the paint - except for a very small area). So what steps, would you suggest, do I need to take to get it back to "like new" in appearance?

[@jameshutchins3396]

Excellent video as always. I was watching this thinking how far your videos have come as far as quality. Well done mom. Very well done.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Thank you! That means a lot! I’ve come to enjoy the creative side of doing the videos and only hope to grow but still keep it organic and authentic

[@djsassafrass9126]

I was watching, thinking the same thing! Great job, Chelsea!

[@cfwebdeveloper]

Good stuff, I want to coat mine but I need to get my DA out and learn it some first then maybe I can coat it. Prob just do some spray wax or do the ole hand wax for now lol. Great vid.

[@marklengal9990]

I just used BC1 from Brian at Apex Detail. Wonderful stuff. Went on extremely easy and looks like wet clear. This was my first time using it and I love it.

[@johnmoore9282]

Hi Chelsea. Another great vid. Quick question (not related to this video)…Any advice on what compound to use to correct paint on Black 5th generation Camera with scratches down to base coat? Thanks

[@dianneboden4911]

I was very impressed thanks for your help

[@shannonokeefe220]

Great Job Chelsea🎉

[@bigmario7065]

Is there a link to the video when you first applied the coating on this Tahoe?

[@peted7687]

Great job Chelsea!

[@obsessivelycleandetailing2451]

Where did you find your wash mitt on the pole. I cant find anything that I like.

[@Hardcaslte]

Hydro graphene is amazing. I've used it as a topper on my ceramic from day 1 and it's like magic how slick it is. I've used it on non coated cars and they legitimately look like they have a ceramic coating after it sits for a couple of hours, and it will last the 4-6 months on a car that sits outside all day too. On wheels its awesome, I don't even ceramic coat my wheels I just use hydro graphene. My next car I'm going to try the mckees graphene coating. Curious about it and also using it on the windows. One thing I'm curious about is if you apply hydro graphene every 2-3 months (assuming maybe you wash your own car, etc.) How will you actually know if the ceramic coating is getting weak? The hydro graphene is so strong I feel like it would either mask if the ceramic is getting weak, or it'll just protect the ceramic coating forever. Not sure which.

[@gregoryp203]

I have considered getting a pro ceramic coating . If I have to maintain it, then that does not work for me? What is the difference than using an off the shelf spray-on SiO2 sealant/wax . I would still have to spray on a topper with the pro coating. I might as well use something like Griot's 3-in-1 ceramic periodically. What is the least maintenance for the best effect strategy?

[@bigmario7065]

Awesome job!!! 👍🤩

[@jaimedpcaus1]

Can you talk abt your pressure washer and why you use this one with vast number of years in experience doing this? Thank you.

[@jimmyjumbo108]

Really good thanks again for great video . Ever notice any benefits to using distilled h20 in final RINSE or EXTRACTOR? Just curious

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Can’t say for extracting that I’ve noticed a difference.

[@geefim2144]

What drying towel is that?

[@justinbelk89]

I’m a renter so I’ll be using car washes, manual and drive through. How bad are drive throughs for ceramic coatings?

[@pasqualepisani]

Great video Chelsea. The water contact angle is excellent especially when you flood the panel to sheet the water off 👏🏼

[@Kwharton66]

Good advice

[@ClarArt100]

Amazing video! Greetings from Brazil.

[@maryhoffman2547]

Amazing work lady! Thank you for sharing your experiences with these products. I hope to see you in Chicago!

[@sinnedm7452]

Hi Chelsea, nice work! I'm a fan.. Have you tried their Graphene Coating wax? I am curious since it has carnauba wax infused that may alter the characteristics of their coating.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Not yet but it’s on the docket to try!

[@aubreywhitley6889]

Chelsea. Another great video! When you're maintaining a coating with a topper that has hydrophobic properties, how do you know when the underlaying coating is failing and needs to be replaced? Since the topper itself will act as a hydrophobic.

[@jimmyjumbo108]

I've noticed bead tightness deterioration then the topper will TIGHTEN them up but just for a small amount of time generally from what I've seen

[@RayNLA]

Great question! Thank you

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I will ask Nick from Mckees 37 that question in person next week when I see him!

