I won't be able to do this any more!

[@jasonc4643]

I remember when you could buy decent motors for £500!!

[@davewhittles]

and me there are still cars you can pickup under a grand

[@jasonc4643]

@@davewhittles when I think of some of the motors I bought for peanuts 15-20 years ago, enjoyed for a while then sold for peanuts, how things change

[@445fhn]

£60 for me, from under the railway arches

[@thatpeskyswan]

You'd be really lucky to get a running, driving and motd motor that's not a complete lemon for under a couple grand nowadays, even scrap values on cars are mental, customers dead L200 pick up has a scrap value of £500 and that's with a noisy bottom end. Bizarre

[@davidquinn5906]

My best was a £100 Allegro. It's main distinction was when I parked it at Heathrow it cost more to park than it did to buy.

[@Jack-lo1uc]

Good to see someone who takes pride in the cars they sell, even at this price point. I went to see a car at a Vauxhall main dealer and it was a right mess!

[@TheBlaert]

I haven't bought an expensive car in years. My last car was a £160 Passat Estate 130bhp TDi with a blown head gasket. Fixed it for £300 and still have it 10 years later. Last year I bought a 2005 Passat 130 TDi Highline with full leather trim and black paint for £225. Just needed a full set of brakes and a few minor bits and pieces. I fixed it and stuck 2 wings on it too, as it only had 120k miles on it. Final cost was £675 and after a few days cleaning it's like a new car

[@carl235]

I’ve been a car dealer for 13 dealers. Back then everyone sold the cheaper cars as part exchanges to clear, they were cheap and the majority of buyers were ok. They knew if the engine blew or of clutch went they’d get a refund. There’s no way we could do that now. Expectations are too high, you’d just be setting yourself up for trouble. The reality for most reputable dealers is there’s no love lost. A customer buying a 20k car is much easier to deal with than someone buying a 2k car.

[@clubsport_46330]

Cracking job there, cleaning under the bonnet and all for a cheap car, you’re an absolute legend

[@jonburgess4179]

this man is too nice for his own good

[@sanchoodell6789]

Its amazing how modern these cars still are. Its like they were made last week! Great value buy.

[@The-Hectic]

I love your honesty and its a shame that there are people out there who just don't understand how difficult it can be to sell a used car with no comeback. Unfortunately there are rogue traders out there who don't give a damn.

[@DJWenlowe]

I went to Court once regarding a poorly rebuilt engine, I had independent engineer reports and the Judge was so ignorant and downright rude that I couldn't believe it. He held up the reports and asked me in a really indignant tone, if I expected him to read them. Moral of the story, avoid courts like the plague . Judges are answerable to no one and can be really unreasonable people. I decided to cut my losses but never again

[@Rapscallion2009]

To be fair, The Judge does have very limited time due to case volumes. So you provide a summary and if the opponent challenges it you then refer to the engineers report to back up your position. I'm not a Lawyer, but I understand that's how it's done. But. There's ways of explaining this to people, and the judge perhaps could have been more diplomatic.

[@paulphillipson2378]

Courts are useless, a friend had his case thrown out because his car was old, and the judge thought not worthy of a £1k repair bill. Had no interest in cause of failure or who was to blame. They live in a different world and care not for the oiks only transport.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

I had one recently and same thing judge didn't really listen and couldn't even pronounce some of the car terms, obviously I lost.

[@zeez4178]

​@@Rapscallion2009absolutely NO excuse !

[@jmills1549]

I remember buying a decent citroen diesel for £100......7 years later it's still going strong (2006 1.6hdi)......but finding the next £100 car is a bit hard now. 😂😂

[@zm321]

Back in the early 2000's I was regularly buying circa 12 year old family cars such as Sierra's, Cavaliers etc for as little as £50 in the trade, they were usually with long MOT's fairly presentable and useable. This was back when we had to pay to have scrap cars removed because they were worthless. Then in about 2005 ish a scrap car was suddenly worth about £400. The very cheap end of the used market changed at this point and then again in 2009 when scrappage was introduced. Cars in general also started getting more expensive in the last recession and never really went back down. This coincided with many smaller family owned franchised dealers opting to sell up to the big corporates at this point. Most of the big corporates have an auction policy when getting rid of the older px's, or they run there own online auctions like Sytner. The fees that the likes of BCA then charge are insane and inflationary and has led to cheap cars being no longer cheap. The small used car dealer doesn't benefit from any of this and neither does the public.

[@TechBaffle]

I've never seen a Honda Logo before. What a cool little car! Looks very nice after a clean!

[@stevenewton7787]

Same didn't even know they existed lol

[@squigbobble4602]

@@stevenewton7787 I think that Honda couldn't make them cheaply enough to make a profit on them in UK so they didn't bother selling them here.

[@Dave-Huston-Dublin]

I think it's crazy that the manufacturer wont stand over a car after 2 or 3 years from new, yet a used car dealer is supposed to.

