TheCinemassacreTruth Craziness | Red Cow Arcade Clip

We discuss TheCinemassacreTruth Subreddit, which is a community of disgruntled AVGN fans who observe the declining quality and lack of commitment of James Rolfe.

[@miker.9138]

The funniest thing I learned while perusing the Cinemassacre Truth was that James genuinely believes he talked with Steven Spielberg on AOL. Oh, and the duck walk thing.

[@revivedfears]

Like back in the 90's when he was a kid or what?

[@miker.9138]

@@revivedfears There was a James and Mike Monday where James tells Mike about the time he talked to Steven Spielberg. Back in the 90s, he saw someone in a chat room or something with the screen name "Steven Spielberg", so he messaged them asking if they were the real Steven Spielberg, and they said yes. So he thinks it was really Spielberg.

[@swampshack1018]

@@miker.9138 if this is true, that’s just really sad

[@Unquestionable]

@@swampshack1018 I mean it was a two second comment and James clearly knows it's unlikely, said it in a "wouldn't that be cool" kind of way.

[@sikkableeat5614]

@@miker.9138 I think it was actually Steven Geelberg

[@zachrywd]

2:25 That is so relatable to me. For the longest time I would put a playlist on of the AVGN series and just slowly drift off to sleep. I went back recently and tried to reassembly that playlist from the YT channel, but even the fact that James or Screenwave or who ever has gone back and reuploaded all the videos and practically scrubbed all of Mikes title cards was such a put off that I abandoned it all together. I think I'm mourning Cinemassacre.

[@whoopsydoodle5933]

Hearing somebody say "slobs" in real life is hilarious.

[@Sorrowablaze]

I've been thinking of them as "the slobs" so long, kinda forget it's derogatory. I mean, it's self evident...look at em. Slobs. Fits just right

[@struttux5156]

@@Sorrowablaze Pretty sure they call themselves this off screen.

[@kwc0435]

​@Struttux justin has on this exact subreddit in fact

[@daspooperidunncurr8379]

Damn, leaving Reddit to visit KZbin is the same as real life? Ok, superman, lolol ok l

[@BrownElectrons]

No time to watch this movie! Tis 5:40 I need to move through reality, I’ll meet you by the brown bricks. Later HIYAH

[@jonyoungmusic]

When you have quick success in something, in some cases it's almost a mistake, luck, etc. I can relate to James since I was a weird kid making rap songs in my bedroom in the 90s before it was commonplace and I happened to have some viral success in the early years of Myspace with a few songs that turned out somewhat decent. There immediately became an expectation that I would continue to release music, do shows, get a record deal, etc. While I attempted to "keep it going," it never quite matched that 1-2 year viral moment. Probably because I'm even more of an introvert than James. Socially awkward, anxiety disorder, you name it lol. 15+ years later I still get DM's & comments asking when my next album is coming, when will I "blow up", etc. and it definitely starts to wear on you. A constant reminder of what could have been. For James, AVGN was his viral moment (that lasted far longer than most) but it appears that it was meant more as a stepping stone for him to become a mainstream filmmaker which didn't pan out like he hoped. So now he must toil away on his channel doing what he can to "keep it going." For me, I got a normal office job 10 years ago so I no longer had to continue stringing fans along. I do still release stuff once in a while but purely for fun. I don't have to sit on social media pumping out content attempting to market myself since I have a steady income. I still make money from streaming but it's purely off of old fans that still listen to my old material from time to time. I suppose that's what AVGN's fans are hoping for at this point. Make your royalties from your early stuff that everyone liked and essentially retire from making half hearted content.

[@MangaMattReviews]

Maybe it's like the "plot" in RLM's ""Half in the Bag" where instead of Jay and Mike convincing Mr. Plinkett that they're fixing his VCR and that it's real hard and complicated, it's the slobs convincing Bimmy that all these technical problems are over his head and he needs them to handle things.

[@locobandito7389]

Mike's girlfriend Erin makes the best Mac and Cheese, she uses two packets of cheese. Pro tip. Also if Mike sees this he's definitely going to make a Big Mac Turkey for Thanksgiving.

[@RedCowEntertainment]

You need to know how much we adore your vs. Time videos.

[@DrunkenMonk]

Thank you for your videos. Our society is better with your contributions. So will Mike make that turkey, even dealing with that grocery store bullshit?

[@jstape740]

Is this Mike

[@locobandito7389]

@@jstape740 Yes

[@zachary_attackery]

what happened to that other blonde chick with the huge cans?

[@jackmakackov7077]

This is a simple situation. James hates the nerd because the nerd movie ruined his chance of becoming a legit filmmaker. Now he is expected to continue the biggest failure of his life. That sounds awful to me.

[@togil1151]

Probably kinda true, but he shouldn't be dissatisfied at all. He has millions of fans on KZbin and makes a schid-ton of money from this. He also has a wife and 2 kids. So what is there to complain about. But seems like he's kinda back on track now.

[@JamesJohnson-tr1gu]

@@togil1151 yeah this year, all the content feels like it's done by James, compared to the last few seasons feeling like Silverman was writing stuff he thought the nerd would say

[@HighFalutinTootin]

It didn't ruin his chances to be a filmmaker it was a valuable lesson that he learned and he just needs to recharge and refocus right now it seems that he's focused on his band

[@JonasC22]

@@HighFalutinTootin Oh yea, Rex Viper, that music saved my life.

