The Ultimate STANCE Test: Muay Thai vs MMA Stance

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Jeff Chan MMAShredded

Jeff Chan MMAShredded

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@henryliu518
@henryliu518 3 жыл бұрын
I like the seated stance, where I sit down and watch other people do the fighting
@Candyyycoatedlies
@Candyyycoatedlies 3 жыл бұрын
same
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
haha!
@chrismayclin6397
@chrismayclin6397 3 жыл бұрын
I hate it when I’m trying to get my grocery list from my wife on the phone and some psycho just roundhouse kicks me in the head out of nowhere. So annoying!
@G.pana101
@G.pana101 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@SquashDaBeef
@SquashDaBeef 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@Lucifer_M0rningstar
@Lucifer_M0rningstar 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been muay thai practitioner since I was 8 years old. I'm used to my stance but I tend to mix it up with a boxing and mma stance from time to time. It's always good to change it up. It give you advantages in different out comes
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@kacklerot
@kacklerot Жыл бұрын
💯 agree! Staying in one stance just makes someone more of a robot. Easier to figure out. It's always good to add chaos. That is what a fight is. Chaos.
@ZisisPethanis
@ZisisPethanis 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the pro and cons of both stances might be different in a more "hard" session. For example he wont be able to walk through many hard kicks from your MT stance like that. Now, since you did light sparring, it's easier for him and a a lot less dangerous do go in and out, absorb a kick while entering, and reset. A teep to the face or a hard round to the liver would have made him hesitate a lot more. Same for your MMA stance, it would be a lot different if his low kick were really chopping your leg. I am not saying you must always have a hard spar, (or even too often) but just that some stances, techniques and tactics might work in a semi contact/controlled situation and not the same way in a hard session or match.
@kokos4947
@kokos4947 3 жыл бұрын
True
@jordy4054
@jordy4054 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. Had a harder round (not hard to the head just the body) with my coach and he abused Teeps. Completely took my confidence away to try and box him. Hard Teeps are incredibly effective
@pussyhammer6969
@pussyhammer6969 2 жыл бұрын
True that's the weird thing about sparring.
@dylanhampton6873
@dylanhampton6873 2 жыл бұрын
Mma stance is better in my opinion, but if leg kicks are a threat, either eat it and go for your own shot or switch up the stance and check then go back to the mma
@rhking9678
@rhking9678 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but then in the muy thai stance u can be very easily taken down as u r very narrow. The muy thai stance is great if u have a fantastic bjj game, the best example is Charles Oliveira. I honestly prefer the mma stance as it easier to move with, and I'm less concern about takedowns. But both are greats just depends on the situation :)
@edwhlam
@edwhlam 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on your background. I came from TKD and Judo. The MMA stance just feels more natural. Never got used the MT stance. Also, being a smaller guy, I favour mobility verses checking kicks.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@amklein6206
@amklein6206 3 жыл бұрын
Despite being able to move your head more, you are getting tagged way more with the MMA stance. To me the clear advantage of the MMA stance is to create openings for strikes by feinting TD, and obviously being better able to explode into TD. I don't buy the lower stance being that much better for defending takedowns, Jose Aldo has been stuffing TD at the highest level of MMA out of a MT stance for over a decade. But I also acknowledge his goal is to keep the fight standing not to use his own TD. I prefer the MT stance personally.
@honestlee9921
@honestlee9921 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough each person has their preference both are viable. Not arguing but are you sure Jose Aldo fights out of a Muay Thai stance? I know he predominantly is a striker in mma but I don't feel he stands as tall as alot of the Thai guys do. I'd have to go rewatch some of his fights again to refresh my memory
@mndeg
@mndeg 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff likes to explode forward to strike and kick then dart out which is only possible with his stance which I think is longer than the average mma stance
@gatorboyyy1653
@gatorboyyy1653 Жыл бұрын
Jose Aldo uses some Muay Thai striking with his kicks and knees but his stance is not a traditional Muay Thai stance he’s got like a perfect balance of a Muay Thai and Boxing stance and he’s uses both arts amazingly with excellent takedown defense
@mac1414
@mac1414 Жыл бұрын
Jose Aldo doest not really do the MT stance. In the majority of his fights he uses MMA stance. There were moments when he was close to MT stance, but that's it.
