The TRUTH ABOUT MINERAL SUNSCREEN 🤔 Dermatologist

The TRUTH ABOUT MINERAL SUNSCREEN 🤔 Dermatologist ‪@DrDrayzday‬ on how mineral sunscreens work. Watch to learn what is the difference between chemical and mineral sunscreens. In this video I discuss how sunscreens work and the differences between chemical and mineral sunscreens. I debunk the myth that mineral sunscreens reflect UV rays. #sunscreen #skincaremyths #dermatologist
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Federal Register. Proposed rules: sunscreen drug products for over-the-counter human use. Fed Regist 1978; 43: 38250-38251.
Kollias N, Baqer A, Naqvi R. Fiber optic spectrophotometer for noninvasive transmission and diffuse reflection studies. Spectrosc Lett 1986; 19: 149-150.
Federal Register. Final rule: sunscreen drug products for over-the-counter human use. Fed Regist 1999; 64: 27680.
Kollias N. The Absorption Properties of "Physical" Sunscreens. Arch Dermatol. 1999;135(2):209-a-210. doi:10-1001/pubs.Arch Dermatol.-ISSN-0003-987x-135-2-dlt0299
Cole C, Shyr T, Ou-Yang H. Metal oxide sunscreens protect skin by absorption, not by reflection or scattering. Photodermatol Photoimmunol Photomed. 2016 Jan;32(1):5-10. doi: 10.1111/phpp.12214. Epub 2015 Nov 10. PMID: 26431814.
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[@Leuca.]

Accepting new information and moving forward accordingly is how science and medicine progress! Kudos to you, Dr. Dray.

[@Katiediddance]

Once again, measured, factual scientific data. I love your approach and calling out "fear mongering" and making knowledge accessible to everyone. Love what you do here. Brava!

[@diya_ratnani4]

I have used minimallist and dot en key sunscreens, but they felt too oily and caused excessive sweating. Then I tried littlleeextra’s rice berry sunscreen, and I must say it’s the best sunscreen I’ve found!

[@Brahman-x4z]

any other try?😊

[@9405288]

Rice berry, probably not effective sunscreen

[@GuillermoRojas-z5y]

comment 4 months ago, account created 4 months ago...

[@pameladonner4397]

I am a chemist and this was a great explanation. Thank you Dr. Dray!

[@anittaPapi]

You should also make videos on youtube, 🙏

[@db-gb5xi]

@@facts-truth-lies Lab Muffin probably has videos on that.

[@karikelly2797]

Another chemist here to say the same. Nice job.

[@jacobovs]

5:53 a really good explanation of the organic vs inorganic screens. There is a hole in the explanation though. UV is ~280-400nm. Looks like about 55% is reflected by Ti in the 350-400nm. Is there any absorbed? Does that mean that at those wavelengths 45% is getting through to my skin? What is the ultimate exposure comparison for a good organic vs inorganic. That’s the question that needs to be answered. In other words, with a recommended coat of both, what type of exposure across the UV spectrum am I getting?

[@VeganAncientDragonKnight]

​@@jacobovs only "broad spectrum" give the full protection in both UVA-I UVA-II and UVB. It's also a major myth believe by most is that physical sunscreens or inorganic suncreens reflect UV. Most are UV absorb by zinc and titanium only ±10% is actually reflected not much unlike organic chemical sunscreens. That from an actual cosmetic chemist PhD Michelle who made skincare and sunscreens. And that's the general consensus. Don't just believe one or few papers or even a person, google articles. To be scientific we should be looking to ALL *peer reviewed* papers and studies. Other Scientists constantly analyse each others' papers and studies. Which they then compile in a paper called systematic study. Look for "systematic study" in google scholar search engine. Also in general when youre searching for anything, use neutral non baised terms. I don't recommend using one side, baised term, and anecdotals like "negative health risk of..." "... is a cure for eczema" "What products dermatologist uses..." "What save my skin from eczema" "Health benefits of..." or "...does it cause cancer?" A.k.a every single clickbait title on the videos and articles. These kind of statements more often very one side than not. Which just give you what you already believed or opposite of what you believed anecdotally. Which not at all productive. We want a more complete picture *_both_* the good, the bad and everything in between as much as possible. So instead use more nuanced and open ended sentences like: "how does... ...effect eczema" "how does... ...affect the human skin applied topically" "how does oncology patients' skin responds on topicals" or "skin absortion levels of... ...in actual humans and its effects" As you can see there is a lot of nuances if you want to be more scientific. Also keep mind that theoretical effects whether positive or negative doesn't often translate to actual reality. For example, an in vitro "cells in dish" or animal studies of any kinds; is time and time again shown to not very useful in a lot of practical situations; apart from niche but Important studies. We actually have to read the entire study to get closer that the paper is actually saying. Or people should at least read the conclusions and discussion part of the paper always. So you can not see why is so confusing. It's not that easy to be scientific specifically if the believe you have a long time or emotionally attached to is being challenged. The brain kind of doesn't that as much a possible. It's basic human psychology. That's one of the reasons most people don't know the scientific method or/and critical thinking. Instead the human mind tend default to confirmation bias and anecdotals story that supports our own. So in reality, physical is better a sun protection because they absorb uv not reflect it just like chemical sunscreen. That's the one of the "holes" you mentioned. Sunscreens of around spf 15 still protect you most but ±7% of UVB, spf 30 only lets through ±2% of UVB and spf 50 lets go ±1%. If you have broad spectrum or in other countries high level of UVA-I and UVA-II rating. You get a lot of protection with both UVA and UVB.

