The Truth About Waterproof's

[@Tom-wd5bs]

. I walk in Yorkshire where it rains alot so I needed a waterproof jacket. I did weeks of research on waterproofs prior to buying and 2 jackets made the shortlist ., The Paramo Parajo (350 quid)and The Mountain Equipment Lhotse (400 quid) I wanted something that would stop the rain , I didnt want the tech that pumps the water out , I was "this " close to getting the Paramo but last minute decided on the Lhotse and am glad I did. When it chucks it down I put the Lhotse on and walk slow , if it gets ridiculous I set a tarp up and wait. In 2 years I have not got wet once whilst wearing the Lhotse , it was described as " bombproof " and I think it really is. 100% you get what you pay for ,, in time I would like to experiment with an oilskin , or a Paramo , yes they are expensive but my hobby keeps me fit , its worth it in my mind - ive got my moneys worth from the Lhotse and its still going strong and looks brand new. btw you wernt rambling at all , this is a subject you could talk for 3 -4hrs on and still not cover everything about waterproofs.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@Tom-wd5bs cheers buddy, great comment

[@dannyknight8082]

I have the lhotse as well and love it. I take exactky the same approach as you. 👍🏻

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@dannyknight8082 excellent stuff

[@Sultan_Of_Swiss]

Love the video! I wish we had more foreign milsurp in the States because that alpine jacket looks sick! Would love to see a video with your take on when/how to wear warming layers while out in the field, different warming layer options based on the environment, etc. One thing that was drilled into my brain from the military was to not put on an additional warming layers until you absolutely need to. That always stuck out to me as an odd practice. Cheers!

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Be bold start cold I always heard

[@goodredman]

It’s definitely philosophy of use “POU” - No one jacket is perfect in all situations. That’s why you have several of them. Pick the right tool to do the job whether dependent. You gave some great information. Not enough people talk about how you’ve got a care for your jacket cleaning it properly in a sport wash when required. Then reactivating or recoating with a new durable water repellent treatment. Layering is very important as well. Adding layers and shedding layers properly. Ventilation for your body is key. Jackets with pit zips can be useful. Don’t allow your body to overheat in a cold climate. When you sweat then shed those layers, your sweat will freeze. You briefly mentioned about storing your jacket. A good example is if you have a down jacket or sleeping bag you don’t want to store it in the compression bag or stuffed in the bottom of your pack. The down feathers will lose their loft and clump up minimizing effectiveness when you need them to insulate. Great information! Your ramblings were reasonable as they contained golden nuggets of thoughtful insight. Another thought for those buying used military surplus such as Gore-Tex. Be prepared to clean and treat with a DWR coating.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@goodredman agreed, cheers buddy , great comment

[@goodredman]

Cheers right back at you! Also, great job on pronouncing Varusteleka. Even though really like the way you used to say it. Remember, “VarustaLickHer” lol I hardly know her. 😉👍

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@goodredman lololo

[@StevenDavidson-y1p]

The best waterproof jacket you can get is a waxed jacket,if it’s well maintained it’s the best in my opinion

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Great jackets if your not moving to fast

[@noneoftheabove3278]

I like all my goretex stuff but sometimes I'll bring a brolly as well just incase I get too warm. I'm a fucking rebel in that regard!

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@noneoftheabove3278 I did a two day walk with a group of students once, lashed non stop and the only dry one was the lad with the brolly

[@ajb7332]

I demand more rambling! Which jacket is best for what situation? Which jacket do you prefer when?

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

I'll get on it

[@Punkinbushcraft]

Gold -- what 😂 good video pal enjoyed that makes perfect sense 👍🏻

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Cheers buddy

[@davidherbert415]

When the DWR wears off the jacket wets out and no longer beads and this will affect the breathability and cause you to sweat...

