Evony - General Series: Subordinate City Generals

[@trikytrik696969]

Very helpful to understand what sub gens do. Thank you

[@ameershamieh2964]

Can you provide a complete list of the best sub city generals combo in your experience? Tavern obtainable or not, and assuming 8-9 sub slots.

[@georgiboian78]

korea gives gathering boost. China gives main city resource production. Lot of learn from your videos. Thanks :)

[@ruedigerkrause6209]

What’s the difference in 1) when general is leading the army, or 2) when general is leading the army to attack (in the buffs of a general e.g. Raegar and Animus)

[@abtra]

need an answer here. My understanding is leading army can apply to defending and 'to attack' can not

[@whopper170]

Big fan and subscriber! Do redundant sub-city mayor buffs and debuffs stack? E.g if I have 2 Empress Dowager Cixis so her debuffs stack?

[@The_Miser]

I believe they do work with subs. However, multiple main generals in a rally don't seem to stack. For example, if you are rallying a player and multiple people have the same general, only one buff/debuff will apply.

[@GreenBeret61]

Thanks for the advice. I got cixi and jackson twice. with arminus 5 subs are done. Didnt find nero yet. Spent 60k gems in 2 days. And I really want to get jideok 5 times :D.

[@erikolsen4137]

Great video series! I recently picked up a Johnston and have him up to level 25. I'm planning on having him as my wall general but don't have him outfitted with skill books yet. What do you recommend? I was looking at Range range and Siege range...and not sure of a third... Thanks!

[@The_Miser]

I think I have siege attack, but could also be something like ground hp or defense.

[@English2Elvish]

7:08 Hmmm, Mayor Generals GEAR also applies? Damn, there is some serious ass crafting that needs to get done.

[@The_Miser]

Yup!

[@hartlmarty2951]

Thanks for your videos :-) i have a question - if i have two subs of same culture, is the buff then double?

[@The_Miser]

Yes, it is

[@hartlmarty2951]

@@The_Miser What do you think of mansa musa, as he has 10 % attack debuff... i have 2 of him

[@English2Elvish]

Holy FUCK. I'd never of thought a Cell-Phone game could nerd out so hard. Phew! Intense dude. Intense.

[@asifiqbal4095]

Is Mansa Musa good sub general? I’ve got 2 of him from General segments. Should I grow those?

[@The_Miser]

Yea, I'd keep him on a sub for sure.

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

My Mansa Musa buffs 100% construction speed.

[@m.a.o3273]

@@The_Miser menshikov the keep officer what gear or skill books can be equipped with ??

[@2222Incomplet]

In Sub Cities, what boxes need to be checked for debuffs to take affect in main city? All auto fights for other cities AND all accept reinforcements? Thanks.

[@The_Miser]

Auto fight for other cities will allow it to fight for your main city. Accept reinforcements allows your city troops to fight AT your sub city if it is attacked. If you are in a larger alliance where you will be reinforced if unbubbled, use both of these checkboxes at all times to protect subs from being stolen. If not, leave the accept reinforcements unchecked to prevent players from hitting your sub city to wipe out your main troops.

[@MrJoromekiq1]

Actually, Mehmed's debuffs will work only when you attack

[@oscartilleroi324]

👋🏽 I enjoy your Videos. Why Is important to set 5 Stars ⭐ if what we want from Them is the Debuff? IHave seen people setting all Stars on theirs Subs General.

[@The_Miser]

Not necessary to star, cultivate, or put skill books.

[@jaidee176]

What skill books you highly recommend for sub generals?

[@The_Miser]

Absolutely none. They don't apply to your troops, so don't spend time working on their books. If anything, maybe some books related to sub city growth... but again, it's not worth the effort.

[@SteveZussou]

@@The_Miser i put sub construction and sub gold increase skill books on my sub generals. do you recommend gear for a sub general?

[@slowpokez80]

@@SteveZussou he did. in the video.

[@jrey800]

Are you going to do an updated version of this with the new generals, or is this still recommended as of 7 NOV 21?

[@The_Miser]

This was was more a budget version based on tavern generals. Tavern generals haven't really changed, but I'll probably do an non-tavern take on it in the future.

[@jrey800]

@@The_Miser Gotcha, I appreciate the response! You’re the best kind sir!

[@soy1712]

Is 4 cixi stackable? I mean her debuff..

[@fanfan3409]

Hello! I subscribed to your KZbin channel. I want to ask you a few questions; I noticed that you are a very smart person. Is it worth putting skill cards to generals in subordinate cities? if I put ahemenid equipment on subordinate generals, will my attack increase?

