The TRUTH About Wilt Chamberlain's 50 PPG Season!

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[@rustybuckets]

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[@pounce7053]

Y u still advertising the scam guy? I respect getting money, but the dudes a scam.

[@shaunbrooks7156]

Lol, you’re funny, 100 is the most points ever scored, period, wilt is the second best player all time after lebron

[@petiteexplication6249]

In this video you were hating more than usual you have to add into account that in the 60's every team was experimenting the way of winning those were the beginning of real basketball not like today when every team can easily learn from past teams mistake

[@codathlete3644]

SHAUN BROOKS Ok

[@jackdamenace13]

Rusty Buckets Can you do a video on the 1990 NBA MVP race or the 1999 MVP race? I’ve seen a lot of arguments for Barkley over Magic in 1990 and Alonzo over the Mailman in 1999.

[@SlashNoContacts]

Rusty: “Players shouldn’t play too many minutes, it’s unhealthy” Thibs: “Well yes, but actually no”

[@super.cool.91]

YeBoiSlash Luol Deng played 38 mins a game for like 5 straight seasons lmfao

[@AHMAD-2324]

@@super.cool.91 Which is exactly why at the age of 35 he's no longer in the NBA.

[@nicholasrose4448]

🤣🤣 Lol Thibs has a problem.

[@arieltheordore3610]

New York please don’t hire him

[@super.cool.91]

AHMAD2423 they really tried to kill him lol i love deng tho

[@44anml226]

There are only 11 times when the scoring champ won the chip in the same season, 5 players did it once and the the other 6 chips were all from MJ

[@unlockedaccount]

GOAT shows how he could get his points without disrupting the flow of the offence

[@spybro3264]

I heard this from jxmy on his Jordan facts I’m pretty sure

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

Did George Mikan die? Bc he did it twice

[@44anml226]

Michael Jor1-9an there is a few other players who also did it once but it shows how impactful mj was. It is rare for something like this to occur but mj did it every year he won a chip

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

@@44anml226 my point was that Mike isn't the only guy to do it multiple times

[@im_waffles2920]

I’m ready to see the most triggered comments ever.

[@samhartje723]

@The Ultimate hehe

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@The Ultimate In 1968 (3-1 lead) and 1969 (3-2 lead) alone, Wilt was 0-5 vs OLD Bill Russell in closeout games. That's the most "dominant" player in history?

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

Wilt apologists really are something. All time great? Yes but massively overrated when compared to Bill Russell. The amount of back bending needed to justify Wilts lack of results vs Russell is telling.

[@archiegabiazon]

Every achievement done by a legendary player: Rusty: that shit's overrated Btw. Good content, bro. Hoping to see more of this

[@user-bm9cv9vn2k]

It is what it is

[@dbboy8760]

The thinking basketball dude wrote an amazing book chapter on this

[@dbboy8760]

Andrew Evans I had to stop watching him cause all his videos were 3 minute talking points that are stretched to 10 minutes

[@martinthegiraffe7924]

@@dbboy8760 if you're still interested, he's got hour long podcasts where he goes much deeper into the subjects he's trying to explore. Probably the best basketball analytical content I've ever listened to

[@dbboy8760]

Andrew Evans I know yea but dom and low and a few others have mentioned quality

[@thomasbrady3827]

@@dbboy8760 he has multiple videos where he is just under 10 minutes so he couldn’t place mid roll adds idk what ur point is

[@starwarsnewsandmemes8289]

Wilt would have a much stronger GOAT case if he played his entire prime like he did in 67

[@carlitojaunito2269]

Star Wars News and Memes that’s physically impossible

[@rustybuckets]

no it isn't tf lol

[@juliothom2408]

Rusty Buckets, You’re right. Wilt played like Bill Russell (arguably a better version of Bill Russell) that year. When Wilt won his last title in LA (not Googling, so I may be a bit off in numbers) he scored about 12 a game on around 70% shooting and grabbing a crazy amount of boards. If Wilt was a career 20/20/5 guy on crazy efficiency, he’d have won more. Bill was a career 15/22/4 guy and won a ton. The proof is right there.

[@HartleysRaspberry]

Julio Thom the proof is bill had 8 hall of famers wilts teams werent as good he was told to score so he did he knew he couldnt win but he scored he lead the league in assists when he wanted to wilt the best C of all time no cap

[@juliothom2408]

AS 10, I won’t disagree that Wilt was a better athlete than Bill. Which is saying something, because Bill was an Olympic athlete. But Wilt had teams that were just as stacked as the C’s in the middle of his career. He had teams with multiple HOF guys on it too. Bill wasn’t carried by his teammates, if anything he carried them. They didn’t win Jack before he got there, and didn’t make the playoffs after he retired.

