The WORST Van Halen Product EVER - a Fearless Gear Review

[@mrcoatsworth429]

I don't know, man. Sounded fine on my phone speaker.

[@someoneelse9271]

Agreed. I liken it to narrative. It’s like the hive mind’s opinion that the G12t-75 is a trash speaker. It’s not for everyone but it’s got a nice sound for certain styles.

[@JBGoode-zx7pp]

They sound great. 😂

[@mondragon9282]

It wasn't AWFUL sounding until it was compared to the celestion. When I listened to the original again it was like my eardrums were under attack by a swarm of wasps.

[@riccardominuto]

That was pretty damn accurate

[@FrankiorMusic]

yup, same experience here 🤣

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Not like a nest of the huge Asian wasps, but rather thousands of tiny ones with small wasp syndrome! They are the worse!!!! (

[@tumaggz]

Haha agreed 100% those sheffield's are HORRID

[@Scrappalino]

Wow 🤯 evh 20 watt had all punch , really hear it in the a/b comparison. Peavey speaker was fizzy, lacking punch and articulation.

[@x3a3x3]

Plot twist: Glenn secretly loves the “shitfields” and is trying to drive the prices down so he can hoard as many as he can and corner the market!

[@EmoEmu]

Anonymous buyer on ebay strikes again

[@donsmith5385]

I think you are right, I bought my 5150 b cab for $150, a month or 2 before EVH passed away now they are fetching $400-&700, sounds like someone missed the boat and is crying over it.

[@Anvilshock]

*hoard

[@JBGoode-zx7pp]

“The 5150B cabs suck!” Next frame: driving across state lines to pick one up.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

I was working at the Orlando Arena as an apprentice electrical maintenance technician back in 1995 when Van Halen came through on their Balance tour. It was a dream come true for me to work that night because like so many young guitar players in their 20’s back then, Eddie was my Hendrix. Anyway, Ed’s tech at the time came up to me asking if I had some 16 gauge wire handy so he didn’t have go to the truck to find his. They were running a little late at load in and he was trying to save time. He was replacing 2 blown speakers in one of Ed’s Peavey cabs and wanted to solder in all new wire while he was at it. I was excited to help. I was an Eddie gear nerd even back then trying to figure out his tone, like everyone was. I brought the wire to him at his bench and guess what I saw in Ed’s Peavey cabinets? Yep....Celestion Greenbacks! Older ones at that. Not a Sheffield 1200 to be found! I’ll never forget that afternoon. Great memories!

[@charlesmerfeld2988]

If I remember correctly he used green backs and another type of speaker to get part of his sound on the first few records I believe they blended them

[@TheAxe4Ever]

@@charlesmerfeld2988 Yes. I read where he used Greenbacks and sometimes the Blackbacks (which are basically Greenbacks) and used JBL 120’s along with them on the first couple albums at least. There are photos of him with those cabs and the speakers in an X pattern and you can see the JBL speakers because they have the silver dust cap on them and you can see that through the grill cloth.

[@KidNato]

Even though this is a random anecdote on the internet without evidence, I 100 percent believe you. Ed knew his tone.

[@iMadrid11]

EVH only needs the Peavy badge on the 5150 cabinet to fulfill his sponsors obligation. So this action is not entirely uncommon.

[@JustinBryantdotcom]

@@TheAxe4Ever So we 'Two Notes' actually did this with an original Ed owned 70's cab- owned now by George Lynch- D120's top and Greenbacks bottom- It's very cool sound when mixed together- it opens up the midrange. We profiled these as two cabs- 'VH1 and VH2'

[@exhumus]

Love my 5150 cab and will never part with it, not that anyone's offering to take it off my hands! Thanks for doing your part to ensure that continues to be the case. Lol.

[@stevec6427]

He might have helped keep prices low so you can get a second one.

[@travisspaulding2222]

@@stevec6427 Yeah, I love that he talks mad shit about Line 6. I was able to get an HD500X and a Line 6 cab with V30s in it for super cheap, lol.

[@CamiloPefaur]

I only know 1 person that has made the line 6 spider sound decent. The same person that makes me believe that the tone is in the hands... And that's the guitarist of my band. It's amazing how things change when anyone else plays his rig... He even makes a Metal Muff sound good!

