The Truth About the "GOOD SIDE" of the Galactic Empire

[@geetslys]

Check out the music channel: www.KZbin.com/c/RelaxJack Tons of beats you’d all enjoy

[@pyeitme508]

Cool

[@Propaganda9999]

For the empire

[@dragonborn7955]

Everything you said about the Clones is Legends material. We all know in Canon the Clones were casted out with no care. They were replaced during the 5th year of the Empire

[@JeanLucCaptain]

speaking of piracy, could you do a series on the most powerful pirates and their ships in SW?

[@alisterfolson]

*THE END JUSTIFIED THE MEANS OR, BETTER YET "IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE"*

[@muggy0236]

A clone trooper chilling after 66 is something I'd never think I'd see.

[@deltasquad8817]

Lol

[@Maxibon2007]

They missed a “trick” by not featuring an aged clone in the Solo movie being part of the academy board when they demoted him

[@UNSCrearadmiral]

He order the Calamari at the beach

[@olchapplobro5258]

it was a toxic relationship and I'm so proud he could cut it off

[@StonewallTitlow]

This comment did not age well.

[@syos1979]

Imagine being a worker at a clone retirement home; not only would you be dealing with understandably grumpy war veterans, but also with those who had no prior sense of a non-military career. Let alone with those who all shared the same face and vulnerability to certain diseases.

[@rogueleader7506]

Clones: Do you know how many of your kind I've killed? Droid: Beep boop?

[@geetslys]

You’d forget names easily

[@akumaking1]

Someone make that a comic

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Sounds like a nightmare

[@IcyFemboi]

66 likes

[@mitchellhayward6492]

I like to imagine that the clones had a holiday dedicated to them after the war, celebrating them; where retired clones don their old Phase 1 armour and uniforms, all neat and shiny, march in parades with a happy-sounding version of the "Jedi Temple March" playing, fireworks shows, and TIE Fighter flypasts, and they give speeches to the admiring crowds, and schoolkids give speeches of their own, and read poems and perform songs for the old clones.

[@Fattipotato79]

People read poems in a parade??

[@trashmammal9562]

Clone veteran day wooo

[@mitchellhayward6492]

@@Fattipotato79 Not during the actual march. I was thinking after the speeches. But yeah, I haven't always attended services, but I have attended services like that.

[@josephmontanaro2350]

I feel the armor could be a choice (some were deployed after the phase 2 switch and its generally said most clones liked phase 2 better as it was more comfortable (then you get weird clones like rex who litterly decided to combine parts of both sets (not just mix and match, his helmet is litterly welded together and made from a phase 1 and 2 helmet)), some clones served in different units during the war, some changed branches (some line troops were even promoted into clone commando and ARC teams, some infentry became pilots and vise versa) and I feel if they wre going to give them this ceremony they would let them dress in the uniform they perfered the most (think about if, if you started as a phase 1 shiny and ended the war in personalized phase 2 ARC trooper kit what uniform would you personally identify with (opwned ended question as either or could appeal depending on the individual)), I also assume they would keep a few squadrons of historic snub fighters to do flyovers in addition to modern TIEs kind of like modern military celibrations where it's a mix of different eras of gear, hell the idea of retired or active duty clones performing reenactments with old CIS and republic hardware and teaching kids about the capabilities of a V wing, showing them the weak points on a cutaway of a B2, AT-TE rides, hell I could even see them on planets with large military garrisons letting civilians try out custom simulations on the training grounds based on famous clone wars battles, the image of an old clone supervising civilians trying out a DC-15A on stun on a controlled range against specially programmed battledrouds is also really wholesome to me for some reason

[@mitchellhayward6492]

@@josephmontanaro2350 This parade would be pretty ceremonial. After the switch to Stormtrooper armour, I reckon the clones wouldn't still have their old sets, except maybe the retirees to display in their homes or whatever. And yeah, the pilots and such would all wear the gear respective to their branches and roles; but for a parade, I am kind of picturing standard-issue sets that never saw use. You know, the stuff that was made and stockpiled but never left the warehouse until this holiday was made. Most clones started off with shiny and new armour, without any customisation; which would look more impressive in a parade. Purely ceremonial. And only worn for the parade. And the standard Phase 1 armour stands out more from the stormtrooper armour everyone would be used to seeing than Phase 2, but I'm not ruling out Phase 2. It's a good point about the vehicles though.

[@Karlos1234ify]

Vader and Palpatine reduced homelessness and unemployment on Alderaan.

[@adamarndt2587]

You, sir, are a mad lad.

[@geetslys]

Crime rates also went to 0%

[@comradekenobi6908]

they also reduced pollution to 0% :D

[@cosmicentity1228]

I’m Dead💀💀💀😂😂😂

[@christianholzschuh6853]

Just imagine, from one day to the next: no more ill people.

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate states the entirety of the Empire was good.

[@Attmanwart]

I AM THE SENATE

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

The Senate not yet

[@Attmanwart]

Senator Lux Bonteri In the Name of The Galactic Senate of the Republic ...you are under arrest.

[@rickybennett370]

But they were cappin

[@averylee4302]

I love democracy.