@JimmyTurner-zo9to
@JimmyTurner-zo9to Жыл бұрын
That's because it less defensive he did say he use the muay thai stance for defense
@mrdominox2293
@mrdominox2293 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need a MT stance to teep or kick catch, and you don't need a wide MMA stance for take down defense. A less wide, evenly weighted "MMA stance" gains the benefits of both. You can easily shift your weight from leg to leg, or "float" on one leg (remove the weight from one leg without shifting weight for a quick teep/guard). You can also move in all directions easily as your weight is evenly distributed on both feet, so you don't need to shift weight to move. And if a take down attempt is made you can still sprawl easily.
@I_Might_B_Wrong
@I_Might_B_Wrong 2 жыл бұрын
I've trained Muay Thai for over a decade, but recently doing some Sanda and Boxing which both use a toe/heel alignment type stance that's lower. It resonates when you talk about the Muay Thai stance being a more lazy and laid back stance. In Sanda and Boxing I'm using a lot more energy.
@FiremanKevin
@FiremanKevin 3 жыл бұрын
I’d prefer to spar you with you using MT stance lol. But I think being able to blend styles Is always key. I like MT stance against aggressive KB style fighters. Mainly, as you said because of teep and kick catches from carriage blocks. I feel with more elusive fighters, like you, there has to be a speed match. So tactics have to change to meet that speed and movement. Especially when attack lines are not always linear, but using hard angles
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@PineappledoesnotbelongonPizza2
@PineappledoesnotbelongonPizza2 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the stance you used depended on the distance between you and your opponent.
@alexkehoepwj
@alexkehoepwj 3 жыл бұрын
That was the best phone commercial I've ever seen. I'd love to hear the at&t audio behind that
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahah thanks man!
@edwardrook8146
@edwardrook8146 2 ай бұрын
The squared stance creates SO many more striking opportunities... Bladed stance appears to dull down the action even though it appears to increase power.
@ilyaibrahimovic9842
@ilyaibrahimovic9842 2 жыл бұрын
As a non-fighter and musician, I notice that there's not just different options and advantages to each stance or even a different strategy but a different psychology. Think stance as in someone's stance on some controversial issue. The underlying assumptions and attitude that produce the physical setup we call a stance are different before the physical stances ever appear. Don't know if this helps you at all in understanding what you're doing but thought I'd point it out
@luisdawnfinder3188
@luisdawnfinder3188 3 жыл бұрын
When I'm messing around and sparring my friends I'm usually switching multiple stances around as you can feint different attacks that way and give them a lot to think about. Out of the two stances you showed off, I'd definitely say your MMA stance looks a lot more natural. I know sometimes you do style breakdowns like that one you did about Wonderboy. Just curious if you would consider doing one of Corey Sandhagen? I feel he's an excellent striker who brings a lot of interesting things to the table
@Idk-dr6dk
@Idk-dr6dk 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely sandhagen is a beast and fun to watch
@PrinceOfPalestine
@PrinceOfPalestine 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me alot, realizing my mma stance isnt gonna work in my predominantly kickboxing/muay thai gym, thanks for this
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@NBeaver-bx4yl
@NBeaver-bx4yl 2 жыл бұрын
just wanna say that your fighting style looks awesome. Idk why its just very fluid, fast and accurate.
@jerryberbss4578
@jerryberbss4578 3 жыл бұрын
now that's an ad i would'nt skip
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha !
@thepaladin7816
@thepaladin7816 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are always entertaining 🤘 I like to think it helps to switch between stances for different techniques and movements. I have the same sentiment when it comes to the Muay Thai stance where it's difficult to have quick feet, but it's easier for me to do front round kicks and defend. But the MMA/ablative stance is so much fun because of how fast you become (side kicks!!!) 😄 To reiterate, I think stances can be situational 😅
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you bro!!
@NexusJunisBlue
@NexusJunisBlue 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! Also nice Saenchai style footwork starting at 5:06 lol
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@timsohn7057
@timsohn7057 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff been watching you from beg and I gotta day not only have you improved but you are one of the best strikers I have ever seen period. Was excited back then, still excited to see you keep rising to the top!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you brother!!
@Ratamahata7
@Ratamahata7 3 жыл бұрын
Second round slightly shifted from pronounced mma wide stance towards a less pronounced more mis thai/mma, with saenchai shuffle included (a lot like lerdsila stance). Great post Jeff. Thanks.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!!
