The Truth About Race Relations in the UK

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💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥 Dr Rakib Ehsan is a research analyst and writer, specialising in matters of social cohesion, race relations, and public security. He holds a PhD in Political Science from Royal Holloway, University of London. His PhD thesis investigated the impact of social integration on the public attitudes of British non-white ethnic minorities. He is the author of ‘Beyond Grievance: What the Left Gets Wrong about Ethnic Minorities’ available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1800751044/
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00:00 Intro
01:17 Rakib Ehsan’s Background
02:39 What the Left Gets Wrong About Racial Minorities
07:55 The Political Narratives Being Pushed in Britain
09:54 What Areas of Integration Need to be Improved?
14:04 What Do We Know About Different Ethnic Groups?
21:17 The Problem With Middle Class Progressivism
23:22 The Over-Focus on Race & White Privilege in the UK
25:05 Sponsor Message: AG1
26:14 Do We Underestimate How Well We’re Doing Regarding Race Relations?
28:34 Public Disorder in Peckham
32:18 The Problem With Racial Tribalism
37:34 Why Don't We Talk About Tension Between Non-White Races?
46:35 How To Solve Community Tensions Between Ethnic Groups
54:06 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?

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@triggerpod
@triggerpod 9 ай бұрын
WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Rakib* answers audience questions. CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Intro 01:17 Rakib Ehsan’s Background 02:39 What the Left Gets Wrong About Racial Minorities 07:55 The Political Narratives Being Pushed in Britain 09:54 What Areas of Integration Need to be Improved? 14:04 What Do We Know About Different Ethnic Groups? 21:17 The Problem With Middle Class Progressivism 23:22 The Over-Focus on Race & White Privilege in the UK 25:05 Sponsor Message: AG1 26:14 Do We Underestimate How Well We’re Doing Regarding Race Relations? 28:34 Public Disorder in Peckham 32:18 The Problem With Racial Tribalism 37:34 Why Don't We Talk About Tension Between Non-White Races? 46:35 How To Solve Community Tensions Between Ethnic Groups 54:06 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
@matham625
@matham625 8 ай бұрын
Culture and the imputing of different Cultures at different times into the receptive Culture. The Best example of this is with the Caribbean communities in the UK. Primarily if you look at the several Diverse Cultures of Jamaica and others from Caribbean areas. Jamaica has several Cultures that were imputed into the UK at different times and their subtle differences show different social phenomenological outcomes. From The Kingston and North Western Intellectuals of Jamaica and the intellectuals of Barbados and British Guiana to the working class of the Jamaican Mountains and the Kingston Slums. The outcome of this is that there are some Caribbean elements that have excelled in Education, Politics, Commerce, Sport and Culture, some that have integrated very successfully into the British Working Class, some that are highly law abiding and devoutly religious and some that are not. Anybody that know “West Indians” will know this and has done for years, yet in the Racial Politics of the BAME study groups and their academic sponsors would like us to consider all these people as just “Black” only now with the obvious and complete inversion of all their theories due to the large influx of West Africans and Kenyans are they forced to maybe revalue their ignorant ideas. Yet even now it is with utter confusion and stupid questions of why there is a difference between a family from Nairobi that have arrived in 2020 to continue an expansion of their global small family business and the decedents of a loan unskilled man from Trenchtown Jamaica who arrived in December 1950. Why they ask is there a difference in outcome, experience and metrics? They should all be the same.. they are all Black. Just shows the deep racism of the intellectual progressive left
@OoO-rf2gt
@OoO-rf2gt 8 ай бұрын
Gotta love a big brown Gaslighting aye lads. Like conservatives are running around with knifes and acid.... "UK ethnic minority" aka "just a tramp from somewhere else you'll be robbed to support"
@Gringosaurus
@Gringosaurus 8 ай бұрын
Is anyone else exhausted with everything being about race, sex or ethnicity? I am so over it.
@user-ir1lu1ei4n
@user-ir1lu1ei4n 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 8 ай бұрын
in line with Rakib's comments, the virtue signalling, self hating white liberal middle classes would have nothing to think about if we all get over these subjects.
@DarkAngel2512
@DarkAngel2512 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Its called Woke fatigue.
@sdrc92126
@sdrc92126 8 ай бұрын
It's all a lie
@ingweking8748
@ingweking8748 8 ай бұрын
Me
@Hail_To_The_King
@Hail_To_The_King 8 ай бұрын
_"If the soldiers on the beaches of Normandy, 1944 could see what Britain has become they would not have bothered to advance another 40 yards up the beach"_
@wesleyhenderson9231
@wesleyhenderson9231 8 ай бұрын
I know, and we owe them.
@GodsCosmicBollock
@GodsCosmicBollock 8 ай бұрын
Why the italics?
@TheRetroManRandySavage
@TheRetroManRandySavage 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. So they would've just let Hitler kill millions more people? Yeah, makes sense.😏
@TheRetroManRandySavage
@TheRetroManRandySavage 8 ай бұрын
@@GodsCosmicBollock Because he thinks he is saying something really profound.
@cathy9183
@cathy9183 8 ай бұрын
No it means it was a quote of someone else.
@markhutton6055
@markhutton6055 8 ай бұрын
It's not just that people are uncomfortable discussing important issues, it's that they are scared. Scared of being arrested or cancelled for even asking a question.
@user-dq3xw9cv3e
@user-dq3xw9cv3e 7 ай бұрын
Only one population, which is the indigenous population, is scared of talking about race.
@johnmurray8454
@johnmurray8454 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in Scotland in a mining community and never seen a black person until I was 10. They were mormons and dressed in suits I was fascinated. We should remember just how much the uk has changed and perhaps give some credit to the British population for their tolerance. At the very least bashing the uk and screaming racist is not correct and certainly doesn’t help
@deanj9345
@deanj9345 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in rural Australia. I went to the local Catholic school I was about the same age; a little younger than you when I met my first Morman and Americans in suits, I was less fascinated and more terrified. They may as well been Aliens.
