The Results & Features of a Person with a High IQ | Jordan Peterson

[@Raptor-bt6zp]

My uncle had a registered IQ of 144. He became an alcoholic, because he could not cope with everyday people. But he overcame the Alcoholism and went on to live a near normal life. He devoted himself to learn how to speak Ancient Greek. He also read incessantly. He was also my favorite uncle

[@apinojilazul6571]

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[@JaimeGarcia-pe7bj]

To speak ancient Greek?

[@Raptor-bt6zp]

@@JaimeGarcia-pe7bj yes it was his obsession

[@jesse75]

My mother was diagnosed with a high IQ. She was a beaver. Pull one stick out of the dam, and she was pissed off.

[@jesse75]

​@@Trezak write a feedback differential equation that has an infinite number of parameters that mimics an action potential.

[@daviddobson6716]

Had a dear friend that I called when I was stumped. He had a vast range of knowledge on almost everything from clothes dryer timers, a calculus question, astronomy, it didn't matter. He was a chain smoker, loved his beer and from a poor family, not caring about money or the trappings of this wolrd. He was working on building a replica of the Leeuwenhoek microscope when he died. Brilliant man with no ego.

[@lightyearaway]

Such people make World a better place to live in ☺️

[@jakewagner5033]

My condolences, sorry to hear such a wise man go when he is the kind of people this world is lacking most of right now.

[@shantubesha]

Sounds lik an interesting person. My uncle buskes with sock pupets and married a docter

[@infinitejest441]

“There is a fine line between genius and insanity”.

[@Severienne]

INTP or ENTP?

[@Micloren]

Was born into a high IQ family. Common characteristics I’ve noticed: - Constantly shifting focus of interest - Often messy/cluttered - Strong interest in learning across a huge variety of fields - Overly critical - On/off depression - Love games - Lacking certain entrepreneurial traits (orderliness, industriousness, risk taking)

[@metaphysicalfractionals4509]

Idk, I think you just described an INTP instead😄

[@existentialhangover1124]

I hope you're right, you just described me to a T. 😆 Except I've learned better coping skills, with the aid of Buddhist principles and philosophy, that keeps most feelings of depression at bay.

[@dirkdiggler9083]

Bingo

[@noexcuses5524]

Intelligent women tend to be single than seetle for less than they deserve

[@anxiouslycalm2929]

That’s adhd my nigga

[@compumundohipermegared917]

My father had an IQ of146. He went from poverty (no shoes, no electricity, one meal a day, if lucky) to middle class (always buying books, having nice holidays, good clothing, and other luxuries). Had a PhD. But also was always angry, I kind of get it. I think his high IQ level helped him to break poverty and become a succesful person.

[@katerynaholotrebchuk6391]

I can imagine why he was always angry😂

[@rosiemackenzie5976]

Having a High IQ is a gift from God, thank God for it and use it to help others.

[@somerandomboi8239]

​@@katerynaholotrebchuk6391why would that be?

[@katerynaholotrebchuk6391]

@@somerandomboi8239 Because people who get out of poverty often use the energy of anger to get the ambition needed for a breakthrough. When you're very smart, but born into poverty, you get no respect for being smart. People look at you and ask the famous question: "So, why are you so poor if you're so smart?". Having money has more to do with the level of aggression than with your IQ. If you're constantly pissed at life and unsatisfied with your place in society, you can push yourself to do impossible things. And I guess, meeting people who don't work that hard, don't want to use their brain, but have it all by just inheriting, and wasting it all away can make you angry.

[@somerandomboi8239]

@@katerynaholotrebchuk6391 Makes sense. Thanks

[@Youandmetogether-s4k]

That nutrition aspect hit home with me. People seriously underestimate how important a good and healthy diet is.

[@demiserofd]

An interesting fact: people adopted from developing countries with nutrient deficiency lose an IQ point per year they spend there. All things being equal, someone who grows up in a developing country with insufficient nutrition will lose twenty IQ points compared to someone with a healthy diet. That might not seem like much, but that means their AVERAGE is gonna be 80, and that's so low the US military will find no use for you.

[@Grounded-Healer]

Absolutely, and when you try and explain why to your loved ones and get ignored.

[@evanfinch4987]

he's saying theres enough food fotr everyone, not that smart people eat kale

[@spmoran4703]

It's not a measure of intellegence there are overweight people with great intellegence. That is categorizing people . And we should not do that . That stinks of Eugenics

[@Thinks-First]

I disagree. I knew three true geniuses. They ate crap constantly. To this day they still do.

[@tylerbaer1829]

My father was a very intelligent man. Not because he had some PHD or something or he could do a lot of math (he did and he could) but because he was just one of those people we all know who just thought differently. He always said that he thinks that people overestimate the intelligence of the average person and the reason we have a lot of issues in society is because the intelligent people often assume that they are average and think all of the less intelligent people probably think a lot more like them when they really think fundamentally differently.

[@keykosantana]

Interesting. I wouldn’t say I’m intelligent, but I’ve always been told this. I also agree with his idea about overestimating average intelligence and how intelligent people tend to think highly other those with lower levels of intelligence. I think it’s because smart people naturally think a lot and assume that others do too this thinking that others possess a greater intelligence than they do. It what I concluded when I truly realized that people weren’t thinking as much or in much the same way as people I view as more intelligent than myself.

[@kevinmckernan794]

People also say that I’m very intelligent but I don’t feel that way at all. I do prefer solitude so maybe they assume that I should be intelligent?

[@_berengar]

Isn’t that the dunning Kruger effect?

[@heatmyzer9]

The opposite of the DK effect.

[@nubianpwr]

agreed - your father was sharp!

[@BarbaraMolin1]

Regarding industriousness, I can give my own example. I was so smart in school, that I never learned how to study and be industrious. Everything came very easily to me all the way to highschool. So when suddenly in university, work became necessary, I didn’t have the skills and rather than learn them, I just quit. My friends, on the other hand, learned how to work from an early age and these skills helped them suceed.

[@akulator88]

u literally told my story

[@erichansen82]

A and b students wind up working for the c and d

[@wintermatherne2524]

Same.

[@dustinhughes5034]

My experience exactly

[@PedroSantos-qi5cs]

holy crap thats makes alot of sense

[@NameRequiredSoHere]

I have a high IQ. The question I repeatedly ask myself: If I'm so smart, why am I so stupid?

[@SeekTruth489]

😂 best comment here lol

[@evelynmahoney3569]

"Smart people making dumb decisions. Ya see it everyday." Credit: I don't know who said it or remember where I heard it, but it sticks with me. I'm living it.

[@micheleaney8220]

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

[@omegalite8788]

IQ doesn't inherently correlate with intelligence. There you go.

[@steph4922]

I remember someone once told me, the smart people know we're not smart. We understand there are many things that we don't know, and we should be weary of not knowing what we don't know. I'm not the smartest person but I went to a top uni and I was in a good job until I retired in my mid/late 30s. I always thought I'm so dumb how can I get such a high paying job. I always wondered if I'm really as dumb as I thought or, maybe everyone's just as dumb as myself so I'm as bad as I thought 😂 Recently I found out, dumb people actually don't realise they're dumb, they actually think they're smart. 😅 I know a tiler how has not finished high school, he spends all his money and says he'll make big bucks in 2 yrs time and thinks he'll be the next Elon or something. 🤔😵

[@SuperAngelic5]

I once worked with a career counselor who often repeated the phrase, "the world is full of unemployed geniuses."

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

And what is that supposed to mean? Apart from being an insecure fragile ego driven rant? Is being employed the be all and end all? No. Highly intelligent people are far beyond the primitive systems of operating that the troglodytes have implemented.

[@paulamserna]

Great answer

[@Person0fColor]

Right! Everyone is a genius. Look at all the posts claiming high IQ? It’s literally like half the fukkking comments 😂 Do you honestly think half the people in this thread have damn near genius 😂 IQs?

[@humboldthammer]

"They did not listen to the FACT that I was a genius. The man said, "We got all that we can use." I got them steadily depressing, low-down, mind-messing, working at the car-wash blues."

[@humboldthammer]

What the Heck. I'm 71. Work was always something that I did, while pursuing other interests. Of course, now I am 100% dependent on the government. But I KNOW EVERYTHING.

[@jessedevilbiss8436]

I was class clown in 5th grade. One day, my teacher asked me to just teach the class. She took my seat in the back, and I took her desk. To the surprise of the entire classroom, I knew the subject and helped students at their desks, standing over them going over the book. My teacher sat and watched for half the day. A few weeks later, I was asked if I'd like to go to 6th grade instead of 5th. My teacher knew I was bored and most likely wasn't surprised that I was able to teach the class. Good teachers matter.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

If i was that teacher id let you teach the class every day until we got busted lmfao Makin my job easier you go kid!!!

[@michellewade3163]

Me in second grade

[@TailicaiCorporation]

I did the same in 6th grade. I had a 126 in math due to extra credit for teaching the class. She just figured well he’s bored most of my class let him do something. Also recently took “an IQ test” after a few drinks and although distracted and inebriated, I scored a 125. Not sure exactly what that means… all I know is not all tests are equal so I take most of em with a grain of salt… minus the one I scored a 200 on… obviously BS lol I’m not anywhere near that lol Edit: the most official test was in HS in my psych class I got a 137, but it wasn’t the full process and was like a projection.

[@6teezkid]

Good teachers most DEFINITELY matter. My teacher as a Junior in high school basically altered my entire path in life just by recognizing something in me that I had no clue about. Then, as a Senior, I was almost all straight A's (from C's and D's as a Junior). Loved your story!! 😂

[@jyhas9702]

I was also a class clown. My mother always tells me this story where I did the same thing around the 2nd or 3rd grade. The math teacher had taught something 1 way to the class on a particular day. And then the following day taught it to the class a completely different way and at the time it seemed less efficient to me. So I raised my hand and asked the teacher why was she teaching it a different way from the previous day if this waybis more tedious and difficult. She got angry and told me since I know so much go up and teach the class. And my story turned out just like yours but I may have unintentionally upstaged the teacher but it wasn't my intent. I was genuinely confused and just wanted to understand why would we use difficult methods to achieve the same result that we could achieve using less effort. But for the record I have had some amazing teachers in my life. God bless them and pay them what they are worth.

[@Theromanreagent]

You are less affected by disgust when you realize that most things don't matter as much as you thought and some things matter more than you thought

[@fredflintstone8998]

Had a decent IQ as a teenager and still have the ability to reason quite well. I don't see myself as anything special but I do see the reasoning of a lot of other people as deeply flawed. They seem to like to arrive at conclusions without adequately examining the facts and will dismiss counter arguments out of hand. I am extremely untidy and frustrated by tripping over things but nonetheless perfectly happy to survey the mess... I am pretty damn strong and healthy at the age of 70. I'm also something of a poet. I do miss being a young man but I don't miss the neuroticism! My favourite pastime may well be asking questions... even though I'll forget a lot of what I learn.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

Exactly If you gonna be a bear, be a grizzly

[@Theromanreagent]

@@fredflintstone8998 I'm something of a poet myself

[@fredflintstone8998]

@@Theromanreagent Hello Joe, I suppose that putting pen to paper can be a great joy, whatever you write... most of my stuff never sees the light of day and the stuff that people have heard is sometimes regarded with indifference and sometimes with great appreciation. I reckon I write for myself and try not want to be governed by ego.

[@fredflintstone8998]

Whoops! ... correction: try not to be governed by ego

[@EyeofSekhmet]

My IQ is 147 and I can't imagine what I would do without it lol as a child, I would often envy the less intelligent peers, because they seemed to find happiness easily, but now I am so grateful. I always wanted to be a wife and stay at home mom, and my teachers were always trying to push me to do more...doctor, writer, psychology professor, animator, actor, I could have been anything, and I chose motherhood. In my mind, it makes complete sense to do so. There is nothing more valuable that I can bring to this planet, than children who are well adjusted and can think for themselves.

[@greenfinmusic5142]

Amen! I desperately wanted to fit in growing up, and drank like a fish almost every day in college in an attempt to dumb myself down. But by my mid-20's I did a 180 and started appreciating it.

[@cooperstein1974]

Oh my God please shut up your not the main character

[@RydiainMyst777]

Lol you're* ​@cooperstein1974

[@27_yashnimkar45]

@@cooperstein1974 r/iamverysmart

[@taganaafaw3970]

Because IQ is highly inheritable You probably can still push 2 persons (ie your children) or more with IQ as high as yours to pursue a career so it will still be that career advice goal achieved by proxy on 2nd generation while u pursue your goal.

[@loganstratholme]

When you’re intelligent enough to see through society, you realise it’s not for you.

[@No-ky3kb]

*You realize you are society and you drop the victim mentality

[@woo1818]

@@No-ky3kb needs more iq

[@ebikescrapper3925]

You see that it's all a game.

[@jayextermapest765]

Amen to that 🙏

[@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq]

​@@No-ky3kb it has nothing to do with being a victim. You associate with like-minded individuals....which is yourself!

[@themtube9455]

Do not worry too much about your IQ, just be the best you can be and challenge yourself by doing things that scare you or are difficult. These things will give you some positive result. Be brave. You are stronger than you think.

