The Worst Habit in Martial Arts

[@rudai123]

Static arm makes bullshido work. That's why.

[@ninjamaster7724]

That's why aikido is still around.

[@drhkleinert3245]

Just watch a Karate or Hapkido Demo and you will see really real attacks. Not.

[@mario.619]

my hapkido instructor also says: if you want to help your partner, try to really punch him

[@drhkleinert3245]

Problem is that most techniques in any style wont work against a real punch/kick in a Dojo and then the studends think about how many sense are in the belts and examinations (when no disarms or lock will work)

[@Gieszkanne]

Do his students still got all their teeth?

[@214warzone]

I hope some one does this in a Street Fight. That way, I can counter with a 100-move combo :)

[@alex09aries]

Yes for sure, i use winter melon flying fist style when in violent street situations.Hard to beat, ferocious too.

[@Kung-Tech-Fu]

Most dont understand cultivation in combat training, it's the 3 C's. First is Cooperation, where you allow a person to learn the technique/tactic and entry functionality . the 2nd is to Contest, by variations and twist and turns, the 3rd is Combative, where you do what's talked about in this video. You need all 3 for proper cultivation.

[@revariox189]

Most sensical comment I have read so far. Definitely from someone who understands the human learning process.

[@mistermindahenziandalasnus3754]

This here is EVERYTHING! 🔥 Thanks for making a video about this "disease".

[@shevetlevi2821]

Agree 100%. Thankfully, most martial arts, even the traditional ones that are most guilty of this are starting to wake up.

[@hamadalrowaie6882]

I 100% agree with you guys 🤔

[@AdrianTreloar]

I would add this. When your partner throws a quarter speed punch, respond with a quarter speed parry or quarter speed slip.

[@viewsbydrone5313]

It’s funny how many clubs who call themselves JKD train just like the first 8 seconds of the vid.

[@viewsbydrone5313]

John Doe I agree 100% with the instructors getting stuck in the rut of training like that.

[@barnabykent6698]

You guys are as refreshing as a cold drink on a hot day!

[@giovannisoave9634]

All Chinese traditional martial arts work against the slow-one-punch-arm-out-guy.

[@victorsrur134]

start with the static arm,learn the move,then try with speed and resistance

[@jj-wp6wc]

Reminds me of alot of Kali pangamont. Fun but...risky...

[@TheMeditatingRaven]

Ahhhh, Burton Richardson. I became fascinated with his work when I discovered Silat for the Street, a book and martial art program focused on practical, pressure tested applications of Silat. A good book, but I felt it only scratched the surface. I am sure the program is much more extensive. Hopefully, the new Professional Pentjak Silat Championship, a full contact league for Silat in a roughly MMA format, will take notice of Burton’s work for their second season.

[@KiNASuki]

Pencak Silat as competitive sport? Haha. When you have to banned 7 out of 10 best moves (roughly). You have silat, a watered down version. Leaves a sour taste to my eyes when I see them.

[@CBHDK59]

some techniques in the book is good. go back to the book, science well show you otherwise

[@TheMeditatingRaven]

Charles Benitez What exactly are you finding fault with? I have skimmed back through the book, and mostly everything follows the fundamentals of leverage, sensitivity, biomechanics, and natural human response.

[@outofthebox7]

I know you are sure you both know what you are talking about. But you don't. There are thousands of videos where fighters, even boxers(!), extend there arm out AND IT IS ACTUALLY LEFT OUT, for a second or less, that is, when they are sure they will make contact, when in fact they surprisingly don't. The idea is to do what you can with the attacker's arm in such situations, in such timing. SO, the mistake is when the arm is left out intentionally but calling it a real fast attack, when the intention behind the arm was not really to punch and hurt the guys head. A bonus: You can even do the fancy stuff when the punch first slightly lands on you if you didn't manage to avoid it getting out of the way. Imagine that! You can't, can you? Also, if you manage to intercept a punch with a block (can you do it? Does it happen in boxing? Yes it does!), if you are quick enough(depends on how you spar train) you can do things of a wing chun, kenpo, silat etc. Traditional martial artists have got sucked into the jujitsu/wrestling mentality/propaganda, that they can no longer think straight and are rendered incapable of helping people from these systems.