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 8 ай бұрын
They're not trying to "help" - they're grabbing power and status for themselves and tearing down society so that Utopia can be built from the ashes.
@nancydelvalle7728
@nancydelvalle7728 8 ай бұрын
They’ve been too tolerant for fear they’d be accused of racism. Not enough people focused on planning for the type of problems that naturally arise when such mixtures of cultures try to share the same space.
@user-dq3xw9cv3e
@user-dq3xw9cv3e 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. It's extremely progressive embracing lower education levels and high crime lol
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 7 ай бұрын
I grew up in a village in Wiltshire not far from Stonehenge. All white and still is The first black person I saw was when my Dad was doing a driving/delivery job and we went to Birmingham. We were living in Swindon at the time (1955) I was 5 and he took me along so we could visit a relative on the way back. I thought the black children I saw playing in a street we drove through had been captured and brought to England. I got quite upset until he did his best to explain that they were the immigrants children from the Caribbean. My Mum didn't come with us because she had to look after my sisters and my brother. We used to have a travelling salesman (a Sikh) call at our house in the village and him and my parents used to spend hours chatting away. My Dad spent time in India in the 2ndWW so he was very happy to gossip for hours with the gentleman. My Mum was Jewsih but only one very good neighbour knew as she had been a florist and had worked in London Hotels for many years. We were discriminated against for years from the time we moved there in 1958 though to 1965 when it all stopped. Unfortunately my Mum died in 1968 aged 47 from cancer. My Dad remained in the same house until he died at nearly 100 in 2022. The villagers told him he would be OK after 20 years of living there. Funny how he became so popular everyone knew him. He was a real character the church was packed at his funeral. He did a humanities degree when he was 61 (1982-1985) and got a 2.2 Hons. The students admired him because he annoyed the lecturers with his knowledge. Having lived and worked in the real world whereas they had spend their entire adult lives in academia.
@narendra62
@narendra62 8 ай бұрын
Try being an ethnic minority in Pakistan and Bangladesh
@Martin-88
@Martin-88 8 ай бұрын
Not even an ethnic minority. Look how Pakistani Christians get treated.
@johnw9038
@johnw9038 8 ай бұрын
Those places are shittholes because they are filled with Pakistanis and Bangladeshis respectively
@maravillabxr
@maravillabxr 8 ай бұрын
yeah your mum was, she loved it, everyone got sucked off by her 👍🏽
@nom278
@nom278 8 ай бұрын
Or india
@janetgray8638
@janetgray8638 8 ай бұрын
No thank you.
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 8 ай бұрын
FF's point is good - if you're white in the UK, you're not allowed opinion on vast tracts of public life.
@palerider955
@palerider955 8 ай бұрын
Well people say that just tell them to get f*cked.
@thevegandragon4676
@thevegandragon4676 8 ай бұрын
Why the f*** not! It's our country after all!
@elkpaz560
@elkpaz560 8 ай бұрын
@@thevegandragon4676 By what measure is it your country?
@Hail_To_The_King
@Hail_To_The_King 8 ай бұрын
_"Without millions of orcs, the shire will not survive. We from Mordor will play an important role in that"_
@ingweking8748
@ingweking8748 8 ай бұрын
You are brutally honest
@imarcher6629
@imarcher6629 8 ай бұрын
So said Barbara Lerner Spectre.
@user-ys8pq5vd3s
@user-ys8pq5vd3s 8 ай бұрын
It's the Nose and its age old ally, the Mos lems.
@danjutsu210
@danjutsu210 8 ай бұрын
"Ethnic Minority". Where. In Tooting? India?, Bradford? Mombasa? Taiwan? My living room? The planet? The phrase is totally subjective depending on your environment.
@loirenhuh
@loirenhuh 8 ай бұрын
Under the bed
@okgroomer1966
@okgroomer1966 8 ай бұрын
Not white is what they mean, even though most of the world isn't white
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 8 ай бұрын
​@@okgroomer1966Yes, 'white' is an ethnic minority. Very much a minority.
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 8 ай бұрын
​@okgroomer1966 that's correct. In global terms, whites are a minority
@james5637
@james5637 8 ай бұрын
White Europeans are an ethnic minority in global terms, but the left doesn't look further than Europe.
@dadoogie
@dadoogie 8 ай бұрын
As much as I want to see the positive in this guests viewpoint I can't. The complete demographic change of UK areas as well as the underachievement of native Brits is a serious morale destructor for myself and quite a few people I talk to. We've brain drained the rest of the world to discard the opportunities of native folk
@piecesof9
@piecesof9 8 ай бұрын
Uk blacks want to have Americas race history soooo badly, it's pathetic.
@DarkAngel2512
@DarkAngel2512 8 ай бұрын
Its people like Sasha Johnson, the people who protested for Chris Kaba and that Peckham thief dressing up like they're attending a Black Panther fancy dress party, with their indulgent asf speeches, who do my nut in.
@curtisbryce5096
@curtisbryce5096 8 ай бұрын
It is a small minority that wants it.
@teej70
@teej70 8 ай бұрын
Please don't make stupid generalisations. My parents who come from West Africa have never had anything in common with Black American culture and neither do I identify with anything across the pond!
@jim22277
@jim22277 8 ай бұрын
​@curtisbryce5096 Yes! And that small minority are the loudest, stirring up and dividing race relations.
@DonBean-ej4ou
@DonBean-ej4ou 8 ай бұрын
don't fall for it. Blacks in South London are more interested in football than politics. All the noise comes from a tiny mad minority and a lot of middle class white freeloaders.
@bapsy2962
@bapsy2962 8 ай бұрын
This country is so f****** weak its become sickening to me. I've had enough.
