The Truth Luke Learned About the Dark Side After Joining the Clone of Emperor Palpatine! (Legends)

[@vitorkennedy1862]

Historically when a jedi plays the double agent to defeat the evil guy from the inside out it never works. It didn't work for Ulic Qel Droma, Quinlan Voss and it didn't work for Luke either. But Luke discovered the dark side is a side of the force that everyone has, and that the right thing is not purge but control it.

[@maxfelson9467]

maybe not "right" per say but 'best' thing because, as the video put it it cant really be purged of course my point is sort of pedantic and depends on ones perspective but i think it'll help and its best to make define / make it clear.

[@abigailslade3824]

vitor kennedy you gotta admit the planet crushing ships in dark empire kicked ass

[@REIVAXEBONFIEND]

Tru

[@Smellbringer]

This is what I think the difference between what happened to Luke in the EU and in Canon. In the EU Luke learns to accept darkness while in Canon Luke repeats the same mistake as the original Jedi, causing him to lose Ben and losing faith in his own judgement, thus Ach-To.

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

That’s why Luke is the greatest Jedi of all time. I bet even if leia hadn’t stepped in the worst like would’ve gotten to is like Dooku episode 2 level (not actually a sith all things considered) then he would’ve cured himself.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Darkness without light is a void. Light without darkness is blinding.

[@emmanuelmorris7653]

Now that's deep.

[@frenchsterr]

Very nice

[@REIVAXEBONFIEND]

Fax

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@o o f Hmmm. Interesting. I can't say I fully agree, but it is thought provoking nonetheless.

[@ownthevoid]

Yoda wasn’t blinded

[@justinwallace269]

What’s interesting about this is that it’s exactly what Palpatine tried to explain to Anakin when he made his initial dark side sales pitch. “Anakin....In order to understand the great mystery, one must embrace all its aspects, not just the narrow, dogmatic view of the Jedi. In order to become a complete and wise leader, one must embrace a ~larger~ view of the force.” Even though I wasn’t a fan of the clone Palpatine concept, I do really like the lesson Luke learned and his enlightened perspective at the end. It’s such a tragedy that this enlightened Luke was tossed out and replaced with a humiliated coward who knew nothing and almost killed his own nephew.

[@angelangelis8362]

The ultimate Irony here is that, while this was what Palpatine tried to use to lure Anakin to the Dark Side, he didn't really believe it. Palpatine never saw any real value in the Light Side of the Force beyond what it could do to benefit him and his schemes. As such he delved deeper and deeper into the Dark Side until it consumed him, whether he realized it or not. Luke proved that his lie was actually the truth. The Force is not good or evil, the Force is the Force. It will come to all who call on its power within reason, but to wield the Dark Side without balance will always cost you, just like wielding the light only ever seemed to make one more emotionally distant or even seemingly empty Inside.

[@bakionigeri6414]

@@angelangelis8362 exactly, you're smart because very few people realize the downsides of being bathed in the light. Jedi and people only on the light side have the flaws like you said, but they're also lazy. Always being reactive instead of going out there and preventing threats

[@silversobe]

Disney's Star Wars is a deliberate disgrace and sabotage..

[@justinwallace269]

@@silversobe Yep, Instead of calling it 'The Last Jedi', they should have called it 'The Luke Character Assassination'. Such trash.

[@Ramzblood]

such a missed opporunity. Imagine all that searching, just to have Luke come out of the shadows and neck tie someone with his Dark Saber... hahahahaha

[@RoderickR07]

*_"Remember, abilities aren't inherently good or evil... it's how you use them." - Kyle Katarn_*

[@CadeVonWilkens3117]

I thought of this same line. :)

[@delta2372]

I miss star wars Chuck Norris :(

[@evanweiss71]

@@delta2372 you mean Chuck Norris is Wal-Mart brand Kyle Katarn

[@azureangel8217]

@@evanweiss71 yes

[@ReicantheJester]

he said as he, rather than killing enemies outright quickly. Disarmed them then threw them down into pits with grip rank 3 :P

[@spartanmagnus9176]

Luke in legends was more insightful and wise

[@BJETNT]

I would personally like to just open hand b**** slap the director for what he made Mark Hamill do for Luke's character!!! Mark Hamell said himself he completely fundamentally disagreed with what they were doing to Luke. You've got the original character that did it almost 40 years ago and you're arguing with him about the way things go just to stick your chest out I really think this guy should have the hell beat out of him I'm not joking in the slightest. We could have fed millions of people for the money he just completely wasted. He might as well just set it on fire.

