Blue - The Color Wheel Series (& CONSPIRACY 2 PREVIEW) | The Command Zone 118

[@commandcast]

WOW! What does everyone think of our Conspiracy 2 Preview Card: BURGEONING!? We can't wait to get our hands on this awesome classic!

[@finnbergbower8775]

This set is so great. I'm gonna have to binge draft this.

[@Cangaroombi]

I wanted to buy it for my Gitrog deck but was really too expensive. I'm ecstatic!

[@sancturillore]

The link for the other episodes of the Color Wheel series and the articles you mentioned aren't in the description like you said.

[@Dafins100]

Love the podcast and love that cardkingdom is sponsoring you guys! I ordered from them recently to try it out after listening to everyone in the commandzone community talk so well about them. The switch to cardkingdom has stuck and I'm so glad I know about it! Thanks guys!

[@konradwright7725]

Best Ally Support color! Make a teammate on the board, they take the aggro, you win under the radar! Gotta love those target player draws X :)

[@schilbjoel]

Great show - just being a nerd here. Tabula Rasa was a phrase coined by 17th-century philosopher John Locke. Just so happens, that LOST created a character named John Locke and that episode was about him and his 'clean slate' on the island. Happy commandzone-ing.

[@__malte]

*more nerdy stuff incoming* Well to be exact it was a term first used (as far as we know) by Aristoteles, however later it became an almost common term in certain scientific fields, such as psychology. So while the term was popularized around the time Locke lived it was first used approximately two-thousand years earlier.

[@maneatinplantguy]

I play blue with enchantments that control instead of instant or sorceries that control because instant and sorceries (at least to me) feel like one shots that arent abusable and reusable, but enchantments can be used various times.

[@700NitroXpress]

One of my favorite blue spells is Time Stop, just end the turn. Works in combat, exiles spells and abilities on the stack, gets rid of stuff that can't be countered, it can go on Elite Arcanist, you can stop someone's turn before their draw step, it's awesome.

[@SnapquesterMage]

Terminator 2 is possibly the best sequel ever.

[@pyrogodoffire66]

I raise you Aliens and Empire Strikes Back

[@bittersithis]

Empire Strikes back I agree. Aliens is awesome as well, but the original is more my taste. Depends if you like Action or Horror more

[@davethetalentlessguru759]

Agreed!

[@Felhate]

Your preview card is Burgeoning... and you got lots of plant stuff behind you? flavor win!

[@romulosarti6572]

The theme starts at 17:33

[@BrienneofDarth]

I feel the need to point out, red and blue wheel of fortune/windfall effects are not the same. Pretty much all of the blue ones recycle your hand (and often your graveyard) into your library whereas the red ones make you discard your hand. Because blue is more resourceful and exchanges their hand, red essentially throws it away for a new one. I think that makes sense.

[@twidgetron328]

Chasm skulker mentioned on The Command Zone! My #1 Pet card and I can die happy now :)

[@mtgnoob9988]

Well...I am here in August 2019. Fun to watch this now!

[@chancecox2014]

Hey guys get Craig to post a deck list for his memnarch deck. That would be awesome, great show glad y'all finished the color wheel and it was my favorite color

[@joshleekwai8895]

We'll have to have Craig back on the show at some point to do a deck tech!

[@chancecox2014]

+Josh Lee Kwai that would be awesome

[@vinceinman9666]

I love the parallels of the Simic and Izzet. Both scientific guilds but of a different kind.

[@joshuaramirez1420]

thats why I love riku. someome who was so dedicated to the study of izzet and similar that he split himself to study both

[@anonofyesterday4650]

Great podcast once again! Though I'm pretty sure at 6:34 that's not the -droid- Marchesa you're looking for. :)

[@sfmike377]

The Star Trek color was the best part laughed about Kirk!

[@mtgsculptor]

Fuck yeah, Burgeoning! That art from Titus Lunter is looking amazing!

[@natanoj16]

I have a mono-blue deck that thinks it is mono-green. Loads of Ramp and huge creatures + clone effects to those big creatures ^^

[@pariahdox7963]

My first deck was a bunch of Phantasmal creatures mixed with artifacts(wurmcoil was in my deck since day 1) and it was blue. that was my deck for so long, blue is natural to me. I like green more since it feels less like I'm running the hamster wheel but still has a bunch of synergies.