[@aubreywhitley6889]

@@attention2detailswchelsea If you would reply here with the answer, it be appreciated.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I will sometimes use a product like Carpro Reset and what that does is it kind of helps remove any toppers from a coating and can really kind of reveal the true nature of a ceramic coating and let you know what’s going on. They don’t hurt coatings, but are a great way to reset things and assess a Coatings performance.

[@michaelwise6410]

Question ? I just bought a new 2023 Honda with Pearl White paint job. The dealer put some kind of ceramic coating on it, I enjoy waxing and detailing my cars. Can I wax this ceramic coating ? ZI would probable use waxes without any cleaners or abrasives such as Collinite 845 or Meguiers Ultimate etc. What's your suggestions ?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Mckees 37 does have a ceramic wax that can be put over top of a coating that would give you that fulfillment plus help the coating perform better. mckees37.com/products/graphene-coating-wax?ref=w8gzhuoews

[@HeavyProfessor]

Best results for me are carpro UK 3.0 topped with gliss. Wash every two weeks with reset. Never apply any quick detailers or topper.

[@DMCnME]

Lancaster? We’re neighbors. I’m in York… and a newbie detail nerd. Having fun with it. Question… given the forecasted drop in temperatures this week, would you have any reservations about ceramic coating a car in an unheated garage? Going with DIY Detail 3 year. Love your content. Subbed.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

You don’t want to be below 45/50 degrees and it might require a longer dwell time before it flashes off and before you level. Even a propane heater or some form of heat during coating can help you be more comfortable

[@billbuss7542]

Do you know if Meguiars Fast Finish is still available and if so where?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I believe it’s discontinued

[@wolverine3344]

Very helpful Chelsea. I bought wife a 2021 Polestar 2 sedan EV and am looking to get quotes in metro Atlanta market, if you have a low to high range, or what to look for in hiring someone. Where do y’all operate out of ? I’d also like to ask what product family you used for these phenomenal results. Kind thanks and cheers.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I operate out of Lancaster, PA. Starting prices for a ceramic coating for me on a sedan start at $700 and range to $1250 based on condition and coating the customer chooses. But markets can be completely different for you as well as the shop you choose might have more overhead and options. But the product family I use for this vehicle is Mckees 37 and this is their 5 yr graphene coating

[@mariah.garridor.6997]

Is that the original graphene coating or version 2.0? It's amazing!

[@kavionebrown4615]

Original

[@kimnewling5728]

Does water spot remover aid in uncloging the coating even if there are no water spots?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Yes because some mineral deposits may not show as water spots but just in a clogged coating

[@Cando79]

How much was customer charge for this service?

[@pjfan173]

What’s your thoughts of going through a touch less car wash?

[@TrealTalk187]

Its safer than getting your car beat up with the automatic car wash. But the only negative thing I've heard before is that they use a very high PH soap like almost a degreaser that it can degrade your coating or any products you spray on your paint 🤔

[@dfwald4657]

My driveway is south facing and there are not enough cloudy days to provide shade for a car clean. If I get a ceramic coat on my car, what about using an automatic car wash and telling them to stop all the brushes?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Do you have a touchless wash you could use instead?

[@dfwald4657]

No, there are no touchless washes anywhere near me.

[@wayneeden98]

How often should the ceramic conditioning be done

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I recommend every 6 months to prevent minor issues from becoming major issues

[@dini1046]

Doing these massive vehicles must take a lot of prep.

[@baja_taco3564]

Does a ceramic coating add extra swirl protection?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Some can that add a micro layer on top of your ceramic coating. But no coatings make them scratch PROOF

[@SoleMax23]

Problem is that the average person, and it’s probably safe to say, the majority of people don’t wash their own car or even wash their cars at all. It’s easier for them to take it to a commercial car wash every month or two. I don’t have time to wash my own car plus I live in NYC so it’s not easy for me to wash my own car but I’ll wash it every week or two and I’ll pay extra at the hand car wash instead of going through the machines. 👍🏽

[@reeb9016]

Something like, "Sir, I recommend you wash your vehicle more frequently than never". Humor may make the point.

[@60trickpa]

Does your son detail his RC car :) ANother good video very informative thanks Chelsea

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

I wish! Lol

[@miragexl007]

Still not into ceramic coating vs other. Cost compared to what you get etc.. To each their own.