[@yeetleskeet854]

Not a war crime if the Geneva convention doesn't exist lol

[@cosmicentity1228]

The Star Wars Legends & Canon have their own version of the Geneva convention, but it goes by a different name.

[@zeusadolphus1638]

@@cosmicentity1228 Yeah the Alderaan Accords 😂

[@orangvii3633]

@@zeusadolphus1638 Ironic

[@deathkorpstrooper8228]

You can't broke Alderaan Accords if Alderaan doesn't exist. Change my mind.

[@bluesnake1713]

What about Yavin?

[@randomstormtrooper3345]

Empire: * commits war crimes * Geetsly: * gets serious * Republic: * commits war crimes * Geetsly: *Just like the simulations!*

[@custodianguard749]

War crimes are the best crimes

[@nickstgelais3147]

Jedi apologist if you ask me 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ninjacat1216]

Nice

[@pancakecosmos6080]

Empire: kills millions of people after Blowing up a planet Wich they didn't like Geetsely: Puts on serious voice Rebels: Blow up two moon sized bases that also have millions of inocent pepole Geetsely: another victory!

[@turkepic3637]

@@pancakecosmos6080 Military , military base. It's perfectly legal to blow up.

[@stone9302]

Sounds like the Empire could of been decent, if the Emperor hadn't encouraged Sith like behavior in all levels of government.

[@bluerobin2982]

If palpatine wasnt a sith and thing ended the same a they did by revenge of the sith the empire probs would have not had to contest the galaxy with the rebels

[@geetslys]

Ehhh

[@TheRyujinLP]

A pure fascist version of the empire (rather then the Nazi like version that we got) could of a decent place to live. Many nations in the past would of considered a fascist regime a marked improvement over what they had. Now while I shouldn't have to point this out but given this is "current year" and if you don't explicitly denounce something it seems to be assumed that you must there for like it (and some times that's not even enough >.>) so I no way support fascism and down right loath it. It's just compared to other shit forms of totalitarian government (such as nazism, which is basically a more messed up version of fascism, and especially socialism/commumum) it's the lest shit. It's like having a bunch of bowls of ice cream and someone takes a shit in all of them and you look at the one that at lest doesn't have kernels of corn sticking out of it and going, "That's the lest shitty bowl." They're still all fucking shitty heh.

[@PanzerIsDead]

This is why I love Thrawn’s Empire of the Hand, because it takes the Empire, and gives it a capable, badass leader.

[@alldamnnamesaretaken]

@@TheRyujinLP socialism? Socialism is not communism and it's not authoritarian....

[@LoxyLight]

the empire brought work to the wookies on kashyyyk! truly inspiring

[@geetslys]

They raised the employment rate to 100%

[@kingnamor7777]

@@geetslys Fun fact: Some of those Wookies that were enslaved. Worked on the Death Star.

[@UGNAvalon]

And they served their Empire well! Pity the Rebel Scum has to kill those honest hard-workers along with the best our Empire has to offer!

[@kingnamor7777]

@@UGNAvalon They were innocent alien that did no harm and the Empire enslaved all them. In the legends and canon. Whether you like it or not, your Empire is the common denominator of the whole issue in the first place. You can't honestly think you are right when they caused all the wrongs in the first place!?

[@doggoking7905]

@@kingnamor7777 He was being sarcastic, as all "empire supporters" are.

[@apolloknight9521]

How about the overlooked BAD SIDE of the Rebels?

[@Le-eu4bf]

That would actually be interesting

[@glorifiedtoaster4368]

war crimes, war crimes everywhere!

[@iannorris1628]

It's not terrorism if they're the good guys

[@enchantedmg3415]

@@iannorris1628 same could be said about lSlS but no cuz they are terrorists just like the rebels. The empire did nothing wrong!

[@Macro105]

Rouge 1, executing weak links and assassinating scientists isn't cool

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

As an imperial, this brings joy to my heart.

[@MOFFEdits]

For the Empire.

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Long live the rebellion

[@facuokinggton7509]

@@senatorluxbonteri6065 *Laughs in Vong*

[@ramarblood7697]

@@facuokinggton7509 *Laughs in Jedi*

[@seekerofnothingness]

@@ramarblood7697 Laughs in Abeloth

[@coryaustin7379]

Star Wars fans: "We don't support genocide" Warhammer 40k fans: "This your first exterminatus?"

[@moth8775]

Warhammer is pretty boring

[@ajjr1129]

@@moth8775 Yes commissar this one right here....

[@rayhankazianga6817]

@@ajjr1129 he's kinda right though, one can get tired of people talking about it on videos which are not related to it at all. Plus, the grimdark gets tiring after a while..

[@CHRF-55457]

What you mean we don't support genocide?

[@kirorankezarparoja2670]

war zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz hammer

[@mgonza1350]

It's interesting how Anakin HATES slavery, but was a-ok with the Clone Troopers being slaves....

[@zeusadolphus1638]

Yeah pretty weird, but maybe he overlooked this for the sake of the Republic? 😂

[@aydinfowler1693]

Maybe his Clone Troopers were so badass they didn't care. Just Spitballing.

