The weirdest bottom bracket I have ever seen.

[@Hambini]

If Jake is worried about bearing noise, the solution to this is to order a Hambini BB with Full Contacting Seals. It says on the website, "If riding in inclement weather, full seals are recommended". it's a no cost option and plenty of people do specify this when they buy them. But doing so increases drag and then people will complain that their spin tests are garbage.

[@phil_d]

But, the question is: Is a free spinning NCS NTN with external sealing provided by the BB design better than a FCS NTN?

[@DDai-qd8uk]

Why didn't he just replace the bearings with full contact ntn bearings when the originals wore out?

[@wsbygt]

Or: (wait for it) Swap the bearings to LLU series when you often ride on harsh weather.

[@phil_d]

@@wsbygt What a PITA!

[@oftankoftan]

@@DDai-qd8uk because he's young and doesn't read instructions. we've all been there.

[@PeakTorque]

Whilst id say this is completely unnecessary, that tapered ring is really clever. Threaded components are never concentric, but this tapered part may help to align the two halves. However if your plastic shimano BB is not quite concentric some would argue that shoving a steel 24mm axle through it helps it out 😂

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@@PeakTorque NPT pipe threading is tapered, concentric, and ubiquitous!

[@tombolo22]

Best, and most authentic, cycling tech channel. Thanks Paul

[@Mapdec]

Thank you. 🙏

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Ya, this is quickly becoming a favorite.

[@hifiandmtb]

Jake is a joy to watch on camera, he’s eloquently relaxed.

[@Mapdec]

Thank you for that. I hope he will make a great presenter on the channel.

[@thomaskuhn6541]

Amazing, a company that doesn't force you to pay extra for the proprietary tool for their BB. But I guess for 399 it would have been in rather poor taste not to include it.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

You mean the metal hockey puck with a $16 dollar retail value? Which wholesales for $8 and has a manufacturing cost of $4 including tools and materials... Ya they they can give you the 1% discount on the BB to include the proprietary tool. Though i find proprietary tools to be quite troublesome forshadowing without really good explanation for why they have done it. Im not in the market for a $400 BB, so this doesnt effect me. But even if a company had the best BB in the range i am looking ($200), I wouldnt consider one with proprietary tooling... Ive watched Apple for far to long to drink that coolaid.

[@rosomak8244]

You pay for it in the initial price.

[@Pmor75]

Kudos to the fact that you guys are going to do a proper long term test of BB. Looking forward for the results👍👍

[@marcelmontagnelascaris-com2840]

I just got my Bikone BB, thanks to watching these videos, and it's a thing of beauty. Will geek out afterwork today and ride it tomorrow with the club.

[@sabamacx]

How is it?

[@marcelmontagnelascaris-com2840]

@@sabamacx the best I have had so far, including Shimano, Hope, Ingrid Components, Kogel... I wanted a Hambini, now I don't...

[@martinb9032]

I'm fairly new to the channel. In fact I'm fairly new to road cycling but am now completely hooked lol. And at 43 and a lifetime mountain biker I feel like a new world has opened up. I love how expert u are at the technical maintenance. I'm no stranger to building bikes but ur knowledge is really eye opening. I'm currently riding a specialized allez race I got used with 105 on it. I love it but I really aspire to that black look bike 😍. I never knew the world of bottom brackets was so vast 😅

[@Mapdec]

Thank you. Bike bearings and BB is a vast and deep dark hole that scares the pants off me.

[@chickbells]

I bought a Bikone BB86/92 after your last video on them and the quality is incredible for about £85 delivered.

[@Mapdec]

Nice one! Keep in touch with its durability.

[@chickbells]

@@Mapdec Five months in and it's wrecked. The bearings are shot on both sides. Now, to be totally fair to Bikone I am not a professional mechanic and I did have to fettle the BB openings on both sides a little bit (Canyon Lux World Cup). But I installed them using a proper press and the post-install spin was absolutely lovely.

[@Mapdec]

@@chickbells what killed them? Rust or wear?

[@chickbells]

@ seems to be wear. I haven’t done intergalactic mileage on them. Less than 500, I’d guess. I can send the BB to you if you want to take a look (as long as I get it back).