[@lightiskalkin]

@@CamiloPefaur let me introduce you to john browne of monuments and flux conduct

[@CamiloPefaur]

@@lightiskalkin I'll check him out

[@citadelasoundproduction9412]

I'm the guitar player in the video, and honestly, the Sheffield sounds a bit better to me, more defined. Could easily be EQd to a great sounding guitar. The EVH sounds clogged with some unnecessary frequencies even though it is bigger sounding.

[@CaptainPantys]

I honestly don't know which one I like better...

[@zackakai5173]

Honestly I thought the guitar tone by itself sounded fine. Then I heard it in the mix and was like "ah, NOW I get why it sucks" 🤣

[@alrecks619]

for a "1200", it does sound as THIN as it gets lmao.

[@wesleytrott6397]

I thought the same thing. In the full mix, it was very thin.

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

Yeah, that's how it went with me as well. Hearing it by itself, it definitely sounded a bit thin but I didn't think it was obscenely terrible. Then in the full mix, I understood. When he swapped the speakers out, THAT was when I was like "okay, yeah, that first mix was dogshit." I barely know shit about mixing or production, nor can I play guitar to save my life, so I can't imagine how it must sound to someone who actually knows what they're doing.

[@DarkWeekZero]

My thoughts exactly.

[@etherealessence]

yep, as soon as you have a bass for context you see how paper thin that okay tone is

[@JD-vj4go]

I grew up listening to records by Metal Blade and Combat so a lot of these "terrible" mixes and tones sound OK to me. I mean sure it's bad but it's not 80s Combat records bad.

[@juanfichtl2011]

Same, old thrash stuff sounds way worse than this. Still like it! Got to admit that the Celestions sounded great tho.

[@jonsick445]

Same here. Of course the EVH speakers sound better here and I won't argue, but the Sheffields have a unique thing going on. Yes it could be considered bad, but if you're looking for that more old-school tone, I could live with it. And after all, isn't the whole idea of more unique tones especially in the midst of the modeller is king era part of the whole idea?

[@emmstimmer7298]

Maybe you should make video explaining what's the difference between good and bad sound, because after this I'm afraid that all I've ever recorded sounds like grilled rectum 🤣

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Not a bad idea!

[@wordsmith451]

Grilled Rectum is gonna be my band name.

[@finnsterling6514]

@@wordsmith451 Sorry, slick--I own a few popular restaurants in the Midwest US and that's been our name since day one. You'll all be hearing from my attorneys.

[@johnmaynes7142]

@@finnsterling6514 quit your lying, you don’t pop up in the Google search

[@wordsmith451]

@@finnsterling6514 in Soviet Russia, trademark own you.

[@andresilvasophisma]

To sound like a broken in Greenback it's still missing the "in" part.

[@heresjonny666]

Ok so when you started playing and showed the sheffield mix I was like WTF Glenn that tone sounds great, it's got a real aggressive bite to it! Then you played the side by side with the Celestion and...Yeah I can see what you mean. The thing is I don't think it's unsalvagable, it's lacking some bottom but I quite like the frequencies it's working with, they cut through well and don't seem to mask with other sounds. What I've found, when playing around with IRs, is that if you use a Royer R121 to mike up the Sheffield, it gives it a large bottom end boost which rounds the sound off nicely. I find it especially works for Gothic Doom where you have a lot of ambience going on, as it blends in well. Might be something to try, if you have a friend who has one, or if you have a grand lying around? :D

[@umrasangus]

I think that any piece of shit gear has it's place in a specific musical style and scenario (be it live or for studio or just to stroke your ego in your own room).

[@Nitin-hh9li]

Hey Glenn I was wondering how do you maintain fire safety in your studio. With all those electronics and electrical connections?

[@HectorsDolphin1977]

He records it straight to the computer.

[@216trixie]

Yes, all the lights are for show.

[@bigmike2149]

He keeps the bass player out of the control room. 😉

[@lolkom77]

He keeps Americans out of the room.

[@JonnyRocksAW]

He packs all that Canadian snow into the walls.

[@Powermad-bu4em]

The EXACT reason I passed on buying an original 5150 back in the 90s. I played the halfstack at our local music store and I hated it immediately. The salesman actually thought something was wrong with the head. It was the cab all along.

[@Angellus502]

Had the same experince when they first came out, always though i used to much gain :S

[@Powermad-bu4em]

@@Angellus502 It was a mess. My bandmate at the time was also in the market for a new head and he passed on the 5150 for a XXX. That XXX was a beast. I ended up buying a used JCM900. The main point is that we both had Marshall cabs with G-75s. NOW I know if I'd just gotten the 5150 head and used my cab then it probably would have been amazing.