@alittlepuertoricanboy1993
@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 Жыл бұрын
I prefer using MMA stance because of the footwork and it's easier for me offensively and evasively, but I tend to eat leg kicks because of it. Vice versa, when I use the Thai stance, my defense is very high, but I have a hard time being offensive and using pressure. Trying to get to a point where I can mix them both up a bit.
@sushant888
@sushant888 3 жыл бұрын
World class content as always brother, i am so thankful that you and your channel exists.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you brother!
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 3 жыл бұрын
I think stances should be dynamic depending on the circumstances Even a side stance may be useful as someone circles to your outside, and you catch them with a side kick or hook kick!
@ninjaman7123
@ninjaman7123 2 жыл бұрын
yknow thats the best way to think about it. You have to adapt and there's not just 1 ''best'' style to use all the time.
@juanantonio192
@juanantonio192 Жыл бұрын
Side stance never works
@davidtran2862
@davidtran2862 3 жыл бұрын
I like using the Muay Thai stance against less experienced grapplers or if the rules are more kickboxing style and not MMA. However, I use the MMA stance for MMA or when sparring wrestlers. I like seeing you mix and match styles when I watch your videos though you have very good transition work I've noticed!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
sweet!
@surimans8825
@surimans8825 Жыл бұрын
As usual, I'm learning a lot from your tips. Thank you! I've been experimenting with mixing up my stances depending on the flow of the fight and my opponent's fighting style.
@Lorendrawn
@Lorendrawn 3 жыл бұрын
Bladed when facing a puncher or a guy who goes for low takedowns, squared and narrow when facing a kicker or a clincher. Regardless of the stance pop the jab and teep frequently and stay balanced :)
@castiel241
@castiel241 3 жыл бұрын
i like using a thai stance if i feel like the person is a bit straight forward aggressive and like using teeps to open them up/get them baiting on teep feints. long guard when i feel like i'm a bit quicker than them and if they're larger than me and try and use dodge/parrying more and a traditional high guard stance as a base.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
nice!
@sym9266
@sym9266 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the physical comedy Jeff! Keep it up, it adds a lot to your videos!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@henning14
@henning14 3 жыл бұрын
On the weekend I was at sparring session with many other fighters (Muay Thai, K1, Boxing, MMA). 20 rounds sparring on the feet. When I occasionally fought a boxer with a more bladed stance I realize that they move in and out quicker. I stayed in my usual Muay Thai stance and tried to make it working because I don’t do Boxing or MMA. Seems like good opportunity to work on cutting corner and stuff like this
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@jordy4054
@jordy4054 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you try the Muay Thai stance again but fighting someone trying to set up takedowns on you. See if you can still sprawl and stuff the takedowns, or get back up quickly enough to still use the Muay Thai stance effectively in the spar
@indigoflow19O
@indigoflow19O 3 жыл бұрын
This is great information, id enjoy seeing this same video but with takedowns involved to see the difference in takedown defense in the Muay Thai stance vs MMA stance when the striking, setups & feints come into play. I think we all know what the results would be, but watching it play out would be informative and entertaining. Who knows might find a surprise within the lesson. Thanks for the great content!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@JLillard5
@JLillard5 Жыл бұрын
Each stance has its strengths and weaknesses but I prefer the MMA stance more because I like to use more boxing. The Muay Thai stance is better if you’re a kicker and defending kicks in general. But the MMA style makes you more unpredictable also if you’re grappling a Muay Thai stance is going to be problematic.
@maenthusiast4209
@maenthusiast4209 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Jeff, it's crazy how fast your reactions are. An interesting video idea could be a theory breakdown, like how you think when you spar and maybe a you could talk about tactics you used to improve. For example I always walk into class with a new technique from your videos and drill them in sparring.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man and good idea!!
@dezdaking
@dezdaking 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the Muay Thai stance but the mma stance is more realistic for a street fight scenario and obviously mixed martial arts.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@briannodwll5423
@briannodwll5423 3 жыл бұрын
@@MR-ld3ry street fighting is something not a lot of ppl like to do but they are forced to. Depending what area u come from.
@IronMikeyT
@IronMikeyT 3 жыл бұрын
@@briannodwll5423 why do mma groupies always talk about "street fights" but say using weapons is for pussies? people get shot and stabbed in street fights and you groupies swear a stance will save you.
@IronMikeyT
@IronMikeyT 3 жыл бұрын
@@briannodwll5423 meeting at the back of the baseball field after school isnt a street fight sonny. sorry to break it to you.
