No, Ahsoka Won't Save Star Wars

[@PatstarDeluxe]

Must have been hard to survive a lightsaber through the stomach? Actually, it was super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Lightsaber wounds through the stomach are TIGHT!

[@rctakedown9595]

Wow wow wow. Wow.

[@adammac125]

I'm going to need you to get alllll the way off my back about lightsaber injuries

[@WATCHMYCLIPSZ]

Aha COMEDY!

[@RockTheEternal]

"You forgot about lightsaber lethality?-" '-I forgot about lightsaber lethality'

[@LetsReadPodcast]

You could have Reddit write the next episode, with each top voted comment determining the next plot point. And I think it’d be more cohesive

[@Lilith_Harbinger]

At the very least it'd be more entertaining

[@badluck9749]

Now THAT would be real art. Most likely completely insane, but still.

[@GeneralBlorp]

Ya cuz every character would be contemplating their gender suddenly 😅

[@toxogandhi]

Quoth the philosopher Hetfield, "Sad but true, yeah!" (Is it a Het quote without a "Yeah", a true Hetfield quote?)

[@masilomoshesh1475]

​@@badluck9749Can't be any more insane than what Disney have done to this franchise.

[@fl1bble]

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of disney's ability to ruin literally everything they look at

[@djwill4986]

Instead of a planet destroying laser, it’s a beam that turns everything into the worst elements of wokeism

[@knightmare_edits]

Disney destroyed the Marvel Multiverse and the Star Wars timeline. Lord Mickey is an Omniversal threat indeed.

[@JonSnow-YThandle]

Well said😂

[@lordderpington8021]

@@knightmare_edits oy vey

[@aamirrazak3467]

Indeed, Disneys ability to destroy puts Sidious to shame

[@chthulu27]

What's so sad is that the Witches of Dathomir were part of the extended universe. They still used the force, but the super creepy darkside version that was so messed up, they even scared EMPEROR PALPATINE. He legit would not go near their planet and refused to make any moves against them. They are THAT creepy and evil.

[@def3ndr887]

Hence the reason Grevious was sent to carry out the genocide on the cult, and also Dooku being given space herpes from them but we don’t talk about that.

[@chthulu27]

@@def3ndr887 , ooh, I didn't know about those. Where is that in the extended universe?

[@MrTurok999]

@@chthulu27 Grevious massacre of the Night Sisters happens during the Clone Wars TV series, not sure which season, one of the later ones I believe. As for Dooku's space herpes, uhh I'm drawing a blank there.

[@jv-man3698]

Love how Disney made the EU non canon and then starts poaching stories from it. Hypocritical a holes

[@MajorDryhole]

@@jv-man3698 Yeah they did it from the start, Kylo Ren is just shitty version of Jacen Solo from EU right?

[@Flaris]

I had no idea that Qui Gon could have just walked off his injury without any trouble. Guess he was really tired of being alive.

[@rpullins]

So I guess when women get stab with lightsaber it has no affect on them but a man dies from it. This Shit is crazy.

[@dihatzhs]

@@rpullins If Qui Gon was also a strong independent and sovereign woman he wouldve been fine,sucks for him i guess

[@bliskin8847]

He force exhausted himself like Luke.

[@martynadams754]

Plot twist - it was actually Obi-Wan that killed him. He wasn't cradling his dying Master, he was doing the same move Commodus did to his dad Marcus Aurelius in Gladiator!

[@whoanito]

Maybe he was sad. Thanks to Amidala we know that's lethal in Star Wars universe.

[@johnmccall4528]

Qui Gon is seriously not amused by the number of people who keep surviving otherwise fatal lightsaber wounds.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Back in Episode 1 they stuck a lightsabre into a metal security door and melted the whole thing to slag. Now you can stick one into a human being and it just makes them tingle a little bit.

[@TehJumpingJawa]

Damn straight! I can't wait to see @CharlieHopkinson 's Ahsoka skits.

[@RexKing-lc1tf]

Pay attention to the wounds, Qui-Gon was hit straight through the center into his spinal cord, Sabine was only hit through her side abdomen were not much critical damage can be caused

[@mertc8050]

​@@RexKing-lc1tfthat and dude got left in the ground to die fir like 15 20 min

[@LeoH3L1]

@@RexKing-lc1tf Oh are you a surgeon or doctor?

[@indepthliterature]

I love how drinker points how lethal lightsabers are and used to be in star wars. Whenever we had a good lightsaber duel back in the day we knew stuff was about to go down and we were either going to see beloved characters live or die or be seriously wounded and now its just a minor injury, which doesnt help us to be invested and devalues the suspense when theres lightsabers every other scene

[@TheCrimsonSpork]

Because those are current-year non-binary tickle-sabers

[@user-vl8sh7ih8c]

Lightsaber wound? Barely an inconvenience. Funny how Disney lightsabers don't kill females in Disney S. W. Guess female Disney characters are just tougher than 2ft thick metal doors. So dumb!

[@travishillsthedarkangelbun504]

Agree

[@Stakex]

In fairness, Luke losing his hand wasn't really a serious wound. He had a new hand and was good as new faster than Sabine recovered in episode 2. The difference is that Lucas generally made sure if a character was going to survive a fight, they'd sustain plausibly survivable wounds that still demonstrated how dangerous lightsabers were. Maul would be the exception but only because Lucas brought him back to life after the fact. He'd never have written for a character get rammed through with a lightsaber only to walk it off, since that would cheapen lightsabers as a weapon. Having them cut someone's hand off in a flash, while not fatal and easily repairable in the SW universe, highlighted the dangers of the weapon.

[@solastro5595]

Now we know we gotta double tap and chop the head off.

[@Squirrel_Cat]

When I first saw Sabine get skewered by a lightsaber, I was legitimately impressed with their decision to take her out and for a moment, I forgot Disney was producing the show. Queue the first 10 minutes of Ep 2 and I was like _NEVERMIND._

[@sevenmileshome]

That was the only thing that could have saved that first episode, killing Sabine. Maybe they considered it and thats why Sabine's role is diminished and awkward in the next few episodes. Also probably why she "disappeared" on the imperial ship, they ran out of ideas for her.

[@offchance789]

I was pissed. In the very first scenes of episode I, Qui-gon is cutting through a METER THICK durasteel security bulkhead, WITH HIS LIGHTSABER!!!! A quick swish and Sabine is two instead of one. So fucking stupid.

[@rhaelfixer2584]

​@@offchance789Exactly. It boggles my mind that there are still people saying Sabine survived made sense because she got stab on non vital areas.

[@Thorn_416]

yeah as hot as it is, as soon as she got stabbed and her knees buckled under her, the cut would have carried on to her shoulder and out @@rhaelfixer2584

[@adampkalb]

Speaking of Disney, I am very surprised that most people do not get this mad at Amphibia for not taking out Marcy Wu's life after King Andrias stabbed her. True Colors began with Sprig Plantar warning us about _intense final scenes_ because the intense final scene in question was King Andrias stabbing Marcy with his fiery sword. Plenty of kids and even adults who watched it were scared and saddened that one of the three Calamity Box girls who was central to the main plot, was killed off on the Season 2 cliffhanger ending. The next episode, Anne Boonchuy is just as worried as all of us about Marcy's death, and denies that she is actually dead. Six episodes later in Olivia and Yunan, Marcy is alive again in the rejuvenation chamber because King Andrias has other evil plans by connecting her mind to The Core. I guess the only reason why almost nobody is upset about Marcy's sudden un-death is because Season 3 of Amphibia found a more meaningful role for her to justify keeping Marcy alive, than what Ahsoka did with Sabine Wren. At the end of Season 3 of Amphibia, all three Calamity Box girls cry, reunite and reconcile for the third time in All In (the first time was in The Third Temple, the second time was in Battle of the Bands). In The Hardest Thing, they fight The Core as a team until Anne alone sacrifices her life to take out The Core. Literally 5 minutes later into that episode, the Calamity Guardian allows Anne to continue living a full life so she can keep improving herself until she is truly worthy of becoming the new Guardian of the Calamity Crystals, and ascending to that higher plane of existence at the end of her life. Anne, Marcy and Sasha say goodbye to all of their friends from Amphibia, and use the last of the Calamity Crystals' power to portal home to their families. Are you happy that Amphibia ended this way, with Anne and her friends permanently parting ways with Amphibia to continue living in their home world, or did you prefer for Amphibia to have a darker ending where Marcy and Sasha just had to live the rest of their lives with Anne already dead?

[@joshg.6315]

“Why destroy a planet when we can destroy an entire universe?” -Disney Star Wars

[@augustinvangeebergen3098]

"Why destroy an entire universe when you can destroy all the universes you own?" -Disney

[@adrianoippolito1999]

@@augustinvangeebergen3098 Interesting how this mirrors the in universe Imperial operation cinder where after the death of the emperor the empire decides to destroy a bunch of their own loyalist planets for... reasons. Disney canon is so mind numbingly stupid

[@easygrin1127]

Multiple universes... Even those they dont own. With the DC universe self destroying twice in a row because they desperatly they wanted to copy Marvel.