[@JohnnyFarang]

Yeah making millions of dollars and still being famous is a hell I hope I never experience. 😂

[@knobbsalad1840]

I'd imagine that James is sick of doing AVGN- But money.

[@taffysaur]

The recent Fear & Loathing Episode was one of the best he’s ever done.

[@Gvvm15]

That’s exactly what it is

[@locobandito7389]

@@taffysaur lol

[@ptrap]

@@taffysaur meh it wasn’t anything too special tbh, I don’t get why people are saying it’s one of his best videos? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@cardenasr.2898]

Gotta pay muh bills

[@GamePlayMetal]

Recommended video: "How does Red Cow find the time to make so much content" KZbin knows!

[@evolutioninexistence]

I’m glad I found you guys. I’m in awe of James’ complete lack of awareness and concise decision making in regards to his ‘brand’. Yes, the AVGN movie broke him (due to his poor decision making)-but for him to completely shut down creatively and put his creation in other people’s hands is baffling to me. Keep up the great content!

[@TheMindIlluminated]

James strikes me as someone completely stuck in the past, with little interest in anything that exists outside of his nostalgia glasses. He’s out of touch with technology because he never left the past behind, for example. He doesn’t have passion for film like he used to I think partially because he doesn’t care about newer films, only to occasionally be critical of them. It’s all nostalgia for him.

[@walkispacheco88]

Fine by me hehe.

[@HowardMoon56]

Yes, and that's awesome.

[@dogma9609]

, so what?

[@reeyees50]

He gonna take you back 2 da past

[@mmoarchives2542]

or just knows what his fans likes

[@MDK22420]

I actually liked the simpler episodes. I'm fine with limited angles/production, the issue for me is the writing and delivery, it sounds forced and disconnected, which can be tolerated if the jokes are decent, and if the jokes suck, good delivery can save that, but when both are off, I watch the video like James, disconnected, I turn it on, and next thing I know it's over, and I realize I wasn't even paying attention, nothing drew me in, completely Insignificant.

[@mmoarchives2542]

you do realize he has never changed the way he makes videos right? only thing that has changed is him having sponsors, and him advertising his physical store he owns, nothing else has changed except you yourself, you're older now, you're merely just bored from his 20 years of content

[@Bolt892]

@@mmoarchives2542 You can't be serious

[@Jayce_Alexander]

@@mmoarchives2542 Good one. You ought to make videos yourself. You're funny!

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@mmoarchives2542 Why do you people keep convincing yourselves that this garbage is still funny lol

[@mmoarchives2542]

@@BananaPhoPhilly why do you care? why do you judge other's people's taste of youtube videos?

[@libertines24]

Lmao how did I never hear of this subreddit? Just spent a hour reading some of the threads. So much fun

[@TreasureHunterLocke]

welcome aboard. HIYAH!

[@alexdelarge703]

You're pretty damn shallow.

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@alexdelarge703 lol

[@OldBuford]

HIYAH!

[@vapordreams983]

@@alexdelarge703 boo hoo

[@legendarylia9954]

I love Building brown bricks in minecraft, its my favorite thing to do

[@locobandito7389]

I also like to build brown bricks in Minecrap! It's the most fun you can possibly have!

[@terryindachat7296]

Come on folks, you know James lost his passion for AVGN when his movie flopped.. He never wanted to be the nerd character full time.. he wanted to a Hollywood director.. he enjoyed the fame he got from the character but his true passion is band n directing movies 🎬

[@GiaKhanham]

He should've cancelled the show years ago tbh

[@Grochlink]

I've just been catching up with this. The whole time I thought James was a single father. He has a wife!? I assumed he had to cook and clean and watch 2 kids. Holy fuck.

[@dogma9609]

not really sure how "holy fuck" is really a term that should describe some guy( whom u never met) and how he conducts his personal life that has nothing to do w you

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Holy fuck is right

[@Twi66e]

Holy fuck

[@wilddog9]

@@dogma9609 Because he says he has no free time to do anything, including his job But he has a partner that can help with the kids while he does....his job...?

[@dogma9609]

@@wilddog9 , again...what does the fact that James free time( if he has some or none at all) have to do w you personally? u r literally butthurt over a TOTAL STRANGER and how he conducts his time. please explain why

[@rolandkatsuragi]

I remember in an update video James did years ago, he said even if he was only producing content once a year he'd be fine with that, as long as it met his standard of quality. Too bad that didn't last too long.

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Ummm.. So what about the recent Fear & Loathing video? Are you blind? That's some of his best, quality work to date! 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@R3TR0R4V3 It feels like a modern Nostalgia Critic video, and that isn't supposed to be a compliment.

[@InsaneCopePosse]

He'd make no money

[@kutulukutu]

Go easy guys, I don't think he's ever been sponsored by Skill Share

[@mmoarchives2542]

yeah, he gets sponsored by a chinese owned game called hero legends

[@Weird_VHS]

James has been made house husband by his wife. She allows him to make his "silly webcam videos" when he's done with the chores and babysitting. If he's not done by 5:40, she beats him.