[@The_Miser]

No, skill books do not do anything on sub city generals.

[@fanfan3409]

ok; I know someone, he is level 32. The ranged attack of the troops has him 1000%. how did he do that ?

[@muddassirnazir334]

I have doubt on Mehmed II because it says when "general is leading the army to attack". In a sub city he is just leading the army but not to attack. Am I missing something?

[@The_Miser]

That just means that he is in charge of troops. His buffs will apply to the units he is leading (the ones in that sub) and his debuff applies to the enemy (which helps you).

[@danielefiori8439]

Do you need to raise the level, enhance and cultivate them? Is this necessary and if so, why?

[@The_Miser]

Absolutely unnecessary for sub generals.

[@Mikel.Entropy]

One Chilled Gamer showes Saladin as a sub city general. If I had two Saladins would the kill rate increase?

[@The_Miser]

No, and I don't believe the first Saladin would work either (though I could be wrong).

[@oed84]

do the debuffs also work when you're being attacked, but your sub-cities are checked off in the auto-reinforce function?

[@The_Miser]

No. Sub cities need to participate.

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

I just noticed that all of my Sub Majors are at Max level. Do they earn exp when they join the attack or they just passively earn experience just by being posted in the sub cities?

[@The_Miser]

Sub mayors can't join rallies. You probably leveled them up by attacking solo or defending from attacks. You can also get exp by hitting bosses and monsters with them.

[@dennisrodriguez3689]

@@The_Miser Well, yes. I meant when they join the solo attack against monsters and bosses. Great then, thanks!

[@yusufislamzengin]

How can i get medals for general star level 4?

[@unclerawn4017]

this is a left-field question, but can you put civilization gear on a sub general?

[@The_Miser]

You can but they aren't really focused on debuffing so they wouldn't be too useful there.

[@yungweiong2328]

There are debuff on attack, defense and HP. Please advise which type of debuff (attack, defense and HP) should I choose and debuff on what kind of troops during svs that I should be looking out for.

[@The_Miser]

You want a mix of everything, prioritizing archer attack, ground hp/def, cav hp.

[@welnic869]

Should I get sub general that boost gold such as kign sejong

[@The_Miser]

Definitely not. The gold produced in sub cities is negligible. You want to focus on using sub cities for debuffs.

[@ubaldocrespo1165]

Hi! I be playing evony by 5 o 6 months, I'm k28, I don't put any money on the game, I have 2 mansa musa, and 2 Mehmed II , what do you think about that? I'm trying to grow up faster!

[@FrancisDupont]

How the level of experience of subgens matter if they have good debuff skills?

[@The_Miser]

The level of the general in your sub doesn't matter so much. It's more about the debuffs they provide. If you are trying to level up a general, putting it in a sub for pvp is a great way to get experience.

[@ecka4x4]

What gear should I start with on sub gens? I don't spend much & am at K25.

[@The_Miser]

Don't bother gearing them until you can put on achaemenidae gear. Nothing else has much of a purpose.

[@muhammadyusufnabillea1676]

I from Malaysian. i can't learn languange English. How to occupy legendary historical subordinate city? Can you explain with me at this comments. so i can copy & paste at google translate

[@raymondbryant4029]

Hey, I’m on server 277 and was wondering what is the max amount of Andrew Jax to get max debuff? Also same for empress. Thanks.

[@The_Miser]

The debuff that you would consider to be maximum varies from player to player. You can debuff half of your enemy's attack. If they have 1000 archer attack, your debuff max is 500. If they have 1200, your debuff max is 600.

[@SteveZussou]

i have two queen boudica. is she worth keeping one as a sub and other on the wall?

[@The_Miser]

Her skill would not be useful on a sub city. She can be used on the wall if you have nothing better, but she's not particularly strong. I would keep searching for better in the meanwhile. The second one can be dismissed for gold and runestone chests if you are nearing the cap for generals.

[@SteveZussou]

@@The_Miser ok cheers. I now also ended up with 2 Olog of Novogard, probably same deal

[@The_Miser]

Yup. Not much use in more than one.

[@soju81]

I have a limited amount of Ares gear. Is it better to prioritize the sub city mayors (for the debuff) or first focus on getting my main PvP general fully geared up?

[@The_Miser]

I would focus first on your best pvp general. After that, work on debuffs. You can also achieve some debuffs through technology.

[@andredepaula5381]

What about other generals like Arminius?

[@The_Miser]

Arminius is alright. I use a couple myself. I focused the recommendations in the video on non-spending, but there are better ones outside of the tavern.

