Thor: Love And Thunder - It's Hot Garbage

[@lowkeyarki7091]

Disney wants us to symphatize with Wanda for losing her imaginary kids even after enslaving an entire town, Thor lost his actual family, and home world. He's the most tragic hero in the Avengers and they want us to laugh at him.

[@Dookieman1975]

It’s ok to have humor but even ragnorak and endgame had more serious moments

[@leonlopez2441]

Feminism foe you

[@chasehedges6775]

The hypocrisy/irony is strong with Disney

[@FULANODETAL]

also the asgardians are near extintion

[@deamnis]

@u know me yeah they like to imagine white alpha males don't exist

[@heraldofwar]

The best version of Thor was Infinity War, he was serious, focused and had a goal of avenging others and taking down a serious threat in Thanos! Now .... Well hes been reduced to laughing stock!

[@J1283-s1k]

And the joke mate? He actually told jokes still. Still he had humour. But it was deadpan, it was sarcastic, it was contextually appropriate. 'I bid you farewell and good luck morons' 'Notice you copied my beard?' And yet he was badass, he was a soldier of fortune, he was on a mission of revenge. Yet here he's a dopey, bumbling, stuttering, 30 IQ moron, who exhausts everyone around him (the Guardians multiple times share a look of exasperation at him, like when he goes on a tangent then smashes the temple they were supposed to protect or when he gets told off by the kids for being completely aloof and not helping, or when he falls into the New Asgard pillar and everyone looks at him in dismay). Christ this movie was an abomination.

[@Fuchsfeuer]

the last good marvel movie^^

[@Chicken_Little_Syndrome]

Amen.

[@darkseid6898]

Disgusting woke trash. Only sheeple keep on paying for Disney's leftist indoctrinating propaganda.

[@EddyA1337]

@@Fuchsfeuer This is what I always say. IW was THE PEAK of the MCU. It'll NEVER be better. Ever. Endgame was not BAD. But the fat Thor thing was lame.... they could've made him still broken and drinking his problems away and not made him a fat bumbling idiot and his character would've been better but nope, "fat big lebowski thor funny funny!", then the all girl Avenger scene, plus introducing Time Travel in to a story which TT as a plot device will 99% of the time fuck up a story.

[@SolracNexus]

don't forget that thor went from being a straightforward and serious individual to someone who tells more jokes than deadpool...

[@goonietunes5962]

Thor is a fucking clown now and anybody who tries to defend that isn't a real. This is not the Thor we should've gotten

[@MagicMan69171]

👍

[@SpScarletSpider]

That's kind of been the MCU Tony Stark effect, sadly. Characters that didn't use to be excessive quipsters (Thor, Hulk, etc.) are turned into stand-up comedians, while the characters that actually *should* be doing the quipping like Hawkeye (who is boring as hell in the MCU) or Spider-Man lose one of the things that makes them unique as characters.

[@waltercomunello121]

Deadpool himself should pop up in a future -Disney- MCU Marvel movie and just talk shit about the plot, the writing and some actors, and Disney itself, and then disappear. that would be surprising.

[@jagj2803]

At least Deadpool's jokes are funny and they make sense

[@Liquid278]

One of the most embarrassing things is that they wanted a strong and powerful woman at the front and they forgot all about Lady Sif

[@thorin1045]

they don't want strong and powerful woman, because that imply she is a woman, they want a strong and powerful man, that has vagina and the pronoun of she, but not a woman.

[@Fenixias]

This. When he received the message from Sif I thought maybe finally we get to have some real screen time for her, when before she only had like 2 lines in each movie.. but then they dropped her in a hospital and ignored her for the rest of the movie....

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

Lady Sif's only real screentime was in Agents of Shield S1E15 and S2E34.

[@dexnocturna2448]

They didn't forget about her, she's white.

[@magnuscoles5010]

@@dexnocturna2448 thats not the reason, portperson is also white

[@J.B.1982]

The whole ‘women can’t be vulnerable or weak or villains or struggle and men have to be torn down’ is beyond old already. How more people don’t see this and deem it unacceptable is beyond me. This isn’t some complicated story structure methodology we’re talking about here, it’s surface level basics.

[@shell_kickat]

Jane is literally weak in this movie.. She has cancer.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

@Giltspark so phenomenal cosmic power is vulnerability?

[@spider1o160]

Wow, everything you said was completely wrong, I mean nothing made sense!

[@gamemediafan1714]

@Giltspark that doesn't change the fact that Jane Foster somehow being worthy of Mjonir more then Thor makes absolutely no sense.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

@Cthulhu Crews what's your point? She gets to be a superhero and save the universe instead of *wither away in hospice

[@FourDozenEggs]

Marvel has a terrible habit of taking good characters and turning them into cheap joke factories over time. Thor and Hulk seem to have gotten it the worst.

[@crazyfriend50]

To be fair thor benefitted in ragnarok and it became really good but the first 2 were serious and were shit

[@RoxxonUnderRage]

Another fucktard comment from a pokemon fan..

[@jonathanathor117]

@@crazyfriend50 the 1st 1 was great, 2nd movie was forgettable

[@jeffreym.8957]

@@crazyfriend50 The first one was not serious and was great. The second one was decent - except the villian was almost as bad as Steppenwolf.

[@td9057]

DC has a habit of destroying beloved characters. Ever heard of bat woman

[@papadoc331]

The fact they wasted christian bale is absolutely CRIMINAL

[@kenny8712]

he has so little screen time...

[@princemaverik]

They didn’t deserve him bro

[@benreid4901]

Its sad because Bale did SUCH A GOOD JOB as gorr. Every scene with him was terrifying, and his backstory almost made me cry

[@carlosrivas1629]

screw you morons, they didnt waste him and screw you for not paying any attention to anything but the spectacle.

[@nozrep]

i thought the movie was hilarious. It was a comedy making fun of all thor’s and mcu movies, in my opinion. There were some boring parts too but for most part it kept me laughing at it

[@Kalhiki]

Let's also not forget Korg apparently has two dads despite previously establishing in Ragnarok that he has a mom (who has a boyfriend (that Korg hates)). Either the writers forgot continuity or Korg has a very complex family life.

[@silvercandra4275]

Not really, just takes a bisexual dad remarrying after a divorce, but I totally get what you mean... The writers just don't give a sh*t.

[@cassiefuchs3657]

I noticed that too.

[@ItsVegaSama]

@@silvercandra4275 he explained it takes 2 dudes to give birth despite saying he had a mom

[@ColinFox]

So it was a tri-marriage. Two husbands, one wife. Of course, sexually it makes way more sense the otherway. One man can impregnate two women, but two men...?

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

but you don't understand, it's only needed so that in the end taika waititi can say "his boyfriend Dwayne(The Rock)"

[@angmordagnithil7127]

I'm glad you called out the scene where Thor gets his clothes blown off while the ladies eat grapes in the background. It was all over the trailers, and every time I saw it, I could only think about the gale-5 shitstorm of outrage it would be if the genders of the characters involved were reversed.

[@Bolter024]

I miss the times when the opposite was true, we need that level of fan-service again!

[@Jay9966]

@@Bolter024 same, those were the good simple times when I can call people retarded in League because they are, instead of now when I can only call people dumb.

[@genericuser4162]

Are you equally calling out the disparaging difference between how the female costumes are cut and styled vs the men costumes?

[@noble7065]

@@genericuser4162 Are you equally calling out the disparaging number of times we see the male heroes with their top off vs the women?

[@sly9263]

@@genericuser4162 lol the female characters that prep with an elliptical machine and MAYBE diet for their roles just to show a little leg or shoulders vs the males who eat chicken and rice daily to hit upper body and core for shirtless scenes? Hemsworth put in more exercise than natalie portman, tessa thompson, jaime alexander combined- and then some.

[@JuggoJuggo]

Gor the God Butcher story line was supposed to be like a mystery horror story, Thor was supposed to be somewhat like a detective unraveling events from horrific crime scenes. Gor was supposed to be a villain that we could sympathize with, to an extent, because at the same time he is a ruthless cold blooded killer but he has valid reasons for going after the gods. They could have made this film for 1/100th of the budget and it would have been a million times better.

[@israelPoplife]

The Batgod.

[@MrDeothor]

could you tell me what was the Thor comic with Gor called?

[@daniel5913]

@@MrDeothor Gorr’s first appearance was in Thor: God of Thunder #2 (January 2013)

[@thengakola]

But then how do we add "The message"🤣

[@silverspear21]

You just made me think of a Thor movie like Logan style.

[@DonaldBlake287]

It's sad that when the Drinker tells me he's going to spoil the plot I really don't care. I know that I'm going to be far more entertained by the Drinker's 15 min breakdown than I am by that 3 hour movie.

[@yourmum69_420]

it's 2 hours

[@spiritsoldier4475]

I feel you.

[@labaguette2728]

So true

[@arch3088]

I didn't plan on ever seeing the movie anyway.

[@yes78]

It might have been a little better if it was actually 3 hours lol

[@someguy7774]

Lady Sif was Thor’s last Asgardian friend and one of his longest friends as they grew up together. Despite this, the writers decided to play her death off as a joke. A joke that mind you, might and I repeat *might* ,have worked if it were just some random warrior and not her. I mean it’s almost like the writers just completely forgot what she meant to Thor.

[@sa-x19]

She doesn't die in the film, but I agree that her injury was treated like an SNL sketch. It seems like Taika is fixated on the idea that there can be no sense of loss, urgency or real stakes since it's a "comic book story" and thus inherently colorful and silly. The few serious moments in the movie were almost immediately undercut with jokes.

[@Dull160]

and they put tony and natasha name in thors shitty tattoo

[@nexusshark]

Even Jane's death couldn't happen without a joke. I felt almost nothing during that scene. I was just tired.

[@RileyTaker]

@@nexusshark Jane's death probably would have mattered more if anyone had actually cared about her, but I doubt anyone did.

[@nexusshark]

@@RileyTaker I did care about Jane. Just not in this movie. This movie gave me no time to care about anything.

[@marlom7882]

I don’t care if the movie was good or bad I will *never* forgive the MCU for (ironically) butchering one of my favorite comic book villains Gorr

[@ReinoldFZ]

The tone of the comic book asked for a movie Disney/Marvel cannot allow themselves to do anymore. If they tried it is pure greed, nobody will be happy, nor the few comic book readers of the story, nor the MCU moviegoers that love light comedies.

[@محمودمحمد-ر8ج2ك]

@@ReinoldFZ what is the name of the comics ?

[@ivangotyokes]

Just be glad they didn't cast a female to play Gorr.

[@sagarsudhirganu8735]

waititi must have gone full on serious mode with gorr's movie...

[@vetarlittorf1807]

I don't know that much about modern Marvel comics, I prefer the classics (I stopped reading after AvX). What was Gorr like in the comics and what did the movie change?

[@peteschaub7561]

I remember as a kid coming across this book called Bored of the Rings. Basically it was a parody of Lord of the Rings, tearing down all these beloved characters and making fun of all the serious things Tolkien put into his work. I remember being really bothered by this because it just seemed so insulting to something that so many millions of people loved. Now nearly every single movie and TV show is like Bored of the Rings.

[@Predator20357]

There are Parodies made out of love for the series (Think Space Balls or Austin Powers) Parodies made with little care and because it’s popular (Think of the Movie Genre Parodies in the 2000s and 2010s like the Epic Movie) And Parodies made out of spite like what you described. It could also be the fact that 2000s as I remember was made in the year where there were no “Gen Z” Humor to really mock them so edgy content ran rampant.