@lasttango7522
@lasttango7522 8 ай бұрын
Millions of us feel the same. But need to put bread on the table so scared of opening their mouths. Wait until the recession hits our backsides. Then the chat will be strong.
@neyzordabaws6381
@neyzordabaws6381 8 ай бұрын
no1 speaks the truth anymore. science is being changed in order to avoid offending people.
@neyzordabaws6381
@neyzordabaws6381 8 ай бұрын
once truth nolonger take presidence we are too far gone
@VelkePivo
@VelkePivo 8 ай бұрын
When I was young, children from neighboring towns in the US would have big brawls with each other, and very infrequently a child would be seriously injured or killed. We actually disliked people from a town 2 miles away 😂 That’s how naturally tribal people are.
@chadchadchadchadchad
@chadchadchadchadchad 8 ай бұрын
The fact that so many people ignore this obvious part of human nature nowadays is crazy. If everyone in the world looked the exact same, we'd all figure out a reason to dislike/distrust one another.
@brando8086
@brando8086 8 ай бұрын
For us, it was different high schools in the same city.
@isotonik
@isotonik 8 ай бұрын
yep go back to school days, big fights against that other school nearby , we hated them for no real reason lol
@clogs4956
@clogs4956 8 ай бұрын
@@isotonikthe other school started it, picking on us because we were at an all girl grammar school. They soon found out we had hockey sticks.
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 8 ай бұрын
Rakib always stands out as someone who talks sense on the media, which is normally host to a wide range of disgusting race grifters. That said, there was little here that we don't already know.
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 8 ай бұрын
The problem is everyone thinks the British are racist pigs, I'd like to remind people it was us that stopped slavery. I don't say it doesn't happen but I don't see every day
@margaretwaite7226
@margaretwaite7226 8 ай бұрын
It's not being said or admitted .
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 8 ай бұрын
@@margaretwaite7226 so please explain
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
Talks sense? He said France is evil for not allowing RACE QUOTAS
@murielbrown3013
@murielbrown3013 8 ай бұрын
I found this to be horribly accepting of the giant elephant in the room, namely the displacement and replacement of the native peoples of these islands. Why is it our job to solve the problems of people who arguably don't even belong here and could be happier and more at home elsewhere? Why do we have to bend over backwards to understand and incorporate cultures and ideologies that are alien to us and often destructive of our own culture and values? The White British popultion has been stable and seen no increase since 1971. We can solve the housing shortage, NHS crisis, overcrowded schools, patient waiting lists, clogged roads, overloaded infrastructure etc at a stroke. As an added bonus, many forms of crime, including and especially violent crime, would plummet if we take bold action and start putting our own people first. As G.K. Chesterton said, @Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.'
@GeekyC
@GeekyC 8 ай бұрын
Loved Rakibs point about the middle class being more forward about racial issues to cover up their financial privilege .. Been saying this for years and as someone from a council estate working class background i have heard their real thoughts and feelings about us as "Uneducated thugs and rats from poverty backgrounds dont understand politics and how the world works and are all racist because of this". Its why i hate the left now or far left whatever you want to call it. The middle class have over taken it and only use the working class when they feel like it and dont actually care about us and would rather we shut up than bring attention to their actual privilege.
@Tommo77ful
@Tommo77ful 8 ай бұрын
Most middle-class liberals would soil themselves if they had to interact with a working-class.
@GeekyC
@GeekyC 8 ай бұрын
@@Tommo77ful Council estates terrify them mate. Had one mate i took around to mine for dinner and the whole time she was holding her bag to her chest and asking if it was safe to walk around like this because she was worried she would be stabbed.. She even had her nose up in the air looking down on the people i grew up with. Learned my lesson that day and stay away from them now sadly. Doesn't matter how kind and polite you are to them they will always look down on you.
@CanalTremocos
@CanalTremocos 8 ай бұрын
The left forgot all about the working class and has been hijacked for the enjoyment of the middle class. Just like a nice quirky fishing village. Or the 1990s movie Weekend at Bernie's.
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 8 ай бұрын
Orwell noted the intellectual Left's disgust for the masses - and that was in the 1930s!
@mogznwaz
@mogznwaz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah they never give up their Hampstead mansions or private school places to benefit the ‘disadvantaged’ either. Colossal hypocrites all of them
@user-ir1lu1ei4n
@user-ir1lu1ei4n 8 ай бұрын
People need to be proud to be British and English FIRST and everyone always talks about immigrants and diversity of culture but what about our culture English culture!! We are turning into a mini america or already have
@duncefunce1513
@duncefunce1513 8 ай бұрын
Apparently in 1500 years we haven't managed to come up with one
@DarkAngel2512
@DarkAngel2512 8 ай бұрын
We didnt need to be proud before as identity wasnt our be all, end all.
@celladoor_uk
@celladoor_uk 8 ай бұрын
The Shire is basically British culture. It's been actively stamped out and only exists in enclaves, usually in the countryside. @@duncefunce1513
@antonchilinski9729
@antonchilinski9729 8 ай бұрын
​@@DarkAngel2512B S
@ChrysanthsMum
@ChrysanthsMum 8 ай бұрын
There should be no duel citizenship.
@murielbrown3013
@murielbrown3013 8 ай бұрын
It should be the job of foreigners to adjust and integrate, not us to adapt to and have to explain things to them.
@barbarossa5700
@barbarossa5700 8 ай бұрын
The biggest issue that the UK is facing is related to the separation of church and state. Most immigrants come with their own religion, which often plays a central role in their politics. They find it challenging to separate the two. Despite being a Christian nation in name only, the UK is highly secular. Religion is the primary driver of societal division, intentionally intolerant, and consistently elevating one particular group over others. This is antithetical to equality and, more importantly, equity, as it reinforces its own dividing lines. Similar to other institutions, it aims to exert control and expects nothing less than people's submission to its doctrines.
