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The WORST SARM?! | AC262 / Accadrine | Side Effects? | Fat Loss? | SARMs Cycle | Doctor's Analysis

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Nicholas Downey

Nicholas Downey

Күн бұрын

Is this SARM the worst of all the SARMs? In this video I look into the little research that there is surrounding the SARM AC262 (also known as Accadrine). I give my reasons as to why I think this SARM is not really a typical SARM and why I think it could be classified as the weakest sarm. I look at a study comparing its effects to Testosterone propionate. Let me know what you think about this SARM!
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@CounterNarrative_
@CounterNarrative_ 10 ай бұрын
I've seen about 8 blood tests taken when on AC262 and after, It doesn't impact liver much if at all, suppression was minimal after about 60 days of use and bounces back quickly, something fairly consistent is that total T was higher after the cycle. While it's "only" 67% as anabolic, because it's not that suppressive it's still worth using in a muscle building context for short periods of time. This will be likely one of those times, like with turkesterone, that mice models don't translate fully to human. Relative to almost any other SARM, AC262 is probably one of the better if not the best because it seems relatively safe for hair, bloods etc.
@brianpulley8652
@brianpulley8652 10 ай бұрын
After watching probably 50 or more videos on AC262 this is the only video I've seen bad mouthing it.
@CounterNarrative_
@CounterNarrative_ 10 ай бұрын
@@brianpulley8652 well ye, he only references the mouse study, Tony Huge over a year ago was doing bloods with people he was giving it to, very minimal suppression, not liver toxic within the 60 days cycle and interestingly peoples tests were higher after the rebound coming off. AC262 would be the go to sarm, since the whole point of sarms is to be more selective and have less sides than older androgens, even saying it's "bad" relative to others because it's less anabolic is stupid, since most sarms are hairline killers and are loaded with sides, you're better off doing steroids rather than something like Rad140 at that point if you're just concerned with maximizing gains and don't care for sides.
@yushamenthari
@yushamenthari 10 ай бұрын
So what did u use after the cycle?
@yushamenthari
@yushamenthari 10 ай бұрын
And did u use test base or u went naty?
@solealsumaiti4220
@solealsumaiti4220 10 ай бұрын
What was your dosage?
@kalebanderson6564
@kalebanderson6564 8 ай бұрын
its funny how looking at research might show one thing but peoples experiences are completely different. People consider ac262 to be the best and safest sarm due to it barely being suppressive and yielding great gains.
@maxvantiggelen667
@maxvantiggelen667 10 ай бұрын
I love these videos so much. I really appreciate your deeper understanding of these topics and your (real, not pseudo) scientific approach.
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support!
@ballerplayapimphuztla
@ballerplayapimphuztla 10 ай бұрын
RAD140 is one of the strongest sarms and it is also a partial agonist so saying that's why ac262 is weak or a bad choice doesn't make sense. Also the point of sarms at least in a bodybuilding context is to get something comparably as anabolic as testosterone or traditional steroids with less side effects however that is a pipe dream and anyone who uses or is thinking of using sarms should know that obviously no sarm will be as anabolic as simply taking testosterone. AC262 and other milder sarms are a good alternative for people who don't want to commit and/or don't want to deal with as many side effects as steroids. There's a lot of anecdotal logs now to know for sure that AC262 does work for muscle building it just doesn't compare to testosterone and other anabolic steroids, hell even stronger sarms like lgd or rad 140 but all those options come with more side effects. Also while it does suppress LH it doesn't seem to do the same to testosterone levels and LH can be upregulated by using a serm in conjuction or near the end of the cycle or as a pct.
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Rad140 is a full agonist when looking at levator ani and has 1.33× the efficacy of testosterone where Ac262 only had 67% of the efficacy. RAD140 is a partial agonist at the prostate. The issue is that with the research we do have, which appears to be in contradiction to the reports you mention, appears to be suppressive at doses that would be anabolic and more so than testosterone. Now, in a space where there isn't much research anecdotes are welcomed but I think it would be important to be cautious before we have phase 1 trials. The issue with the SERM recommendation, whilst I see it is commonly mentioned, the research would suggest (given that the rats were orchidectomized) that AC262 is suppressive due to reasons unrelated to oestrogen since orchidectomized rats will have lower oestrogen levels and SERMs rely on inhibiting this negative feedback caused by oestrogen. That being said, some SARMs have been noted to stimulate the ER in the hypothalamus and this then would mean SERMs might have a place but I'm not too convinced yet but I'm not against changing my opinion. Thanks for the comment
@N-xi2zh
@N-xi2zh 10 ай бұрын
What the heck?? I would never use this most likely, except maybe for injuries... but this is the worst one? This was supposed to be one of the safest. Good content Doctor!