[@Flamingtorpedostrike]

The same people who cry about how minorities should be ok with jokes about them, are crying about jokes being made about fictional Lord of the rings. You sound dumb

[@seyio1717]

@@Predator20357 Edgy humor needs to die

[@handsoapinc]

@@Predator20357 Spaceballs with made with permission from Lucasarts, whom even provided some of the CGI for the Ships. Spaceballs is a perfect example of Satire that's done in order to celebrate something they loved.

[@Predator20357]

@@seyio1717 Edgy Humor is basically fart jokes but with blood

[@someoneelse1534]

Drinker: “I’m gonna spoil the plot.” Me: “holy shit, there’s a plot?!”

[@thisisartman]

There is a smidgen of relevance from scene to scene that seems to be called a plot

[@stevearno9726]

The plot was this: More screentime for Korg. The end.

[@thisisartman]

@@stevearno9726 more korg? Where? I barely saw any korg. 🤌🏼

[@stevearno9726]

@@thisisartman he's sat on your sofa 3 hours after the party ended not getting the hint to fuck off out ya house.

[@darwincity]

Allegedly...

[@quipsilvervr]

Man, Christian Bale's character was super heartbreaking. It was a real detachment from the rest of the movie, but I definitely think Bale was the highlight. I thought it was gonna be amazing after the hilarious Ragnarok.

[@reinaldocaraballo4657]

Is that Christian Bell was amazing he was so into his role he was a great just a great character he made me sympathize with him he was the only person I cared about the entire movie I wanted him to win I wanted him to succeed so bad I wanted him to kill all the dogs and you know after what he did to Thor I kind of wanted to kill Thor too because my God That's not the story I know it it really is the gas movie Marvel's ever done you know why don't they have to make everything gay why is everyone have to be gay so Thor's getting now too enough I don't need my kids asking me about gay s*** all the f****** time and transgenders s*** and non-binary b******* all the f****** time I don't need this thinking that there's more than two gender s*** in my life I really don't Kristen Bell was so f****** good that the movie should have just been called go to God butcher they should have taken a f****** everybody out of the movie except for and it should have been in an hour of Christian Bill's story and then four or finding out that he's killing people then them meeting okay and then them fighting and the movie ending that's basically we should have happened and they should have just killed each other both died and that would be the end no more embarrassing Thor and at least he died killing the villain Christian Bill goes out on on top with some dignity cuz I can't so as we have marvel labeling us fans the die hard investors in their product as nerds in cells and trolls haters review bombers I step back and I see his DC is catering the fans the rock is catering to fans the catering us they're they're looking out for us they don't care what critics say they care about what the rating is for the audience that saw the movie and that's how it's supposed to be that's what it's all about I want the MCU to f****** die and I want DC to take its place because they deserve it because they give a f*** and they're actually trying to do the right thing marvel is trying to take characters and properties that we all loved and when we were younger and got introduced to and fall in love with and I'm trying to use them to push their own agendas their own idealistic b******* their own propaganda their own identity politics and they're trying to push that and they want to do it using these characters and these stories that we love and hack them the pieces make them jokes disrespect them and sell this disgusting horrible narrative you know and no no if it's not a Spider-Man movie or a guardians of the Galaxy I will not take my children to watch any more marvel movies only DC I don't need any more questions for my boys I don't need any more confusion from my voice and I don't need one of them to ask for boob job on his 14th birthday so f*** you Disney

[@aroyalduck167]

The thing about Ragnarok was, the movie had actual competent writers with Taika's humor being a good support. The humor was well appreciated as it came off the heels of a depressing Thor movie. Furthermore, the humor made sense in most cases for example, the cutting off of Surtur's initial speech at the start of the movie made sense as the ropes binding thor turning made sense. It was within the realm of sense of what could happen. That was also followed by another joke of the executioner's ladies being scared off by, lava dog goo. It set up his character well as an egotistical person who was more occupied with impressing them any chance, which in result made him turning away from Hela at the end of the movie a small, satisfying character arc. The main thing however, is how the script gives the emotional and serious moments a chance to flourish and develop instead of fucking them over with stupid jokes (*cough* Shrek 3 *cough*). Even as a dumb 14 year old, this movie felt, off. It felt like a cheap and boring movie that exploited incredible amounts of work with character building, emotional moments from better, older films rather than a fun, goofy but amazing story.

[@archibaldc.1833]

Ragnarok was pretty garbage in of itself, it was just a movie that threw in as many cheap jokes as it could with no real gravity or sense of danger or adventure. What few scenes tried to be serious were awkward and rushed.

[@quipsilvervr]

@@archibaldc.1833 You shut your whore mouth! :p Don't go turning our little corner of civilised commentary into a church of lies!

[@LHJC10]

@@archibaldc.1833 Absolutely agree with this, i thought it was the turning point in the Marvel series. I can't take a movie seriously that doesn't take it self seriously. I liked the first Thor movie then decline was a steep downward curve

[@bilko991]

I'm ok with some jokes in a Thor movie. I'm not ok with Thor BEING the joke of the movie. The last few appearances of Thor have made him a sad, bumbling, fat, loser, who the audience is meant to laugh at. I think movie Thor peaked in Infinity War, downhill from there.

[@SlamminGraham]

The whole franchise peaked at Infinity War.

[@nont18411]

His grief was never taken seriously, unlike Wanda, whose Disney tried so hard (and succeeded) in making audience root for her enslaving people and mass murdering heroes.

[@justhair17]

Definitely agree. I even thought Ragnarok was a good movie and yeah, Thor was awesome in Infinity War. But then, Endgame happened and it all went downhill. Tho tbf, the same thing can be said about the MCU as a whole (with the exception of NWH)

[@levihydrangea8989]

@@justhair17 Endgame Thor should have been a stepping stone for him to shine in his last movie... but what the hell? Tf are they doing?

[@kin2955]

I think Ragnarok had a good balance of serious and goofy Thor, in this he’s just an incompetent bumbling idiot who gets outsmarted and out-skilled by a woman who’s only just been deemed as worthy because… reasons

[@danielversion1.035]

A wise old guy once said: know when to walk away, know when to run. That's precisely why i gave up on the MCU after "phase 3" and gave up on Starwars after... Disney.

[@jamesduncan6729]

Know when to hold 'em... Know when to fold 'em! Know when to walk away, know when to run... ♪♬

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

With Star Wars, I run wholeheartedly towards to the old EU. Submerging yourself into the KOTOR, Republic, Purge and Legacy comics is a refreshing experience from all the Filoni schlock.

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

​@@yrooxrksvi7142 filoni is a overrated producer he doesn't respect George Lucas canon continuity and old eu writers he only cares about ashoka tano and he lacks of creativity

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Couldn't have said it better.

[@fenrix155]

Me too except I watched moon knight and it’s amazing

[@SomeeGuyy]

"It just feels cheap." Sums up perfectly what Hollywood has become.

[@wormbo2]

It's like Dolly Parton... "honey, it takes a lotta money to look this cheap!" ...the major difference is that Dolly has class and charisma, Hollywood... de nada.

[@Daemonarch2k6]

You really have to want this in a movie that costs several hundreds of millions of dollars to make

[@jesuschristislord77733]

Well, Hollywood pays you a million dollars for a kiss and 10 cents for your soul.

[@Xannyphantom905]

Movies are dead. The only movies worth going to see are Sonic and John Wick. And The Raid if they ever stop fucking around and make the third one.

[@cemsengul16]

When they spend all their time and resources on representation instead of good writing and acting.

[@josephgriffiths9151]

The overuse of jokes was such a problem. Thor and co. never seem terribly concerned about the fate of the kidnapped children, because they're still just cracking jokes non stop. And if the characters don't take the plot or the stakes seriously, why should we?

[@Chhjmmkg]

Same man. Natalie portperson calls that a mission even and all of them continue to talk about their love life. There was no intensity throughout. Also, Thor made the kids immortal by the end. The amount of jokes that didn't land was too much for me.

[@Desolaytore]

Too many jokes, too many classic song bits being thrown in to every scene, not enough seriousness, most awful dialogue. Wish the actors had the balls to just quit after seeing the script.

[@garrusvakarian4112]

That naked Thor scene is such a blatant double standard that I wouldn’t watch the movie for that reason only. The level of hypocrisy there is just sickening.

[@Mr_Mistah]

Must be this "equality" thing I keep hearing about

[@Anwell100]

Reminds me of that underwear scene in star trek into the darkness the writer actually had to apologise for.. Either these kinds of scenes are ok, or they are not. No dobble standard allowed.

[@disgruntledparent]

I not long posted agreeing to a similar post. There is no place for nudity and objectification regardless of the gender in any Marvel movie where parents take their kids to see it. As soon as I saw this scene in the trailer and all the hypocritical women would be shouting "sexist" and "misogynistic" had it been a naked Natalie Portman tied up, simping over Hemsworth like he is a piece of meat in the comments, I cancelled my Disney+ subscription explained why. I told them that this isn't equality or feminism (not the proper one that actually wants equality) but just misandry. I then told them where they can go with their blatant double standards and they won't get another penny out of me for as long as I live.

[@2011zeldafan]

The nudity is just unnecessary as is the movie itself. They like to humiliate and sexualize Hemsworth whenever they can. But women can’t be seen as feminine or sexy anymore. Although I’d rather not see Tessa or Natalie completely naked either.

[@ThePenguin82]

So what. He’s the most beautiful human being alive.

[@themachine03]

Love how marvel is failing and people are actually finally noticing it

[@somerandolad]

The MCU has now lost it's spark.

[@chasehedges6775]

It was hit or miss the moment Iron Man 2 came out

[@chasehedges6775]

@@somerandolad Yep

[@blyat8832]

They've been failing since after endgame. They only had one solid and good film past then, the rest have been messes with contrived plots, lazy writing and just mainly used for political gain than actually telling a good story, and the ones that aren't that struggle with a bad story, plot holes and just plain horrible writing and decisions. Like I'm glad it continued because we got the new Spiderman film which was a rare film these days, a movie made to entertain people with no politics or woke bs, and made for fans and not critics or twitter. It was a good movie basically. Now try and say the same for the other media they have made past endgame

[@gulinp1]

Marvel dumbed down audience to be thrilled by mediocre movies that are carbon copies of each other but people were blown away by CGI buildup for Thanos. Now once whole that thing is over, people finally realize they are modern day Transformer movies, with Disney woke agenda

[@dusanpavlovic5891]

If they truly wanted a funny Thor film, they should have based it on Thor's adventures with the Guardians of the Galaxy instead of abandoning them in the first 15 minutes. I might be a bit biased because I absolutely adore the Guardians, but I really feel like this movie should have been about Thor and the Guardians, and Gorr's fantastic arc should have been saved for another serious Thor movie (ideally not directed by Taika Waititi). Such wasted potential, in more ways than one.

[@pigifi]

Well, there were ppl complaining that Thor: Ragnarok was Hulk 2. So they cut out the Guardians early on so that the Thor movie can actually be a Thor movie. Whether it worked is another question...

[@dusanpavlovic5891]

@@pigifi Yeah, I get that. But ironically, Thor felt almost like a side character in this movie.

[@normadgarmez7026]

Maybe calling it "Thor and The Guardians" could of worked for a third movie for GoTG and spinoff for Thor.

[@thedreflacko]

You support Russia lol 😂 anything you have to say doesn't matter you are a moron

[@thecatfather857]

THIS, ALL OF THIS

[@IkanaMaskedMan]

I love how you refer to Natalie as "Natalie Port person" to avoid conflicts with basically everyone haha

[@CamberRockerCamber]

Lol. Once I caught on it made me laugh out loud while at the gym.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff5899]

Should call her by her real name; Natalie Hershlag.