[@xanataph]

Wow I had a similar experience. I tried a 5150 half stack in a music store and I didn't like the sound of it...too trebly and thin. But then I heard Carcass live playing them through Marshall cabs, and I took another look. And I ultimately got one, as it seemed to me to be the best upgrade path from a Marshall 100 watt Valvestate. It was more like a tube version of the Valvestate than anything Marshall made at the time. I have never heard it through anything but a Marshall 4 x 12 and a small closed back speaker box containing a single 12" Celestion out of one of those cabs.

[@Powermad-bu4em]

@@xanataph That was precisely the problem. It was so thin and no bottom the salesman literally said to me "I think they sent us a bad one." Nothing I did would fatten the tone up at all. The only cab they had in the store was that Sheffield one so I didn't have an opportunity to try something different. All these years later and here we are. The thing's a damn legend but the cab still sucks.🤣

[@billzade8158]

Oh man, this hits home for me. I grew up in love with the Dual Rectifier sound, and after my first deployment in 2003, I finally went to buy one for myself. I wasn't thinking about the cab because I just didn't realize how important it was then, and we were plugged into I believe it was a Behringer cab. I was heartbroken because it just didn't sound good, and bought a Randall half stack instead.

[@matiosmi137]

To be honest, I would never have thought it's horrible unless you said it. For me it sounds stellar in the mix!

[@anthonygillette]

I wasn’t even realizing what was wrong with it, I thought maybe it was mixed lower and it sounded fine. Then the comparisons came in, and in the side by sides against the EVH 20 you could hear a sharp decline in sharpness and attack from the damned thing

[@irrsinnrainer]

I thought the whole time: "Well, doesn't sound awfully bad. I have heard much worse..." And then the track with the Celestion speaker came along... Damn, what a difference. And thinking about Peavey Cabs: I recorded a demo EP for a band once, where we had an Engl Cab with V30s and an 80s Peavey Cab with Sheffield Speakers and we ended up using both. We had four rhythm tracks and used one track Engl, one track Peavey for each side and blended them. Amp (Framus Cobra) stayed the same. Sound worked for that particular recording but if I remember correctly the Peavey was just blended in a bit and the Engl cab did the heavy lifting.

[@shreder75]

I've heard much worse from much "better" gear. Hardly the most awful sound I've ever witnessed

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Play the mix at 5:55, you'll understand what I mean.

[@davidjairala69]

@@SpectreSoundStudios I thought it sounded ok too, then I saw that part and was like "oh THAT'S what he was going for?" 😂

[@petepeterson5639]

I didn't really care for the blend, but I was fine with either speaker on their own. Different strokes...

[@LordofDiamondsMetal]

Yeah, it sounded really good actually, particularly soloed. Nice grindy top end and a mid character that isn't overbearing like today's "vocal mids" guitar tones. Very different from the EVH speaker but there's no reason why it shouldn't work fine

[@grzegorznapkine4073]

Yeah no, the sheffield by itselfs sounds thin and fizzy, blended it sounds uneven and weird, It just doesn't work in that mix.

[@Anvilshock]

Hearing that difference in the direct comparison was like somebody had found some phase switch and pushed or released it. Or pushed in a stereo jack properly that wasn't fully inserted. This is a proper sledgehammer example of how subjective human senses can be and how easily they can get used to things. Really drives the importance of A/B comparison home.

[@thegreatgambeeno]

I was expecting the D-Tuna. I had one break on me during a gig, had to improv playing in E while tuned to drop-D for a song with some big open shape chords for the chorus. That was as fun as getting my balls stuck in cyclonic fencing while running from the cops.

[@legacyShredder1]

How did it break?? I used them for years, and never had a problem.

[@JohnSmith-ki2eq]

Blending shit in with gold, this reminds me of a discussion I had way back with a friend. My stereo system came with some very deep bass speakers and I wired in a set of cheapo shit tier speakers along side them, my buddy couldn't understand why I did that and I informed him that the cheap ones "filled in" certain frequencies that seemed to be missing from the expensive set.

[@CyberChrist]

6:30 Is the only moment I found it sounded _really_ bad... and we don't hear it much on leads either. I don't get the hate against Sheffields, they did good work at reasonable prices in my Peavey Bandit 112s.