@markus717
@markus717 8 ай бұрын
Great comment, totally agree. And so crafty that you didn't even need to bring the M-word into it. I would extrapolate what you wrote into clear policy: all immigrants need to swear allegiance to the laws of the UK above all. For Americans, it's pledging allegiance to uphold the US Constitution. What document do we have?
@lorac5539
@lorac5539 8 ай бұрын
Dr Rakib Ehsan - in my opinion, is always well worth listening to. Great interview👍
@anarwally
@anarwally 8 ай бұрын
Here in America people constantly claim that policing is unfairly targeted towards young black men. What they don't talk about is that young black men tend to be the victims of crime.
@cb664
@cb664 8 ай бұрын
Huh? Don't you mean they tend to be perpetrators of crime?
@johnw9038
@johnw9038 8 ай бұрын
​@@cb664It's both, overehelmingly
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 8 ай бұрын
If you only look at gun crime committed by whites, the US is on par with many European countries
@james5637
@james5637 8 ай бұрын
​@@cb664Black men commit more than 50% of murders but are also 60% of murder victims. The left cherry pick data and blame it on racism, when actually it's the minorities overwhelmingly killing eachother.
@Hjominbonrun
@Hjominbonrun 8 ай бұрын
I am a first gen immigrant.(back here of course, my great grandad left the country) I will vote against anyone running on illegal immigration, and invoking identity politics.
@Raven44453
@Raven44453 8 ай бұрын
Do you mean you want illegal immigration and identity politics
@loopielou4426
@loopielou4426 8 ай бұрын
I feel that it does not matter if immigration is working, or not, there is too much of it. When the people of a country are clearly going to be outnumbered in x number of years then something is extremely wrong. However, it's too late now and we all know that.
@colinstock325
@colinstock325 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure the Anglo-Saxons said much the same when the Normans invaded.
@neyzordabaws6381
@neyzordabaws6381 8 ай бұрын
@@colinstock325 we have a chance to prevent it.
@krish4134
@krish4134 Ай бұрын
Put an immigration cap, and assist the immigrants in integrating in the country. If they refuse, send them back.
@TiGGowich
@TiGGowich 8 ай бұрын
Our society is so sick... it says a lot about a society where the victim is seen as the pperpetrator and the perpetrator is seen as the victim
@Hail_To_The_King
@Hail_To_The_King 8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Poland and Hungary 🤗
@VelkePivo
@VelkePivo 8 ай бұрын
The conversation seems to focus exclusively on the problems, or not, within racial groups. But I don’t think it’s wrong for native white British people simply to want to see their country remain as it was, with mostly white Brits. No one would fault, say, the Ethiopians if they were upset with a flood of white immigrants who changed the nature of their country. Racial composition is part of that nature. There’s such a thing as too much.
@DarkAngel2512
@DarkAngel2512 8 ай бұрын
I get people worried about a change due to mass-immigration. I dont get those who seem to want ride of immigration full stop. Those who push for an ethno-state. How boring!
@ingweking8748
@ingweking8748 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you
@duncefunce1513
@duncefunce1513 8 ай бұрын
​@@DarkAngel2512boring? What an odd word to use about this subject. Racial groups are not flavours of ice cream.
@VelkePivo
@VelkePivo 8 ай бұрын
@@DarkAngel2512such a thing wasn’t even on my mind, and I doubt it’s on the mind of very many people anywhere in the West.
@nawaz345
@nawaz345 8 ай бұрын
What would you do with rakib then, deport him?
@bri_____
@bri_____ 8 ай бұрын
WE WERE NEVER ASKED
@grannyannie2948
@grannyannie2948 8 ай бұрын
Nor were we in Australia. We never get a choice about immigration. And now if you have even one grandparent born in the country you are a minority.
@duncefunce1513
@duncefunce1513 8 ай бұрын
Has it occurred to anyone why Muslims might think the UK is an alright place to live? For instance, is it that in a couple of decades Islam is set to be the single biggest religion in England?
@ernimuja6991
@ernimuja6991 8 ай бұрын
Will be Anglostan in a bit. Probably won’t be a bad thing, but talk about cultural suicide.
@robertfm116
@robertfm116 8 ай бұрын
Probably won't be a bad thing? Trust me, it will be a terribly bad thing.
@ryanprice-qh2ud
@ryanprice-qh2ud 8 ай бұрын
@@ernimuja6991 Anglostan translates into the land of the Anglos, which clearly won't be the case
@arrows3576
@arrows3576 8 ай бұрын
@@ernimuja6991 "Suicide" would indicate that we did it to ourselves. We didn't. The UK's population never voted for increased immigration, and repeatedly voted against it - we just get it imposed on us from above. We have been selected for cultural elimination by the world elite, and the process is already largely complete.
@ottoweininger8156
@ottoweininger8156 8 ай бұрын
I don't want mass immigration but I don't feel particularly threatened by the whole Europe will turn Muslim thing. Islam is under a much greater threat from secularism than the other way around. Even in the Middle East Islam is losing a grip on the population in all sorts of ways: people are better educated, more concerned with their standard of living as their countries grow richer, religious policing is disappearing, women have more rights, mosque attendance is falling etc. It's exactly what happened to Christianity in Europe. Very soon it'll be very obvious.
@GaryTaylor-gp2qc
@GaryTaylor-gp2qc 8 ай бұрын
We totally need an encompassing british culture and values , unfortunately some religions and cultures just don't want common values unless of course it's their values
@ginamaria2530
@ginamaria2530 8 ай бұрын
I love listening Dr. Rakib. He speaks with clarity andcommon sense.
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
Promoting race quotas is common sense? Maybe 800 years ago
@KariMelander
@KariMelander 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for an important conversation. Thomas Sowell has studied minority groups all over the world and shows that race or ethnicity doesn´t determine an individuals performance in society but the human capital he develops.