[@Raptorworld22]

I don't really get it, is it just making fun of her name or did she come out as one of those they/them/oi vey types? either way, pretty funny

[@Raptorworld22]

@@GAHAHAHH I mean "Bullying" is one context, and not the applicable one in this scenario. I can think of many reasons I would pronounce someone's name wrong intentionally that aren't bullying, you know, like comedy. Besides, she's a public figure, it's not like she's gonna get offended by one guy's youtube video.

[@fatty1040]

@@GAHAHAHH Yess boohoo your favorite celebrity has been name called,time to abandon ship.

[@fr0ck360]

I miss the old Thor (including IW). I really don’t mind when people say he’s boring in the first movie. People have their own taste of Thor’s character. The movie knows when to get serious and comedic like Odin banishing arrogant Thor, etc. It feels weird when they retconned warriors 3 as a bunch of fodders in Ragnarok. I would’ve told 14 yo me in the past that I shouldn’t care about them

[@muro.kocoglu]

Thor LAT > The Dark Knight

[@worp4406]

@@muro.kocoglu Hope that is sarcasm

[@Thepizzaman456]

I really don’t understand all the hate Thor TDW gets. When it came out I wasn’t crazy about but I rewatched it years later with my dad and we both really liked it. Thor was badass, the villain Malekith was dark and menacing and not cracking jokes every two minutes. I liked when Thor was taken more seriously and not treated as an incompetent buffoon like he is now.

[@awesomeatronik]

@@Thepizzaman456 I think dark world was one of the better marvel movies, it also brought a cosmic scope to the MCU that was needed for the future.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

They had to change it up because he's a strong male character who will overshadow the MsheU narrative.

[@rocksem9451]

Thanks so much for pointing out the hypocrisy of making sexually objectifying a man being okay while a great crime when done to a woman. It's actually the centerpiece of their advertising campaign. I'd like to propose the Critical Drinker Axiom of Entertainment: If a woman can do anything a man can do then anything you can do to a man can be done to a woman.

[@disgruntledparent]

I am in complete agreement on this. This one scene alone, and its blatant hypocrisy angered me so much that I wouldn't watch this crap if Elon Musk handed me a blank cheque to fill out. The fact that they have turned Thor into some himbo piece of meat joke is disrespectful to the character and they wouldn't dare treat their female superheroes in such a way. I had to explain to my kids why I was cancelling Disney+ and why I am now done with all Disney content. They will never see another penny of my hard earned as long as I live now. I also notice how all modern media is now also preaching body positivity and to not be "fat phobic" but that only seems to apply to women too. What men are being told by this scene is that they need to spend hours in the gym every day to get a ripped physique, and be one of the 5% very well endowed, something men have no control over, like their height. Essentially the same lie told by the adult industry which is shown to have a damaging effect on young men as well as women. Given the suicide rate is much higher among men, I find this rather irresponsible. I miss the old days when feminism meant wanting equal rights for women. I was on board with that. When Playgirl came out, feminists were saying "if men can objectify and look at naked women, then we should be able to objectify and look at naked men". That is completely fair and what I regard as equality. This, whatever this crap is, it is not equality, it is double standards plain and simple. The feminists these days are saying "it is sexist and misogynistic to objectify women, but it is okay for us to objectify men". They simply want to replace misogyny with misandry. Neither of which are good things to have in society. On top of all that, this scene and where they are going on about orgies, is absolutely not appropriate for kids. If my kids were 8 years old I wouldn't take them to see this any more than I would have, had that had been Natalie Portman or Tess Thompson tied butt naked and objectified in such a way. They shouldn't be objectifying anyone in these movies, regardless of their gender.

[@battlesheep2552]

And what do you even lose by extending the same protections to men that you insist that women need? Why is it so wrong for YOU to be forced into the bland world where you aren't allowed to objectify people that YOU are forcing others into?

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@disgruntledparent Indeed, it's the same as modern tactics to supposedly combat racism. Instead of creating equality, they create inequality in the opposite direction and they claim that it's fair. Certainly one wouldn't tell their children that if one child hits them to hit them back to even things out, but in this case, it's their grandchildren or even great grandchildren hitting each other for what was done many years ago.

[@angstyteen6042]

@@battlesheep2552 TRIGGERED FEMINIST DETECTED

[@darkseid6898]

Disgusting woke trash. Only sheeple keep on paying for Disney's leftist indoctrinating propaganda.

[@jamieconn6896]

Gotta feel for Chris hemsworth, he really loves the character and doubt anyone could play him better but he still gets shafted like this time and time again playing this character.

[@LeeH1989]

Pretty sure he enjoys playing jokey thor though I'm sure he was getting bored of the character after the 2nd thor film, so I wouldn't feel sorry at all. But I do prefer the less goofy thor personally.

[@shershan254]

Disney did to him what Warner did to Henry and the entire cast of justice league

[@Aria-un9iy]

Disney doesn’t want actual strong male leads in their films. If you’re not a feminized/humiliated male, a woman, black, gay or trans, they could not care less about you

[@jimharris5320]

I was of the understanding that Hemsworth wanted to bring more comedy to the role, so I don't feel for him very much.

[@moebetta4224]

He's cashing the checks.

[@gauravrai2736]

How was Natlie Portperson able to fight like a battle hardened warrior while it took others thousands of years to reach there?

[@Avelcaine]

Mjolnir has a magical UI/AI of sorts, although it's never really explained in detail. Basically, the hammer enables the worthy to use the power they're given immediately, since it's often a "moment of need" kind of thing. Cap clearly benefits from it as well, in Endgame.

[@krazyninja954]

@@Avelcaine cap is a super soldier with a good heart, Natalie portperson is just a scientist with a cancer. When cap hold the hammer we started crying, when Natalie portperson hold the hammer we were confused.

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

Hollywood Whamen powah.

[@tdog652041]

Reasons

[@Brandon-jb3rn]

Oh I can explain that…it’s because she got a cooter instead of sausage

[@domb.1522]

I genuinely believe that the reason Gor had no funny lines and was a real threat is because Christian Bale refused to let Tika Wititi have his way with the character. He’s a serious actor who takes his craft very seriously.

[@jiminlong7096]

He did joke and his voice was awful. Bale sucked in this movie.

[@domb.1522]

@@jiminlong7096 that’s because this movie sucked. If it had picked a more serious tone Bale would have had something better to work with. I mean he has cringe moments, but compared to the rest of the cast his performance is the best. This movie contradicts itself by trying to be a buddy comedy while having a serious villain with an actual goal and an empathetic backstory.

[@jiminlong7096]

@@domb.1522 Well yea..Bale is 1 of the best and I disagree. Comic Jane Thor is an absolute atrocity and her story is trash. Natalie on the other hand is amazing in any role she does.

[@domb.1522]

@@jiminlong7096 True. While a lot of people found her stale and uninspired in this movie I was actually surprised with how well she did. Those moments where you are reminded she has cancer really hit hard, and portman played it well. I just wish they would have shown more of her struggling with the fact that she’s dying and not try to make her a goofy, awkward, character that tries to hard. They really missed a lot of opportunities in this movie, if i’m being honest. Like: They could have shown more of how even after hundreds, or thousands, of years, valkyrie is still torn up about how her sisters were massacred and odin did nothing about it. And there’s this side of her that harbors a lot of anger and pain. It would have been such a cool twist if gor actually convinced her to join him.

[@domb.1522]

@@jiminlong7096 and in the final battle it could have been thor and jane vs gor and valkyrie.

[@JayJay5244]

Thor leaving with the Guardians in Endgame made us so excited for future movies and the future of the MCU as a whole… Him abandoning the Guardians within the first few minutes of the movie just shows that, like Star Wars, Disney Marvel has no idea where they’re going with Phase 4… I don’t even know what they’re building up to…

[@gubbinsgaming992]

Yeah like why go to the trouble of bringing Thor and the Guardians together only to have them split up in 5 minutes.

[@bromododragon2252]

It's building up to a multi-versal time traveling war that totally won't be unsatisfying or confusing!

[@tylere.8436]

@@bromododragon2252 Oh it will be retarded if that is the case. CoD Zombies went that route and was absolutelty confusing and goofy. What started as a simple Nazi experiment gone wrong to a multi-dimesional war of space aliens and Gods, it was clear the story jumped the shark.

[@thejaded]

They're building up to Secret Wars I reckon but shit, we won't see that for like a good 3-4 years

[@kuhanblock9380]

@@thejaded shouldn't Secret Wars be the final story in the MCU before a major reboot?

[@MFBooks-gy5nz]

Gorr in the comics was no joke. He massacred countless pantheons with ease, tortured a god of torture till he broke, managed to enslave countless gods to make a bomb that would ripple throughout time and space to kill every God ever, held his own against Thor multiple times even when there were three of him and in the end Thor couldn’t beat him. It was only once he realised that he himself had become a god did his ‘child’, which he created out of grief and power, kill him, essentially committing suicide. His origin is also way better. He and his people were in a barren wasteland of a planet and had to trek through it. Over time members of his tribe would die of dehydration and starvation, all the while the priest would say it is the will of the gods and they shall be rewarded. Eventually Gorrs wife and unborn baby are killed, leaving him to raise their child. Eventually they died as well and when the rest of the tribe told him that it was the Gods plan, did he flip out. He denounced the Gods, called everyone fools and was exiled from his people, left to die. Near death, Gorr would encounter two wounded gods, one in gold and the other in darkness. The golden one asked for Gorrs help and Gorr went berserk, taking the dark Gods weapon and slaying the Golden God. Believing all gods were selfish, uncaring and cruel beings, unworthy to live let alone be worshipped. From that point on he made his vow, “All Gods Must die.”

[@yourmum69_420]

that's already a million times better than this movie

[@regiman222]

And we didn’t get this Gorr because...?

[@Afrologist]

@@regiman222 Because the goal of every Marvel movie is to sling leftist propaganda, not tell impactful stories.

[@theserpent8667]

Wait, they didn't just copy this? Why?

[@ddplzz]

@@theserpent8667 When I saw the trailer I figured they were just going to play this storyline out.... But why didn't they?..

[@joelsmith9311]

100% spot on review. This movie was diabolical, I managed about 25 minutes before abandoning it with a real sense of regret and frustration. Taika, you’ve done more to kill off Thor than Thanos ever did.

[@cleveryoutubename4445]

To prepare for his role as Gorr, Christian Bale actually travelled to different realms and killed several gods. His commitment to the role is second to none.

[@Milanders]

Very true… Many actors have said that it’s irresponsible to go as method as Bale does because of the great risk of death you can receive from intergalactic space deities.

[@cleveryoutubename4445]

@@Milanders it’s still not as bad as when he had his own parents killed in front of him to prepare for Batman.

[@larryroyovitz7829]

@@cleveryoutubename4445 Or actually killing hookers to prepare for American Psycho.

[@azureascendant994]

Hilarious...

[@Kenny-the-Platypus]

Bravo Chris...

[@maxoutrage7270]

The fear of exposing “Strong independent women” to hardship is the very thing that prevents them from any meaningful character growth.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯. Accurate

[@ItsBobEvans]

@its Time 🤡

[@hnlpharmd]

That's okay, the simpletons they're targeting with their pandering don't need no character development. Muh representation and girl power and stuff.

[@gellister]

The insinuation that women need to grow would throw out the "you are perfect as you are" masturbatory mantra the media asks modern women to get completely drunk on.