[@DeuceGenius]

😂

[@Soup-man]

I mean the first thing that they did was kill the entire EU. So that's pretty much exactly what they did.

[@luurchify]

I missed the days of the clone wars where Ahsoka showed emotion and had a personality

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

And was sexy on top of it all.

[@mrao9068]

Fr tho. I think the people that only watch the live action shows are missing that Ahsoka was genuinely a really well written and interesting "strong female". The live action show loses that fun personality and literally feels like a bad fanfic

[@orcinusrex]

​@@mrao9068this this this. A thousand times, this! All of the Disney/Marvel/Star Wars shows feel like badly written self insert fanfics

[@homerplatius4678]

I miss the time when Star Wars wasn’t anime and cringe

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

@@mrao9068 They had quality writer and Blackrock (evil corporation, main share of Disney today) had no influence on those writers. PLUS they had respect for their audience and wanted to please them PLUS the writers genuinely loved Ashoka and wanted to make her look good for every listener's. Men and Women with tremendous success. You act with felinity AND be strong and have depth even if you don't copy paste male behaviors.

[@Humphking]

I just wanna say RIP Ray Stevenson, he could do serious drama, action, and he had great comedy chops.

[@MrThebigcheese75]

Hard to believe he is no longer with us, now to watch Rome again.

[@chadwickwilliams7238]

Seriously. He always had the chops of a leading man but he did such good character work.

[@williamsn411]

Agreed. He was great in Punisher: Warzone and Rome.

[@fwhitey7686]

To his credit here he came across as a perfect old school Jedi knight. Refined, measured, almost graceful, everything I grew up in the 80’s thinking a Jedi knight was supposed to be.

[@TimJBucci]

Blackbeard in Black Sails.

[@CammieRacing]

I used to love writing stories, but as I got older I stopped because I'd write myself into situations that required a character to do something stupid for something to happen...and even in my teens I knew it was crap and I stopped writing. If only these writers did the same.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

That’s why I wrote sci fi/military stories as a teen. No need to prop up characters when they are just regular people stuck in war. For my writing class I wrote a story about a joint Chinese/south East Asian regiment of the CCP holding out in the Himalayan mountains against a high tech American/European invasion. No characters need to do anything silly to progress the plot. Logistics and tactics determine how the story goes. My main character dies for nothing. Just a regular low class soldier.

[@CammieRacing]

literally the same but it was a future scifi space war so I didn't have to explain politics. But with ''somehow Palpatine returned'' being cinema worthy writing now...I probably could've got my story greenlit by netflix.@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

[@surajganiger2837]

​@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 That.. actually sounds like a good read. Do you still have it?

[@whatNtarnation90]

Funny part is, now that AI is so good, you could easily get around shit like that with AI's help.... Why these writers don't do the same when they clearly have a lack of talent is mind boggling.

[@surajganiger2837]

true ​@@whatNtarnation90 but its really really easy to find out and it takes a LOT of time to generate something even nominally userful (at least w current ai)

[@AngryBoozer]

Witchcraft has been a thing in SW for a good while now, actually. Dathomir or whatever its called, where Darth Maul came from had a whole bunch of witches. I’m more pissed that they turned the chirpy, upbeat and tragically damaged Ahsoka into a plank of wood…

[@Thecatbehindtheslaughtering]

Fr, on the god

[@dodopod]

Pointless lore dump: Witches in Star Wars are originally from the 2nd Ewoks movie, so 1985. The Witches of Dathomir were introduced in the 1994 book The Courtship of Princess Leia, which also introduced the Nightsisters (the Sith to the Witches' Jedi). The original witch from the Ewok movie was retconned to be a Nightsister, soon after. The Clone Wars majorly changed the way the Dathomir Witches worked, ignoring the fact that non-Nightsister witches existed, changing Maul and Ventress' homeworlds to Dathomir, and making Dathomiri into half-Human half-Zabraks. This is, of course, the version of the witches that was imported into Disney canon.

[@Memein4k]

@@dodopod I was gonna writer that but it wasn’t really something that makes or breaks it. I agree is entertaining but not great. It does have the faults drinker said. However performance can over look those faults. Which again this last two episodes doesn’t really have but it could change and will see if it does.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

​@@dodopodAnd their magic was based in the Dark Side of the Force, but I think The Clone Wars changed that.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Drinker is somewhat of a casual when it comes to Star Wars. He's only seen the movies.

[@WallJumpGaming]

My dad started watching Ahsoka yesterday. He fell asleep in the first 15 minutes of the first episode... He has been falling asleep so quickly with every star wars media thing for like a year. Literally a bloody lullaby

[@Spartacus114]

Tell your dad to stop being a cuck and watching nu Star Wars. Star Wars is dead

[@shockmesane4158]

Dad's falling asleep to mediocre media their family wants to watch but isn't so offensively bad that you need to change the channel is a tale as old as time. Need to sneak that sleep in where you can get it.

[@asm42]

I don't know if that's the measure of something's worth, my favorite album to sleep with is garage inc, disc 2, I was always out by blitzkrieg

[@JonCom3dy]

Me with every marvel and Star Wars show on Disney plus. Loki, I didn’t even last 15 minutes

[@JinnDante]

hahahahah same with my pops.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

*"Truly a character is only as smart as the person writing them."* - Based Critical Drinker

[@nagger8216]

lol Just wait until we get 5D chess master Thrawn. I can't wait for all the main characters to escape unscathed every time, making him look like a fucking clown in the process, only for him to say "It was all part of my plan" again. Edit: It was super obvious anyway, but I called it

[@jayone8891]

which is why I yearn for A.I

[@lindseycorcoran4875]

Who is he zooming in on while he says that line?

[@GregJamesMusic]

Oh boy. Where does that leave Thrawn?

[@SaveR6Siege]

Dude everyone knows this. "Air is invisible to the naked eye"... same thing

[@phantom_fox_blue4384]

Producer: How many women shall we have in this show? Director: Yes.

[@JCeeeeeee.]

🤣

[@mishynaofficial]

And they are all extremely boring.

[@Megalodon.666]

director probably thought about making animes with only girls.

[@dr.bright6272]

​@@mishynaofficialand all do the same pose whenever possible. Crossing their arms, it's the latest trend apparently

[@t-baglord65FixTF2]

Let’s all conveniently forget the fact these women have been here since 2014 in Rebels

[@kurtb8474]

Thank you for your assessment of the actor's performances, or lack of. I've noticed this in TV and movies for the 15 -20 years. Nobody acts anymore. They walk in front of the camera, say their lines and then go to their trailers until they're called to shoot another scene. A total lack of drama or personality. No interest for the audience.

[@PanaehaliTut]

Klint Eastwood was the one who promoted reading off the script and shooting just one take. Since it is usually good enough. But his films never seem to lack emotions or personality. I guess actors are not interested in acting anymore. Not with the scripts they get.

[@timkinss]

Drinker then went on to say he had to assume that was what they were asked to give. Not the actress's personal attitude, which is where you went. Watch it again.

[@musashidanmcgrath]

Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Band of Brothers, True Detective, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Fargo, all Tarantino and Coen Brothers films, etc. What have you been watching for the last 20 years?

[@YashinNashi]

@@PanaehaliTut I blame the directors, they reshoot and have this "strong" image in their heads and make the actors show that one and only emotion.

[@mynameiswritinwater]

@@timkinssyeah - just watch Secret Invasion (if you dare) and have a look at Emilia Clarke...in reality she has one of the most animate face (especially the eyebrows) on screen for the last half century... but definitely NOT in secret invasion. Because someone directing told her "look stoic and badass"

[@wwCs49]

“Maybe you’ll get a kick out of seeing these characters in live action” Nope. In fact, I absolutely hate it. The obsession with turning good animation into live action needs to go

[@marcogenovesi8570]

*bad live action

[@barbarabaker1457]

Agreed

[@wwCs49]

@@marcogenovesi8570 true, but even if Ahsoka was good I’d like it if animation got more respect. If animation is good it doesn’t need good live action afterward to be validated. If anything, Star Wars should be leaning even more into animation on the small screen instead of these shitty live action shows

[@marcogenovesi8570]

​@@wwCs49 that's an incredibly bad take. Oh yes I'm going to like literal trash if it's jingling keys that remind me of a better show. There is nothing that can save a bad show. Then yes it can also dig a deeper grave by disrespecting the past and the characters, but that's a pejorative, not something that can save it

[@wwCs49]

@@marcogenovesi8570 you must have misread my comment because I have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about…

[@lyravain6304]

Sabine has unlocked the ability to take Long Rests and fully heal her HP. Makes sense if the writer's sole contact with the world has been through video games. Also explains the long pauses. They are reading the dialogue options.