[@georgoroth]

So true, for some reason, peavey bandit 112 were great! But the scorpio series were better for me, amazing little extremely aggressive rehearsal amp

[@CyberChrist]

@@georgoroth Never heard those, but of course, amps must be studied for their speakers ^^ And perhaps that's part of the problem, there.

[@georgoroth]

@@CyberChrist totally agree, do you remember the bandit 112 had a tag with the sheffield logo on it? There's was the same amp with an scorpion logo on it, the speaker was kinda square looking aluminum framed thing

[@CyberChrist]

@@georgoroth Oh, OK, I don't think I've seen or heard one of those ^^ Was this speaker used in subsequent evolutions?

[@jsullivan2112]

Nostalgia does funny things. The Bandit is ass. I played through one again not too long ago and it's a turd.

[@riangarianga]

I keep hearing these days the Celestion EVH is a «custom-made speaker for EVH». It's not: it's just the original Celestion G12M-67 Greenback Heritage Series with an EVH sticker on the back. Short story: when EVH wanted something closer to those old Greenbacks (or Blackbacks) he used to use, they sent him a few G12M Heritage to evaluate. And he was good, requiring no tuning. More recently, Celestion removed the G12M Heritage from their product line and kept just the EVH, but the old frequency charts and tech data can still be found on their website, besides being able to find online multiple interviews to Celestion representatives or engineers confirming they were the same speaker. Trying to contradict this fact, there were also tests «proving» they're different speakers. But there are also music production tutorials showing how 4 speakers of the same kind installed in the same 4x12 can sound vastly different. Fun fact: the Celestion EVH used to be sold cheaper than the G12M Heritage. People who knew and wanted the G12M Heritage just bought he EVH instead.

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

Something tells me that the speaker was designed with the absurd volume levels that Eddie would play at in mind. Maybe that's why those high mids are so shelfed off. There's a great video that Owen from Circle Of Tone did with the Sheffields and pairing it with the HM-2. Also Why Can't This Be Love is a great song.

[@CYB3RC0RP]

Your opinion on Eruption VS Why Can't This Be Love is the same as mine when I was like 13. Now I realize a truly enlightened listener appreciates both. Open your heart to Why Can't This Be Love, Glenn.

[@aragorn767]

So on my second listen, for LEAD tones, I actually liked that static-bright flavor coming from the Sheffield's more so then the EVH, though the EVH blows them away on the rhythm track.

[@MattHepworth]

Hahaha! Great video. I, unfortunately, worked for a dealer at this time (around 2000) and did recording and mixing part-time. I never expressed this publicly, but I could never get over the fizz. When I first used the 5150 with a Vintage 30 I was floored. Completely different beast. The Greenback can also be fizzy, so I can't say Peavey got it wrong, but of all the Greenbacks I've owned only one of them is truly exceptional and sounds nothing like the others. It's a 90s 8ohm. Never leaving my studio...

[@MetalRobotReviews]

I spent about 6 and a half minutes wondering what was wrong with this speaker... and then the comparisons came up. HOLY SHIT WHERE DID THE BODY GO!? We went from full and rich guitar tones to so much fuzz, the bass player forgot to be turned up!

[@Wardell43]

You are so wrong on this. The 5150 series was an affordable answer to the JCM 800 And the Sheffield Speaker are indestructible as well as a decent sounding speaker and Made in the USA

[@flextape5994]

I actually don't think it sounds that bad. A little fuzzier than your average sound, but wasn't that part of Eddie's tone? Eddie was a rock player, not a metal player, and this cab fits the sound of Van Halen, at least in my opinion.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Listen to the mix at 6:00 with the EVH Speaker

[@Gibsons-hq1xv]

Glenn i saw the video on the peavey cab and was really surprised. I have a Peavey 5150 combo which is 60 watts with 2 Shitfeilds 8:14 as you call them. The EVH G12 Celestion replacement speakers are 20 rated at 20 watts. Would you recommend going with the Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers rates at 30 Watts

[@allendean9807]

A fun video, but I’m most enamored with that BASS tone!! Massive, bell like, beautiful.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Coming soon from Spectre digital!

[@allendean9807]

@@SpectreSoundStudios dammit- another plug in I’ll have to buy. Bass tones are often way more important to a well balanced heavy song than most people realize.

[@marsvoltron]

HEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY GLEN! Love the gear reviews and all the speaker comparisons you have put in so much time to get done. Went in on some Creamback G12H 75 watt speakers for my cheap Marshall 4x12 cab that had some low end G12 412MG speakers. Soo much better. Even did a before and after recording to verify and man is it night and day. Cleans, crunch, distortion.....it's all so much clearer on better speakers. The glassy highs and flubbed lows are gone and I am just blown away at how much better it sounds in room and in recordings. Thanks a ton for saving me the hassle of looking at different amp heads.