[@zza5358]

Could you guys do a series on more advanced EDH rules and interactions?

[@Kestral287]

Most of that is just general rules knowledge that only ever comes up in EDH because we run weird cards. The only really EDH-specific rule that screws with people is that putting a commander from the board to the command zone when it's destroyed is a replacement effect, so it never dies. ... Well, that and Mimic Vat versus commanders. That one is fun.

[@Bucket_Boy101]

If red is paired with another colour, they can play removal, or they can play karoo lands against Song of the Dryads.

[@mikezanin6708]

"attack the Talrand deck" :'( Glad I play Noyan Dar, lol

[@franciszekanio839]

You could rename the Leyline of anticipation to flash in lands. Was this already done?

[@davidsterner5453]

I love Waiting for Godot. Not what I expected to hear today, but I'm happy about it.

[@brynt91]

can you do a short vid on colorless?

[@ethanwiggen3567]

also,where do we send deck lists for deck doctors,i have an elf based yisan deck that i could use help on

[@jaydev267]

About Reality Shift: I usually see it more as "make that creature become something else"

[@ethanwiggen3567]

can you guys do a video on pauper commander,my friend is starting a pauper commander league and i need help deciding on a commander and unusual commons that are really good,my favorite magic color is green if that helps

[@lineshawn4819]

Ah, the best color.

[@HavocTheWendigo]

Kaya plus decree of annihilation and a huge creature equals GG most of the time. Also Oloro will have a field day with her. He really doesn't need anymore synergy lol

[@MrMe2459]

The card kingdom segways get better every week

[@pariahdox7963]

segues I think

[@MrMe2459]

yeah that seems better, i thought it was wrong but just went with it

[@pariahdox7963]

It's cool~~now you know😜

[@KilVall]

Damn, Marchesa looks really nice.

[@joshuapelletier8219]

I only play mono blue in commander. Usually I play Tefferi, Temporal Archmage. When I play that deck I never get out ramped by green decks. The green decks might have faster burst ramp at the start, but I always pass them up in mana by turn four or five. Also I love mystic confluence, but in mono blue I would take cryptic command every time. An interesting thing i have realized is in the same way ramp and card draw are the most important things in commander, denying those things to your opponents is often just as important/Powerful. I have seen so many green decks throw up there hand full of lands on the board and then they play one card that is supposed to draw them cards and when you counter it they are crippled for the rest of the game. in that same way I can also deny my opponents mana with stasis, winter orb, back to basics ect... I feel like my deck has the best of everything. I have access to the best card draw in the game. i can out ramp most green decks(I'm sure a competitive mono green or U/G deck might be able to out ramp me with the right cards) I have access to mana doublers like extraplanar lens as well as cards like high tide. I usually have the best creatures too. I have a handful of the games most powerful clone effects plus bribery and vedalken shackles. not to mention blue has access to wurmcoil and the eldarazi titans the same as any color. and then i also pretty much have access to the best control. the only things i with i could add from another color for my control package might be all the white spot removal(however rapid and pongify are surprisingly good in this category) and sweepers like terminus and supreme verdict. that being said i have learned to value instant speed "sweepers" and bounce much more highly than sorcery speed ones. when you have sorcery speed removal you have to asume people will attack you and preemptively wrath the entire board. with a cards like evacuation, cyclonic rift, aetherize ect... i can just wait until someone attacks me and then sweep the board so in the mean time my opponents are taking more damage. and i also have access to Karn, Ugin, All is dust, and nev's disk. even though black and white might have better lower costed removal than those. i have found those cards to be sufficient for all my wrathing and removal needs that i don't get in blue. One of the most powerful political strategies for blue is to develop the reputation of "if you attack me i will make sure you loose" . Even if focusing a player may cause you to lose it can help you in the long run so for example someone attacks you and you say "are sure you want to do that? If you do i will make sure you never resolve another spell again. you might be able to defeat me, but i can do so much damage to you there will be no way for you to recover." also running a butch of "aetherize" type effects makes people really paranoid about attacking you. after doing this sort of thing for a while people dont screw with you anymore.(or be your friend) One thing you didnt mention was that blue is also the combo color. Combos are often very important in edh and blue is usualy the best color at pulling combos off as well as preventing them from happening. Also even though im a cutthroat edh player, im always very kind in my non game related interaction with people. Not being a dick and being gracious when you win goes a long way in keeping the people you utterly destroy every game coming back for more :P Sorry I ranted, but this video got me thinking about all things blue!