[@XxXStoneFingerXxX]

Damn dude you're looking at least two shades whiter than usual

[@Davivd2]

Wilt is definitely an enigma, he could put up big scoring numbers and his team would suffer, but the dude could be the most efficient player of all time when he wanted to be. This guy was so far ahead of everyone he chose what he wanted to do. His last season he shot 72 percent from the field and averaged 13 points on 7 attempts per game and 18 rebounds with 4 dimes in 43 minutes per. That's ridiculous.

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

And probably about 8.8 blocks

[@williamethegod5013]

13 points in 43 minutes is ass 4 dimes in 43 minutes is ass especially since he was so much better than that weak ass comp

[@judaheisenberger2883]

I'm getting a sense of deja vu from this video's title and I cant tell why... maybe I'll ask Mike Korzemba.

[@imanolvides3185]

Very hot take: wilt is not top 10. Hes a top 10 talent, but his career achievements brings down his statistical achievements and his place all time for me

[@shawns.12]

I love when editors toss in their own reply to content creators. Shit always cracks me up 😂

[@MrTwille]

Earned my sub . I like your logical way of thinking.

[@justinmartin1831]

Wilt Chamberlain was like the Babe Ruth of basketball at the time. He was just way ahead of everyone else in strength and athleticsm. Doesn't hurt that he was mostly playing against slow white guys. Guy was a genetic freak.

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Don’t be ignorant. Let’s kill this fake narrative l. It’s been debunked too many times for u to still speak such blasphemy. Don’t ever disrespect the great Nate Thurmond, Wes unseld, Walt Bellamy, bob petit, Jerry Lucas, Elgin Baylor, Oscar robertson, Jerry west, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Sam jones, Bailey howell, and more. And that’s just the 60s U also got Gail Goodrich, bob lanier, Elvin Hayes, Kareem, etc. Y’all have to do ur homework and stop spreading disrespectful rhetoric u heard on the media.

[@petiteexplication6249]

Thats like saying MJ was too far ahead of his competition and only won 6 because he played against unathletic players ? Thats just stupid

[@justinmartin1831]

@@TheIcemanthomas I didn't mean every player was bad. All the players You named were great. You are reading way too much into this. Overall the league at the time didn't have as many teams and as many good players. Of course they weren't all slow white guys but a large majority of the league especially in wilts early days were no where near his skill level.

[@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705]

Because there was so few teams, you only got the best players at every positions which means today's role players would just be sitting in the stands. Expansion waters down the competition and quality of play.

[@100Beef]

Love ur vids and so happy you speak your mind it makes these hot takes so interesting but also saying it where it makes a lot of sense. Again love your vids 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@Davivd2]

Dude played 80 games at 48 games per minute. That's impressive.

[@drehitemup9904]

Also offensives that rely too heavily on 1 player it causes the player to be exhausted an by the time the playoffs come around their efficiency drops significantly

[@johnbest4513]

Like LeBron you mean.

[@drehitemup9904]

@@johnbest4513 in Cleveland once kyrie left yeah this probably applies

[@shaunbrooks7156]

You and all your advanced metrics, it doesn’t take stats to recognize talent, man dropped 50 on nightly basis, if he and bill Russell swapped teams, wilt would have 15 rings and the 76ers would be the worst team in the league, bill russell today couldn’t make the cut for the New York Knicks, yet he’s praised like he’s all that, when he’s not

[@johnbest4513]

@@drehitemup9904 It applies for basically his entire career, apart from a couple years in Miami and this last season with the Lakers.

[@bilindabutcher8913]

@@drehitemup9904 also Harden

[@alexalonzo4070]

Underrated channel

[@makis7383]

Finally someone made this video...good job Rusty...I've been saying this for years now.

[@bunnings_snags6564]

Banger of A Video. These type of videos is what seperates you from other youtubers. No bias bs to be found here

[@mubaraksuleiman5227]

Oooouuu You gonna shake some Tables here Rusty

[@kharis87]

People also dont know that the 60's was also the most offensive era of all time and there was no 3 point line. This era is now catching off to the offense produced in the 80's which was second to the 60's. Context is everything. Good video.