[@tylerjones7592]

Legends Luke accepts Kyp Durron back into the order after he destroys a planet put Luke in a coma and would have blown Han and Lando if Luke’s padawans hadn’t defeated Exar Kun Jake Skywalker is a depressed coward who tried to kill his nephew in his sleep

[@tylerjones7592]

Plus Legends Luke married the woman who wanted to kill him

[@Robocopnik]

@@BJETNT Don't lie, Mark Hammill likes TLJ, he said so plain as day that he likes the director's decisions.

[@Robocopnik]

He literally re-creates and surpasses his mentor's final, heroic sacrifice, (while Obi Wan saved like, 6 people? tops?, Luke saves THE WHOLE REBELLION.) by sacrificing himself in a duel against his former student so his friends can escape. It fucking RHYMES, you dingus.

[@razor6202]

"Everyone can be redeemed..." How I wish canon Luke knew this earlier...

[@jintym2951]

Fear of the Dark Side was the ultimate failing of the Republic Jedi Order; shielding their padawans from even the slightest hint of the Dark which left the Order completely incapable of facing it in the end. I love the moment in the Revenge of the Sith novel when Yoda realises that he & the Jedi spent the last 1000yrs preparing for the wrong war because of their blinding distrust & fear of the Dark Side. Thanks for another great video xx

[@DeathScepter]

they have every right to fear the Dark Side. For The nature of the Dark Side is dangerous to all.

[@jintym2951]

@@DeathScepter Yes but I would argue that there's a difference between healthy fear & blind fear. I love this era of Jedi, I especially loved Plo Koon's & Ashoka's relationship in Clone Wars, as well as getting to know all the Masters a little better. But they definitely allowed their fears to lead them into being pawns in their own demise, keeping secret after secret from both the Senate and from their fellow Jedi. They literally isolated themselves through their fear & chose to wait for the Sith to make a mistake even as they were being penned into a trap. It's what makes Luke's journey so great learning from both the wisdom of the Jedi and the mistakes to build something truly better for all xx

[@DeathScepter]

@@jintym2951 Well It is an organization, being used like a pawn is the normal. Also Secrets by its nature, can't be always be understood by others. For example with Force users like Jedi and Sith, They experience Reality differently than your average Non Force Users. Explaining the Force to the Non Force Users will be hard in the best times, so explaining themselves to the Senate and Public will leave a lot of the public head scatching. Also Most Jedi Masters have a good reason to keep their secrets private from their Knights and Padawans due to that if told the natural confusion will occur.

[@jintym2951]

@@DeathScepter Absolutely true. Chain of command in any organisation necessitates that some things be known only to those at the top, doubly so in a time of war. However, by the end of the Clone Wars this reasonable compartmenting of information had become less of a relegation of information than a habitual need to keep secrets, which in the final days turned into full (albeit justified) paranoia. They trusted no one any more. And what's worse they failed to accept a simple truth, all things must eventually fade even institutions like the Republic & indeed the Jedi Order. Their fear of the Sith led to frustration with the non-Force organisations that frankly didn't care about the Sith. This frustration fueled their hate of the Sith for the threat posed to a mostly oblivious galaxy. This led them to blindly walk into the machinations of the Sith to the suffering of pretty much everyone. If the Prequel Trilogy had to be narrowed down into just 1 message, it would be that the road to hell is laid by good intentions. Thanks for this fun debate btw 🤓 xx

[@jintym2951]

@Bizzare Meme Lord Thanks xx

[@yourstruly4817]

The Senates' Clones were very impressive, he must've been very proud.

[@delta2372]

Allot more impressive than the bullshit from ROS that's for sure

[@Facade953]

He's just a simple man, trying to make his way through the universe.

[@red_menace1829]

@@delta2372 oh wahhh

[@delta2372]

@@red_menace1829 oh look a sequel trilogy fan

[@Brother_Jonah_TOG.]

This was beautifully done

[@matstick1100]

honestly wish we coulve gotten a legends based sequel trilogy

[@losgreensborogboro5804]

Me to smh

[@vitorkennedy1862]

Let's write for Netflix.

[@420SaveDaFish420]

Only true fans feel this way. Why disney why you gotta disrespect the OG actors of Mark, Harrison and Carrie. What a shame. Mean while they are everything we dreamed of in Legends. At least we still have that.

[@ItReallyIsiPOD]

@@420SaveDaFish420 nice gatekeeping

[@BJETNT]

Damn you said it in one sentence my friend!! They had so many good things to draw from so many books cartoons and whatnot and they managed to not use any of it and just f*** it up as bad as they could. I don't even know you and I bet you and I could have come up with three better movies by far in one night.