[@BrendanSlob]

How dare you 2 question the greatest film curator in modern film making history! James would make more movies but he has no time,his kids.

[@Jonqen]

Muh kids

[@vapordreams983]

All these fanboys in the comments defending criticism from their lord and savior Jamesy.

[@nootnik]

It might not have occurred to anyone, but perhaps James just no longer feels any kind of genuine inspiration or has the will to create anything yet his success has surrounded him with people who depend on his continued success or the success of his brand? The one good thing about failure is that it is so easy to walk away from. Success demands a repeated success lest you disappoint your audience. I do not envy anyone dealing with that kind of situation.

[@michaelclarke4009]

yeah. it very much is this. james from practically the start worked with mike for the creative part. except for his initial random rant about castlevania it has never been him alone creatively. so these guys claiming that he should now take it on alone is ridiculous. also, james has two young kids. just assuming one person can handle them at the most difficult ages just suggests these hosts are someone misogynists. his team is great. they arent just "fat slobs". each one that appears on camera have independently generated fans. unlike these two losers, they are actually endearing people. tonys currently averaging 1000 live viewers with his uploads. mike averages 700 live viewers to just watch him play videogames. these two douches will never have any success except when they are trashing people more deserving of praise.

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@michaelclarke4009 Lol. Nobody who's been a fan of Cinemassacre for a long time loves the stuff with the slobs. I don't get how people who weren't fans at the time could really like them either. They were alright when all they handled was the production, but right when they started writing James' scripts and getting on camera with him, that's when I was out.

[@ptrap]

@@michaelclarke4009 TL;DR 🪵

[@-Zakhiel-]

@@michaelclarke4009 I know your comment is 4 months old... but dude... " these hosts are someone(sic) misogynists"? James wife *doesn't have a job* ! She relies on James to bring the money. She should assume most of the work regarding their children. That's not that complicated. But keep being delusional about James life...

[@raycerx87]

I wanted to like this video, but there are 540 likes and I don't want to mess this up

[@cubeincubes]

James sold Cinemassacre 7 years ago, its OVER

[@sweeney1323]

Dang, so many angry jamesy fanboys brigading

[@ジュリアン-v5t]

All the seething comments are even funnier to read now given the recent revelations on the cinemassacre channel

[@davidnonsuch4981]

The funny thing is that one of the jobs of "the slobs" is to manage his community. They didnt do a very good job there, now did they?

[@sleevelessace]

now whenever i say "yeah" i say "Yeeeaaah" and make the james rolfe face LOL EDIT: i lost all my friends, my family and my job after 5 days of that

[@kisubags437]

Idk, watching this vid out of curiosity over thecinnamassacre stuff but found these dudes pretty weak. Came off more like dudes who wished they were him giving shitty opinions.

[@EZ-vm1up]

Muh shitty opinions

[@KramSacul]

Okay, James.

[@-Zakhiel-]

Cope.

[@billsimms2511]

They most definitely come off as envious of James

[@teen_laqueefa]

They seem sincere, funny

[@keithoneil9894]

I used to like Cinemassacre, but holy crap did it go downhill in the past few years. The Video Rental Reviews were like discount Half In the Bag episodes, and the Rex Viper videos gave me secondhand embarrassment.

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

i cant wait for the day when screenwave buys Half in the Bag and starts writing those episodes

[@KramSacul]

237 people are in denial and/or work for Screenwave.

[@egregiousphilbin2498]

I watched some old AVGN videos for the first time in a long time recently, and it made me want to visit the subreddit, which I had never done before. That led to me stumbling upon r/TheCinemassacreTruth and reading a lot of posts/comments about "muh kids" and "5:40" as well as complaints about the decline in quality in Cinemassacre content. After I brought myself up to speed on what everyone was referencing (Red Cow Arcade was helpful in this), I was kind of in disbelief to learn there is an entire community dedicated to hating a youtuber who was only really relevant over a decade ago. I get that the criticisms are directed toward the new, phoning-it-in stuff, but to me, it's like having a huge subreddit dedicated to pointing out that AC/DC's new music sucks. Like, of course it does. What more needs to be said and why the fuck are you still listening to ti? I can only guess that James has somewhat moved on past the AVGN days and just wants to make some easy money from it, and maybe some of his fans still care about it more than he does and are desperate for it to return to its glory days. It definitely sucks to see good projects fizzle out so slowly and miserably, but if your inability to accept that a series you used to love isn't good after 15 years causes you to obsessively overanalyze the creator's marriage, family matters, and friendships, you should probably ask yourself if the decline of AVGN is consequential enough to justify these unhealthy habits. The answer should definitely be "no." I know there's some kind of plagiarism issue, but at this point I can't really be bothered to go down the rabbit hole again. Plagiarism is a bigger problem, but the bulk of the complaints about James seem to be from viewers who are jealous that James gives more attention to his wife and kids than to his viewers and his creative projects.

[@billsimms2511]

Nice post and I agree. Tonight is the first time I knew there were a group that actively hated James. Sure, his show is not what it was but I find it incredibly sad and toxic that adults group up and get online to trash all aspects of the guys personal life. Jesus Christ the internet can be very toxic and many of these guys need to go outside more often ..