[@armorcombatsystems6935]

Good video. I would like to see you do a video on Bull in the Ring drills.

[@ninjamaster7724]

This is the reason why aikido is still around.

[@Bubble23428]

And Jake Mace‘s Shaolin do

[@jcarney1987]

I agree, when I do training drills with my partners, they tend to leave there hand there for me to make a block and I naturally take there fist and control it breaking the whole drill, because in my mind its my goal to break your form and leaving your hand out there is to easy, so when I train with my son I always instruct him the min you're hand touches an unintended target, take your hand back and reset. Off course I train in Wing Chun and Xingyi, so when they take there hands back it makes it much harder to trap and control, but by partners taking there hands back, it makes the martial art much more effective in realism.

[@TheKinomutai]

Great 👍

[@subsonic9854]

This well-known critique is starting to feel a bit overblown. Putting aside mcdojos, there could be good reasons to use this method. In the same way, hitting a speed bag does not teach boxing form and hitting concave pads is the opposite of hitting a spherical head, but they help you acquire other skills and attributes. Putting this in here because i know all the functionality cultists agreed with the video before even watching it.

[@uchim4ta633]

SuB SONiC exactly. People centuries ago never boxed or strikes the way people do today. It’s like saying people fucked the same way, lol no. People had no clue, people would lock out because it was either committed or they flat out sucked. Also old school boxing had their arms floating around for a reason, to deflect and act as a literal fence. There’s no point bashing tradition. If you can’t read between the lines and have common sense to translate things on your own well you’re a moron and really haven’t learned anything. Most traditional arts are merely well preserved archived sets of techniques intended to be brought to life through the user but people take things to literally and can’t think outside of the box.

[@subsonic9854]

@@uchim4ta633 '... well preserved archived sets of techniques intended to be brought to life through the user...' Thats a great way to put it and imma steal it dude hahaha. That said, kesting and richardson are otherwise really skilled and insightful. I wish their generation would just stop with the animosity and sarcasm toward the scam artists and deluded or untested people of their youth already. I mean, we get it, aliveness, sparring, ok. Yeah. Lets move on already. If people are still doing these kinds of drills its because they want to.

[@drhkleinert3245]

Sorry, but these mistakes were teached to me from 1978 til 2017 in different Styles, no matter if Korean, Japanese or FMA. Teached by worldwide known and accepted grandmasters (up to 10th degree Black Belt) and by really honored organisations. Not only in McDojo. It is teached in all Dojos bec 99% of all MA wont work against real attacks, it needed an opponent who acts on the right way, otherwise it will becomes a streetbrawling but no nice looking fancy move. Tip: Just try to disarm or lock a non cooperative opponent who is allowed to hurt you very well. I met so many Black Belts who doesnt have a chance i a real fight.

[@subsonic9854]

@@drhkleinert3245 reread. We clearly discussed reasons for doing these drills. We did not say you shouldnt do full speed or full resistance drills like sparring or hitting heavy bags. It is in fact possible to do more than one type of drill without dying or breaking the law. Nobody said these drills are only taught in mcdojos. And you can keep your 'tips' to yourself.

[@78a67h]

So what is your recommendation? The late Mas Oyama of Kiokushin fame, would stop an incoming punch by his own direct punch to the attackers fist. As his fist was like a piece of rock that would put an effective and conclusive END to the attack against him. I am more than certain the same could be applied with devastating effect by Goju-Ryu Master Morio Higoana (have you seen his hands recently?) Short and sweet!

[@scarred10]

That is complete nonsense,its impossible to do.Oyama never had any realistic combat experience, nor did higoanna.

[@78a67h]

@@scarred10 I am not an advocate of Oyama nor practice his style, but learn your history. Oyama in his young years had numerous street fights picking especially on US Marines who were stationed in Japan after WW2. He always beat them very very bad. Rightly or wrongly this was his way of reacting to the death of many of his friends under US fire during the war. As for Higoanna, now in his 80s, it is unlikely that he will endeavour to engage in a street fight, but God help the man who comes against any of his hand techniques.