[@kevinking7802]

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[@erikchupela7074]

card kingdom just relaunched the website this morning, the affiliate link doesn't work just so you guys know. i haven't ordered anything since the site relaunch but I'm sure the code still works just not the link

[@commandcast]

Thanks for letting us know Erik! We'll let our CardKingdom contact know and try and get it fixed ASAP.

[@erikchupela7074]

no prob guys. love the preview card too thats a perfect edh card. also you guys hit a ton of really good points about blue in commander, certainly the most powerful color in magic. most powerful card in magic overall... dare i say, Island?

[@WarsWorth]

In competitive EDH, Black is actually considered the most powerful color. Tutors are powerful. That and Ad Nauseum, Necropotence, (and maybe even Doomsday) are easily in the top 5 or 10 most powerful cards of EDH.

[@WarsWorth]

Blue is definitely a very close second though.

[@WarsWorth]

Then you built a bad deck? What do you mean if you don't have a card necessary to tutor for? Your deck should be filled with good cards to tutor for. Every tutor in your deck turns your one-ofs into X-ofs (where X is 1 + the # of tutors in your deck.) They give you what you need when you need it, whether it's a combo piece, a hate card, removal, etc. It gets you what you need when you need it. That's the most important thing in EDH, a format that is heavily random because it's 100 card singleton. Anything that can change the fact that EDH is 100 card singleton is extremely strong.

[@bv310]

My Blue deck is always Jalira, Master Polymorphist. Polymorphist creatures is a great feeling

[@Kuehnpiano]

great show.

[@ribeye10000]

I frikin love the Star Trek rant

[@THEMithrandir09]

Healing Salve is actually legal in all ethernal formats ^^

[@mingusrobert1218]

They said they were joking immediately after... It's weaksauce :^)

[@guardian_of_the_rune]

Wizards is favorite color in order is blue, green/black, red, then white is the least.

[@MajorlySpicy]

curious how you think blue can ramp. I can't think of a single blue card that does anything remotely close to ramping. it is hands-down the worst color at ramping, even more so than white, which has tithe, land tax, gift of estates, knight of the white orchid, and kor cartographer. the first few of those are mana fixing, but still way better than literally any blue card at ramping. Also, blue has numerous exile effects including Reality Shift which you mentioned, Curse of the Swine, Phyrexian Ingester, and any number of counter spells. There are probably others I can't think of. "In a vacuum Mystic Confluence is just more powerful" at 1:05:35 is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. MC and Cryptic do not compare, and 99% of the time Cryptic is indisputably better. An un-caveated counter is not comparable to a counterspell that allows them to pay taxes in the format where people have the most mana of any format ever. Especially if you're countering their wincon late game when they should have tons of mana available. Also the ability to bounce a permanent vs a creature is infinitely better, and tapping all of your opponents' creatures, not just target opponent, is game-saving.

[@jaserart]

I'm a new magic player, the person that brought me to this great game plays a lot of blue.... I hate blue. I'm making it my mission to destroy blue. Anyone have any suggestions on how to make a Mage killer deck? Thanks. Awesome channel, keep it up guys!

[@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God]

No Consecrated Sphinx and Arcanis the Omnipotent?

[@LadyLunarSatine]

Thank to the LRR crew, I now associate Memnarch with menstruation because of the word "menarche" brought up in a Talking Sim of Bioshock Infinite.

[@kyleellis9177]

236 artifacts with draw in text. so im going to say 36 are newer ones so at time of video 200 artifacts with draw. Going to be generous and say 75 are good. and going through them yeah seems like 1/6 is a good one.