[@Alice77550]

As someone who is immune suppressed, post transplant, thank you so much for clarifying! Such a relief to hear this and I can now choose a daily broad spectrum SPF 50 that feels wearable rather than feel if it’s not ‘mineral’ I’m not doing the best I can.

[@Novemberrain111]

Goodmorning Dr. Dray 🌷and to everyone watching😊Have a wonderful day!

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Tuesday

[@thepuglady3931]

As a malignant melanoma survivor, it’s very helpful to know there really is no “divide” between the two so I can make the best decision for myself. Thanks!

[@Kathy-20J-73]

At long last YES. 😊

[@mrahzzz]

I think the big issue, that I'd be interested in seeing her talk about, is the argument about certain chemicals in sunscreen damaging the environment... From the NOAA's Ocean Service, some chemicals to consider trying to avoid in your sunscreen/skincare: Oxybenzone, Benzophenone-1, Benzophenone-8, OD-PABA, 4-Methylbenzylidene camphor, 3-Benzylidene camphor, nano-Titanium dioxide, nano-Zinc oxide, Octinoxate, Octocrylene

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

​@@mrahzzz just look for the ones that say reef safe.

[@chinitopinoy1726]

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet aren't all chemical sunscreens not reef safe?

[@nelan3334]

Dr.Dray could you please do a video about what happens to the sunscreen once it gets absorbed in the skin? How does the body eliminate it? Does it have side effects after prolonged use? It could be a foolish fear, but I think it would help a lot of us that have a bit of fear of everyday sunscreen.

[@bitterrussian]

Especially all the nano particles that seem to be in every sunscreen nowadays!

[@simontumulak2245]

@@bitterrussian y’all it’s not that deep sunscreens are hella regulated chemical filters or not they are perfectly safe. It’s better to wear sunscreen than without!!!!!!

[@lesliesmith7312]

Sunlight can cause cancer. Chemicals can cause cancer. Which cancer is worse

[@arielleclick9306]

Good to know! I'm "stuck" with mineral because I have an allergic response to the organic stuff. Isn't the mineral sunscreen better for the aquatic environment? I had heard that Hawaii was going to ban the organic stuff because it was killing the already stressed coral 😢

[@lauraelainedesilets1189]

I use both... Mineral around my eyes because I've gotten a slight burn from the other in my eyes and not because I exercise. I wear a hat and sunglasses and thank you Jesus I have done sunscreen since a child because of my mom. I exercise at 7am... I could never run in the afternoon. Not much of a sun bunny. Thank you as always answering my deepest questions!!! ❤️🥰❤️

[@janearcher3834]

I switched to mineral sunscreens because I never found a chemical sunscreen that didn't irritate my eyes if I got some in them.

[@kls6612]

I only use mineral sunscreens on my face because they do not bother my sensitive eyes and skin. Now, that tints are available in mineral sunscreens it makes them more user friendly. If did not have sensitive skin I wouldn't care, I would just use any sunscreen 😊 I use regular fragrance free sunscreens on my body. I really love the tropical scents but can't use them because of sensitive skin.

[@Vvarsha27]

Dr Dray you have taught me a lot about skin and skincare and I cannot thank you enough for that. I always come back to your videos because I know you are one of the most reliable and knowlable in this field. Thank you for clarifying the difference, really appreciate it.

[@karatalksaboutstuff7333]

THANK YOU for clearly defining "organic" in this context! I see people just throwing that term around and assuming people know they mean "carbon-based compounds" instead of being a reference to "natural."

[@dinurse8591]

So happy you are teaching this community about sunscreens and it’s terminology… it drives me crazy when someone says: I use physical sunscreen because it reflects…

[@ashanatrav5841]

Thank you for speaking up for us. Because YES being brown and choosing 1 sunscreen but having it in the back of my mind that I am choosing an ‘inferior’ product just because I am brown and trying to avoid a white cast did make me feel bad !! AND NOW I DONT feel bad thanks to this video.

[@a.harris2324]

I agree 100%

[@moideenfawaz5754]

@@a.harris2324what this dr is saying mineral sunscreen is same as chemical??

[@johnjones4049]

You deserve to be called Doctor, thank you great information

[@vithusanvelichore2748]

Thank you Dr.Dre for always sharing your extensive knowledge on skin care products and science in a very easy to understand simplified way🙏🏼

[@DrDrayzday]

Thanks for watching

[@sandralizarraga2832]

Great info! I truly don't understand the fear mongering around chemical sunscreens.

[@Andres-cf1wr]

This is what sets you apart from skin aficionados Dr Dray!

[@HawaiiBO808]

I'm a visual learner, I'd love it if you can include a chart or put the difference side by side etc. I appreciate those pics you post when explaining dermis, epidermis etc 💛

[@heidikamrath1951]

I second this!

[@helpfulnatural]

Glad to finally know how sunscreens actually work on the skin. Due to an allergy to chemical filters, I've had to find a way to like or even love my mineral (casty) sunscreens. But like a lot of other things we do everyday like, brushing your teeth, exercising and taking in nourishment, you just do it without thinking about it. 😜

[@Melon29813]

While I'm not sure what filters you're allergic to or where you live, you could try some European or Asian sunscreens if you haven't already! They have newer generation filters that are less irritating than the ones available over here in America (though I would check the ingredients list to make sure what filters they use, because a few over there have some american used filters in them)

[@audriiiiroberts3030]

I just found out I’m allergic to chemical sunscreen today :c it’s been horrible

[@helpfulnatural]

@@audriiiiroberts3030 I've broken out with nasty rashes from them, it's not fun. 🙁

[@seranarobertson3094]

When we went to Hawaii last summer, they were saying that you should only use mineral sunscreen to protect the coral reefs. In fact, on the Big Island, they were actually checking what sunscreen you were using at this one snorkel area to make sure it was 100% mineral. What are your thoughts on that aspect?