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. I just don't know if there is any situation where it's useful and I can't say with confidence that it is safe
@samcary777
@samcary777 10 ай бұрын
About 9 weeks into 20mg AC-262, Cardarine & Enclomiphene. I've trippled my gym volume, gained strength, lost 23 lbs. Cut my bad cholesterol in half, all my blood markers improved, improved prostate marker, and went from 640 to 1259 test. LH, E2 unchanged. FSH moved up a bit. Been in a Defecit the whole time and feel like superman in the gym. Obviously Zero suppression along side Enclomiphene, and feeling of wellbeing & calm lift of depression. AC-262 (or at least the combo) is amazing. Maybe the worst? Maybe the best Sarm. The blood work and results tell the tale. I believe it was originally developed to combat prostate cancer and Alzheimer's. And I would say those effects carry through as stated also. It shrinks the prostate and improves blood work, and many have even reported increses in test without a test base or pct. It's not as strong as some of the others like rad. But to me it's worth the trade-off for all the health benefits. & one more edit: Enclomiphene supposedly increases LH, and AC supposedly slightly decreases LH but seems to do so without actually surpressing test, which is fascinating. Basically, I'm getting more test from the Enclomiphene without having to have super high LH levels. Everything on my blood work is in very healthy ranges...... perhaps 67% you mentioned may be the biggest benefit if that's what's leaving space on the receptor for test to keep binding maybe? Just a thought. I'm not a doc
@joeryan82
@joeryan82 9 ай бұрын
How is mood, cognition, and libido compared to before cycle?
@samcary777
@samcary777 9 ай бұрын
@joeryan82 significantly improved. More energy, less depression, better mood. I finished at 12 weeks and started SR-9011, NMN, and MK-677. And now my energy is almost too much. Like a damn 17 year old. Still on enclo. And I'm 40. If I add armodafinil, the social confidence & wellbeing goes to level 99 too
@joeryan82
@joeryan82 9 ай бұрын
@@samcary777 Great to hear, mate. Sounds like a good stack, something I may try myself at some point.
@echols2010
@echols2010 8 ай бұрын
​@@samcary777what company for ac-262??
@samcary777
@samcary777 8 ай бұрын
I get Chemyo. ​@@echols2010
@MrSzymonurai
@MrSzymonurai 10 ай бұрын
Ive been taking 20mg on workout days. I can honestly say it helps. However, it is definitely not powerful. I just have better workouts more often. I haven't gained any significant amounts of muscle. Id say i lost fat. However, dont know if that is the AC262. Only side effects i had was stiff joints. Usually after 3 days in a row. After going off for 2 days my joints feel great.
@stephenlunt342
@stephenlunt342 4 ай бұрын
So you're not taking this daily? Would that not effect your end result. Are you stacking it with anything else
@GustavKarl-wh3xj
@GustavKarl-wh3xj 6 ай бұрын
Can I do 10mg Ac and Anavar sublingual daily cycle
@scottp6761
@scottp6761 5 ай бұрын
Im here to tell you AC 262 is legit AF and I take 20mg a day with TRT base. TRT by itself i feel bloated, prostate worse and mood depressing. Add the AC and I feel great, prostate is perfect and only one #1 at night. Mood is wonderful, full of energy, and sleep like a rock. It is the best sarm i ever tried. It isnt as strong as LGD or whatever others are yk11 but has zero sides. Ill come back and give you my bloods after im done
@LatrellSprewell15
@LatrellSprewell15 5 ай бұрын
noticeable gains? I too take trt, 200mg a week. I am considering buying ac. Appreciate the info man
@scottp6761
@scottp6761 5 ай бұрын
@@LatrellSprewell15 yes for sure
@scottp6761
@scottp6761 5 ай бұрын
@user-nz2qs9ik2k yes on 20mg a day. I would start dividing dose of its 10 and 10. Now im taking 20 in morning. Although its a short half life so almost better to divide. I may finish my cycle at 30mg as my body is used to it at 2 weeks now.