[@davidmason1919]

Love this kind of content, I’ve learned so much and now I wouldn’t take my bike anywhere else 👍

[@carl90210]

The answer to any problem in life is a Hambini bottom bracket 🤣

[@truthseeker8483]

😁

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Idk. The enduro max hit stainless press fit BB is looking pretty sexy.

[@deanf2259]

@@brandonhoffman4712 I had the DUB max hit BSA version in my Genesis CdF Ti. It excellent and very sexy as a added bonus. I would highly recommend.

[@tornagawn]

Looks to be well designed with lots of seals and takes into account minor frame imperfections. Nice.

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

It's absolutely interesting what you can get for what I received when paying the same amount for a Ceramic Speed bottom bracket on a Specialized S-Works 2013 Roubaix. It came with that setup but I switched out to a QUARQ Kiren power meter. Several years later, I put the original BB in with ceramic bearings. Massive difference.

[@joehart3826]

Square taper is back - let's celebrate!

[@Mapdec]

Who would have thought it would be like this

[@markrushton1516]

For some of us it never went away

[@Xibalba28]

We always come full circle! Triple chainring cranks are next!

[@KNURKonesur]

@@Xibalba28 and handlebar end shifters

[@ebikescrapper3925]

External cable routing next

[@bradallen8643]

That’s a nice bit of kit. The concentric tapered ring looks like a good idea for alignment

[@dakalla]

If you look for a more affordable BB, try a First components BB. I have two of them in use, both are well made, spin really easy and also are surprisingly durable. After 2 years my ultra race gravel / winter bike is still spinning like new, no sounds, no resistance despite lots of bad weather use. Its T47 in a Standert steel frame, came as oem BB and the other i put in a Cervelo Soloist (T47a, 77mm, bbright). It's sealed TPI bearings in it. Seem to hold up way better than all shimano, sram BBs or endura bearings i knew before.

[@sabamacx]

I replaced all my Wera torque wrenches with better (and cheaper!) Tohnichi ones --- they are what factories in Japan use.

[@Mapdec]

Thanks for the tip. I am buying a few to find the ones I like best.

[@seitenryu6844]

​@@MapdecStahlwille Manoskop Quick. No resetting, cal lasts ages, built like a tank. Click is loud. Fastest to change setting of any design. Replaceable heads. CCW same tolerance.

[@DanTuber]

i'll stick with my plastic shimano bb. No crazy impressive spin test but it just works.

[@jamble7k]

they also weigh about 50% less 😂 400 euros for this joke

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

They're great, until they're not. So far I've got one that's starting to creak vs 2 others that are (so far) OK. Not sure yet on the replacement but since I wrench on 'em myself I'll try some cheaper BB's before caving-in for something expensive like this or Hambini. Sometimes ya can get away with a cheaper fix...and you can always bite-the-bullet in the end and go high-end/big $$ if not.

[@TheChindoboi]

399 pounds. Yikes. Suddenly my stock Shimano BB seems like a bargain! Very bling❤

[@soapowejazz]

Pog would have won the tour on a square taper

[@laneromel5667]

He would have won on a steel bike.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

With no butting

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

On that note, an engineer for a well-known component company told me at a trade show about their field tester's response to their first move away from square taper. They told the test riders nothing and they came back reporting nothing, but when they told them of the increased stiffness, blah, blah of this new system...they came back raving about what an improvement it was!

[@austinbrough7327]

What lovely looking bits of engineering. I was bracing myself for the price - and wasn't disappointed 😂

[@wsbygt]

Love bearings and tyres talk..!

[@johnballesta2544]

The 2.5-25nm Wera never clicked on my FD cable fixing bolt, it let me strip it. I had a feeling it was too tight but I trusted the tool.

[@dmlopezleon]

A simple vista tiene una calidad impresionante y su mecanizado parece de muy buena calidad. Me parece que BBinfinite tiene algo parecido. Yo tuve un BBinfinite para campagnolo, pero tuve problemas con el margen de holgura lateral que trae, lo solucione con una arandela de pvc que corregía esa holgura. Enhorabuena por el video, nos da a conocer los componentes que solucionan muchas fallas en los cuadros de hoy en día.