[@spiddy1335]

Its kinda like watching jumanji 2 except nobody references the all around video game logic and physics

[@lemuaschiks417]

Absolute fn legend

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

Well it is more the Sabine show then it is Ahsoka if you look at who has more screen time and who is more plot central

[@bl8388]

Amazing that a 3 inch diameter hole in the chest hits nothing vital. That sounds philosophical.

[@lyravain6304]

@@bl8388 it hit her HP pool. But if you expected a heart, I don't think she has one.

[@NATEHIGGERS97]

I am forever scarred by the profound mental retardation of the scene where sabine does a galaxy brain move and solves the map puzzle and turns out, it's an elementary sliding puzzle. I will never be able to remove that scene from my mind for the rest of my life.

[@Keys879]

Lmao, idiocracy: Star Wars edition

[@francoisregis2155]

Its just a new rubiks cube version

[@hez859]

Crazy, episode 4 was actually really really good.@@francoisregis2155

[@janpavel1107]

After Huyang who is supposed to be centuries old with vast knowledge wisdom and a super computer for a brain announces that he is at his wits end to crack this riddle😄 lol ridiculous screenwriting...

[@NATEHIGGERS97]

@@janpavel1107 in later episodes they say huyang knew how to solve it but wanted ahsoka to bring Sabine along. Come on man 🤨, they could've have just said they want Sabine to come to get Ezra but no the stupid fckn puzzle had to be the way.

[@SOCMMOB]

It would be a miracle if Disney somehow went bankrupt and was forced to liquidate all their properties.

[@johnsharpe6411]

Disney is too important as a propaganda outlet. The western oligarchs would never let it fall.

[@bloodeagle6458]

Its happening

[@DeuceGenius]

Walt Disney rolling in his grave. He was a great man.

[@IllusionSector]

@@DeuceGenius He was a complex man, but yes, he's absolutely rolling in his grave.

[@IllusionSector]

@darthrevan1281 If he's head was still in the jar he'd've done something about things by now.

[@TheTrashAccount]

Nothing can save Star Wars at this point

[@bobd2078]

Good writing can.

[@SpeedimusPrime2006]

Even The Prequels Were Better Than Today’s Era Of The Franchise Including The Sequels

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

Tony Gilroy has the best chance

[@TheTrashAccount]

@@bobd2078That’s assuming if Disney actually hired good writers

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

@@bobd2078 Disney has forever tarnished their reputation to the point that even if something good comes out, nobody will want to watch it because it’s made by Disney

[@paultorrisi4992]

On today's installment of "Andor did it better", Miro was a way better execution of stoic female character. I think part of what made her work better was because she wasn't emotionless all the time, so scenes where she would have to steel herself (like torturing Bix) made her feel that much more intimidating and serious.

[@Mouse_Metal]

And when the citizens were lynching her at the very end she was obviously desperate and scared to death.

[@buntado6]

Meero always has a face as if she's scared shitless inside and is making her damn better to hide it during the meetings. The only times it didn't seem so was when she had a clear advantage and the fear gave place to sadism, specially during the torture scene. Heck, the most interesting is when Syril starts stalking her, as if the whole situation was new to her. She's used to expect backstabbing, not fanatism, so despite her constant domineering demeanor, the thought of exploiting this weird idolatry like other types of femme-fatales never crossed her mind, she didn't feel in control at all.

[@electron5271]

Stoicism isn't about being emotionless in the first place. I feel like the term is used incorrectly more than correctly nowadays. Stoicism is feeling emotions, but not letting them influence your actions.

[@davidataturk4357]

Wrong. Space Mexican sucked

[@DarranKern]

On today’s installment of “Im not watching Andor OR Ashoka”

[@smugsuphia7846]

Coming from a family of longtime Star Wars fans, I miss the times when we felt genuine excitement when the next Star Wars movie came out. It’s to the point where my dad nearly named me after Luke Skywalker. Nowadays, we just watch these episodes when we have nothing else to do, and my dad actually slept through the second episode of Ahsoka. We’ve known him to sleep through movies that fail to keep him interested beyond the opening act. I genuinely hoped that Ahsoka would be a diamond in the rough, like Rogue One and the first two seasons of The Mandalorian (I haven’t watched Andor yet, but based on what I’ve heard it’s worth the watch). She’s one of the few characters left that the fans still love and Disney hasn’t butchered yet. I should’ve known better.

[@danielegiuliani2700]

Andor is truly incredible. The best show Disney ever did. The only problem? It will spoil everything else

[@hez859]

Man idk, episode 4 and episode 5 of Ahsoka were sick. I think the hate this channel and comment section is giving it is definitely blown out of proportion. @@danielegiuliani2700

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

Andor was one of the best series, if not best. First episode had me worried but it got real real good! This Ahsoka is the worst.

[@whatNtarnation90]

@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896 You guys aren't doing Andor justice.... ALL the TV shows from Disney have been AWFUL. Mando had a couple of decent episodes but was overall awful. Andor however was amazing, an actually well written show, with or without being tied to Star Wars.

[@hez859]

​@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896you genuinely still think this? Thrawns intro was sick. This page is filled with haters

[@PurplehoodedMf]

Unironically with every new star wars show, I feel the lightsaber as a weapon just becoming weaker and weaker. Lightsabers in the OG trilogy felt dangerous and unstable but powerful, like Vader cutting off Luke's hand looked like it barely took any effort. With the prequel trilogy, they felt like proper weapons, not too heavy not too light, and deadly in the hands of someone experienced. In the sequels and onwards it started to feel more like a bat than a sword, yeah it can still do damage but it felt more like you were wacking the enemy with it more than slashing. Nowadays it feels no stronger than that stick you find on the ground during a walk. It makes me sad tbh

[@DeuceGenius]

Ya. Lightsabers are the coolest and one of the most powerful weapons ever.

[@drumlessons833]

And in the new videogames it's a wet noodle.

[@financeexplainedgraphics]

It used to be an elegant weapon… from a more civilized age…

[@P0k3D0nd3M4cG]

They felt dangerous because you were a child. Literally who has died besides Qui Gon and Obi Wan (who just went POOF). Maul survived being cut in fcking half

[@Thecatbehindtheslaughtering]

@@P0k3D0nd3M4cG My guy, he literally sourced how they could carve limbs like it's butter

[@martindice5424]

I’ve seen Clone Wars and Rebels (covid) and whilst they started off as Disney fodder there was definitely character development there especially for Ashoka - that moment when Vader calls her ‘Little Snips’ and her realisation that this monster was once her mentor is brilliant ! Honestly, those animated shows made for kids have far more power and character development than anything Disney is giving us now.

[@sdfried4877]

Upon reflection, and comparing to current content, Rebels keeps getting better.

[@burna2650]

Except for a few episodes, Clone wars was aimed at a more broader and mature audience than Rebels was. However as it's audience grew older, Rebels did keep pace and became more mature overall by the end.

[@Luca-nf8ll]

clone wars wasn't made by disney, it was george lucas.

[@OilFreeFeathers]

​@@burna2650They are both cartoons for kids, Snips.

[@PSYCHOSCION]

@@OilFreeFeathers how does that make any sense. Just because clone wars is a cartoon doesn’t make it Disney fodder. It came out before the acquisition

[@Horsemeat]

Audience: "How long can a corpse be desecrated?" Lucasfilm: "Yes"

[@norreras343]

Lucasfilm with cgi Skywalker: no one is ever really gone

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

Disney: "Before we answer, is the corpse a youngling?"

[@DashBranaghan]

Disney: Challenge accepted.

[@michaelvalencia5211]

That poor dead horse must be paste or power by now. RIP horse.

[@richardthompson7431]

The darkside is a pathway to things some would consider unnatural. 😂

[@latios3874]

To the point on the Witches... they've been a thing. There was an enteir arc about it in the clone wars and kept coming back as reoccuring characters for the likes of Assaj Ventres and Darth Maul. I beleive Grevious was the one who finished of their cultrue though forcing them to scatter.

[@gerardkennedy1100]

Force witches of Dathomir. Rode Rancors as a mode of transport (cant recall the book series they were in possibly hand of thrawn. Disney have finally realised the way to save their investment is to delve into the EU and Legends. Problem is they are still using the wrong writers to give the EU storylines life. Pathetic reslly. #thefemaleforceisafarce

[@def3ndr887]

“Forcing them to scatter.” Dude Grevious murdered everyone.

[@latios3874]

@@def3ndr887 To be fair, it's been a while since I've seen it. Like a couple years. I only remeber the basic premis of the arc

[@def3ndr887]

@@latios3874 all good just pointing the literal genocide against a very spooky and demonic people

[@leurunner4764]

​@def3ndr887 Well, in the Courtship of Princess Leia, multiple clans are alive and well.

[@DirkTheDaringDnD]

Rest in Peace Ray Stevenson. Even if we haven’t seen the rest of the episodes, he’s going to hands down carry the show and steal the spotlight with every scene he’s in.