[@Phoenixesper1]

It took luke an entire saga to figure out what Windu explained in a sentence. "I don't fear the dark side, I fear those who do."

[@Rangoslap8]

Mace was smarter than the rest.

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

Mace had a lifetime of resources and training with an organization that accelerated your exposure to these forces to learn that. Luke had 4 years of incomplete training from 2 nearly senile masters too old to barely move for prolonged periods of time, while he was on the move and putting what little he knew into practice. Not exactly a fair comparison

[@TheStellarmanCo.]

@@GokuInfintysaiyan He did exceptionally well though considering. He defeated Vader & Palpatine Two great Duelist in their own right.

[@jscorpio1987]

Richard Mercado Richard Mercado ROTJ Palpatine wasn’t exactly a great duelist. He could barely walk without a cane. He was just a physically weak wizard that could shoot out some lightning while yelling insults at Luke. He couldn’t even fight off a weakened Vader picking him up to throw him down the shaft. It wasn’t until ROTS that Lucas retroactively made him an overpowered duelist. It’s extremely obvious that when Lucas wrote ROTJ, Palpatine was just a feeble old man who had a few tricks with the force up his sleeve. Actually, in old cannon, before the prequels were written, Palpatine wasn’t even force sensitive in his own right. He just had a crystal that gave him force powers as long as it was in his possession.

[@donnellebarfield3964]

Vader was holding back against Luke even like admitted it later no one could defeat Darth Vader in combat well at least very few in the entire history of star wars legends Vader was unkillable too full of rage

[@darylsdesigns6679]

“Quicker, easier, more seductive.” - Grandmaster Yoda

[@uglyweirdo1389]

I'll agree he was seductive but was Yoda easy?

[@averageinternettroll]

Well clearly he was cuz we have baby yoda

[@darrellbenbrook6622]

And thats how baby yoda came to be.

[@jayburn00]

Agh, you guys just had to create that mental image....

[@jessenichols9618]

Dont talk about my ex wife jesus

[@harrissyed1417]

Expanded Universe/"Legends" Luke Skywalker was not only a Grand Jedi Master but led the New Jedi Order and was a badass with a redhead hot wife named Mara Jade.

[@lucaswood839]

I miss that

[@brooklynsmokes151]

Smh that was my favorite series I wish they would went with that instead of this bullshit now the kesh with were more badass than the first order and it set up the whole anaboth think it’s spell but the force entity just an amazing set of books

[@delta2372]

I miss the old star wars.

[@donnellebarfield3964]

Also like Jedi order was alot stronger on average then the previous one his students saw alot of war and combat

[@delta2372]

@@donnellebarfield3964 stronger but fewer in number compared to the Jedi during the old republic era before the clone wars.

[@connorhilchie2779]

Luke is more or less a Grey Jedi after he left Clone Sidous, and i like that. One more way Luke was better then Jedi like Obi Wan and Yoda. don't fight or suppress it, just know how to control it, like Mace Windu

[@lucaswatanabe9429]

Or more like Jolee Bindo.

[@rockinHurley777]

Than*....

[@judeskater93]

Connor Hilchie wouldn’t say windu as he was still in the mindset for the Jedi to fight or surpresd the dark side. Actually he might be even worst than yoda and obiwan.

[@damarglover6363]

He was more Orthodox than most Jedi in some aspects but he did have some grey to him though their were others who were more grey than him such as jacen, Kyle, Jaden, jaina, and kyp. Those five were way more grey in my opinion

[@Mrcaptainmorgan93]

I'd say morel like revan. I know mace had dark tendencies but he was still a true warrior of the light. Only using the dark of his enemy's really

[@JanPeverell]

Dark Empire might not be the greatest Star Wars story ever told, but I love it exactly for this, for what lessons it provides to Luke. That the Dark Side was not to be feared but to be accepted, that love for family and friends could redeem instead of doom - that, to me, is what makes Luke the first of the new Jedi, the very basis of the New Jedi Order.

[@AustralianGQ]

Great analogy of Luke and his exploration of the dark side. His realization that the dark side of the force is something that should be explored carefully and respected versus feared and forbidden truly makes Luke one of the greatest Jedi of all time. You didnt mention though how Luke became too immersed in the dark side unable to find his way back to the light side after the death of the cloned Palpatine. It was Leia's love that brought him back to the light just as Vader's love for his family did. Certainly Vader had a few other reasons as well too.