[@TheABCD3912]

this guy's face reminds me of someone. maybe Bob Saget?

[@Acuracy813]

????? I've never seen anyone, no matter how unskilled simply leave their arm extended during actual combat or sparring. I see too often instructors teaching self defense against a static opponent, but I've never known this to be a thing.

[@drhkleinert3245]

I saw this in the last 40 yrs in every style and school. Same in FMA where the "attacker" strikes with the stick (or rubber knife) and freeze in stretched position. If they all wont do that the blocks and counters wont work so all school stuff and examinations would be useless (belts too).

[@Kev80ification]

I've seen this alot in FMA. It's fantasy.

[@drhkleinert3245]

It will work against a slow and not experienced attacker.

[@2ndGale]

That's because it's sensitivity training. Any honest place will tell you all the drills you're doing is for attribute development and not actually applicable lmao.

[@Kev80ification]

@@2ndGale I know what your saying. I've done kali for 8 years I loved it. All I'm saying is that we should question the amount of time we put into these drills. They should be reduced significantly in my opinion and a more honest training methodology should be utilised

[@davidtraining511]

my humble opinion thats the thing that decreases the arts unless is for practice the master ken 100 combos.lol😂

[@drhkleinert3245]

I call it "Freeze" (the attacker freeze and looks and wait what you do next, on and on) and i agree that this is the most bullshitting thing in nearly every Martial Art (and that is the reason why most MA fails against an uncooperative opponent). Another big trainingfail is that there is too many distance between the fist (stretched arm) and the face. Of course its much easyer to block and counter a punch that is 10 inch away from my nose, and of course it dont hurt if i block wrong. And of course nobody thinks about the moving of the body of the opponent, and that he will do kicks or knee while the defender plays with the one arm.

[@incarnacomics]

If you are training for self defense just watch all the candid video on street attacks and see reality. Nothing fancy, usually first hard punch and it is over.

[@raymondramallo601]

Exactly nobody leaves their arm out, if that was the case i would very easily win all my fights ??

[@punisher7772]

True, you have to shift out of the way but can't you move in close and execute an elbow for example into his knuckles or bicep ? Into his shoulder muscle is actually pretty good too. I didn't think his arm had to necessarily be frozen in the air. If you move in to close range it should work I would think. You should be all over him. This way it wouldn't matter if he retracts his punch and throws another one. You cut into that angle you need to be at. You should be so close ( not at long range trading punches like a moron ) he can't really do anything but take the hits. After slipping the punch you need to follow his movements and stick with him. You are " crowding " him making it more likely all of your fast hits will land . I can understand a guy isn't going to stand there and let you do stuff to him, of course. But the whole concept is you are moving in on him and if you land one good shot he should be stunned and especially if your moving into him, his balance will be broken. Giving you even more control. So actually these techniques can work but you have to have the right approach ( good footwork/distance control and timing )

[@pascal0868]

Who’s the guy with Stephan?

[@raymondramallo601]

Burton richardson, very long time jkd, Instructor. Who is very qualified in what he is addressing, people fight with two hands not one hand at a time. Thats why u develop very bad habits ?

[@CBHDK59]

why you keep delecting this below video? this video already exist.

[@CBHDK59]

i been saying that for years and made videos on it (on writing.) I wonder where he getting his ideas from. it seems to me he just came up with this idea. take a look at the month this video was made. if you look around his old videos and magazine you find he been and teaching the above video technique for years.

[@zackphelps7859]

I appreciate what you are trying to say, but where is your foot work? The way that Kenpo, Kung Fu, etc. gets so many counters on an attacker’s limb is by moving into and around the opponent. Great footwork is the key to any successful self defense approach.

[@78a67h]

The "static" prearranged drills are used in Karate Kihon Kumite (step sparring) mostly to enable students to learn correct distancing (Maai) in fighting. Furthermore if one looks very carefully, the counter that follows the "static" attack is devastating and fast enough, sometimes simultaneous (Ai-Ouchi) to put the original attacker out of action so that in realistc terms he is unable to launch a 2nd and 3rd attack.