[@Zathren]

Oof! Well said buddy!

[@Chris-es3wf]

My mom died of cancer after 10 years of treatments when I was a kid, and that's one of the plotlines that really made me connect with Starlord. It drove a lot about his character. Using it as a cheap plot device in love and thunder is a bit insulting.

[@MrLethalShots]

If anything, it was cheaper in the Guardians.

[@rivertwygzbed543]

My Brother had cancer, my Dad had cancer and his Dad before him had cancer. I think this movie has activated the family gene and gave me stage 999 cancer.

[@jennytailia5272]

Its actually a canon plot point in a Thor comic. Ecxept in the comic he loses his powers. Imagine if they did that lmfao

[@ShadowSonic2]

It wasn't done cheaply here at all, you buffoon

[@EPICBryce]

@@jennytailia5272 All hell would break loose 😂 I can’t wait to see people use the excuse that this story was in the comics so it’s good apparently

[@kovacsj7823]

I can somehow easily imagine Christian Bale as Joker , when i look at the posessed Gorr look. He legitimally looks scary and crazy.

[@gideonmele1556]

I’d pay money to see Bale as the Joker. Probably one of the few guys who could convincingly play both sides of the Bat coin

[@taelorpickel2830]

That'd be ironic. Because he was the Batman, and now he'd be the Joker.

[@spider-man500]

Logically, Thor should be the most tragic hero in the MCU considering all the suffering he's been through. Yet they treat it as the funniest/lighthearted thing in the MCU. While we have Wanda in the other corner, being evil for the most illogical reasons, but they treat it as if it should make us sympathise for her. Why? Disney.

[@J1283-s1k]

Notice as well how people have been ABSOLUTELY brainwashed to think Wanda is 'the most sympathetic character who lost the most' in a Universe where 1) Nebula: was stolen as a child, forced to fight her 'sister' in combat training, systematically physically and mentally tortured and broken down over years and years to be an evil killer (having her eye ripped out, things like that) and cyborg, the living embodiment of Thanos' monstrous machinations against her will until finally she embraces them as the only life she can live, as well as: 2) Bucky, a man almost killed in action in a World War, essentially giving his life to serve his country, instead he loses an arm, spends near 70 years in the capture of his enemies, is continually put in the brain blender so that his mind, try as it might, is melted down and rebuilt into a Nazi super soldier machine who was the silent killer for their atrocities over the years, can experience and remember every one of these horrific experiences he's been made a flesh suit to enact, loses his entire family and every one he knew and loved, loses his entire life from 70 years before and, like Steve, is forced to acclimatise to the 21st century thanks to finally being broken out of mental captivity by Hydra, but is framed by Zemo and, on the basis of 1 grainy CCTV picture, marked for death (to be shot on sight) by the thankless governments of the world despite his previous service as a war hero, despite not being confirmed guilty of his supposed crimes, and is then hunted and attempted to be assassinated by T'Challa (who abuses his royal power to imprison Bucky as an intended War Criminal with no evidence), is then brainwashed by Zemo into killing more innocents against his will, and then finally is almost killed by Tony thanks to Hydra having used him to kill the former's parents, people he knew. Bucky finally escapes and is given the tiniest reprieve in Wakanda before now having to fight in a Universal war, which sees him finally killed in action all these years after World War 2. He's revived and what does he do with all this trauma, all this horror, all the endless nightmares and guilt and persecution and manipulation? He goes to therapy and first avenges his time as the Winter Soldier before then amending it by going to the people who Hydra used him to wrong during his time as a super soldier cyborg assassin for the death cult he once fought against. And these pricks try to force the opinion that Wanda suffered the same and more, as Bucky, Nebula and Thor? Absurdity.

[@garythomson9908]

Because of THE NARRATIVE.

[@harrymills2770]

@@J1283-s1k "Half the population gone in one snap. Women most affected." But these people can't tell you what a woman IS when you put them on the spot. Everything about diverse female space Jesus, in whatever form, screams overcompensation for deep-seated feelings of inferiority.

[@rafaelkestafa]

Fuck. I didn't realise how true this comment is until I red it.

[@kamchatmonk]

Because men are losers and vaginapersons are the only human beings that matter.

[@seanchukwuezi3079]

Poor Chris Hemsworth he is definitely trying his best and giving it his all and gives a excellent performance as usual he does the best with this mediocre script.

[@thorstwistedbeard6314]

What are you talking about? Marvel gave him the freedom to take Thor anywhere and he CHOSE this version of Thor. He thought this was a good idea because everyone kept telling him he's a comic genius when in fact he's merely good with comedic timing. He's as much to blame as Take2 Twatiti. And yes, this is Feige's fault too. We can't credit Feige for the good stuff and just pretend he didn't produce the bad stuff.

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

He's the one who loves this bs lol and want to continue with the comedy over a serious Thor lol go research

[@EyePatchGuy88]

All those steroids just to be in a continuous spiral of mediocrity.

[@sebastianbarraza9225]

We don't use scripts anymore in Holly wood the way it works is actors just do their things

[@garouthetiktokinfluencerhu9731]

@@EyePatchGuy88 and millions of dollars, which is the main thing

[@RepublicOfBridger]

Gorr was the only standout for me as something of value here (beyond Jane’s ticking clock). He was compelling, threatening, and terrifying (he actually made a kid cry in my theatre), but the problem is that he’s in a different movie from everyone else. In a serious film, he would’ve been an iconic antagonist but now he will likely be forgotten. A pity this is the route they took.

[@jmhaugen4757]

I watched a video that went over the God-Butcher story arc, and given what the Drinker explained of this movie...ya, Gorr was WASTED here. In the comics, he's not just crying over a dead child. He watched his people squander themselves in devotion to gods who never answered their prayers. He watched his son and wife die, all the while being told "just pray harder." He was thrown out of his own tribe for daring to question his people's unwavering faith as they starved. And then, when he actually got to MEET one of his people's gods, all he saw was a pathetic, mewling creature begging for help (the god had been grievously wounded in a fight with another deity.) Gorr doesn't simply kill gods. He LOATHES them, with a hatred so fervent it'd make the most hardcore religious zealot jealous. And when Thor gets on Gorr's trail and goes to find other gods, all he discovers is butchered corpses. Not killed; BUTCHERED. Nailed to trees, eviscerated, torn apart...Gorr exacted an undying vengeance against the very concept of divinity, and you could FEEL his wrath in every scene depicting his handiwork. Giving Taika Wahtiti a villain of that caliber was a mistake. Actually, giving him another Thor movie appears to have been kind of a mistake.

[@phattjohnson]

@@jmhaugen4757 Well written mate! I'm almost keen to check Bale's portrayal of Gorr based on your explanation of the character alone.

[@silashurd3597]

Dang, a scary villain that made a kid cry???? Definitely excited to see this guy do his thing!

[@Unicornpirate]

Good. That kid in your theater is dumb af for thinking this was going to be a good movie.

[@RepublicOfBridger]

@@silashurd3597 he was like 4 or 5 so don’t be too excited. Still, definitely the part I most enjoyed. Wished he was more dominant like Hella though

[@DrDolan2000]

1. How can Mjolnir repair itself? 2. How can Jane wield it? 3. Why is Christian Bale in this?

[@davidreitzer5471]

how did it give Jane powers? it's already established in the last movie that it only focused Thors innate powers. but hey, strong powerful woman!!! ffs

[@fireprophetproductions4967]

And why the FRICK is nobody talking about RUSSELL FREAKING CROWE

[@Moonbovine]

Jane became worthy in the second movie. When the building was falling she was going to sacrifice herself and shield Thor, and thats how she became worthy

[@wolfspain7385]

With that logic, Black Widow, Iron-man and literally every person in the Avengers is worthy.

[@alexmuenster2102]

@@davidreitzer5471 Right! Odin mocked Thor for thinking that Mjölnir was *intrinsically* powerful, that he derived his strength from it. "Are you a God of Hammers?!"

[@jedimark5260]

Disney has locked themselves into having to produce so much Marvel content. They just put out more episodes of content rather than films. These episodes are more like a theme park ride than a movie experience. Martin Scorsese was right after all.

[@ErgoDog]

It was like this from the beginning. You guys were juts blinded by effects

[@filipgasic2642]

@@ErgoDog lol no it wasn't. You just weren't born then to remember

[@knightmare_edits]

The man was right from the beginning, but people refused to take in his words.

[@rustylarry7465]

Yeah, quality dipped significantly after the infinity saga. Even no way home had a LOT of rewrites said by tom holland i think, vfx artists are significantly stressed out by the output and consequent workload asked of them by disney. They need to really streamline their content(content shouldnt be longer than they need to be), all the disney plus shows have been chore to watch through, very emotionally taxing, it needs a big revamp, they need more competent writing or if they have competent writers, give them more time, plan waaay ahead, 6 years ahead. Disney is on a downward spiral, a snowball of decreasing revenue, the higher ups are surely stressed out. Who is even gonna watch she hulk and echo? Sickofans will pay to see charlie cox and vincent d'onofrio. Everything is just jokes that dont land STOOOOP. Had a huge tangent there, i'm just very disappointed, disney needs to keep their grubby hands off marvel and keep the people they hire in check, can't have a lead actor who replaced an actual voice actors character he played for years call people in the internet idiots(lightyear).

[@babycabbit]

I am legit over Marvel movies. It's like that's all that is coming out.

[@LFGStories]

The script is so bad that the actors look genuinely embarrassed. The farewell scene between Thor and the Guardians is a perfect example.

[@Knucklesmd]

They couldn’t wait to get off the screen.

[@nate5371]

Chris Pratt definitely showed it. My immediate take away in every scene he was in just screamed "ok scene. Where's my paycheck?"

[@cloudshines812]

@@nate5371 “Stop holding me up… I gotta get over to Illumination to do my terrible Super Mario performance!”

[@josephiudice8287]

I thought I was autistic and didn't understand social interaction... Yes, Quill was acting uncomfortable and embarrassed....because Thor was making the goodbye scene awkward.

[@cloudshines812]

@@scottmoreland7696 I made that post 5 months ago lmfao. That was before the movie came out

[@aurex8937]

Thor is just another icon of sheer masculinity, resolve, strength and competence bent over and with the shaft of his hammer stuck in his arse by talentless activists.

[@agentorange3774]

MB Er ist Jude

[@justanothertrash5062]

@MB His real name is "Taika David *Cohen*", I don't even need to go as far as the Early Life section, but I appreciate the call out for the others who might have missed the 'reference' XD

[@TheMeta141]

thank you for that image, Jane Foster strapping Mjolnir to her groin handle up

[@HorFell]

@MB Lady Thor was a Marvel decision. Not his. Not to excuse him but blame should fall where it deserves to be heaped on. Seems the issue with this film is they had success in Ragnarok and decided to take what made it decent and crank it up to 100.

[@Akashi-js6rx]

@@justanothertrash5062 Also look who's at the top of Marvel, Disney and WB lmao

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

The fact that they cut the scene that bale did the "come to daddy" scream that bale said was the only reason why he did the film, is really damn criminal

[@Maddog3060]

The worst tragedy of Marvel movies is that they have an excellent Thor in Chris Hemsworth and they keep mucking it up. Hell, at this point he should be playing the Dragonborn in a [well written] Skyrim movie/series. But noooo, we have to waste decent acting talent on stupid, stupid writers.

[@MissMedeiros]

​@peter Stupid bot!