[@ABlankAndrew]

That demo track is one of the best I've heard from you Glenn!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Thanks very much, Andrew! We had some amazing players!

[@citadelasoundproduction9412]

Check out the guitar player's band Quasarborn! :)

[@travisspaulding2222]

The best I've ever heard the 5150 cabs is with an 80s glam metal tone. They do not do well with a high gain metal tone, so trying to get an In Flames sound from these cabs was an uphill battle. If he wanted to sound more like Dokken, I think it would have been fine.

[@spudwashington3880]

I actually kinda liked how it sounded in the mix . Wasn’t to heavy was just enough to show attitude and the leads stood out and so did the other instruments .

[@travisspaulding2222]

I think the Sheffields do fine with an 80s glam metal guitar tone. It's when you try to do high gain metal tones that the speakers really underperform.

[@spudwashington3880]

@@travisspaulding2222 heavy is an attitude for me . It’s not the amount of gain on the distortion channel.

[@travisspaulding2222]

Right, but you'd be hard pressed to play heavy death metal riffs through a Twin Reverb straight through, lol. Heavy is a state of mind, but there are still certain tools that sound better than others.

[@spudwashington3880]

@@travisspaulding2222 ya you make a point , I guess . Deth metal is a one trick pony style of music any ways . Not many out fond of it . So I don’t really consider that style as viable .

[@bigmike2149]

7:58 Was not expecting that. Priceless brother. 😂👍🏻

[@sillyness3456]

For some reason, you made the Sheffield sound useable. But that might just be 24 years of experience going into the mix. It had a very 90s vibe, while the mix with only the EVH had more of an 80s vibe.

[@TaylorDanley]

Wait, I like the 5150 cab, am I bad? I’m so confused…

[@aleksas.3143]

Same here, i prefer the sheffields, i thought i read it wrong at first 🤣

[@matthewpage789]

I’m thrilled to hear your take on these speakers! I picked up a 4x12 5150 for nearly nothing and hated the sound. I replaced the speakers with Eminence Wizards (as used in a Basson cab I tried in a studio) and loved it. Those Sheffields are indeed awful.

[@ThemFuzzyMonsters]

Since Peavey had their own speaker manufacturing facility, they weren’t about to pay Celestion for Greenbacks … the Sheffield was the last thing to be developed for the launch of the 5150 line. It is unfortunate because the cabs are really well built, better than the Marshall’s of the time.

[@RiloRox]

I cant be the only one who thought that didnt sound half as bad as glenn was saying... I really liked the sound...

[@ckaras100]

Hey glen, what advice do you have on replacing speakers? I'm never sure what wattage of speakers to get for my amps. How does the wattage of the speaker affect the amp's sound and functionality? For example a 50 watt amp being played through a 60watt speaker vs a 30 watt speaker. Best, Chris

[@jordanheyvaert6204]

Glenn, Thanks for all the great videos! I'm about to start releasing music. Could you help explain how to add copywrites and how to add music to streaming platforms? Thanks again, and FU Glenn.

[@PaulCooksStuff]

Services like distrokid (and others) will do the legwork for you, for a fee. An episode of Glenns take on the pros/cons of the distributors would be interesting.

[@SalAvenueNJ]

I have a question. I record with a Fender Blues Jr.. And the grill cloth makes it very hard to see the speaker. I have to use a flashlight so I can make sure where the speaker is and that I'm pointing the amps in the right place. Is the grill cloth really necessary ? Or is there a way I can mark out where the speaker is ON the grill cloth so I know I'm pointing my mics in the right place ?