[@sixolisetshangela7754]

Thank you❤ , reading these comments makes me feel dumb

[@ata864]

​@@sixolisetshangela7754they are usually low IQ people that think they are high iq

[@mississippimud7046]

These are words of wisdom ,thank you .

[@PNdebt-hc2tg]

I am so glad I do the scary things...

[@gretavains8707]

Going overseas for 2 months by myself😊

[@sterlingbaade2024]

For 38 years I battled depression, failure, anxiety, loneliness, couldn't keep a job, zero long term friendships...I was a "gifted kid" in school. I was "diagnosed" with ADHD a few months ago. It has been a journey of trying to figure out why, with all I am capable of, why I am a complete failure on paper. Things are coming into focus, but I truly fear becoming that person that points at my childhood or "mental illness" to absolve me of failure of poor decisions. I want to be happy, successful and a part of a community; but the older I get and the more I learn about the world, it makes it agonizing to even try to communicate with people.

[@apinojilazul6571]

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[@artfasil]

You might have social anxiety plus way too many people are assholes.

[@human-ft3wk]

If you did have a traumatic childhood or mental ilness, there's nothing shameful in recognizing what your situation is. In my opinion 'the person' that's kind of cringy is the one that identifies existing childhood or mental ilness and does nothing about it. Instead they use it as the reason for why they keep failing. If you're lucky enough to have discovered the cause of your struggle, then you likely have a clue of what to do next and how to undo as much of the damage that's been done. It is an 'excuse' for why you might have arrived at a point in life, but it is no excuse to keep yourself that low for the future.

[@HansensUniverseT-A]

31 here, i was diagnosed within the autistic spectrum as an adult, i suspect i match the profile of someone with ADD as well, my life is a mess quite literally. I underwent several tests, one of them was the WAIS IV test which appear to be the standard test they use here in Norway for checking cognition and i took it twice, turned out the loser is intellectually gifted, regardless i will likely remain unemployed for the rest of my life, i cannot function well in general society, can't hold any job, can't commit to academics, heck i still haven't managed to obtain my high school diploma due to missing subjects.

[@jjf1058]

Just find your passion

[@Serf_dom]

I personally believe it's discipline. Every person I know that I consider successful are all very disciplined in most areas.

[@waterrabbit77]

Discipline is not IQ. Totally lazy people can be geniuses. It's in the genes. It cannot be trained. You can improve your standing at your IQ range but not your true intelligence.

[@Rakibrown111]

Discipline is hard man, can’t I make an AI to be disciplined on my behalf? I figured out a long time ago that rather than work 30 years to achieve my goals I can just wait for AI and tell it do all the things I want to achieve in the way I want them done, then get it all sorted in a few short years instead.

[@billholt174]

It's the difference between the casual or even effortless, and the applied. As with any gift, those who put in the work sometimes surpass the profoundly talented who don't.

[@edithcunningham5713]

...is...

[@Alpine913]

But imagine intelligence + discipline… I mean, we’ve all seen it at some point. The kid in class who gets everything with just a smidge of effort. The point is that when all external variables are the same, being gifted is an advantage socioeconomically.

[@treygon11]

To be successful you need to be a little smart, very wise, and extremely determined.

[@dillonkayser4215]

Yes, and confident. Confidence is key.

[@darrennew8211]

I think it depends on what you're being successful at. If you want to be a successful artist, that's going to be totally different from being a successful bank manager.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

@@dillonkayser4215 Or plain arrogance.

[@theyrekrnations8990]

What is success? it is not the same thing to everyone. To some it is absolute materialism. To others Knowledge. "Desire" is the key. Success is fleeting . Once you succeed.Your desires will take you the either the next level of success or to another area all together

[@Benjumanjo]

Statistics don't demostrate this opinion.

[@1985wolfman]

Perhaps high IQ people have less need for order because they are more well equipped to figure out how to deal with the chaos that comes from disorganization. Being disorderly can cause surprise difficulties that challenge you, but if you have confidence in your ability to solve the problems as they arise, you have less need to focus energy on ensuring nothing ever goes wrong or gets out of place.

[@sneak1252]

This is exactly what I was thinking

[@kingbaguette1843]

Good point

[@loriannmarsden7783]

Chaos doesn’t always come from being disorganized. The only challenge that is associated with being disorderly is when it’s time to organize and put what people call “things in their right place”..

[@prospectortug1077]

Been thinking this for many years. Recognised the disparity between how my wife and I operate. She is intelligent, a meticulous planner, organiser and has the industriousness to match. Whereas I’m very laid back not as industrious but very high (92nd percentile) in trait openness, plus she and others in my small circle seem to think I have a high intellect. In any case I’ve tried to plan things in my life but always found I improvise very well, finding it easier to adapt to situations and problems as they occur rather than trying to factor every variable into a coherent plan. Is it wrong that i have almost an aversion to planning things?…. Probably. But i can definitely see correlation in what you say and many situations throughout my life.

[@ankitachandel]

I hate disorganisation or chaos i must be really really stupid

[@Slwtski]

You can be born with a high iq but it truly takes persons inner wisdom to choose what he desires to do with it.

[@jerryappleton6855]

Ironically...a wise statement...

[@jladdyost]

and some ambition

[@lindanapoleone]

@@jerryappleton6855😅

[@razorfingers]

There's IQ which is processing power and the missing link referred to here is what I call EQ, or emotional quotient. If both are high you will be more successful than just someone with a high IQ

[@jumpwhistlefart]

0h mY goD tHiS is So DeEP!!!!!!! blblbblbrrrrrrr

[@user-nh4tm6hh4j]

I was born somewhat poor and didn't get the chance to go to college. As I came of age things seemed easy. I found what turned out to be a great spouse. Built my own home and became a millionaire by my mid thirties. I had always thought I was average IQ. I breezed through high school even though I never studied. In my late thirties I happened across an internet IQ test. I took it and was surprised I was in the 140 range. I thought it was just pandering to people interested in their intelligence so I paid the fee to take a Mesa test. I was shocked to score 142. Suddenly it all became clear. That is why everything was so easy. Then I realized something. The value of spotting others like myself. I worked on that problem and so surrounded myself with very intelligent people. That's when my income skyrocketed. There is one problem. Finding friends is very difficult.

[@caiqueportolira]

How to spot high IQ people? How did you make money? I would be very grateful if you could share some of your insight. Thanks.

[@anissaholmes4495]

Finding friends seems to be an across the board problem especially in our overworked and obsessed with money nation.

[@bradleythebuilder8743]

Mesa AZ is running IQ tests ? I thought MENSA did that

[@georgedalton4816]

Get a dog, humans are highly over rated.

[@Tony-ib2vm]

Look for: Intelligence Energy Integrity The third one is the most important. If they can't be trusted, they'll bury you with the first 2.

[@irkhanbasc]

As someone with a (relatively) high IQ, I can say that it's not that much of a picnic. In your group interactions, you often feel like you are surrounded by idiots, so you may become antisocial or find it hard to form friendships. You're lucky if you find the right crowd to hang out with. You may also become bored easily and require constant mental stimulation. If you find a suitable career and/or hobby, it's okay, but otherwise the boredom may drive you crazy or develop into other negative attitudes or behaviours. You are more prone to depression and anxiety, although you may be less prone to addiction. You may be more sensitive or easily annoyed or disturbed. It's true when they say that ignorance is bliss.

[@elinakezbere]

As someone with LowIQ this shit is false as fuck.

[@DChristina]

Only boring people get bored.

[@carlosluis1970]

@@DChristina LOL

[@filinior5112]

You just perfectly described my day to day life.

[@irkhanbasc]

@@filly3594 I agree. Intelligent people have a better understanding of how to live a happy and fulfilling life. We are often surprised by the foolishness of people who try to fill the holes in their lives with material things, vicarious obsession with celebrity and fame, and petty jealousy of the people around them. If only these people were to take a moment to stop and reflect, then they would begin to realize and understand what is truly important in life.

[@dazedrufus5394]

I tested a few months back and scored 154. It was a real in person test proctored by a professional. I also took one as a kid to get into some “highly gifted” program in which I scored in the top .1 percentile. I do not feel particularly intelligent at all and am destructively self aware, to the point in which I effectively can’t think any train of thought through. I spent my entire teenage years thus far doing essentially nothing and have generally lost the analytical incisiveness I was always praised for as a kid. I held on to the idea that I was massively intelligent for a very long time, insisting that I have some absurd amount of latent potential that for whatever reason I just couldn’t channel. Recently I became so depressed as to where I had to go live in a residential treatment center, because I couldn’t find the energy to feed or bathe myself. It is a fact that I have a high iq, but I don’t feel particularly more smart or well off than anybody. I really don’t understand How I maintained the ability to preform so well on these assessments without embodying basically any of the positive traits associated with intelligence throughout my life. I spent all day trying to drown out my brain with tiktok, barely interactive video games, and other bs for YEARS.

[@dazedrufus5394]

I lost my train of thought but what I’m trying to say is that high iq doesn’t mean you are better off than anybody else, it is a powerful predictor of success but nowhere near the largest factor.

[@dani_benjumea]

Emotional intelligence is maybe what you were missing

[@AC-kk3vo]

Any hobbies or passion's ?

[@redshift8302]

@@dazedrufus5394 Forget about your high IQ, just put some simple goals ahead, get a part time job, learn something new, and build on that.

[@abdelkarimmohammed9066]

I hope you get better.

[@slowstone8509]

High IQ is a predictor of resistance to PTSD because, with proper work, we can more easily prevent believing everything we think, and then train our inner selves to think and believe in a way that takes acute adversity as a lesson and wellspring of energy to wield that we didn’t have before. Fear literally lowers IQ with mental walls and fog.

[@anniem1111]

Love this

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

I like fear It makes me love staying in bed all day Everyday 😀

[@DrasticBreeeZy]

I ain’t gone lie I saw my mom die before my eyes, it really didn’t faze me. I knew she was going to heaven. Of course I miss her, but my positive outlook on death did not add PTSD or put me in depression. I had this positive outlook on death and it made me more mentally powerful than most people, and she most likely super proud of me looking down. I got her tatted on my chest

[@worldupsidedown1]

Great point!! We also shouldn’t believe everything we feel.

[@reallythere]

Didn't work for me. My nervous system regresses and i enter freeze then flight mode. When i come out i really am upset I lost control.

[@Robertoni7]

Would like to hear him speak about the effects of trauma , especially early childhood trauma, and how it impacts IQ.

[@jackmeoff1321]

You can always Inprove your iq, no mater what

[@zacklewis342]

@@jackmeoff1321 Based on what research?

[@jackmeoff1321]

@@zacklewis342 research it youll see

[@jackmeoff1321]

@@zacklewis342 im not no doctor

[@kyle-7107]

​@jackmeoff1321 no you can't. You can improve your education but intelligence is hard wired from birth.

[@spacecat7247]

Having a high IQ is one thing, dealing with yourself is another and dealing with people that don't is yet another.

[@MariaDeBard]

Oh amen,.... The insidious amount of vodka I have consumed in order to feel as though I can relate to others. A higher IQ is definitely a test of will, daily.... Take care

[@haroldfarquad6886]

The procrastination thing is interesting. I was put in 'gifted' programs, honors classes, made straight A's with what I felt like was minimal effort, got an engineering degree, and have made a decent living since graduating. The entire time growing up in school, and now even into work, I have always been a habitual procrastinator. It became almost a game to see how long I could put off starting assignments or studying and still make a good grade. I think part of it is once I understand the complexity of an assignment, it's not hard to closely estimate how long it will take to complete. The challenge is in the first part, in assessing something's complexity, that's what gets my attention early on. Once that's figured out, completing the task becomes trivial and easy to push until the last possible second.

[@cldude691]

Wow... I feel like you just described my entire approach to life.

[@apinojilazul6571]

how prepare men and woman before have sex, for produce babies with rare inteligence genius ?

[@apinojilazul6571]

how to make genius babies, using parenting habits and not technology.

[@annabondaruk4583]

But are you able to remember things you’ve learned quickly after longer period of time? When I recall my studies I was able to learn fast for exam, just as you described, but noticed that without reinforcement later on I was loosing it, it wasn’t saved in my long memory.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

@@annabondaruk4583 Not really, no. I remember general concepts, but if I learned something technical and detailed without using it, I lose it as well. I could probably reteach myself a lot of things if I had to, but there's no telling how much of things like thermo, fluids, and dynamics I've forgotten. I remember a good bit of the symbols and their relationships, but as far as ability to apply it accurately... it would be slow going to relearn most of it. My short term memory isn't nearly what is once was, either. I used to be able to read a paragraph maybe two or three times, then I could recite it verbatim immediately after and for several hours later. Playing piano was much the same way, as was what little foreign languages I've tried to learn. Now, my memory begins and ends with what I have to care about for work on the scale of a few days. Long term memory is reserved for things I have to integrate into my work, so I don't really 'lose' those specific things.

[@I_dont_know-wx2bo]

Yeah, but gifted persons above IQ 130 are often not understood by society and are also not the ones that always score the best results on tests etc. Lots of them commit suïcide.