[@Mapdec]

🙏

[@paulosh0w829]

Ball bearings positionned one to the other inside one piece (the blue shell) which is mounted on the bike. This is the only solution to get a very smooth cranckset with threaded frames. It is square tapper and JIS cranckshafts but better because of wider bearings with T47. This architecture would also work with non threaded frames. One piece to hold and align bearings, inserted in the frame until a shoulder and on the other side a nut to keep it in place. Like a big hollow screw. From my point of view the gold one showed here is not a solution because there is still two independant piece holding each bearing. Also the centering at the center create a situation of hyperstatism when the assembly is mounted into the frame.

[@paulosh0w829]

Oh I just discovered that "a big brain guy" from Colnago brought us a new standard for BB, T45, really ? Did they know about T47 ?!

[@adamcoppock5018]

Nice take on BBs. I have wondered how many watts one cound save if the BB, chain, gears and jockey wheels rolled as smooth as possible.

[@Mapdec]

A small handful of

[@valmorell]

Never thought I would see the day when a BB cost 400 quid. How nieve was I 😮

[@Mapdec]

I know. You can get cars that cost more than a Million quid now too.

[@markrushton1516]

Who knew pushbikes would cost more than a high end motorcycle?

[@Mapdec]

@@markrushton1516 ahh. A mid range motorcycle. Things get very spicy at the top end of any sport. Have you seen the price of a competition fishing rod.

[@joehart3826]

Be interesting to see what Hambini says on the worn NTN noise.

[@Mapdec]

We have emailed about it. He just shrugs it off as corrosion.

[@Hambini]

The solution to this is to order one with Full Contacting Seals. It says on the website, "If riding in inclement weather, full seals are recommended". it's a no cost option and plenty of people do specify this when they buy them. The penalty is frictional drag.

[@philipegoulet448]

@@MapdecYou clearly know you need to run the seals for these bearings. Why did you assume hambini ones would magically not require seals? Pin his comment, admit its a user mistake ( ran no seals in bad weather ) and move on! Still enjoyed the video, but the digs at hambini was weird!

[@Mapdec]

@@philipegoulet448 ah. We are well aware. We have lots of customers running these. We even had one go back to him. It’s just a known thing. His BB don’t have any sealing beyond that of the actual bearing seals.

[@philipegoulet448]

@@Mapdec @Mapdec Then why not say that in the video instead of saying 'we dont run seals, the bearing got fucked, it sucks'? Maybe I'm just slow? 😅 Thank you for replying regardless!

[@Ryan_Odyssey]

I went through three bearing sets on a Hambini BB. I bought it when he started selling them so saved quite a bit versus what they cost now. Best luck I had was with some LLU Timken bearings in the Hambini BB...but water still gets to the bearings with the design. Not riding in rain is impossible during the summer here in Florida. Hambini BB went with the old bike. I'm trying a Mortop BSA on my new bike right now with angle contact bearings and quite like it even though it's no less waterproof... I think angular contact bearings may be the way to go for longevity..

[@Mapdec]

Oh man. I thought Florida was the dream sunshine. You should try some stainless steal bearings or the Enduro XD15. They are best for corrosion resistance if that’s the first cause of failure for you. The downside is that they can gall up, but it takes a pretty heavy load and a lack of grease for that to happen. I have some Mortop bearings on test. Watch this space.

[@Ryan_Odyssey]

@@Mapdec Luckily it's not the kind of all-day drear you guys get. The joke is we only have to wait 30 minutes and it's back to sunshine, but you can almost guarantee a shower in the afternoon during late summer. It is common for afternoon thunderstorms this time of year from the convergence of cool air off the ocean and warmer land air creating thunderstorms, but they dissipate quickly. Sunny all morning, afternoon drizzle, sunny sunset. I'll definitely give some stainless bearings a try now that you mention it. Corrosion is a problem with bikes here from salty air.

[@nadsim154]

For the same price of a hambini one (yeah it is around the same price when you take the real price of the hambini bb with all the taxes not included), for sure it will be a lot better...