[@DrDrayzday]

Sunscreen is not destroying the coral reefs....rising ocean temperatures are destroying coral reefs. There is no evidence, outside of artificial lab models, to prove that sunscreen is having a negative impact on coral reefs. You could probably repeat those same experiments with a coca cola and get the same results, and then with enough lobbying and money....get coca cola banned from Hawaii.

[@sueraikow4721]

I live on the Big Island and the hype around “reef safe” sunscreen is a thing. I have never encountered the sunscreen police at a beach but I would not be surprised. I believe all sunscreens containing oxybenzone and octinoxate are banned however my derm carries an Elta MD with octinoxate. To me “reef safe” is one more buzz phrase to put on packages to make you think well of a product. Thanks Dr Dray for always providing sound facts. We are here for it.

[@seranarobertson3094]

@@DrDrayzday thank you 😊

[@seranarobertson3094]

@@sueraikow4721 I really loved our visit there but was a little stressed about the sunscreen issue - lol. Still plan to go back.

[@SueRosalie]

it's a myth about sunscreens harming coral reefs. It's climate change that is the cause. It's time Hawaii was up to date with their information.

[@cathyl3526]

If you want to go back even further, it was "suntan lotion" when I was a kid. Even religious application didn't protect my fair Irish skill from blistering burns. I have been fortunate my dermatologist has never found any worrisome damage so far.

[@c.c.2763]

I’m going to continue to wear my sunscreen. I use one you recommended, the La Roche Posay Anthelios Melt-in Milk sunscreen SPF 60.

[@donecurry1938]

I don't know what, or who to believe anymore, regarding sunscreen.

[@nocomment2725]

should i even put sunscreen on at this point😢

[@rasberryfields2132]

@@nocomment2725 I feel the same. The sun is nature's disinfectant. I am afraid of sunscreens!

[@i_curlyy]

@@rasberryfields2132 the ironic thing is that the sun causes most skin cancers 💀

[@ArtByStephenB]

Hmmmmm. Maybe the expert dermatologist with a PhD in chemistry who is talking in the video? And not fearmongering idiots on the internet who talk about EWG

[@ArtByStephenB]

@@nocomment2725…….ummmm yes. Consistent sunscreen application significantly reduces risk of skin cancer and premature aging. The answer is very obviously yes. Backed by many many many studies. Not even sure why you’re asking as if it’s a controversial topic. Wear sunscreen.

[@irisk934]

I go back and forth between chemical and mineral sunscreen. Lately the mineral sunscreen I've been using is Eucerin baby spf50, it comes in a white and pink tube. It leaves a cast, but I really like how gentle it is on my skin. It wears well under makeup and because I do wear Foundation, I'm not too concerned with the white cast part of it.

[@katydid5088]

Yep. I've found most inorganic sunscreens and combination sunscreens have solvents that don't play nice with the different ones used to formulate makeup. That being said, the Olay spf 30 combination (little pump bottle with a yellow ring) sunscreen that I know tons of people loved for makeup always made my eyes sting and broke up my preferred foundation. Unless I thinned a stick foundation in more sunscreen (obviously not as an actual layer of spf) I couldn't get that one to work. Otherwise, by itself it is great, although it's obscenely expensive. For the price I love the Eucerin spf 50 mineral and in the past used the Coppertone mineral kids spf 50 in the green bottle as well. Both tend to crease in the eyes so I usually use a setting powder very thinly applied over the top to hold everything in place.

[@irisk934]

@katydid5088 I'm putting on my makeup right now and I realized that I always have to blot my eyelids with a tissue with this sunscreen, before I start with my primer and eyeshadow

[@rosinagelormino2384]

I use this everyday too and I love it! It's hands-down the best mineral 50spf I've been able to find for face

[@coopergates9680]

I came across a sensitive mineral sun screen from Blue Lizard in my digging because it's tough to find any sun block with over 5% titanium dioxide for a decent price. Still not done looking lol

[@markislivingdeliberately]

@@coopergates9680that’s because it’s legally only allowed to be 3% by the fda in America and 5% in japan.

[@LauraOrtiz-hq1cd]

Recently, a doctor told me to use only mineral sunscreen for those reasons... 🤦🏻‍♀️ Thank you Dr. Dray, such wonderful and informative videos.

[@aqua_tofanaaa]

Yeah I saw a dermatologist for my melasma and they stressed the importance of specifically using mineral sunscreen for hyperpigmentation. It's unfortunate there are MDs spreading this misinformation.

[@jackie_jrml]

I was a teen in the 90’s. Sunblock? Never heard of it then. Baby oil and bronzing oils? Couldn’t get enough. In the 80’s and 90’s sunblock seemed like a 4 letter word. Unfortunate. Thankfully my skin isn’t too bad now in my 40’s. 😭 Thanks for all the info you provide!

[@Jasmine215100]

You really are lucky!

[@slickrick5596]

Born in 87, by early 90s i play outside 12 noon to around 3pm. No sunblock thats why i became so dark. I never wear sunblovk just now in my 30s because back then they have is narrative that boys who wear sunblock are soft, feminine. I must have known better than toxic masculinity.