@hariseldon3786
@hariseldon3786 8 ай бұрын
When I provide some of these statistics that Rakib is talking about, as I am very familiar with them, to my "Progressive friends" they simply either don't believe me or want to get really hostile/argumentative about the statistics and what they really mean. They just don't want to accept them and work with them as they challenge their schema of how the world, and they, work...
@OrwellsHousecat
@OrwellsHousecat 8 ай бұрын
(they aren't your friends. They only keep you around so that as soon as things get hairy they'll have someone to put on the bonfire)
@hariseldon3786
@hariseldon3786 8 ай бұрын
@@OrwellsHousecat lol 👍
@celladoor_uk
@celladoor_uk 8 ай бұрын
Well, I'm not surprised to hear that muslims view our police force favourably, when our police force literally enforces unconstitional blashpemy laws on their behalf and covers up certain crimes, like the Muslim grooming gangs, that help those communities save face. So I wouldn't say it is exactly a positive thing that they view the police force favourably, the police are more lenient with them and protect them more than anyone else. I suspect many native British people don't like the police seen as it seems that most hate speech laws are mainly imposed on them, more often than not incredibly unfairly, over none white minorities and even some white ethnic minorities, who can't even commit a 'hate crime' against the native majority in the eyes of most police forces. An excellent conversation and Dr. Rakib Ehsan makes some great points. I just wanted to add my two cents on that specific thing he mentioned about minorities having a positive outlook on our police, considering I am from Rochdale and have literally seen how the police force have treated certain groups favourably, over others, throughout recent decades.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
they despise white working class, just like our political, liberal/remiainer classes do.
@stephenbranton7318
@stephenbranton7318 8 ай бұрын
I would not lift a finger to defend this country, I moved out of the South into a Northen bubble of what looks like the England of 30 years ago. I felt like a foreigner in my own land. I will see out my remaining years in it.
@Martin-88
@Martin-88 8 ай бұрын
I think lots are doing the same. I'm hearing a lot more southern accents around my way all of a sudden.
@WhatIsBacon
@WhatIsBacon 8 ай бұрын
The fundamental problem with a multi-ethnic society is threefold: (1) Cultures will come that work against the native culture because people will always have greater ties to their homeland and their previous culture than the one they move into. (2) A small percentage of the native population will work with the outgroup to improving their social standing, even at the expense of the in-group. We call these people liberals; and they are traitors. (3) The constant societal attention and effort it takes to combat points (1) and (2) means a society doesn't work on frankly more important issues. That leads to either treading water or regression of the economic and cultural conditions. I've never seen a rebuttal of these points since they're basically irrefutable. Multi-ethnic societies, where ethnic groups live in close proximity, have never worked.
@rtgh2010
@rtgh2010 8 ай бұрын
Lots whites not just English do complain about the rapes the grooming the stabbings the terrorism. Most feel a bit of worry about the future there leaving for the children.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
sadly the children won't care as they're taught by Marxist teachers and left wing media that it's all normal & "progressive".
@marionreynolds7080
@marionreynolds7080 8 ай бұрын
I love the way Rakib promotes parental authority. There’s only one group of people more frightened of children than teachers …..it’s parents.
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 8 ай бұрын
Rakib is one of the good guys - a proud Englishman; zero victim mentality.
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
He demands race quotas. He wants pilots and surgeons to be hired based on race
@dava00007
@dava00007 8 ай бұрын
What he says is mostly obvious to anyone who lives in a normal multiethnic area. It's put together much better than I could do...
@rjdcarroll
@rjdcarroll 8 ай бұрын
Rakib spitting facts! His book is great, acerbic, short and enjoyable to read.
@rakibehsan3118
@rakibehsan3118 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed reading Beyond Grievance!
@philipmartin9599
@philipmartin9599 8 ай бұрын
Living in Leicester this man talks a whole lot of sense.
@audie-cashstack-uk4881
@audie-cashstack-uk4881 8 ай бұрын
If your white go to Maryland chucking narb road and see real racism last time there I was ignored totally and my cash was to be put on the counter and not the hand and my change thrown at me left Leicester 2012 Mivrd to guernsey to feel ENGLISH AGAIN returned to il 2017 drive thru Leicester went up north Leicester is a total dump and a ghetto
@watchman4todayreloaded192
@watchman4todayreloaded192 8 ай бұрын
Really surprised that KZbin hasn't stopped this programme already. Happily surprised but in general this is talking about matters that are no longer safe to talk about in public. Francis asks why we can't have these conversations, in a country where the Prime Minister gets questioned about making a joke or talking about men being men and women being women. Hate Speech legislation in public and in the workplace has become the greatest tool used for creating hatred and vilifying anyone who wants to debate these things.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
have you seen what Labour will do when they get into power? It's even worse than this lot !!!
@wrongthink3885
@wrongthink3885 8 ай бұрын
He's talking about a time gone by, I'm afraid that ship has sailed. Lots of stating the obvious but nothing other than the ridiculous idea that there's a conscious effort on behalf of government to make assimilation difficult, as opposed to being able to choose not to, and not caring to. You don't notice people who assimilate, that's the point.
@jkbrown5496
@jkbrown5496 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, he hasn't realized that universities are no longer places for the free flow of ideas and discussions. In the US or apparently the UK. The professors are internationalists and confer across borders to spread their cult of the dialectic.
@rakibehsan3118
@rakibehsan3118 8 ай бұрын
Believe me, I'm very aware of the cultural shifts within the university system.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
yep, they indoctrinate the young with lies and teach hate.
@horseman6468
@horseman6468 8 ай бұрын
The real truth is ,they never asked us.