[@larsge]

Always thought it had a "cat got it's tail stepped on" sound... And now you gave us a pretty good explanation why that is Glen, Awesome!! 🤘😎

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Yeah, I once learned the hard way that when you close the back of a closed back speaker, it's best to remove any cats that may be snuggling in the insulation! )

[@larsge]

@@Bob-of-Zoid Haha 😄

[@TargetHHH101]

My 2nd 4x12 was a mid 00's 5150 cab, I was using a valveking 4x12 at the time and I liked the 5150 more despite the weight difference and less wattage, it sounded better and when I ran both cabs together I got an interesting tone through a gen 2 vk head. This was back in 2015 when I finally jumped up to a tube amp after playing solid state combos my whole life. Ive worked my way up to rectifiers and matching 2x12 cabs and can never go back to what I had, but I am grateful for having them when I did. I definitely prefer a v30, and while I do agree with your view that musicians should try new things, I also feel if its not broke dont fix it, mesa heads with v30s work, my band is more grunge/rock than we are metal, but it works. But that being said I love these fearless gear reviews they help a lot of people save time and money, however if on a budget and can get a used 5150 cab, id say go for it, it will get you by and it can always be worse. Studio wise would be a little different but for the in the room sound which can vary a lot from room to room, just like mic to mic. And in all honesty yes the evh speaker did sound better but the mix of the sheffield was pretty clean and didnt sound that bad.

[@robbiehughes8382]

a more fitting comparison would be the song “Without you” because your guitar sound will be better without these speakers

[@jaywhy3178]

Just rewatching and catching up on some vids while Glenn is taking time off to take care of his family.

[@michaelsnydermusic]

same

[@taylorthemusicteacher]

They’re really brittle imo but not the worst things I’ve heard. If I was in a situation where I had to choose between these and something else, I’d definitely go for the latter, but if I only had these I don’t think it would be the end of the world.

[@prezbass]

Admittedly, I'm not a metal guy, however I do enjoy your videos- and this one is just off the charts great! When you first started playing at the top of the video, I thought, "well, that doesn't sound terrible"- until you started a/b'ing the parts and WHOO BOY- that Peavey sounds BAD. As an engineer, I've tracked MANY 5150 cabs over the years and have noticed on more than one occasion the "fizz" you mentioned and now I know why. (to me, the Shitfield's sound like they have "no focus" more than a "fizz") Or, to put it another way, I'm a bass player and even I could hear the difference. Keep up the good work, Glenn- it is appreciated.

[@MrJAYSINc]

Thank you! I've been saying it for years. I had a 5150 half stack and it sounded like dog shit with my 5150 cab but sounded amazing though my Marshall and Mesa cabs. Every time I'd say something every Peavey cab owner would feel the need to defend their shit cabs. The 5150 head is a amazing amp but that cab sounds like dookie

[@craytonbuchanan]

I picked up a used Peavey 6505 cabinet at a pawn shop about a week ago for a killer price. While the old 5150 cabs use Sheffield speakers, the 6505 cabs use Celestion Vintage 30 speakers! You never what you may find in a pawn shop!

[@nedsdonutshop]

When I see or hear the name "Sheffield" in my head I hear Fran Drescher from that show the Nanny saying "Mister Sheffield!" Apparently that's more or less what these speakers sound like. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJvdgHaAfNSmaZo

[@SalAvenueNJ]

A while ago I bought a Peavey bass cabinet and A Trace Elliot Amp head but I've never been happy with the sound. So I decided to replace the speaker. I ordered an Eminence American Standard. And when I got to original speaker out of the cabinet I saw it was a Sheffield speaker. And I'm quite happy with the cabinet now.

[@mungolius2262]

Wow Glenn, you definently are improving on your guitar skills! Keep going brother

[@charlesmerfeld2988]

I second that.

[@finnsterling6514]

"Eruption" to "Why Can't This Be Love?" is 100% correct. (Although I would've used anything/everything from FAIR WARNING to really drive the point home; Van Hagar would not have even dared venture out on a "Mean Street"...)

[@chriscorral6365]

One of the guitarists in my first band had a Peavey transtube head, and bought the matching cab with the sheffield speakers in it. ...just a fizzy mess. He sucked as a guitarist anyway, so that didn't help either. But I tried to work with it, and.... yeah, was the cab (I guess because of the sheffields). Blech

[@howler9171]

The guitarist in my current band uses a boss metal zone in front of the clean channel of his Orange head, into a garbage unbranded 4x12" that he stuck v30's in. Sounds absolutely atrocious and it's a shame because he's a really good player. Tried explaining to him that he should ditch distortion pedals and use a clean boost in front of his amp but he doesn't get it

[@jsullivan2112]

Transtubes were garbage, so in your case you were dealing with a shit head and a shit cab. Just a shit stack.

[@jsullivan2112]

@@howler9171 Or at least just buy a good distortion pedal.