[@J1283-s1k]

The worst part is how fantastic he can be (Infinity War, even in this movie he has the odd moment 'Let go of my things' *as he lifts Gorr with one arm and throws him) but he himself chooses to side with Taika and 'keep reinventing the character' 'we wanted to do something different every time' 'Taika's like a big kid' etc. He's as much to blame for Thor now being a retard and it's such a shame because he is phenomenal when he's actually dialed in but he wants to do what Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute baby' Waititi wants to do 'with the imagination of a 7 year old' over something that suits and benefits the character.

[@mehitablestorm8877]

Wow....that's the best point I've heard about the Thor movies - Chris Hemsworth IS an amazing Thor - and they ARE mucking it up over and over. He's like a freakin' work of art. They could actually use him just to get women (and probably gay guys) into these movies instead of loading them up with baloney like Natalie Portperson & "King" Valkeryie. Hemsworth deserves BETTER. He's probably the only male actor I can even name off the top of my head these days & certainly one of the few really attractive ones.

[@Enzo575]

I feel the same about Henry Cavill and Superman. WB wasting him too. Smmh

[@AdRock]

Hemsworth is a better actor than he’s given credit for.

[@letosgoldenpath1993]

This really needed to be a more serious film bringing Thor back to the level of a true hero and finding his way back to his position as King of Asgard. A redemption after Thor's fall from Grace in Endgame. It really should have been a story of rediscovery and new purpose, instead we get a Disney shitshow.

[@truthseeker1581]

I agree and I was like they were forcing comedy but it wasn't the film for it.

[@letosgoldenpath1993]

@@truthseeker1581 Yes. This needed to be a more serious film. More like the first film. They really have got to get producers out of managing writing and directing and let those artists be. I highly suggest producers watch "The Offer." Notice how AL Ruddy SUPPORTS his creative instead of managing them. That's how you make good entertainment. And tell the CEOs to stay in their offices and fiddle themselves. They can't yell good entertainment from their assholes.

[@commandercaptain4664]

@@letosgoldenpath1993 That won't happen because the film industry is on its inevitable last legs, and studios want to milk whatever they can before bailing in their golden -showers- parachutes. Hard to talk anyone out of a suicidal run that profitable.

[@truthseeker1581]

@@letosgoldenpath1993 I was so disappointed 😞

[@jennylee5003]

The whole movie mocked Thor and and shtty feminist characters tried to upstage him. It seems like they wanted to ruin Thor

[@hibinx]

Disney really said “let’s make thor a laughable, corny character, and keep him unhappy for a new avenger”

[@englishatheart]

Because female characters (and anyone who isn't a white, straight, cis man) are the only ones that matter to Disney.

[@seasnek7024]

Imagine nearly 20 years for this character and they still saying we don't know what to do with this guy, so let's make him the funny character now

[@josephpaloma43]

I give the movie a 7/10. It could’ve been more serious and wayyyyyy better with it’s build up. But in my opinion his character wasn’t tarnished at all. I never really felt the sense the comedy ruined his character as a whole, but ruined moments that should’ve been serious. Overall the film feels like a Phase 1 Marvel film, and is a back to basic superhero film. Not a bad film, but no the MCU’s highlight either

[@Mr_Cinematic]

If you enjoyed this you should check out my REVIEW for Thor love and thunder

[@Manny82191]

There's a continuity error with Korg in this movie. In Thor Ragnorak, Korg says the only people to show up to his rebellion were his mother and her boyfriend, but in Love and Thunder he says he has 2 dads. Almost as if they're going for that "agenda"

[@Damianweibler]

The man is a living rock monster, whose to say how sex and gender works on their world? Maybe a tribe gathers together and assembles a new baby from chunks of themselves so sex has no relevance, and they really can just pick their gender?

[@soundslikepizza]

It was such an absolute disappointment, marvel really fumbling the bag ever since infinity war it seems

[@ShadowSonic2]

Nah, they just aren't interested in appealing to white nationalists anymore.

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

Infinity War wasn't that good itself

[@RoyalGuardGeine]

Everything since was about replacing male superheroes with their female counterparts. That's about the only guideline of whatever trash they throw at us. Only Spiderman miraculously managed to slip by, even though the last movie was the perfect opportunity for it.

[@genghiskhan2056]

@@RoyalGuardGeine Even then, it's only a matter of time until that happens.

[@nickyblue4866]

@@genghiskhan2056 spider WO-man

[@CincinnatusPublish]

Bale's performance was excellent. Anytime he was on screen I thought, "Why isn't he in more of this film?" Even the writing for his character was the best in the movie.

[@dittie83]

I agree - totally loved how Bale performed and was featured. My only grievance was not showing me murder more gods. All we saw were a few shots of the aftermath. I would've loved to see Gorr slay Falligar the Behemoth.

[@GloomEater]

@@dittie83 Gorr never really overpowered Thor and the others at all except for that one instance when he ensnared them in the tendrils. Kinda sucked he lowkey lost pretty much every fight he was in with Thor and others.

[@trenhen4311]

@@GloomEater he smacked up Thor at the end and would’ve killed him if Jane didn’t come in.

[@jaywu4804]

@@GloomEater he needed them alive so he could get the stormbreaker. he could have strangled all of them if he wanted to, or just simply stab them with his god-killing sword would do the job quick.

[@Soulslinger]

Except for the massive logical loophole that his entire motivation is based on how gods are selfish and will absolutely never help when needed. And then he bases his whole plan on kidnapping those kids and waiting for Thor to come and rescue them, i.e. not be selfish and help when needed.

[@greendemon905]

The concept of Lady Thor has always baffled me. Thor is not a secret identity, like Spider-Man or Superman. It's the name of one specific guy. A guy from an actual, real-world mythology. If Thor had a name like Thunderman for example, someone else could take his place. But you can't just take his actual name, and say you're him now. In the same way, Thor can't just become Jane Foster. He can become a doctor like her, but he can't actually take her name and identity.

[@airixxxx]

The real Thor, not this Disney clown, is a regular dude from earth who finds Mjolnir and is granted the powers of Thor and is his alter ego.

[@ThaCodFathers]

Its been done for years in the comics

[@RoGersVision]

In the olden days we called it identity theft.

[@ericglasgow7087]

to Green Demon, to add to your point about the mythology of Thor, His HAMMER is the Symbol for Masculinity and Manhood.

[@MamaMOB]

THANK YOU!!!

[@xeesos]

i hate hate hate how marvel made thor a laughing stock despite all he went through. avid wanda fan but is so unfair how we get to see wanda’s trauma and her evolve but for thor? nothing but shits and giggles. he’s a character with so much depth that they refuse to explore it’s so annoying. i hate how they made it seem like he just got over his trauma with no real development. this movie really didn’t do it for me.

[@falsetitle6940]

Why in the hell would Gorr need thor to convince him to wish his daughter back to life when her death is his entire motivation? Is he supposed to be that dumb?

[@strawberrylotlizard]

The writers don't know how to end a movie or write stories

[@alexdesuys5712]

He was possessed and brainwashed by the sword, no?

[@Blocparty01]

And the guy that killed him is her new dad

[@erubin100]

@@alexdesuys5712 that's the same bs excuse as Wanda being "possessed" by the darkhold in dr strange 2. Even if that's the case, it carries no weight because gorr himself loses agency.

[@crystalcake3392]

Because he was gonna wish for all gods to die. So Thor convinces him that that’s not what he wants and that he just wants his daughter back

[@DelusionalPricesGuy]

This movie did an awful job separating the comedy from the most dramatic scenes. When jane foster reveals to thor that she has cancer, the movie room I was in started LAUGHING after an awkward second of silence And i cant blame them, is hard to know what to laugh at lol

[@ishaanhall78]

exact same thing happened in my theater. it was hilarious

[@lukehalliwell8780]

Bro that happened in my theatre! She delivered the line like it was a fucking joke 😂😂😂

[@THEdudeproductions]

Yall too? 💀

[@Zetos]

That's cause it was meant to be funny, lol. They were being awkward and stuff.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

If you enjoyed this you should check out my REVIEW for Thor love and thunder

[@mrstraiban]

I had an okay time with the movie when viewing it as a Thor parody. It doesn't work as a serious canon Marvel movie with all of its plot holes. The most difficult thing to forgive for me at least was the absolute bipolar nature of the movie jumping from cancer and death of a child to slapstick, male nudity and yelling space goats.

[@IRAFOX888]

"Serious cannon marvel film." Okay, re-read that....... Now come back with a real reply. Other than that, I can understand why people didn't like the almost ADHD cuts. It was made for a certain brand of people, and will probably go down as a cult hit more than anything

[@marlom7882]

Male nudity? So male nudity is ok in a pg13 film but if it was female nudity then- ya know what? Never mind

[@atomicdancer]

I think Tighty-Whitey Tee is the worst thing to ever happen to Thor, and I hope he never gets to direct another MCU movie >:(

[@IRAFOX888]

@@marlom7882 Bro, have you seen the movie? I promise you that all you see is ass. I bet you have shown more ass in a WalMart bathroom on accident to a kid more than this movie had in it.

[@GalosDj06]

Didn’t ask

[@LauraTheRed]

I could only get 1/3 of the way through this movie before I turned it off. Your review not only saved me from having to go back and endure the rest to get the full story, it was also ten times more entertaining. Thank you. :-)

[@marcohidalgo1101]

As soon as the screaming goat joke got overblown, I decided that was enough of the movie for me.

[@tawsikabdullah]

Same here. I watched only 30 minutes of this shitty movie

[@awakeninggarou6209]

How the hell did you get pass the first 10 minutes of this joke you call Thor

[@j-mc5201]

I could easily have left the cinema after 1/3 also. Also have zero intention of re-Watch on stream. Pile of absolute shite.

[@collectiveconsciousnessbeings]

I knew i wasnt trippin about being confused and bored

[@anya012]

Iron man knew the storm of bad shows were coming and he retired early for our sake

[@battlenight-_-3328]

Ironman, what a hero you are

[@lliamthrumble]

Want to like this comment but its just so.... nice.

[@DrDolan2000]

I wish everyone else signed off. This is embarassing

[@RentFreeInsideYourDamnHead]

I can imagine Stan Lee getting pissed about what the Disney MCU has done with this current ahh phase...

[@blackenedjustice503]

His contract ended he didn't sign off early

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

Me watching the Drinker's videos: Why is he always criticising Tessa Thompson? Me after watching fifteen seconds of Tessa Thompson in anything: Oh, that's why.

[@TBone4Breakfast]

"Oh. Oh...."

[@ComedyBros5]

I found her character great in the Creed films. However, anything else I've seen her in is frustrating.

[@devildolphin2102]

Hey that’s mean. She acts really good when she is Fucking Taika Waititi for her Paycheck.

[@Necron1999]

I’ve always found her dull and perpetually smug.

[@MagckC]

one of my biggest mistakes was watching MIB International

[@Alastair_]

The one scene that really got me was when the whole town is arguing and Valk is managing not at all to maintain order and Thor just says "Asgaurdians!" and everyone stops and looks at him. It's almost as if the movie KNOWS he's the king, that he should never have giving leadership to an unproven alcoholic foot solider of a dead order.

[@Dovah21]

And Waititi managed to turn that into a joke also because actually having a male character get one over on a female character on who's the better leader (even though its Thor and we already know he's a proven leader) would've damaged "THE MESSAGE".

[@madladdie7069]

Thor just demands that kind of respect. Valkyrie's king and all but she isn't a god.

[@emeraldmilcham6041]

To be fair, when a 6'5" guy with a deep voice gets loud, people tend to stop what they're doing & pay attention. Try as we might to cover it up, the human pecking order is very simplistic and bestial.