[@neilmurphy966]

"Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi.." -Luke, RoS 😉

[@DeathScepter]

that is true.

[@TisDansk]

*Jake, RoS

[@jacquecortez5014]

Yoda: "Dark side of the force is not easy to turn away from Changed into a different person they are."

[@zenyi1459]

Dont know why this channel only have 300k subs the quality put into these videos are incredible I wouldnt be surprised it Star wars Theory doesnt collab woth you . Jerp up the good work bro and God bless

[@shanelewis7052]

Could hear the choir in my head during Luke's overpowering of Vader at the start. Fantastic scene.

[@marywilcox3102]

I love that moment so much!

[@Gamerafighter76]

I liked how Luke understood you can’t have one without the other and that the Jedi and Sith were so blind to it, they couldn’t see past what they believed was the right side of the force.

[@bakionigeri6414]

the character of luke skywalker ;ITTERALLY saved me from being evil... if not for me..... for THANKS MASTER LUKE!

[@crazyjoeshorts5256]

When tempted by the dark, do not act; ask where the fear or anger is coming from within yourself, and adress it first. The dark side will always exist. But the fear and anger with you can be dealt within you, not by burying it. Accept that some things are beyond your control.

[@texasvet2729]

God the Expanded Universe is sooo much better

[@elmerkado]

The problem with the expanded universe is that not all the stories are good. Yes, there's a lot of cool lore but many times hidden in a heap of crap. Sometimes I read Wookieepedia and compare with the source material, and realize the best stuff is written by fans for fans.

[@Thedreamlandfire]

Texas Vet so good , Lucas never ready any of them and said that this isn’t how he pictures things rolling out 😂

[@delta2372]

@@elmerkado EU has its flaws this is true but it's a hell of allot better than disney canon.

[@BJETNT]

You can't get much worse than the new Canon stuff. Well the movies anyway the comics are actually pretty good

[@shinndig1293]

Nah, lots of shit.

[@chernobylaffect0619]

Luke: Anyone can come back from the dark side Also Luke: *tries to kill his nephew because he felt a little bit of darkness in him* I know this isn’t cannon, but dang the last Jedi was bad😂

[@keithchamp]

Disney destroys everything

[@LoveThisRealWoman]

Chernobyl Affect06 that wasn’t Luke Skywalker it was Jake Soywalker.

[@grindcoreninja6527]

I consider the new trilogy non canon.

[@Constantine_xP]

Darth Mickey and Darth Kathleen was aiding Luke's actions to kill his nephew

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

Just the movies. The tv series are 👌 with me.

[@JLandmaster]

The dark side is in all of us. It is a beast that must be tamed, not ignored, becoming a part of who we are. Mastered and incorporated, not disregarded.

[@joyofautomobiles8056]

What I love about this part of the expanded universe is it’s like a life lesson in a sense and I feel like people can relate to it.

[@DamienHanma]

3:42 LUKES OWN TENANTS, OF WHAT THE DARKSIDE CONSISTS OF;

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

3:01 I remember seeing that comic in my elementary school library

[@59rlmccormack]

Legends sure was fascinating!

[@thatoneguyinthecomments7809]

Let's all just agree that Luke Skywalker from Legends is one of the greatest Jedi to ever live.

[@Exaris79]

That's why Kyle Katarn was chosen as the Vice Jedi GrandMaster and the BattleMaster by Luke. Kyle Katarn accepted both Light&Dark Side of the Force when he emerged from the Valley of the Jedi.

[@jordonstewart2092]

unlike most people i actually liked dark empire

[@MajinMist603]

Jordon Stewart tbh Disney should have gone this route.

[@krispalermo8133]

Please check out " Crimson Empire."

[@TheStellarmanCo.]

@@MajinMist603 They should of, it would of set everything up Perfectly afterwards

[@jordonstewart2092]

@@MajinMist603 they did it became The rise of skywalker

[@jordonstewart2092]

@@krispalermo8133 i did go kir kanos

[@CadeVonWilkens3117]

The Dark Empire saga is some of my favorite Legends content, so any analysis videos are awesome :).

[@TheJedaiHero9000]

Liked and enjoyed watching another GREAT vid. Keep at it and stay AWESOME.

[@DarrelsWonderland]

Keep up the great content, SWRC!

[@spinelessmoderate8715]

Fear and pretending the dark side wasn't there was ultimately the real failure of the modern Jedi. The dark side technically isn't inherently evil just as the light side technically isn't inherently good. It just happens to make doing evil things easier.