[@Toad22484]

I just want to say that intro is amazing and please never change it

[@ttiop]

3:45 he would most likely score more if he had that extra stamina he would use playing 48 games

[@ttiop]

Keyan Dehghan yeah very empty stats

[@rayburks7059]

@Keyan Dehghan definition of empty stats

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@The Ultimate Chamberlain made it clear he did not like to be told what to do. He complained to reporters about Hannum's strategy, and Hannum insisted to the same men that Chamberlain was going to have to change The tension built until one night... Hannum and Chamberlain got into a violent locker-room argument and avoided coming to blows only when other players interevened. Hannum, deciding a showdown was necessary, ordered the other players out, then took off his jacket. "You've been fighting me as a coach all the way," Hannum said. "Now fight me as a man." Chamberlain glared at Hannum for a long moment and then folded, saying, "Aw, I can't fight you, Alex."

[@Asa_Stanley]

Love channel 👍

[@juliothom2408]

Interesting take. But, this has always been the case. It’s why I’ve always argued scoring was overrated with my buddies. MJ scores 63 in the Garden, but got swept by Larry and the balanced Celtics. Who cares about stats if they don’t lead to success? But then, why do people put such a high value on PPG averages and, to a lesser degree, point totals when determining greatness? Many would say Kobe>Duncan because Kobe was more “dominant”. Prime Kobe was a better scorer, and a very good defender. Prime Duncan wasn’t as good at scoring, but was good enough to score mid 20’s from Day 1 throughout his entire prime and was (by all ways we know to measure it) an even better defender than he was an offensive player. Duncan was more consistent and accomplished than anyone in his era, and if he had the exact same career in LA, NY, or Boston would be a unanimous Top 5 player and in the GOAT discussion. But because he wasn’t “dominant” scoring-wise, he’s behind Kobe in most people’s eyes. You have to score “enough” to not be a liability on the court, but why to people revere the scorers over everyone else? The most successful player in NBA history in regards to winning and titles never was better than the 3rd best scorer on his team, yet the narrative has always been he was “carried” by his teammates. But, when Wilt emulated Bill’s style of play, he won titles with Philly and LA. Glad you’re finally understanding this.

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

B/c scoring is more "sexy" and entertaining; for the casual fan. Who don't understand the intricacies of the game as well. IF a player is on a bad team where they need to score 35+ ppg in a season that team isn't going to the finals. As we know the 87 Bulls were a horrible team, MJ's individual effort didn't amount to much. Same with Kobe in '06. The sweet range seems to be for high scorers between 25 to 35; from minimum to maximum. 27 to 33 from low to high. And 30 being ideal as RB stated in the video.

[@alik5972]

He's actually higher in my list than Kobe

[@alejandroalvarez262]

Duncan > Kobe

[@jimbo1130]

His stats go overrated but manz got dumb stamina that can't go overlooked

[@TheIcemanthomas]

His stats aren’t overated. Just inflated. No different than Lebrons numbers in this high paced game and the constantly run Lebroncentric system that allows for him to pad his numbers because he’s the center of everything. Same with harden, Luka, Russ, etc. Wilt is literally just Lebron but in the 60s

[@rayburks7059]

@@TheIcemanthomas yea this is pretty stupid everything runs around Bron i agree with but everything else no LeBron issue is his lack of killer instinct he gets to passive at times every basketball fan knows this Wilt issue was he shot to much and lacked the IQ to do something smart with the ball they are nothing alike at all plus a lot of the comp he lost to were stacked besides the Mavs Wilt kept losing to the Celtics with Bill being their only legit hofer everyone else is jus in there because the ring count not even all stars and they got those rings because they played smart ball on offense and defense

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Ray Burks u can’t say lack of and then use the word sometimes. Lack of means he doesn’t have it at all. That’s simply not true. He’s had too many big all time performances to say he completely lacks it. He has it, he just doesn’t apply it consistently. It’s not natural for him as it is for Kobe or mj or bird. It has to be brought out of him. But it is indeed there.

[@TheIcemanthomas]

Ray Burks and let’s stop with the wilt had no Iq bs because you have no basis to that argument at all. Your just speaking out of your ass about something you have no clue about.

[@rayburks7059]

@@TheIcemanthomas LeBron been In the league longer than hs kids been alive he rarely uses the killer instinct aka he lacks it he only shows flashes and if Wilt had IQ why does he put up so much for so little success? Why is it when he gets to team they are losers he leaves they win? Russell had IQ he knew when to pass and when to score he knew what to do Wilt jus grabbed the board and forced it which is why he would get doubled abd tripled because they knew he didn't have the IQ to make the right play Wilt has had good teams Bill jus makes his team a good team if you getting doubled are you passing or still shooting? If you see an open teammate you gon force a bucket or pass and let them eat? All this stuff determines your IQ on the court it's like Westbrook after KD and before Houston that little td seasons he played reckless he stat padded gambled on defense and led to no success and he played with the lowest IQ i ever seen before with terrible footwork you can't find success chasing individual success you can only find success in team ball on offense and defense and that requires IQ to make the right plays when its needed

[@pranavsattiraju]

Kobe even said it himself when asked about harden last yr he himself said that playstyle isbt conducive to winning championships or anything meaningful

[@rGGdom]

Totally agree. I would even expand the point, most inflated stats for a particular player seems to me that it ends up being detrimental to the success of the team on that particular year. Jordan seems to have understood that when he said he was not going to chase numbers for himself, instead he'll take a team approach, back when Phil implemented the triangular offense.