[@rgpeters]

Plus hambini is just a bearings sales person up in the midlands, selling you over priced bearings from the shop he works at, just give the shop a call, he may answer the phone ;)

[@markrushton1516]

​@@rgpeters I think he actually imports them.

[@jeffbrunton3291]

Hambini bb is fine, he recommends different bearings if you want better sealing. NTN race bearings have very little sealing for minimum drag

[@tommays56]

Well Done episode So now 4000 miles in 8 months on the TIME FSA still spinning perfectly 4iiii left side power meter has been great I like the location tracking JUST turn off the leaving behind notifications as it crushes the battery life

[@Mapdec]

Good info. Thank you.

[@keithevans5667]

Watched over breakfast....😂 beats world news any day. Nothing better than sexy bottom brackets ❤

[@Mapdec]

Sunken yachts, trump or war vs bottom brackets. I’m with you.

[@GHinWI]

That T47 goes together kind of like an old square taper BB

[@chriswhite5665]

On that CX bike with mis-matched cranks, you can add some pedal washers between the Ultegra LH crank and pedal to make the Q-factor match the RH GRX crank. Or adjust your cleats accordingly, but I prefer the pedal washer method.

[@Mapdec]

the 4iiii cranks only take a few days, good idea though. thanks

[@chriswhite5665]

@@Mapdec I know about this because I used a LH Ultegra Stages crank with a RH GRX crank for a while on my own bike.

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

Fantastic channel. Like Bambini, but without the hate.

[@medova123]

Nice video... great content and nice people you've got around. (But @16:59 I couldn't watch - really looked like that hex is now more round than hex)

[@Mapdec]

It’s a wera hex. It has a different profile to get bite. Great hex keys. The best.

[@weatheranddarkness]

Ahhhhh, this is like the Octalink BBs!

[@global_nomad.]

interesting comment about the NTN bearings....my wheel bearings (hyper wheels) were replaced a few months ago with NTN ones and have been making horrible noises but running ok..one bike for everything

[@Mapdec]

Yeah. They really don’t stand up to any kind of wet conditions. The full contact ones are better, but then drag. There are better options.

[@mcspikesky]

About 5 Wera torque wrenches got binned at work this year because they failed calibration on repeatability. Couldnt be adjusted. Gash.

[@richcole3931]

I'd be interested to hear more about the Wera safe-torque wrench if you get a chance. Was considering one, but it sounds like it doesn't live up to its precision safety claims.

[@Mapdec]

All of them have broken, and you wrap your knuckles as it slips. It’s really unnerving.

[@richcole3931]

@@Mapdec thanks!

[@iansingleton]

£400 for a BB??? To be ridden in the UK? 😂😂😂😂 More money than sense some folk! Just run a Shimano BB on oil instead of grease (if You're racing) and swap it every 3 months, you might lose 1watt and you're still laughing all the way to the bank.

[@Mapdec]

It’s ok to like nice things. Have you seen the price of designer shoes?

[@iansingleton]

@@Mapdec yeh I don't wear those either! 😂 Or designer jeans! Yes you're right. It's nice to have nice things. If you have the money and want it, go for it, why not? Life is for living money is for spending. But, if someone is buying them believing in a benefit gain, it's rubbish.

[@SingaporeUntold]

Exactly 😂

[@Manetty6]

So, U R tellin me, that, I buy 10 million pound, top of the line frame and if I don't want any trouble I'd better buy a 1 million pound bottom bracket. Such a bargain!

[@Mapdec]

No. If you have watched our other videos I show you how to avoid ‘trouble’ by preparing your frame and choosing the best BB solution to your frame and crank config. This is pure podium position performance engineering for no other reason than to make something as good as possible. Humans are a very driven species.

[@gabiology77]

What should he do with this BB? It's obvious that he is in love with it :) Maybe I would go with it to spintest masses.

[@Panos_Sfa_Gr]

Nice video and great channel. I have the Cube Agree c:62 (2022) with sram force groupset - pressfit bb ..can you suggest me an alternative not exotic expensive reliable pf bb for my bike? If possible a specific code and brand

[@Mapdec]

This is a really awkward size combo with no great answer. I would keep with the SRAM ones for now, but we are evaluating a MORTOP one.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

I’ve had great luck with the Rotor PF4129. It has twin rows of bearings in each cup. About $60 and works just fine. I’m running dub with BB86 - which is just about the worst modern crank/BB combination there is. The good news is that my Giant Revolt BB hole is surprisingly accurate. I use a cheap bearing press kit from Amazon and medium strength Vibratite.