[@penguinatedthings305]

Didn't even know he was dead. What a great actor he was.

[@monkehotdogs2227]

Last thing I saw him in was RRR; didnt even know he passed RIP.

[@HouseOfAlastrian]

His untimely passing after finishing up a not particularly great production kind of reminds me of how Street Fighter was Raul Julia's last movie.

[@TheMonkeygoneape]

@@HouseOfAlastrian it was just a Tuesday for him

[@danielt.8573]

He played one of my favorite villains of all time in Dexter. He played a dangerous criminal who was also deep, emotional, and a man of his word. It was a great performance.

[@MarcusSanchez2525]

Something that has bothered me with the character of Ashoka for a long time is why do they insist on making her be a loner? It was one thing when she was on the run from the empire but Ashoka acts like she has no friends and spends most of her time sulking about not being there for Anakin, I would think she would have found groups of people she could trust and call friends by now.

[@ltb1345]

Same thing they did with Luke. They just don't get Jedi characters, I guess.

[@AldousHuxleysCat]

The thing that made the original Star wars great had nothing to do with the story or the writing. The first thing was the massive jump in the way technology was used in special effects it looked like nothing anyone had ever seen before The second was the interaction between that particular set of characters. Everything else was just a rehash from a dozen other sources. It was never meant to be all that unique or original, more an homage to something that used to be done in a more modern setting. For me I'm going to enjoy it for what it is, it's not like there's anyway I can make it something else so why not enjoy it as it is and be grateful there's something better to watch than the average crap served up repetitively. Sure it could probably be better but I'll take it over nothing, I like the characters and so far the story is not awful. Sure it's the same old same old just told a slightly different way, and what out there isn't?

[@genox3636]

Just watching this vid, it looks like mostly all women.

[@moonwhooper]

​@genox3636 yes because they're looking for the two main male characters

[@MarcusSanchez2525]

@@AldousHuxleysCat I understand where your coming from and I had that mindset for a long time but Disney wore out all my goodwill I had for them, thought I might give the show a chance since it’s Ahsoka but I am not impressed with this either. Also being grateful for crap doesn’t change the fact it is crap lots of people said the same thing about the Obi-Wan show and it’s honestly attitudes like that which allow them to get away with making said crap. It would be better in times like this for the franchise to have been left alone and allowed it to maintain its dignity and legacy.

[@critiqueoflife]

Being old enough to remember 50s scifi, it is still stunning to see modern production values. If plots come back into fashion again it will be indeed spectacular. But a lecture, is always a lecture, no matter the costumes, lights, and sets.

[@CommanderLongJohn]

Even a ton of modern productions pale in comparison to even the 1950s (let alone 60s-80s), the overrealiance on CGI and green screens is seriously mind boggling.

[@neotoad456]

@@CommanderLongJohn "green screen bad" let me guess, you're 60+ years of age. OR 45 at the very least. special effects are not bad by default. its how its use that makes it horrible. a green screen can be useful to visualize an fantastic setting/sifi settling. stop motion isn't always going to make an film look realistic or good.

[@CommanderLongJohn]

@@neotoad456 LOL I'm 24 first off, secondly you must not know what the word overrealiance means, I can easily concede a *proper* and smart use of CGI and even green screens (to a degree), House Of The Dragon or especially Lord of The Rings are perfect examples. Even still, most modern movies will never come close; Apocalypse Now didn't have a single use of CGI or special effects, even the napalm strike they used a legit payload and had one single take, the choppers and APC's and boats and explosions and fire, for f*cks sake they actually had dead bodies from a morgue in a scene (though obviously I don't expect that from any movie lol), and virtually no war movie will ever come close to the sheer authenticity and immersion of that film and a few others in that league. Now admittedly and IMO that's a special film so I'll use the example of the original Star Wars, no other entry has ever felt as authentic and 'real' as the original trilogy, and it's because of the real props and stop motion and miniatures, the set models and detail, or take Alien and Aliens 1986-they feel incredibly authentic and it's easy to get immersed, everything looks and 'feels' real and modern entries to the franchise feel laughably fake and soulless.

[@SoyIntoxicatedWokeBastard]

The costumes and production suck, by the way. It's like watching cosplayers pretending to be Star Wars characters. It's just doesn't sell. Sabine is an excellent example of why some animated things should never become live action.

[@ltb1345]

@@SoyIntoxicatedWokeBastard I'd say Hera is an even better example. Yikes!

[@ThePholder30]

I find it hilarious that your review of Ahsoka has garnered more views than the opening premier of the show itself! 😂😂 Solid work Drinker my good man 😁 Anyway, go away now! 🤩

[@JonathanRodriguez-po3fn]

Witches do exist in the EU. A group of witches raised Darth Maul. I believe Darth Zannah was also a sith sorcerer which specialized in force related corruption magics

[@cincydooley]

Night sisters.

[@JonathanRodriguez-po3fn]

@@cincydooley yup those are the ones!

[@SpScarletSpider]

The Emperor also used Sith and Nightsister alchemy as well.

[@electron5271]

Why would they only exist in the European Union?

[@mehdihasanov6367]

@@electron5271 expanded universe

[@davidchambers44]

Disne went from reusing plot points from the original movies to reusing plot points from the sequels. More hunting for macguffins and maps which lead to people in unknown regions of space.

[@pcgamingeconomico3057]

and they copied that from a game..... knights of the old republic

[@marsoelflaco5722]

I smell Abrams shite!🤭

[@intellectic9155]

They've been ripping off the old EU, the one they made not canon, and then making it worse.

[@niceguyrides]

I don’t even give Disney the time of day. The best thing that could happen for Star WARS IS for Disney to sell Lucas Films.

[@sarawhitfield5415]

​@@pcgamingeconomico3057I don't understand how that's such a bad thing.

[@mrcheesebergur4239]

The empires greatest enemy is really the person creating these secret keys and maps to important characters that could defeat them.

[@overcorpse]

You win the internet.

[@michaelb2westgaedu]

Empire? Stuff started back in the KOTOR days with the Star Forge. Maps ruin everything.

[@Uzarran]

@@michaelb2westgaedu At least in KotOR it made sense in that the starmaps were monuments to the Infinite Empire's power. In both TRoS and Ahsoka they seem to be using McGuffins that either shouldn't exist or should have no influence on the story. Why would anyone make a knife that shows where in the Death Star ruins you can find the second wayfinder? Wouldn't that person just get the wayfinder from the start? Why does an ancient map, made by a long dead civilization, indicate the exact galaxy that Thrawn was sent to? And more importantly, why are they assuming that's the galaxy he's in, or that he's even in another galaxy?

[@davidchambers44]

​@@yleyatarnyes! This is now the second time an "ancient" map has been used to find something or someone in the present.

[@Enclavefakesoldier]

​@@UzarranExactly. It was a flex for the Rakata. It wasn't a literal map telling their slaves where they were.

[@joshrudelic1860]

The entire cast took lithium before shooting

[@DJWHITE_]

Do you think if the Death Star shot Sabine, she’d still survive?

[@DarthPerkins]

No. But then they'd be a clone, alternate universe version or twin sister.

[@DJWHITE_]

Nobody really dies! Nobody is really gone!@@DarthPerkins

[@DJWHITE_]

And then in ten years the grand-they androgynous offspring of Sabine and Ahsoka will save the day.@@DarthPerkins

[@ninjabarbee3979]

Given the f****** plot-armor the character is wearing, yes. Yes, she would survive a blast from the Death Star.

[@SoyIntoxicatedWokeBastard]

You could chop her into tiny pieces with a lightsaber and put her remains inside a small box and throw that box into a hungry sarlac. As long as It's a Dave Feloni character or a Disney princess she'll wake up in bed the next day like It was just a flu.

[@CadmeanLotus]

Lightsabers have been stripped of all their grandeur, elegance, lethality, and power. They are now nothing more than glowing baseball bats that inflict as much damage to the body as a paper cut. Well done Disney, you've killed a decades-old franchise with a massive, loyal fanbase in the span of a few short years, and you're still beating the dead and decaying corpse of what's left of this franchise.

[@darthcuckold1486]

Right imagine fucking with the most iconic thing in your franchise.

[@naphthylamin6862]

Its like Disney is made up by a bunch of necrophiles....

[@caleidoo]

Also, if you're impaled in the ribs, you have a scar in the abdomen. Amazing tech. Never fails to surprise us.

[@enditakamweneshe6428]

Exactly, Sabin should have been dead right on the spot, even that slash in the back with Fin should have atleast paralyzed him, it would have been better if he got a prosthetic spine to explain that shit, another thing that bothers me is the lightsabers producing sparks when they clash against each other like they were metal.

[@admrsh]

@@Hat_With_A_Hat_On Did you not read the lore? Darth Maul survived on his hatred of Kenobi.