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

Yep, gifted persons we functions differently, we are understood only by persons who are also gifted or have the same or similar personality type than us. Most of people think we are stupid. Be gifted, have also weakenesses. And each gifted person is different from another gifted person. Knowing things and discover things, that only few people can or want understand or will believe. Fortunately we recognized each other’s between gifted persons. Actual society is not adapted to us, we have to find our own way of living. Even there is not many specialists who can help and understand us. There are associations and books which can help. I happy internet and MBTI community exist with great persons to exchange with. Yes be gifted and have high IQ is not related. Be gifted bring also troubles. And theses troubles influe on the passassion of the test. The IQ result on the paper doesn’t reflect the total potential of a gifted person. There are persons who have high IQ and who are not gifted. I understand totally that gifted person can commit suicide. We need to have a strong mental to live by seeing who truly are the persons on the inside. Be able to understand everyone and practically everything, but be misunderstood and seen as weird by the most. Whereas we are surely the most kind, adorable, calm, patient... and helpful persons. Thanks for your comment.

[@nescionetizen295]

Suïcide is predictor of low IQ tho

[@mfbomber]

My 130 will be around for some time, if I have any say in the matter. :)

[@Lexrezende]

Gifted people don't necessarily score above 130. That's an outdated approach. Most gifted people don't know they are gifted and suffer heavilly with anxiety, depression and disorders. They have impostor syndrome, they are highly critical about themselves, they are perfectionists. They procrastinate and abandon projects because they don't believe the projects to be goodenough. They know they are different since they are children and feel aliens. They need psychologists to help them in childhood and in adolescence in order to became healthy adults. Most don't have this help and become frustrated, anxious and depressed adults. Our society is governed by mediocrity and gifted people don't fit.

[@singularmusing970]

@@Lexrezende agreed. You feel isolated from the world because of what can see and understand. It’s almost like a language barrier between others that it becomes difficult to express and articulate how you feel and what you know.

[@stucorbett7905]

My daughter was a c student in High School. Took the asfab test for considering a military career and scored like a 98. So she went on to the Defense language school in Monterey. A year and a half later she invited us to the graduation. As a surprise, she stood up as the valedictorian and gave a full blown speech in Korean in front of God and everybody. Just incredible. As the yrs go by its so rewarding to see all my kids thrive as they are also hard workers.

[@Persion4786]

Yes good for her getting born with a high iq. So why are dumb people poorer and unsuccessfull? Life is harder to contend with so you just give up you aren't a machine that can work infinitely hard you got limits, and high iq makes so much easier. Low iq though well you can imagine...

[@daninthemoon2616]

I have a 142 IQ, measured a couple decades ago, and am a big procrastinator, in proportion with the task difficulty. I always delivered on time, but figure waiting until the last minute to commit to a plan/design produced the best outcomes, although it created anxiety at times. I was iterating in my head instead of on paper if that makes sense.

[@davefiano4172]

SAME!

[@hristinaradeva6761]

Same here

[@eeeeeeeeeee2]

I don’t think I’m smart but I procrastinate mainly because I’m not sure I’ll produce something good🤦🏻‍♀️

[@escarfangorn]

It is comforting to read this comment, to know I'm not alone in this.

[@oktagon10]

Exactly the same (in regards to procrastination)!

[@lisalapoint7022]

I think a hallmark of intelligence is to be able to think all the way through an issue or idea. Sometimes this level of critical thinking can be taught, and sometimes not. Dr. Peterson has this ability, and it has allowed him to change his opinions on issues and has led to life changing conclusions. It is one of the reasons listening to him speak about ideas and issues is so fascinating. He also has the ability to explain his thought process and brings his audience along with him to the truthful conclusion.

[@steeplecab]

I think he's also read a little too much of Ayn Rand, but that's a personal opinion.

[@RagingBrohemoth4]

I think that's more a hallmark of wisdom than intelligence, but yes, he is also very intelligent.

[@josephineradzwill6450]

It seems that underachieving and achieving are not related to IQ, but to culture and family. Underachievers have been raised to fail even though they can spend hours planning ahead.

[@Person0fColor]

Yup be used to be a democratic socialist but now he works for the daily rag… Crazy what 50 mil will do to a person priorities 😂

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

​@@Person0fColorThat's funny. I knew videos talking about high IQ attracted some conceited midwits, but I figured even that crowd would notice that his views evolved before he became famous, or at least internationally known.

[@sandyfreyman3501]

Wisdom is what people need to lean into, it's what they need to pray for. The most important thing to own.

[@canucklehead4463]

high iq is highly overrated especially by those who possess it.

[@laurencew5220]

Absolutely

[@sandyfreyman3501]

@Me yes, if you try, you too can grow, in grace and knowledge.

[@ellerythe8th]

Comes with age if you choose it over arrogance

[@Romincus]

IQ is an indicator of how well you can solve puzzles. IQ test are basically a series of puzzles where someone is observing how and how fast you think. Thinking fast is not the same thing as thinking right.

[@purplepheasant4776]

Finally, some real sense.

[@Melad-iw1ro4pt8v]

Underrated comment

[@MountainMama-db5mh]

That's only one aspect aspect of IQ test, it's called processing speed and consists of only 2 out of 10 subtests. All it does is indicate how quickly you process information, which has little to do with intelligence but can explain learning disorders. An IQ test assesses the capacity one has to learn and think. Some of it is based on education and some based on logic that is not associated with educational progress.

[@aolvaar8792]

@@MountainMama-db5mh My Father was an interrogation technician, he spoke 7 languages fluently. He told his employer that in 2-3 weeks he could speak like an 8-year-old. His employer came in and asked "Serbo-Croatian?" "Give me 14 days." IQ is how your Brain was wired at birth.

[@anneloving8405]

And that's when training and repetition come into the equation,If you are trained for possible outcomes you can reach those faster/better.

[@budte]

My IQ is in the 90th percentile. Childhood may have affected me negatively, but for whatever reason I have difficulty concentrating and a low frustration tolerance. Left school without taking any qualifications and was addicted to alcohol almost as soon as I took it the first time. But the same brain that got me into all that trouble is also the same brain that has been able to navigate the chaos and get through. I am 40 years sober and survived myself.

[@SheriLoweTwilight]

"survived myself" that is poignantly brilliant. I am glad to hear of your victory.

[@barneyronnie]

I Q is pseudoscientific tripe!

[@tobymcgroby8967]

I understand if you don't want to say, but I have a question: Do you struggle with cravings anymore? Do you get that awful PTSD-like anxiety after being around people in their worst phase? The kind that creeps into your subconscious & manifests physically, belive it or not🙈

[@budte]

@@tobymcgroby8967 I don't mind you asking. I get no cravings at all. I knew I couldn't continue to drink and I also knew I couldn't stop. I was beaten. I did not know it at the time, but I had given up trying to beat alcohol and I accepted it had beaten me. Many people give me undeserved praise for stopping drinking, but the truth is I did what was best for me. I was only 23 years old at my last drink. I thought I was going to be tortured by thoughts of drinking for the rest of my life. I went to AA meetings where the smug b*stards said things like 'it gets better'. I could happily have punched them out. After nine months I woke up one morning and realised that the previous day Ihad not thought about alcohol or my pub mates (England) at all and at that point I considered it possible this just might be doable. Most people don't torture themselves for nine months as I did, but I was extremely self-pitying and resentful at needing to stop. I went to AA for the first 12 years. I would never have got sober or changed my self-pitying thinking without the example of others. I left after 12 years as I disagree with their god-based program. There is no problem or difficulty in my life that having a drink could not make worse.

[@EcoBeast-ip3ky]

You sound normal.

[@jasonfjordlund2338]

JP is the man, but I know several high IQ people and health/longevity are not their strong suits. A few of them make terrible wages as well. High IQ doesn't mean good life choices.

[@luccardi.]

It's correlation, not causation. We all have anecdotal evidence to contradict a claim.

[@rCrypto_Frog4148]

@@luccardi. but wat if there's soo many anecdotal evidence that make the claim look incorrect? I mean, what if someone is high IQ, but grew up with crappy parents and got into drugs at a young age? My uncle scored really high IQ but ended up a druggy. He's in his mid 60's now and still working . . . he was also growing pot on the roof top when he was in elementary school lol

[@dantan1249]

It think the study may reflect the fact that most high iq people come from relatively high iq parents. This may mean they don’t do much at all but may have a decent lifestyle due to status during child rearing years. Maybe college was free, good diet growing up, don’t work as many hours, less debt naturally, etc.

[@luccardi.]

@@rCrypto_Frog4148 It doesn't. You can find every exception and it would still be true. The exception that proves the rule. Again, it's a matter of correlation and not causation. It's possible for you to know many people who aren't successful and have a high IQ, cause it's not a matter of causality. As long as research is based on a random group and random control group, it should be valid.

[@darylfoster7944]

Almost everyone is overweight now, so health doesn't seem to be correlated to much of anything except a lack of impulse control.

[@JohanDee]

I did 2 very different IQ test during two different periods in my life. I came out between 125 and 135, so an average of 130. The strange things is, I always thought of myself as not very intelligent comparing myself with others. I always needed more time to think things through also. But I read a lot as a child, so knew a lot.

[@Person0fColor]

And yet another high IQ individual 😂😂😂 So many geniuses 😂 and they all listen to Jordan Peterson

[@aGenericBanana]

@@Person0fColornah i am curious about how do people with high iq think.I don't want to spread hate about anyone. If people are learning something from him then its fine even tho what he says is nothing one cant know if they sit by themselves

[@JohanDee]

@@Person0fColor Of course, he studied psychology and had experience in the field. I'm just a simple soul. B.t.w., English is my third language.

[@prairiemark4084]

I can identify with testing high in IQ, yet being a slow processor mentally. I had two elementary teachers tell my parents I was retarded. Yet in 10th grade I scorer higher on standardized tests than anyone ever at that school since they used the kind of tests (20 plus years). My guidance counselor told me that twenty years after I graduated. And my science teacher affirmed it when I asked her. They were prohibited from telling me in my school years. There were two things my classmates did that bothered me. One was to call me "dumbshit". The other was to ask me in a group sitting "What day is it?" It would take me a few seconds to figure out the day and the students would break out in laughter. They were mean. It seems to me my brain began to develop faster than most people's brain and then slow down. I scored very high up to grade 10, but then from 10th grade to 12th grade my test scores pulled back toward the mean. I was still studying hard but my rank in the class fell and my ACTs were only in the top 10%, not in the very high range. I credit a lot of my development to my mother saving her money and buying me a set of World Book Encyclopedias then I was 9 and I read them a lot. Thousand of pages.

[@recenityz]

@@Person0fColor A person with a perceived higher IQ is more likely to consume content about having a high IQ -- by a source who did a lot of research on the subject, no less. Shocker.

[@reddiver7293]

My SAT verbal and math scores added together failed to crack 1,000. And I have never gotten the hang of algebra. However, I am extremely good at remembering lines and plots of mysteries in movies and on TV. And my timing for spoiling the outcome for those around me is impeccable.

[@xenobob2773]

We salute you, Sir! Doing God's work.

[@reddiver7293]

@@xenobob2773 Haha! Pretty good, haha! I love sarcasm!

[@seth4321]

This comment is so darn funny 😆

[@reddiver7293]

@@seth4321 Thank you, Seth. I have a gift.

[@suigeneris2663]

You put my 2,000 IQ to shame, Sir.

[@boomerang379]

I have IQ of 140. I find it quite stressful to deal with other people and I prefer to be alone.

[@rob21]

Mine is one point less than yours, so I don't understand your sentence, but agree with it.

[@aaronszabo6905]

​@rob21 i take the time to comment like this. I respect what you do. Its needed. Carry on soldier. Keep doing the lords work

[@stereodreamer23]

I tested 148 on the Stanford-Binet, and I whole-heartedly agree with you. Dealing with people who "just don't get it" and aren't even interested in understanding complex ideas is EXTREMELY stressful--especially when they are in management or supervisory positions above you. My biggest challenge in my professional life of over 30 years across 5 different careers, has been NOT asking my bosses how they dress themselves in the morning without adult supervision...

[@michellevi4919]

@@rob21 XD

[@michellevi4919]

Also 140, and I totally understand your frustration. Thought 1: find other people that can keep up with your intellect. This is why I love my college friends. Thought 2: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy :p

[@lalehbryanskrenes5692]

I believe the high IQ person is capable of understanding many thing at a deep enough level to gain interest in it. They see many avenues of advancement at the same time. As a result, they are more distracted and struggle to confine themselves to a single plan and want to move on to something else if it takes too long to complete the plan.

[@OzguAksut]

HOW CAN I SOLVE IT?

[@CaptainSugarToes]

I can’t stick to one fucking thing it really pisses me off

[@Danny.Duns1]

​@@CaptainSugarToesSettle down, einstein

[@CaptainSugarToes]

@@Danny.Duns1 I’m not Einstein.

[@Danny.Duns1]

@@CaptainSugarToes settle down, robert kirby

[@Dave_Lucas]

The mysterious trait that leads to industriousness is discipline. There are three factors to usefulness: ability (includes IQ), knowledge (gained through experience) and discipline (quells emotions). Since they are indeed factors, any one can drag down one's overall usefulness.