[@christophersandidge8257]

For Ulic Qel-Droma, then. I actually know the broad strokes of of all of this. 99.9 percent of my Star wars books, and comic books, don't have the "legends" label above them. (Yeah. I'm that old) But, it's still nice to hear someone who loves Star wars as much as I do (maybe more) explain plot points, and maybe other subtitles that I missed.

[@jeskerjames2938]

This type of greater understanding of the Force is what I wanted Sequel Trilogy Luke to demonstrate in the films. After 30 years seeing him grasp a larger understanding of the Force in an attempt to create a New Jedi Order that would strive to maintain the balance his father had died to create.

[@TheStellarmanCo.]

Me too, I feel like the new Trilogy is a missed opportunity

[@Lemuel928]

And thus,the Jedi Academy was made.

[@ryansanico6539]

If not for me: "wish Star wars Legends was back in Canon."

[@Orto-jj2di]

*Hello Darkness my old friend. I've come to talk with you again* (fitting music)

[@TerryMcQ79]

I swear you must have played the West End Games RPG.

[@Warhammered]

A good rpg game. Although I do FFG's system now, I actually like the Saga edition Force users that expanded on other traditions besides Sith/Jedi. There was one (I forget the name) that actually allowed for abilities such as Force Lightning as a non Dark-side power, for use by anyone. Like the Je'daii of old, the force is not just black and white. It is simply the 'Whill' of how one uses it.

[@TheXman779]

So did I. In fact the Westcoast game is the reason I've gotten heavily into the expanded universe.

[@BoggiFroggy]

Luke knew one cannot defeat evil if one does not know what evil is.

[@hypersecures]

When Luke used the dark side of the force only to realize how powerful it is

[@briankersey3313]

One often meets their destiny on the path they take to avoid it...

[@DaleESkywalker]

Join me and I will complete your training. I've never heard of that girl...

[@cesarvictoriano8072]

I wish that a spin off would include a recording from Luke referring this, not even needing the palpatine clone part, just Luke discovering these secrets to the dark side.

[@NeidalRuekk]

'Careful you must be when you look upon the Dark Side. For the Dark Side looks back'

[@I86282]

Excellent Video 👍

[@Markis2bi4]

I feel that this was the best end for the Jedi, and not their extinguishment. It easy to get angry at either Sith or Jedi, but in the end even if they both vanished, they would always come back in one name or another, in one form or another. Because regardless of Light or Dark, the Force exists in all things, and will do so forever.

[@robbert9611]

Mace windu understood and reflected on the dark side. That is why he was able to stand up to palpatine.

[@shaggykun712]

Love your vids man keep it up.

[@starwarsreadingclub]

Thank you for watching, it is awesome to hear that you are enjoying them!

[@shaggykun712]

@@starwarsreadingclub No Thank you dude for providing interesting content with more character than ive seen from any other star wars lore channel.

[@thechoicecubansup2201]

The force has always been pure within u 🙏🏾

[@bobbydeuce6486]

They say the darkside is tempting. I always figured it to be something that made you feel powerful. Yet it is usually described as something that sucks you in. However, as a person you don’t have to do bad things to achieve a goal. So I’m going to take something from wheel of time. When a channeller channels saidar or saidin it’s described almost as if it were a drug. It made you feel more alive. And the dark one’s true power he’d allow some of the channellers to touch was even more addictive like heroin. Though I’ve never seen the darkside described in such a way it almost seems like they may be trying to convey it in such a way. Once you start on the darkside it’s hard to stop. Could you not just be a Jedi and throw some force lightning to short circuit a security panel to free some prisoners? Or do you have to be angry and you have to want to hurt somebody to even come close to throwing a bolt of lightning?

[@edwaiwood2416]

Even though Empire was my favorite movie, A Jeidi's Fury was my favorite scene of the whole saga, I used to rewind and rewatch it back in the VHS days.

[@HologramJay]

Why couldn’t we get this version of Luke Skywalker for the sequel trilogy? Would’ve been so interesting.

[@viewernewest]

No good without evil. No light without dark. You can't have one without the other.

[@Halosworld2016]

This guy makes one point and then just repeats himself over and over saying the same thing but in different ways.

[@avondez]

And I still love it for some reason

[@jessenichols9618]

Yup

[@soulbound2]

Ah the art of linguistics truely the enemy

[@JC-zj2is]

You might be confusing him with the “Stupendous Wave” Chanel.

[@Highbrowser]

Stuart Mckenzie The algorithm speaks.