[@Jeremo-FD]

This comment is too long. I'd read it, but I just don't have the time.

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

Honestly im just in it because some of the memes are actually really funny. Some things feel like they go too far but other than that i like the funny memes.

[@dogma9609]

@@Jeremo-FD , u dont have 4 minutes?

[@Jeremo-FD]

@@dogma9609 I would have 4 minutes, but there's just not enough time

[@lord_straxus]

these dudes have a perfect read on the truth sub reddit culture.

[@blacksabbath4252]

James just wants to do as little as possible and he should have just bluntly say that. Just say I did years of hard work and I want to enjoy the fruits of my labor, done

[@SofaPop.]

As a truther, if he did this, I’d genuinely have some respect for him.

[@MPOMusic88]

James always says he goes out of his way to "avoid the drama" but when he's the face of his company and brand and there's an issue it just comes off like he hides under his desk and waits for the noise to stop. Avoiding unnecessary drama is nice and all, but when you're in his position it's weak to just pass the buck to some fat guy that works for Ryan's company that no one cares about.

[@Giantshredder]

Lmao, James created the drama.

[@Nintendofan781]

@@Giantshredder in a sense he did. thats kinda why people don't really care for his content anymore. its all shady now

[@ptrap]

Avoiding unnecessary drama that won’t hurt your brand is one thing, but if your brand is in trouble and the drama imperatively needs to be addressed, then you gotta do it to save your brand. The thing with James is he avoids any and all forms of drama. Avoiding the ghostbusters 2016 drama was the right call for him, however what’s going on now with his brand is something that he needs to address.

[@Geekycastillo]

It’s stupid to assume to know the private dynamics of someone’s home life even if they share details of it you still can’t presume to know what’s really going on in his life that prevents him from producing more content. I don’t think any of this really helps for all we know he’s got some serious depression issues or medical issues in general going on or someone close to him does.

[@Giantshredder]

Then he should sell Cinemassacre if he wants it to progress. 90% of the viewers are there for James and AVGN. Nothing else.

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@Giantshredder nice pfp. Great album!

[@Geekycastillo]

@@Giantshredder so your solution to his life’s work when things in his personal life have become difficult is to sell it all and say fuck it cause some of his fan base are inpatient uncreative dullards? Yup that makes so much sense

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Yes it must be great that someone can just do shit work get paid lots of money work when you want because you have personal problems.

[@wakkasoblitzed7970]

It’s fascinating and depressing at the same time. James created this giant fan base and is basically shutting them out by having these untalented hacks do his bidding for him. But at the same time, James is being held hostage by these slobs and doing bidding for them.

[@azn1011]

it really does seem like James has completely given the channel over to Screenwave. they seem to run everything over there and James just comes in, reads his lines and then goes home to watch movies muted with subtitles and sleep

[@Ne-ne7qo]

Or spend time with his kids

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@Ne-ne7qo Good for him. He should bother trying to produce quality content as well. If he's tired of doing that, then he should stop. It's as simple as that.

[@billsimms2511]

@@EZ-vm1up but he needs to make money- he can’t just stop putting out content

[@SR-wm1kr]

Man i still love AVGN and James. But i find the sub reddit absolutely hilarious. Tbh i dont want avgn gone.

[@ptrap]

If only AVGN went back to its roots, even if James had to do only 3 episodes a year, I’d still prefer that over the crap that Cinemassacre is producing now with the slobs in charge. The avgn no longer seems to be James’ and all the original people like Mike that helped make it great are gone.

[@Joes_Z-Music]

@@ptrap AVGN is always at its best when it was James talking about something that was actually meaningful to him. Stuff he personally played as a kid. Mike wrote a lot of the early scripts too, and there again, you can see a that with many of the games, he had personal childhood experiences to recount, and that often made the episodes better. AVGN is more than just a history lesson, ripping apart a game, and using profanity. Those are the mechanical parts. The soul of the series at its peak was when viewers could be transported back to those days of being a kid and experiencing games that were bad without even knowing that there could be such a thing as a "bad" video game. The mechanics of an episode work best in service of that feeling, but the feeling comes across from a sense of passion. The best example of James' passion is an old review he did of the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie "Ed Wood." The way he talks about it makes you understand the feeling he gets from watching it. It transports you there, and you almost share his passion for it even if you never actually saw the movie yourself.

[@Michael-rv5ib]

Nothing like two dudes with 624 subscribers, recoding low quality videos, ragging on a dude for what appears to be his desire to be an active dad and husband.

[@parappathegamer2118]

I don't get how "lack of time" can be mocked here. The dude has children and clearly wants to be a proactive member of his family, he also has other things he wants to do outside of AVGN or just work in general. The criticism makes no sense to me

[@leoperez636]

Its embarrassing.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Everyone with kids wants to be part of their life unless you're a complete scumbag. James JOB is to entertain. Lacking passion to do it is one thing but is the total lack of caring that's the problem. James can't even fake it for an 8 min video. People have real jobs make it work. You don't even see James actually playing the game anymore. Never see him actually with the system

[@CaptainWheathin]

lol just two neckbeards, attempting to gain clout by criticizing free content on youtube LMAO. like, aren't they past the age of 30 and have responsibilities too? prolly not.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

@@CaptainWheathin right because other people can't have opinions. And it seems like they know how tech works. Unlike others

[@phantomikon]

The screen is beyond fuzzy, but we just gotta see how long James can ride this wave.