[@excellenceinanimation960]

I work really had but have a hard time staying disciplined and detail oriented sometimes. What you said is so true!

[@dennis-gk3zt]

@Dave Lucas No offense, but I don't think you've solved the mystery. Yes industriousness is a part of discipline. But we still have the question. Why are some people disciplined, and industrious, and others not?

[@Dave_Lucas]

@@dennis-gk3zt Laziness is the default; discipline is learned.

[@dennis-gk3zt]

@@Dave_Lucas Thank you for the quick response. I didn't think of industriousness as a big mystery, until I heard him say it. I am social security recipient old. I wish had been more disciplined, and less lazy.

[@dennis-gk3zt]

@@Dave_Lucas What do you think of Jordan Peterson? I have mixed feelings. He gives good advice to people to develop good habits. But some other things he says seem very strange to me.

[@margaretnorman2093]

My son tested as highly gifted and he is very motivated and always striving to learn. He does have a hard time in groups because most people don't interest him. He would rather spend time with his immediate family. He does not drink or do drugs. He experimented but did not like feeling like shit the next day.

[@ThomasJones-sz3sx]

He Made A Wise Decision!

[@Leslie-mw2zu]

I have a high IQ and love discovering how much I don't know. Never ending.

[@karylmorgan7320]

You are like Socrates...

[@celiabrown153]

Me too. ❤

[@MS-rc6ii]

High iq people realize there’s more and more and More to learn. They are always thirsty for more, unquenchable thirst. For me it started in childhood. I could not get enough books, learning, facts, different faces to understand, gestures, voices, complex music, history etc. Dull people drive us crazy, bored and even angry. There is a distance and a discontentment. At first you think it is depression but later you realize it’s what you know, what you are constantly learning, the realization you need, Need to learn more vs the general lack of knowledge, the firm beliefs of your peers, the contentment and certainty they have about their own firm opinions and knowledge. Because they cannot imagine there’s More.

[@KristineBette]

Me, too! Learning is my favorite hobby.

[@mkf628]

humility

[@twinkleblink3073]

Success in life also depends on how well you are received and understood by others. People can get intimated by people with a high IQ and put lables on them like narcissistic. Also, it can be hard to pace thoughts with others when you're two or more jumps ahead.

[@arthurrosa9403]

Many times in my life I've been labeled as looking down on people for thinking they're dumber than me, and I've never held that thought. I don't even believe I'm smarter, just being a loner makes me have more time to research and learn random stuff.

[@Primitarian]

@@arthurrosa9403 Right, but there are plenty of people who just assume that's how you think. After all, if roles were reversed . . . .

[@gnudidoodie]

I would be interested in comparisons between guys above 6’2” and above attractive males vs guys 5’9” that are less attractive.

[@prospectortug1077]

Yes hence the notion its not what you know but who you know.

[@arthurrosa9403]

@@twinkleblink3073 I work with community and have a few close good friends. I was isolated when younger, but found my way. I still spend most of my time alone, but not lonely, and have a good companion too.

[@creolelady182]

I took a IQtest in the miltary. I was 19 years old and scored 140.. I never could understand why people could not anticipate problems and find solutions to problems.

[@MyWillypilly]

When I took the ASVAB test, they basically told me I could have most of the jobs they could offer. I was 19 and had no idea what to choose, so I never joined. They were hot after me for two years.

[@BlaccOut]

Asvab has little to do with high IQ but you are still probably a very intelligent person.

[@SeansModelBuilds]

​@@MyWillypilly I got the same thing said to me when I took the Canadian Military Test: the CFAT. Only my vision limited me.

[@alienclay2]

I believe that i.q. and ASVAB have a 0.8 correlation factor. It's a strong predictor. It makes sense and both sets of scores are relative to a statistical average.

[@Shhhoooooo]

But not smart enough to be humble...

[@sjbchase4766]

I am a high IQ guy. It's almost a gift and a curse. Because we recognize the game that is life. And struggle with the decision to play it or not.

[@mkf628]

who told you it was a game?

[@BrockLanders]

Unfortunately, if a person’s IQ is upwards of 145 (3 standard deviations above the mean) they often suffer from mental health issues and are often misunderstood by society. Think of philosophers like Nietzsche or Wittgenstein, mathematicians/physicists like Newton, or even someone like Ted Kaczynski who had an IQ of about 165.

[@bbgun3183]

I don't know what my IQ is but I am autistic. Most people I talk too don't understand half of what i'm talking about (electron and proton relationships, theology of the Trinity, combining ancient and modern farming technology) and most of it is based on new ways of thinking. The list goes on and on. I'm sure its over 130+ (best guess), but out thinking people kind of sucks. Mental health problems in spades SPD, OCD, dyslexia, anxiety and more. Smart is isolating and lonely, dumbing done is frustrating and the look on peoples faces, when i do figure out that they are completely lost to what i'm saying, leads to self deprecating jokes. So ya misunderstood, agreed!

[@bbgun3183]

Also being smart doesn't mean your going to make money, mental health issues can prevent that from happening.

[@PeterKato83]

I don't think it's the high IQ which makes people have mental illnesses I think it's too much time alone and staying in their head that's the issue. Look at Nietzsche or Tesla, mostly normal until they were older and alone too much. Humans need social interaction to stay mentally normal. Plenty high IQ people that were social and went through life mostly fine such as Feynman, Einstein, to name a few.

[@pushkaraksh123]

Ted Kaczynski wasn't misunderstood. He was an awful individual.

[@lymanterrell]

Think of it this way, you're basically alone in the world with 145 IQ. Difference between average and R-tard is 40 points, 100 vs 60. 140 vs 100 At that level you have to spend hours talking just to start having a conversation (and that's with someone that's smarter, 115-120) because you have to bring other people up to speed on your thoughts. Might as well just be ET you have as much in common with most people.

[@margaretchayka6878]

I've found having a passion for something is a much better indicator of success than simply IQ. IQ is merely potential, it doesn't mean anything unless you apply it to something you're passionate about. I personally like to do too many things, but not choosing one to focus on leaves me with much less success than others who aren't as "smart" as I am. Right now I'm a graphic designer, a baker, and I have a p/t stability job at a grocery store. This is how I usually operate. It's pretty fun most of the time, best of both worlds - self employment without having to deal with employees, and enough stability where I don't have to put up with terrible management or slacker co-workers for more than a few hours per day. Been doing this for 25 years now.

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

…..with a sample of one and not peer reviewed.

[@errrzarrr]

100% this. Discipline, industriousness are far more important

[@miketesla8550]

"I've found having a passion for something is a much better indicator of success than simply IQ. IQ is merely potential, it doesn't mean anything unless you apply it to something you're passionate about." I agree

[@lightweightiseverything5068]

Passion for things you like is so important. I, too, have many interests and in my 61-years, have had three long-term “careers,” I was/am passionate about (graphic artist, photojournalist and, currently, commercial truck salesman for nearly 20-years). I have also done more side projects/businesses I was passionate about than I can count. It doesn’t matter that most of them failed. It was the trying and the experience that mattered to me. “I gave it a shot.” I admit that I sometimes feel like my passions wasted a lot of my life’s time, as I disappointingly watched, “less smart” friends and acquaintances accomplish more of the things society judges are important (money, real estate, wives, children, etc.) by holding down the same job forever, etc. These same people will never experience anywhere near the number of things I have done and learned, so, most days I am okay with it. I have a very smart artist friend, who is one of the best custom painters, letterers, stripers in the history of the business, who once told me, “I can make anything, but money.” That about sums it up for many creative people I know. My life is okay with me, as I believe I can make it to the end using the survival skills I have learned doing so many different things. I noticed that after the 2008 economy crash, more than a few people lost their jobs and became homeless, because they were unable to pivot to do something different that could have saved them. They only knew how to do one thing. So, has society judged what is important correctly? You can only judge by your experiences.

[@mikestefka6668]

Exactly, academics always came easy for me, but I struggled to apply it to a passion.

[@CaptainSeamus]

Dr Jordan nailed it when he said that "industriousness" and IQ have no correlation. If you have a drive to get something or get something done, it's powerful. I know what my IQ was measured at (and yes, I actually did belong to Mensa for a year) but most people would look at my life as not very successful, because I didn't chase dollars. I can do a lot of different things very well, and I do the things * I * want to do. That I have stuff that I do and want to do is one thing... that it doesn't match up with what the world wants is on the world, not on me. I can't say if ultimately I will be successful in life. I raised my child well, I have a loving wife, I work at a job I love, I generally am content. What more can you ask for? And why WOULD you ask for more?

[@kimmuckenfuss2284]

You can ask for more than what you have, but few get as much as you have...also few are content ever with what they have. What I gather from reading your comment is that you don't have the "herd mentality," & you march to the beat of your own drum. Good for you. If more did this, they'd feel more free.

[@freebird2962]

Sir, you are a wise man ☺️ Keep doing what your heart tells you ❤

[@tfuenke]

Good for you man i aspire towards that kind of contentment

[@jethdaflip7741]

What career did you choose? Just curious.

[@s3m4jno5w4d]

Actually, being aware that you have a higher iq early on can be a major detriment because what really counts is hard work

[@kafkasbugmusic]

My psichologist told me once "You have the intelligence to study and be whatever you want to do" and im working at a gas delivery shop, part time, not much money but a lot of free time!

[@Danny.Duns1]

Hopefully you're doing something productive with all that free time, otherwise why not learn something that can make you money then do that something

[@kafkasbugmusic]

@@Danny.Duns1 because I don't need more money

[@shankyxyz]

I can relate very well to this. I have always felt smart, tested at 148 in IQ but never been able to work hard. I mean I did well for myself but pretty much nowhere my potential was. same issue as always, interested in too many things. getting bored with things too quickly. key to success is to work hard, be diligent and stick to things for a long enough period so that you become the dependable one. all major issues with me.

[@therealmarkzuckerberg]

What test did you take

[@jmcoldcreek2080]

Same here. Did you try to schedule your time and write your goals down. Also helps to Break tue big goal Down in little steps. For example: Major goal: University degree; little step: the next Exam. Step for today: page 460 in book xy. Helped me a lot to stay focused

[@michaplucinski142]

Well, I got into programming I belive smart people don't get bored Or get bored very very rarely I just play with my thoughts ideas Imagine some things happen or think about programms to write, or how to do so, or about some math, physics concepts I don't remember being bored at all, even tho I have to do things I don't want to do everyday, which probably are boring but I just think about a lot of things while doing them

[@jmcoldcreek2080]

@@michaplucinski142 i really like your answer. Sometimes i neglect my duties, because there are so interesting things to Think about :-)

[@kaana5748]

Samee

[@wbien6994]

I tested in high school at 135 and was called to the office and asked how I cheated. I said , so everyone around me got a higher score? They didn't know what to say. I was so bored in school so I only concentrated on subjects I liked and could care less about others.

[@bradengoodgame2131]

*couldn't

[@Rakibrown111]

Congratulations 😴

[@DouglasJWilkening]

Once again I am reminded of the story about the drunk under the lamp post. You’ve heard the story: Cop sees a drunk guy wandering around under a lamp post at night. He asks the guy, “What are you doing here?” Drunk guy says, “Looking for my car keys.” Cop, trying to be helpful, asks, “Where did you drop them? Guy says, “Across the street.” Cop asks, “So why are you looking over here?” Indignant, the drunk answers, “Because this is where the light is.” I love this story because it “illuminates” so much about science. We all know that IQ isn’t the same thing as intelligence, but IQ is what we can easily measure. IQ is “where the light is,” that is, easily observable, whereas intelligence is less well understood, across the street in the dark, so to speak. And we all know that success and good outcomes in life are quite different from money, but income and net worth are what we can measure, while our understanding of success is vague, over there across the street in the dark. So, like the drunk under the lamp post, we correlate IQ with income and we wonder why it doesn’t tell us much about success in life.

[@subhadramahanta452]

Agree

[@se6550]

While it is usually easier for a high IQ person to make money than a low IQ person, having a high IQ is no guarantee to success and I've known people with a very high IQ, that weren't motivated in the least and were quite content to just mop floors during the day. He said "I enjoy mindless work so I can think about other things while I work".

[@robinrainmaker7232]

Excellent analogy. I just learned something.

[@tommyboy1653]

Light in a dark place .

[@dennis-gk3zt]

@Douglas J Wilkening I disagree.I like the lamp post bit. But I disagree with your point. Did you listen to Dr Peterson? IQ is correlated with success in life. I don't agree that intelligence is across the street from IQ. We can measure other things than income, and net worth. Longevity is party from making wiser healthier choices. Rates of conviction for criminal activity. Educational level attainment. Ability to get along, and sustain a long marriage. But as Peterson points out IQ isn't everything. The other big fact is industriousness.

[@Emperor_Hawk]

my IQ is 132. Ive had a life of misery, homelessness, drug addiction etc, its a miracle im here. Its simply a factor of how fast you learn... what you learn is in your EQ... something im lacking

[@ladyt1866]

As a kid , I went to school with an individual that had a high I.Q., he was so smart , nothing stumped this boy. As an empath myself , I recognized he was in constant inner turmoil. He also struggled with interpersonal relationships.Probably because everyone felt stupid compared to him.