[@ChopsGarage]

Mad eh

[@EnglishroG]

That's a very good point.

[@ViscountAlbany]

I used to get trade ins sold as "spares or repair" for well under 1000 from dealers short years ago. It never occurred to me that the dealer might be liable in any way for future repairs. the driveshaft broke on a nissan within 6 months after purchase one time. Thanks for the video

[@ChopsGarage]

If sold spares and repair , and they did not let you test drive it then you would not of had comeback

[@Geshmaal]

I think Cat cars are more viable as a runabout these days, as long as it's non-structural damage. That's the way I've ended up going at least!

[@willh9386]

Absolute nightmare on that end of the car market at times. You can see why the big franchise businesses just do up to a set miles and age. Thanks for the update on the business it’s the best channel on you tube ..

[@ChopsGarage]

Much appreciated bud

[@petesmith2234]

I think the days of any cheap car are numbered. When I started driving, I bought my mums old mini from her, a year or so later the gearbox gave up. I couldn’t afford to take it to a garage, so bought the Haynes manual and sorted it myself. At the end of the day, you could buy another engine and/or gearbox from the breakers for £50 even if the old one was toast. I wouldn’t want to be doing the same thing nowadays with manufacturers making things difficult for anyone but a main dealer especially, especially with an EV for example.

[@BionicRusty]

8 years ago I bought a Ford Fiesta off a friend of a friend for £150. I needed a runaround because my XF had just blown up, as they do. I drove it for a few months and passed it on to someone else in need for a similar reason. It was a cracking little car. Impossible to find anything like that, now.

[@AUTORECOVERYUK]

Plenty of cheapies down here in Sunny Suffolk. For example I recently sold the following. 60 plate Passat 20 Tdi 6 speed estate full history I serviced it fitted new rear coil springs inlet manifold with swirl flaps and glow plugs. Valet advisory free Mot and a warranty. I sold it for £1450. 57 plate diesel Toyota Avensis 1 owner full history years Mot service and warranty £1350. I offered you a 62 plate Chevrolet Cruze estate 1 owner full history 50444 miles I serviced it and put on a advisory free Mot for £1500 and you turned it down lol .

[@hamish856]

Skoda Yeti looks like an elegance model. It will need timing belt and Halden service at that year of car. I have 2 myself . It is re commented by Skoda to get belts and water pump done 5 years or 35k the same with the Halden service. Enjoyed your latest video

[@wintersun398]

how would you rate the Yeti?

[@martinbowyer5749]

Haldex service 😊

[@frimleyfrodo]

We’ve had 2 Yetis and love them. The latest one threw its differential halfway through France despite the Haldex having been serviced twice in 6 years/70k miles. No idea why it did it. Looks like a bearing let go inside the diff. Skoda dealer wanted £5k - I bought a 40k diff unit off a crashed Yeti for £325 with 6 month warranty and fitted it with a mate helping. Total cost with new fluids and beer money about £750. No further problems after another 18 months and 10k miles.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Any small auto, any age is worth big money now, everything does 1500 quid upwards at auction so you did the right thing on your Honda, I put a micra auto on and calls started at 6.45 am.

[@johnpritchard2772]

Hello James, what a lot of work you have done to get this car sorted. Agree that you have to make changes on what you are able to buy in , to make a living!! mEnjoyable to watch - best wishes from Lincolnshire

[@ChopsGarage]

Thanks John

[@mikebreen2890]

In my last country, the powers that be decided that no dealer could sell a car with less than a one year warranty, bumper to bumper. It killed the bottom end of the market stone dead or you paid a fortune for an old car. Consumer protection and the laws of unintended consequences.

[@ChopsGarage]

Exactly thanks for this it's exactly what I say , we will through sub 10k customers to the wolves

[@wayland7150]

"Consumer protection and the laws of unintended consequences." - Consumer persecution and the laws of engineered consequences. FIFY They have decided motorists are bad so they are picking us off where we're vulnaerable.

[@chriswilliams6613]

Its just a covert way of getting rid of old cars of the road moving us closer to "green" future.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

I got a 2005 Nissan Micra 8 years ago for £1250. Just a bit of welding under the headlamp for this years MOT. I welded it myself so cost nothing. I told my friend to get a Nissan after loads of problems with Vauxhall`s. Now I never hear of him having a problem.

[@interceptor-ss8kb]

Big problem why second hand cars prices are so high, is companies like cinch have been selling large amounts of UK cars abroad so there are less cars available.

[@micksroversmg558]

Lots of big dealers are still offering scrappage schemes too on Cars over 10 years old again too! It is a waste I run a 23 year old rover 420 diesel 200k miles on it and it runs a dream! Make old cars great again is the best way!

[@michaelhynds8035]

Retailing cars is really tough, especially for this market. Well done.

[@limpet7r63]

£2,000 cars at dealers were always £500-£750 cars with a warranty. Now, £500 cars in working order simply don’t exist.