[@kalijasin]

Interesting!

[@galenkehler]

The real key to a BB is the breaking replacement, and these BB don't list the replacement bearing size. That's a red flag

[@Mapdec]

It’s a 6805

[@veggiechowder8877]

Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay, but they're cool

[@glennoc8585]

That's true but sometimes people pay for things for a genuine reason with no choice as they essentially need it.

[@theillegalimmigrant9314]

I got a Hambini SRI BB for a third of that price and it comes with full weather sealing for my gravel bike.

[@Mapdec]

Where do you think the weather sealing is?

[@theillegalimmigrant9314]

@@Mapdec it's in the bearing. I've used his BB's for a long time and swear by them. Any bikes that I ride in rain have LLU bearings installed. I have had no problems. Jake's comments are puzzling, a mechanic should know some basics about bearings.

[@Mapdec]

@@theillegalimmigrant9314 he knows about bearings. He’s a good mechanic. No need for that. Remember he fits a dozen bearings like these a week.

[@allemyr]

@@Mapdecyes but you should help him emphasize his point that he knows that highend bearings needs a close service intervals. You give Hambini bad reputation this video. It maybe helps your youtubechannel but this kind of missleading is why I stopped watching this channel. Could really be about any topic.

[@Mapdec]

@@allemyr I gave Hambini a bad reputation…. You mean I told the truth to my viewers. Man. You get shot if you promote something and you get shot if you tell the truth.

[@thedronescene7474]

BB Infinite was the creator of the one piece BB and they ALWAYS include the cups to push the BB in. Also way cheaper than Hambini, this one you just showed and many more.

[@Mapdec]

Yes. We use their stuff from time to time. Many examples on the channel. They do the best campy solutions

[@thedronescene7474]

@@Mapdec Yeah :)

[@rattila13]

@@Mapdec They have a BB with this design and so far that was the only one of their products that was disappointing. The non-drive centering cup is plastic and it backs out, and then it starts to creak.

[@petersevcik7159]

I have the same problem mine

[@berry5954]

So this is how it works: For years you test bottom brackets, grease, different bearings. Then you buy Hambini BB for all your bikes. Race of course, who wants drag. You mount it. A few years later you see BB video on youtube. Which BB standard do I have again? When did I check my BBs the last time for grease, rust, water, dust, damage? Dunno.. Which drawer are all my BB tools. Ehhm.. F- it. Spintest.. Hmm they spin better than when I got them en filmed them. play? 0.00 Ok let's check again in 2027.. unless you have a BB fetish (like I used to have, and have a drawer full of all brands...) Just mount the Hambini and be done, for years..

[@Mapdec]

Until it rusts. But that’s the next video.

[@berry5954]

@@Mapdec How? I would need to ride it submerged in sea water. No water has come into any of my bb bearings in the last 3 years. I don't even have the full contact seals (and yes I don't have "winter bikes" and even the road bikes are ridden on gravel and dirt). they survived the Strade with 0 issues.

[@cccpkingu]

Chances of running into another proprietary adapter to remove your BB when you need it, or the one you had, somewhere …

[@Kanonka28]

Where is the place for motor ?

[@Mapdec]

Jake did go looking for it 😂

[@askcyc]

BBinfinite Started this T47 Design a couple of years ago , Can you please review thier version of One piece t47?

[@Mapdec]

Maybe. We only buy BBinfinate when they are the only supplier of a solution.

[@standardannonymousguy]

I am curious about width and carbon fiber cranks. For an in-town commuter, I'm running horizontal rear dropouts which limits me to 68mm threaded squate taper style bottom brackets. It would be great to upgrade to carbon fiber 2 piece cranksets, but increasing the Q Factor (stance width) is a deal breaker. Am I overlooking any other alternatives. Could the Pogačar's BB work woth a basic square taper bb size frame like mine?