[@jladdyost]

If true, that's too bad. When I feel stupid around a person, I tend to admire them rather than feel threatened by them. Then again, I've been around some very smart people, and gotten used to the feeling. On the other hand, these people never treated me as "less than". One was my father and one is my brother.

[@Jayson-fv1cw]

Prob not cus people felt stupid around him he prob loathed the fake small talk and gave up trying to connect

[@Wr3nch3s84]

No as a person with high IQ we don't think of people in terms of idiocy and if we do we don't judge them for it is not their fault... but I can say being smart has made me an introvert and is probably the same thing that happened to him and most others

[@Person0fColor]

@@Jayson-fv1cw😂 You guys are all listening to Jordan Peterson None of you are smart 😂

[@Apxllxn]

@@Person0fColor wow what a bold statement.😄 But seriously I don't get the logic of it

[@Andrea-xw4xe]

What makes me industrious is desperation. When I was poor, I was so motivated to get out of my impoverished situation. I worked all day, and then I came home to care for my family and work all night again. I received the first diploma from a university, and it doubed doubled my income. My income at least brought me into a middle income (I don't have two incomes like most people who are married or any other relationship). After inflation, as a single parent, I am feeling like this middle income status has been knocked into the low end of middle income. I returned to school. Now I am one year into my master's degree-a different major that still relates to my first career, but with more technology and skill required. This one will double the income that i currently have. I'm so tired of having to do school after working all day. One more year is what I k😢eep reminding myself. If I wasn't so desperate, I dont think I would be as motivated as I am. My industriousness comes from necessity.

[@jessesmith3581]

Mad respect

[@EricaNernie]

Keep going. You will achieve everything you want and more. Just keep going.

[@Andrea-xw4xe]

@@EricaNernie Thank you!

[@cdeocoder9042]

Awesome keep going God bless you!🎉

[@thegettokidZz]

Dropped out at 15, and now own a multimillion dollar business. Going to school and working jobs will not make you rich. The vast majority of the time it will keep you a working class slave as intended.

[@TimJSwan]

As someone who has attempted at applying my "iq" (if you will) to a research company, it was basically impossible to get people to not confuse my reasoning with stupidity, even though I understood why I focused on the things I did. Others at my company sometimes thought that I was just 'dumb' and was 'asking questions' so they probably assumed that I had a lower iq. Maybe the social reasons are related to the 'industriousness' because sometimes people are rejected more if they are smarter because what they say is correct but unpopular and thought of as stupid instead of smart

[@holeymcsockpuppet]

Look at it like this Timothy...if an average person (100 IQ) looks at someone who has difficulty tying their shoes...they look stupid. Neither group can see the world like the other. They live in two different realities. But from where someone with a high IQ (which unlike Peterson, I would put closer to 130 instead of 120) looks at an average person, they look developemtally disabled. We see more. The world is much more complex. We see connections others will never be able to see. The world is as different to us as average people are to developmentally disabled people. I find insulting them with wit is usually the best course of action. We are superior in multiple ways and must never back down to them. We aren't stupid. They are. Think about it. They are disabled compared to us. People often hated Steve Jobs because he knew that he was right when everyone else was saying he was wrong. He refused to back down. We are at a level that average people can't see. Show no compassion to the hubristic turds that torment us. They think we are stupid because they cannot see the world we see, just like a disabled person cannot see the world an average person sees. But that does not give them the right to try and shame us. You are rarely wrong, am I correct? So put them in their place. Humility is a liability...and false humility can be fatal.

[@Snappypantsdance]

Boy, I understand what you’re saying about unpopular reasoning. I have often been assumed dumb because I ask clarifying questions to understand where others are or what they think/believe about a subject before I move on to the next step. Instead of being appreciated it is interpreted as simple or stupid. It hasn’t been until people have seen my results that they start appreciating my questions and thought processes. But you have to have ongoing contact with those people for them to see where you are at a later time. By the way, I completely disagree with Whank McSockpuppet on perspective. He talks about hubristic turds, but obviously three fingers are pointing back at him…

[@alishaanimations3058]

That..is me actually lol even I hear how “stupid” I sound

[@arielperez797]

@@holeymcsockpuppet wow there. I'm average IQ and I would never insult someone mentally disabled compared to me by saying things that they dont understand. Even if they provoked me. Emotional intelligence is important too bro.

[@michellelaudet5363]

@@holeymcsockpuppet So if you are so smart, why on earth do you miss the trees for the forest as well as the forest for the trees, thinking your high iq gives you more importance than others? You sound like the elites that also think they are so smart, buy are messing everything up. No one is even close to perfect, very smart people get that, as Peterson does. Use your intelligence for good, not to make yourself a god...

[@Zara-r5m1r]

"There is NO correlation between industriousness and high IQ" Thankyou for saying this because people in society seem to think just because they can finish college, and attain a degree, or a successful business they are "smart".

[@mkf628]

100K$ for a liberal arts degree, super clever, that

[@monztermovies]

I was a very poor student with low comprehension, yet I now hold many patents for new new products and have had a wonderful 30 year career. Success comes in many forms. Find what “you’re” meant to do. 😎

[@eysaneditss]

That's amazing. Congrats. In your opinion, do you need high IQ to be wealthy?

[@howmathematicianscreatemat9226]

@@eysaneditss if you want to go from 0 to millionaire completely alone, then absolutely yes. But if you succeed in creating a team for yourself where you have significant influence in it, then average IQ is sufficient

[@Jonesmalone562]

I think the problem with some of us who have a high IQ is overthinking, I have talked myself out of starting so many businesses that I had ideas for that I know would be great, just because I have thought about every single issue that could arise, one thing that a business person has to do is step out on a certain amount of faith and take risks, somebody who is not as intelligent may not even consider many risk factors and it could actually Aid them.

[@Person0fColor]

Oh look another high IQ individual 😂

[@emma-hs9uf]

Holy…you just described the problem I have been struggling with my whole life and especially the past few months. THANK YOU you have no idea how much your comment actually helps. That is 100% my issues I can’t shut off my brain. At first I thought I was OCD and maybe I do have a little of that idk…but definitely I anticipate like ten problems for every new project or business idea I’m fully committed to starting. But it also becomes a self proclaimed prophecy because we are just willing the failure into existence by not even trying lol I think we rely too much on our brain and not enough on the randomness of life and forget the fact we actually can’t predict outcomes…we put too much faith/weight on our thoughts. There are plenty of low IQ people who have successful businesses probably more than half 😅 so intelligence is not a solid predictor of career or financial success.

[@paulnicolas172]

Yeah ! That’s like me - always thinking if the ins and outs of everything before I make a move on some project or endeavour and sometimes that can be a hindrance but sometimes a blessing

[@humboldthammer]

In addition to being in the 90th percentile, I am an Enthusiastic Analyst. I am always seeking MORE DATA. The problem that I encountered, is that I am so enthusiastic, that my first conclusions are usually WRONG. I have learned to wait for that moment, and then to wait for further analysis. Fortunately, I learned that by forty.

[@Jonesmalone562]

Always remember emotional thought isn't always rational thought, most of the time things are not just black and white, so you have to look at it from all sides of the story not just one or two, and then you need to analyze why it stirs the emotions that it does, but you may realize that from one side of the fence it may not stir the exact same emotion, issues that are black and white however, those should be clear.

[@diana-]

It takes a certain amount of intelligence to recognise the limitations of others, but it takes wisdom to accept these limitations and be willing to humbly assist when needed.

[@jaygold4467]

Intelligent people have no obligation to accept others limited ability. Actually they should be avoided.

[@qweewq-h7p]

That depends. If you were, for example, heavily bullied for 10 years in school, and got from the mental hole only when you was in your early 30s, it is wise not to be willing to assist anyone for free.

[@humboldthammer]

Don't Worry. The NEON GAUD -- that sentient machine and comptroller of our currencies -- will be unveiled at the Great Re-Set -- originally scheduled for 09/23/26, the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year. BUT, because the Debt hit $33 trillion early, the Re-Set will be advanced. But first, WAR. God vs God vs NOT God vs NO God in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction. hint: Secret Societies. THEN, 10/12/26, "You have destroyed yourselves with your endless wars of Gods. Now bow down and worship YOUR BEAST." That's what Xi says.

[@anatolydyatlov963]

​@@qweewq-h7p Let me share a different perspective, one that's surprisingly common among highly-intelligent people. Think of every person as a unique mix of their life experiences and genetic code that shapes who they are. When you adopt this view, you begin to see people as intricate, biological machines constantly interacting with each other. If someone harms you, no matter how seriously, you don't cling to anger or seek revenge. Instead, you might think "My friend, I'm not sure what experiences led you to this behavior, but I feel sorry for you. I hope one day you'll be fixed, because at this moment, something seems to be malfunctioning". In simpler terms, if a chair you're sitting on suddenly breaks, causing you to fall, you don't get angry at the chair. You try to repair it. In a similar way, many highly-intelligent people view others as these complex systems. They see them as either functioning properly or not, without assigning moral blame for their actions. In the scenario you mentioned, if the person who was bullied grasped this concept, they would still be willing to assist others. They wouldn't hold resentment, understanding that they were impacted by "faulty" living systems. If they shared the exact genetic makeup and life experiences as their aggressors, they would likely have behaved in the same way.

[@chaskiandcie]

I'm waiting for the moment that I will accept people's flaws. For now, it disappoints me, fills me with frustration, and hurts me a lot. I will do my best to overcome it

[@dummeponk]

The issue with high IQ is that people usually use it to rationalize your ego’s desire in a very sophisticated and convincing way rather than doing what is most logically sound

[@user-zr6pl6nb6z]

Is that the issue, because I have what's considered to be a high IQ and people hate me for my logic.

[@andyiswonderful]

I think anxiety plays a key role in industriousness and in avoiding procrastination. The unpleasantness of anxiety compels some neurotic people to avoid procrastination, to over-prepare, and to be industrious. When I was in college, I would become anxious if I didn't fully understand all of the course material, so I studied very hard. No matter how hard an exam was, even if I did badly on it, I always did much better than the average student. So, I was summa cum laude.

[@patriciaovincent7075]

I can relate to this so much

[@gordonharper9126]

You could try this............. Get a f****** job any job and work it every day. Take one day a week off and do what you want. Live on 60% of your income and put back the rest. Don't drink and don't get high. You seem to be living your life as if you're still a child. You're stuck.

[@filiberto2266]

true

[@maxlebow7373]

THIS!

[@bySimyna]

Anxiety can also make you avoid the thing that makes you anxious and therefore procrastinate, So I don’t think that’s it.

[@lohkie2__3]

For me as a child the attention that came with being more intelligent than my peers didn't click in my brain the correct way, instead of feeling pride or happy from the "great jobs" and "honor rolls" I felt embarrassment and cringe so like a dumbass I stopped and for some reason crumbled into myself. I don't understand why and I regret it so much. Even today at damn near 40 compliments are hard to take and make me feel dirty, I don't get it.

[@dll7658]

Damn

[@Steve_826]

I agree I'm mid 20s and barely read a full book and passed 4 yrs of college and secondary with ease and yeah feel embarrassed to admit it and when I get praise or recognition I cringe. Purposely would miss assignments simply to lower my mark.

[@veronica0071000]

This may or may not be your situation, but i as a female feel this in my bones. I think it might even be the springboard for why so many women with high iqs and divergent intelligence make it a point to only pursue what people say they can’t, and men tend to pursue things they are interested in, but also good at-and the longer time elapses the “good at” increases for both, but I’ve only recently learned that it’s a horrible reason to pursue anything, just because someone says you can’t. There is one outlier. That is the brain changes itself. Now I can do science and high level math and it doesn’t impede my art. But I digress

[@Alain_Du_Bois]

I am 18 and realised that my brain has learned to interpret success as something to fear due to how I was always raised above my peers. Over time it has developed into a toxic association between happyness and sadness. Whenever I felt happy I quickly became limp and hollow. And whenever I felt sad I felt at home and safe. Truly horrifying, at least for me

[@YesJellyfish]

You may wanna check out dr K's video's on the gifted child. The channel is called healthygamer, but it's not just for gamers. He often talks about how gifted children, especially high IQ children are actually special needs kids, because they literally have special needs compared to most kids. How things like "you're smart, you'll be fine" can either make them really arrogant or put a pressure on them never to fail. It can discredit their feelings and it causes them to skip over discipline lessons in school. It can cause them to underdevelop emotionally, because they overuse intellect. And much more. You may find it interesting. At the very least I'd like to tell you that it makes sense to me you felt like that. Kids wanna be normal, it's in their biology. Sticking out can be dangerous, whether you're better or worse. Hope you're doing better now

[@jighflaukst]

In high school, I was told in a meeting with my mom and counselors that my iq was 99. I was distraught for a while, as i didnt know what that meant for my future. I now always try to tell myself that im not "smart" just to keep myself down to earth. I have mild aspergers, a high reading ability, and an uncanny memory with which i can memorize names and numbers nearly without fail. In some ways i know im doing alright, in others i know i have shortcomings. Thats life.