[@TOMDHARLEYJKD]

“Dissecting the Corpse” not statue...

[@cistelpusheems2606]

You hate the strikers

[@viniciuspaiva3889]

The static thing is a drill, it's very obvious. Unnecessary video. All the stuff that is done is to show the possibilities. The problem in all TMA is in the teachers, they just pass the techniques without teaching the meaning. Few TMA teachers do the contrary.

[@raymondramallo601]

To mr.lee respectively, who made a comment. The vid was vety useful it shed light on the fact that no one throws one punch at a time, its always two punches in a combo ? Either left ,righjt or right left ? Those static techniques where u just leave one arm out, are designed for someone throwing one punch at a time. What about the other hand thats coming in ? Gotta have an answer for that ? I been addressing this issue with traditional martial artist for a long time and they have no answer? Maybe a little boxing might b the answer ?

[@viniciuspaiva3889]

@@raymondramallo601 the video didn't shed any light. It's something everybody who step on a TMA gym already knew. But, I repeat, the problem is with the TMA teachers, they just repeat what learned and don't do sparring sessions among their students. Everyone today like to make fun with TMA even if they never step into a dojo, and forget that Muay Thai, boxing/kickboxing, bjj, etc,all they do static drill. It's a learning tool, it's lways the same: one guy make one ou two moves, the other guy defends himself and then uses the techniques and the first person stays there. I train kickboxing and nothern shaolin, and the drills are very similar and I use the shaolin moves in the kickboxing sparring very well.

[@raymondramallo601]

@@viniciuspaiva3889 ii trained traditional martial arts a long time ago, i know their training methods very well. Am a division 1 wrestler ( university of iowa ) and bjj blackbelt. Am very familiar with resistance training and static training, its just a fact tma train their self defense techniques in static all the time ? This is why stefan and burton made this vid to bring this issue out, i did the same exact self defense techniques when i trained tma. Skill comes out of resistance training not static training.

[@raymondramallo601]

@@viniciuspaiva3889 i agree with u about the tma instructors about sparring but also they need to do functional drills which they dont do ? And believe me bjj and wrestling every drill is based on function, u can research this ? Every drill i ever did in wrestling and bjj was functional i wouldnt have it any other way ☺

[@viniciuspaiva3889]

@@raymondramallo601 The TMA drills are functional too, unfortunatelly, most of the teachers don't make any effort to improve them, use the "traditional method" bullshit, but this is a problem of the teachers/instructors/"masters", not a TMA problem. My nothern shaolin teacher always do the static drill to keep the tradition, but after that, pass to us the meaning of the movements and then we do drills in a more realistic way. Since you trained TMA and know they so much, you should keep in mind that the form, drills, anything are concepts, that's why is called ART, it means that anything there has many meanings, but you need a good instruction to "see" these meanings. To understand what I'm saying, search for Shuai Jiao, if you don't know. It's the chinese wrestling, now compare with "our" wrestling and you'll see the difference between a traditional and a non-traditional martial art.

[@saiyidh]

People who love BJJ and practice should only talk BJJ. Opinions are dime a dozen. If you have not practiced or have experience in Karate or stand up martial arts. The best way is to find or take the questions to a qualifies teacher. There are many things people do not understand about practices and they should not judge others and make opinions if they dont understand it. FYI. There is something called a straight punch and it is in street fight situations as well. It is not delivered as a karateka but as a boxer, has the same idea.

[@britishbushido]

So we need grappling arts to tell us this now? Give me a break.. they know nothing about striking, but act like they need to tell us about the most obvious thing ever?? Just because they see very poorly executed TMA in the strip mall.. they think we all do that?? And they need to educate us?? Outta here with that crap

[@CBHDK59]

my videos are older than this video. this video was made august 18 2019 of this month. I believe I'm the first to had debunked that idea. HUNT KING DO taught me that idea.

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