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

Anakin supposedly led the 501st so well that they stayed as his personal legion as Darth Vader.

[@mgonza1350]

@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen His many casualties say otherwise

[@azure9809]

@@aydinfowler1693 Yeah dude. The clones were sooooo badass that he just overlooked a deep seated moral wrong that he was deeply intimate with since birth. Sure.

[@captainrexofthe501st9]

The trains ran on time

[@MOFFEdits]

Yes, this made the empire function efficiently.

[@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff.]

@@MOFFEdits We stand here amidst YOUR achievements, Director.

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

The irony of this is that German logistics in WW2 were god-awful and easily one of their biggest failings. So it's kind of funny how one of the things evil empires always have going for them in Sci-Fi is excellent logistics and inexhaustible manpower when, historically, the only "evil empire" which has pulled these off was the Soviet Union - and even then their manpower was nowhere near inexhaustible nor were their logistics - both during or after the war - better than that of the US. So really, historically, it has been the empires of _good_ which have had great logistics and innumerable masses volunteering to fight the good fight.

[@kangkudos1225]

@@The_Crimson_Fucker You try moving a rail-car of Tiger Tanks accross three countries and a third of Russia on miss-matched rail-gauge, bridge load-limits, and eastern European built & maintained steel tracks!

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

@@kangkudos1225 Pff, easy, you try moving an entire army's worth of M4s across the Atlantic.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

In other words they did very well at the military side of governance but quite poorly at the civil side.

[@rastlonadjalin9455]

Republic was like 1800 america central planets good anyone else bad

[@Groundrunner100]

Empire: Commits war crimes, and makes life miserable. Rebels: Commit terrorism, disturbs the peace. Me: “WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?!?”

[@lastbaumstanding1802]

Star Wars Rebels is basically a series of war crimes committed by a 14 year old and his gang.

[@mickj9203]

The rebels didn't have to be rebels at all. The problems would have cut right in half

[@mandalortemaan7510]

Yeah the Rebels were focused on toppling the Empire and not what happened after and instead of helping the Empire's victims they destroyed the Empire. Also with the destruction of the Death Star killed millions who were stationed there so...

[@lordhamster9452]

Every one has different perception of “making a change” Sadly some are more ruthless than others so it could end anywhere from “We should do it without a bloodshed” To: “HAHAHA IMPIES GO BOOOM

[@davidsun3511]

It means every being in the galaxy is and eventually rotten to the core, therefore all living beings must cease to exist and be doomed to hell.

[@biged354-57]

the trains, running over people and crushing them to death, were on time.

[@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff.]

Perfection.

[@julianefaria7508]

I honestly gotta remember that

[@cody17th]

But, they were on time.

[@kirkcannon8079]

Favorite comment!

[@fallenknighttyler8695]

Glory to the Empire! But honestly if the Moffs and other leaders didn't compete with each other and actually worked together the Empire could of survived, the Imperial Civil War in Legends was possibly the biggest reason it fell so far. Edit: A game set in a Imperial Civil War would be awesome!

[@theblueengineer47792]

^^^^ this, if the moffs would calm their tits and stop using their power as a bludgeon to beat everyone under them with to steal their shit, I think the empire would have been hard to argue with, they solved a lot of problems that made life harder for the average joe of the galaxy, so the rebels would have been seen as assholes for trying to bring back a government that spent more time debating than actually doing anything

[@nickevans7116]

There are ones

[@kangkudos1225]

It didn't fall! Bob from accounting took power after reading Stalin's biography on rise from lowly secretary to dictator-for-life

[@ImpKnt80]

Tie Fighter? Star War: Empire at War + Thrawn’s Revenge or similar overhaul mod or even the vanilla games? Jedi Academy games? Star Wars: Rebellion? Any of the Tabletop RPGs? There are others but you just need to look around a bit more.

[@minutuarbong7804]

I could say the same thing how the good of the Jedi is overlooked recently

[@flynnwhimster5371]

what do mean? They're the main reason everyone in the audience is willing to side with the Republic and the Rebels.

[@oldunclesucio6152]

I mean historically the republic was just as crappy as the empire but they smiled instead of beating you. Idk prolly be on the Imp side

[@Jfk2Mr]

Which Republic and which Empire? If you had Rome in mind, then beating would be more popular during later stages of the Republic

[@flynnwhimster5371]

Or you could wait until the rebellion won, and run for Senator in the New Republic to make things right before it goes wrong.

[@TheLiamster]

The Empire is my favorite faction in all of Star Wars.

[@derimik15]

Long live the Empire Also, loving the Battlefront 1 style intro

[@jameschristensen1658]

it’s part of why i loved the latest mandalorian episode, it showed all those troops in a different light

[@gamingmoth4542]

The Empire is my favorite faction because I like how cool their equipment looks. I’ve got nothing more to say.

[@oom-3262]

The guy on the left on the thumbnail looks like lord Farquaad

[@akumaking1]

The biggest problem was that the negatives outweighed any positives.