[@starscreamjesse2121]

Here before he hits 1 million subs

[@gamemasteroffun]

When he averaged 50 pts a game, his win shares weren’t very good

[@jeanclaudealexo2167]

I really like this take, especially the point about other players shooting out of rhythm if one player dominates the scoring. That's got to be so uncomfortable. I def be interested to see the rest of the team's field goal percentage between '66 vs '67

[@GothPaoki]

The drop in his stats in play offs should tell you all about him.Great player but his stats are inflated cause of stattpadding.

[@s.1852]

Hades Zero yeah he’s not top five all time but still an all time great

[@night6724]

Dude, Arizin still averaged 22 pts a game which was roughly this career average same with Gola

[@gastonruiz4061]

Rick Barry in 66-67 avarage 35.6 points in the regular season and reach the finals with the Warriors and lose to the Sixers, but he reach it.

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

Who else was gonna score though? He was shooting 51% from the field and his next best player was shooting 46%, and he was the only other one over 42%

[@samhartje723]

He played with great players, but his style was to completely dominate the ball.

[@samhartje723]

@The Ultimate dude, you're not as smart as you think you are.

[@samhartje723]

@The Ultimatethat doesn't make any sense

[@matador2554]

Smh KZbin bullshittin again moving the comments and shit

[@alexgrissom3513]

Oh hey I’ve seen this MDJ video

[@faizans4537]

didnt mike korzemba make a video about this like 2 years ago?

[@thomasbrady3827]

What a lot of people forget about this season is that he played every minute of every game. How many players in today’s NBA do you think could do that with efficient offense every possession. I’m not saying that play styled lead to winning but the fact that he could do that without getting tired is superhuman.

[@johnnystevenson2987]

rusty lookin extra cute today 🥰🥰

[@Bu11yMagu1re]

Its actually quite astonishing how not only is there a poor correlation between scoring titles and championships but a poor correlation between scoring titles and having an elite offense.

[@comacollosasa6282]

So what do you think of the d’Antoni/harden philosophy of isoball? Isn’t the ideal version in their minds harden averaging a ridiculous number of FGAs, points, and assists bc of the scoring threat and winning because of that?

[@ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr]

Wilt would average 27-28 PPG in his prime in today’s nba which is obviously still amazing but he wouldn’t be some otherworldly type player

[@kunalpatel1147]

Wilt was a once in a lifetime athlete he’ll be at least a top 5 player and the last of jumper won’t hurt him around the right team(giannis)

[@Terror832]

Worst case scenario in today’s NBA Wilt would average 35 PPG, 15 RPG, 5 APG, 5 BPG, 500 shattered backboards, 10,000 women, 20,000 Bill Russell laughs, etc.

[@prodbyicha]

thelegendsqb1 more than 10k women prolly like 20k tbh lmao

[@tj5180]

@@Terror832 lmao

[@egg8133]

Arshdeep Singh you have to understand that wilt would get the modern training methods and would be even more of a monster

[@marco-kt2fg]

He's not overated because if he was just any player he wouldn't be able to do the things he accomplished

[@leonbrumett6155]

6_Astro WRLD_6 no one is denying that he is at minimum a top 15 to 12 player of all time, but some people put him in the top 5. That is, by definition, overrated.

[@marco-kt2fg]

@@leonbrumett6155 I don't think anyone can call him overrated or underrated because none of us actually saw him play.

[@Hfidon]

Damn majority of the people in the comments section are so stupid. How do they not get the point that Wilt's needless stat padding resulted in less titles/wins? He had HOF talent on his team too yet continued to ball stop.

[@benmedina6698]

I genuinely believe Wilt is a slightly overrated player. He had help, he choked, and focused solely on individual accolades.