@enhart3175
@enhart3175 3 ай бұрын
​@@scottp6761Hi, still no sides? Im slowly considering it
@delosaur970
@delosaur970 3 ай бұрын
I've been on AC-262 at 20mg and enclo eod at 12.5mg for 6 weeks. I never thought to contribute the fact I'm not going #1 twice a night anymore to the prostate benefits of ac262. Makes perfect sense thank you for connecting that dot.
@MrCocheazul
@MrCocheazul 4 ай бұрын
Ok, not very effective, but if you are on a low testosterone level, doesn't it add some anabolic activity to the system? Will it block LH on such lower doses if testosterone its normal? I think both reaasons can make it helpful.
@SSjago
@SSjago 10 ай бұрын
Keep the content coming, Im listening with great interest
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Wow thanks for the kind words
@MuscleMafia403
@MuscleMafia403 10 ай бұрын
Love the content I subscribed! can you do a video on ACP-105 please!
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, in the process of getting all relevant research but was side tracked with research in to TB 500
@reshaun1967
@reshaun1967 10 ай бұрын
You're in the minority with AC262 being the worst. I've been on it 2 weeks and gains are great, no eye problems or liver issues ike with ostarine. I'm taking m chances. Using liver support and pct.
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
This may be the case but I'm just basing my opinion on the little research we have currently. Will be interesting to see how it works in a clinical situation
@solealsumaiti4220
@solealsumaiti4220 10 ай бұрын
What is your dosage?
@reshaun1967
@reshaun1967 10 ай бұрын
10mg around 5am 30 min before gym@@solealsumaiti4220
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 8 ай бұрын
I have a history of eye problems having had 2 operations as a child. Ostarine improves my eyesight and is especially handy now I'm in my 40's. I do get reduced sexual arousal if I use it too long. 10mg for a month each day and then a month off is optimum for me. LGD and RAD140 are too harsh for me so was looking for something a bit more potent than the Ostarine without too much in the way of side effects.
@reshaun1967
@reshaun1967 8 ай бұрын
I just finished 35 days of ac262 and happy with the gains. I put on 9lbs and can't wait 35 or so days to start the cut with ac and cardarine. When I did my last cut, I didnt lose any weight on the scale but my fat areas: stomach and chest cut well and were defined.@@marcustaylor670
@JohnArby
@JohnArby 7 ай бұрын
Idk, between ostarine and AC I've had a much better time with just 10mg of AC. No suppression, bloods are normal, recovering fast, and even my mood is up.
@robmen1402
@robmen1402 7 ай бұрын
What about your blood sugar levels. That is the ine im worried about as im type 2 diabetic.
@JohnArby
@JohnArby 7 ай бұрын
@@robmen1402 Mine came back within normal ranges, but everyone is different, and I wouldn't mess with these compounds if I had underlying conditions or was at an unhealthy body fat %. Others have had elevated blood sugar levels from AC262, but nothing alarming since they started at normal ranges. I finished my cycle and will definitely use this again for cutting since you keep all your strength, even gaining a little bit while cutting calories.
@letsvibewithjack4807
@letsvibewithjack4807 6 ай бұрын
He doesn’t really say why it’s the worst or harmful but more that it’s not powerful
@TikiManTimoki
@TikiManTimoki 10 ай бұрын
Whats the best?
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Don't really want to say a particular sarm is the best because of the message it sends but I'll make a video where you guys can come to your own conclusions
@TikiManTimoki
@TikiManTimoki 10 ай бұрын
Yes, Thanks @@NicholasDowney
@1234428242
@1234428242 10 ай бұрын
osterine? @@NicholasDowney
@auttomotiveelectronicperfo2010
@auttomotiveelectronicperfo2010 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video, did you made some release for RAD140?
@ts1994-b9j
@ts1994-b9j 9 ай бұрын
It’s the safest sarm and also very good for injuiries.
@clubstyleridahd4695
@clubstyleridahd4695 2 ай бұрын
It works better than what it says on paper.
@michaelm4712
@michaelm4712 4 ай бұрын
This is just a bad video, you learned about it a few days before you made this video, have no first hand experience or even collected data from human users, you read a couple animal studies, now you want to give advice? Or claim it's the worst ? On top of this you pretty much proved in the video it's one of the safest in terms of side effects. Yea it's not gonna give you test or tren gains, not even close, but most people don't want to take those risks associated. I personally know 7 people who have taken ac262 on its own with no test base. They had no significant shut down of natural test until around 50 days in at 20-30 mg a day. They lost an average of 5lbs of fat and gained around 7lbs of muscle and these are trained individuals. There blood work was good, no major changes. So, if you can put that amount of mass on, lose that much fat, have no significant change in blood work, that would be one of the best if not the best. Obviously it requires more data but this video is wildly irresponsible to claim it's the worst
@griffin2599
@griffin2599 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that comment! Do you know if this could cause gyno issues? Did your buddies have any type of issues with is causing gyno sensitivity?