[@Undomaranel]

@@emeraldmilcham6041 Not just that, but it's earned in the human pecking order (and Asgardians). I know plenty of tall dudes who don't command respect at all because they have no self confidence, haven't used their brains to formulate strategies, and are not respectable in the slightest. But when a voice bellows out that you have followed and trusted and have proven themselves, regardless of pitch, you listen. It's not so much that a dude shows up and takes over, it's that Valkyrie hasn't earned their respect to the same level as Odin's son who they watched grow up, mature, and sacrifice for their benefit.

[@vrolijk9865]

Dont forget previous slave trader

[@stingingcake853]

honestly what you said about the child's point of view is such a good point. Someone pointed out that the silly stuff in ragnarok could be forgiven if it was thought of as Thor retelling the story for children. Love and Thunder felt like a big family romp, but with more sex and violence. If they had dressed it down to be a kids movie it might've been stronger. Like, the part where the kids get stolen, there's a good bit where Thor calms them down and assures them he's going to save them, but then there's never any real fear that a marvel movie is going to harm children. People would still complain, but at least it might be a more cohesive movie.

[@Chhjmmkg]

Dude, Ragnarok was an actually good movie. Don't compare it to this obvious cash grab. There's far too many things wrong with this movie.

[@solarsailer4166]

I love how the concept of 'worth' gets bandied around by proud, egocentric characters who haven't earned a thing. I love how a 'king' doesn't have a shred of responsibility but still think she deserved it. I love how a stage 4 cancer patient doesn't suffer any of the symptoms of her treatment. I love how nothing is taken seriously in this film. So much to love.

[@phoebea]

And, I love the dripping sarcasm of this comment.

[@nont18411]

Remember, this “king” sold countless slaves to their deaths to get drinking money for millennia because she couldn’t handle a humiliation of losing against Hela. And yet she’s more worthy of the throne than Thor, whose biggest sin was just getting fat.

[@lucyhardman2267]

She's king enough to buy herself some lesbian formalwear and pose in meetings like she's in a fashion shoot or a perfume advert. She's just not king enough to stick around and shoulder her responsibilities should they ever turn out to be dull or difficult. Truly, the gracious and wise leader Asgard deserves. "I'm only worthy of the hammer because you taught me to save people, Jane." That was rich when both Thors watched all the children of Asgard get captured and decided they'd rather stand about making small talk than actually rescue them. BUT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE GOATS ARE SCREAMING. ISN'T IT FUNNY? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOATS. AND THEY'RE SCREAMING. LET'S DO THAT JOKE TWENTY MORE TIMES IN CASE YOU DIDN'T LAUGH THE FIRST TIME.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@lucyhardman2267 I really miss Jane Foster the EMT. Making her a scientist was a mistake, because it takes a core part of what made the character work and give the relationship with Thor weight.

[@Veldtian1]

I love how I can smell the coming downfall of that hateful director Tiko whatever, he's going down for this.

[@thatrandomguy8988]

I was surprised no one batted an eye over Thor being stripped of his clothes without his consent used as a joke

[@ChrisSmooth24]

Society loves naked men. Only women need to cover up from head to toe

[@CasepbX]

No one cares if a man is sexually assaulted sadly.

[@dsilverleaf4668]

Imagine if that had been Portman. Twitter warriors would b setting shit on fire

[@andrewhuesgenwrestling]

@@dsilverleaf4668 *Portperson

[@Redditor6079]

It's OK he's a "toxic man" and no matter how much these raging feminists fight it is the embodiment of the man these women chase and will continue to chase. 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Fun fact:The reason why Gorr's All-Black Necrosword looks so underwhelming in this film is because one of the All-Black necrosword's powers is too manifest any weapons the user want but they gave this power to Hela because they said that Hela didn't have any power that were exciting or cool to look at. The reason why the All-black Necrosword has this ability because it's the first and strongest symbiote made by Knull the creator of the symbiotes.That's why in the comics when Gorr gets the necroswor it becomes his new clothes and he doesn't hold the sword it just manifest around his hand. Sony owns the rights to Venom, Carnage, and Knull also all Marvel symbiotes which is why the movie doesn't explain or hint where the necrosword comes from. I wrote this comment for all the people who were wondering where the sword came from and they will never explain the necrosword because it gets destroyed at the end of the movie.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Which begs the question why they didn't just use Gorr instead of Hela as the villain since she's never a bad guy in the comics and more a neutral party.

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105 Because they wanted a female villain, I guess?

[@jknight2276]

I kind of liked the simplistic design of the Necrosword in this movie. Maybe it's just my preference towards "historically accurate" swords or something, but the sleek longsword-like design is so nice to look at. Then again, I wish he had the ability to transform it into different weapons.

[@tajanisc]

Also All Black is the first symbiote, and well Sony doesn’t need to be that generous. It exposes laziness in the MCU, they could’ve connected it to some form of shunned Lovecraft Cthulhu creature; hence tentacles. But that requires talent and thought

[@clockworklemon9243]

I'm trying to work out Wtf the necrosword is meant it do in the movie. The gods are established as just being advanced and super powered aliens. We've seen them literally get killed the same as anything else so what's the point of a God slaying sword?

[@nightsregalia8641]

My biggest gripe is how Ragnarok established that Thor doesn't need his hammer to use his lightning and then Love and Thunder just throws that out the window. When they got captured in the shadow realm he shouldn't have had any trouble escaping but noooo he needs the axe before he can use his lightning. Also he confirmed he was still worthy so when he went to fight Gorr alone why didn't he take Zues's lightning bolt AND Mjonir?

[@jaiminsharma]

MCU teaches us an important lesson here. *Sustaining* success is more important than just achieving it.

[@Solo-du5zw]

Just like Star Wars

[@asepsisaficionado7376]

@SinAA Don’t care much for mando myself, so both brands are in the same boat as I see it.

[@davidr5658]

More important, and much harder too.

[@kylesawkon4074]

@SinAA basically just spiderman

[@AnonYmous-qm7ln]

@SinAA What do you have after mando? Yeah... Exactly.

[@danieljackson3446]

Lost both parents, his brother, his best friend, the warriors three, his home planet, the majority of his people, and was turned into a walking fat joke at the supposed pinnacle of the franchise. Do we get a payoff, where he finally gets to shine and develop further as a character? Hell no!

[@rmglover3191]

Excellent insight! Gave me an idea for a comment.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

I mean he kinda saves the day here, but he hasn't really developed any further as a character no. He's just a joker making ex-girlfriend jokes.

[@FireJach]

you forgot about love story? XD This was his development

[@GigaChadh976]

@@FireJach That’s not development

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@GigaChadh976 He learns to move on and begin a new life as the adoptive dad to Love. Pay attention

[@hoaxer5135]

My biggest dislike in the movie was when Jane gave Thor a Dear John letter, as he was off saving the world or universe or whatever, which he always returned to her after. Then she had the audacity to say he left her, just because she left before he returned.

[@genlaz1]

It's your fault.. even when it's not.

[@charlesws7825]

Hey, why not, right? Skeletor: "Hah! Just like a woman!" (If anybody gets upset at me for that, then that means you know JACK SQUAT about women!)

[@noble20xx56]

That line was hella strange. Like what Nat? You left and left the note remember lol?

[@DeepakTheDevastator]

This reminds Invincible getting dumped by that girl for being a Superhero !!

[@kidkatanatv]

@@DeepakTheDevastator We don't talk about Black Amber

[@danial6790]

Only Hollywood can make high budget film look cheap

[@PristinePerceptions]

Christian Bale was fantastic as Gorr. Honestly, the highlight of the movie. As for Natalie Portman, I think it was more a Taika Waititi problem. She has moments where she kills it - like the washbasin scene, or the one in the hospital before Thor leaves to go to fight Gorr. Of course, Taika has to undercut every serious scene with a joke.

[@jonbradley4044]

I caught so much shit for not being a fan of Ragnorok, like yeah comedic relief every now and then is fine to prevent a movie from being completely grim, but you need to let serious scenes breath for God's sake. Lord of the Rings is a perfect example, it has moments of levity and some comedic relief from the likes of Pippin and Gimli, but it let's the epic moments play out. Imagine if when Elrond gives Anduril to Aragorn he takes the sword and then drops it and goes "uuuuuj sorry hehe" that's Return of the King by Waititi.

[@PristinePerceptions]

@@jonbradley4044 "And now those foundations are gone. Sorry." - Man, if I was an Asgardian, I would've put a sock in Korg's mouth on that one. Their planet just got destroyed, damn it!

[@Fujtajblus]

@@jonbradley4044 Exactly, your entire home world is exploading and some character needs to go "yea, definitelly gonne after that". Actually not any character. Character voiced by the actual director. I watched Thor 4 feeling like I am too old, that I would need to be 10 to enjoy this. Btw. the hospital scene where Natalie Portman has a moment with Thor, the joke which was said there was "break a leg" and Thor goes something like "oh I am gonna break more than a leg" or something like that. To which I kinda gave it a pass because that might be something actual humans might say to lighten the mood a bit after a heavy conversation like that. But the rest was just .... I agree with one of the comments. Thor is the most tragic hero of them all given what he has lost, and they want us to laugh at him.

[@kbcarroll]

Taika rescued Ragnarok. And Taika was THE PROBLEM with Love and Thunder.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

If you liked this you should go check out my REVIEW for Thor love and thunder

[@liammcnulty1987]

Thor - suffered more hardships than all other MCU characters but he's made to be a laughing stock. Wanda - lost fake family. Most affected character and portrayed sympathetically Jane and Valkyrie - stunning and brave

[@robinnandtheprophett]

didn't jane get cancer?

[@danninmatthews5640]

Wanda is a pathetic villain while Jane and Valkyrie are just twits.

[@Us3r739]

@@robinnandtheprophett oh my god! She got cancer? So tragic

[@thephoenix4093]

@@Us3r739 it IS tragic. otherwise might as well tell that to real people who died from cancer like she did.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@thephoenix4093 , I laugh at everyone equally because either everyone should be mocked and ridiculed, or no one should be mocked and ridiculed because you can’t make standards on who should and shouldn’t be mocked because comedy is supposed to make fun of the absurdity of the world, and it’s not supposed to be “inclusive” hence why anime and manga are doing well successfully while entertainment in the West is failing epically.

[@animaloverload7465]

Let's take a moment to really appreciate the men Natalie Portman has destroyed. 1. Thor 2. Anakin 3. Leon the Professional

[@nazrulaqmar4891]

5. Bully Maguire

[@TeamStudNation1280]

@@nazrulaqmar4891 Bully Maguire > Jane Foster

[@Mohagnito94]

Don't you mean Natalie PortPerson?

[@pauperslament3467]

The most tragic was Leon. He'd have grown old and died if it weren't for that meddling Portperson.

[@TeamStudNation1280]

@@pauperslament3467 why do people hate her character again? I never watched the second Thor movie or this one that just came out

[@RobertE006]

She went to a city of Gods and never thought of curing her cancer

[@BerylLx]

I started rooting for Gorr when he had his scene with the asgardian kids. Really appreciate the attempt at adapting Gorr's personality and Christian Bale truly does shine despite the lazily put together look of Gorr the God Butcher.

[@amorfati4927]

There’s no debate that he is an actor that seems to always (at least almost always) really care about his craft and it shows. Definitely agree that as far as looks… that isn’t Gorr. However, like some other people have said, it’s possible the way contracts are and stuff there might be a certain amount of actual face time written in or something. Hard to really know. Still a shame that the look is off.