[@Jasmine215100]

@@slickrick5596 I like Dudes who wear sunscreen!

[@slickrick5596]

@@Jasmine215100 thanks 4 the support. Maybe i can be your Aladin. We fly on the carpet, but first, sunblock!

[@slickrick5596]

@@Jasmine215100 thanks for the support. Maybe i can be your Aladdin, we fly on the carpet, but first, sunblock...

[@luvsmiling513]

Makeup consultant here. I had a customer specifically ask for a skin tint without any sunscreen because “sunscreen causes cancer.” Accuracy is definitely not a concern when it comes to just making a fear inducing headline.

[@denisedeleon2758]

Thank you for the update and explanation Dr Dray, you rock!

[@ljacobs5478]

Now I am so confused. I recently read a research article that said that chemical sunscreen ends up in the our bloodstream. Does this mean that mineral will too? Can explain what this means and perhaps compare and contrast the two?

[@db-gb5xi]

Other resources for debunking sunscreen fear mongering myths are Lab Muffin (chemist) and Mo's Skin Lab (toxicologist). There's a video on The Eco Well channel addressing sunscreen myths as well. Cosmetic chemist Esther Olu goes over the issues with mineral sunscreens leaving white casts on dark skin in a video on The Style and Beauty Doctor channel.

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings d b hope u r well n Happy Tuesday😀👍💜….

[@nadab4750]

Yes, I also saw Michelle (Lab Muffin) & Mo's (Moskinlab) wonderful recent videos on the subject. I subscribe to both of them, as well as to Dr Dray. 👱‍♀️❤

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings Nada B hope u r well n Happy Tuesday😀👍💜….

[@db-gb5xi]

@@nadab4750 Hi Nada B. Hope you're having a great day.

[@tatianaa.3694]

Yeah! For me Lab Muffin and Dr.Dray are the best ❤

[@Jaquelocean]

With that said, what is the deal with fighting melasma? A doctor told me once that because chemical (organic) sunscreens absorb light, the heat from light being absorbed and broken up can trigger melasma. Now that we know both types of sunscreen absorb sunlight, am I wasting time mixing mineral sunscreens to match my skin tone so as to avoid worsening my melasma? Should I just permanently switch to a chemical that I like? I’d rather use a chemical sunscreen but I feel guilty! Help me Dr. Dray!

[@CarolLovesJesus]

I have been using Australian Gold Botanical 30 to 50 block on my face & chest for 3 yrs. It is the only sunscreen that keeps my dark spots from coming back or getting darker. Sure, it's white, but what I do is let the sunscreen dry, then I put on my spf 15 foundation. They also came out with tinted sunscreen. Australian Gold lasts all day on my face. I love it!

[@MyCleverHandle]

AMEN! The tinted version in Fair to Light is often my foundation. SPF 50 with a nice feel and appearance!

[@1deadducks]

How do y’all get the tinted out of your clothes? It stains all my exercise clothes around my neck. Shout and spray and wash will not work on it.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

You should still reapply every two hours. It says it on the label.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

​@@1deadducks Don't use them anymore.

[@themikeroberts]

​@@1deadducks I use Krud Kutter degreaser to pretreat sunscreen and antiperspirant spots. They sell a bottle specifically for laundry but the ingredients are the same as the regular bottle, which is easier to find at stores.

[@jsvi]

I’m from Puerto Rico and I used to go to the beach at least 2-3 times a week, and walk to high school and college, from 16 until I relocated to Texas at age 58. I have always used sunscreen- always, first those stinging white creams until now these wonderful SPF products. Wear it EVERYDAY and EVERWHERE!!! No exceptions. At 62 I have beautiful skin. Genetics? Yes. Good lifetime protection?Definitely. You spend so much on nails and hair- your face deserves first pick at good products.

[@Jasmine215100]

I wish I had worn sunblock and/or sunscreen as a young toddler and child when we went to the lake when I was young! If only we had known about this then! I wonder if I had always used high SPF sunscreen would I still have developed the skin disease Rosacea as an adult? My grandfathers were both sufferers!

[@sarahjabush214]

Yes, I've heard that. I'm also a formulation chemist that makes sunscreens and know this is a myth. Also, great explanation.

[@21972012145525]

Hello, I have purchased a product that doesn’t have a label. Is there anywhere I can test to figure out the ingredients?

[@lenah5513]

Thanks for the explanation of how organic and inorganic sunscreens work. You also mentioned the importance of choosing the one your skin accepts. After several years of using organic/carbon based sunscreens with good results, my skin developed a bad reaction - redness, small blisters, discomfort. On the advice of my dermatologist, I switched to inorganic sunscreens ten years ago and my skin has been free of irritation ever since. Coincidentally, I know other Black and brown-skinned people who've had similar experiences. That makes me wonder about studies that explore how pigment/melanin impacts skin's acceptance of different types of sunscreen. Any reference info would be appreciated.

[@englishtea9163]

I noticed I develop allergic reaction (redness, irritation) to chemical sunscreens after a week or two. So it works okay for a while, but then it doesn't. I used beauty of joseon and hada labo.