[@theunholinesswithin70]

James explaining that his family takes most of his time up would mean no parent can get anything done in this world.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Honestly, with how much of a woketard his wife is, he's probably no different than a single parent at this point.

[@GiaKhanham]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 incels trying their best not to use “woke” as an insult to whoever they hate (impossible)

[@fmdof]

ive always wondered what his wifes role is. it seems like he can only do stuff if she allows him to.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

She's a woketard. If you ask me, she's cucking him. She gaslit him into thinking it was normal so he's completely demoralized and constantly trying to convince himself that it's okay. He can't leave her because she'll take the kids and more than half his stuff. She's probably physically and emotionally abusive because she knows he'll never leave and it's basically just using him as an ATM.

[@RolandRED]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Wow.. you literally just made up a fantasy story and told it like it was real life lol

[@ItchyGoomie]

I have followed James for years. He decided long ago to share his passion and I appreciate it. When people in life make videos about you…at least you made a mark on this earth. Thanks James

[@rocioquiroz11]

You know who else made there mark in this world? Adolf..... You know what, that's just to easy.

[@erickaparicio6118]

@@rocioquiroz11 Godwin’s law

[@zachary_attackery]

i just made a mark in my underwear

[@itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562]

@@rocioquiroz11 ur just jelly u can't humblebrag about changing the diaper of the world order. your despot envy shines throu

[@Dog-999i]

@@rocioquiroz11 James didn’t kill anybody though (besides Bugs Bunny).

[@SuperZombieBros]

Most of us on the sub don’t really hate James. There was a poll recently with these four options. -I like James and his current content -I like James but don’t like his current content -I don’t like James but like his current content -I don’t like James or his current content From what I remember, an decent majority said that they still (at least somewhat) like James. We just like to make fun of him due to his seeming lack of self awareness, and time.

[@itsnouse-yourswillbeastill2562]

suuuuuuuure, just blame it on the loud vocal minority as usual. sifted throu the sub & comments and your poll claim sure as hell didn't reflect reality.

[@ogjdavis8425]

when you de-noiser on audition it will affect the overall sound fidelty

[@XCHADHIGGINSX]

I think James might have a bigger ego than we all think. People have been worshipping this guy since he was young man. Also, I think there are certain technical aspects that he won't relinquish control of to the slobs. Maybe he feels that his workflow is so quirky that no one else can do it? And maybe he feels that the quirky technical stuff is part of the charm of the channel? But if he doesn't have any more creative ideas in the tank, then that is the part is that he's willing to get help on? I am uncertain of these ideas so that's why I'm asking instead of stating.

[@seajames1690]

Lol the dislikes

[@TheArnold1234567890]

What dislikes

[@Northrendish]

I love you guys, I'm sad you don't have more subs

[@dillonmacpherson3350]

What does he actually do that takes up so much time? He doesn't even learn his scripts anymore. He doesn't play the games, Screenwave does the lions share of writing, he has one set with a single camera.

[@timmer919hep]

he has kids and a family

[@R3TR0R4V3]

@@timmer919hep Ding Ding Ding! Exactly. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Are they that fucking dense? Guess so.. 😑

[@agoldenage9918]

@@R3TR0R4V3 By your logic everyone with a family can't have a job anymore.

[@R3TR0R4V3]

@@agoldenage9918 say what? 😅 I have absolutely no idea how you could've came to that conclusion, but sorry, you're way off.

[@vapordreams983]

Excuses

[@BilltheFifth]

I think the problem is that James's wife requires him to do just as much child care as her. I think James is just an agreeable guy and his wife bosses him around. Also, James really needs to have a job where he physically GOES to work. I think because he's filming in his garage, his wife always has a leash on him.

[@opaljk4835]

Is that something we know for a fact?

[@BilltheFifth]

@@opaljk4835 Hell ya we do!

[@opaljk4835]

@@BilltheFifth idk, it seems like he wants to do this stuff, as opposed to him being forced to by his wife

[@DavidSGrop]

source?

[@juanarkantos]

Why are you people talking about this.

[@weirdphax5406]

muh kids

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

“The Slobs!” Hahaha!

[@weirdphax5406]

James always complains about time bc he's a simp for his wife.... he's like Gary from the last American virgin

[@GiaKhanham]

In all seriousness, he should've retired from AVGN and his career long ago to focus on his family instead of clinging onto it

[@weirdphax5406]

@@GiaKhanham true

[@bobthebuilder243]

To be fair , James has been using old tech for while now and probably can’t understand it , I don’t know

[@ProgSnob14]

Been a Truther for a long time but just subbed to your channel. Great stuff

[@Dog-999i]

A truther? So corny! Get a hobby!

[@Jeremo-FD]

@@Dog-999i are you obsessed with this or something? You've made several ridiculous comments on different videos of this topic within just a few minutes.