[@weirdchick257]

The worst thing about this show is it feels like it completely misses who Ashoka even is as a character. Taken out of animation Ashoka has lost her soul just like Disney themselves long ago.

[@buckatoms]

I'm wondering if Rosario bothered to watch the animated shows.

[@mrao9068]

Yeah Ahsoka is a complete shell of herself in this show. I really miss animated Ahsoka

[@Сайтамен]

​@@buckatoms Or Dave Filoni

[@daryltor7608]

Technically they’re still the same character. It’s just different medium, but I get what you mean.

[@Stakex]

It's because all of the female characters on the show are falling into the Disney "strong female lead" mold, where they have to be grounded, stoic and generally act like tough men the entire time. They're not allowed to have charming/charismatic personalities, like Ahsoka in animation, because that can be perceived as weak or feminine, and that's not allowed.

[@JonborgVA]

I'm confused how some assassin droids can make an explosion that big when the IG droid explosion in the Mandalorian series made more sense.

[@herrsiemes7094]

Im confused as to why the assassin droid behind her would wait for her to do her signature pose on the other droid instead of ...you know...assassinating her...

[@peabrain6872]

Because these arent ig droids, and theres multiple

[@JonborgVA]

@@peabrain6872 then why don't they explode when they get sliced up? Idk seems weird to me to have that big of an explosion with some droids

[@elijahhayes4383]

I feel like these Mandoverse shows would work a lot better if they were animated. (Which makes sense because that's all Filoni did before this.) The simple/childish writing translates a heck of a lot better in animated form I'd say. And that way we could just use the old voice actors instead of replacing them with boring live action actors

[@proto-geek248]

They'd work better if they had good writers.

[@Heath86]

They would work better if they knew how to write. A warrior race reduced to drunked hillbillies that shoot everything but what they need to.

[@The_Killah29]

@@proto-geek248 That too.

[@Hellaframes]

Hell nah filoni shows sucks the only good Star Wars animation is 2003 clone wars

[@jelmo3682]

⁠@@HellaframesRIP 2003 Grievous. Taken from us too soon

[@brandonarzillo8561]

I love how it took a 10 minute conversation to get to the command station at the shipyard, but Hera was able to get back to her ship in 10 seconds to catch to transport that was already taking off haha

[@trexic436]

Chopper most likely picked her up closer

[@dafirelive]

Have you heard of a astro Droid? They have the ability to drive fighter ships. Example chopper and the ghost miniship.

[@rc1982]

Modern movie makets have no clue about time.

[@franzosisch5965]

Show don't tell. Or in your case, show the audience so morons stop filling the plot holes@@dafirelive

[@hez859]

shhh, you know they just want to hate on every aspect of the show@@trexic436

[@JJSS-vg1qs]

In the cartoons Ahsoka actually had a personality.

[@DCUEmp_prinzy]

Yeah rosario Dawson doesn't feel like the character at all

[@wlot28]

Didn't filoni write the cartoons also? Why did he suddenly forget how to write good characters

[@DCUEmp_prinzy]

@@wlot28 he created ahsoka even, unless he wasn't the same person responsible for making her the beloved character that she is right now. Maybe the first showing of ahsoka that every fan hated was his idea and the rest were others having an input, I don't think it is but its possible because I as someone whose seen clone wars, rebels and mandalorian never felt she (rosario dawson) was the character, we should have gotten her voice actor honestly

[@pogo1140]

Ahsoka was an insufferable brat when she was introduced to us.

[@NovelPhoinixTheSecond]

​@pogo1140 That's why her character development is so good.

[@m......7984]

It’s sad how visuals have come so far yet story telling has just been depreciating

[@alphabet2238]

I find the two usually go hand in hand. If a director thinks they can wow an audience with cheap theatric tricks then they put less effort into actually making a good story. A good story takes time and usually a little more money but CGI is quick and cheap.

[@countradiguet9979]

The witch is likely one of the nightsisters from the clone wars show. So they always been established in canon going back even before Disney bought Star Wars.

[@Bayard1503]

Not likely, obviously... and they maybe even come from that other galaxy. The way they use the force is completely different from anyone else. Anyway, they were exterminated.

[@mrminkman952]

@@Bayard1503 not obviously. clearly she literally said she was a nightsister, and you are right they were all killed by grevious, except mother talsin

[@e.l.norton]

It's a crap canon at this point. Star Wars has been shit for so long, even "canon" is steaming septic tank of diarrhea.

[@Miller09095]

@@mrminkman952 and Merrin from Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor

[@carycunningham9510]

Ventress was a nightsister.

[@videogamehunter820]

The reason Asoka isn’t as bad as the other shows is because they didn’t desire to tear apart the titular character like the others.

[@brokenfingers9607]

Right, because there's already a woman in the lead, so there's no need.

[@jwroot]

But yet, they managed to make Ahsoka really underwhelming to get invested in compared to her animated counterpart.

[@Valen-xu2wy]

Yet

[@Palaemon44]

A witch? Looks like the writer spent some time playing Jedi Fallen Order. How come they can’t make a show that is as good as a video game?

[@burna2650]

It is as bad really.

[@stuumbly]

To be fair, witches were established in clone wars, you would’ve just had to just watch five seasons of it to get that confirmation

[@mehdihasanov6367]

Actually, they were introduced over two decades ago

[@tonygreenfield7820]

Yep, the "Force Witches" of Dathomir have been part of the expanded universe since the first EU novels came out. I can't recall much about them except they were formed by a Jedi and, I think they were on the Rebels/Republics side not the Empire.

[@redfive02]

Yeah, but you'd have to have an understanding of what you're talking about to know that, Drinker just complains to complain now

[@jt1559]

​@@redfive02or 95%+ of the audience don't watch anything other than the movies and avoid cartoons because they're adults and have a natural aversion to them and even fewer people read the books of the EU. For most people the movies and maybe the Disney+ TV shows is all the Star Wars they care about. How dare the Drinker not be a fully fledged fanatic!!! Even removing the criticism of witches, the synopsis of the first two episodes makes it clear that the Drinker has a lot to rightfully complain about.

[@wienczysawwiaderko6204]

​​@@redfive02He's literally said that a good story should be written in a way so that the casual fans could understand it too. And he's right. He's a casual fan, and they're a majority. They've only seen the movies, and there's no witches in the movies.

[@Keys879]

Andor was the only series by Disney which seemed to take the franchise seriously. While it may not have been everyone's cup of tea, it was the only one which seemed to genuinely try and cater to the audience it should. The adults who grew up with the franchise and adore it.

[@classicbrix]

So true. Andor was what I’ve always wanted to see and I’m so glad it was done with such quality! Once season 2 is out, I can’t say I’ll be very motivated to check out any future projects if it’s in the “Mando verse” style

[@user-ze3sg6ix1u]

Agreed fully, it felt so realistic.

[@user-ze3sg6ix1u]

​@@classicbrixthere's definitely a style to these shows. It's like they all involve familiar characters to draw us in, but the plots are always lazy and poorly written

[@Keys879]

@@user-ze3sg6ix1u Cookie-Cutter, one could say. Like an AI program wrote them. No passion or adoration for the series. Just cold-hard cash grab.

[@jeremyallen5974]

Shame it revolved around a plank of wood that wasn't all that deep of a character Contrary to what the MCU has taught you idiots not everyone needs a seven hundred page book or a ten hour TV show detailing their origins

[@CaulkMongler]

FYI “witchcraft” has always been a feature of the Star Wars books. The Nightsisters aka Witches of Dathomir have featured in the books and critically acclaimed Clone Wars animated series. It’s not magic but a subset of Force abilities, but just gives a lot of mystic feels regardless.

[@labrat810]

Indeed! That was pretty much the only thing I disagreed with TCD on. Not one of the greatest parts of Legends, but 'Witches' are both Legends and Disney canon.

[@mrblank-zh1xy]

So does a lot of Sith Alchemy. Sith are not just Dark Jedi. The Sith system teaches many powers that the Jedi do not. Mind reading, future reading, creation of special cybernetics and artifacts, various ways to weaponize the Force (attack techniques), creation of thinking and feeling weapons and tools with special powers, ways to mutate the flesh of lesser creatures, and many others.

[@icecoldpolitics8890]

@@labrat810the witches don’t even use magic they are using basically one part of the force something that was confirmed in both legends and rebels.

[@ibrahimkevinlagosarias3986]

dude he obviously know that, that's why he said this show can only be recommended to fans you really are dull af

[@Domingo95x]

yeah and those books are garbage. read a better book.

[@primmakinsofis614]

Lightsaber wounds in current Star Wars are like bullet wounds in action movies: barely an inconvenience.

[@newtpondskipper]

I ain't got time to bleed!

[@firstlast9846]

Okay but that lightsaber pierced a lung and for sure melted a few ribs and other internal organs… idc how good the healthcare is in the Star Wars universe - you’re not fixing *Melted bones and lungs* .

[@leethrelfalllt]

More like a bad paper cut...you know...dead stingy!