[@lindapoulton2982]

From what I know, people with Aspergers are pretty smart! Don't sell yourself short. You have abilities which other people don't have, and there are many types of 'intelligence'. I suspect that many of the world's great thinkers/inventors/scientists etc were 'on the spectrum.' :-)

[@lolollhe3361]

But 100 iq is the average iq, if you have 99, you have basically average IQ.

[@wolfmantroy6601]

You've an average IQ.

[@MrsRowse]

Average IQ, nothing to feel bad about! You're great!

[@margaretnorman2093]

We all do. Persevere!

[@meinungabundance7696]

My thoughts on procrastination: As a teenager I was procrastinating big time at school. But I was really into parties and social interactions (as many tennagers are). Already at that time I somehow realised that you dont procrastinate the more you are INTERESTED in stuff and the more INFORMATION you have about the subject already. Have you ever seen surgeons or scientists procrastinating? The ability of not procrastinating is not a cognitive feature, it is somehow connected to the level of dopamine. that's why after having taken Ritaline, you can FOCUS and MAKE USE of your intelligence which otherwise might go unrecognised.

[@FarhanAbroad]

I think high IQ people move forward regardless of the chaos, and CREATE the order from what's thrown at them. This allows them to go places where others wouldn't

[@apinojilazul6571]

how prepare men and woman before have sex, for produce babies with rare inteligence genius ?

[@apinojilazul6571]

how to make genius babies, using parenting habits and not technology.

[@epicenterbasshd9636]

@@apinojilazul6571 or having genius grandparents like mine, I’m grateful for them btw

[@jmfs3497]

You have to take into account how demoralizing it can be to be surround by people dumber than you, more violent than you, more manipulative than you, etc. You can be incredibly smart and be treated like a threat for simply being your best self, so you end up trying to hide yourself or seeing your intelligence as a bad thing.

[@Rakibrown111]

I’m both intelligent and violent, one doesn’t exclude the other.

[@Rakibrown111]

Also some of the most manipulative people I’ve know have been in the 150-160 IQ range, I’ve known a few. There is nothing more interesting and entertaining to them than to play people off against each other, playing sophisticated games without anyone knowing they are pulling all the strings. But then again, if you were smart you would know all these things yourself via observation. Maybe pay more attention to the reality around you rather than stick to a bunch of biases to help you justify whatever it is you are trying to justify.

[@Qjuu611]

@@Rakibrown111I don’t think highly intelligent people have an interest in people for them to be just playing games with them. Unless you mean outsmarting others then it’s a game their forced to play

[@aster5031]

​@@Rakibrown111You just showed your bias, justifying your tendency towards violent behavior. You projected.

[@Rakibrown111]

@@Qjuu611 like I said I've known verified extreme high IQ people and some like playing games with people, pitting them against each other, seeing what will happen, sitting back and laughing about it all afterwards, like it's a fun puzzle.

[@angelosliotscos8405]

Genius often encounters violent opposition from mediocre minds. Mediocrity goes after genius with a vengeance. Albert Einstein

[@angelosliotscos8405]

In reviewing these comments, I sense a continuous thread of negativity towards our brightest minds. You will not find this attitude towards our best athletes , musicians or any other field of superb accomplishment. Only the best of minds encounter this ENVY.

[@_Mentat]

@@angelosliotscos8405 Being out-thought is the greatest humiliation because stupid people pride themselves on their intelligence, due to the Dunning-Kruger effect. They don't pride themselves on their athletic or musical abilities, so their _amour propre_ is not damaged by seeing others achieve what they couldn't.

[@douglasnovak4584]

Mediocrity IS the enemy in all aspects of life. Luckily I have only two speeds: Full throttle and stop.

[@basantidevi2305]

I have IQ of 130 and I'm highly intuitive. I have an extremely difficult time with the world at 53. There are so many unintelligent people to deal with who have low EIQ as well. I also have no family. They're all dead. I have a lot of apathy now. Any disgust I have is the lack of intelligence of people around me. I have depression at times. I get heartbroken if I fall in love and it hits me very hard for a long time. People get intimidated by me, mostly women. I keep my mouth shut until I can't anymore and I believe because I respond to social situations by being on the circumference and by being my own woman with my own mind I never go along with group think or mob. This makes others unable to figure me out. Very few understand me and I've given up trying to be undersood.

[@donbrabo]

As a person with a very AVERAGE IQ of 115 (officially tested 2 years ago) I still outperform some of my smarter peers and this was all because of my grandfather's advice. First you should know he was incredibly smart - officially tested at 144 according to my grandmother and he always told me; "If you aren't as smart as you'd like to be, be different by actually following through with project and plans because no matter how intelligent or dumb people are the biggest problem is that most folks don't follow through." I kept this in mind and started outworking all my colleagues, finish all my projects and all that I could not remember neatly written down on a to do list and now I earn more than my parents, most family members and all my childhood friends. And I will continue to grow because of this tip. I hope it is as useful to you as it was to me. Bless❤

[@Feeelipeeee]

115 is gifted already bro, 90-110 is average.

[@donbrabo]

@Felipe2009cvb as much as I appreciate what you are trying to say, I made mine through Mensa and only IQ's above 116 are considered above average. 115 is considered to be "high average" but nothing too out of the ordinary

[@asmemeas]

Sounds like a smart man haha

[@Person0fColor]

@@asmemeasthis is a Jordan Peterson video, everyone here is a genius with a high IQ 😂

[@asmemeas]

@@Person0fColor Or so we all claim eh?

[@joban4963]

I had a high IQ, but my parents were anti-nurture types. A borderline and bipolar mother who effectively wanted me to remain a toddler forever and would relentlessly punish me for showing any hint of personality or will. A father with narcissism who never had time for me, and who never loved me. It was decided when I was quite young that the only role I could serve on earth is to fit my mother's narrative of who I was, and allow my father to use my name to commit fraud. Neither of them were ever willing to engage me in conversation, and both actively sabotaged my every attempt to grow. Unfortunately in my early teens they were able to defeat me and I spent almost 15 years effectively catatonic, only able to leave bed 1-2 times a week. Couldn't put any effort in at school even if I'd wanted to. I received literally zero help for my mental health whatsoever. On the other side of that I was given mountains of 'help' for problems I supposedly had. A consistent theme of my childhood was my every need being ignored, while needs were assigned to me that I was then punished for not having. I probably would have run away when I was still a child, but having been deliberately isolated, convinced that the people mistreating me actually loved me so the outside world would be much worse, and kept back long enough to completely destroy my life. My IQ has been of absolutely no help tbh

[@dwightevans8545]

My heart is hurt when I see what you went through. I perceive you are a wonderful person. I encourage you to use your pain to help those like you who have gone through that type of hell. God bless you, and HE will.

[@jaceym5662]

I had a similar experience, but instead of a father I had a brother that would torment me and constantly fight with my mother. She would treat me like her personal servant and take money from me promising to pay me back but never actually doing it.

[@ryanlynch290]

I'm sorry to hear that Jo. Have you gotten the help you needed and started to turn your life around?

[@jennykelter9518]

I went through a similar experience to yours. You’re not alone.

[@dillonkayser4215]

You’ve got to relax. Hit the reset button, take a trip to Cancun or something. Exercise. Go for a run. Put your mind to something. Don’t let poor parenting keep you from living a great life, buddy. High IQ comes with pros and cons, focus on the pros and go get it!

[@BeckRed]

I grew up in the country, surrounded by a large extended family of aunts and uncles, etc. They had grown up dirt poor, none went to college, but had all done well. I never realized how smart they were until I got out in the world. By middle school, I knew the names of many world leaders, and had a basic understanding of politics, tensions in the Middle East, the decline of the Soviet Union, differing world religions, historical events, economics…all from sitting in the corner listening to the adults talk around my aunt’s kitchen table, drinking coffee and eating dessert, lol. I thought every family was like that. They’re not. I learned more in that corner than I did in college. Which I attended on a full ride academic scholarship. I’m thankful for them and the genetic blessings, and yes, I’d choose that over immense wealth any day.

[@angharadlewis7426]

Even at 5, I can remember dinner parties my parents had, where I would be put to bed, but sneak down to hide behind the door to listen to the conversations. To this day I still gravitate to the older people in the room to at least try and find someone who can hold a decent conversation, know stuff I don’t, have expertise in some random or interesting area etc……..I constantly see things other people do not, see through BS like lightning, know things that even I don’t know where I picked up the knowledge and I get into a lot of trouble for it. Powers of reasoning and deduction are apparently frightening to people who don’t do that.

[@rosiemackenzie5976]

A great inheritance has nothing to do with money.

[@dog_guy-c8x]

I used to have a pretty good IQ but then I got old and cant remember where the hell I put my glasses now. LOL.

[@greenbrain8725]

That describes my family too. It’s an eye opener!

[@davidwilliam6555]

I highly believe what makes people industrious is a blend of factors, one being very influential in particular: - Main: Higher usage of prefrontal cortex, related to executive tasks (as seen in OCD) - Possible: Internalized self-worthness perception (how much one believes they're the protagonist & NEEDs, yearns to excel) - Possible: Trained neuropathways, as in taught/self-trained behavior, such as in a systematic upbringing. - Possible: Internalized sense of duty or social responsibility - could be accountable for industriousness in certain situations where the behavior affects others, for example, a student living on their parents money to complete university, might feel more INTERNAL pressure to complete the course, depending on their sense of responsibility (again, could be linked to prefrontal cortex, since it's been documented people become more responsible as it matures) TLDR: I pinpoint some deep thought speculations as to possible causes of industriousness, summing it as a collective of factors that each could account for parts of the currently broadly encompassing notion of the industrious trait. Maybe we get to subdivide the trait in more specific situations to better study it in the future.

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

I have been born with a low IQ. I have been tested twice. The first time scored 72, the second time 70. My blood is boiling when I see people in the comment section trying to lay out a high IQ as a disadvantage. Having a low IQ makes everything in life harder to a substantial amount. One of the most significant fields affected by that, is school respectively work. Though I learned a lot in school, I only wrote bad marks. The time my sister needed to achieve an A, I need to achieve a D. While others where complimented and cherished for their effort, I was looked down on and disrespected, though I worked as hard as them. I barely passed high school. I tried college but dropped out immediately. The last ten years have been extremely hard. The only jobs I find are the ones, which do not provide a stable income. I am basically poor. The last shoes I bought was ten years ago. My toilet is broken but I can’t afford a repair. My apartment is tiny and small. On top of that I never had any friends. Never. Not as a kid, not as a teen and certainly not as an adult. I am slow, like rally slow. I cannot make any jokes. Or tell witty stories. Or discuss complex subjects. I would like to, but my brain is to slow. People always noticed that. I was bullied, beaten up and laughed at. I tried to make friends, but nobody wanted to be my friend. Even if people respected me, people never wanted to hang out with me. One time a kid tolled me I am just to boring. I spent my complete childhood and teenage years in isolation. And since leaving school nothing has obviously changed. I go weeks without talking to anybody. If I need help, I cannot contact anybody. Now I know, a lot of people claim to be friendless, but I am also chronically single. As if Though I had the courage to ask women out, every single one of them rejected me. I also tried online dating. No women have ever matched me back. I never had a hug, a kiss or a date. Such a life is only filled with suffering. In every single aspect.

[@andrepipo4542]

Are you ugly too? I ask out of pure curiosity

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

@@andrepipo4542 What do you mean with ugly?

[@andrepipo4542]

@@ceooflonelinessinc.267 Due to women rejecting you

[@ceooflonelinessinc.267]

@@andrepipo4542 But what to you mean with ugly? Everybody finds something else ugly?

[@andrepipo4542]

@@ceooflonelinessinc.267 I mean objectively unattractive - most people find you not so good looking

[@jcbuundercoverjcbuundercover]

I have taken an IQ test and scored very high. I grew up with seven brother and sisters. I believe alot has to to with common sense. When you see what happens to your older brother and sisters where they went wrong you say to yourself I'll never do that. Especially when you see the consequences. You always learn from others whether they are smart or so so. Being the last born of eight siblings I've seen alot. They went through turmoils and survived. I love everyone of them!

[@donmiller2908]

"You always learn from others whether they are smart or so so" I agree, I've often used the intellectually challenged as a beacon to show my daughters what not to do in life.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

what was the test experience like? which test was it?

[@boboiboy9350]

same. being born as the last siblings of 4. all men. my brothers are all successful individuals and working class ppl. we are university graduates with bachelor degree and one of my brother hold master’s degree. I strive to see their whole purpose of life. I wish to become successful too one day but not following their steps. I want to be self employed and see freedom of everything as huge success for me. But am still struggling to find my own paths and still figuring out things. I tend to overthink too much. Guess thats my weakness. Comparing themselves with me didnt help either

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

so you're not going to share what the testing experience was like?

[@emac543]

You also have good critical thinking, which I don't think is reflected on the IQ test. I've known many high IQ people, who do not have that common sense or see cause and effect.