[@skippingstep1515]

Here we are debating whether the Empire was "good" or "evil"... ...but what about the droid attack on the Wookiees?

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

It’s a system we can’t afford to lose

[@tiziankempe4890]

Good relations to the Wookies, I have

[@kangkudos1225]

If only the wookies had learned English

[@kamikazesenpai21]

What about the clone attacks on the Umbarans, huh! Checkmate

[@kaidorade1317]

Thanks for the video! It’s great to see some of the positive done by the Empire. Don’t forget: not all Imperials were Tarkins. Some Imperials were good folk who actually believed in the “good” of the Empire.

[@flynnwhimster5371]

Same with the Republic and the Seperatists.

[@zurrskirata1321]

Uhmm, good video, but what I found annoying was making sure we understand that you don't defend the Empire. I mean, it's fictional universe anways, plus, claiming the Empire was that bad is claiming all it's citizen including whole Corusctant was that bad.

[@theblueengineer47792]

sadly we live in the day and age where you're not allowed to like things like the empire or else you worship the third Reich, liking things in spite of them being evil just means you're evil now and people will destroy your life over your opinions on a fictional empire in a fictional universe because they think that's what nazis are now

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

If you ask me Disney canon New Republic seem much worse than the Empire.

[@aidanquiett668]

@@theblueengineer47792 The worst part is that we are supposed to blindly support the republic and hate the empire, when the republic was both arguably as evil as the empire in different ways on top of also not even functioning as a government. For the average person in the empire, life was much better then the republic until the rebels destroyed the best government you ever had and replaced it with an even worse republic before being replaced with a more evil empire

[@flynnwhimster5371]

@@theblueengineer47792 not quite, our world is broken and full of political villains, so such opinions like on this video don't come as a surprise. There are a lot of similarities between the GE and the GR and many Earth governments, and most aren't pretty. This is an age in which everyone is merely confused. about what's right and what's wrong. People are broken, but their not ignorant or blind to change. The internet has helped us see different opinions and dark truths, that made us grow and improve ourselves and society as we speak.

[@condedooku9750]

@@aidanquiett668 If you say things like that, do not complain when people call you a fascist, you are making things up to justify that a faction based on Nazi Germany and American Imperialism is better than a Democracy with corruption problems, you are saying the same rubbish that they say .

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Fun fact: the good guys in Star Wars always have astromechs on their starfighters

[@rootintootinnewton]

GoOd GuYs

[@UGNAvalon]

“War’s over, _Imp.”_

[@Tyr0ne30]

@@UGNAvalon "no u"

[@violetlight1548]

Because they need droid help to actually fly. TIE pilots, on the other hand ... :P

[@flynnwhimster5371]

yeah, there's still debate on the Jedi. Although their the main reason why we all decided to stay on the Republic's and Rebel's side, despite their obvious flaws.

[@tannernewbanks5961]

Also, before it was retconned, Outbound Flight indicates that one of the reasons Palpatine is so dead set on pumping tons of funds into his military structure (in addition to mostly focusing on the crafting of Star Destroyers, each over a kilometer long, which he did in spite of the fact that such ships were left largely vulnerable to the seemingly one mainstream and actually threatening enemy within his Empire, the rebel’s) is because he had an inkling of Knowledge pertaining to the Yuuzhan Vong, mostly granted by the Chiss ascendency (this is probably why he focused on large capital ship killers like Star Destroyers, which would have seemed perfect for fighting the massive threats hidden in the Unknown Regions). If Outbound Flight wasn’t retconned, and if indeed most Legends and Fore-Disney material was still at least somewhat canon, the Empire would be more like an attempt to prevent wholesale annihilation on a Galactic level . The Yuuzhan Vong War, which was between the New Republic and the Yuuzhan Vong, proved this to be the case, considering how devastating the Outsiders were. It would have been cool if we could have seen more to this side of the Empire, where it’s oh-so-evil rulers were actually focused on beating a race against time, knowing that if the Empire controlled Galaxy was in any way not united and not prepared for full scale militarization before the Yuuzhan Vong invaded, they would all be wiped out, which would have, in turn, explained why the Empire took the actions it did. After all, the prequels showed just how well Palpatine could control and manipulate the galaxy as a whole, so it’s a bit odd that something like the using of slaves or the using of what amounted to Gulags would even happen, as it’s just bad press. I think that it just makes more sense that the Empire was really just rushing to beat the Yuuzhan Vong, rather than them just being plain evil. Hell, Palpatine had Darth Plagueis’s teachings on how to preserve and extend his life, so he, with no term limits to be worried about, would have all the actual time in the world to build Death Stars, create complacency within the Empire, and forge the greatest apprentice he could, IF he wasn’t on some other deadline, that deadline being provided via Outbound Flight. I mean, wouldn’t it be so much cooler if, in the prequels, the Yuuzhan Vong came through and started recking shit, only for the First Order to come in with all their super powerful ships and tech, bearing the Empires sigil, instead of the bullshit we actually got? There would have been an actual reason for people to accept the First Orders rule, and to see them as saviors and messiahs, remnants of the Empire which would have stopped the Yuuzhan Vong, and not the Rebellion turned Alliance turned New Republic that had failed to stop the Outsiders from reaping a massive toll on the Galaxy. Would have been like, Clone Wars Level of Civil War, with each side actually being likable. Idk, just the idea that the Empire could have actually been set in place to defend against some massive threat, a threat which could have provided an epic backdrop for the Sequels, and was retconned suddenly to match the Disney narrative is annoying. The Empire could have been so much cooler.