[@khaos5085]

The Jedi Masters used the Darkside but because of how easy it is to lose who you are the Jedi Masters chose to only let trained minds use the Darkside. And the thing is Luke Skywalker lost himself Leia had to bring him back which it is very hard to bring others back to the light.

[@ryanwolf2229]

I really want someone to cover that comic always heard about it but have yet to see it or the book that Luke learns force storm

[@liamdawson7744]

Would love some legend video about Jania and anakin solo

[@masterrserch3971]

That's my favorite part of star wars too... I think, if you're about the same age as I am (I'll be 42 in May, ironically and "luckily" enough, on May 4th, Star Wars Day; that's my birthday! Lol), that scene seems to be the favorite of most of us. Most people I know in my age range love that Vader vs Luke lightsaber duel....I think it's because we were old enough to see it in the theater and really know/understand what was going on, and create a great memory. I DO remember seeing Empire in the theaters, at only 3 years old, but for some reason I only remember BOSK lol...I think maybe I thought he was cool looking, and kinda scary, as I was into that shit my whole life (monsters, horror movies, dinosaurs, etc)...but my 1st REAL memory and great movie theater ex was Return of the Jedi, and especially that final light saber battle.... so amazing, so emotional, great music, and our hero Luke wins... but poor Vader, poor Vader; I remember thinking THAT as well Haha... Hope all is indeed WELL with you too, Non-Canon Expert!

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

As a 90's kid growing up in the prequel era, I'm with ya. I love the real 6 movies but my dad made sure I watched the OT first lol and tried to be in the room when Vader told Luke he was his dad to see my reaction at 4 yo.

[@masterrserch3971]

@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy haha that's awesome... yeah I wish I could find people who have NO IDEA, somehow,,that Vader is Luke's father, so I can make them watch these movies and get their reaction (preferably record their reaction too haha!)

[@qui-gon7519]

Which novel(s) is this from? Would love to read it for myself.

[@qualityautismNoah]

The Dark Empire Trilogy (Comics only) by Tom Veitch (it's "Dark Empire 1", "Dark Empire 2" and the very short "Empire's End")

[@qui-gon7519]

@@qualityautismNoah Thanks mate !

[@CiabanItReal]

I left a like for *Ulic Qel-Droma*

[@SethEssington]

I love this background music

[@SIMONGREYMAN]

CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE NAME OF THE JEDI MASTER MENTIONED IN 5:22 !!!!! CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT PROPERLY!!!!

[@kaidorade1317]

It all just goes to show: there is no good or evil in the Force itself; only how the practitioner wields it

[@seanairlie3147]

Great video

[@smashingpots9928]

I think thats what mace windu believed too. Luke figured out how to use it in teaching jedi.

[@dav2462]

I've been trying to get into these comics, but honestly have no idea where to start. I read some of the old Marvel ones as a boy, and from what I remember they pretty much emulated the movies. Any suggestions as to where I should start?

[@qualityautismNoah]

If you want this Story, read the Dark Empire comic Trilogy by Tom Veitch. It has a sorta sequel Trilogy called Crimson Empire, about one of Palpatines Red Guards. Then there's the series "Legacy" (which plays 130 years after the movies) by John Ostrander and Jan Duursema about the drug addict Bounty Hunter Cade Skywalker. That also has a sequel series called "Legacy Volume 2" by Corinna Bechko and Gabriel Hardmann about the Scavenger Ania Solo.

[@HCBailly]

I wouldn't have a problem with this philosophy, if it weren't for one fact: every single dark side user immediately turns into a mass murderer on the order of billions. Call me crazy, but that sounds like a massive drawback to me.

[@rachelwinter365]

HCBailly that's not actually true. When you research Darth Vectivus, the night sisters of Dathomir, Darth Marr (to an extent as he was a warrior and fought and killed on the battlefield), etc you realize there are many that weren't compelled to be mass murderers . Really the dark side is dangerous when someone is prone to mania, has even a slight amount of problems with impulse control, and isn't completely clear on what they want the power for (that uncertainty can leave people constantly angry at never feeling truly fulfilled and addicted to having even the smallest and most short-sighted win). Basically the dark side isn't completely evil, most just don't have the temperament and mindset to deal with it without losing themselves

[@cceyxx]

So... Luke became the first true space buddhist with force abilities and a lightsaber.

[@1014p]

So like new the emperor was still very much alive. Yea ok and apparently latest movie they fought a corpse of Palpatine? This is where you see the writers just don’t care. Two very contradicting plot points regarding Palpatine.