[@shaunbrooks7156]

Boy, overrated, how is someone averaging 50 overrated, you and your advanced metric nerd stuff now days think your so smart, I have real basketball knowledge, and I know wilt is the 2nd best player all time after Lebron, and FYI, wilt played with a bunch of army soldiers, he had no help, and explain to me how he choked, if you swapped him and bill Russell, he’d have like 15 rings

[@wooshbr758]

@@shaunbrooks7156 your an idiot watch the video. Wilt only dominated because of his extreme Athleticism and lack there of in his era. He didn't really have hoop game. If he was 6'4 we not having this convo rn

[@benmedina6698]

@@shaunbrooks7156 🤦

[@wooshbr758]

@@shaunbrooks7156 he routinely put up poor numbers compared to his regular szn he choked he had no help. Btw he had multiple hall of famers on his team he had help. You have no knowledge on wilt your ignorant and just look at stats use context idiot.

[@petiteexplication6249]

@@wooshbr758 if i was 6'8 i would be the goat whats your point ?

[@anesu846]

4:12 ofcourse it was. 82 games, 48 minutes and you averaged 50 is an amazing feet of stamina. That means Jordan was sitting and resting while Wilt was relentlessly putting up these numbers at that pace with no rest. I usually rock with you and I agree with your overall point but trying to discredit a 50ppg season is imppossible. Winning or not, 50ppg in the NBA is 50ppg

[@anesu846]

@Keyan Dehghan yeah. As much as we can say they didnt win, if we gave a bunch of NBA legends a situation like Wilt's they arent giving you 50ppg even if the offense was set up for it. However you slice it its unbelievable. Ofcourse it's not how you want your team to play basketball but that doesnt take away from what averaging 50ppg entails

[@carlitojaunito2269]

And yet Jordan scored more

[@anesu846]

@@carlitojaunito2269 what?

[@anesu846]

@Keyan Dehghan oh for a career yeah but we have seen Wilt explain why his career average isnt as high. And what you say is true. I understand why the whole argument. I'm just saying, actually being able to score the 50 in the first place is amazing. Before you start deciding is scoring 50ppg winning basketball, who woulda been able to put themselves in a position to make that choice. Jordan maybe and that's it. Kd, Lebron, Bird. All these dudes wont give you 50 a night if the coach told them to. They may have a stretch but not 82 games

[@rayburks7059]

Whenyou're taking all the shots and get no wins its already discredited jus saying

[@DAENZAI]

I was just gonna write an article about this 😤

[@usernameiphone3gkid]

I was working on my nba website for school and found out about Wilt's 50ppg which I didnt know about beforehand. And then 5 minutes later and i see this video lol

[@clumsybanana6524]

This just sounds like explaining "empty numbers" with extra steps.

[@nictyrpenou]

Next on Rusty Buckets: Why Wilt sleeping with 20,000 women was OVERRATED

[@trentd3988]

He did just play against old white guys but damn he still averaged 50 and a lot of rebounds against some 6’8 guys is still impressive.

[@carloseduardolugon-moulin2211]

Nigga wilt wasn’t even close to be the tallest C in those days

[@kvereensr1]

Yeah but that was fastest season in NBA history 5 people averaged more than 30 ppg. At 2015 pace wilt would have averaged 28 ppg, still great but nowere near as great.

[@firstnamelastname-up6ni]

You're wise beyond your years. Take you like

[@TheMarkTEP25]

Great video man, and you did it without disrespecting the players of the 60s. You actually gave them a lot more respect that they deserved.

[@TheMarkTEP25]

@The Ultimate I said they deserved respect. I’m on your side lol

[@dantemayes1814]

I think there is a difference between how good someone is as a basketball player and how good of a career someone has or how good of a team player or fit a player is and Wilt is one of the best basketball players of all time

[@martindagoat3909]

Wilt Chamberlain averaged 8 assists a game....as a center...in the 60’s....let that sink in

[@samhartje723]

He was literally fishing for assists to be petty lol

[@TheHaas123]

I think wilt in today’s nba would average around 33, 20, and 6-8 along with 1.5 steals and 6 blocks. And he would be the best player in the league. BUT. He wouldn’t be as good as he was back then. However the idea that he played up against old unathletic short white guys is bullshit. Wilt especially with modern training and medicine would be a monster.

[@bilindabutcher8913]

33 points and 20 rebounds with 6-8 assists? Wtf lmao how can he be the best player in the league if when he's averaging 35+ modern NBA points back then his teams still can't win shit

[@TheHaas123]

Diego Lopez with modern training, that’s about what he would average, assuming he played 40-42 minutes a game, which considering his stamina, he probably would.

[@TheHaas123]

AHMAD2423 wilt was a track star who had a faster 40 yard dash speed than lebron. With modern trainers, and equipment and medicine, he would easily be able to run with everyone on the court. He’s not arguably the most athletic player of all time, he IS the most athletic player of all time.

[@crimson6952]

That is complete bullshit😂

[@TheHaas123]

Ethereal what part?