[@andredepaula5381]

@@The_Miser I don't recall how I got my Arminius (I have 2) but I don't think it was from spending... maybe fragments? Anyway, I've been looking for a ranked list of top sub generals with little luck on finding a complete list. It would be nice to have a single ranked list and just note which ones are spending vs. non.

[@The_Miser]

That would make sense. I probably did this video before fragments were out.

[@wickedslash7902]

Are static sub generals worth getting? IE Charles Martell

[@1994manymango]

No, any sub general that doesn't debuff enemy troops is a waste. Anything that say increase construction or gold production in sub city, skip

[@zachariahlloyd6043]

Hey *Miser* can you explain something to me that makes no sense at all?? Why do almost all of the videos I see on *Evony* show the guy has a bunch of Blue / Purple / Green sub cities, when these do not seem to actually exist in the game?? I also see them on my server *(507),* bur they are all taken and bubbled. *Where are all the good quality sub cities* please?? *Thanks in advance!!*

[@zachariahlloyd6043]

Also, is there any way to change the culture of your main sub city?? I tried changing my vulture, but didn't work. *Thanks again!!*

[@The_Miser]

There are a limited amount of sub cities on a server. The ones you see bubbled are the ones you need to take. When someone is unbubbled and zeroed, you can capture their sub. You can also get subs through the Sub Searching Event.

[@The_Miser]

Your main sub culture always matches your own. To change it, change your culture.

[@sheth86]

hey, is it good to attack with sub-city gen? people say that it's also good if you attack players with them?

[@The_Miser]

Yes, because you can add debuffs and get some additional layers. However, if you are attacking with them, they can't defend if you are attacked.

[@sheth86]

@@The_Miser Thanks

[@2222Incomplet]

Will a general with debuffs help your city from attaching troops if you place them in, like, hospital, keep, barracks, etc?

[@The_Miser]

Nope. They will only affect troops if directly involved in combat.

[@2222Incomplet]

@@The_Miser so then for main city, just wall and archer tower debuff generals will have an affect?

[@The_Miser]

@@2222Incomplet Wall and subordinate cities. I don't believe archer tower works.

[@geovanijayme6324]

@@The_Miser just to clarify, this reduction buff skills work for your main general doing attack and defense? And this subs need to be linked for generals buffs to take effect, is that how it works? In addition, for example if you have multiple Andrew Jacksons on subs, those reduction buffs stack? Thanks for posting this video guide. Really helps.

[@2222Incomplet]

@@The_Miser Ban Chao is specially an Archer Tower general and he has debuffs. So I assume those debuffs work. Or is that some cruel Evony joke?

[@thompsn42]

Does Saladin work in Sub Cities?

[@The_Miser]

Nope.

[@thompsn42]

@@The_Miser Thats too bad :D Thanks for quick response tho

[@bluefil7181]

Why should I star up sub city generals? It won’t change the debuffs.

[@The_Miser]

No need to star sub gens.

[@RaianTourada]

What about Arminius?

[@The_Miser]

Arminius is worth a slot on sub city if you have him. He's not easily obtainable, but you can get him with general tokens now.

[@jayc8495]

Can you do a video explaining which Dragon gears are important to upgrade to ARES....seems like for most you are better off just using your dragon scales on ACH gear...do you use all ARES on your attacking generals for bosses and pvp attacks?what about the wall gen....all ACH?...thanks

[@The_Miser]

This depends on what the gear is being used for. If upgrading for sub city generals, you would only care about the ranged chest being upgraded to ares for the -ranged attack %. The rest are valuable as pvp options. Just look at the stats and whether it is valuable to the general's troop type.

[@meghanathreddy6205]

What about Arminus

[@The_Miser]

I use a few Arminius. I was focusing on tavern generals in this video iirc.

[@at5840]

How can I gain more power faster?

[@The_Miser]

The fastest way to gain raw power is training troops, but the question is whether training troops is the right decision. If you are keep 35 and you've unlocked your t14 and other necessary buildings...definitely. If not, I'd consider whether your goal is to be "mildly effective now + a bit of fun" or "less pvp fun now, but grow faster and stronger". If you are in for the long-haul, I'd recommend focusing your resources and speeds on essential buildings and growth. These are improvements to your kingdom that no one can take away from you in pvp. Troops come and go.

[@ogfeen]

Can you force port a sub city

[@The_Miser]

No. Sub cities don't move unless there's a server merger.

[@botondlukacs5235]

Nero?

[@motasim89]

How do I get gems for free

[@The_Miser]

There are plenty of ways to obtain gems without paying money. Check the FAQ video on obtaining gems. I thinks it's the 2nd video.