[@Gazzxy]

tell me about it.. last time I looked only cars in that area were some sort of cat car / basically a wreck or very near.

[@souralba2727]

Managed a 2007 1.2 fabia with 130k on it last August for £350 as a get by when my van was off the road. Only had a month's mot on it but flew through only needing control arm bushes. Still got it and I've put 25k on it. Plenty kicking about on marketplace sub £700 if your willing to take a punt.

[@davercs]

Another great video james I love the way you run your business I have been watching you from the beginning of your journey its been great seeing your business grow keep up the great work

[@ChopsGarage]

Much appreciated Dave

[@adrianstephens5183]

Top Tip if you think you have a brake binding just hold your hand near the wheel and you will know which one is binding. You don,t need a thermal image camera

[@ChopsGarage]

You can also cook food in ovens without the need of an air fryer, or watch dvds instead of paying for netflix. Plenty of ways to skin a cat.

[@benholroyd5221]

@@ChopsGarage I believe ovens that cool food are called fridges.

[@zm321]

and also look at the brake dust, more dust on one wheel is a giveaway.

[@contactacb]

I would also think that, depending on what part of the UK you are in, the older but low mileage car market (or indeed any older car) is going to be affected by the increasing number of ULEZ type schemes where these older cars would cost the user a fortune in daily charges. I've seen van owners trying to sell of their pre-Euro 6 vans and wondering why no one is biting at would once have been a fair private sale price.

[@terrystratford1235]

I live near Bristol UK. I have a 2001 wj jeep with a 4.7 V8 petrol engine. Bristol has a ULEZ, DUE to the age of my jeep, it's exempt!

[@contactacb]

@@terrystratford1235 makes a mockery of the whole scheme, it's not as if a 2001 vehicle will be historical or vintage, but their loss is your gain!😆

[@terrystratford1235]

@@contactacb 😅👍I couldn't be live it when I checked online! I drive maybe 3000miles if that in my jeep a year! I have a 2002 1.9 tdi 55mpg city, 70mpg motorway! That's not exempt! 18mpg ULEZ friendly, 70mpg dangerous emissions! Go figure😅😄😃🤣

[@jonjames7328]

@@terrystratford1235I think you’re mistaken. My 2000 Porsche 996 didn’t make the cut. Neither does your vehicle as I understand things. The cut off year for European compliance was 2005 I think. My friends 2006 Yaris passes as does another friends 2005 or 2006 Porsche 997. This is all in Bristol.

[@eskimojulie]

Its tax that makes it so difficult I recon , tax on parts tax on labour tax on the difference between the buying price and the selling price , tax on the price of renting a premises . Guess who is on to a good thing ?

[@cliffordison5004]

Brilliant video James. I am glad Logo has gone to a family who will enjoy and make good use of it. Lovely to see all the good work you did on it - transformed it. Well done!

[@ChopsGarage]

Glad I did you proud Clifford! Many thanks again

[@paulphillipson2378]

You got anymore Logos for sale? I did this to mine youtu.be/zzJxY2BU3 and regret selling it 😢

[@F4Insight-uq6nt]

That Logo would make a good shell for VTEC engine and manual Transmission.

[@paulphillipson2378]

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[@paulphillipson2378]

I do miss my Logo VTEC 😂

[@paulphillipson2378]

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[@JF-RC]

I’ve never really got my head around VAT being included again on a used car? If I can explain. When new, the car would have been placed on the road and the VAT paid on the car to the government, from the first selling dealership. Then it’s traded in; the dealer then sells the car on to a new owner, as a used car, but the government has already been given the VAT when new, why do we need to be stung again for VAT on it’s used value ? All the duty for that car is been agreed and paid when it was new? You don’t go an sell a used television and charge VAT on a used item, again that would have been collected from new, by the selling retailer? Madness ! 😊😊😊😊anyway, best wishes, a nice to see a honest used car dealer,very refreshing 😊😊😊

[@andrewcheatle4691]

Bought a low mileage BMW E34 at auction for £200 in 2012 - kept it for 6 years as a daily driver & spent nothing other than a few tires brake pads and minor items. Best deal was probably a Volvo 740 estate with a short ticket bought in Sussex for £50 just had to replace one leaking auto transmission line. Bought many other cars for a lot less than £500 in the 90's & noughties - Happy days...

[@michaelgoode9555]

Not for a vehicle but I do have a similar tale. As a family lawyer divorce was a big part of my work. My client was being divorced by his soon-to-be ex for reasons not concerning the audience here. Anyway, she wanted to keep the family home which had recently had a full roof of solar panels added. Her claim (through her solicitor) was that the panels were simply part of the value of the building. My claim was that there is also an ongoing income element which needs to be shared because my client would not get the enjoyment or benefit of that income stream. The judge having listened to arguments then stated that she had recently installed solar for the exact reasons I was asserting and deemed them an income stream for the occupant. A nice victory. 🙂

[@ChopsGarage]

nice logic wins

[@darrenjukes8446]

I love the Honda cars and I still have a honda civic aerodeck 1.6 over 2000 thousand miles on the clock, and when I brought this car is just had the water pump change and cambelt

[@Dangallivan85]

James, what's the ASX doing back.....😂 Agree with you on the Mondeo, had an 07 plate for 4 years now, bought as a put me on, and I can't knock it, runs lovely at 120k miles now, really under appreciated cars. Yeti looks lovely, really nice inside, love those leather seats. Never had one but always like the Yeti.