[@lordsidious666]

Where was this Luke in the sequels?

[@ciscoak9074]

If u understand the darkside isn't a mindful choice like "I choose the darkside". Its more so a emotional state that can overtake ANYONE that will lead u towards dark deeds m actions...im not sure one chooses the darkside rather you let the darkside overtake you according to your emotional state ie. Anger, fear, the feeling of powerlessness ect....this is why anyone can turn to the darkside. Even the most purest best intentioned..its because its not a choice rather an emotional state the leaves u ripe for the darksides taking.. people can make choices be it good or bad or in between..its alot harder to choose your emotions, impossible even..therefore the darkside will always be there waiting for the wrong (or right) jedi to slip up..

[@johntravolta7421]

Yeah when you think you can easily rule the dark side you have a Kyp Durron incident

[@KennyLunacy]

"Think about giving the video a like! If not for MEeeEe..." Lmao.

[@FallenRingbearer]

Basically the whole "fear leads to" mantra. THAT'S why the Old Republic era matters.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Force priestess: "to deny it only gives it powers."

[@macwelch8599]

I wish the Clone Darth Sidious was canon, seducing Jacen Solo to become Darth Caedus

[@leeloolevay]

Interesting it seems who ever you are there is a dark unknown path. You can choose to go a path you know the outcome and sometimes there is a path that has different results. Choosing the dark side in a situation where its kill or be killed may be the only way, my enemies enemy. there is clarity within goodness and evil but switching paths is always the darkest,maybe thats the essence of becoming a sith clouding all judgment. thank you for this video.

[@matthewhall9530]

So in the last Jedi the entire thing with Kylo was him questioning and being fearful of the future was Luke going against what he came to know? It seems like that would have significantly changed what the movie depicts. I’ll admit tho that I haven’t really read much of the Star Wars books to know if this gets explained but that’s my 2 cents.

[@jesse_cole]

"My favorite Star Wars confrontation is the one where Luke faces the Emperor..." Wow... controversial choice there, bro. Next major spoiler: the narrator's favorite wookie from the original films is _Chewbacca._

[@user-re8pd6vm2x]

Now this is the beginning to the path to balance...

[@tonygalvan-wasicki5528]

This is also portrayed in the comic Dark Jedi.

[@majorastorm]

Legends is canon

[@blackshogun272]

Spread the good word...

[@maxawesom3850]

Wow it’s almost like... legends had a way more leveled and mature version/understanding of the force

[@waltersoruco2344]

Can palpatine go to the light side, do you even imagine it?

[@joshpeck9266]

Fear leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to suffering

[@xchaosbladerxop8236]

Legends Luke would destroy Disney Luke 😂😂😂😂

[@Matthew-gb1fk]

XChaosBladerX Op I know right

[@mpalfadel2008]

We are going to have to wait a good ten years or more to see legends realized on screen cause Disney want to try “their own thing” What a waste of time...

[@dewanabrar2676]

Hey guys, Emperor Palpatine here, to understand why one side cannot be defeated, you must think outside the box and realize that you need enemies in order to give you purpose in life. When I was once a Jedi they rejected me and didn't make me a jedi master so I went on a vendetta to end the jedi order but the Skywalker family (yes I am a skywalker as well) will always be spared.

[@deanblue5077]

I would like to see who would win luke or Anakin even though Anakin was the chosen one it wouldn't be so clear cut because he was between world's

[@damarglover6363]

It depends which version of Luke are you using?

[@deanblue5077]

Damar Glover ep 3 luke seems to be the closest to Anakin I say this because he was able to take down vader in a duel

[@damarglover6363]

@@deanblue5077 idk I would give it to anakin he's better trained bought different lightsaber duelist styles Luke's only had to fight Vader's so it would leave him at a disadvantage Luke also is still more inexperienced than using the force compared to Anakin as well

[@deanblue5077]

Damar Glover I see your point but beating vader is no small feet vader changed his whole style to kill Jedi and luke was trained by the greatest Jedi the order had yoda and obi wan for that matter but even though anakin's style was my favorite it would be to hard to say who would win I think luke might win though because his will would be greater

[@damarglover6363]

@@deanblue5077 I think alot of Luke beating Vader is due to 1. Luke building his lightsaber style to counter Vader's and 2. Vader wasn't fighting at a 100 percent due to him internally fighting with himself. I think Anakins more fast pace and acrobatic style might be too much of a change up for rotj Luke but I do believe whoever wins the other person definitely makes them have to work for the win

[@mothercoconuts6765]

This Palpatine was fresh off the printer.