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Cheers buddy

[@budwilliams6590]

Stihl Frosty.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Good man Bud

[@thesmallwoodlot433]

Most people don’t realize that there is a difference between waterproof and water resistant, if a jacket is one hundred percent waterproof then you will sweat your brains out! So a good high quality water resistant jacket is better! It is just like your sleeping bags and properly dressing for sleep out in the field, when I was in the service, men would sleep in their clothes that they either just changed into, or were wearing all day, and then complain about being cold all night! So what I always did was before bedding down at night, I stripped down to a pair of gym shorts and tee shirt, then placed my new clothes in the side of my sleeping bag wrapped in plastic bag and used them as my overnight pillows or comfort padding. This way while they were not pressed, they would have some temperature from the nights sleep , and still be dry without moisture from sweat, and i wouldn’t be cold in the morning like everyone else , except for the few minutes of getting dressed for the day! So yes know you gear and your environment and what is going to possibly come your way weather wise! Snow suits, sleeping bags, tents, and rain gear, all differ between cost, manufacture and intended use and temperatures! I was active in the Marines during Hurricane Floyd in 1999, doing a survival training exercise, out of 35 people I was the only one who was dry when I stepped out of my shelter, and several men lost some gear to tidal water but all of my stuff was safe after the first night! So you tell me how I kept my 70lb pack dry, and secure, while I slept like a baby in the middle of the woods during a major storm… even my C/O was impressed!

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Exactly pat

[@steverusso177]

Strong case for the military poncho. Stay dry and breathable. As much as is possible.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Agreed

[@craigraeside5706]

Great video Wally and sound advice about looking after your gear and managing expectations. I live outdoors all year round and rely on my different jackets for different tasks. There's no one size fits all. I'm sitting under my waxed cotton canvas tarp, 3 degrees C in my Norwegian Arcticnorth goose down luxury. 300 pounds in the sale about 13 years ago. Not waterproof in any way but not designed to be. Planning to make a waxed cotton canvas medieval style hoodie which covers the shoulders as a cover in case I get caught out in the open. My go to for Irish and Scottish rain is my old British Army goretex shell. 25 years old but lightly used and well looked after. I'm thinking of buying my first waxed jacket and looking at Hoggs of Fife. Would be good to hear your thoughts on waxed jackets? 😊🙏

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Waxed is something I have very little knowledge of I'm afraid, hard to beat a down jacket though

[@michaelkeller5008]

where did you get that austrian jacket?

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@michaelkeller5008 a gift from a subscriber

[@michaelkeller5008]

@@RedBranchBushcraft NICE

[@GMan-Pierce]

What are your thoughts on Arcteryx?

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

I've never tried their stuff, but I hear good things

[@markhaywood7307]

A plastic bag is 100% waterproof. Gore Tex-Stuff, is Waterproof when it is allowed to breath. When Goretex is covered by water - it rains inside, that's the reason to move- to shed the water.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@markhaywood7307 cheers buddy

[@patrickculleton9939]

Someone put it to me this way. Goretex (and the like) regarding breathability, works on 'moisture gradient'. It is porous but not intelligent. If you are wearing an item, jacket, trouser, boot and the moisture around your body is higher than outside, the membrane does its job. However, if it's a damp day and you're not producing enough moisture (perspiration, body heat), the moisture will come IN on you and make you feel damp and cold - the moisture gradient has reversed.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Cool

[@BourneOutside]

Sage advice as always! Out of all them jackets though,,, I bet none of the companies hanging from that fence throws as many 60% off emails bombarding the email inbox as Baerskin does. My goodness, they are a PITA!!! Unsubscribing from the "Last Chance" BS 🙄 Not a dig at you whatsoever 😉👍🏼

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Lol

[@learn2rideVIDEOS]

Forces uniform and kit have the Austrian alpine at 27 quid. Bargain!

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@@learn2rideVIDEOS man that's great, have you a link

[@learn2rideVIDEOS]

@RedBranchBushcraft Unfortunately, I don't think youtube allows links, but if you go to the forces uniform and kit site, you'll see it there. Bought most of my stuff on there. Grade A, sometimes unissued kit at a fraction of the price.

[@learn2rideVIDEOS]

@@RedBranchBushcraft google it just. Works for me! 👍

[@learn2rideVIDEOS]

@@RedBranchBushcraft tried to post four or five times. Gave up.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@learn2rideVIDEOS cheers buddy , I'll have a look on the computer tomorrow

[@stevemcdermott6199]

Of its breathable it's not waterproof, if it's waterproof it's not breathable. I like a gortex jacket but I'm under no illusion I'm going to be waterproof all day. But I hate gortex in boots.. uuugghhh just no

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Lol, you love goretex boots

[@stevemcdermott6199]

​@RedBranchBushcraft the last time I wore gortex boots they got saturated and didn't dry out for weeks. They were so uncomfortable while they were sodden. But then, that's hiking all day, tipping around base camp would be a different story. Horses for corses.

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

@stevemcdermott6199 good man