[@jwroot]

Hey! That's Ryan George's line!

[@nicholasmarshall8430]

You can t bleed from a lightsaber!

[@jp4951]

It's strange. I watched Ahsoka ep1-2 immediately after finishing The Bad Batch. It's like night and day how literal clones somehow have more distinct personalities than this stoic yet colorful bunch.

[@sivad1025]

Bad Batch is truly an anomaly. I don't know how that show, especially The Outpost, was made under Disney and Filoni

[@AntiTMG]

@@sivad1025 maybey Kathleen wasnt involved with that show

[@Christcorepunkfan]

@@sivad1025was S2 good? I never watched it

[@user-lc5of7jh5g]

​@@Christcorepunkfanyeah it was better than s1

[@captainkyperplayz1162]

​@@Christcorepunkfanit kinda jumps. The episodes that are on plot are some of the best Star Wars there is, but the filler episodes are pretty bad

[@rovhalt6650]

Ahsoka is basically just about a bunch of toxic insecure women not talking to eachother.

[@galetheimpaler7077]

This is exactly what it is. It's like what l imagine the sex and city would be in space with lightsabers.

[@peterlang777]

Don't forget the ugly hair

[@peabrain6872]

Sure thing buddy

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

​@@peabrain6872he îs right, buddy

[@sevenmileshome]

"like, I dunno, should I ask Sabine for help..?" "yes gurl, you need to!" "No, im not going to." ".........ok." THE VERY NEXT SCENE: "I need your help Sabine"

[@DugdoesDigging]

i love how he pointed out how stupid that orb puzzle was, i have been in contact with people that argue that ahsoka couldnt have solved that all by herself, its so stupid

[@christopherrobinson3857]

It reminded me of treasure planet, all other characters didn't understand the sphere map, but the MC just messed with it for a bit and had the thing working for him. I don't mean anything against treasure planet, it had different messages that worked, where this show appears to not know what it wants to accomplish, so it's stealing from better content.

[@damienmitchell3104]

@@christopherrobinson3857 iirc the mc fiddled with it and got it in the right position by pure dumb luck. dude had a super power of luck

[@Piesy001]

I have a set of bocce (or boules) balls that looks exactly like that orb, except silver.

[@user-ze3sg6ix1u]

Dude I thought the same! After she solved it I thought "THATS IT? I COULDVE JUST PLAYED AROUND WITH IT AND DONE THAT!"

[@elijah06]

Does anyone know what movie 5:43 is?

[@synthds3897]

Man, I just love how refreshing and unexpected girl boss archetypes are. I really hope we get more of them

[@buckatoms]

I agree. What this show really needs is a flawless black woman for the male characters to look up to.

[@ceasarsaran8573]

No doubt.

[@nealm6764]

Why do they even bother with male characters?

[@JordanI135]

Ahsoka is/was actually a good character doe. Have you even watched any of TCW?

[@boutinpowered8373]

​@@nealm6764You need vaillains.

[@brendanmccallion2350]

Disney are single handedly paying Critical Drinker's salary 😂

[@chemoboy-dannypheleps9234]

If sci-fi movies were created even half competently, he’d be out of the job.

[@dayoltay]

😂😂😂

[@RafitoOoO]

​@@chemoboy-dannypheleps9234he also gets views when praising good shows and movies though.

[@LucianDevine]

And bar tabs!

[@chemoboy-dannypheleps9234]

@@RafitoOoO There are tons of people who praise movies well and just as many who criticize movies, not as well. Informed criticism is his money maker. The ones where he lauds movies are few and far between. Like 1 in 5 would you say?

[@DrLordSultan]

The worst about this series is, they not even ONCE mentioned how good of a friend Ahsoka Tano was😢

[@optimistprime2751]

The amount of time disney star wars has stabbed someone through the torso with a lightsaber and they magically survive is too damn high.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

Flash boiled critical organs? No biggie.

[@goffokfm6821]

Must not have read a lot of old EU content.

[@optimistprime2751]

@@goffokfm6821 must've forgotten about the temperature of a lightsaber liquifying your organs.

[@dafirelive]

@@optimistprime2751 Must forget that if a lightsaber can melt through thick metal doors it mean that it will melt the person holding the lightsaber.

[@goffokfm6821]

@@optimistprime2751 I’m not saying it isn’t silly. Just that it was happening long before Disney ever touched Star Wars. Blame Disney for the things Disney actually does.

[@johnbaptiste3565]

The biggest tragedy in all this is the steady lowering of the bar of what is a good story in the collective consciousness of human beings. People seem to be so dumbed down and tasteless these days that anything remotely decent passes for ‘good’. It’s almost as if Disney is on a mission to wipe out creative influence from a generation and replace it with mediocrity.

[@user-wi9hv2pb2q]

I honestly feel like this is a giant push by some fascist 3rd world enemy to spit on beloved American cultural icons. Despite the first three movies being 20 years old there were little kids that were devoted fans. Now it's all just garbage.

[@_GOD_HAND_]

It's not just entertainment. One of the goals of censorship is to make it impossible for people to communicate about the "before times" when housing was affordable, food was cheap, crime was low, etc. Young people will accept a lower standard of living if they are prevented from learning how sharply things have declined over the last few decades.

[@braxxian]

That’s what 20 years of endless superhero films has done.

[@jonathanz.9675]

That and they just shove it down our throats. Andor may have been too sophisticated for many people, but they could make fantastic stories that would make tons of money, but corruption and monopoly makes it impossible Just think, tons of genius in the world and we can only find these people to be the presidents of the US

[@user-vl8sh7ih8c]

Disney (Kathleen Kennedy) has slammed the bar so unbelievably far past bad (stinking awful) that good is no longer a possibility.

[@anthonosrobertos]

Ahsoka in the animated series was such a charismatic character with real emotion displayed and a real depth of character. It is sad that they seem to have told Rosario Dawson to play her role like a Terminator with no emotion.

[@daikansanchez7674]

Even the Terminator ( the original from T2) had more emotion writen into his character.

[@name-vi6fs]

I liked her in Rebels, and I couldn't stand her in CW.

[@realtalkrealthingsent.8024]

@@name-vi6fsthat’s a hot take 😅

[@darth3261]

Lucas could pull off the stoic, reserved Jedi masters and still make them interesting. Star Wars died when he left

[@ramonandrajo6348]

And she is not canon. XD

[@danelliott8548]

With out all the walking, and thinking the show would only be 10 min long. And is proof Disney is creatively bankrupt!

[@tripleespresso1823]

My son grew up with the Clone wars TV show. His favourite characters were Ashoka and Captain Rex. From that we watched the Clone Wars film then the OT then the prequels and latterly the sequels. He then went on to watch the final season of Clone wars and Rebels. He is 16 now and turned off this show after 15 mins claiming this isn’t Ashoka and it’s boring. Well done Dave.

[@mrao9068]

Feel the same way. I'm 19 and grew up w the Clone Wars, and this literally feels like a fanfic

[@zeebooboo9663]

Clone Wars is great because it made something great out of the prequels.

[@dualwieldroxas358]

Rebels Ahsoka was not terrible, but it certainly foreshadows problems with her writing (especially with the godamn time travel plot). But her live action showing has literally felt like a different character with the same name and appearance

[@Phasma6969]

​@@mrao9068TRUE. Same impression here...

[@Phasma6969]

​@@dualwieldroxas358you right

[@TheMC1102]

If I ever want to watch a Star Wars story involving Ahsoka Tano in a prominent role, I'll just watch the Clone Wars.

[@dougsmith6262]

She was badass in Rebels as well.

[@sincerelynotme3522]

On God. Give me Clone Wars all day.

[@deriznohappehquite]

Ahsoka works well as a foil to Anakin.

[@SolidPain6624]

Ok but you’ll still watch this. You know you will

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

​@@SolidPain6624no... We won't.... You don't seem to understand how independent thought works do you?

[@Bmanjones101]

Of course the two most interesting characters, the two “anti jedi” will get 30 seconds of screen time every episode

[@darthmalagus]

Yeah and Ashoka, who is SUPPOSED to be an amazing character has become some average Jedi sage character that goes completely against all of her character development. Ashoka is supposed to be a grey jedi that doesnt suppress her emotions. That was one of the biggest reasons she left the order, cause she felt that their teachings on things like emotion was causing Jedi to fall. And that belief became solidified when Anakin fell. This show undoes all of that for the sake of "making her a girlboss" when the truth is she was already a badass female character without their meddling.

[@LeonSKennedy7777]

I remember when they used to be called Sith. I guess they’ve sunsetted the term in favor of “anti-jedi” and “witches” now… for some reason?

[@ronanmoore9562]

The only element that surprised and intrigued me is, of course, stolen from the EU's vault of characters from superior stories. Those 2 are a facsimile of the inquisitor Jerec and his apprentice Sariss from the Dark Forces games made by Lucasarts back in the glory days. disney leans so bloody hard on the old EU for shows like this yet at the same time desperately wants to ignore it's existence and push their own "original" GARBAGE instead.