[@mingoreyes1]

Should I get certified for ceramic coated?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

With this one you don’t need it

[@sadoldgit313]

I live in a rural farming area with constant agri vehicles coating the roads with dirt! Ceramic coating would be a waste of time, wash and wax in the Spring and Autumn, forget about cleaning it in Winter!

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

It’s not for everyone

[@icecreamman1]

Forget being taken by the dealers take your car to Chelsea and get a first class job at a lower price.

[@wayneeden98]

I honestly thought that the ceramic coating conditioning was a wax product, instead of a liquid, and I'd also like to know the name of what you were using, it's an M------ something,

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Mckees 37 Graphene ceramic coating

[@jsnx9067]

what kind of wash isnt a "contact wash"??

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Touchless isn’t a contact wash

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Awesome!!!

[@lewisreinhold6398]

Thank you for the reality check Chelsea! Another sensational video.

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

We tell all our clients that if they get a ceramic coating with us, our warranty is only good if we are doing the monthly maintenance, otherwise we have zero control over what nonsense solutions the client will seek out if left to their own devices.

[@altillman1448]

The warranty claims are backed by the manufacturers terms and conditions. Be cautious taking away from the stated conditions by pushing in house maintenance plans. I would encourage you to sell all installations as A.) Coating Applied Only B.) Coating with Bi-Weekly Maintenance and C.) Coating with Bi-Weekly Maintenance + Annual Rejuvination. Let the customer ASK why these are important and discuss the limitations of warranty claims within the manufacturers guidelines. Paint Correction should be separate charge as Single or Multi Stage , along with selling coating manufacturer specific after care maintenance products to those who desire to DIY. All of whch are mini add on profit centers!

[@_GandalfTheGrey_]

@@altillman1448 That’s great advice thank you!

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

For 6 months through snow and slush, Car's looking clean to start with i personally don't know what all this "coatings" Huff and puff is coming from in the comments. 🤷‍♂️

[@uik99]

They have beeen around a while, nothing new. Get a legit known coating that works and upkeep is key to longevity.

[@wayneeden98]

You just said every possible 6 Months?

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Ideally but at least every year

[@jeffreyrobert9460]

You should be maintenance washing this vehicle every 4 weeks. He invested all that time and $ for a coating then doesn’t wash it in 6 months? SMH

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Keep in mind it was over winter where most up here don’t wash at all until the frost is gone

[@07wrxtr1]

I would point him to a touchless wash he can use or a wash bay where he can high pressure rinse. Usually the owners will salt the floor area so you can stand safely even in below freezing weather as you hot it with some water to knock down the perma dirt buildup…. I look at it like a “better than nothing” situation to get through those cold months…

[@davidpavlich8939]

Not washed for 6 months?! Obviously not a carguy.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

Just a very busy dad

[@Tundra_Guy]

Coatings are way overrated. As you just showed, after 6 months it's barely still there but now you have to top it with "coating maintenance" products. From here on out, all you're seeing is the properties of the topper and no longer the true coating. It will be impossible to know the coating's longevity as it's constantly being topped off regularly. In my opinion they aren't worth the hassle. Coating companies know this and that's why they want their consumers to keep topping it off. A sealant will easily last you a year with way less work.

[@attention2detailswchelsea]

After 6 months unwashed it actually looked very impressive after we did a simple wash and it didn’t NEED topped but I did so to stay on top of maintenance

[@marklittleton1309]

I'm not sure what coating you were looking at, but this one was far from being barely there. It looked pretty fantastic for having been completely neglected for 6 months. I'm certainly impressed!

[@fjoco1]

The coating looked amazing I’m not sure what you were looking at. Did you hear the part when she said it was not washed for 6 months?

[@Tundra_Guy]

@@fjoco1 Yes, I saw the entire video. Coatings need too much upkeep to keep them going for the way they're being sold to people. It's actually the properties of the toppers that you are seeing on the paint, not the original coating. All coating companies have maintenance toppers for a reason, the coating would be crap without them.

[@fjoco1]

@@Tundra_Guy Dude she said it has not been washed since the coating was first applied so no topper was applied either. Watch the video again and listen closely.

[@LCculater]

It’s a Chevy and just junk plastic ? Buy a lexus

[@sammitchell7310]

Consumer grade ceramic coating products will never compare to professional and that’s the truth. Common sense truth but I learned to realize that 😂