@addermoth
@addermoth 8 ай бұрын
Started off ambivalent to the good DR, then started having doubts, questions raised, then slowly came around to the point where I am definitely thinking more about very good points raised. Good talk guys, made me think which is all I require.
@clogs4956
@clogs4956 8 ай бұрын
Having seen two large groups of young men facing off because they were of different ethnic groups - Kurds vs Pakistanis - I very much agree that the UK has imported a lot of problems, but no one wants to tackle such things for fear of upsetting one side or the other and getting slurred by the ‘victims’. Notice that the Leicester incident has been swept under the carpet? If one party had been young white men, there’d have been a lot more mileage in it for the talking heads and fhe press.
@TheFedaykiin
@TheFedaykiin 8 ай бұрын
Also the idea of western black people as a monolith (another thing that has come from USA) is wrong, In the UK and Europe there is a huge difference between the original settlers from the Caribbean and the later African immigrants
@JohnJames-kw5de
@JohnJames-kw5de 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant guest. I really learned a lot. It really highlights that these conversations aren’t being held usually
@mrsparklepants1705
@mrsparklepants1705 8 ай бұрын
Another brilliant interview guys! Thank you Rakib and lads, was a really good talk!
@rakibehsan3118
@rakibehsan3118 8 ай бұрын
Most welcome!
@perfect12386
@perfect12386 8 ай бұрын
Blyth is the poorest town in Northumberland. Around the time of the last election, 40% of families in Blyth were living below the bread line. I suspected that number is the same, if not higher now. We are a mostly white, working class community. When people start talking about racism and white privilege, I get so annoyed. I'd love those same people to come here and just spend a day talking to families in this town. It is not a privilege to be white here. Most ethnic minority families in Newcastle are much better off than the average family in Blyth. Class is the issue in the UK, not racism.
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 8 ай бұрын
Rakib I’m with you on 95% of your observations and values - but we need to distinguish between tribalism and racism …. the first is unavoidable, the second is toxic. How many Indian or Chinese restaurants or Pakistani shop owners employ Anglo-Saxon or Celtic workers? Wholly understandable - but the lattitude should be granted both ways - we generally choose to work alongside PEOPLE LIKE US, all things being equal. As an employer, a female, lapsed-Muslim, ethnic Pakistani was one of my very best appointments - and turned out to be one of my very best friends. But you CANNOT legislate for human relationships - and the working dynamics of a small business are BASED on human relationships.
@justjamie7577
@justjamie7577 8 ай бұрын
In the U.S. there was a study that "proved" job applicants with black sounding names were being discriminated against. It turned out that the white names were taken from the census records but the black names were taken from criminal records. So is it really the race or the criminality that's being discriminated against.
@hdnparker
@hdnparker 8 ай бұрын
A former Russian a South American and an Asian went to the pub
@markaurelius61
@markaurelius61 8 ай бұрын
A great quote from 21:54: A real problem is middle class progressivism in modern day Britain, because these are people who, I think, they almost use racial identity politics as a way to deflect attention from their own position of socioeconomic privilege. Many people are actually insecure about their privilege. I just think "Listen, enjoy your privilege, but don't get in the way of effective social policy". If you are insecure about your privilege, I don't know, maybe see a therapist, sort that out yourself. ... What racial identity politics does, is it offers them an opportunity to appear rebellious without risking the destabilization of their own class-based interests and advantages. ... The left still doesn't talk enough about class-based barriers.
@dissent6812
@dissent6812 8 ай бұрын
The people that you refer too are so preoccupied with identity and culture war distractions. This is clearly done to shield its self from open scrutiny, and instead of focusing on economic and class issues which could create some significant societal change for the better. It has primary always been the upper-class that has had the resources, knowledge and power.
@markaurelius61
@markaurelius61 8 ай бұрын
@@dissent6812 Yes. Like the suffragettes with their placards saying "Votes for women", when most men didn't have the vote. They have a conscientious blindness to whatever doesn't benefit them.
@GeekyC
@GeekyC 8 ай бұрын
@@dissent6812they only talk about us and class issues when it benefits them. Second they got what they want from us they drop us and bad mouth us. I’ve heard plenty of them say “people from council estates should have their votes taken away because they are all uneducated and racist thugs who don’t represent this country” bet we would represent this county if a war kicked off and were used as their cannon fodder while they stay at home safe. Hate the classes here with a passion,
@istvanczap3004
@istvanczap3004 7 ай бұрын
Dekulakusation shows that "middle class" people actually have the most to fear from class warfare. Most of the wealthiest would just fled, it is the middle class that gets lynched and their livelihoods destroyed.
@juliemauger6183
@juliemauger6183 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, educational discussion guys, thank you ❤
@Jordan-vf4up
@Jordan-vf4up 8 ай бұрын
Enoch Powell was right
@archieflack4505
@archieflack4505 8 ай бұрын
Wtf
@sandpiper9288
@sandpiper9288 8 ай бұрын
@@Weapon7286 What part of it is racist?
@imarcher6629
@imarcher6629 8 ай бұрын
Enoch Powell was right and if you find that boring you clearly have no interest in or care about a race facing extinction. @@Weapon7286
@robmarks6616
@robmarks6616 8 ай бұрын
Great episode again, wish this sort of conversation was much more mainstream. The conservatives need to be seen not as the party of racism but law order opportunity and fairness
@villeveikko1
@villeveikko1 8 ай бұрын
The minorities and people who has immigrated the country recently vote for left side parties and why wouldnt they because those left side people tells how you have rigth to do thi and that and right to have money and apartment almost free from the state etc etc. And almost every single one of those immigration helping organisations are run by left side people. And because many of those organisation is based on voluntary activity they have stronger drive for the cause. There arent any right side people helping immigrants and welcoming their coming in to the country because they are working their asses of or running businesses 🤣
@ianmatlock1
@ianmatlock1 8 ай бұрын
In the light of events on the streets this week this was a fascinating discussion to listen to re tribalism and inter racial and inter religious tensions.