[@venkateshg3171]

Luke as a jedi shadow.. Awesome

[@OddDreams101]

I've been trying to find the books that cover this sequence of events. Does anyone know off the top of their head what the titles are?

[@AlexTheKiller1297]

Dark empire

[@mathieutyler00]

Yes.. start with the thing called Google.

[@OddDreams101]

@@mathieutyler00 Yes google is a hell of a tool but finding a book without the title of the book and only the barest knowledge of the plot is NOT Google's strong point.

[@OddDreams101]

@@AlexTheKiller1297 Thank you.

[@kmthunderheartt6168]

This is the Luke I wanted to see in the sequels. This thinking it what enable his Jedi to get married and have children by always being aware of the dark side and how it effect their lives and them personally with in their selves. Why they just couldn't do a 30th anniversary and just went though and rewrite the EU to bring it more in line with the prequels is beyond me. It would of been much better and less expensive then what they did with Star Wars. Keeping the old characters, revamping the stories, and most importantly keeping the old fans while gaining new ones.

[@emzonik8851]

Well, Dark Empire should've been rewritten, that's true, however I wouldn't really agree with all the post-rotj EU stories being rewritten. I like pre-prequel stories and newer ones having defferent feal to Star Wars but still existing within the same continuity, it makes it mkre interesting. Dark Empire doesn't really fir the Lore, that's why it should've been remade. But the Thrawn trilogy, Jedi Academy, Crimson Empire, New Jedi Order etc, are fine as they are.

[@kmthunderheartt6168]

@@emzonik8851 I can agree to that. The main reason why they would of need to rewrite the EU books, is to add Ahonska and the other characters that would of survived after ROTJ.

[@emzonik8851]

@@kmthunderheartt6168 Actually the fact that those characters play a role in post-Rotj timeline within the New Canon (cos Feloni can't ever let anything of his go xd) doesn't mean they had to to in Legends continuity. Legends Ahsoka for example, was possibly killed within the first months/years of the Galactic Empire, or maybe she simply didn't do anything significant after leaving Anakin in TCW season 5. Same with Cad Bane, captain Rex etx, or some of the prequel characters. Their ansence doesn't really contradict the timeline. The only thing I would've added would be a few short stories, Tales or sth simmilar within the post-prequel timeline, that would've acknowledge the existance of the newer stuff, give any actual connection between the old and the new. For example, Anakin's ghost telling Luke to fimd and burry Ahsoka's remains left somewhere by Vader.

[@kmthunderheartt6168]

@@emzonik8851 True, they could simply said they died. I don't think they would of done it for the money they can make off Ahonka. but that would of been the easiest way to do it. And they would of made much more then what they did if they just went off the EU Books. Definitely a better Luke.

[@emzonik8851]

@@kmthunderheartt6168 Yeah, although basing new movies on the EU books would have been propably hard as hell (to keep it all consistant) and some people would've disliked the Vong arch which is essential in post-GCW period (not that they wouldn't have liked it more than "7-9"). Imo they should've just focused on the spin-offs, like the Old Republic or like they did with Rogue 1 and Solo but in a way that would fit the old lore. Battle of Toprawa was a perfect idea for a movie, that could've been basically the same R1, with a few small tweaks to it. And maybe, if they could find a way to do it without mentioning the post-rotj archs of Luke and the crew - going for Legacy arch with Cade and Krayt (which would still be hard cos Legacy is related to the Vong arch and flashbacks are often shown - imo still managable tho). Nevertheless, for Star Wars it would've been honestly the best if Lucasfilm hadn't been sold, but George Lucas had just retired and have someone else running the stuff under his eye. They would've focused on those spin-offs including video games that were in motion (1313 & Maul clone from Legacy era) and the shows, without any major story that would break the EU. That's actually what George intended circa 2008-2011 before changing his mind and briefly trying to prepare another trilogy only to change his mind yet again and finally sell SW to white slavers. As for real possibilities, I still think reviving Legends continuity through new books and comics (at least at the beginning, later on possibly even games) is a great idea to bring back older fans, who have been alienated for years now.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

This is the real like skywalker. Disney just writes bad fanfiction.

[@wnerko7484]

ive been saying since 93 that dark empire should be a movie.never get that now but an animated movie would be great.and dark lady of the sith.lumiyia storyline from 1984.and a comic inspired animation look

[@charliegenis4228]

Which Legends novels is this in?

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

Dark Empire

[@insanis1805]

There cant be light without dark, and dark without light thats the way it works