[@c11yan]

Been to court around three times - on each occasion as long as defended correctly rarely goes to court but arbitration and they give up.

[@Rapscallion2009]

The cheapie bangers are still out there - although not as cheap as they once were - but they're on eBay, Craigslist, Facebook marketplace and so on and so forth. Dealers cannot really deal with them for the reasons given in this video. Even the cheapie trade in is rarer because people can sell to various websites direct. But really it's the strengthening of consumer rights thats buggered the low end of the market.

[@ChopsGarage]

Exactly bang on. Let us give 30days on sub 3k say that's plenty time to find any existing faults

[@Rapscallion2009]

@@ChopsGarage don't misunderstand me. The strengthening of consumer rights was in response to a (probably minority) of dealers acting like total sharks. Unfortunately now ever customer has very similar terms buying a 10 year old car that they do buying a year old one. But the thing is it costs about the same to put right a £2000 car as it does a £20,000 car with similar faults. It doesn't help that some people - including judges - have interpreted "no faults" to mean "indistinguishable from a brand new one"

[@dan44zzt231]

It just feeds into the (often but not always) dodgy driveway traders doesn't it.

[@TRD1949uk]

Need to get your valeter to get the leather matte finish. Shiny leather = dirty leather

[@anticat900]

You are a great dealer, I would have valued that car somewhat higher with that low mileage. But it is a good insight to selling cars, as I've always wondered how they make money after getting one up together for sale.

[@ChopsGarage]

Many thanks

[@Finglesham]

In 2010 a KIa dealer gave me £200 in PE for a new Piccanto I gave in a Skoda Felicia year 2000 with 50K miles fully MOT'd no rot etc. one owner from new. I was ripped off. Still I paid only £6200 for a new Piccanto with 7 year warranty. You are right. Old bangers are for the local papers and private sales.

[@johnnorth9355]

I always price in that I have to replace the belt on any motor I buy unless there is clear proof that it is not necessary. Once caught by a failed cam belt it is not a mistake to make again. When you shake hands on a deal it is a deal . I only ask that the engine and gearbox are sound.

[@MrZimmaframe]

I listened to your argument/point on cambelts, but the simple fact is as a dealer you should change the cambelt, if it is unknown when it was last changed. Not just because it saves you getting sued in court.. But because it could leave someone in a dangerous situation at the side of the road. Either way whenever I have sold a car it has always had a new one fitted, along with a water pump and pulleys if needed. As this now covers me, the customer and the car in the future. 👍 But each to their own I guess..

[@ChopsGarage]

No , I don't have to as a dealer.If I am open snd honest about when it's due and its negotiated as to whether a sale includes it or not people can decide for themselves

[@OutdoorsBritain]

I learned to drive and passed my test in a manual Honda Logo ❤ 👍🇬🇧👍

[@Robertarcher2035]

Great ! Thanks from posting . I’m looking forward to more All the best .

[@ChopsGarage]

cheers

[@shepshepherd]

The only dealer who routinely sells sub-£2000 cars in my area is a fellow who operates from his driveway and seems to do a brisk trade. I guess that most of his stock comes from the local auction.

[@AUTORECOVERYUK]

I sell plenty of sub £2000 cars see my above comment, Sold those above plus a 2009 Fiat Punto full history years Mot new battery service etc £1200 a Nissan Cube full Mot service and warranty £1750. The list goes on, and I’ve been in business running my garage for 30 odd years. It just depends where you are in the UK as cars I sell sub £2k I know others would sell at nearly double my price. My theory is small profit quick turn over.

[@mohammedusman7065]

Used to be easy money and little overheads, but traders insurance whilst trading from home is a nightmare these days

[@pauld7861]

It is still ok to do but genuinely I sell everything with 12 months advisory free mot & serviced to show I have done my part. It’s a hard job but

[@stevehackett3576]

my first buy two austin 1100s '£35 each made one good one out of the two

[@rogermoore52]

My experience of car dealers is that none seem to have ever heard of a cam belt. Whenever I’ve mentioned cambelt change they look blank and then try and tell me a belt last for 1,000,0000 miles. For sake of argument I find dealers cannot not match trade in money from we buy any car by circa £200min. On the basis we buy any car and BCA all make money and dealers must be buying the cars as BCA is trade only, surely it’s costing more money than taking cars from the public on trade ins?? Or as James says are all car dealers are dodgy 😂 present company accepted. Ps is James the only person who still buys autoglym products. I bet he’s got some back to black and womderwheels somewhere.