[@janbogar1250]

The problem with this theory is that all you need to do to unite everyone against a common enemy is to just tell them about it. There is no need for elaborate plots to take over the universe. Plenty real world examples, it works so well that propagandists love to make up imaginary enemies if they don't have the real ones :)

[@tannernewbanks5961]

@@janbogar1250 Yes. True. But (without taking into consideration Disney retconning, only because I don’t know enough about the changes made) Palpatine DID know of the ‘Vong. Thrawn had told him all about the little buggers. And Thrawn was with the Empire for a while. Long enough before the rebellion got out of control. Honestly, I’m just not unsure that the information wasn’t released in-universe because Ol’ George Lucas hadn’t thought about it yet. In fact, I’m now sure that that IS the case. Your point makes too much sense for it to be just about anything else. The imperials loved their propaganda machine, and this WOULD have been perfect for it. Truthfully, the only reason I came up with the theory of WHY the Empire was so fixated on making big, unnecessarily powerful and obvious ships was because the vessels themselves had no place going up against the Empires single biggest enemies at the time, which were the rebel’s. I’ve heard that it was all about the fear factor, but that still doesn’t explain the number of above-capital ship grade vessels being pushed into service. The ratio of Capital vessels to Support or Escort vessels was very unusual. And even after the rebel’s became a major threat, the Empire still insisted on larger and more powerful ships, that wouldn’t at all match the rebel’s strengths. It’s weird too, because Secutor’s were developed in 19BBY, and were massive Carriers, capable of just overwhelming everyone. Why didn’t the Empire create more of these? The TIE and it’s crew were meant to be expendable, only very powerful in mass, so why not, If creating larger and larger ships, focus on Carrier designs, to be the ultimate deterrent to the rebel’s? Everything about the Empires military structure yells “We’re going to War against another SuperPower”. And to expand more on my original point, the ‘Vong aside, the Empire was planning, both in Canon (I think?) and non-Canon, to push and expand into the Unknown Regions. If they expected enemies like Thrawn and his people spoke of to be there, I imagine they would put a focus of being able to combat that threat. Thrawn had a LOT of leeway with the Emperor, after all.

[@valiant545]

The Empire was fairly young, most new governments have trouble for some time and then begin to greatly improve past that point. With say, the death of palpatine and sith politics over time, the situation more than likely would have vastly improved. It seems the military idealism that made the Empire so successful only stopped when it came to the politicians and the Emperor, and those politicians were practically encouraged to act that way because of palpatine. Over time should the rebellion have failed, there is a chance that the Empire could have vastly improved had it been given more time to live. Or, gotten worse. It can go either way.

[@flynnwhimster5371]

There are a few videos that suggest that Palpatine deliberately let the Empire fall

[@AngelicKitsune_]

I love how the beginning is like "just for the record, we do not support the Empire"

[@shadowcloudspher]

@Geetsly's Do a Mudhorn (The Mandalorian) vs. Reek (Star Wars Attack Of The Clones) video. Star Wars creature battle.

[@BozheTsaryaKhrani]

Lets get this man a top comment

[@TannerThePuppyGamer]

and people forget that countries in our world did some of the things the empire is doing but on a lesser scale cause were on one planet but we did do those things even a few of the "good" countries did it at a point in time

[@TheAsj97]

The two WWII nukes killed a vastly larger percent of the world's population than the Death Star did to the galactic population.

[@flynnwhimster5371]

do not despair, there's chance they could change if we put our faith in international collaboration and compromising

[@twohorsesinamancostume7606]

One thing you forgot to mention is the constant wars and genocides committed by galactic neighbors under the Republic. There were species out there that HATED each other and would like nothing more than to wipe out the other. The Empire put a stop to that.

[@randomcenturion7264]

First, "HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!" Second, yes this is an often overlooked aspect of The Empire that The Republic was comprised of different corporations, dictatorships and outright crime syndicates that HATED each other and could do little more than "Write a letter telling you how angry we are" when they started killing each other. The Empire? Park a Star Destroyer over the planets capital or send a Legion of Stormtroopers to "Persuade" them to knock it off. Simple and effective. And in Legends, this was a problem that The New Republic had to deal with when the Empire lost power and became the Imperial Remnant. A lot of one-time allies were at each others throats over old grudges and I think the Bothans were a particular pain in the ass to people trying to get things working again.

[@Dammlee]

WOW i havent heard the sound of the OG Battlefront loadingscreen since YEARS! thats something new, what a nice intro, love it!

[@BozheTsaryaKhrani]

Since the rebels committed crimes that technically makes them villains?

[@anthonyortiz3142]

Not everything was black and white in either faction.