[@humankaleidoscope4989]

It's the opposite for me. I have rosacea and always used inorganic sunscreens bc they were said to be better for sensitive skin. They irritated my skin so much and dried it out. I started trying organic sunscreens from Japan and Korea (specifically the beauty of Joseon relief sun, which is tested in 2 separate labs in Spain and Japan and is spf 50 PA ++++) and never looked back. Keeping an open mind and trying different things is so important. 😊 I'm so glad you found a sunscreen that works for you.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

It's not to do with melanin. It's just different people's skin in general. Dry skin, sensitive skin, oily, aging, acne prone, etc... Everyone tries to make it about skin color these days..

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

​@@englishtea9163 i used beautoof joseon too and didn't like it. I went back to Murad oil Control sunscreen.

[@lenah5513]

​@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Your use of the "everyone" fallacy suggests you're uncomfortable with topics related to skin color. So you make an unsubstantiated generalization and attempt to shut down my inquiry. If you have research from peer reviewed, scientific journals to support your statement that "it's not to do with melanin. It's just different people's skin in general", provide the citations.

[@AaaA-lh6hp]

Yes, definitely heard the myths and have actually seen them posted on reputable sources. Other statements I recall encountering are: mineral sunscreens "last longer" than chemical sunscreens mineral sunscreens are "safer" than chemical sunscreens Concentration/percentage of mineral ingredients matter to provide superior protection Mineral sunscreens are "better" for acne prone skin I still have to see a mineral sunscreen reach SPF 100. At most, I have seen SPF 60+ and those product are extremely opaque. I have also yet to see published UVA/PPD that passes 30. In my opinion, the best sunscreens are that combine both classes, especially Zinc and stable organic filters. A plus if the product has additional visible light protection

[@flowerpot3787]

would a good example of your ideal sunscreen be dr g.’s birdie up sun screen? I am pretty sure it combines both classes and used stable organic filters

[@AaaA-lh6hp]

@@flowerpot3787 I never have used this sunscreen before, so I can't speak on experience. The product claims SPF 50+ and a 4 + PA rating. This is a great start. I didn't come across its PPD rating. That would be a big factor to consider for me. (e.g. 16 VS 40 ) Another thing about sunscreens is cost. It's hard to justify very small sizes of product and high prices, JMO.

[@moideenfawaz5754]

@@AaaA-lh6hphey so physical sunscreen is better than chemical? Whether it is a myth that chemical sunscreen cause cancer as it contains harmful filters and disturb hormones! ?

[@dylannicks1146]

I'm tired of everyone telling me that I'm gonna get cancer over wearing sunscreen daily... There's no convincing fear mongering either 😢😂

[@DrDrayzday]

It can help prevent cancer 😂

[@celinepope]

I know! I work as a ski instructor.. snow has 97% albedo so it's like double UV potential. Coworkers would judge me for putting on sunscreen making the cancer claim

[@dylannicks1146]

@@DrDrayzday yup and my vitamin D levels are perfect due to supplementation and diet! Fear mongering is the worst

[@Muppet92954]

I’ve never had anybody tell me that before. Who do you hang out with lol. Seems like a lot of educating opportunities.

[@MyPhilosophies]

I've had someone call sunscreen "poison". Unfortunately, you can't convince someone like that. All you can do is recognize that it's everyone's right to do what they will with their skin. I can't force them to wear it, but it's also my right to put it on.

[@vivienneandersson6019]

How you apply sunscreen is important, people generally do not apply it thickly enough. It's OK to apply it thickly if you are on the beach or running errands but if you are working and going to meetings and need to wear make-up on top it's not possible.

[@mrahzzz]

The graph does a great job of showing this: the "mineral" (inorganic) sunscreens may reflect a little more in the UV spectrum than "chemical" (organic) sunscreens, but part of why they appear white and it's so hard to get a formulation to not leave a cast, is that the "mineral" sunscreens _are_ really good at reflecting light in the _visible spectrum_ !

[@21972012145525]

Good point !

[@kellyelliott2915]

Thank you for explaining and clarifying the information on sunscreen Andrea, much appreciated

[@0HS0uniq]

Hi @Dr Dray, I am currently breastfeeding right now and have always been told that women who are pregnant and breastfeeding should avoid chemical sunscreens. I would like to know what are your thoughts on chemical vs "mineral" sunscreens during breastfeeding. I would like to use chemical sunscreen as I prefer them over mineral but I don't want to take the risk if it's not safe for my baby.

[@aquababy5]

There are studies linking some chemical sunscreens to birth defects and reproductive effects, but that may be in higher than normal use age dosages. But yeah I’m pregnant and not using any chemical or “nano” mineral right now to be safe.

[@kimlandess8512]

Dr. Dre, the Doctorly team, and Shereen Idris all have very good information on sunscreens! I've found Beauty of Joseon (chemical) and it works well for me, but there are other great suggestions from dermatologists out there. On my body I don't care if the mineral sunscreen is white or greasy, but I can get BoJ sunscreen near my eyes with no irritation. You do need to reapply chemical sunscreens later in your day and I've learned how to put it on OVER my makeup without much mess.

[@ianmacmillan5832]

I'm struggling to understand the point. Is mineral sunscreen (primarily zinc oxide) safe and effective? A lot of people are now trying to balance risks posed by chemical sunscreens to their endocrine systems (ie hormones) with risks of skin cancer etc. That's what I was looking for. Can we get a video on that please with some suggested products?

[@VirgoKC]

Another myth regarding these chemical and physical sunscreens besides absorbing or reflecting is that some believe that physical sunscreens don't need 'waiting time' after applying whereas chemical ones do. Lab muffin channel has already proved and told us that both work immediately right from the bottle but they just need some time to form protection film on the skin for more stable longer protection.