[@isolinear9836]

It was no surprise the Juice* at Disney made Gorr "White". I think I got bored in the early 2000s when the Juice* and Come-you-mists screamed that it was "racist" to depict the Orcs in Lord of the Rings: Fellowship as "Block*" and "Sallow-Skinned" (even though that's the way Tolkien wrote it because he had eyes and knew about "Block Culture" and "Block* Speech"). Which is why they changed Orcs in the "Two Towers" from "Black" to "White" using CGI. I remember thinking "This looks a bit motley". A few years later, I realized "Oh, THAT'S why they did this!". Same reason why they made the "Dark Elves" look "White" in Thor: Dark World, all the way back to why they tried to pretend most of the crimes in America being made by "Whites" in the TV series COPS as the years went on (The majority of crimes, especially violent crimes like murder, rape, assault, etc, are committed by "Blocks*, and the VAST majority of such crimes are committed by "Not-Whites*").

[@DangleSan]

Can someone explain to me aside from the color pattern of the character Gorr in the comics why did they have Christian Bale slim down? I don’t understand that design choice why not have him be muscular like he was in Batman?

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

What? Gorr literally looks creepy as crap, his look gets the job done, whats so "lazy" about it? I may have didnt read his comics but his look is anything but lazy, dont start whining about some stupid color

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@isolinear9836 If youre saying a characters bad and the higher ups at Disney "wanted to make him like that"bcuz of their color, you really need to touch some dirt more

[@williamanderson7594]

One thing I will give them is that they actually killed Jane Foster. While she has no grief over her cancer, at least they did what the comic couldn't and didn't cheap out in that regard.

[@bhanuraja6479]

But they showed her in Valhalla and her chance of returning is high,sadly😑

[@shayla106]

@@bhanuraja6479 We all know death means nothing when it comes to a woke evil company.

[@queeslavsal4318]

I think she will return as Valkyrie

[@afattori316]

In the multiverse any death is meaningless.

[@bhanuraja6479]

@@shayla106 Agreed 👍

[@zackreynolds21]

If Taika directed Endgame, he probably would’ve added a sound effect after Tony died to make it known that he shit himself. You know, because “comedy” and stuff

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Endgame ifself had a lot of jokes but if it was directed by Taika he will probably eliminated the emotional moments too. Imagine a Thanos telling cringe jokes and farting in the battlefield

[@sebastiangamboa4586]

@@arturocastroverde3349 if endgame would have been directed by taika, thanos would be playing fortnite in his ship and after tony's dead, everyone would be telling jokes and shit

[@Mr_Cinematic]

If you liked this you should go check out my REVIEW for Thor love and thunder

[@antonissamp6654]

If Waititi wrote Endgame, Peper, sorry female Iron-Man, sorry just Iron-Man, would have died in the end😂

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Endgame the Director's Cut (The Cheese)

[@Wolffman109]

4:25 Why couldn't Wanda just go to Eternity to revive Billy and Tommy? Are you trying to tell me that the Darkhold didn't even mention that in passing?

[@Hidacal]

The darkhold is a evil thing with its own will that tricks people into some evil shit by offering vaguely what they want. In basically every depiction of the book in any medium. Its not *trying* to help Wanda. But broadly speaking, this is a common problem for all long running series/movies, where the need to up the stakes and introduce new problems and solutions, make previous look dumb and inconstant.

[@attackerangel2951]

Wouldn't Thanos have done the same?

[@Wolffman109]

@@attackerangel2951 Odds are, he might not have known. He was focused on the Infinity Stones; there's no evidence that he possessed any knowledge of Eternity.

[@TheSecondVersion]

"This is the Necro Sword, an ancient weapon that can kill gods" ...so, like pretty much every normal weapon we've seen in Thor movies before?

[@korawitbuttramee618]

Necrosword not being Symbiote really takes away why it is a unique artifact. Then again, no way Avi Arad give Knull and Symbiote to Marvel since he fuckin hates Kevin Feige, and apparently, the feeling is mutual.

[@Shome2049]

@@korawitbuttramee618 Kevin feige is overrated, He got lucky with phase 1-3 because he worked with good artists.

[@russgilbert]

It allowed a regular guy to kill gods. Any weapon works if you’re already a God, but not for just regular people.

[@rey_8834]

@@Shome2049 idk, i mean there were certainly a lot more checks and balances with everything they released back then. maybe it’s that he had better people around him, or maybe it’s that he has so much going on now that he can’t focus energy into any one project at a time

[@tajanisc]

Getting the pluses out of the way: 1. Fatherhood is portrayed well 2. Gorr’s wish makes sense ( for clarification; the daughter one if you ignore everything else) 3. Christian Bale Blasting through flaws here: 1. The one wish to rule them all 2. Gorr’s concept is wasted 3. Jane shouldn’t be worthy 4. Mjolnir would’ve went to Thor 5. Zeus would’ve taken the wish 6. Odin would’ve take the wish 7. The gods would’ve fucking helped for their own survival 8. Valkyrie 9. Tonal imbalance 10. Hela would’ve taken the wish 11. Even if Thor just learned about it, he would’ve easily gone for it 12. Jane’s cancer is wasted 13. Jane and Thor’s relationship is extremely underdeveloped 14. Stop doing corruption and motivations in your villains (clarifying simultaneously). If the villain is corrupted, save them. If the villain is evil, fight them. 15. Mini Thors Keep it going

[@PunksterOS]

16: Valkyrie I know you have Valkyrie in your list already but she is such an annoying See You Next Tuesday, it is worth mentioning again.

[@yourmum69_420]

gorr's original wish makes less than 0 sense

[@silverscorpio24]

17. Korg

[@tajanisc]

@@yourmum69_420 not the original, him choosing his daughter is a nice moment in isolation if you ignore literally everything else leading to it

[@newtpondskipper]

18. Valkyrie. Can't say how much she sucks the life out of a scene enough.

[@BigSisterNeko]

I’m kinda glad Tessa Thompson’s star is starting to fade. Hollywood tried too hard in shoving her down everyone’s throats as the token (yeah I said it) stoic, strong, no nonsense, ambiguously brown, female lead/sidekick. Frankly, I believe they tried to tie her to Hemsworth like they’re buddies in real life, and it didn’t work. Hopefully, she can get some lessons and be a better actor.

[@stacyfearlicia]

how is it being shoved down your throat if you don’t have to watch anything she’s in ❄️

[@kiwidiesel]

" Hopefully, she can get some lessons and be a better actor. " Nah I think that pegasus has already flown the coop.

[@Willowy13]

She is just an one note wonder. She reminds of Elisa Dushku (Faith from Buffy The Vampire Slayer). No emotion in the face. The girl that played Monica Rambeau was way better, despite the non sense of Wanda's ending.

[@LoganRonin-vn2we]

I don't. Hope she goes back to the hole of ostracism that she shouldn't have never left. A cardboard cutout has more emotional range than her.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

Not gonna happen

[@OR56]

Natalie Portperson actually bulked up for the role of Jane. So most of her muscles were real. Maybe.

[@BumMcFluff]

I really can't summon the energy to care about her any more. Hollywood is no longer about good stories and interesting characters.

[@OR56]

@@BumMcFluff same

[@82dorrin]

To be fair, the Greek gods acting like sophomoric pricks who like messing with people is pretty accurate to how they were in Greek Mythology

[@reallyhimongod]

But Zeus being one shotted even by Thor is still pretty absurd..

[@TattedPope]

@@reallyhimongod well, wasn’t technically one shotted he’s still alive

[@kuntumanurag4328]

@@TattedPope ur telling me he cant catch his own lighting bolt

[@NormanOz]

@@kuntumanurag4328 lol, probably why it didn't kill him. Coz it's his own weapon.

[@sussyangel7492]

@@reallyhimongod Because Russell Crowe gets a one hit in some of his movies like Noah, Les Miserables, Man of Steel, Gladiator, and then Thor: Love and Thunder. That explains why he falls like crap in that movie.

[@ifyifylaza]

“A winning hand can only be played so many times”. So true, I wish more writers in the industry had the foresight to create stories that furthers the franchise’s overall story/goal instead of writing/creating easy cash grabs with minimal effort.

[@dll7658]

Honestly, I think creating good writing for Thor is much more likely than the execs approving it - pretty sure the higher ups want something to project to us, and with power comes reign to choosing the stories to show

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯

[@sanguine2552]

I mean I actually was pretty entertained by this one. It’s was just a childish comedy. Nothing wrong with that

[@filipgasic2642]

@@sanguine2552 plenty of wrong because that's not the genre this movies should be about and this characters are not comedy characters

[@Parasiteve]

what needs to happen, thats happening too slowly if you ask me, is everyone needs to stop seeing/paying for these movies so THEY get the hint we dont want it and maybe they'll change their tude or they'll just further show us why not to like them anymore with anger and forced things.

[@dlwlrma177]

Kind of weird how we’re expected to sympathise with characters like Wanda and Yelena but Thor lost almost everyone dear to him and was made into a joke. He also has to raise the daughter of the man that indirectly got the love of his life killed, handing over his axe to her while he uses a vandalised Mjolnir. The goddamn audacity for Marvel to write “Thor will return” at the end of the film too.

[@ShadowSonic2]

Thor got to live centuries in luxury. Yelena and Wanda had nothing.

[@nwing07__]

@@ShadowSonic2 the point isn't towards wealth/poverty life upbringing. it's dealing with the loss of family.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@nwing07__ And Yelena and Wanda haven't suffered at all, according to you? Thor had a far happier life for centuries before anything happened. They never had anything to be happy about

[@nwing07__]

@@ShadowSonic2 What part of family loss do you not understand? Thor's past life has nothing to do with it, he could have been an Asgardian energy billionaire conglomerate if it so pleases you. The post is making a sympathy comparison between Wanda + Yelena and Thor. He's referring to loved ones they have lost. How they are DEALING with it. A little thing called character development for Thor which is something that Taika Waititi has completely bastardized. Are you getting it?

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@nwing07__ Thor's past life is why it's treated differently, he lived a luxurious life beforehand while Wanda and Yelena didn't. Plus, their pain started at childhood while Thor was already an adult when his losses started so he was better suited to accepting loss. People are trying to say Wanda and Yelena deserve no sympathy at all and only Thor does.

[@KennyTC63]

I can't believe that Hemsworth actually agreed to doing this movie after he read the script!!

[@seastar-qw2qg]

Money talks

[@alexgillis9446]

That's hilarious. What script!!??

[@2bitnerd]

I nearly left the theater twice watching it. The theater I was in was dead silent through every joke - no one thought this was funny. That's the worst criticism I can think of - it just wasn't funny.

[@violinmke]

Yeah. No buzz of amused people here in my theatre either. Good point.

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

I liked the goats best characters, but everything else got me a chuckle or a smile. The goats are the only made me laugh and that was when they first introduced and on the ship.

[@charlesws7825]

So basically this is Amy Schumer...in movie form.

[@FirstnameLastname-yc2mt]

Dunno what theater you were at, but the one i was at there were plenty of laughs. The movie overall might not have been too good with the inconsistent tone and some plot points But the jokes were hittin tho 🤷

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mt Same many people laughed but it wasn’t serious enough like Thor is suppose to be badass but he feels like another Spider-Man in terms of the vibes. Like spider man is suppose to give off an awkward vibe cause he is a teenager, but Thor suppose to be a badass god and we do see that but it feels overshadowed by the amount of humor

[@bio-weaponn5576]

When you mentioned how everything in this movie is treated like a joke, you pretty much just described how Disney treats all its bought IPs in a nutshell.