@briannodwll5423
@briannodwll5423 3 жыл бұрын
@@IronMikeyT I live in a place called the north end, winnipeg. Lots of violence and drugs, cops very racist to natives. Idk where u come from but here ur destined to street fight. There's free boxing places to learn to fight. I don't like street fighting cuz anything goes. I avoid it as much as I can but almost every month I'm fighting outside. I just got kicked out of school for fighting and getting charged. Ur to use to talking, u never had to fight for ur life so stop talking. I'll smack u around.
@panosts6178
@panosts6178 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff. Love your videos and your fights . I really like the sideways stance. Think Wonderboy Thompson or Raymond Daniels. Think of this stance as an in-between of the two you mentioned. Sidekicks are even more effective than teeps for blocking incoming blitzes and intercepting your opponents with power and you also have a great boxing base ( for straight punches anyway) and a wide enough stance to stop TDs. It is also great for setting up kicks over the shoulder and for blitzing your opponent with the constant bounce and explosive first step. The cons are that it is really high maintenance and both your leg durability and cardio must be superb to sustain this stance for 5 rounds but it can be done. Also head movement + angle creation are required when using this to properly maintain your distance and create striking opportunities. I have been fighting in point fighting and TKD since I was little and have recently transitioned to full contract kickboxing finding a lot of success against Thai style fighters and pure boxers by using this unusual style . Give it a try sometime. Even if it doesn't fit you it helps knowing how this works fir when you eventually fight a guy that uses a stance like that. Sorry for the long comment, much love.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!! thanks for watching!
@TOrganic
@TOrganic 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on what type of style your opponent have. But I think both style is great.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
definitely! I agree!
@hitman47784
@hitman47784 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can see you’re more comfortable in the MMA stance. For me, I would switch up in stances depending on my opponent. Guess it’s the same for you too.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@TheLim211
@TheLim211 3 ай бұрын
You have more power in your MT stance. You can pity pater in your bladed stance a lot better with not as much power
@38foisjp
@38foisjp 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks jeff! There's an editing mishap at 1:30 though, I'm sure you can fix that easily enough. Sounds like a sound clip is doubled and has delay.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
ahh shoot I dont know what I did there... thanks for pointing it out though!
@paulmoonsami7175
@paulmoonsami7175 3 жыл бұрын
Not too big of a deal.
@justinhicks3322
@justinhicks3322 2 жыл бұрын
Muay Thai. I feel like the stance gives me a better base to absorb blows which allow me to be more agressive at a slow constant pace.
@cjayx
@cjayx 3 жыл бұрын
Personal preference for everyone based on comments. I had an instructor who was a mma fighter, and always wanted me in that stance. It was never for me, so I always stayed up high. It never felt comfortable to keep myself low at punching height.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@gtr5351
@gtr5351 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the breakdown, it was perfect. I generally practice mma more often than muay thai, hence I have the stance that allows me to box also, defend takedowns quickly, and move in and out. What always bothered me in muay thai, that I always get wrecked by very good defensive thai fighters, that don't really engage and keep kicking you from distance and don't use punches much. This video really helped me understand more that if you want to fight muay thai rules, you're gonna have to stick to their stance.
@RickGrimes__
@RickGrimes__ 3 жыл бұрын
There is no one stance,you have to adapt to situation. Its not the strongest one that survives,nor the smartest one but the one who can adapt to change.
@mainvillain8463
@mainvillain8463 3 жыл бұрын
Switching fighting style hmmm thats quite interesting
@mainvillain8463
@mainvillain8463 3 жыл бұрын
@White Obama •90 years ago• WTF 🤣
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
true!
@litlesnoopy
@litlesnoopy 3 жыл бұрын
Just leaving a comment to say thank you for making these super dope videos Jeff! Much respect bro!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for your support!
@officialimpalergerdeathmet810
@officialimpalergerdeathmet810 2 жыл бұрын
Ur videos are Awesome dude. I often try to use some of Ur combinations in shadow boxing or sparring sessions 💪🏿
@wolfhawk1999
@wolfhawk1999 2 жыл бұрын
I generally mix it up in class. When I'm figuring out my partner and working defense, I stay in my Muay Thai stance often. Also I fall back on it when I get tired. When I move in and circle, it's generally a hybrid. When I throw combos, the stance changes pretty organically to a more "MMA" style stance
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@LBKTraceur40
@LBKTraceur40 3 жыл бұрын
I like those switches your throwing from the MMA stance, just appears you have more options in general from this stance.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!!