[@yougeo]

As a person with a relatively high IQ I am less industrious because I know I can save myself at the last minute. I also have thought through many things in realized many of the things people seek to achieve have little to no value in the enjoyment of life so I'm happier with less. I think this has an effect on my procrastination which is considerable. But I have noticed that I can always save myself at the last minute and in fact the adrenaline kick I get from waiting until the last minute seems to trigger a more intelligent well thought out response or action and if I had done it when I was less in need. The classic high school or college term paper writer at the last minute is a perfect example. But I find that that extends throughout adult life as well. I think if you were smarter and you see Life as a whole you begin to realize that free time and indeed time to think and explore new ideas is actually one of the greatest pleasures in life so the last thing you want to do is fit some classic model of industriousness which is poorly defined but usually relates to working very hard to achieve goals that other people in society think are important but a smart person after a period of time I will say that in my youth I was more industrious because I cared more about what other people thought because I had not yet realized that having that new car to impress somebody else or having that stack of money in the bank account was not really as important as other people were telling me it was. So industriousness was related to trying to prove things to other people which a smart person may realize later in life are really not important goals. And I think very few smart people have a genuine desire to have the newer most expensive car which would require you to work harder and therefore fit the classic definition or loose definition of industriousness. I often refer to myself as lazy but what that really means is I take a lot of free time to explore a lot of subjects mentally that I would not have the time to do if I was trying to fit the classic definition of industriousness. I would guess that people who are smarter learn to work in intense spurts which gain them enough Independence to go back to pursuing what they really want to do if they have not set up some system which self pays them either through returns on investment or investments in Independence through land ownership etc. I think smart people learn to do those things pretty quickly or else depend on their ability to do short spurts of intense work that will exceed the abilities of others and therefore create enough payoff to give them another time. Of being more relaxed and able to explore the mental subjects that they prefer to spend their time on.

[@epicenterbasshd9636]

What concepts do you explore on your free time just curious. For me it’s philosophy and, theoretical physics

[@chikotembo]

Duuude, this is so me! My best thinking comes at the final hour. Just give me coffee and tobacco!

[@GaZonk100]

yep, me there Mr Starburst Last-Minute Intensity

[@User-oy4mw]

Plus the side ego boost after successfully accomplishing your work in small time which usually requires more time.

[@Loyalhusband]

Lol my family and friends get so fkn pissed when proudly boast I’m better doing shit last minute lol. They hate me until I find the solution and they all just shut up

[@penguingirl7566]

I think being industrious comes from having a very stable upbringing and good personal life / social life. The more social people seem to not get dragged down as easily by monotony , I always noticed that. There is a lot of mental illness in my family . I have always had trouble sticking with things partially because of the instability at home but also because of the boringness and repetitiveness of most jobs 😅I had very good government job once but it was so boring and repetitive, and the stupid little things that you had to do over and over again were like torture. I’m also a bit introverted and can’t stand the bullshit of most work environments, the small talk and the having to conform to things that you know are wrong or incorrect, to last in any job nowadays you have to have one kind of personality, it’s not enough to be just good at the job either

[@Tigrebleau1]

High intelligence is a gift, or a "talent" if you will. It is true that hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

[@breaks3085]

Not true my child

[@sirrealism7300]

​@@breaks3085 Milts youtube channel is older than yours they outrank you.

[@maryberry6067]

When I became an (adult) and observed how my high IQ brothers and sister treated others, I'm so grateful to be the stupid one in the family.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

The LESS i be using use my brain the more happy i am 😀

[@thorodinson6649]

Yes, my arrogance is ridiculous

[@charlottewilliams574]

Interesting. I have noticed I lose patience with people really quickly. What's worse is, I can't hide it. I feel like an awful person later. How I have any friends is beyond me. I'm judgemental, bossy, all the negative traits lol! I guess being raised working class was a blessing because if I was affluent I'd be a nightmare.

[@breaks3085]

I got a low I.Q but happened to be GIFTED with the physique to make ANY man OR woman ENVIOUS. I gain the quickest results at building muscles an improving my body composition. 💪.

[@ron56pvi13]

My parents sent me to a private school because of my high IQ and I did exceptionally well there. After their divorce, I went to public school where no one cared if I completed my assignments. I was a serial underachiever straight through college and finally retired from a major city's police department 20 years ago. It was either that job or a geologist on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

[@davidc4408]

Oil rig job sounded better

[@Person0fColor]

And yet another “high IQ” individual that listens to Jordan Peterson 😂 Very high IQ of you

[@nomchompsky2883]

i'm a certified mensa member with a 138 IQ... i'm so proud to announce i break the normal standards of petersons analysis... in that i fail at everything. lol... (not really a "lol", believe me)

[@joshuaper1]

As a low IQ person I find it satisfying cheerleading for high IQ people

[@jenniferspisak]

Same!🥳🥳🤙🏼🤓

[@Sinusoid-]

You can improve upon that(Your iq). Your brain is elastic. It builds new nerve connections as you learn new concepts.

[@joshuaper1]

@@jenniferspisak i don't really cheerlead but i coach it, that shit is a sport and it's technically full contact with no protective gear. but yea lol

[@chaitanyavelamala7268]

@@Sinusoid- if you think IQ can be increased. Jordan peterson has to be new to you

[@Sinusoid-]

@@chaitanyavelamala7268 nope, I know how much he doesn’t know about the brain or about neuroscience. The brain builds new pathways when it learns. New nerve connections are formed as people develop skills. The ability to form these new connections does slow down with age. However, intelligence is not fixed. This idea stems from genetic determinism, which is a by product of eugenic beliefs(aka scientific racism). Eugenics is a product of old disproven views that developed in the early 1900 America. It really took off with hitler and the nazi party. As a biomedical engineering major, this becomes easy to see. Clinical psychologists study surface level behavior. As opposed to professions such as psychiatry, where professionals deal with physiological and mental issues from a biological perspective. For example, they get behind microscopes, they observe hard data rather than sitting from a chair while wearing fancy suits like Peterson does. Also, even other clinical psychologists know that Peterson is simply spouting word salads.

[@amind1317]

People who are highly in industriousness seem to be intensely motivated by fear sensitivities. They seem to get more frequency of signals to conform, fit in, comply.

[@letsgoBrandon204]

That seems more like orderliness to me. Have everything in it's correct place to minimise chances of things going wrong. Conform to what seems to have worked for others. It's still conscientiousness though

[@hufficag]

That's true if I think about it. I live in China. Chinese people are high on fear and industriousness. Edit: Damn you're smart, you might have just solved a major puzzle. After being a top student and graduating engineering, I went traveling the world and as my fear dropped so did my industriousness. You become this guy who everyone says has insights into everything but hasn't accomplished anything in life by 40.

[@logoski589]

My industriousness seems to come from being completely unsociable. I don't care about work or the success of the company but if my options are checking off another work task or small talk with a coworker then I'm going with the work task. Helps to have a deal with my boss that I can leave once my workload is done without losing pay....awesome incentive.......it's going to blow when he retires.

[@slickwillie9526]

In Elementary School I took the Iowa test and received the lowest score ever recorded for my entire school. This was in the early 70's. We had a parent/teacher conference with the principle attending. They were puzzled how I received high grades in class but failed the test so miserably. I told them we were given instruction that the test did not matter and would not effect our grade, so I just guessed at every question, put the test down, and went back to my thoughts. They asked me if I felt challenged, and I responded - I find it all so boring, especially her, and pointed to my teacher. I ended up skipping a grade over this.

[@karenk2409]

I am a retired teacher. A good teacher would have recognized and challenged you. I loved kids like you. You were pains in the ass in a good way.

[@gardenjoy5223]

@@karenk2409 And we would have loved to have you as our teacher! But alas...

[@greenfinmusic5142]

I did that on the PSAT. I thought it stood for 'Practice SAT'. It was the first test I had ever blown off; just lolligagged and drew pictures and then randomly marked the remaining circles when the time was about up. Still somehow got a 98th percentile, but not the 99.9th that I always scored before and after on all IQ/standardized tests up through grad school. I had no idea they based scholarship money on the PSAT. A much duller student got a 99 and received a $10k scholarship for it. I could have easily surpassed her if I hadn't been a rebellious idiot on that occasion. Missed out on a lot of extra beer money that day...

[@eugenefirebird8938]

No big mystery. People are industrious because accomplishment makes one feel good about themselves. Even working toward any goal feels good.

[@jordanmicahcook]

Productivity and industriousness have a lot more to do with your “Why” and your “Belief” that you can accomplish something, and your emotional stability than raw intelligence. If the thing you are endeavoring to do outweighs the obstacles in your mind to a great enough degree, you will gladly and consistently pursue what you want. When you see protection or survival instincts kick in for someone, they can accomplish seemingly miraculous feats of strength and courage. This same concept also applies to long-term planning, but the person has to believe that the changes made today will ultimately move them in the desired direction. One reason this is so hard to catalog is because the effects and degree of impact of a person’s faith are almost impossible to assign a percentage to, thus their belief could contribute a small amount, or an overwhelming amount to the overall equation.

[@jfamo3552]

Did bobby Fischer seem ' orderly ' As a example. Not a long life either yet he revolutionized a game that many academics could never understand. What makes this psychologist any different? Jordan always with the half correct. Take diogenes .. Alexander the Great came to talk to him. He Embarrassed Plato's definition of a man. A homeless guy. I have to add.. if we watched chimpanzees gather together , put themselves in a type of intellectual caste system, then put together a quiz designed to measure their own intelligence, don't you think you'd have a laugh? What makes humans any different?

[@jordanmicahcook]

@@jfamo3552 I think the real question here is regarding how comprehensively the IQ test covers the contributive qualities of an individual. Analytical thinking is one type of human intelligence, but I’d wager that Dr. Martain Luther King Jr. didn’t have nearly the IQ that Terrance Tao does, yet his contribution to the unification and moralization of society has greatly outweighed the inspirational contributions of countless people who had greater analytical prowess. The IQ test doesn’t have any means by which to measure this equally necessary contributive ability. Should MLK have been relegated to a lower status because he had a inferior “problem-solving” abilities? I certainly don’t think so.

[@jfamo3552]

@@jordanmicahcook so ..what ever is a utility to the ruling class..including the academic body..should be classified as intellectual capability. Got it. ' approved ' A 'test' is only as good as the men who design it.

[@jfamo3552]

@@jordanmicahcook please define those contributive qualities. Who makes that appraisal? I'm just curious since I've never taken an IQ test and I'm probably half a retard.

[@jfamo3552]

@@jordanmicahcook and some of the best scientists in the world were Nazi sympathizers. I got it. My bad. Hey but they contributed a lot!

[@Robotogram]

I was 15 when the Midwest states gave all the high schools the IQ and SAT test. When the results came in I was singled out as being in the 99% on both tests. It was determined that I wasn’t being challenged enough so the high school gave me complete control over what I wanted to learn. No classes no teachers and no class schedules. I was allowed to walk into ANY classroom and learn anything I wanted. I learned more than any other student in the school. It’s not about how smart you are, it’s the freedom to learn anything you want that motivates you to learn more! The true motivation of the school was to keep me happy because I put them on the map. During the entire 3 years I never told any of my friends or fellow students anything about my status. I just let them go on and on about how smart they are, it made them feel good about themselves. Currently I have 5 different degrees and 6 certifications.

[@Person0fColor]

Wouldn’t you know it yet another genius in the comment thread 😂

[@marco7563]

cringy af bragger

[@ruohonleikkaaja]

@@Person0fColoryou do realise that intelligent people are more likely to leave a comment in a video about IQ which causes oversaturarion of people claiming they have high IQ in the comments.

[@thegettokidZz]

5 degrees and 6 certifications and still poorer than me with 0 degrees and 0 certifications. Your mind equating academic achievements to intellectual propensity reveals your lack of understanding of what constitutes intelligence.

[@randomnobody9229]

I tested 99th percentile, and I didn't have any of that nonsense happen. This post smells like bs. All I got for my great testing is that I'm really good at solving certain problems, yet still somehow struggle to function in daily life. These tests only tell you so much about intelligence, and I am sorely lacking that in certain areas that are not tested.

[@anjiedavie6792]

My late husband had a high IQ of 148 (he died at the age of 67 so no longevity for him). But he was peculiarly " blessed" with poor common sense whereas my children and I had to explain things to him from time to time. It was the cause of much amusement to us at his expense. Us laughing at him fortunately didn't bother him. Neither of us liked to study. I have 6 grandchildren with varying degrees of intelligence. Two are wizards in Physics and Maths, just like their grandfather. One is particularly industrious, and highly logical. One is very arty. One is a good all rounder but lacks in confidence. All five have done well academically. The sixth is dyspraxic (there's dyslexia in my family) and his academic achievements are modest although his IQ is not low. He recently attained his HGV licence. I suspect he may well be the wealthiest of the lot.

[@rwdchannel2901]

That's how humans are supposed to be. If the world was full of scientist it would be gloomy. Arts often come first and science is a tool for them.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

What type of things would you have to explain to your husband?

[@anjiedavie6792]

@@GORILLA_PIMP Too many to list!

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

@@anjiedavie6792 What a useless stupid answer You wrote a huge long azz comment up there but now you too lazy to type out a specific example?

[@apinojilazul6571]

how to make genius babies, using parenting habits and not technology.