[@worldhello1234]

@11:08 You don't need no comeback if you are streetwise or do your due diligence before committing to a purchase from a private seller. 🤔 On the bright side, if there is no market for ultra cheapies, there is no market for Karens, either. 🤗

[@Gazzxy]

my dad had a 4x4 yeti.. loved it but said wasn't worth the hassle, the 4x4 system was too complicated kept eating the gearbox of the 4x4 system. only put up with it cus it was a company car and they were paying for the repairs. that said I do love a yeti and its tempting as I want a 4x4 much more useful than a golf where I live

[@roystonvehicles9129]

Really good idea about using the camera for exhaust blows, they can be hard to locate if there minor.

[@ChopsGarage]

Cheers

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@@ChopsGarage OK bud

[@Mattlawton-ft6ew]

​@@ChopsGaragelogo Campbeltown £28 obviously with out labour 👍

[@guywhoknows]

Sales of goods includes private sales. Items mean nothing on age or price. Wear could be considered milage. But with cars designed for 3-4 years life. Or 100k miles. our car sales wouldn't consider older cars at all. I used to only sell cars that were in good condition and a MOT is only valid for two weeks from a legal/test point. Yes I know there a year. But that's the liability hence why minor or things that used to never be included are now mentioned.

[@SloopyDog]

The dealers in my area have put their cars up to ridiculous prices. High-mileage bangers are being sold for more than five times what they are worth. The reason new car prices have gone off the scale and most people can not afford to buy new anymore. You can buy a house cheaper than some car prices. The world has gone mad, greed has taken over common sense.

[@ChopsGarage]

Well thats a little like arguing house prices isnt it. Is a 2 up 2 down worth 400k, no but thats the market and dealers are not cashing in as they are having to pay far more to buy the car in first place.

[@SloopyDog]

@@ChopsGarage Well if the dealers are like the ones in this area they will want to pay as little as possible. twenty-year-old cars with150,000 miles on the clock going for £4,000 plus. The problem is as long as people are buying them, dealers will sell them.

[@ChopsGarage]

@@SloopyDog dealers are paying higher prices in first place, no one is running away with extra profit

[@SloopyDog]

@@ChopsGarage Not true. I got offered £800 for a 2012 Vw Fox with 50,000 on the clock and in good condition and all the car dealers I went to offered about the same. You must be a car dealer or live in a part of the country where dealers give people good deals. There is no such thing as a car dealer who gives a good part exchange for second-hand cars.

[@ChopsGarage]

@@SloopyDog OK so you don't pay vat on the sale, you don't have 6 months consumer law, have to pay autotrader 100s for the advert account as you are trade, pay rents and rates, give new advisory free mot, repair the dents and scrapes you were happy to live with but that no one expects from a dealer. Sure if we could sell them like you with no warranties, comeback, taxes and vat we would offer more! Sorry you have no idea of true cost of sale. PX prices are fair for the work needed to get them to the standard with comeback you want at point of sale. You want us to give you private sale value, do all that listed and sell for private sale value and still come back if any issues!

[@chrispop99]

The MOT mileage on that Yeti has barely changed in the last 5 years, which would explain the lack of service history.

[@andrewbennett7756]

I used to love the back street garages I used to call them auther daily with out the dodgey part bit miss these little garges❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@lookoutleo]

Your just a nice guy, would be happy buying a car off you. Love that wee honda . Wee Decent cars are not available at that price here, now I know why

[@ChopsGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@bradleyjones5932]

luckily i live in South Australia, we dont have anything like a MOT

[@dreammaker730]

Thats why when you want a cheap car you buy through a private sale and take an educated giess as to weather its a good car or not.

[@Ben-jq5oo]

Even pay for an inspection or bring a knowledgeable friend.

[@Mariazellerbahn]

On the other end of the scale, I put a £1,000 deposit down with Lexus - Stoke on a £19k Mercedes. The rear tyres were down to less than 2mm and I asked for two new tyres on the rear before taking ownership. They initially agreed but then said they wouldn't. I refused the car and they kept my £1k deposit. I kept an eye on the car ... they bumped the price up by £1k and still sold it with scrap tyres. It's the big dealers you need to watch.

[@alanmacmillan6957]

if that was condition of sale you could possibly get your grand back via credit card company?

[@ChopsGarage]

Did they explain prep deposit it was non refundable

[@johnfitton3716]

So youd lose a 1000 for sake of a couple of tyres

[@owensteele1645]

James, do not forget to check thoroughly the dual-mass fluwheel on that Yeti. Due to it being a carefully-driven example, I'm confident that it's fine, but they are known to break on these TDi's.

[@ChopsGarage]

How do you check a dual mass without taking gearbox out? If its not knocking then short of that you have to take it as good

[@MrAvant123]

Failure is gradual and if it sounds quiet then it should be okay for some time. I have heard of people welding DMF's solid....