[@BozheTsaryaKhrani]

Anthony Ortiz that is true for everything

[@plasmawarper5837]

Remember the rebels causing the destruction of Byss and Carida where they destroyed planets for simply having inperial allied civilians

[@BozheTsaryaKhrani]

Plasma Warper and everything saw gerera did

[@JayTheGam3r]

Plasma Warper Wut? The New republic didn’t have anything to do with that. Kyp got possessed by a Sith Lord who destroyed carida Byss was a sith strong hold where the entire population was devoted to Palestine. It wasn’t even intentionally destroyed, the eclipse rammed the galaxy gun which fired accidentally

[@bgcvetan]

Yes imperial security bureau officer, here's the rebel.

[@paulmetzgar2604]

With the Empire, you had 1 planetary governor, 1 sector governor, 1 oversector governor, and the emperor. You had a maximum of 4 potential levels of corruption and oppression. Old and new republic had countless close to home and far away sources of corruption and oppression. I will stick with the system with the fewest sources of oppression. Odds are far greater of prosperity and enjoyment of life than the other one.

[@TYSLYS]

Opening Slide LV - "General Veers" GV - "Yes Lord Vader?" LV - "Commence the cavity search" GV - "Yes Lord Vader"

[@davidsdoinit]

Geetsly's: The clones were treated better Me: did DID HE JUST CALL THEM CLONES

[@matthewdragan5780]

honestly i like the empire more then the rebellion but i hate the entire timeline in general.

[@derekthedmeister4452]

Star wars fans be like "I hate star wars"

[@syguy7153]

"Yo dudes, the empire is pretty chill, it be cool if you like joined or something." If only we knew.

[@lordhamster9452]

It is nice to see faction so irredeemable on the surface has quite some light on the inside. As all factions should have. Also: “you see Ivan, when you treat clones under empire you treat them better because of fear”

[@sethjenson8219]

1:00 looks like a reference to the u.s victory at iwo jima

[@moistheathen148]

Is that the Star Wars Battlefront (2004) loading screen intro?

[@evancromee2727]

I’d live under the Empire: I’d be a Storm Trooper

[@commandercody8085]

I was initially planning on retiring to scarif and spend the rest of my life in a tropical paradise, BUT THEY BLEW IT UP WTF!!!! But Naboo is a good option too. :))

[@emilv.3693]

I'd honestly better enjoy a snow/mountain world, because I like skiing Looking on the wookiepedia: I like the look of Krownest. It's a mountainous world with snow and evergreen forests governed by Mandalorians.

[@emilv.3693]

On second thought idk nevermind, it was visited by rebels during the civil war, Maybe instead I'd go to Nelvaan and live a quiet life that planet even has relatively snow free summers Wookiepedia might say it is frozen, but that was only during the clone wars because the techno union was doing experiments. Anakin Skywalker eliminated that freeze

[@commandercody8085]

@@emilv.3693 Haha Nice but skiing is not for me

[@huntclanhunt9697]

My headcanon is the 501st kept itself mostly clone, and the empire engineered a de aging system for them, explaining the Battlefront 2 clone narrator.

[@alisterfolson]

Also, (Canon?) The Emperor maybe knew about the Yuzhann Vong on the Outer Rim, and maybe was preparing to build the empire to combat them?

[@grindcoreninja6527]

He did know in Legends, it was the actual reason why he built the first two death stars.

[@matthewdragan5780]

The Empire took away all the fun.

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Republic is reorganized into empire: this is where the fun ends

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

Who else thinks Disney would make the Empire win if they weren’t a kids company And thinks that they are throwing their morals away Edit: And Disney is romanticizing the Empire

[@ashatrieu7244]

100%

[@nickevans7116]

Yeeeeh whyyy

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

@That Slicer chiefly all the times they make sure Palpatine’s forces kicked ass as much as possible and Squadrons makes The Empire seem right and they are the good sized and The New Republic is a horrifying force.

[@zackdawgz8398]

There are people on both sides that’s what they are trying to show before Disney bought it there were legend stories that tried to do the same thing

[@zackdawgz8398]

Also did you really play squadrons because to me it seemed like they were just a nation in war

[@floricel_112]

I love how every single "good" thing on this list wasn't exactly good and had a dark catch to it

[@PanzerIsDead]

I am, and forever will be, a die-hard Imperial.

[@rootin222]

It created decent social programs and nation building to planets willing to take part in its building Vardos ,Blyss, and other planets are perfect examples of this

[@diegomarquez4340]

I remember reading this one comment that labeled the Rebellion as nothing but terrorists when they blew up the first Death Star and killing millions of Imperial troops, support and maintenance staff... Completely disregarding the fact that the sole purpose of that station was to BLOW UP INHABITED PLANETS

[@Toramai-pi8wx]

Yeah I don’t get that either. They always bring up how the Death Star had various people on it. And completely ignore the fact that this was a weapon made to destroy planets and everyone on board would’ve been well aware of this fact. Now saw that I get is ironic but some of the others I’m not so sure that’s ironic that are actually earnestly arguing that the fascist genocidal empire that is modeled more or less after the Nazis and imperialism is a good thing.