@Northman_Roams
@Northman_Roams 7 ай бұрын
People coming over join the already established communities so have zero need to assimilate with the British. We are tribal by nature and this is happening all over Europe. The balance has gone down the pan and now we are reaping those rewards.
@annebracher1843
@annebracher1843 8 ай бұрын
Thank God! Someone who sees himself on the left talking common sense.
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful 8 ай бұрын
YES - we need to look at antisemitism in muslim populations. In fact, it probably is time for a few episodes exploring antisemitism
@user-dq3xw9cv3e
@user-dq3xw9cv3e 7 ай бұрын
Does the UK do "anti discrimination" by discriminating against the white indigenous population like in the US?
@tchai91
@tchai91 8 ай бұрын
Always such a great guest - funny, articulate and to the point.
@emilchocoball7742
@emilchocoball7742 8 ай бұрын
We need to factor in class as well. Immigrants who are from middle-class families (or have middle-class values) are are likely to have kids who better behaved and do better at school. In south London, I meet low-class Africans who are aggressive and rude and (if male) are sexually predatory; and I also meet respectable, educated, church-going Africans who are wise, lovely and polite.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
all this identity stuff in this country is almost all to do with class but they use identity to hide it !
@leunisvandewege9651
@leunisvandewege9651 8 ай бұрын
Nothing was said in this vid that I didn't say already 40 (!) years ago as a community worker here in Amsterdam. I was cancelled in 1982. Think Rakib has done a great job. But maybe he missed out on a very important element. (Because of his cultural background😅) Christian Protestant culture is very much a guilt culture. These middle-class progressives feel guilty about their position of socio-economic privilege.(As Rakib states) So their solidarity with people that is less well-off is a way of paying for their sin. ( That's maybe what makes kneeling down so popular😂) Before the 1980's this solidarity was with the "working class", but it was always very uncomfortable because of the reasons Rakib mentions. So they left the communist party, founded the Green party and started the "cultural revolution" by a "March Through the Institutions". This was much more comfortable because they could stay in their own "comfort zone" and maintain their position of socio-economic privilege without being cuestioned. Then de-privileged minority groups felt this necessity of these (elitist) lefties and started to expliot it.(reparations) These (modern, woke) lefties feel an aversion against the working class because it brings their hypocrisy to the light and shows the reality behind their ideals. Still think you have done a great job Rakib! Thanks.
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 8 ай бұрын
I can't help politics of the past century but i don't see hate like other countries. If British were so bad why do people of other heritage still want to come here? I have thai relatives and gay family members, i don't see them being outcast.
@kenricnarbrough8191
@kenricnarbrough8191 8 ай бұрын
Everything the dude says is spot on. Amazing thinker
@rangerwhite7091
@rangerwhite7091 8 ай бұрын
Great interview. Good to point out inter racial tensions as racism is so often seen as a white/black issue.
@mattanderson6672
@mattanderson6672 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant guest! He's right, I agree Thanks for having him on!
@Michael.Eddington
@Michael.Eddington 8 ай бұрын
When Rakib was talking about how minority-ethnic-sounding names received less callbacks for resumes etc, Rakib observed that "Francis Foster" is a very English-sounding name as opposed to his own. Francis' next comment (minutes later on a different topic) was about how his mum is a minority ethnic immigrant. He didn't want Rakib to think he had zero oppression points or what?
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful 8 ай бұрын
Re names, Jewish families very often changed or used anglicised versions of their surnames and chose very English first names for their children. Jewish people are well known for successful assimilation. On the other hand, we assimilate so successfully that we lose our culture...my kids don't identify with their ethnicity & my generation will probably be the last Jewish generation in my bloodline. More recently, I work with a lot of Chinese people & they almost all use western names instead of their Chinese names.
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
They just wanted to defend race quotas. Triggenomotry is just as regressive as TYT That’s what power does to you
@wbw910
@wbw910 8 ай бұрын
Why is income inequality a problem? If one culture has different values, of course you will have different results. Thomas Swell has been saying the same things for 50 years.
@matham625
@matham625 8 ай бұрын
Culture and the imputing of different Cultures at different times into the receptive Culture. The Best example of this is with the Caribbean communities in the UK. Primarily if you look at the several Diverse Cultures of Jamaica and others from Caribbean areas. Jamaica has several Cultures that were imputed into the UK at different times and their subtle differences show different social phenomenological outcomes. From The Kingston and North Western Intellectuals of Jamaica and the intellectuals of Barbados and British Guiana to the working class of the Jamaican Mountains and the Kingston Slums. The outcome of this is that there are some Caribbean elements that have excelled in Education, Politics, Commerce, Sport and Culture, some that have integrated very successfully into the British Working Class, some that are highly law abiding and devoutly religious and some that are not. Anybody that know “West Indians” will know this and has done for years, yet in the Racial Politics of the BAME study groups and their academic sponsors would like us to consider all these people as just “Black” only now with the obvious and complete inversion of all their theories due to the large influx of West Africans and Kenyans are they forced to maybe revalue their ignorant ideas. Yet even now it is with utter confusion and stupid questions of why there is a difference between a family from Nairobi that have arrived in 2020 to continue an expansion of their global small family business and the decedents of a loan unskilled man from Trenchtown Jamaica who arrived in December 1950. Why they ask is there a difference in outcome, experience and metrics? They should all be the same.. they are all Black. Just shows the deep racism of the intellectual progressive left
@SubjectRandom21
@SubjectRandom21 8 ай бұрын
You only have to observe the pc and woke to realise they are wrong about practically everything. Doesn't take a genius to know that.
