The Wire Corner Kids Classroom Presentation

[@kaij98673]

"Some crab cakes and a coke. And hurry that shit up too"

[@craigory8123]

"hurry dat shit up tew" lmaoo

[@stoops120682]

Every adult in this clip has their flaws, but all of them - on their level - want what's best for these kids. That's pretty powerful

[@GustheAwsome]

does the superintendent? she seems more concerned about appearances over the kid's well being

[@peterisawesomeplease]

@@GustheAwsome I think they make it pretty clear in the scene that she is listening to their arguments and understands even if she disagrees. The battles over tracking programs have never ended and it is a really complex subject.

[@Snarkythecat]

5:07 lmao Albert was the best.

[@toughlikerocks]

Back when no one knew who Ben Carson was lol.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Factz no even me

[@johnydoe726]

Lol I didn't even know who he was either

[@coz95160]

Ils parlent trop de flics aux profs

[@The_yeffy1]

I knew who he was because of the Siamese twins he successfully separated at the head. The black community should prop up guys like him but instead the black youth look up to tiktok rappers.

[@josephvincson8454]

I did 😂😂

[@SuperDurv]

Bunny the real MVP

[@ThePurpleclone]

Good detail is that the ceiling mount for a TV is empty, probably because it broke and they can't afford to get another.

[@strangebrew1231]

Or someone stole it

[@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197]

That teacher is so fine.

[@strangebrew1231]

Wonder why the kids all fear mrs sampson

[@toughlikerocks]

Cause she was a kind and compassionate teacher who also didn't F around. You need only watch the scene where she slaps Laetitia after she slashes that girl in the face. She's got the SLAP! I mean, she was married to Cutty after all.

[@MrKaMiKaDzE345]

@@toughlikerocks Damn, that is the underused thing, Cutty would have made a great impact on informing these kids about the implications of street life. He is very respected on the street

[@ronaldbird2100]

This is what they learn, America is in serious trouble.

[@peterisawesomeplease]

I mean this was a show from a long time ago. I just started student teaching in a school not so different from this one. Some issues are still similar. The battles over tracking have never ended. But students expectations for themselves have improved and the number of students headed toward crime and jail have plummeted in most places. The new battle is against screen addiction. The issue used to be kids being disruptive because they believed their only chances were outside of the school system. The new problem is kids being disruptive or even more often just giving up because they don't see any hope for themselves at all. Its not I will be in the NBA or dead in 10 years. Its I will be in my parents basement playing video games all day in 10 years. It really varies by location though. No child left behind is dead. States now generally have control over their own policies. And many of the states have taken that control and given it to their districts. So there is a lot my variety between the approaches of different school systems now. And with the teacher shortages teachers are slowly clawing back power. They are so desperate that teacher can kinda do whatever we want in our classrooms.

[@jamelharris9250]

Staci davis

[@answerman9933]

But can they write in clear English?

[@peterisawesomeplease]

This is actually something I kinda hated about the deception in the Wire. Although I generally liked their representation of the school systems. They acted like teaching to the test was horrible and ruining the education. But really if they had just been teaching writing to the best of their ability they would have been doing both better on the standardize tests and doing more to educate the students. Modern standardized tests have really improved things though. Perez complains about being forced to teach curriculum the students are not ready for. This is still a big issue. But the newer standardized tests have dynamic questions that adjust difficulty based on how a student is doing. So if you have 8th graders at a 4th grade level. You will actually do better on the new standardized tests by teaching them at the 4th grade level than by trying to "teach the test" at the 8th grade level. Many teachers don't realize this yet though. So they still attempt to teach above grade level thinking they are gaming the test. When in reality they are gaming themselves and they would get better test scores if they just tried to be good teachers generally.

[@breadbread4226]

​@@peterisawesomepleaseyou say newer standardised tests, this show was filmed and is supposed to take place in the early to mid 2000s. That's like 20 years ago. Is that included in the Newer tests or was it a valid criticism at the time?

[@peterisawesomeplease]

@@breadbread4226 Modern testing has made the critiques in the wire less valid. But even at the time I think the wire was being more critical of standardized testing than made sense. Like if students can not write a paragraph in middle school it legitimately makes sense to concentrate on being able to write a paragraph. It might be teaching to the test but its still the right thing to teach. Standardized testing even in the old days was still pretty effective at pushing basic standards. Also just generally math standardized testing tends to be the hardest. So its odd that the math teacher would be the one suffering. Its the elective teachers that generally lose their time.

[@breadbread4226]

@@peterisawesomeplease maybe I don't remember that season of the wire as well as I should for this discussion, but wasn't the math teachers whole problem that teaching to the test made him loose his students. He tried to teach in ways that made them learn and then couldn't because he needed to teach for the test. Maybe that was a problem of lack of experience, perhaps you could have taught the stuff in the test in a way that these kids would be engaged in that he didn't see(And explicitly wasn't allowed to attempt).

[@peterisawesomeplease]

@@breadbread4226 Yes. Perez was losing students who wanted to learn math when he was forced to teach English. This does happen but its almost always the other way around. Schools force teachers from other subjects to teach more math. Math is almost always the subject pushed hardest by standardized testing. So more realistically it would be the Art teacher forced to teach math not the math teacher forced to teach English. But yea a more realistic story line would have been something like the school trying to teach kids essay writing by having them copy essays. While the good teacher would be having them write about their lives. There are issues with standardized testing itself. But these are usually with more advanced students.