[@Kestral287]

I laughed way too hard at the Izzet byplay. Maybe because I make that joke too often. D:

[@digitalscribbler68]

I can't believe you guys! "Parasitism" is misspelled on your color wheel artwork!

[@stevenvillarreal6211]

have talk about colorless cards yet

[@vinightshade6026]

When I started playing Magic, I really did NOT like Blue. I was a mono black mage from day 1 doing all kind of decks from aggro to control to affinity, all with just Black. The decks that I would Always be weak to were the ones with blue. I still play Mono Black in Commander (Love you Sidisi), but in every other format I play U/B. Damn you Blue for being so awesome.

[@grymgungus3933]

didn't even mention consecrated sphinx lol

[@bittersithis]

Yea, this is a pretty glaring omission

[@Masaru_kun]

id honestly rather hear about cards that not everyone knows about, but it is weird how they talk about cyclonic rift but not sphinx

[@charleslaleff7708]

ok. the whole slanted cards thing makes the cards almost unreadable.

[@GameTheoryOptimal]

Agreed. It's really annoying.

[@commandcast]

Thanks for the feedback! It eventually rotates around but this one was on a particularly long cycle so it takes a little longer. We'll take your notes into consideration for future episodes.

[@charleslaleff7708]

The Command Zone thanks. it was mostly a problem for the newer cards where i kinda did need to read them to know what they did.

[@TNTturtle5]

What if for the longer ones you guys just rotate them in faster, and let it sit for a while straight on, then rotate it out when you're done talking about it instead of having it reeeeeeaally slowly rotate?

[@TheJPKaram]

Love the literature reference game waiting for godo

[@joemeenie]

It's why bug is so brutal.

[@nils7943]

Im playing a non-passive Thassa deck xd

[@GrayDeath66666]

I just realized she basically phases it.

[@Rapaijas]

About red as an artifct colour: i call kai buddes wm winning deck!

[@d00dxKVLT]

Nothing draws more cards than an early game Necropotence. (yeah, technically you're not "drawing" them, but yeah come on)

[@joshleekwai8895]

Yeah true. But that triple black casting cost...

[@Kestral287]

Two Consecrated Sphinxes will draw more cards than any Necropotence! Really, usually one ConSphinx will, but two different players with Sphinxes is hilarious.

[@kyleellis9177]

ping was blue because it represented prescision

[@Kuehnpiano]

esper is my favorite

[@cymbaline4384]

Simic is the strongest combination in edh

[@Frostweaver42]

I mean of the power 9, 3 are blue so....

[@IPL4Y2PWN]

What'do you guys think of that card with the new sultai elf legendary? media.wizards.com/2016/azetllnwjpxztp2b_CN2/en_GhygaqFObK.png. Also... this legendary with a teferi's puzzle box... gross haha.

[@mickeysmagic89]

Tromokratis Voltron FTW

[@ethanwiggen3567]

and planeswalker commander

[@so8023]

"Toy Story 2 was O.K."

[@garrettkennedy7862]

wizards tribal

[@garrettkennedy7862]

is a off way to play blue

[@Kestral287]

It's absurdly strong. There are a lot of good Wizards-matter cards (Azami is the obvious) and a lot of good Wizards in general.

[@nfortin24]

Blue is almost broken.. breaks too many rules of the game

[@brettjacobson4600]

go see Day9's explanation of the color wheel. he has some interesting words on blue lol

[@niallreid7664]

Bet a lot have fours letters.

[@sirderik]

The Olympics: top of the line athletes doing literally the best competition in the world fore certain things. you do know that the Olympics is(was) a amateur event right? And the only part that is still true is in the boxing for a unknown reason.

[@chesterra]

A lot of athletes at the olympics are non professionals. They just excel in their certain countries and therefore get to compete. At the shooting competition a lot of policemen were participating and i think i remember a table tennis player who worked with kids.

[@joshleekwai8895]

Yes it was amateur. It is not any longer (aside from Boxing). I'm not sure what your point is.

[@sirderik]

Josh Lee Kwai just wanted to mention it.

[@christeal1522]

blue zombies since the dark. check out the drowned

[@laynearguello4473]

Blue: the abortion doctor of magic colors.

[@Masaru_kun]

olympics suck edh rules