@ShaneWarren-zy8mu
@ShaneWarren-zy8mu 8 ай бұрын
Bro do a cycle of yk11 or rad 150 and tell me if you still think ac262 is the worst 😂💀💀😭mfs have no idea what they even talking about and not sure if yo is a doctor or what but he’s slow…
@dariusamirie4904
@dariusamirie4904 10 ай бұрын
What about s4? Are the vision side effects really only temporary?
@ProtectorOfTheWall
@ProtectorOfTheWall 10 ай бұрын
Its only temporary, you get a slightly worse vision and more yellowish.
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Need to look in to this!
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Any articles you could point me to? I've only heard via Reddit but would be interested in uncovering the mechanism behind it
@ronaknanda6175
@ronaknanda6175 10 ай бұрын
​@@ProtectorOfTheWallShare your experience with S4 bro n effective dose
@user-yc1wq3mi6v
@user-yc1wq3mi6v 3 ай бұрын
I’ve ran s4. It is only temporary. It did get bad, I couldn’t see shit in the dark but it went away when I stopped taking
@Neel_44
@Neel_44 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information
@michaelvodinelich4392
@michaelvodinelich4392 4 ай бұрын
Feeling of calmness and less depression on enclomphiene interesting?
@lebenmachtkunstlifepowersa9813
@lebenmachtkunstlifepowersa9813 9 ай бұрын
I dient get the Point
@user-uj2jm5po9m
@user-uj2jm5po9m 4 ай бұрын
Is it gonna cause any supression ??
@user-hf1vn2fm2d
@user-hf1vn2fm2d 15 күн бұрын
From what ive seen from other people experiences the worst was someone taking 50 mg of ac 262 for 8 weeks and he was suppressed by 41% only but you shouldnt take anymore than 30 mg
@nickps2251
@nickps2251 5 ай бұрын
Yea I used it and it sucked
@joeschmo8115
@joeschmo8115 5 ай бұрын
So what your saying is that this is a very weak performance enhancing drug. And it may cause prostrate cancer, so the fact that it is not very effective makes it not worth the risk of messing up your prostrate. Correct???
@MrCocheazul
@MrCocheazul 4 ай бұрын
It's the weaker for prostate sides with S4 and Acp105. Any steroid or other Sarms do increase Risk of cancer
@marcvaillancourtmv
@marcvaillancourtmv 10 ай бұрын
Def not the worst one. Ive taken the worst one, S23. That fucker is strong and high on sides
@marcustaylor670
@marcustaylor670 8 ай бұрын
So is LGD. Best for gains but worst for sides.
@calciumsulfate1374
@calciumsulfate1374 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it seems more supressive than testosterone for the same ammount of muscle
@NicholasDowney
@NicholasDowney 10 ай бұрын
Exaclty
@ballerplayapimphuztla
@ballerplayapimphuztla 10 ай бұрын
Most anecdotal logs show it only suppresses LH and LH can be upregulated by using a serm in conjuction or near the end of the cycle or as a pct. That seems to be the only hormonal side effect so it still is pretty much the closest thing to a side effect free anabolic drug I have seen and in my opinion a much better alternative to test and other steroids for pretty much anyone who isn't trying to compete in bodybuilding professionally.
@calciumsulfate1374
@calciumsulfate1374 10 ай бұрын
@@ballerplayapimphuztla That is to be expected since a human uses 10-20mg a day total, where as they used 3, 5 and 10mg per kg of bodyweight which is way higher. I would therefore doubt that anyone actually makes any gains from it
@ballerplayapimphuztla
@ballerplayapimphuztla 10 ай бұрын
@@calciumsulfate1374 there's a ton of logs on reddit and yt of people getting gains from it at 20-30 mgs
@mwareviews
@mwareviews 9 ай бұрын
If you take it with blue and black ox test boosters there is ZERO suppression.
@PTQ4Q4Q4Q4
@PTQ4Q4Q4Q4 8 ай бұрын
This guy is bs
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