[@JohnnyPaton]

@@ChopsGarageI had a 2015 Octavia with that clutch and flywheel. There’s no way to know it’s failing unless it makes a noise. And then you’ll know.

[@TheTonk44]

@@ChopsGarage . Honda Crv diesel owner. The dual mass flywheel judders regularly causing the car to shake when you pull away. That's how you know it's on its way out.

[@jonm7272]

​@@ChopsGaragehold the clutch pedal about half way down with the engine running. Should be completely smooth, any vibration at all through the pedal is bad news.

[@chriswalford9228]

Trouble is lots of the private sellers on Facebook etc are wannabe be dealers, flipping cars in their own names and not declaring or selling as trader. There are loads of them with ( no log book, buyer will have to apply) yeah right.

[@ChopsGarage]

True

[@zm321]

Yes, they're a menace.

[@davidcross1516]

The Consumer Rights Act states that the goods must be of satisfactory quality in that they are of a standard that a REASONABLE PERSON would consider as satisfactory taking into account the description, the price paid and other relevant circumstances. (Section 9(2)) So it would not be reasonable to expect a 23 year old £2000 car to be free from faults.

[@Gingerharry2011]

The unfortunate thing is (no dig at chops here he does seem the exception) dealers have taken the Mickey for years, shifting scrap on to unsuspecting customers for inflated prices. It had to happen. If you want a cheaper car you gotta buy either private or auction. And they have no come back, which is appropriate for low value cars.

[@carukchannel]

This is spot on, and the basis of how companies like lawgisitics defend dealers

[@Rapscallion2009]

The question is "what faults are reasonable?". Some people expect a new car for £500, but equally you shouldn't pay dealer premium prices and be told "wear and tear" for absolutely everything.

[@simmybear31]

The problem is the difference between a business that is set up as an 'expert' in its field in this case a car dealer, and a consumer whom the law believes has to have no expert knowledge. The law therefore generally supports it is unreasonable for a consumer to have the same knowledge as a dealer. There are many really conscientious and honest small dealers but there are sadly lots of dishonest ones.

[@davechapman5815]

The reason why there's not as many of those older cars.... They were weighed in under the scrappage scheme for no good reason...

[@crazygeorgelincoln]

My current car was given to me on account of it having a trade in value of £200. Most cars iv bought hovered around 60k miles. When looking closly it appears that the translation of fully serviced is washed. Id rather view a dirty unserviced car than have to best guess the previous life of it.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

It's totally not practical to outsource work on a cheapie, you've just got to do the whole thing yourself, cam belt, welding, service, then you've got a nice wage in it, tbh that's what everybody does who does cheaper cars, else everyones had your money and your just left with the liability.

[@desdicadoric]

I bought my Celica for 1350£ 5 years ago, best car I’ve ever had, 130k and running as well as ever. It’s actually worth more now

[@owensteele1645]

On the Skoda, as with Volkswagen, all-chrome TDI means 90bhp later 100bhp, chrome TD with a red I means 110bhp (as in this Yeti), chrome T, red DI means 115bhp later 130bhp (later PD units), and all-red TDI means 150bhp (also PD).

[@Yossarian-uj9dh]

A 63 plate would be a 2.0 common rail so I think this one will be 140bhp?

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420]

The PD engine had gone by 2013

[@benmarley3086]

I bought my 2007 Renault Clio (86000 miles) back in March for £1330. Dealer paid the road tax for us as well which was £180. Had it nearly 4 months now and had only needed to change the oil and the tires.

[@truth.speaker]

Have you checked online if it's still taxed? Had nearly the exact same experience but the dealer was lying and after a month the tax was taken away from the car

[@benmarley3086]

@@truth.speaker the dealer proved that it was taxed before I purchased the car

[@steve00alt70]

I wouldnt call that £2000 more like £500. You could say to the consumer that "the cambelt is faulty" so its at the consumers decision to buy it or not and they it has a faulty cambelt. The private dealers are expensive or at the same level as the trade sellers.

[@johnnunn8688]

I blame garages, previous owners and DIY-ers. Garages for not stamping the service record, previous owners for not checking it’s stamped and DIY-ers for not recording their work.

[@Matt-go7ss]

Was that mechanic a gp in another life? That handwriting is epic

[@Adam2050]

Ahh the advisory free MOT isn't just for looks interesting.

[@seismic6402]

I scrapped a 15 year old car recently because I thought it was the responsible thing to do. Too many things wrong with it and £150 tax on a car only worth about £2000 (if in good condition, full MOT obviously). The scrap guy assures me that it will be broken down and stripped of anything that could be reused on another car. I check the registration a couple of months later... new MOT and tax.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

bstrd!