[@erinellerbeck7969]

Thanks, Dr. Dray! I just picked up the Neutrogena tinted mineral sunscreen + the R&R sun serum. I’m on a mission to combat upper lip melasma. Because of you I’m also using 15% azelaic acid and tretenoin. Fingers crossed.

[@candydeville]

!!! I have the same issue!! My son calls it my sun mustache😾

[@neha6687]

Can I use azelaic acid and tretenoin together in night time routine! Please answer

[@ericksonsails]

@@neha6687 Search Dr Dray azalaic acid and tretenoin. I think she just did a video answering that question

[@candydeville]

@@neha6687 I do.

[@irisk934]

@6687 she just did a video on azelaic acid yesterday. Yes you can

[@lauraelainedesilets1189]

Dr Dray. I have used Neutrogena Sunscreen for years they were one of the firsts for me that had a tint. I taught fitness classes and it was enough instead of makeup... Before bb and cc creams. Fast forward teaching at Manhattan Country Club... Well known for Tennis. One of my clients husband actually works for Neutrogena and is rated very highly as the best skincare. I'm coming back from your Amazon Storefront. Will come there to purchase your holy grails because I trust your judgement and knowledge with facts.

[@mvwkout5714]

I have brown skin and don’t want to tan- so confused on which to choose now. I always chose mineral to reflect the rays.

[@di1330]

Thank you! I've been going nuts trying to use the "better for you" mineral sunscreens. Grandsons hate the gunky stuff. So if they/I don't wear it, it doesn't work. Very well said. I understood everything you explained. I'm forwarding this video to everyone I know. Again.... thank you.

[@brook2478]

In my early and mid-20s, I used to use mineral sunscreen only. That was when every KZbinr claimed that chemical sunscreen would destroy your skin and environment. Besides the white cast, spending extended time rubbing zinc sunscreen evenly irritated my skin over time, and they always wear off quickly. I use a lot of chemical sunscreen now, especially for the summer, because they tend to have higher SPF.

[@outtahere156]

Just don't swim in the ocean with chemical sunscreens.

[@brook2478]

@@outtahere156 I only use reef-safe chemical ingredients:)

[@peterkloostermann]

I would really like if everyone would just use the words organic and inorganic, in stead of chemical vs mineral. That's simply what they are called and also hopefully stops the fear mongering. Btw organic filters Tinosorb M and Tinosorb A2B also partly work by reflection and scattering and also leave a whitecast.

[@stevedorecharley2849]

Dr. Dray has caused me to love sunscreens of all kinds. 💕 A question: when I sweat in a mineral or tinted sunscreen, then what? Unless I’m at work, my instinct is to wipe my face with my sleeve. Which is less than ideal since I end up with white or tinted marks on my clothes. How do y’all deal with sweating with mineral sunscreens?

[@Blaublahblue]

Paper towel and reapply

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I don't use them for that reason. they're disgusting

[@jkpurple777]

Organic & Inorganic , how apt ! Thank you Dr Dray !!

[@ONCEINABLUEMOON1993]

FYI… zinc oxide and titanium dioxide micro particles are semiconductors. They have band gaps corresponding to UVs. Upon UV irradiation, valance electron is excited to conduction band. When the excited electron relaxes, it dissipates heat.

[@agam.5313]

And created more free radicals

[@carlosvalle2387]

Wonderful and informational video. Thank you Dr. Dray!!

[@auntiear126]

The issue for me is chemical sunscreens bother my eyes so I want to use mineral sunscreen on my face alone. Chemical sunscreen is fine on the rest of me. That is the huge difference for me. Please talk about this and why it might be.

[@ClaireMcD]

Same here

[@c.c.bryant9443]

I usually put mineral sunscreen around my eyes, chemical on the rest of my face.

[@allysonkinard8623]

Same! My eyes burn and water all day if i use a chemical sunscreen anywhere on my face. It’s an irritant for my neck as well, but i can use chemical sunscreen everywhere else.

[@greenthumbs01]

Avobenzone and Octocrylene are two organic filters that can be very irritating for a lot of people. Your chemical sunscreens probably have one of those filters.

[@clearaswater4424]

I love your videos💜 You've helped me to start tackling an extremely embarrassing skin condition. I was volunteering at my children's school and another parent was talking about me, it crushed me. Then I found your videos and seen some hope. Thank you for all you do 💜

[@Seal_pup]

Might I say, that another adult speaking badly about you is surely not a good person and does not have the room to speak about anyone else while they themselves display such vulgar and childish behavior. They should be so ashamed of themselves. I’m so sorry about how it hurt you, that’s completely understandable. I would be really upset too. But they, just like anyone else, has experienced something (as you put it) ‘embarrassing’ such as a skin condition, somewhere on their body. And if they haven’t experienced something like that yet, they’re in for a rude awakening when something happens to their skin that they hope no one else will see or talk about. Please know, you’re not alone. We’re human beings. Stuff happens to our skin. It’s doesn’t feel great when our skin isn’t how we would prefer it to be…but we have a community here that is supportive and ready to help and not judgemental at all. All sorts of skin conditions are discussed here. And I hope that you can feel safe enough to discuss your issues here and receive any help and information you may need. And of course Dr Dray is so awesome for providing all this information. She’s one of the best sources here that you can really trust. I’d say above all else, a board certified dermatologist is worth visiting if you ever want to resolve a persistent issue as fast as possible. I wish all the best for you 💖🌸

[@21972012145525]

@@Seal_pupagreed

[@21972012145525]

Seriously I would’ve confronted them

[@MS-sd3zo]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and research always based on science. It's a real luck to have found you. Thank you so much Dr Dray.