[@howler9171]

​@@jsullivan2112 He doesn't need a distortion pedal at all, he already has the perfect amp for the style of metal we play. All he needs to do is switch over to the dirty channel, put a TS9 or a blues driver or some other boost in front of it and he would immediately sound better using the same gear he already has

[@jsullivan2112]

@@howler9171 Does he own a boost pedal? The metal zone can be used as a boost.

[@PippPriss]

I thought the Sheffield sounded absolute stunning by itself, nice grit to it. But yeah, as soon as the mix comparison kicked in, I knew absolutely, why you roasted that cabinet so hard. And what I heard in the comparison matched 100% with the impression I had a few years back when I regularly tried to like the Peavey cab (former guitar player in the band was a 5150 nuthead and had the MKI, MKII and the cab at his place, and I often played through his rig).

[@whiskybravo4648]

“It sounds like fried assholes” - Glen “Fuck you Glen” Fricker

[@douglasdog1]

From what I’ve heard from the designer of the amp, everything was approved by Eddie and it was a very long progress to get that amp to market because Ed was very particular.

[@PooNinja]

Oooh I can’t wait to see the angry comments on this one 🤣

[@PaulCooksStuff]

Butthurt of the week, special 4 hour edition ...

[@Cosmohalloween2391]

@@PaulCooksStuff 😆

[@vincemcman4086]

I also don’t hear a tremendous difference between the two and the arrangements aren’t exactly the same so the part with the slower chugging and the lead/octave chord I was using to compare the wetness isn’t there on the second speaker test. I think maybe in person though there’s probably an audible difference. I can believe that for sure

[@le0_fx]

Glenn you are WRONG wih your opinion, that cab sounds all good on my phone

[@blacksaltscotland]

Cabinet experiment with types of grills?!

[@Tkolbo_]

But Glenn, I loved hauling my big heavy shitty sounding ugly cab to gigs! It was a humbling experience and when I got a Marshall cab with gt75s it made me realize how much good tone I was missing out on….I really wanted to love my 5150 cab, but at the end of the day all I could do was look at it angrily and shake a middle finger at it.

[@mkdawson1908]

I totally agree! Back when the 5150 first came out, I built my touring rig with a rack mounted Peavey Classic 60 power amp and a Digitech tube preamp. One of the cabs I looked at was the 5150 4x12. It was horribly shrill. I didn't know much about speakers at the time except that Celestions were good, lol! But I figured I'd be safe with Marshall, so I tried a 1960a and it sounded pretty darn good with my racked rig. But the cab I ultimately went with was a lower-end Peavey 4x12 loaded with different Sheffield speakers - I don't recall if they were the 1290 or the 1230, but that cab sounded absolutely glorious (again - late 80s/early 90s context for metal tones!). That cab sounded nothing like the EVH 5150 cab.

[@kennhern]

At first, I thought it sounded fine, but when in the context of the mix, it sounded thin. And if it sounds thin even in the studio, imagine how it must be playing live

[@tbirdpunk]

Depends on front of house and if there is a second guitarist in the band... if it sounds bad on stage the house mixer will just bury you behind the better sounding guitarist, haha.

[@RasCuban33]

Does the same go for the 1230 Sheffield, I’m about to get a 8 ohm EVH and build 2x12 to blend the two after watching this!🧐

[@Exsteeler]

Why don’t you just turn the bass knob up? Or play better?

[@shreder75]

Lol

[@KidNato]

Shefields ruined my perception of the 5150 to this day. I can't think of a 5150 and not associate it with the 'can of angry bees' sound of Sheffields. I'm old and got to try the 5150 on release. I walked away after 5 minutes thinking it was a buzzy POS, only to be shocked down the road at what a 5150 could do without Peavey speakers.

[@armandolopez180]

Me, an average black metal enjoyer at 0:34 - "hey that sounds pretty neat"

[@Mega_trav]

Just curious- have you had bad experience with all Shetfield speakers? I had a Bandit red strip many years ago and it had a 1230 in it. I sold the amp but now I am wondering if I should have put a new speaker in it

[@huggniceman4975]

That back and forth in the shootout, made it seem like Glenn has a button on his board that just has a "shit" label above it.

[@johnchristopher0music]

I used to have one of these. My first big amp. Live and studio engineers used to always have such a tremendous difficulty getting a good sound miking it. It all makes sense now.

[@TheSteFanden]

Hell, I love the 5150 as well as the 6505(that I bought as a replacement, when my 5150 got stolen), but it didn't take me long to replace the original Peavey Cabinet with, well simply, a standard Marshall cab(1960, I think). I'm not much of a nerd, when it comes to gear, but the sound difference between the Peavey and the Marshall cabinets was so massive, there was just no contest...