[@3verdades832]

I really hope this guy gets over a 1000000 subscríbirers. He’s good at this shit

[@freefallingband]

Man said 24 24 and 8. I thought my video skipped

[@rustybuckets]

on 68% shooting

[@thegodking26]

Goat Chamberlain!

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.

[@suto5704]

Do you have any interesting takes on hakeem olajuwon?

[@rustybuckets]

he was good, thats my take

[@suto5704]

@@rustybuckets i feel enlightened

[@TrideepNagg]

Rusty Buckets what about Isiah thomas

[@rustybuckets]

@@TrideepNagg also good

[@TrideepNagg]

Rusty Buckets what do you think of the whole Isiah and Jordan feud and the dream team snub? Please make a video on it.

[@jameshartman3630]

That’s hilarious 2:45

[@jorgecobelo]

100% true, 100% applicable to LeBron.

[@rustybuckets]

eh no not really

[@crimson6952]

I think that's kinda true because the cavs offense was basically for Lebron to drive and pass out. The players on the 17-18 cavs were good but they were not utilized correctly and they just turned into spot up shooters. If your entire offense is Lebron being the only star/ ball handler and being surrounded by 4 shooters, you probably won't win a championship. It works in 2k but not in real life unfortunately.

[@Ghostkilla773]

My problem with this video is that you picked on Wilt and not on other players

[@debe08]

Funny how Wilt was able to turn on that switch of playing good team basketball rather than playing individually dominant basketball and once he did that they took down the prime Celtics and people still say Russell is better

[@juanmmendez449]

Also proves he liked his stats better than winning a championship. But yeah he could have kept Bill Russell from winning 11, maybe Bill Russell only wins 5.

[@clivedavies9530]

I would agree with you but Wilt shot 50% from the field that year, higher than any of his teammates. If you can shoot that much and still remain efficient there's not really any reason not to do it.

[@rustybuckets]

same thing applied to the 66 season, wilt averaged the most points on the best efficiency, when he shot less the team was better, so yes, there is a reason not to do it

[@clivedavies9530]

@@rustybuckets I don't see how that can be the case. Who do you want taking the shot over the most efficient guy on your team?

[@anxiety1018]

@@clivedavies9530 It means that his team mates won't be in rhythm.

[@bosslax3162]

Wilt deserved the MVP award that year.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.

[@bosslax3162]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 What's your point? Because none of that disproves that he deserved it that specific year.

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

@@bosslax3162 If Wilt played the best team many many times, that means he also had to play the WORST teams many many times. Here is an example we brought up earlier In his 50-26 season (1961/62), Wilt's team had a solid 49-31 record, but 10 of those wins came against the absolute worst team in the league (18-62 Chicago Packers). Without his 10-0 record against the absolute worst team in the league, Wilt's team had a regular 39-31 record. If not for the benefit of playing the worst teams in the league many many times, Wilt's team's record would not have looked as well. And, if this does make Wilt so great, how come in the playoffs (when only the best teams are left) Wilt's numbers decreased?

[@bosslax3162]

@@casualfandestroyer2503 I seem to forget, is the MVP award a regular season award or playoff award. Because I was under the assumption that, as its always been, its for regular season achievement. Therefore anything that happened after the regular season is irrelevant. Anything you bring up about the playoffs and Wilt that year or any other year doesn't matter with the question at hand.

[@Garrettthorne]

I hoped u plugged the BS book of basketball he was one of the first people I heard bring up the truth between him and Russell

[@kylefreeman8077]

I didn't agree with the pure point guard take but this one I agree with scoring too much leaves teammates felling out of the game so they won't be able to help when they need to

[@shotokhan1992]

yea, a lot of these statistical anomalies are just the result of a superstar resorting to stat-padding. wilt was known as a headcase who tried to fight the coach who finally got him to stop shooting so much, because he was mad his numbers would go down. like westbrook's triple-double thing. if giannis, lebron, harden, ben simmons, and maybe even draymond played solely to get triple-doubles, westbrook wouldn't be the only one who did it. the smart players put team success over stat-padding.

[@edgaramora1319]

Taking that volume of shots is a reflection of what kind of team they have. Jordan looked unstoppable against Boston series yet he lost to Bird, McHale and Parish.. Having only one great player is very difficult to win it all. But .509 FG pct averaging 50/game is impressive. 8.8 blocks 20rebounds?