@marcsalazar2910
@marcsalazar2910 Жыл бұрын
Jeff, I love your vids, man. To answer your question, of course as any educated fighter would tell you, switch it up. Use both. There’s a time to utilize both stances, and as you pointed out, both have their benefits and their flaws. You already mix it up well. You seem to have switched back to the Muay Thai stance at the end of the video. I like to see that. I use a mixture of the two. I guess mine would be considered an MMA stance, but I refuse to stand bladed. I hate the blades stance. It doesn’t feel conducive or natural to me. That’s just my preference and my style I’ve adopted. After watching your vids, you’ve certainly adopted a very beautiful style of your own and I dig it. Btw, I’ve totally stolen a few of your techniques and used them in sparring. Absolute gold. Keep making your videos. They are pure inspiration. 🙏🏽🥊🔥🔥
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded Жыл бұрын
thanks man!!!
@alpd5329
@alpd5329 4 ай бұрын
I lost it when you said "MMA stance"
@bono894
@bono894 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the Muay Thai stance better. When kicks and knees are allowed as they are in MMA, I want to be as tall as possible. I see too much potential for getting kneed or head kicked with a low stance that encourages slipping, bobbing and weaving/ducking in for takedowns. I also see MMA fighters keeping their hands low and relying on head movement. The hand eye coordination needed for that is too risky. I realize with the Muay Thai stance that you’re exposing yourself to takedowns, but I much prefer getting taken down and having to resort to my jiu-jitsu to getting ko’d any day. I’m curious to hear your thoughts about this.
@Brucelee-pv6uf
@Brucelee-pv6uf 2 жыл бұрын
0:25 headmovement 1:05 stance:muaythai stance (tall narrow squared ) 3:05 stance: low wide bladed 4:48 move in out
@efitwithnick
@efitwithnick 3 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown of pros and cons. What do you think about switching between these stances to political your opponent,s style? Shoutout to you and your sparring partner showing how the pace and power level of sparring should be. High-level spars with etiquette. Well done.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@yosigam
@yosigam 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff great video once again. How about this follow up: "Witch stance should i use based on my opponent's style"
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
good idea! thanks bro!
@RKmixer
@RKmixer 3 жыл бұрын
I like that idea
@silasginell9251
@silasginell9251 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet idea i wanna see that too!!
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 3 жыл бұрын
@@MMAShredded would love to see that
@Jurr
@Jurr 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I believe the MMA stance is more versitaile, the Muay Thai stance has something beautiful and elegant to it. Maybe it’s just because I have a thing for it, but it can look so effortless, technical and powerful at once.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
cheers!!
@neilmunro9932
@neilmunro9932 3 жыл бұрын
Your low kicks are a thing of beauty!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@rich_green_9610
@rich_green_9610 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more Muay Thai influenced sparring videos
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
can definitely do that!
@electroice4513
@electroice4513 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a kickboxer and i usually do the MMA stance , but God how many low kicks i receive. I'm willing to switch to a MT stance
@manuelmedrano6819
@manuelmedrano6819 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff, you went from Muay Thai to Dutch Kickboxing. Great choice. Kept your guard, increased your punching agility. Right?
@stevethe5201
@stevethe5201 3 жыл бұрын
depends, use the Muaythai stance whern you want to rely more on kicking teeping and clinching and use the MMA or a more boxing stance when you want to punch, move or defend takedowns. Thai stance takes less energy, easiier to counter and makes the lower body strikes quicker and less telegraphed but the MMA stance takes more conditioning but yields quicker footwork, increased punching power, better head movement and most important the ability to defend take downs. In K1 either the Thai stance or using a combo ( think Raymond deckers) where when you want to kick and counter you do thai stance and when you want to box and wheel you use MMA stance and you use these interchangably thu out the fight.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@jakecastillo2872
@jakecastillo2872 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely mma stance also I'm more comfortable with because of my tkd and karate background
@mainvillain8463
@mainvillain8463 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty good bcoz the bouncing flow
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
sweet!