@patrickcon1
@patrickcon1 8 ай бұрын
Well done, guys! Great conversation, once again. And well done too for not mentioning another man from Luton whose theme this has been for nearly fifteen years; a man who had millions of followers on Twitter and Facebook. I am of course, talking about Tommy Robinson. Like GB News, you've dodged that bullet! Well done, guys! They'll come for you one day and you will be able to say 'Not me guv!" - However, who knows, on Locals the situation might be different.
@larsthorwald3338
@larsthorwald3338 8 ай бұрын
Nice! This time, Francis waited a whole ten minutes before reminding us that his mother is from Venezuela. In the future, he might get all the way through an interview without mentioning it.
@paulo1787
@paulo1787 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful guest and eye opening interviewing from you chaps, wonderful work. Thank you 🙏 😊
@wiv2631
@wiv2631 8 ай бұрын
Common sense tells me that Dr. Ehsan is conveying a huge amount of words of wisdom to British listeners. The problem, however, seems to be that those who control (govern) Britain are not avid seekers of wisdom.
@ilselauwers6009
@ilselauwers6009 8 ай бұрын
I love Singapore . It really is a success story .
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
Look up how presidents are selected there
@The_New_IKB
@The_New_IKB 8 ай бұрын
Enforce the law until those who don't/won't follow the British law are locked up or have left!
@derekblyth5008
@derekblyth5008 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, "their kid's mate". I observed that a few years ago. Totally correct.
@nickjung7394
@nickjung7394 8 ай бұрын
History has been ignored in this conversation. When India gained independence, non ethnic Indians were effectively removed from any position of authority. Similarly Malaya, Burma, Nigeria, Uganda etc., had the same attitude. With Scottish, Welsh and Irish independence and, by default, English independence, one must wonder what the effect may be. The socio economic privilege presumed to exist in Great Britain needs to be taken within the context of the society that exists in the former countries of the empire. What is, for example, the net worth of Robert Mugabe's daughter?
@gluehoof573
@gluehoof573 8 ай бұрын
Very generous calling the Pekham shoplifter a "lady". She's a _woman_ , but she sure as hell ain't no lady.
@amjbzx7
@amjbzx7 8 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed listening to Rakib whenever he's on Spiked. He always talks with intellectual authority, but in a very "accessible" way. Also enjoy his wry/dry humour, just bubbling under the surface. Bet he's a good laugh when the mic is off!
@andrewhickling8810
@andrewhickling8810 8 ай бұрын
This guy makes the MOST sense - great interview!
@thevegandragon4676
@thevegandragon4676 8 ай бұрын
Sick to death of endless discussions about gender, race and god knows what else! England is a dying western nation, and we've let it happen!
@manusha1349
@manusha1349 8 ай бұрын
Honest conversation. Good job FF and KK
@trevorhoward2254
@trevorhoward2254 8 ай бұрын
You miss an important point in the matter of the attitude of the settled immigrats to current immigration which is that some like many indigenous people, believe that enough is enough. They are as affected as anyone else by continued mass immigration, perhaps more so, in some respects. Perhaps rather simplisticly, I liken it to being a passenger on a boat. I'm on it. It's full. There are lots of others who want to get on it, all of them just like me and with the same reasons. But it's full. I could complain and campaign to allow these people who are just like me to get on the boat. But it's full. More people will make it uncomfortabel. The bar will run out, the toilets overflow and eventually, the boat will become unstable and even sink. I would be a fool to campaign for others to be allowed onto it.
@robcz3926
@robcz3926 8 ай бұрын
great interview. unfortunately it's a matter of time until he gets called superficial asian by some labour mp
@joebagodonuts8119
@joebagodonuts8119 9 ай бұрын
E V E R Y T H I N G
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 9 ай бұрын
👍
@Han_Shot_1st
@Han_Shot_1st 8 ай бұрын
You want to be considered any more than just a forigner, then be here because you want to be a part of the nation, her herratage & culture. Embrace her history & values. Integrate. Without these things you're simply foreign occupiers. And my own Indian, Packistani, Jewish mates would agree. They chose to integrate, because they loved the idea & ideals this nation once represented.
@joycegibbs5267
@joycegibbs5267 8 ай бұрын
unfortunately, "progressives" of whatever colour/religion, have demonised our culture and history so badly now, what have they got to follow. Seems most of the other cultures still have what we have destroyed ?
@DC3Refom
@DC3Refom 8 ай бұрын
Well said mate , this is a big problem
@JessTarn
@JessTarn 8 ай бұрын
What are the racial minorities world wide? Not nation per nation but globally? Anyone know?
@anomietoponymie2140
@anomietoponymie2140 8 ай бұрын
I suppose that would depend on how you break people up into groups. Looking around the web, I find people saying "white" people represent 6-8% of the world population.
@Mobilise1886
@Mobilise1886 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic discussion. Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you✌🏾
@jossangeles4011
@jossangeles4011 8 ай бұрын
This is a subject that I feel people don't want to discuss in the public square. POC discrimination to other POC is probably more problematic than white discrimination to POC. As a black woman in the last 10 years my worse experiences and the vast majority of discrimination I have dealt with were from other POC. Particularly South and East Asians. Some have been cruel to me.
@DarkAngel2512
@DarkAngel2512 8 ай бұрын
Bring it on!
@goldenvulture6818
@goldenvulture6818 8 ай бұрын
Immigrant, Migrant & Refugee are three completely different things. Never conflate them.
@acacia_w
@acacia_w 8 ай бұрын
Excellent guest. I'll be following his work from now on.
@richardouvrier3078
@richardouvrier3078 8 ай бұрын
Dr Rakib is intelligent.
@thorstenmarquardt7274
@thorstenmarquardt7274 8 ай бұрын
Barely average
@WithTwoFlakes
@WithTwoFlakes 7 ай бұрын
The most common sense I've heard in quite some time. Why on earth isn't this bloke a regular on Question Time, Newsnight etc ?
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