[@DarthFlan]

And a little else because the main bad guy actually died in real life in May… So I don’t know how that’s going to work out in the show?

[@captainkyperplayz1162]

​@@LeonSKennedy7777the Sith are a very specific cult, and there can only be two of them. There can be many more darksiders though. These guys are darksiders, but not Sith

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

This made me miss my childhood watching soap operas with my grandmother on summer vacation. At least the stories were cohesive if not always coherent and each episode generally made sense within itself even if it might be retconned without any comment whatsoever the next week as someone was suddenly whisked off to recover from substance abuse or something like that. At least they had the excuse of being a daily program made every weekday almost without exclusion instead of half a dozen episodes done over the space of a year or so giving the writers every chance to make them coherent, cohesive, and complete. Ahsoka seems to be failing at all three of those tasks. And Drinker, you mad studly hero, you give these so-called writers too much credit with "room temperature IQ" because it seems more like "freezer temperature IQ". Why can't Disney-Lucasfilm be relegated to the junk heap of history along with the crypt-keeper scarecrow running it into the ground? Just happy I have hard copies of the true originals that made my childhood awesome.

[@shadyox3]

Sabine literally punching a metal droid with her bare hand and not breaking/shattering the bones in her hand lol.

[@SolracNexus]

The clone wars movie has a scene where the clone trooper punches a droid, but he screams from the pain and gets shot. The fact that it's from an animated movie almost 2 decades ago says something

[@patricktuorto]

thought the same thing

[@looinrims]

@@SolracNexushe’s wearing armor too

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

I’m guessing you guys have never seen clone wars 2004…

[@nistraan]

​@@yourbestpallshawn4139well uhhh.... actually Mace Windu is very powerfull so it makes sense why he can do that🤓🤓🤓

[@Nathan_da_b]

My biggest problem with the show is how the characters are adapted into live action. Like you said they all feel the same and are kind of boring. The closest scene we had to their animated counterparts was the scene with Hera and Chopper which only lasted about 5 minutes.

[@hez859]

It's 2 episodes in, genius. You act like the show is already finished lol

[@MrSphandor]

Well yes but it's clear the course is set it's difficult to imagine there will be major changes in how things are done before the end

[@jstefa2]

@@hez859 lets find a mystical artifact that enables us to find a powerful being that is crucial to the plot. and lets throw in some dark siders to make it tougher. its episode 7 all over again. including the mary sue character.

[@artoriasoftheabyss1495]

@@hez859 You act like any of it is going to be good. Genius.

[@Landoverse]

@@hez859That’s enough to lose my interest. I pay Disney for their time, not the other way around.

[@suenzhong7891]

I have a list of predictions on what's going to occur in Ahsoka: -Ahsoka is going to get as much screentime as Obi-wan Kenobi did in Kenobi aka not enough to justify the show being named after her -New characters Shin Hati and Baylan are going to hog the limelight instead of the Ghost team -Admiral Thrawn is going to nerfed so hard -Ezra is going to either barely appear or not appear at all -There's going to be a segment of the story which doesn't fit into the main story but is included in order to promote another Star Wars tv series

[@BottomShelfGames]

Of course Thrawn is going to be nerfed. He went from what should have been a movie plotline to a show. Some might argue that a show can develop a longer more detailed story but from what we've seen already and from past works in show settings they don't use the medium very well.

[@doc_sav]

​@@BottomShelfGamesYeah, this is a really big misconception people have. Shows have the POTENTIAL to tell great story arcs that movies just can't do, but thus far for Star Wars (and other franchises for that matter) that is almost entirely theoretical. In reality, we end up with things that cost as much as movies with about a movie's worth of good content, worse production value, and a season worth of uninteresting filler to stretch what they have into show length. Disney is simply not capable of exploiting the long form and they have proven that repeatedly.

[@doc_sav]

Oh yeah, I had a prediction too. Thrawn is going to end up being an anti-hero, reluctantly teaming up with the good guys, because Filoni et al have completely misread the reasons for his popularity.

[@jedimark5260]

@@doc_sav no, this show is setting up an Heir to the Empire movie.

[@doc_sav]

@@jedimark5260 If they are, it is going to resemble it in name only.

[@rob-fb3ph]

I love how the droids activated self destruct that could wipe out everything, after they tried to kill her with melee weapons. Better tactic: placed the droids nearby but not to close to the hole she came from and while she fights the other droids, activate the bomb. She won't have time to escape. Nah..that's just too cruel for Disney.

[@elijahwilliams3728]

Fr it was so anti-climatic it would've been better if they were chasing her with the bomb

[@roguedafrodgie8249]

The Clone Wars was one of the best pieces of media in the star wars franchise, created by Dave Filoni almost 20 years ago. The shows writing was soo good with a cast of characters that were literally the same person, they still all maintained a level of uniqueness between each other, they acted with emotion and intelligence. The arcs of the show never lasted more than a few episodes but still were all unique with different villain's of different motivations, on different planets, and with different strengths and weaknesses. Granted the show was made for teens but it still felt more mature and emotional than the modern Star Wars does.

[@ZaZi-Zeta01]

You have to remember that such was also under the DIRECT supervision of George Lucas, and Lucas still wrote the first three seasons of the show personally, with a heavy hand in everything through Season Six and the unreleased seasons and "alpha" Season 7. People have ALWAYS ascribed far too much credit to Filoni, simply because they couldn't believe George actually knew what he was doing the whole time.

[@deathgun5925]

Differnece is, The writers team is not the same as it was back then, and now they rather tell agenda's rather then just storys. And they had George who constantly said he wanted things in the show. Allot of stuff Dave gets praised for is actually Georges ideas if you see the behind the scenes stuff.

[@Solar-sx7kh]

@@deathgun5925 what agenda are they pushing dude? Is it because the characters are women? I geniunely do not understand.

[@Jacksonmontyart]

@@Solar-sx7kh Women good men bad pretty much sums up a majority of Lucas films writing

[@Solar-sx7kh]

@@Jacksonmontyart how is that agenda portrayed in Ashoka?

[@Meanietube]

There's a Monty Python sketch where a guy claims a witch turned him into a newt. When people look weird at him, he says: "I got better". That's pretty much like being impaled in a lightsaber fight nowadays. "I got better" 😂

[@EvilDoresh]

"It's just a fleshwound!"

[@sugarnads]

Its a narrow blade. Its assumedly very hot. So its reasonable to think it would cauterise any blood vessels it severs. Unless it hits something utterly vital it isnt necessarily gonna be immediately fatal. Its by appearance in use a cutting weapon.

[@liquidiced]

⁠@@sugarnadsit’s not a narrow blade 😅 Cauterisation is also never a free pass to survive, it’s a last ditch attempt to keep a person alive. A 4 inch hole through your body will usually be fatal. We’ve seen I think 4 survive this now. It’s stupid as fuÇk.

[@EvilDoresh]

@@sugarnads The width of the blade isn't an issue. What _is_ an issue is that you're having super-heated plasma jammed through your body that's hot enough to melt solid steel. That's gonna cook or explode just about every organ in your torso, even if the plasma miraculously doesn't directly pierce anything vital. And no, Maul surviving getting cut in half is not a good justification because that entire storyline was also kinda ridiculous.

[@Narcan885]

@@sugarnads Shut up. Lightsabers have been absolutely deadly at touch since the very inception of the universe, but here comes "sugarnads" in his white knight armor desperately making up sh-t to feel less bad about his favvie disney show.

[@RayPoreon]

On the topic of witches in star wars, yeah, they're a thing. Nightsisters of dathomir, one of the few force using factions. They show up in the clone wars show. The the witch probably should have been dathomirian but disney is already stretching their maximum alien limit I guess.

[@mandowarrior123]

The witches of dathomir are human, but they're primitives who can use the force. They aren't any more witchy. They use force lightning and ride rancors, that's about it.

[@graveyj2000]

Hah-I'm not the only one to notice that then-introduced them in Season 3 of clone wars, right? (Not sure if they were anywhere else in the extended universe.) And season 3 of clone wars was freakin' spectacular.

[@matthieucoville6251]

They also appear at least in Jedi : Fallen Order. And it is my understanding that the character is indeed from Dathomir.@@graveyj2000

[@KuwabaraYuukio9784]

They've been around for way longer than TCW in fact. Ever since the Jedi Academy novels with Jacen and Jaina (maybe even earlier but iirc that's when Dathomirians became more prominent).

[@graveyj2000]

Oh, yeah-I vaguely remember that. Good point!! @@KuwabaraYuukio9784

[@Brahlam]

Its sad that this is the last work of Ray Stevenson. He deserved better, such a great actor. 😞

[@Pretty_Boy6]

Dude I just thought about how excited I was for Ahsoka, and it kinda reminded me of back in 2015 when the force Awakens was showing. Back then I was like "Oh man that was good" then my friend told me "It was kinda just Episode 4 again". This show gives me those feelings.