[@SofaPop.]

@@Jeremo-FD I guess @Dog should…. Get a hobby

[@matthew6300]

@@Jeremo-FDnot as obsessed as these guys are with James Rolfe

[@alan2514]

Bold words from a 650 subs chanel, i dont care at all about james as a person but i find funny how ( 5:50 ) this dudes wich audio and camera quality is so bad trying to teach this man how to make videos, someone who has been making this absolute succesful show for what?...15 years?

[@alexdelarge703]

Exactly. On another video, the same guy says "we're not successful, but we're successful for our own purposes" in the weakest way to justify the fact they haven't amounted to anything in the filmmaking world.

[@vapordreams983]

@@alexdelarge703 As if James has amounted much in the "film"making world besides a shitty indie movie.

[@EZ-vm1up]

Subtract 10 seconds from that timestamp and you've got gold!

[@video.treasures]

@@vapordreams983 yeah his whole youtube career doesn’t count or anything...

[@locobandito7389]

Bold words coming from a 41 subs channel.

[@elwiwi8098]

I truly feel bad for anyone who garners massive popularity on the internet. How could anybody live when you have hundreds of thousands of sad jerk offs picking apart everything you do.

[@mmoarchives2542]

or feminists trying to tear him apart, i knew they target him soon enough, they really are trying to push men off the internet so feminists can tke over the web

[@ryanjacobson2508]

James chose to go down that road. That's on him.

[@KingEurope1]

Bring me back to 2013 where the AVGN film was cool and based

[@Djentlemanthall]

06-2012

[@payphone86]

Can anyone tell me what the origin of the James pic in the thumbnail is? I’ve poked around the subreddit and can’t find much. The various implications are hilarious.

[@JobberJim]

James and Mike Monday’s Mega Man X @ 20:51

[@liamboyle7369]

Lives near Philly, there’s super high speed everywhere

[@JamesJohnson-tr1gu]

The mario maker videos where he's playing terrible mario maker levels his kids made was terrible too lol

[@Faceplay2]

I’m saying this as a professional filmmaker myself who does far more complicated videos than James Rolfe does I have no idea what he’s up about saying he doesn’t have time to do things unless he just completely sucks at making movies… I work full-time as a film Director and producer but I’m not sitting my ass at home as I do my personal projects I’m working for television traveling creating documentaries and I’m gone most the time but I still have enough time to kick out a handful of high-quality short films a year that win awards over and over again at the festival circuit. Even when I was directing for the documentary series inside the mind of a serial killer I still had enough time to put together a feature film that I directed later in that same year. And unlike James who got to do an easy fundraiser and post something online I had to also be a salesman and secure finances by proper investors dealing with lawyers contract agreements negotiations and distribution deals for post production. I grew up watching AVGN and I never went to film school but I still surpassed his film knowledge and skills by the time that I was a 19 year old barely out of high school. Is excuses are nothing more than laziness and being crappy out working in Film there’s no way it takes that long to organize such a basic online video contact.

[@kennymetz187]

So why is your KZbin channel completely empty? Where's all your content, how hard is it to upload all of your supposed content?

[@cgm4379]

No time for de-noiser.

[@emobassist]

It seems they gave up on the podcast

[@mmoarchives2542]

that's because it's too cringe and fake

[@neoturfmasterMVS]

He didn't have time.

[@frankstrasser6108]

Here’s what I see: James knows his problems are easily fixable he just makes excuses to shut people up he is out of touch with reality which happens to celebrities when they get huge and don’t have to live the hardships of normal people they can no longer see everyone else struggles just as hard or harder than he does

[@recreant359]

This is what happens when everyone tells us special needs guy he can be just like anybody else

[@Dog-999i]

@@recreant359 This sentence makes you sound like a special needs guy.

[@RetrofIex]

Has James ever made a response even once in his KZbin Comment Section? I’m almost sure it has never happened

[@RedCowArcade]

Definitely seems unlikely.

[@brahms0624]

These guys are the funniest people they know.

[@Mike-ks6qu]

Seriously lol. They laugh at everything they say to each other like children. Tee hee we don't use the internet the whole time "hahhahahaha omg so funny". I'm just sitting here like....ummm OK. 🧐

[@8Bitorbust]

Best comment on this video.

[@davidlopez2276]

Yep, the smugness the permeates through their pores is nauseating. They take such delicious glee in shitting on a guy that’s done more than they can ever dream to accomplish.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Wasn't this video taken down for a while?

[@RedCowArcade]

Yeah, I privatized it to let the vitriol cool down a bit and now have unprivated it again.

[@GreatImpressionofaHotDog]

Sounds like somebody’s wrasslin’ with some noise gaiters.

[@flip5729]

Thank you, guys, for your insightful and interesting content. 😊

[@flip5729]

Thank you. I'm sorry to ask. I don't know. Is this some type of autoreply

[@RedCowArcade]

@flip5729 no, I liked your comment.

[@flip5729]

@RedCowArcade thank you, guys. Top thoughts. Unfolds a different world for me. Have watched pat punk ass episodes. Will check your history more.