@joecoonan3931
@joecoonan3931 3 жыл бұрын
I have always alternated between stances, as with my guard placement, being constantly elusive. If I were to say I preferred any of them, it would be the Muay Thai stance, as I have a highly developed teep and front leg kicks, and I am better at defending the legs from there. I also develop much power lunging forward off the back leg with the front leg light like that. But I will always switch. ( I also switch between squaring my feet up and using my hands, or lining them up sideways and using kicks, at times, for the extra speed and evasive ability that doing so lends to the usage of either of those [ punches and kicks] respectively. [ Much like many Karateka do] ).
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
sweet!
@souladaddy608
@souladaddy608 2 жыл бұрын
Was that a superman punch faint at 2:47 to 2:30. It looked awkward as hell lol big fan of the channel, love the content. In no way am I trying to disrespect you. Please keep doing what your doing
@felipe_sousa97
@felipe_sousa97 3 жыл бұрын
For Sanda, a wider stance is a little bit better because it's easier for in and out movements and also is better to defend takedowns, I tried to use the muay thai stance when I was training only kickboxing, but it's weird for me, I'm not that good using lead leg teeps and I can focus better on the fight when I'm light on my feet
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@felipe_sousa97
@felipe_sousa97 3 жыл бұрын
@@MMAShredded thanks for delivering an amazing content for free with us :)
@YeDwaySoe
@YeDwaySoe 3 жыл бұрын
I like MMA stance. You know Jeff. I inspired you and changed my stance since from the last year.. Thanks bro as always...🙏
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks brother :) glad to hear!
@bradpryer
@bradpryer Жыл бұрын
Great video and great explanations! Great channel! Thanks
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@qleap99
@qleap99 Жыл бұрын
Jeff, I noticed that you sometimes lower one guard hand to parry leg/lower body kicks, moreso than Kevin, who doesn't seem to at all and just accepts leg kicks. 2:44 (in Muay Thai stance) 4:07 (successful) 4:40 (in response to a feint) 5:13 5:19 (twice) I trained doing this as well but it was before the rise of MMA so it wasn't as dangerous. I wonder, if you're in a stance or position that isn't conducive to checking kicks with your leg and you can't evade, is it better to attempt low parrying (and risk having your head taken off or your arm damaged) or simply take the shots to the leg. BTW, I prefer using more of an "MMA" type stance.
@chaxologist2024
@chaxologist2024 2 жыл бұрын
Saenchai and Lerdsila's stances are that of a hybrid between Muay Thai and MMA stances. No wonder they are the most evasive Muay Thai fighters tjhrough fantastic head movement and footwork. Their stances and fighting style would work very well for MMA and/or street fighting!
@judomaster3263
@judomaster3263 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, normally the best Muay Thai fighter are those who knows how to box, and have good head movements, good hands and nice footwork, look at somrak( probably the best head movements in Muay Thai) or Samart best pfp, please search those dudes
@az8039
@az8039 3 жыл бұрын
mma stance is also super open to calf kicks though on the lead leg . Really have to switch it up according to the opponents game plan.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
true!
@hectorcervantes2558
@hectorcervantes2558 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people say this about having a light lead foot but a lot of the great defensive boxers box with most of the weight on the rear foot so in reality this should not affect your foot movements when you're in the Muay Thai stance
@dharamjitbiswal3415
@dharamjitbiswal3415 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the mma stance. It helps to circle arround more and be able to hit or enter opponents perimeter more and get out easier. 👍
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!!
@enzocarneiro6748
@enzocarneiro6748 3 жыл бұрын
Muay Thai fighters can also be insanely evasive as seeing by the top level Femeus
@Idk-dr6dk
@Idk-dr6dk 3 жыл бұрын
@ZENJI GAMING so if I was competing in mma would you recommend also training in the muay thai stance? Do you feel it would help me develop better kicks/knees that I can then transfer over to my mma stance?
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur Жыл бұрын
So in other worlds, it's good to learn both and mix it up when needed.
@shaminoranger
@shaminoranger 3 жыл бұрын
Nice double roundhouse at 4:34. I know it's not a high percentage move but it's fun isn't it? The way the first kick kinda bounces back to load into a more powerful second kick.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
definitely fun! haha
@ramseymodiri2752
@ramseymodiri2752 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use the 50 50 Muay Thai stance in mma? Square, still tallish, not as wide. I think Jorge Mas, Khalil round tree, and Jose Aldo use it. Seems good for checking calf kicks but less dangerous than the light lead leg Thai stance
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes but im not very great at it!