[@S-Ltd1000]

Interesting. I'm on the lookout for a small auto for my daughter at the moment and wondered what was going on with the prices. £4 to £6k on cars in excess of 10 years old!! Finding one is even worse down here in Devon as they are so few and far between. Let me know if you have anything coming up?🙂

[@sizzler2462]

Look At Suzuki swifts had two for my daughter (she wrote off the first)😮both 57 plates cheap reliable cheap to insure first was £750 with business mileage on at 18 years old

[@ChopsGarage]

Will do its a tough market with the demand

[@johndeacetis4707]

Micra K11..not a groovy looking car ..but ten years ago..there were one or two ..automatic Micra k11.... For less than £2200..dome of those few automatic micras..may have been written off ..indursnce pay out

[@S-Ltd1000]

@@johndeacetis4707 she's actually still to pass her test but has access to the wife's k12 Micra auto. Crazy to think that car is still worth about what we paid for it 9 years ago even with a few dings on the bodywork.

[@S-Ltd1000]

@@sizzler2462 finding an auto is a problem.

[@jagjay8033]

as a buyer if you have only £2000 to spend on a second hand car. don't spend it all save £300-£500 get a £1500 just incase something happens to it like a flat tyre or burst pipe anything could happen then you are stuck without a car for months why you try to save up to fix it. everything is not in the warranty

[@J500ANT]

Yeti - got to watch the bottom of the doors where they meet, the rubber strip collects dirt and rubs paint away

[@richjones5432]

Speaking as someone who spent far too many years in the car trade ..... its fair to assume that you would of put a 6 month warranty on it yourself. The c customer may not of known this but when they brought it back, you would of known that you were claiming off a policy .. tho be it at trade rates. Do you agree or disagree ?

[@cwshtygriff13]

I agree’ and I also wouldn’t pay 2k for an old rattle canned Honda. I don’t know anyone in the trade paying a grand for this sort of px ‘especially when they are better off weighing them in . I can only guess that his traders are put off by his uploads 🤔. It puts the previous owners off the original dealer’ as he’s highlighting their profit 🤦‍♂️. Or’ he’s the typical’sell from the doorstep type’ who gets a unit eventually, but has no mechanical sympathy or knowledge. I’m guessing of course.

[@ShiftingMetal]

Should we just open an auction centre James? 🤔😅

[@FlyingFun.]

as a customer id rather pay the £600 extra knowing the work had been done properly, trouble is how do we know that the whatever dealer we are using has really done the work and not just bumping up the price ? As a trades man I made a conscious decision to ONLY do repairs to other peoples items and warrantee the repairs ONLY for 2 full years, there is simply no way I would give a warrantee on something so old and TBH I can't get my head around the expectation that such an old car should have 6 months warrantee. If I could find a trustworthy dealer near me I would much rather they just walk me through what the risks of each item is and between us agree what should be changed before the sale and what to maybe just put off for later.

[@ChopsGarage]

I provide copies of invoices for parts and the invoice from garage for labour

[@ianmatterson5632]

hi guys did chops ever find out which leather conditioner/clear Sam used, i really like the look of glossy/shiny leather but cannot lay my hands on a product that will leave anything other than a matt finish? cheers guys

[@grahamx8623]

Sound point on the £2k cars. Ill informed legislation designed to protect buyers of cheap cars beyond what's possible will mean they are left for the back street chancers to take a punt on and stitch buyers up accordingly. Bit pointless all round, well done government.😉

[@ChopsGarage]

Totally agree

[@grahambarrat2540]

Mr chops please could you tell me the stuff you use for restoring the paintwork. See you use it in your videos

[@lydiahaytack4267]

I got my first car a month a go, i got scolded by a dodgy dealership who sold me a £4500 fiat panda that after a inspection and quote for repair it needs about 700 quids worth of work, for a car or that price and the fact its a 2016 it should have been sorted. But since its on finance the finance company wont accept a car that needs repairs, the dealership is refusing to cover the repairs so im a bit stuck

[@ChopsGarage]

Depends what the repair is as to if dodgy or not. If you stuck it in a garage to have a look rather than for specific fault I'm sure they found plenty of work they would like to do but not essential

[@tonio6261]

4500 for a fiat panda you must have special needs to even buy that

[@Lou_Kyr]

Super video James. The yeti is going to be great car for someone

[@Gazzxy]

AHH I remember times when you could pick up a reasonable car that would at least get you through you first year or two of driving for about 500.... so wish I had actually gone outa my way to do my test back then.. but no I got too busy and did it last year instead, couldn't find anything worth my time or to suit my needs (being an adult with jobs and responsibilities ect) for under 2 or 3 k which was all I really wanted to spend for first year. wound up digging around and getting a 2013 golf for 7.5k which hurt.. insurance more than anything but hey at least I got a nice car that will last more than a year and be comfortable. only downside is lack of service history so I can neither confirm or deny its had a belt... dealer was a little cavalier about it saying they dont need one till 100k miles, and am sat here like...true but 10 years is plenty of time for rubber to degrade, especially when you involve heat and oil and am already racking miles faster than both previous owners combined haha. and now I find my self looking at a topdon 600s OBD, partly for the curiosity partly save some time with repairs, though my local garage dont partake in rip-offs, id feel better knowing what's going on with the car before taking it anywhere, or do some things myself like breaks which on this car need a computer to go to service mode. I duno its really tempting haha

[@BEGGARWOOD1]

How is cambelt wear and tear ? It’s a vital service item. I also imagine the fact that it had not had a cambelt would be a a reason a dealer would offer a lower price when buying a car ?