[@wickedlee664]

You guys are surprised that the guy who’s content is based on old tech uses old tech? He actually IS what he says he is. Wow.

[@tola6327]

Except he doesn't like video games at all and the last time he played them was on James and Mike Monday before he quit because he hated it so much.

[@EZ-vm1up]

It isn't professional at all. It just shows how little he cares anymore.

[@Derek_Gamble]

Oh cool, KZbin drama. I'll remember not to watch anything from this channel in the future.

[@sweeney1323]

How's that ground in your head?

[@Chicomite]

If Justin Silverman had anything to do with Paperboy 3: The Hard Way, then he has a little creative talent, that video is one of my favorite KZbin videos of all time, so good. It was on his old channel Silvermania, but I don't know to what extent Justin was involved. That whole channel was like a fever dream, you never knew when videos came out, what a video would be, whether the creators of the channel hated their fans/video games or loved them, it was a weird channel. Justin is a weird guy, but it was like spiteful adult swim weird. The Paperboy 3 video is an anomaly, it was just a really good short film that I wish was longer.

[@taffysaur]

The Fear & Loathing Episode was also excellent.

[@russellscott1064]

The wife obviously has him whipped doing errands.

[@audreyromerobaybay]

Agreed. That's what happens when you marry the girl you lose your virginity to.

[@A2Z83]

if only james could put the ammount of effort and commitment into his channel as you have. This is true high quality content. You could use a higher definition though I cant quite count every nosehair. James has always worked with his friends and he doesnt care what people have to say about his friends or their personal lives. Hes not a product of this age of the internet. He doesnt understand the sense of entitlement that the fans show trying to have a say in his business.

[@theunassumnglocalguy5441]

I like Avgn, but how the hell does he figure he doesn't have to devote time to his source of income?

[@neoturfmasterMVS]

He can't figure it out, has no time to think about it. Do you want him to suffer?

[@shattaredentertainment4782]

@@neoturfmasterMVS yes

[@neoturfmasterMVS]

@@shattaredentertainment4782

[@holdingpattern245]

It's weird isn't it, it almost sounds like he said that he will continue doing AVGN but he can't put any effort into it anymore.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Woketard wife, that's why.

[@ismolaitela6666]

Big Ryan fan here!

[@RedCowEntertainment]

btw

[@ahm42]

HIYAH!

[@russianthotbot6997]

Gross

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

The James simps are brigading this video lol

[@underwaterlevelz1947]

Good job guys, your show is really funny. Don't forget another bizarre issue that doesn't get mentioned much, which is ScreenWave not meeting upload obligations. There was a "compression issue" with the Shrek episode, which resulted in it being several days late, plus a couple other weeks where they just flat-out missed putting up a weekly upload.

[@A2Z83]

That seemed like a youtube issue. I remember there was a bunch of channels having trouble on the same day Shrek was uploaded.

[@Skittlespillygog]

his name was BTNmasherDraco. the draconian thing is just life imitating poetry.

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

We’ll just listen to James & Mike when they’re just shooting the shit. They don’t seem to keen on evolving with contemporary technology.

[@RalphNaderInc]

I don't blame him for not wanting to engage with his fans that much. I would too.

[@R3TR0R4V3]

Yeah, really.. Especially when there's videos like this. Goddamn.. these types of videos and all the selfish, negative, bullshit comments would make me want to steer clear too!

[@EZ-vm1up]

A lot of his fans do blindly suck him off. The dude didn't pay his friends that contributed heavily to his content, and the he blames his own laziness for the horrible quality of his current content.

[@parappathegamer2118]

I don't understand most of the complaints in this video tbh, it's just you guys cracking up most of the video lmfao

[@StuPiasshole]

"tbh"??????? Are you usually dishonest???????? And can you not type the entire words????????????????????????

[@parappathegamer2118]

@@StuPiasshole That's a lot of question marks

[@locobandito7389]

@@StuPiasshole Got em

[@wickedlee664]

James may be a little incomprehensible but I think that speaks to the difference between a visionary and a Jonny come lately. There is obviously something genuine about the DIY aspects of James’ work. Many try to appropriate the aesthetics of DIY but James is obviously the real deal. That can often come with some obsessive and Luddite characteristics.

[@thefatman69dude]

No. He's just an idiot. He's been doing avgn for 15 years and has made a feature length film. There's no real reason why James room is set up the way it is. It's scary dumb. I'm not even a pro and I can fix about 95% of the bullshit set up he has for his equipment.

[@justindearmond1]

you know he could just be busy with his life. I have 5 kids and would never have even close to the time to make loads of youtube content. Id suspect most complaining dont have a family and children....they are much more important than youtube. He could be like myself as well...what the fuck is a subreddit? again i dont have the time to be involved in the finer details of the internet. hell i dont even have a smart phone....no twitter, no instagram, no apps. Life is more important than the internet. Do a hard days work, put your hands in the dirt, clean your house, spend time with your family. There is more to life than giving a shit about what other people think on the internet.

[@Persun_McPersonson]

Both of the guys in the video have kids. James could make time but he's incompetent.

[@ZoraTheExplora]

These are 2 humans that are so mad and so jealous that they legit want a youtube and internet treasure to fail. You can hear it in the tone of their voice.