@wolfkingt
@wolfkingt Жыл бұрын
Since it's not your primary stance I'd like to see you use the muay thai stance a little more. I seen that even in your muay thai stance you still revert back to your MMA stance.
@jacobandrews4867
@jacobandrews4867 3 жыл бұрын
I like the consecutive switches to set different things up. Slick
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@jaytindall6843
@jaytindall6843 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff I have almost all of your programs and in sparring I will use a lot of combos from you tactics and defenses. My favorite combo is the dart in cross with low kick and I land it every time unless I’m too slow. I have also tried different style stances and mma suits every technique to an extent. I like to throw lead leg techniques like lead Rh or side kick or front kick and teep and sometimes I feel the stance hinders them so when I do throw them I’ll shorten the stance to pull them off. But for everything else ( mma stance is probably the best for all around different techniques) thanks Jeff
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
sweet man im glad to hear that! I love the cross double step low kick as well, def my favourite! Keep it up bro!
@jayceeinvincible
@jayceeinvincible 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the MMA Stance my bro. Love that slick and smooth movement 🔥🥊🔥
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thx jaycee!
@jayhawk522
@jayhawk522 3 жыл бұрын
The stance comparison aside, I honestly LOVE your ad concept Jeff. I would watch it on a loop actually. 😂 It also shows how dangerous the world can be now. Any guy can just randomly tackle you while you're texting. But as long as you got that hard cover, you're Good. 🤣 Great video as Always!!!🔥
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@treroney4720
@treroney4720 3 жыл бұрын
I like to modify my stance depending on who I’m fighting. If I know I’m going to use a division one wrestler I’ll keep my hands low and my feet far apart. If I’m fighting an A class fighter from Thailand I keep my leg angled so I can check kicks. It’s completely situational to my opponent.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@noahcastillo6771
@noahcastillo6771 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone should approach it that way it’s good to keep in mind when you don’t have a set style to just be more versatile instead
@lellugamer9468
@lellugamer9468 Жыл бұрын
In my muay thai gym my coach prefers stance that is more like the mma stance in this video bc it’s easier to move and strike and also your back leg is always ready to fire
@wormwud
@wormwud 3 жыл бұрын
Best ad for a phone case
@jeremyg591
@jeremyg591 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I've been replicating a lot of your videos (or trying to) and this video will definitely help me have a more consistent stance!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@juhel5531
@juhel5531 Жыл бұрын
This dude doesn't have one hit KO power but I bet he totally has that in mind when making strategies and doing film studies. I wonder if we'll ever have videos about KO centric styles? I myself never had KO power but was able to develop body shot KO power through torque and learning to really dig in bodyshots so I wanna learn more. Things like learning how to add power to the lead hook by pulling the power hand back WITHOUT exposing yourself, or learning kick dexterity since your legs are so strong that a slap with your instep is already a KO shot if you have good accuracy. Strategies with a KO threat just work so much better. You don't even have to go for the KO just as long as that KO is always a threat, it forces your opponent to compensate the same way that muay thai fighters have to have an entire stance built around nullifying the power roundhouse kick. Even if you barely throw that move, the plethora of adjustments to it will net you a positive.
@VRBOXING
@VRBOXING 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, in your muay thai stance, i think you don't use your knee enough and that's why he's able to change level and close in. It's not really a question of stance but timing with the knee to the body. Knee to the body is used most of the time, especially for tanks opponents wanting to go in fight. But for sure, i understand you are much more mobile with your mma stance (mostly because you are light, young and fast :) ) Anyway, thanks again for your awesome content. Always a pleasure to hear from you.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers bro!!
@funkyboodah
@funkyboodah 2 жыл бұрын
the phone case bit was AMAZING 🤣🤣🤣
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@isaiahkenny3544
@isaiahkenny3544 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the tips Champ 🏆!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
no prob!
@alloverdaplace2043
@alloverdaplace2043 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a muay thai guy but realistically I understand the style has to change depending on the situation
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@degiguess
@degiguess 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the Muay Thai stance. It has it's draw backs but the main thing with it for me is how easily you can throw out teeps, I love the mobility and versatility of the MMA stance but for me personally those easy teeps are just too useful a tool to pass up.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@closeredge5198
@closeredge5198 3 жыл бұрын
I stay in the Thai stance, as my style is balanced and evasive, countering shots technically.... MMA stance has benefits, but I also think it tends to favor those who are less relaxed in their movements
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@merlinfanclub9860
@merlinfanclub9860 3 жыл бұрын
better stance is the one you master better. There's no such a thing as a better stance for everyone, every stance has limitations and strengths
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 2 жыл бұрын
MMA stance is better obviously because it's more universal. You can shoot in and all that good stuff. But you seem too used to Muay Thai and you need a lot of grappling experience to learn how to use the MMA stance well. So it's up to you. Do you want to learn how to wrestle? It takes a long long time but its up to you in the end.
