Politicize ‘Freedom’

[@Jszar]

N.B.: Prohibition wasn’t about forbidding alcohol consumption, as such. It was about breaking the political power of the saloon system, which had bought politicians so thoroughly that not only was licensing liquor establishments a pipe dream, but so was prosecuting the big owners when they committed other crimes.

[@tanyawilliams8254]

💙 Freedom💙 Vote Blue America 🇺🇸

[@allthewayfrom]

Politicize ‘Freedom’ - Autocracy in America, Ep. 5 0:00 The word “Freedom” and how it’s used; freedom can be used against democracy 1:36 Intro & Hosts: Anne Applebaum & Peter Pomerantsev 2:20 What is Freedom? 2:51 Jefferson Cowie (Historian at Vanderbilt University, author of “Freedom’s Dominion”) discusses: the freedom to dominate others; Barber County, Alabama (stealing Indigenous land in 1830 and murdering at least 80 black people who were voting in 1874); George Wallace (four-term Alabama governor, from Barber County) wanted segregation and freedom from the Federal Government; autocrats are first elected, often under the banner of freedom; the January 6 2021 insurrection; autocrats are seeking Federal power in the US 11:55 Timothy Snyder (Professor of History and Global Affairs at Yale Univ and author of “On Freedom”) discusses: the freedom to DO something vs. only having freedom FROM something 14:58 the partisanship of the words “freedom” and “democracy”; autocratic influences are why we think our democracy doesn’t work; gerrymandering in the US 16:48 David Pepper (author of "The People's House”) discusses: gerrymandering; how Texas and Georgia have nearly 70% of races uncontested 17:45 Apathy is kryptonite to a democracy; autocratic movements create dysfunctional systems which makes people disgusted or apathetic toward democracy which then attracts more autocratic candidates & tendencies 18:36 People-powered movements and coalition-building can vanquish apathy; the democratic movement in Ukraine; women’s suffrage in the US 20:56 Alexis Tocqueville (author of “Democracy in America”) who wrote about: how democracies succeed; township institutions and associations in the US; how democracy is preserved through local action. Edited for accuracy.

[@jasonnugent963]

1919 - Courts decided that you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. 2024 = people seem to want to be able to yell "FIRE" ,.. and then when told they can't do that, they start screaming about how their Freedoms are being infringed. I hope that most people are smart enough to see how other disingenuously use these words to try to get away with harmful or selfish behavior. I hope.

[@HebaruSan]

That court case (Schenk v. United States) had nothing to do with actual theaters or fires, and it was overturned in 1969 (Brandenburg v. Ohio). The Atlantic just ran an article about this ("What Conservatives Mean by 'Freedom of Speech'"), worth a read.

[@ShankarSivarajan]

Are you aware that the decision you're citing, _Schenck v. United States,_ was a ruling against protesting the draft (during World War I), and was blatantly a violation of free speech, and was overturned in 1969?

[@BrianSweeney1985]

i share your hope but have no optimism. everytime you see a gadsden flag flying somewhere, you have identified someone who disagrees with you.

[@mdog6726]

I also want to be as gay as possible.

[@themeangene]

You have the right to yell fire in a theater. The Supreme Court ruled this 50 years ago. So you disproved yourself

[@unkleskratch]

hard to concentrate on the dialogue with that oompa-loompa music tapping away in the near background.

[@CarlosIowa]

Its "Mysterious Figures," and yeah I thought oompah loompah, too. Good call.

[@pmmsfc]

Hate does not make us free

[@madmax6827]

No, but expressing it IS freedom of speech, which left wants to suppress.

[@markg.7865]

I want freedom from all of Trump's lies and nonsense.

[@madmax6827]

You have that right, so what's your beef other than your lack of intelligence?

[@themeangene]

I want freedom from the left but your side won't leave us alone

[@hectorestrada3764]

Freedom is actually chaos, ask any Afghan what freedom is. Freedom in both sides of the American system need to be clear about what they are talking about, under the American system the idea of Freedom is supposed to be guaranteed through the bill of rights and the constitution. America needs to be willing to find a way to keep the guardrails of “freedom,” in that vain.

[@alanshackelford6450]

Did you get to the part where Tim Snyder explains freedom includes freedom from arbitrariness. So no, Afghans live w/ the utmost arbitrariness. No freedom there.

[@mdog6726]

Stop censorship. You should understand that as a prerequisites of your job.

[@Martcapt]

Freedom can mean whatever you want it to mean

[@madmax6827]

Freedom is the amount of choices you have without government roadblocks.

[@Martcapt]

@madmax6827 sure, that's your interpretation of it

[@chrisolmsted5678]

I would like the history professor to think like an age of reason philosopher. At the founding of our country, the freedom and legitimacy to govern belonged to the people of each jurisdiction. We were an autocracy where only 25% of the population were eligible to vote aka included as a constituent of the people aka the group which was the sovereign as a whole. The freedom of an individual was edited into the bill of rights. It was not in Madison's draft. The republican form of government is hierarchical. Only our founding principles of the people being the ruling authority requires our republic to be a democracy. If you can think like a philosopher or using set theory, it becomes obvious that the hierarchy of rulers in our country is a hierarchy of peoples. In theories of democratic government, the voters are part of the government. They participate in governance even though it is often indirect. Both Cicero and Lincoln at Gettysburg knew that the people were the government. Unfortunately the supreme court forgot completely in the 2008 Heller decision who the people are. They guessed that the people was a synonym for the persons. I hope you can help the people to understand this systemic error. Until it is corrected the system is disjointed and at best it will be erratic in its decisions.

[@madmax6827]

DOWNVOTE this echo chamber for the woke.

[@mdog6726]

Trash rag.

[@vooteimer1234]

No freedom to criticize the Atlantic

[@terryarmstrong8598]

How is it, then, that I'm reading your criticism of The Atlantic? Our form of government hasn't taken away your right to criticize The Atlantic, nor has it taken away the right of The Atlantic to choose what they publish, or not.

[@vooteimer1234]

@@terryarmstrong8598 you're not aware of how comment sections function

[@jonathanklabunde6639]

Stupid or bot? Taking bets.

[@onedroprule]

​@@jonathanklabunde6639 $1 on stupid.

[@terryarmstrong8598]

@@jonathanklabunde6639 I'll take Door Number One.

[@CarlosIowa]

Change the narrative. "I say Seperation of Church and State Now. Seperation of Church and State Tomorrow. Seperation of Church and State FOREVER.

[@madmax6827]

Yeah, because your religion IS the State. Sad.

[@themeangene]

That phrase doesn't exist in the Constitution and our founders mixed religion and government functions

[@donaldwobamajr6550]

@@themeangeneYou must have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever.

[@sobekjenkins]

Yeah, but first you have to know how to spell SEPARATION

[@CarlosIowa]

Point taken. Thank you.​@@sobekjenkins

[@mudchair16]

cringe