[@Mapdec]

This design is unique to T47 frames. There are problay a few ways to achieve carbon cranks on a narrow stance. Might need a bit of digging areound the niche brands though.

[@Viamscience]

Henry seems a terribly nice chap. Who would likely rip my legs off.

[@Mapdec]

Sounds like you know him

[@markrushton1516]

Anything odd about these apart from the tool? Specific/custom bearings? Is that a power meter shown on the Bikone website?

[@Mapdec]

Not really. Standard size bearings. I most innovative thing is probably the preload system.

[@tednruth453]

How much ? 😮

[@bengt_axle]

So that's why Pogi can ride up an 8% grade at 28 kph for an hour, effortlessly.

[@_Zane__]

Imagine if he had ceramic bearings 😮

[@StopTheRot]

@@_Zane__he’d be slower

[@laxplaysu91]

Nothing beats BBInfinite

[@Eirikkinserdal]

This is just like their t47 design 🤔

[@Mapdec]

Kinda. The Bikone has the delrin cone, the top hats that accept additional seal if you choose and the carbon preload tube.

[@Eirikkinserdal]

But both of these will keep it from coming undone?

[@Mapdec]

@@Eirikkinserdal undone? Why would anything come undone?

[@Eirikkinserdal]

Regular t47 as you pedal against the way it's treaded?

[@RBlakemore]

Hi Paul, when it comes to BB386, what BBs have you had good results with?

[@Mapdec]

We mostly fit Rotor or SRAM here. BBinfinate for when pockets or need demand. Just experimenting with BikOne for now.

[@appelflapdrol]

Kinda annoying you need a special tool??? I would almost order the bb solely to justify getting to add another piece to the tool wall

[@johningham1880]

Reminds me of kitchen waste water fittings

[@Mapdec]

Ok

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

When the UAE is footing the bill go for it 😂

[@carl90210]

Arab cash won’t spend itself 😀

[@Mapdec]

😂

[@RubielRodriguez-w1i]

If you get Dropped, you will get dropped regardless what BB your bike has. Standard seal bearings will spin better than ceramic bearing six months down the road

[@atgnicyclist]

What torque wrenches do you use please?

[@Mapdec]

Mostly wera x2 and x3. These safe torque ones are rubbish

[@cccpkingu]

Professional gear is expensive. The info on how to hold a torque wrench next to a bike mechanic is gratis, but more valuable.

[@cccpkingu]

Yes, even an adjustable wrench can be used the wrong way. When they say the prisons are too full I disagree.

[@cccpkingu]

And now I noticed why everyone is doing it.

[@gonewiththewheels8424]

WOW, that's a lot of ££££ for a BB :) Good spinning, though !!

[@laneromel5667]

When you have 10's of thousands of dollars riding on thousands of a second after a 300 km race, the BB is economical.

[@Mapdec]

Right on the sharp edge of marginal gains.

[@kiliBrtoiP]

interesting. which one to get for BB86 with Dub?

[@Mapdec]

Oh. Troublesome. We have a special vid on that coming up.

[@kiliBrtoiP]

@@Mapdec once again Mapec delivers, can't wait.

[@SeraStaplz]

Jesus fast cuts, I'm actually nauseous. The transitions get more screen time than some of the things being shown.

[@JeanFrancoisDesrosiers]

I think the GRX and Ultegra crankarms (left/ right) do not have the same Q factor.

[@Mapdec]

They don’t, and I doubt Henry has even noticed. Young and adaptable

[@propanbutanstudio]

8:45 Ultegra crank Q factor 146 + GRX crank Q factor 151 is that ok?

[@Mapdec]

Depends how adaptable you are. Henry is young and fit, I bet he doesn’t even notice. I bet if you slide one cleat out 5mm you wouldn’t notice either. Your foot probably slides about in your shoe more than that.

[@adammillsindustries.]

Exactly, I have a slender frame and like a narrow Q factor to go with my narrow bars. I slide my cleats far over so my shoe is close to the crank arm without rubbing as possible.

[@edgerat]

V4RS is T47 no? Colnago went away from the T45.

[@loophole123]

4 minutes in and still waiting to hear what is the purpose of this gadget!