[@12280330]

I can’t stand the white chalky look of sunscreens. I guess I need to look for non mineral to avoid this. Thank you Dr. Dray!!! ❤

[@englishtea9163]

I really like chemical sunscreens as they don't leave a white cast on my tan skin. But I find chemical sunscreens causing irritation: not right away, but after a week or two. Physical sunscreens do not cause such a problem, but they're visible. The only way out I can find is to find tinted physical sunscreens. Unfortunately, it limits the choice when it comes to actual purchasing there are not many of such kind and where I live it's not that easy to buy, even online (the international shipping is limited as my country is a very small market and doesn't "exist" for delivery)

[@kristadata6611]

Is it true that sunscreens contain hormone disrupting ingredients? And which of the two would be a better option in that regard?

[@acebase555]

The biggest difference for me is how much they sting when they get in my eyes 😭

[@JuanRuiz-ji6ug]

Lol

[@swiftbear]

I'd like to know what's worse the sun exposure or the organic or inorganic chemical we lather on.

[@kilipaki87oritahiti]

If allergic to mineral makeup, would I also be allergic to mineral sunscreen or not the same?

[@aaaaaalison]

All I know is my face, neck, and chest are allergic to chemical sunscreens, so I'm a mineral gal now. Thanks for this explanation!

[@XtreamBrands]

I have the same problem. White tinge to my skin be damned...i tried chemical sunsreens.and my eyes were so itritated I couldn't bear it. I wear my mineral helios sunscreen and pat it on and apply my foundation and I know my skin is protected...i have been wearing inorganic sunscreens for decades and my 57 year old face looks a lot younger as a result.

[@davidshabas3839]

Hi Dr Dray so excited to be here happy Tuesday I live for this ❤️

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings David Shabas hope u r well n Happy Tuesday😀👍💜….

[@davidshabas3839]

@@whitneybrown4067 happy Tuesday Whitney 👍

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Tuesday

[@LaylaDSmith]

Frankly, i want to know if they work.... Not how. Which works better? Which is safer?

[@TamaraChandara]

Aloha Dr Dray! I’m currently pregnant and want to know if chemical sunscreens are safe for me to use? I love using them on my body. Much Mahalo! ❤

[@cherylb5680]

Just picked up Eucerin sensitive mineral 50SPF, didn't even notice the "mineral" on the tube but tried it today and really liked it!

[@tatianaa.3694]

So in 1986 it was already known that physical sunscreens do not reflect but absorb light just like chemical ones and there are still very recent videos of very popular dermatologists here on youtube saying that they reflect 🤦🏾‍♀️... how come they are not updated??! being updated is part of being a good professional 🤷🏾. That's why I always trust Dr.Dray ❤

[@moideenfawaz5754]

Which susncreen is good? Mineral or chemical . Chemical sunscreen contains toxic filters which can disturb hormones right?

[@andychen7390]

@@moideenfawaz5754 The best sunscreen is the one you will actually use. Neither is better than the other. As for the "toxic filters", no study to date has shown that levels of filters in sunscreen are dangerous or harmful, both in the short and long term.

[@ASTRO-R3]

I am confused. I keep hearing that if I want to protect my skin from aging I should wear sunscreen every day even on cloudy days to protect against UV rays. I also hear that the sun is the best source of Vitamin D and we need vitamin D for healthy skin. So how do I get the vitamin D from the sun while protecting my skin from damage?

[@lolo2lolo491]

I didn’t understand much from the video🤦‍♂️ can you tell me if mineral based sunscreen has better sun protection than chemical based ? Also is mineral based more gentle on the body than chemical one or are they both harmful ? Thanks!

[@mayperez4180]

Ok, I get it. “Inorganic” ones reflect more than “organic” ones, but that only changes names. We’d like to know what the danger is when they get absorbed, and if you have atopic skin are inorganic ones safer or not?

[@mobattah1029]

Exactly.

[@marcielopes2939]

Using “chemical” spf made my malasma worse though! I was using a physical spf, then decided to try a chemical spf, the chemical spf let my malasma mustache start coming back, it’s been months and it’s almost faded again, but it was so frustrating, I will only use physical spf now.

[@galaxyleonpk]

What brand are you using for physical sunscreen ? Thanks in advance😊

[@katenconn]

What do you recommend then for folks with a sun allergy? I’ve noticed that “mineral” sunscreens help minimize the reaction more than “chemical”

[@canine6023]

Thankyou for clearing this up for me.

[@mommomss]

Thank you for sharing 🙏 I have very sensitive skin under the sun who's a East Asian . I feel burning on eyes when I apply some chemical sunscreen 😢 Your lipstick color looks on you 😍❤️ Have a beautiful day 😊

[@claudiasmith9117]

Thank you Dr Dray for THE TRUTH. ❤ 0:00

[@ethanl809]

You ever going to debate Andrew Huberman on whether these active ingredients in mineral sunscreen cross BBB? Kind of seems in recent months he's halted momentum on this topic. However, it is interesting that someone of his stature is anti sunscreen.