[@AreGeeBee]

Internet treasure? Have you seen any of his content since like...2015?

[@vapordreams983]

Fanboy moment

[@EZ-vm1up]

The fact that this has likes concerns me

[@immortaluglyfish2724]

IDK what it is, but hearing someone say the word "slobs" out loud to refer to the Screenwave crew instead of just reading it makes me bust a gut. But yeah, I really get the impression that James never learned to update his process or his tech and he just rolls with it. He has no time because he sets himself up to waste time. Edit: yeah I'm fascinated by James. I think you hit it on the head - he's deluded and has his head in the sand. I get the impression that he's very, very naive and just kind of goes along with whatever. I think the worst part of that email was that he revealed he uses a huge teleprompter that he "can't move" hence why the camera angles don't change. Explains why his delivery is so wooden and why the camera angles never change...

[@123612100]

These slobs calling other dudes slobs lol

[@leoperez636]

Lol exactly!

[@EZ-vm1up]

Now that's a butthurt comment right there

[@123612100]

@@EZ-vm1up I mean I don't have a problem them shit talking anyone but it would be like if a fat chick said, "these fat women" as an insult lol

[@EZ-vm1up]

@@123612100 We're talking about comparing them to people like Justin though. I don't think that them + the weight of the moon can weigh as much as him. He is the alpha slob.

[@123612100]

@@EZ-vm1up so you're saying these guys are beta slobs?

[@MazingerDestro]

We act like people on reddit, shit on you only when you are wrong. People there just shit on anything. James is one of the "cleanest" content creators. People called him a thief with the movie. People shitted on him for cheetahmen. People tried to cancel him for not watching fembusters. All of these accusations and the guy stayed clean. We need more people like him. What's wrong with outsourcing to fat untalented people? That the quality went down? Ok.... soooooo... is that a crime? The guy has pointed many times that he can't just "make videos". He needs inspiration and inspiration doesn't always come to him, when he needs it. He might work on 1 episode for 5 hours but spend 20 hours thinking about it. As a content creator myself, I can confirm that this is true. You can even have a script ready but lack the motivation to edit or even record it. His latest attempt on a podcast, is him trying to find a way to fill these "20 hours" with some content. Again, you cannot understand what am I saying if you make react videos or rants but if you produce actual unique content, you will get me

[@A2Z83]

The reddit is desperate because what feeds these communities is the feeling that theyre effecting someone elses life. But James isnt even playing the game. He doesnt know the game exists. This is a guy whose show would still be sitting on a shelf on vhs tapes if his friend hadnt convinced him to upload to youtube. Hes not reachable and I dont see him becoming anymore savvy late in life.

[@steveomcbigarms]

Wat if the slobs got in shape.Would that possibly increase productivity

[@SpicyMctyson]

I definitely lol'd at the wrastlin' gators mental image

[@Adrenalize-lf4qf]

I don’t normally comment. You guys are terrible - putting up a video clip just to run someone down. If you’re so awesome, go do it better than he does. But you can’t, so you won’t.

[@EZ-vm1up]

I can see why you don't normally comment. Thanks for telling us!

[@smithcorona2112]

Anyone have a link to the email they’re taking about?

[@krock90]

While I agree that the overall content quality of cinemassacre is declining rapidly after Silverman and his Screenwave gang took over and Matei left, this video does nothing to prove that with your childish, un-researched approach. I never really likes Matei but he's still a deep-rooted part of the channel. His departure isn't such a loss in my books. Silverman, while an decent content maker in his own right, is far too sarcastic to mesh properly with the genuine Rolfe. He was part of the decent Underbelly crew but that channel fizzled out. He then built up a minor nihilistic repertoire with his (and Jarrett Courtney's) Silvermania channel which atmosphere still lingers around Silverman making me take everything he says with a grain of salt. Which in turn hurts his work for Cinemassacre. The rest of the gang seem awkward and out of tune, just like Matei's friends he used to bring on the channel. Like many others have mentioned, Rolfe maybe just doesn't have his heart in it anymore. He's getting older and has a big family, too.

[@locobandito7389]

"Matei's friends he used to bring on the channel." Who do you mean?

[@krock90]

@@locobandito7389 Ryan and some other guy I can't remember.

[@locobandito7389]

@@krock90 How dare you. Ryan owns the channel/Screenwave. I'm a Big Fan of his.

[@krock90]

@@locobandito7389 I thought you were joking at first but then I googled. Lol

[@calumryan6328]

@@krock90 talk about unresearched. Everyone knows that

[@KadinNation]

lol really enjoyed this def gonna check out more stuff from you guys!

[@wickedlee664]

You guys sound like YOU would like to be James’ team. Make that happen then. This envious smug chortling is assish. Make him a proposal.

[@leoperez636]

Exactly!

[@thegreathadoken6808]

'Assish'. I never heard that. Nice werd. I think I agree, too.

[@MikeMike.]

8:37 “...I’m not mad at James. I could really give a fuck.” Records 15 minute video discussing James and uploads it to KZbin lol 😂

[@nicks4802]

Go tell the slobs you’re sad about it

[@richiewitkowski7142]

5:41 "But I dont have time to learn Adobe"