[@archiegabiazon]

Btw. Do one on Bill Russel winning 11 titles

[@tj5180]

That was a insane season that wilt had but he put up good stats over 50 ppg and score the most points in a game mainly because of the pace other players put up insane stats mainly because of the pace in wilts era but hes still a great player if he played in todays era

[@Nomorehats]

Never noticed Rusty's lisp until now. Sheesh

[@chrisjoseph3883]

Everyone in the 60s made the HoF based on such small number of teams so they were alot of guys that averaged 17-4-3 on terrible shooting splits would make the HoF

[@trabertgraneau3323]

It was more common for players to play more minutes for every game because they were finding ways to maintain their bodies.

[@chrisjoseph3883]

I agree with your point about high scoring and wins..... But this adds to the MJ goat case cuz he won all 6 rings while also leading the league in scoring all 6 times... Highest 32.6 and lowest 28.7... also while being first team all defense all those years and had a 72-10 season... His scoring did go down a lil bit with the emergence of Scottie but it was really the triangle that led to all those chips... If wilt had a good coach all of his career that used him correctly.. cuz like wilt was also leading the league in FG% so it wasn't like he was jus chuxking shots.... But had he played in a better system from start to finish and average 30 every year instead of 50 and 40 he would've likely had more chips

[@Jasonwilliams21]

agree also was extend this to teams that feature triple double guys westbrook didnt get out of the first round any of his triple double seasons despite being the favorite to win each year. lebron led teams struggle in the finals despite being the favorites for the same reason. now our media will always give him the excuse after that its his teammates fault for not putting up numbers but how the hell an you average 20 a game to contribute more if you only get 8 shots and not even 8 shots when you know youre gonna get the ball. and look at the teams he lost too 2x spurs ball movment style offense multiple guys getting 20 and role players getting over 10 mavericks 1x ball movement multiple guys getting 20 and role players getting over 10 and warrirors 3x ball movment multiple guys getting 20 and role players getting over 10.

[@HustlePoints]

This video slanders me more than it slanders Wilt.

[@jjthe13th]

Funny thing is, I've been playing MY CAREER, and I checked my player card and noticed this theory in effect. I had 5 rings, and 4 of them I averaged less than 10 ppg. Conversely, there were a few seasons when I had more than 15 ppg, and that's when my team was either far out of the playoffs at best, or in the bottom 5 in the conference at worst.

[@issiahsampson8618]

Jj The 13th you are ass

[@jjthe13th]

@@issiahsampson8618 Yeah, but let's assume I was actually in the NBA, would I be better than Barkley or AI tho, John Stockton or the Mailman, because I had more rings?

[@issiahsampson8618]

Jj The 13th your trash at 2k

[@jjthe13th]

@@issiahsampson8618 Didn't say I was a superstar

[@jjthe13th]

@@issiahsampson8618 wait. R u seriously out here liking ur own comments?

[@Sizdothyx]

Your logic here resonates with my opinion that Kawhi Leonard should have been the 2017 NBA MVP over Russell Westbrook. "Lies, damned lies and statistics"

[@struck7976]

i cant be the only one wondering why you hold a basketball. some sort of proof you play/know about it? compensation for your race? please let me/us know

[@rustybuckets]

idk where you got compensation for race lol, but I just think its fun to hold the ball, while talking ball. just a part of the set

[@OK-yy6qz]

Fun Fact for the Last 19 years there's not a Single scoring Champion that has actually Won a Championship (last was Shaq in 2000) and only 3 scoring Champions have made the Finals in that timespan (2016 Curry,2012Durant,2001 Iverson) On the other Hand there are 2 Championship teams in the Same timespan that didn't even had one 20 PPG scorer(2014 Spurs,2004 Pistons, with at least 2 more making the Finals( 2002,2003 Nets)

[@benmedina6698]

I wouldn't say Celtics were at there peak in 1967 a few players left and it was Bill Russell's first as player coach

[@bilindabutcher8913]

Rusty when you said that Jordan played in a "slower pace, no spacing era," check the stats. League average pace in the late 80s - 90s was about the same as today which is like 100 Possessions per game. Not hating btw nice video!

[@giantcafe7040]

I peeped that when I was watching the last dance the scores are kinda similar to modern basketball sometimes 🤔

[@bilindabutcher8913]

@@giantcafe7040 yeah lmao the pace started going down when illegal defense rules were removed and that's when the isolation era started and pace hovered around 90 Possessions per game (2000s) then the pace has recently peaked at like 101 Possessions in 2020

[@crimson6952]

Bull's played at a pace of 95 tho, less than 100

[@bilindabutcher8913]

@@crimson6952 I was talking about the pace of the era, not the bulls

[@gapos8212]

Rusty, you’re the GOAT NBA KZbinr. Greetings from Philippines.