[@ChopsGarage]

? Because as you said it's a service item that wears and needs replacement. So it's a wear n tear item.

[@pcat1378]

Webuyanycar has purposely made it harder to get hold of older cars which drives up prices. There is a video of many of these cars just sat in fields which means even spare parts are an issue to get as they could be broke for spares.

[@HDsharp]

Ulez killed these budget cars.

[@mattkinsella9856]

Imagine how much tax in VAT one car can generate in it's lifetime for the government. It's insane that VAT is charged on a car sale every time it gets sold by a dealer, no matter how old it is or how many times it's been sold before. Add to that all the fuel duty, VAT on parts, car tax, insurance tax and parking charges. The government is just rinsing the motor industry and car owners.

[@ChopsGarage]

Exactly more than value of the car

[@rushymoto]

Question. What small cars in the 1L area have cheap tax and a 4 cylinder engine? By cheap tax I mean 50 pounds a year or less? and of an age where this bracket first came in ?

[@gerrardarcher]

Just bought a 2007 honda jazz manual for £2500 private sale.. definitely a £1500 car a few years ago.. not much more I could have done.. I'm buggered if I'm paying finance rates for 3or 4 years plus..

[@ChopsGarage]

Agreed

[@paulwhite2533]

I'm British with a used car dealership on Vancouver Island....we're closing

[@cabottaxi]

Just had a look at your website James . You need to update your stock list on it as most them are / have been sold a while back.

[@ChopsGarage]

It's upto date, won't be putting non prepped stock on

[@motorsportsfan]

notes :- 1) regarding advise free mots, it's not mandatory for mot testers to issue advise notes, so people selling vehicles (general public and car sales) tend to go to the mot stations/testers that do not issue advise notes. taking into account the mot is about reaching a "very minimum standard" only "at time of test", is limited to testable items only, and no covers or wheels are removed for the test, and has nothing to do with road safety or vehicles being in a acceptable standard/condition, the mot is not worth the paper it's written on!? 2) i love the way people selling vehicles say "oh yes the vehicle has had a service" when in fact all that has been done is a engine oil and filter change. what about the air filters, pollen filters, fuel filters, spark plugs, and a oil and filter change does not involve removing covers or wheels, mechanics cannot see things like the brakes properly (and the brake efficiency test during a mot does not show worn out brakes!)

[@ChopsGarage]

So what would you rather, no MOT and no Oil and Filter? Can you imagine the price that cars would need to sell for with the expectations you have here. There simply would be nothing other than private sales under 5k. I think if a dealer has got an advisory free mot (how the hell do you begin to find a garage that guarantees no advisories, how do you even start that conversation?) and done and oil and filter for the mark up thats a good level of prep.

[@barryshitpeas5837]

That’s horseshit I’m afraid. An advisory is given as and when appropriate, it’s not discretionary.

[@roystonvehicles9129]

I'm just prepping a nice little Honda jazz, full history, full mot, be up at 1495,actually sold it in 2020 for a lot less than that, bought it back off the customer.

[@ChopsGarage]

Too cheap for any Jazz 1995 bud

[@roystonvehicles9129]

@@ChopsGarage actually bought it in lock down for 250(!)sold it for 800 quid, it's not been any trouble and bought it back for an old skool price of 380, motd this morning, I'll take your advice and bob it up a bit dearer.

[@dannycrooks8462]

Using a tachograph in the Toureg?

[@Mariazellerbahn]

I notice there is a dealer near me selling some cars for £1795. They look okay (I haven't scrutinised them though) but even if they are lemons, he can't be making much on them.

[@ChopsGarage]

No, as you say no one is giving cars away so they must have little prep and 30 days max on warranty

[@steveegginton535]

A 2k car is about 10% the price of a new one but there seems to be quite a lot of expectation on the dealer at this level, if someone brought 2nd hand white goods would they expect the same? I am surprised that used car prices further up the market remain so high, with all the reports about cost of living and mortgage rates etc its surprising people still seem to have the money for big ticket items such as new cars?

[@chrismcgowan5180]

Well for the car not to have a catastrohic failure after 6 months isnt asking too much. It's a bloody cambelt look at it. If you werent buying dodgy cars to bump up price you'd know the history.

[@paulf2529]

Im a bit surprised your valeting guy doesn't do machine polishing. Whilst i do have some automotive experience it isnt that hard or that onerouse. Providing you know what type of and grade compound to start with depending on the defects and paint type.

[@stuartkennedy4202]

He said it’s too expensive for a valeting guy to machine polished it.