[@condedooku9750]

@@Toramai-pi8wx The same happens in the Warhammer 40k fandom, people say that the Imperium is good when this faction literally has a policy of genocide against all the xenos of the Galaxy, they also purge all the mutants, they burn the babies that are born with deformities , they enslave their own population sometimes for absurd reasons to have slave labor to use and the living conditions on their planets are so bad that people voluntarily join cults that worship demons and space monsters... Because they prefer anything rather than live under the Imperium.

[@cltst187]

6:04 oh lol, that's a screenshot from Space Engineers. Man I love that game!

[@articusramos808]

I really, really REALLLY need to stop reading comments on star wars that weigh in on the lore of star wars politics and government. Nearly lost some friends too. Too bad I have much to enjoy once I seen both sides. Appthy is death, worse than death. At least a rotti corpse feeds the beasts and insects.

[@ramarblood7697]

Star Wars politics is as sensitive of a subject as real life politics.

[@articusramos808]

@@ramarblood7697 yet more entertaining...

[@flynnwhimster5371]

As a self-proclaimed idealist who wants to see the good things in life and believe that the Jedi Code is the answer to everything, I sympathize with you, brother.

[@Mr_D_The_1st]

6:01 look at that,the aquitens light cruiser riding with the big boys

[@Ze_Medic]

I would rather live under the rule of the Empire than the Republic. At least you know your enemies during the Imperial's oppression

[@violetlight1548]

Good side of the Empire: Grand Admiral Thrawn. Enough said.

[@chaseroland6086]

6:10 I see you use a photo of imperial ships in space engineers

[@hakon5473]

Honestly i would join The Imperial Navy in hopes that i would be located or manage to get withing Thrawns fleet or ship as i think that is the best chance at surviving the SW galaxy at all

[@n3onkatman]

6:05 YO MY MANS USED SPACE ENGINEERS?!?

[@inquisitorgarza312]

No matter how good the Galactic Empire in protecting its citizens, or in creating several jobs in the military sector, it doesn’t excuse that their very Emperor was the cause that led to the Clone Wars and created more problems that will harm the Empire. The Galactic Empire allowed more corruption within itself, and crime was extremely rampant than one would’ve expected from a militaristic Empire. There was several super weapons programs that brought economic hardship to the Galactic Market, and several of these super weapons were either destroyed or even stolen. Then there was the needless cruelty to several Imperial citizens for perceived treachery to the Empire, and which in turn created several Rebel Cells that come to destroy the Empire. There were too many problems caused by the Galactic Empire, and there was no doubt that several Imperial Citizens who weren’t in the imperial military or politics secretly cheer for the fall of the empire.

[@duescaymania2940]

While the empire wasn’t perfect they were a better solution for the galaxy. Crime wasn’t actually as rampant as you claim because they made deals with syndicates and cartels. While crime still occurred it was at a decreased rate because neither wanted a fight. As well Palpatine may have set up the start of the clone wars but he never started it. The Jedi did. If they were truly peacekeepers they would have sided with the CIS as long as they weren’t extremely violent. Their military sector was extremely well funded yes but the galactic economy flourished under their reign and was only crippled by the rebellion. Again I’m not saying their perfect just that they’re better than the terrorists who would often do anything to get rid of imperials which as I mentioned collapsed the galactic economy, resulted in more deaths than the empire caused, created untold destruction, and allowed criminals to run rampant through the galaxy especially after they demilitarized

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Dues Caymania Many of the problems that the Galactic Empire face were inevitably created by Palpatine when he created the Clone Wars.

[@aydinfowler1693]

Agreed. Oh you should see this cool video by Jim Huss ENT called "The Empire was right". Just a suggestion.

[@duescaymania2940]

Inquisitor Garza while true the empire rose to the challenge and did a fairly decent job at it

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Dues Caymania And fail when fighting a small rebellion.

[@generaltk-5178]

The Emperor and the entire Empire thanks you the Rebellion or the “Rebel Alliance” as some call them make us seem 100% bad when we’re only like 89% bad 👍

[@SirDinzhi]

2:31 yeahhh right lmao

[@ManOfTheWeek596]

The Empire improves every system it touches. By any metric: safety, prosperity, trade opportunity, peace. Compare imperial rule to what is happening now. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution?

[@violetlight1548]

I never understood why strip-mining habitable planets was even considered for space-faring civilisations in sci fi. Asteroid mining would provide more than enough metals and would be a *lot* easier. But yeah, the piracy thing was understated, IMO. Did you notice that slavery on Tatooine is not mentioned by Luke's time? Or at least we don't see it. There were probably an equal amount of Rim worlds that benefited from the Empire then suffered from it. Also, in Legends, it's implied that the Death Star could have been a weapon against the Yuuzhan Vong. Would have been cool to see its superlaser deployed against their worldships, if the rebel terrorists hadn't screwed that up.

[@T3CHPR135T]

People be like "wah wah genosians" bro fuck the bugs! I'm doing my part!