@kitsuneyo967
@kitsuneyo967 3 жыл бұрын
I personally really like the shorter stance, and I love clinch work, so I use that to compliment its weaknesses. I still use a wider stance a lot though, as do a lot of muay thai/kickboxing fighters. I just know, when take downs aren't a constant threat, you better be ready to check a kick.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@kitsuneyo967
@kitsuneyo967 3 жыл бұрын
@@MMAShredded always love the vids my man 👌
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 3 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically I prefer the muay thai stance but not sure it's the most practical stance for mma - you have good access to throws from the Thai clinch but obviously sacrifice the ability to blast a single or double leg with as much fluidity. You also lose a lot of mobility but then I suppose it's hard to say from a light sparring session because your partner can just walk through those teeps without worrying about taking damage, whereas in a match you'd expect him to have more respect for it as he tries to close the distance.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
trur!
@thomastob9375
@thomastob9375 3 жыл бұрын
I practice Muay Thai first than only MMA . I always think that in sparring with the MMA stance will get kick and knee in the face easily . After watching so many of your video and realizing that's not the case.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers !!
@tuenmunki
@tuenmunki 3 жыл бұрын
MMA Stance is better than using teep to check the distance. This stance can easy to move in and out, especially step back with head movement. But in the rope, fence, the teep can easy to keep distance and defence. The stance depends on where you are at the ring.
@ffnovice7
@ffnovice7 3 жыл бұрын
0:21 - 1:00 Caseify must have been the most fun sponsor!
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
yes :)
@jontygardner
@jontygardner 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff! Can you please do another 'Best tactics' or breakdown video of Alexander Volkanovski? Feel like he has a lot of new ones he has adopted and utilised since May 2020 when you made a video on him :)
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
ill see what I can do!
@notjay9794
@notjay9794 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like your style of Muay Thai is a bit different to how they teach here in Aus where I'm from. Over here they teach to always keep your weight centred between both legs so you can check with the rear leg as well as be able to move more explosively with your strikes. Muay Thai is very popular here with a lot of trainers being ex Thai fighters
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@Indacut4545
@Indacut4545 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say,that mma stance looks a lot more my boxing stance.Like you said,helps you get in and out(or in my case just in lol),and gives you more power
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@synysterallen
@synysterallen 3 жыл бұрын
I was/am currently taught to stay 50/50 in my muay thai stance, at my gym we do change the distribution for checking and what not but its not the default/main stance distribution. I'm probably wrong lol, but I feel like maybe your muaythai stance feels better defensively than offensively because your stance is back heavy more often than it could be.
@simonyu8838
@simonyu8838 3 жыл бұрын
That's common. Muay Thai still has the traditional stance for a defensive posture but many fighters use a more balanced stance too
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
true!!
@vagabond4576
@vagabond4576 3 жыл бұрын
The cons with the MMA stance even though its more balanced is exposing the leg. Other than some of my other martial arts. I mainly used a boxing stance similar to the MMA stance you have. When I went to one of the Muay Thai gyms. Even though my sparring partner was an ass and went 100 percent instead of 15 percent that the coach said. I learned a valuable lesson on not exposing the leg to a very strong Thai kick and an easy slam or dump. Not all Muay Thai stances are the same though either.Weight on the rear leg is more commercial and used mostly against a foreigner. But when Thais fight against each other seriously, they have more of a modified boxing stance where the weight is distributed evenly and never using the weight on the rear leg throughout the whole time. The other stance is the more squared stance even though its more exposed on the body. Power is almost even and hits are more unpredictable. But the weight on back foot stance is seldom used and over commercialized by movies and video games. While sparring is the most realistic next to fighting its a double edge sword of confidence and false confidence. You rarely see anybody unless its a street fight. Go all out with that much tempo. It reminds me of people that are good at paintball or airsoft that can beat military guys wont translate to a real fire fight when shit hits the fan.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 3 жыл бұрын
cheers!
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