[@harleypurcell7766]

Curious if this will be better than my xd15 enduro BB

[@Mapdec]

Different. XD15 is all about corrosion resistance.

[@vktravellog1242]

Is that the motorized version?

[@Mapdec]

Jake inspected it very closely. 😂

[@stefannewels1823]

I'm shure it's worth every penny.... 🕴🏼

[@Mapdec]

Bleeding edge of a marginal gain

[@Carftymk]

if they don't make a SRAM/28.99mm BB yet, does this mean he was using a different BB on his TT since his cybrei cranks are 29mm?

[@Mapdec]

They do a T47. Just not in this fancy design.

[@reynerlara5353]

What mtb brands has a t47?

[@edmundhodgson2572]

Nice bit of engineering. You would have to be world class to justify it though.

[@markrushton1516]

People are buying 6k+ bikes and fitting cheap BB's, the very heart of your pedalling. 400 sounds a lot but is it when you look at people spending that kind of money on shoes and £1k on Garmin pedals

[@edmundhodgson2572]

@@markrushton1516 Yeah I get that and its a lovely thing to have, but I can use the shoes and the garmin on any of my 13 bikes...

[@brettsta72]

Great content. But there does appear to be an undertone of passive aggressive Hambini bashing of late. I thought you used to be friends. Has something happened?

[@Mapdec]

Not bashing. I’m as fair to him as any brand. His one piece BB designs solve problems that only his, Bb infinite and Sn-vite, do. His range is beautifully machined and accurate, but doesn’t offer any solution to weather proofing. Hambini is only really the best solution to 2 problems. For all the other problems there are better options.

[@brettsta72]

@@Mapdec fair reply. I appreciate you and your work. Thanks for putting it out there.

[@Mapdec]

@@brettsta72 🙏

[@Miraflores1990]

Nice reply ​@@Mapdec

[@andreortizdecarvalho]

@Mapdec I don't want to be the annoying guy, but you've installed the T47 the wrong way. It's the Right side first (5Nm) and then the left side with 40Nm. I would guess you followed the dissemble instructions.

[@Mapdec]

The instructions are on the vid. 👍

[@andreortizdecarvalho]

Hmmm... ok, that's not what's on their website PDF. Maybe it's possible to do it both ways. Thanks for the comments! Great fan of your content, btw bought one BB86 from them after your recommendation, it's so well made, I'm impressed!

[@Mapdec]

@@andreortizdecarvalho let us all know how it holds up. Still early days for durability opinions.

[@andreortizdecarvalho]

@@Mapdec For sure, I'll rebuild my TCR soon, and as soon as I get some miles on it I'll let you know. I've tried about any BB on my TCR (sram GXP, sram DUB, shimano bb86, WMFG 24mm), not happy with any of them. Bikone looks by far the best product.

[@andreortizdecarvalho]

@@Mapdec I also own a Look Blade RS (with sram force), have you tested the Bikone in yours? Give us some feedback. I'm using a SRAM DUB t47, I'm happy with it, but when the time comes, it's likely that I'll replace it with a Bikone.

[@MAEBikr]

This appears to be a copy of the BB infinite design.

[@Mapdec]

It’s kinda similar. The 2 differences really are the cantering ring and the top caps having space to run another layer of seals if you choose.

[@Mapdec]

Oh and the carbon preload tube.

[@MAEBikr]

@@Mapdec Fair- the overall Idea is the same BUT you are correct :)

[@markward2242]

@@Mapdecis the inner tube in their DUB bottom bracket similar concept? Great to hear about options and the ones your discussing look great. Now they need a T47A for my Factor.

[@Mapdec]

@@markward2242 bikine t47 to dub is quite standard. Nice but just a regular design done well. I installed online in my own bike in the tyres vid. Testing durability.

[@truthseeker8483]

I'm using a Dura Ace BSA BB. Can anyone tell me whether I should be changing or is the Dura Ace a good choice?

[@Tom-hp4bq]

if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

[@sabamacx]

The dura-ace bb is strictly a downgrade from even the cheapest Shimano bb's --- it has smallest bearings. Does look good when it matches the rest of the steel bottom bracket diameter, though.