[@indianajones4321]

212th Trooper is like “ah vacation time”

[@lumethecrow2632]

If I were on the upper levels of Coruscant, I'd definitely live under the Empire

[@Waterisdaway]

Can u make a video on y the empire didn’t use droids even after seeing how effective they were in the clone wars

[@JCDentonCZ]

The real question is, even without Palpatine and Plagueis' scheming, would the Republic have survived - not just in the long term but the mid-term. The Clone Wars show many cases and examples that showed that things were very bad, the war simply brought it to the forefront, the worlds under attack finally were able to petition successfully. I imagine the Senate being Byzantean in its corruption.

[@Charlie94781]

Even without Sith machinations the corruption in the republic senate was a blight on the bloated body of government

[@Kingblizzardyoutubeboss]

The empire had a better system but the leadership of palpatine led the empire and the use of resources were spread thin The stormtroopers were treated good as well

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

I'm not sorry when I say FOR THE EMPIRE!

[@twigggins1244]

That intro zoom sound takes me back

[@seananglim5962]

I like how u had a disclaimer at the start for a fictional empire

[@Andrew-ls5ks]

I can confirm, now what do I say again? Oh yeah For The Empire!

[@jeremybertz796]

Fun Fact: The Empire also had a wildlife reservation on Mon Cala.

[@RealAugustusAutumn]

All that was ever focused on was the bad of the Empire, but you never see the implied good that it did, the order that it brought to a chaotic and war-torn galaxy. Not only was there deep political division, but the galaxy under the Republic was deeply, deeply saturated with crime Syndicates, corruption, etc. You also never hear about the genocides committed by the rebels, or the billions, possibly trillions, of beings that were enslaved, murdered, or starved to death after the Empire fell.

[@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon]

Tam in Star Wars Resistance mentioned how her grandfather got a job thanks to the empire when he couldn't find work anywhere else. Yeager tells her that the empire took advantage of the venerable and he wasn't wrong about this either.

[@jonhstonk7998]

i always saw the empire as the good guys: meritocratic,centralized,strong,militaristic,authoritarian goverment? sign me up!

[@teeja.meister8708]

Not to mention lowering the gas prices on bespin.

[@sydneysmith1521]

You omitted one issue from your video that would have given a definitive answer to the major question. Which faction did a better job of feeding the people?

[@r6_ok977]

We're good, you've heard it here first, by THE emperor Palpatine

[@Orto-jj2di]

Empire just witha better ruler at top like Padme or anyone with right conditions. Also bc you can expect dange from empire and won't feel as betrayed as did Jabiim people long ago

[@Currently_Nooby]

The empire so I could enlist and travel the galaxy as a Navel Officer Lieutenant or Captain preferably.

[@Currently_Nooby]

Something the republic can’t offer and you will most likely always stay on your planet your whole life unless you enlist or your rich and you can’t enlist in the republic normally and with the empire it’s more easy.

[@jerricho11]

The comment at the end of the video sums up my question. How can the Empire be considered "better for the clones" if they were responsible for shutting off their humanity? Yes, the Republic treated them badly but you can argue it was largely done because of Palpatine, it was designed by the future Empire, so is it really the fault of the Republic? Yes but also no. If Palpatine weren't playing both sides, the clones probably would have been treated as people. That said, we'll never really know for sure. But the idea that the clones wanted to continue to kill and hunt Jedi is so wrong to me. I recognize not all Jedi were nice to the clones (Krell) but the clones had to know good Jedi like Obi-wan were still missing. They knew they could find Ahsoka and have to kill her in any mission. The clones killed younglings, padawans/shiny Jedi. If they had any humanity left, more would have left. But with the chips in play, they were never given that real option. Perhaps treating the retired clones better after war was really about keeping them from bucking the system? If the clones were able to defy the chip just enough to opt for retirement, then maybe there was a risk of large amounts of clones taking it the next step further and rebelling completely? Perhaps retirement was a way of keeping them in line? Otherwise, the empire could lose whole battalions just in response to a morally gray mission. Just a thought.

[@warcraftdude13]

Most who resisted felt the harshest penalties. Order was one of the main concepts of the empire. So the systems that became a resourceful part of the economy would be protected with garrison s which caused development on worlds.

[@d.a.g.c961]

Fun fact: the consume of meat in the spanish vicerroys in the Américas decreased when they got their independice from the empire.

[@duescaymania2940]

The empire was the better side of the galaxy, they planned long term for the galaxy while the pitiful rebels were only focused on being terrorists. Long live the empire!

[@MOFFEdits]

Long live the empire!

[@plasmawarper5837]

Empire did nithing wrong! Thanks to rebels the black sun and other criminal scum were allowed to go free.

[@ONYXG9000]

Yeetsly lol Luv ur vids bud

[@tyshingleton7005]

Ah, yes. The TRUTH about the Empire 😂

[@thunder6646]

still would go for empire of the them rebels any day.

[@JeffrevinYT]

republic: *WAR CRIMES.* empire: ey they p chill!

[@teeja.meister8708]

AND they increased employment on kashyyyk.

[@hibiki28]

There wasnt a clone bar? How they buy drinks without getting pay by the republic?