[@Rockers1121]

Im an alcoholic. Three years sober in February. I had a very difficult time expressing myself growing up. I grew up reading a lot of books and was actually quite nerdy in my younger years. When I became a teenager and started meeting people, I was socially awkward. I did make some friends despite my awkwardness, and we bonded while we got ourselves into trouble. We had a lot of fun drinking and experimenting with drugs. I was very sensitive to drugs and alcohol and now when I reflect back, alcohol definitely had a negative impact on my life as a result of that sensitivity. I abused alcohol despite its negative consequences. I repeated the same mistakes over and over and was often embarrassed because of that. I honestly am not quite sure what my IQ is. I dont consider myself to be unintelligent. I do know that when I applied myself, I always did well in school. I stay up at night thinking and studying about all sorts of random topics to keep myself engaged. I just happen to have a restless mind. I still have trouble relating to people without alcohol to buffer the engagement. Im slowly learning, though. I do enjoy my alone time these days. I like deep and meaningful conversations that actually challenge my intellect. It's hard for me to place myself in a group, or even one on one with people who dont have anything of interest to offer in the intellectual arena. I do have friends, and I do try to engage with people when the opportunity arrives, but like I said, I love my alone time these days. If you have a drinking problem and you are reading this, .. I want you to know that stopping is possible, and if you are as bad as I was (I was hopeless), then please do yourself a favor and step out of your comfort zone and go and seek some help. There is no shame in self-preservation. Not everyone will be relatable in this world, and not everyone is as boring and as different from you, as you might think. You will likely meet someone who will have some beneficial advice. Dont think yourself out of the opportunity to live a more fulfilling and rewarding life. Sobriety is wonderful. It really is an adventure you wouldn't want to miss out on. It's not easy at first, and the path is rocky, but it will smooth out after some time, and you will probably experience a spirituality that will enlighten the soul, and rocket you into the 4rth dimension in ways that a drink or a drug never could. You will more easily "make your bed" .. Just like Jordan Peterson says.

[@roberthuttle]

The happiest I've ever been was when I was broke and homeless. The friends I had were real and true. No hidden motives. Nobody to worry about stealing anything. Now I have great credit, money, but almost zero friends, I can't trust anyone these days.

[@xodroid9853]

How does anyone else even know you have money or great credit?

[@brettmmontague]

Weird that I have the exact same story and say the exact same thing to people. Even though I'm not homeless anymore like I have no interest in pursuing money or anything like that and I don't think I ever will again Sometimes I feel like I'm subconsciously even trying to get myself to be homeless again because I miss that feeling. One thing I'll add is that I really enjoyed the problem-solving aspect of being homeless if that makes sense. Everyday I had goals that were more than just made up goals like they were staying alive ( and getting drugs if I'm being honest) But I felt like I was Master of my own domain and I have things to do every single day and I was happy

[@johnhenkel1828]

The concept of being orderly is similar to the difference between a tunnel and a forest. There is only one path in a tunnel, it is orderly, but there are limitless paths in a forest as well as a continuous supply of changing stimulus data.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

The path in a tunnel is VERY obvious, the path through a forest needs some form of navigation.

[@wesley6442]

Right, it's not as interesting or stimulating to the senses.. I believe IQ may be associated with Neuroticism as part of the Big 5 personality traits, I think more nervous/anxious individuals are more cautious and take in information before proceeding, they acquire knowledge on their environment, stay informed and ready for any situation..to them knowledge is power. And also, thanks to our ancestors taking the first steps into the unknown and exploring those genes bestowed greater survive-ability and were passed on more than not.. it is risky exploring your environment but also has the potential to reaping the most benefit in acquiring food and such

[@ST-ff1zd]

I’m interested in the intersection of intelligence & wisdom. Two very different things. Intelligence is good to have, but wisdom is the real prize.

[@MrKFNeverGiveUp]

People I know who were absolute failures in school education (they left school early/or were suspended) but they did very well in life and were successful through their high intelligence, creativity and their wisdom. There are different levels of intelligence and IQ tests do not cover the different levels of intellect/intelligence.

[@angelosliotscos8405]

I was a member of MENSA with an IQ of 171. Surprised to find that genius is prone to procrastination, poor spelling and the tendency to gravitate to low level jobs such as truck driver. Genius is very similar to Sigma males. They both do not give a damn of what you think of them. They both value total independence. You would think they value accomplishment but they do not. It takes an awful lot to interest them in anything. I was trying to understand myself better by joining. Instead, I am more confused than I was before. Attempting to understand genius is comparable to trying to comprehend God. It seems everything we thought about genius is wrong.

[@watamutha]

Conversations with normal people or about normal things is often painfully boring.

[@Gothiqueluv]

I almost spit out my coffee .... Procrastination, poor spelling, & truck driving? You just described me to a tee. 😳 Ok back to home work that's already late. 😉

[@angelosliotscos8405]

@@Gothiqueluv genius don't do homework.

[@Gothiqueluv]

@@angelosliotscos8405 😂

[@angelosliotscos8405]

@@Gothiqueluv Seriously, I had to work in a grocery store some 50 hours a week while attending grade school. So I forged a note to my teachers from my parents asking to be excused from all homework as a family provider. It worked. By grade 7, I taught myself to really, really listen in class to not just learn but to understand without doing any homework. This technique won me both silver and gold medals for highest scholastic achievement. I could even spell then. Can't be bothered with spelling now.

[@MeemsKaso]

My father, his twin brothers, their father, & his father (my uncles, my grandpa, my great grandpa) had registered IQ’s of 160-170. I grew up surrounded by great men. None of them were millionaires. But they all gave to their country & were successful in their professions. I loved when they were all together during family occasions & holidays. I sat & listening to every word they said. They were very different human beings. They communicated with each other very differently than they communicated with the rest of us. They all were observers. In a large crowd they would be in the corners & also the first to leave. On a side note, they were tall men. The shortest my dad at 6’4”. He was called the runt. How I miss them all.

[@aGenericBanana]

what did they do differently while communicating?

[@thegettokidZz]

What were they named? A family like that would be world famous for the rarity alone. I mean roughly 1 in 27 trillion families would be expected to fall into this range 😋😉😇

[@thegettokidZz]

Just for comparison here are some other unlikely things that would have the same odds as 3 members in the same family having iqs ranging from 160-170 (1 in 27 trillion) : 1. Winning the Lottery: With odds of 1 in 300 million, you’d have to win the lottery approximately 90 times in a row. 2. Struck by Lightning: With odds of 1 in 1.2 million, you’d have to be struck by lightning approximately 22,500 times in a row. 3. Hole-in-one in Golf: With odds of 1 in 12,500, an amateur golfer would need to score a hole-in-one approximately 2,160,000 times in a row. 4. Finding a Four-Leaf Clover: With odds of 1 in 5,000, you’d need to find a four-leaf clover approximately 5,400,000 times in a row. 5. Birthdays: With odds of 1 in 50 for three people in a group of 23 having the same birthday, this would need to occur approximately 540,000,000 times in a row. To say that you’re lying is a statistical certainty.

[@KamranDil-j1o]

I believe you! I really do! Oh, no wait...I don't.

[@kathrynleffin1016]

I don't think I've ever had an IQ test, but IQ seems important to some people anyway. I just try to be a good person, be kind and helpful to others.

[@aolvaar8792]

There was an opening for 20 people in a 48-month Apprenticeship program, Power Station Electrician. TESTING was involved to fill seats, $80K/yr during Class, $120K/yr upon graduation. (~$150K/yr after 5 years) 19/20 had engineering degrees.

[@ericp6496]

If you went to public school you had multiple.

[@Allicatxo13]

I always thought it was rare that people with high IQs were actually successful. We also tend to have a lot of mental health issues and a general bad work ethic. If I really love something I will work hard at it, but school was difficult for me because I lost interest in a lot of classes. I was bored and I stopped going or handing in assignments. I would show up and ace a test, but I didn't want to do pointless homework or write boring papers. Ironically I am really great at writing when forced to do it, but I legitimately hate it. I majored in math but could never finish my degree because I would just fail the boring classes that are required to graduate.. I excelled at accelerated summer human anatomy, calculus, advanced math and calculus-based physics classes, but would struggle with something as simple as a western civ class.. I also had a few teachers resent that I seemed to already know all the answers in a required class as if I took it just to show off! Trust me, I do not WANT to be here either.

[@ramongutierrez-gq4cq]

Understanding your surroundings and people around you on a day to day basis is true intelligence, picking up on small details and vibes, every time you interact with an individual or situation, and you understand it to there perspective and not yours, not opposing it but embracing it.

[@malibudolphin3109]

That's called common sense. Hence the saying he is book smart but has no common sense .

[@billfarley9167]

It's called, losing your ego.

[@ismaelmoe7407]

I registered 143 IQ at Mensa test and 138 on other tests. I don’t have much social skill and can’t multitask. But I can focus beyond belief on a single thing! I quit college and went through depression for 3 years. but I thought myself 3 languages and can easily memorize a 2 hours speech. Having been doing well in life honestly I believe a High IQ is absolutely nothing without adequate social skills and educational background😔 it’s more a handicap at time specially when you live around uneducated peers. Pray for me I’m doing better and going back to college. Baby steps

[@ismaelmoe7407]

@@IndiePopDaily I totally understand your struggles and It’s absolutely vital that you find a supportive and more accepting community. Everyone believes this to be a gift and on today scale a 140 with the right focus and support system will benefit you greatly. Take care of yourself, your mental wellbeing. Are you doing okay now?

[@ismaelmoe7407]

@@IndiePopDaily oh wow 😯 so you can’t remember recent events ? I’ve searched it and it seems pretty serious

[@emma-hs9uf]

I think it can be a gift or a curse depending on how society around uses high IQ people. If the society around you is structured in a way that facilitates the use of your intelligence such as a career where you are with like-minded individuals or where your career challenges you intellectually enough to keep you interested and financially secure. Or if society around you is intent on electing low IQ individuals in positions of power where higher IQ people are forced to waste their intellectual resources on minimally mentally stimulating careers and eventually falling into depression. Etc. I always remember that short/TikTok of an old British man ranting about the price different of a water bottle in various locations, such as a grocery store vs at an airport and ends by saying, if you don’t feel you are living up to your fullest potential maybe you need to move to a different location where your skill set might be highly sought after. Not every location is seeking intelligence as a resource believe it or not. Some just want meat head subordinates.

[@Kolemjen]

​@@emma-hs9ufYes, it's totally true that intelligence isn't valued in some places or societies. I am at least medium smart person, but not genius (I have higher university education in STEM field) and I've visited some places, where locals were accusing me of being "too unrelaxed persona". I've been told that my head is "full with explosives". I've been told to be more "chill". Erm, like, in situations, where I put a seat belt in car, while they thought that it's completely unnecessary. I've been looking for life vests for our boat trip, unlike everybody else. And I've also refused to take too much alcohol. I got to a point of arguing. Those folks said to me "chill, relax, enjoy life, don't think too much etc.". Their understanding about life is that you sort of drift on it. Their paradigm is that enjoying life is the pinnacle of living. I, however, can't unnotice their cognitive dissonance. They are poor, many suffer from diseases and/or addictions. While I accept possibility that it is something to do with the level of IQ, I also think that their way of living is also coping with their collective trauma. They sort of try to normalize their suffering. And are afraid to do something better, because it's outside their comfort zone. They don't want to go above their lifestyle, because otherwise they'd be forced to admit how badly they've been situated in life. And that hurts.

[@rustywrench500]

​@@ismaelmoe7407don't worry bro second times the charm.

[@robmangeri777]

A few thoughts on the relationship between industriousness and IQ: I test very highly in terms of IQ but I enjoy interviewing millionaires at my work place. One term that stood out to me was “the paralysis of analysis” which was offered as an explanation for smart people failing by a millionaire who had a background as a gym teacher. He claimed to have average intelligence but he explained that he was very adept at making decisions, even wrong decisions, recalibrating, and moving on. He said that he watched many more intelligent people than him delay important decisions because they were unable to commit to a single simple pathway for moving forward where he did not have that problem. I think this is a useful way to look at why the correlation cannot be one to one between industry and IQ. If he is also asking what it is about industriousness that lends towards good planning skills regardless of the mental agility of the person involved my assumption is that the average mind has ample capacity for EFFECTIVE planning. Perfect planning ability is probably not necessary in order to achieve relatively high level industry just like high intelligence is not necessary to compete at a high level in athletics. Those are some of my thoughts, hopefully they make sense :)

[@robmangeri777]

@@driatrogenesis lol, thanks a lot! What are your thoughts?

[@robmangeri777]

@@driatrogenesis you sound like a concrete thinker in this statement. You should re-read what I wrote as a response to a challenge. He mentioned that research showed conflicting results regarding planning ability and IQ and he considered the issue to be unresolved. My statement largely agreed with you also so I don’t understand your condescension.

[@robmangeri777]

@@driatrogenesis interesting comparison. I think the real shame in the Edison/Tesla battle is that money controlled the research in the end. We have this problem today. What brilliant thoughts have been sacrificed on the alter of settled science and political acceptability? Anyway, nice to meet you too. What is your particular area of expertise if I may ask, and what concept do you wish more people understood?

[@chrismyers9951]

Having high IQ during the covid insanity was a gift and a curse.

[@mkf628]

hope u wore your mask and complied like a good little sheep