[@Mapdec]

The dura ace is great.

[@garymailhiot5977]

BBInfinite did this years ago.

[@Mapdec]

Not quite the same, but yes.

[@letolollers3729]

Ah yes, garbage "ceramic" bearings.

[@Mapdec]

Meh. Garbage… is a strong word. Offering marginal improvement in one factor at the possible sacrifice of performance of another factor for the cost is probably more accurate. With education you can make that choice. If you need a tiny marginal gain in friction, it might be worth it. 🤷‍♂️. It’s not something that bothers me, but I’m not competing to win a grand tour.

[@richiejames928]

Tour de France winning bottom bracket.. that’s all you need to know.

[@ryux]

No reaming or recutting threads ? What has this channel become

[@aboomination897]

Meanwhile I cry in BB86 pressfit

[@Salzheld]

Is it worth 400? No way!

[@ernestporee3697]

This kind of stuff is why prices are so high on bikes! And then you say prices are to…high? Here’s a tip ! If you, us ! Would only wish to pay $50.dollars for a bottom bracket! I bet there would be plenty good bottom brackets for $50. Screw that! We have guys that will pay$200. Are you connected to UAE ? Companies should not be trying to get your last dollar! It used to be a certain matter of reality that people have other things to do in life ! And priorities form a line in that order. So we make products that People can afford That will do most of the heavy lifting for what they could possibly afford? If you could afford to pay more…don’t! This is not a arms race! Reliability is worth everything! Peace of mind, ? Everything is nice when new ! Most of these brands won’t be around as long their products ? This is a disposable society! No fixing stuff just buy another one? You have already been snookered in electronic and mechanical ! If you can” fix “ electronic stuff ! Very good for you…I can also ! And the replacement parts…if ? Cost more than the original part. Mechanical is doable! It can be repaired to a certain degree, and function . Every part you buy now has to have its own tool ? And we think this is cool? I remember when phones were attached to things…not people! Cartridge bearings sealed are a good thing! And can be replaced multiple times, and give you that new bike feel ! And you have reliability and peace of mind for a lot less than $400. You could do all the bearings on your bike for the next couple of years! That’s why you can still rebuild or repair some vintage campy parts ? Try to get a motor for your rear mech? Or they change the OS ? And as stated product support will be less than five years? Don’t devalue your money! Make them earn it !

[@Mapdec]

I guess every product cost is relative. Isn’t cycling great. It’s a sport where a skilled and well trained rider on a small budget can compete with mega buck bikes.

[@matssvensson7558]

If I were customer I would not be happy about ceramic bearings....

[@Mapdec]

Why? The corrode just as quickly as a normal Chromium Steal bearing for sure, but until that point they do offer less frictional losses if that is important to you. They are a better choice for riders in hot dusty climates. Ceramic bearings have a place, for some people in some conditions.

[@robest334]

I have a question. I hope you dont mind. Do all roadbike cable actuated brake levers compatible with mechanical disc brakes? Do they have different pull ratios?

[@Mapdec]

All road bike are the same, but MTB is different. You often see MTB callipers on Road levers.

[@jamesspokes1372]

400 euros for a BB, lol. More costly than a hamburger one, see why you love it.

[@Pajac_1]

This is not similar to square bottom brackets This is similar to all BMX BBs standard, above 2003? In future, i belive all protour race bikes will get directly press bearings to the frame.

[@Mapdec]

Yeah. I think we will see a return to pressfit too. Hopefully BB386evo

[@Pajac_1]

@@Mapdec yea, not so often but, once maybe twice a month, i have rondo ruut cf bike on stand and when i’m looking at the size of this BB i got feelings that this is the best way for pressfit. Of course it’s 386evo

[@therainbowgulag.]

All you need to do now is to find a carbon bike with a round hole to put it in.

[@Mapdec]

It’s ok. This one is threaded.

[@E3kTheCat]

You should be looking at his doping not his bottom bracket

[@peterago1082]

wow

[@BakerK-p6f]

all this overengineering to be 5% better than square taper and last 1/4 as long

[@JoakimGarde]

Is it worth it to mount it to my 500£ bike?

[@Mapdec]

Only you know the answer to that.