[@thomas8539]

Kris Weng That’s a hot take right there

[@subscriberswithOnlyonevi-zm2ix]

Das racist

[@ultibolt3286]

Jonny Arnet

[@eazymoneydbooker5957]

MDJ, Thinking Basketball, BBALLBREAKDOWN, and Coach Daniel is my mount rushmore

[@SmoothCriminal12]

I didn't know that was even a hot take

[@dougnapier6441]

in response to this video: Wilt chamberlain only played 38 games the year they won 17 games and was traded midseason. The Warriors made it to the finals in 1964 with wilt chamberlain scoring. Tom Gola is in the hall of fame for his college career, he was a good but not great pro player. Paul was good but only played with the team for three years before he retired, and as good as paul was sam jones, and bob Cousy are considered better players by far. Wilt Chamberlain vs the Celtics is comparable to LeBron James vs the warriors. Even though LeBron won a title vs them and proved he could beat them people will slander him for losing to the much superior team. the wilt vs Celtics is a very similar situation.

[@SS-vb7yq]

I know winning is important but when I watch your videos it feels like anyome who doesn't win a championship shouldn't be praised

[@alfredoleggo5538]

S S that’s not the point tho. He couldn’t even make it to the championship to lose because of his dependence to shoot his team out the game.

[@SS-vb7yq]

HI IM PAUL let's not act like making it to the championship is super easy. Besides, you're allowed to praise something wihout adding a diss in it. He does that a lot

[@bilindabutcher8913]

@@SS-vb7yq yeah but some people call Wilt the GOAT or put him in their top 5. It is hard as fuck to win a championship but people just look at Wilt's numbers without context of league average pace, minutes played, team success and say he was godlevel when his teams couldn't even win

[@PrimeTime23]

Diego Lopez he avg 48 mins a game lmao more possessions jus shows how much stamina he had to be running up and down the court back and down more,hands down most athletic person to play in the nba

[@coreymcnulty5125]

thank you someone who dosent overrate players of that era based on there stats

[@PastorTFowler]

Wilt averages 50 in his early 20's and its overated. But zach lavine averages 20 and its underated.

[@jimbix8517]

But Zach is always getting guarded by the teams best perimeter defender and these guys are wayyyyyyy better then the best defenders in Wilts day

[@killerlamas3532]

yes, thank you for stating some facts

[@rustybuckets]

just watch the fucking video

[@judaheisenberger2883]

bro there's a difference between being overrated and being bad. Rusty legit says its impressive in the first 3 minutes

[@jimbix8517]

@@judaheisenberger2883 he didn't watch the video

[@anthonynorman7545]

Look at the pace numbers on Jordan's 37 pt season. It's not that slow

[@christiansandoval5045]

Rusty just speak facts no one trying to take away from Wilt the athlete the man was one of a kind but this definitely have ppl put in more thought about Wilt cause all ppl mention is the 50 point season

[@raghurampurohit5251]

So, the moral of these videos (the pure point guard and the high scoring season I mean) is that putting up big stats isn't really healthy for your team. This just increased my respect for the Warriors, they found a way to make it work with a guy averaging 30 ppg and then the next season 2 guys on that roster averaged 25+ ppg and they somehow managed to get Klay to still score 20PPG along with those two players and they ended up winning chips.

[@noway8743]

MJ would be averaging 10 more points not by shooting more but by getting more free throws and cleaner looks because of the defense rules of today. So the volume of shooting would still remain the same but points would be more

[@glyle2504]

When they did per 75, his average was 27 points per game. So...yeah that season was overrated. However, I don’t say that because of the rings.

[@felipefasanella7764]

The "slow pace" league argument is a little misleading, considering Jordan still took wayyyyy more shots than a lot of superstars today.

[@jabariburton6109]

And made more

[@ceoofkobefans8808]

Before watching the video I agree it’s not that it’s overrated it’s that it wouldn’t happen in any other era because the reason he did it was because he was the only 7 footer that year and was 7’2 the average height for a C was around 6’8 6’9 it in the 80s and 90s when the majority of Bigs were 7 foot he wouldn’t do that he could still score he’d prolly get 29-35 but he’d never do 50-25 he’d be closer to 35-15

[@ognjen39]

Wait so correct me if I'm wrong the entire "Wilt lead the league in assists just because he wanted to own the critics" narrative is flawed?

[@vladimirklizschko9337]

All that tells me is that he was damn good. If really the only reason he had less rings is becausw he scored too much and the season where he didnt he played the best that shows what a true monster he really was.

[@kingajofficial5527]

he was very talented but could’ve been a better overall player had he bought in to the team concept of ball

[@night6724]

@@kingajofficial5527 he had 2.5 assists a game and his next top scoring teammates Paul Arizin and Gola averaged 22 and 14 respectively which are their career averages