[@alekz03]

Glenn, what are your thoughts about the Daking FET III 2-channel Compressor and the WesAudio Beta76 FET Compressor/Limiter? I am searching for a compressor for tracking.

[@destructivedaz]

What does the cab sound like with a different speaker out if interest like the wgs reaper. Or the black backs?

[@mikeholmed7029]

Im curious why you didnt try a V30 since Ed wanted to emulate a worn V30 sound?

[@216trixie]

I think he's been trying to bury V30s for a while now.

[@kennhern]

The V30 is quite a cliché now that some producers are trying to stay away from it because it sounds like any other band

[@jeffhirshberg5171]

Is there a marked difference between the Grindstein pedal and plugin?

[@dorkaudio6171]

i got an ESP uitar (finally) converted to drop-C, but i can't find any sound that would fit fine with it. Any help?

[@PaulRox]

Would this same take also apply to stock 6505 cabs as well?

[@djsusan00]

What kind of speakers doe the 6505 cab have?

[@amatas83]

Certainly have run across people that didn't like the 5150 cab. I have a straight cab that I've used for a while and I've enjoyed the dark and tighter bottom end it can give as I run brighter amp tones so it balances out. Then when I mixed in a V30 with the out of favor Sheffield I found it works quite nicely.

[@Wh33lsofFortune]

I have the Peavey 4x12 that came with the Sheffield 1290s. It has the metal front cover. I have it matched with my ultra plus 120, except I swapped out 2 of the speakers for vintage 30s. Really happy with how they sound together. I'm using a little known pedal called the "amptweaker defizzerator" thru the fx loop to help with fizziness. It's my secret weapon. They're super hard to find which is weird.

[@Morroh]

Funny enough this is the cab that was used on Gojira's The Way of All Flesh Album. So YMMV.

[@MrSchism]

Nah. Worst product with his name strapped to it was the little 5150 micro half-stack for use in desktop. This is a close second, though.

[@TheBlackRam666]

So how's it compare with the infamous G12T75s though?

[@paperstreet_studio]

does anyone have any experience of that Cort KX500 Menace Glenn is using? i'm on the look out for a reasonably priced super strat style guitar and that looks like it could fit the bill.

[@aamado1013]

Thought it was gonna be the Icon head. None of the demos have me wanting to replace my 5153 for at least another century.

[@sylfan1]

It sounds like the Sheffields were trying to be the speaker version of a Boss Metal Zone.

[@tropicalwhiskers3922]

Any tips for recording Synths in a metal context?

[@yoadmaimon2007]

any chance you put an impulse response of that celestion?

[@RobbDizzl]

Kudos to the creators of that demo track, it's awesome!

[@BeTheAeroplane]

Reminds me of the aughts when all the magazines were telling us that rock tone was gain at 11 and absolutely no mids, except backwards. All mids, no presence at all.

[@johnhynesproductionslimite7522]

GLEEEEENNN…I got my 5150 half stack back in 95’…I have the bottom stack (not slant)…I was told that the top had more mids and the bottom had more bottom end…I had no idea if it was true or not but being a metal kid I went for the bottom…is there a difference? Does the geometry change the tone at all? Love your channel..Cheers!!!

[@NikoFrederiko.]

What speakers came stock in the 6505 cabs?

[@wollace3125]

What is the model on that Cort bass? That thing looks sick, and I can't find a bass w/humbuckers (full size, not the soapbars) on their current offerings....

[@bobowrathsovine.]

So is it fault of the Sheffield speaker and Peavey's 5150 cabinet as to why those amps never sounded anything like EVH tone?

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Correct

[@KyleP133]

I got a 5150 cab really cheap 15 years ago and came to the same conclusion. It's got Vintage 30s in it now. Pretty happy with it. I think the terrible speakers keep them cheap so if you've got some Celestions laying around you can make a nice cab out of it. But we have so many good, cheap cab options these days it's a little tougher to justify.

[@DrBRockstar2000]

Hey, man!! Do you think you could help me put some V30s in my 5150 cab? I'm beginning to not like the sound of the "Shitfields" like Glenn would say!!

[@CheesybiscuitStudios]

This explains why I've always seen people pair a 5150 with a Mesa oversized or rectifier cab. I played a 6505 today with the matching cab and while it didn't sound like complete shit I have definite heard better even coming from a 6505 or 5150.