[@jamesduncan6729]

Yep, so true 👍🏻

[@Matt-gw5dp]

@@jamesduncan6729 there were at least 10 jokes in every single scene, even right after touchful moments.. i got so tired of it. I thought i was watching friends or something

[@littlen8279]

Now I'm terrified of what they might do to Daredevil

[@jamesduncan6729]

@@Matt-gw5dp Yeah I noticed that. It's just groan worthy. Do they think people are actually laughing at these quips and jokes? I didn't laugh once, I didn't even pass any air through my nose in a tiny chuckle. I'm totally over it

[@iZehta]

At this point Disney is a middle schooler with their parents credit card. Buying things that look cool and have good history and then having absolutely no idea what to do with it besides make jokes appropriate for their mental age

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

This whole movie is Taika Waititi literally saying, "I'm so funny right mates? I'M SO FUNNY RIGHT?!!!" for two hours straight.

[@idipped2521]

He said he's gonna "ruin star wars" too. Like it can't get any worse

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

His schtick has gotten old

[@blyat8832]

Basically, yeah. But are you surprised? That's all the MCU films have been past the black panther and civil war

[@scribbles1424]

Directors like him are given too much leeway while talented directors for other films have the corporate leash.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I mean he did it well on Free Guy and Jojo Rabbit. That guy is just a weirdo in general even has a threesome with Tessa Thompson and Rita Ora.

[@ryechuss1557]

You deserve an award for enduring this film. I felt like the film was mocking me for watching it. Like the director was making it as crap as possible to see how far he could push people before they realised a joke was being played on them.

[@DmonHiro]

I'm so shocked. What the hell happened to the Thor from the first movie? Intelligent, wise, a bit socially awkward around humans, but an actual functioning male hero.

[@user.LCW01]

Yeah tbh I miss Shakespearean Thor from the first movie. His social awkwardness around other people and not really fitting in with the humans at the time because he was raised differently, him not reeling in the grief at first that he was basically kicked out of his home. Him being lost and confused with the world, it was very interesting. His good heart and subtle good deeds were really nice and added a lot to the character. I know a lot of people don't like the first two Thor films, but I thought those were excellent enough in adding ground and weight to the characters and the world around them.

[@jasonpypsaeris4643]

Well since everyone loved ragnarok and all the jokes and funnies in there what did you expect Disney to do go back to serious Thor. I for one hated ragnarok he lost so much in that film. Not to mention his mother in the previous and then now his father as well as his home planet, as well as his dear friends, and all he does is joke about things. Ragnarok sucked for Thor’s character. He barely grieved for any of his losses in that movie

[@cormacdunnick5474]

I didn’t think people enjoyed the first movie 💀💀💀

[@ecksluss]

lmao. Whats with the "male" hero? Like, you went out of your way to say "male" when you could have just said, "an actual fucking hero"

[@snailthelostcow63]

@@jasonpypsaeris4643 Eh, Ragnarok was alright. I see it more as the "getting back stronger" trope, fitting for the "hero" Thor. He finally broke down in Infinity War and Endgame, finally showing the "human" Thor and thank God they did that

[@eddietalley534]

The ending should’ve had a big battle with Gorr taking out a lot of the gods in the god planet Zeus was in. I just feel like they didn’t make Gorr seem like a huge threat I never felt worried for Thor at all.

[@somebody6246]

Exactly man, they really wasted a cool character

[@dryames4319]

And a really good actor.

[@beans301]

did the same thing with a few of the villains. not many losses or even hard losses.

[@somebody6246]

@@beans301 it honestly just feels like Hollywood has weakened its villains. There are nearly no exciting or rewarding hero victories anymore. And stories just get watered down out of laziness. The weight behind stories are just gone it seems

[@hallakazam]

They could've easly made this movie to be about coming to terms with morality. Gorr should've fought and killed one or a few gods so that the other gods to actually start to worry about their lifes.

[@Connor-fr5cn]

I'll die on the hill that IW thor was peak Thor. He made jokes, but wasn't a clown. He was focused, angry, driven, and dedicated to getting revenge for his people and losses. This is what happens when you try to just make the "highlights" of a character, their entire character

[@J1283-s1k]

Infinity War Thor was the first time I really felt like people saw Thor as a true God, not some alien being, not a boring character, but an out and out Godly presence in the MCU. And then they butchered him in Endgame, which (in my opinion) even more than Ragnarok, continued to open the door to dreck like this movie. In Infinity War, he was badass, he was a soldier of fortune, he was on a mission of revenge. Yet here he's a dopey, bumbling, stuttering, 30 IQ moron, who exhausts everyone around him (the Guardians multiple times share a look of exasperation at him, like when he goes on a tangent then smashes the temple they were supposed to protect or when he gets told off by the kids for being completely aloof and not helping, or when he falls into the New Asgard pillar and everyone looks at him in dismay). Christ this movie was an abomination.

[@tbducky4136]

I said the same, that was the first time I ever went “now THAT is Thor!” Aside from the first movie, where Thor was clearly super powerful(single handedly taking out hundreds of frost giants, an ripping through the destroyer like it was nothing)

[@pancholopez8829]

Honestly I feel like IW is a good way to end the MCU and I'll die on that hill

[@slashtitan1035]

Same exact situation with Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean 5. I feel like that movie started this ongoing trend Disney has been doing where they take a beloved male lead character and turn him into a complete idiot and have the woman lead wear the pants and carry the film.

[@FrancistheBrave]

@@pancholopez8829 yup 👍🏿

[@spideydew20]

You absolutely nailed this review, and the terrible job that Jokey Waititi did with this movie.

[@DragonmanX90]

Why does Disney/Marvel feel like there's no consequence for doing what they've done with Thor? They humiliate him whenever possible, they constantly reset his character growth and motivation to his most immature and incompetent. Thor is literally one of the most powerful, most experienced, and genuinely likeable heroes in all of Marvel; and he gets utterly shafted in almost every movie he has a role in after Dark World! It keeps happening and no one's going to want to get invested in the character at all if he gets restored to factory settings every movie and treated like a goddamned joke.

[@RhetoricalMuse]

You say that...look at the RT public rating.

[@HisDivineShado]

I think people realized Chris Hemsworth is more than just a pretty face and he actually has good comedic timing and now they've overdone it.

[@ez6888]

After Dark World? Lol honestly, all the Thor movies have been lackluster. All 4 of them and he parts in the ensemble movies are usually bleh as well. The MCU has failed Thor

[@XxFoguinhoxX]

I disagree, in my OPINION Thor is a mythical hero, and while his character growth is basically a circle, it fits his Norse background. If it was the same for iron-man then I would have a problem, but it's Thor, and in my OPINION every character doesn't have to have the same story before they die... I can honestly say that you're short sighted in your attempt at philosophy, and you can tell me I'm wrong with your weak and non-existent arguments...

[@seyio1717]

@@XxFoguinhoxX you really are Justifying Lazy writing

[@CAMELOT331]

I've noticed that everything has ONLY male nudity now. I was watching something recently and it full on showed a close up of a PP every episode. But when a woman's clothes were off. It would conveniently cover her with blankets or something. I miss 80's slasher films.

[@Mr_Mistah]

I wonder why. Like who'd be offended by this? Twitter? Well of course Twitter would be offended but surely the common person wouldn't care

[@MALICEM12]

Yeah, on top of that when men are naked or raped or hit in the balls it's just a joke. But women basically never have two of those things happen and the third is often used as a justification for them to do whatever they want afterward.

[@andyrsonx2182]

This is exactly I barely watch anything these days. You can be perfectly enjoying something & boom here’s some dudes cheeks. I don’t wanna see that sh*t

[@ecfatty6002]

Pps are ugly, titties are beautiful...bad move putting the ugliest thing in a film

[@njscoundrel1786]

That's the '#metoo' effect in Hollywood. Overcorrect by making everything gay now. It's punishment for straight men.

[@renegade6578]

The biggest plot twist was Jane not replacing Thor lmfao, I'm still in shock they had the balls to kill her off.

[@jedhayman3937]

Well if you read the comic you’d know that was gonna happen.

[@dangazobiton9774]

@@jedhayman3937 that's not an indication or prediction of anything, directors and writers routinely ignore and defile original sources in order to shoehorn their own message.

[@A_S_K_95]

I really thought THOR will magically take her cancer and die off. and Then Tessa and Portman will be having fun conversation about how idiotic THOR was on post credit scene.

[@pierce7992]

Yeah but keeping her alive will murder the other super hero movies -1 is still good

[@afelias]

They couldn't afford to keep CGI-ng her arms, and she refused to work out for the role, so they canned the idea I assume

[@rickradix6174]

30 minutes into this, I paused it and looked up this review. Which is much more entertaining. You saved 1 hour and 30 minutes of my life. Thanks. Now go away.

[@jamescoffey4679]

The only thing I wanted to mention was that Jane could wield Mjolnir only because Thor accidentally put an enchantment on it to “protect her”. Other than that, I agree with most of this.

[@fz.doomsday500doomed9]

Makes no sense don’t you think it being Thor’s hammer he would have known that form the beginning?

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

That's good to know. I watched the film and couldn't figure out why Jane was worthy. Turns out she's not worthy.

[@fz.doomsday500doomed9]

@@jeremiahnoar7504 she’s unworthy of coming up with a good caught phrase. “Eat MY HAMMER” fucken lame it deserves the worse phrase of the century title.

[@Necro_fury]

yeah was a tiny scene of him drunkly/loving say to mjolnir to watch out for her

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

Pretty ridiculous that he’d “accidentally” place an enchantment to protect his ex gf, considering that enchantments, spells, and magic of all kinds have always been said to be very, very difficult to learn and preform in previous movies. Then, Thor apparently places a spell on accident, and spider man’s best friend just so happens to be like doctor strange and uses his powers perfectly in one night. Great stuff.

[@TheSecondVersion]

Also didn't Korg say he had two dads in this movie... ...even though in Thor: Ragnarok he said he had a mom (who had a boyfriend, whom he hates.)

[@gabejq]

why isn’t this comment more popular? i forgot about that

[@meti326]

Hahaha that Was Waitit's Movie and even he forgot that

[@brettfeggestad12]

This movie felt very self masturbatory like you already write , direct and play a character in the movie and then he gets like 15 minutes in total of narration throughout it like get over yourself I’m so fucking sick of hearing that accent now

[@crestraizn]

Good ol’ Disney pushing the message no matter what the character’s background used to be.

[@nixvex]

People can have parental figures who aren’t their biological parents. Some people refer to their step parent as just ‘mom’ or ‘dad’. So the info in each film doesn’t necessarily contradict the other.

[@ZonnexNecton]

"Portperson". I'm dead lol Oh and Disney is censoring Slave Leia, yet approve butt naked Thor. Double standard much.

[@obiwanjaco]

How are they censoring It? I didn't hear about it

[@ZonnexNecton]

@@obiwanjaco They removed Return of the Jedi Leia and replaced it with Empire Strikes Back Leia for the T-Shirt merchandise.

[@thothheartmaat2833]

nude males are comedy and nude females are oppression.. ps, make a movie of that comic called bitch planet.. theres a very interesting shower scene..

[@originalsmountup2019]

Cgi Natalie portperson 🤣🤣

[@heilzorak64]

Thor is an inverted ftm anyways, so lol

[@shagrat47]

The fact Christian Bale portrayed Gorr so awesome, made the bad jokes they forced on Hemsworth and his fellow actors so much more obvious. Where Bale created fantastic drama, as the antagonist, Thor/Odin and his posse had to play more like a caricature of their former selfs. I suppose they weren't happy how their roles turned out, either.