[@larasunshine7]

As a melasma sufferer, I hear over and over again that mineral sunscreens are better for us. I understand to a degree why, as many 'chemical' aka organic sunscreens can be irritating, especially when using the older filters. But sometimes, I don't feel like wearing a tinted product even if it works. The newer filters are less irritating for many of us (some now have Blue light protection as well). Also, I'm not sure how much the iron oxides in a tinted mineral sunscreen are protecting me from Blue Light. One of the most prevalent things I read and hear about why we should not use organic sunscreens is because they 'supposedly' increase the amount of heat in the skin which can worsen your melasma. I have never actually seen or read any evidence of this. You believe it because it's already such a difficult condition to live with and treat that you don't question it. If you're listening or reading what Dermatogists say online, they know more than you, so they must be right? It makes it very difficult to know the truth. There are NOT ENOUGH DERMATOLOGISTS ONLINE who are dispelling this myth or breaking it down the way you just did. Your video providing clarity on this topic is massively important and I hope many people see it and share it. It is one of the most important issues that needs to be addressed. Thank you, thank you, thank you

[@DrDrayzday]

There is no truth to the notion that the heat from chemical sunscreens worsens melasma, as this “heat” is on such a minutiae level, it is not anywhere close to increasing body temperature.

[@beer_bad]

Yeah, I'm so tired of professionals trying to "help me" by selling me a better (and WAY more expensive) sunscreen because chemical's make the skin hot and both my melasma and rosacea to flair up .... 😝 Labmuffin has a good video about how that is just BS.

[@Elizabeth-nr8vo]

@@beer_bad Lab muffin ties to solely sell people on Chemical SPF…

[@ingrid48]

Heat in general, flushing can cause worsening roseaca and melasma (sp?) best to all causes

[@khadijatahira6955]

And what about the fear regarding the absorption of chemicals in the blood???😢 Another fear that hormonal imbalances can be caused by the chemical filters and are not safe during pregnancy too😢

[@ms.madhulika6591]

That was great information Thankyou ! But now I’m hearing that a lot of studies are showing that chemical/ organic sunscreens can get absorbed into the blood stream and that’s harmful ?? Is that true ?

[@clauddiamartinez9411]

Thank you for this explanation, always enjoy your videos!

[@duncaninnature]

Great video! I’m a 31-year-old recently diagnosed with phymatous rosacea, and I’m FINALLY taking skin care and sun protection seriously. Love the succinct distillation of the main points at the end. Thanks!

[@sturkiestercreations]

Ive got 2 different kinds of sunscreen. I'm also using tretinoin at .1 percent. I like using my tinted CeraVe 30% spf. My other is an off brand of 50%spf. Which do you think is more helpful? Or does it not matter.BTW, I learn so much from your videos.Been binge watching since I started caring more for my aging face. I'm 61.

[@stevedorecharley2849]

Now I’m wondering what exactly it means for any sunscreen to “absorb” all these uva, uvb, etc rays. How does something “absorb” light rays? 🤔

[@morgianasartre6709]

Lab Muffin beauty science has a more in depth video on how sunscreen works if you are curious.

[@designereats3661]

Can you talk about which sunscreen products that will cause cancer?

[@catwoman3247]

🤔 thank you so much for your help 🙏 ❤

[@facts-truth-lies]

Dr. Dray, does the ingredient Iron Oxide in sunscreen include all three? or should it state all three numbers like Australian Gold tinted sunscreen? Thank you

[@prettyinpink8349]

I’ve tried most if not ALL chemical sunscreens in the last 10 years and they all sting , burn or irritate my skin and make my rosacea worse. I decided to try a mineral sunscreen after coming across some KZbinr that said it helped her skin , I had no idea what a mineral sunscreen was but HOLY this was such a piece of paradise for my face. I thought it was some placebo affect in my head but I’m 9 months in wearing it and it has absolutely done wonders for my skin and my rosacea ! I couldn’t believe how calm and pretty my skin looked! It doesn’t hurt to try!

[@21972012145525]

Which one

[@Carelmartyn]

Oh hey, high five! 🙏 It's always nice to know someone who's in the same boat as me. Lol. It's still kinda sad that we're only a mineral sunscreen kinda girls. Chemical sunscreens are waaayyyy cheaper in my country but sadly they sting so bad. And the physical ones that are tinted that match my skin tone are Hella expensive. 😅

[@prettyinpink8349]

@@Carelmartyn yesss!

[@laam88]

@@prettyinpink8349 which sunscreen did you use?

[@Ad-Infinitum]

@@laam88 They don't want to reply 😠

[@RuthMcDougal]

I prefer mineral/inorganic because of how they are approved in Hawaii and better for the reef/marine life. Also it doesn’t burn when it’s in your eye but I hate that white cast.

[@zz-.-]

So which sunscreens do you recommend? This is an informative video but it still leaves us wandering in the dark with zillions of sunscreens that claim to do what you say. What are your 3 recommendations for daily sunscreen for people in the sun most of the day?

[@WiseFamin]

Thanks again for the citations!

[@raquelparramore1146]

What is better to use daily for deeper skin tones treating acne scars, chemical or physical sunscreens? Organic or Inorganic sunscreens?

[@grat2010]

My problem with the misinformation is the hate for the organic (chemical) sunscreens and that it causes people to not even consider using them as an option.

[@anaverran3040]

Very informative as usual. Thank you!

[@TsunamiBrook]

and which one of these sunscreen is environmentally friendly? I am an olive skinned person and I want to make sure the sun-screen I use is not harming marine life. Which would you recommend? (I live in Germany)

[@flappininthewind1]

Excellent video, Dr. Dray! I really love the science that you provide us. Thank you!

[@mariafernandadesimone5970]

Love you Dr Dray!!! Always great explanations ❤❤❤