[@JonathanGaeta]

I was the same way when The Force Awakens was released because I was a freshman in high school and 14 years old. Old teen me wanted to the sequel trilogy to be good but after TROS I stopped caring since I was already 18 when TROS came out and I see the flaws of every media I watch including the new Star Wars shows/movies coming out now

[@JakeHawken]

omg i had that exact same experience

[@chrisjerome8731]

The show isn't that bad, don't let the peanut gallery ruin your perspective.

[@westlinnstreets2349]

​@@chrisjerome8731it's bad

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

It's painfully mediocre

[@heraldofwar]

As Robot head rightfully says 'Disney dont understand how lightsabers work!'

[@yellowfellow7246]

Watching Disney slowly morph into The CW has been the most entertaining character arc they've been able to provide in the past few decades.

[@PTSayoriD]

Entertaining, yet tragic. Walt is spinning so hard he's essentially a dynamo at this point.

[@john2001plus]

LOL.

[@moonshine588]

I don't like your statement, I do not like how accurate it is.

[@bastianwright3402]

This might even be worse than the CW. At least they talk/whine in CW shows instead of having staring contests.

[@davidchambers44]

Riverdale, but with lightsabers

[@manuelruiz9189]

Star wars first premiered when I was a 13 year old kid growing up on a small farm. My dad was very selective in which animal bred with his livestock. Only the strongest and most beautiful creatures were allowed near his precious animals. One day, a scrawny little misfit from the herd jumped atop one of his best cows. Dad started whipping the hell out of that animal. I quickly realized why and joined in. Years later, now, in the present, seeing all this Star Wars content being thrown at us, I kinda feel like my dad back in the day. I see my beloved Star Wars, the film that enthralled me and transported a young, bored cowkid from the mundane, dullness of life, like Luke Skywalker himself is being humped to death by unimaginative hacks with no understanding of Lucas' original vision. I've given up on the latter Star Wars anything, preferring instead to watch the original big three in their original theatrical versions.

[@MikesGearGarage]

I was pining for a Kyle Katarn series so badly when disney first announced that they were making shows. Now I'm praying that they never touch him and forget he exists

[@chadschmaltz9790]

Same. I don't want them to go near his storyline at all. He's my favorite Star Wars character and I would hate to see Disney destroy him.

[@labrat810]

All I was thinking as TCD was going over the 'Map' scene, was how much I hope Disney never touches The Valley of the Jedi.

[@doesntmatter7485]

We got the Bryar pistol in Andor and those Dark Troopers in Mandalorian. Hopefully they never actually take on Katarn though because yeah, they'd ruin him big time

[@nyarlat2609]

​@@doesntmatter7485katarn already treads the edge of Mary Sue territory, but I liked his development and character in the old Dark Forces games. Thankfully, he's a white male, they avoid those characters at all costs. However, they could always have Kylie Katarn, the brave trans male who needs even less saber training than Rey, and redeems Thrawn with the power of love, love meaning he is compulsively enamored with how strong and perfect Kylie is. Then they base Kylie's appearance on the lead writer for good measure.

[@thewalruswasjason101]

Oh. They’ll forget him. It’s a male character

[@thejohnhend]

I was one of those people who are so jaded by the insufferable garbage that Disney has produced in the last few years, that I was almost giddy watching Ahsoka. Thanks a lot for bringing me back to reality. We’ve been force-fed the same tired old plots, storylines, and character development that anything marginally better seems like feasting on caviar. I will say some of the visual scenery is spectacular, if only they could match that immersive backdrop with some truly remarkable writing, it would literally blow people’s minds.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

As the years go by, it's clear that the appraisal of Filoni's talents as a writer/director are grossly over estimated.

[@madgavin7568]

Its been clear for years now, but fans ignored it because they (wrongly) saw him as the savior of the franchise when the sequel trilogy came out and divided the fan-base. The fact Ahsoka is still alive in Star Wars is entirely because of him, she's his damn waifu and he'll never kill her off even though it made perfect sense to. Vader should have killed her in Rebels, her character was already completed but Filoni literally brought in Time Travel into Star Wars to save her... absolutely ridiculous.

[@ZimCrusher]

As lines like "I hate sand. It's course, and gets everywhere.." start to look like master works, as more and more trash Star Wars come out. JarJar is a deep, well-rounded character compared to most of the Disney Star Wars production line, Default characters come out.

[@VonJay]

who ever praised him? I've never heard anyone say he was a good writer.

[@VonJay]

@@madgavin7568 wait there's time travel?

[@braxxian]

Yep. Mando is at best adolescent cowboys and Indians.

[@solaryon8711]

"There's witchcraft in Star Wars now?". My dude, the Nightsisters were introduced in a 1994 novel written by Dave Wolverton. Catch up, yeah?

[@BWMagus]

Yeah, he doesn't need to be aware of every obscure piece of trivia in every EU book--95% of Star Wars fans have never read those. Whether they were canon was questionable at the best of times.

[@solaryon8711]

@@BWMagus Yeah sure. I can agree to that... except that they have featured in multiple works in the extended universe, and literally the Clone Wars series. The comment is obviously meant as a low blow to Filoni and Disney in general, but none of the directors on Ahsoka have anything to do with the inclusion of witchraft in the Star Wars EU. That has been there the entire time.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

Yeah I did read it and no it’s not witchcraft they wield. They just wield the force and believe it’s witchcraft. Luke literally tells them “You do not need to say these phrases in order to use the technique, though if it helps your focus I suppose there’s no harm in it”. The night sisters here are using a completely separate system that includes necromancy and conjuring. They don’t have the same flesh necrosis brought about by dark side force use in the form of the black splotches that form all over their bodies but rather are simply tattooed. So yeah Drinker isn’t wrong here. This isn’t the force they’re wielding. It’s an entirely new system. And it’s not the same as the witches of Dathomar who wielded the force.

[@dispassionateobserver]

My favorite scene was the one where the strong women saunter around with a confident deadpan smirk on their face. That's how you know they are strong.

[@MrBottlecapBill]

I mean........I'm pretty old so maybe my opinion is out of date, but whenever I see two female friends get together who haven't seen each other in a long time, hugs and happiness are the usual response. Call me crazy.

[@Dowlphin]

That is an accurate summary of the damn clone war that is bothering me. From my personal experience it started with WoW human female character remakes and then everywhere they injected this "I am so amazing and I know it and no one can touch me" vibe. Galadriel of Amazon had it oozing out of her, too.

[@indrapratama7668]

Aka Captain Marvel smugface.

[@Eierfeile]

Seeing Ahsoka, you start to wonder whether replacing writers with AI scripts might actually be an improvement

[@Scale-Back]

I can tell you just from playing with chatgtp for a few weeks, it will be an improvement, even if they just use an AI to write the dialog. they will need like one human writer just to edit it and make small tweaks.

[@lalehiandeity1649]

Maybe, but that’s gonna lead to bloody revolt.

[@marchellochiovelli7259]

How so... writers are not the ones to make swords out of plow shares. @@lalehiandeity1649

[@Hombre944]

You're actually wondering? Amateur. (j/k)

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Wait, you are WONDERING? Replacing the actresses and the writers with AI would be an improvement. A HUGE one.

[@justus7650]

As soon as you said 'she loses, and gets impaled through the gut with a lightsaber' I knew she would show up again a few scenes later, looking healthier than I do after too many beers and a late night. Was there a memo circulating at Lucasfilm a few years ago? "We need one lightsaber duel per two hours of screentime, but can't lose more than one major character per series. Lightsabers are no longer lethal - KK" FFS

[@eleethtahgra7182]

Thats lazy writing. They are treating lightsaber as if its a mere cold iron. Its capable of cutting through blast door. And the burn would prevent healing. Theres a novel where folks could summon fiery sword and could heal (by hastening the healing process with magic). One character got disected...from groin to gut with fiery blade. The cut part got cauterized n thus prevent him from being healed. He died cos his organ rot inside his body. Treating a, possibly, 3000 C energy blade as if its an ordinary sword is just lazy writing.

[@blienemann09]

KK is the devil. The epitome of toxic feminism

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

They didn’t even care enough to fully complete the CGI in the scene either- @5:47 *there’s a blatantly missing lightsaber exit wound on her back!*

[@DuctTapePwnz]

Pirates of the Caribbean: sea turtles, mate! Ahsoka: space whales, rebel!

[@whybother8400]

I think the “witches” are the Nightsisters of Dathomir. They’re Force-sensitive but don’t actually know it as “the Force”. They just call it “magick” or something. At least that was my understanding.

[@jakephreel]

Also who cares if it is magic? There's 2 galaxies worth of planets in star wars universe. I'm sure one of them thought up the idea of magic at some point

[@Torthal]

nope mate, they use Magic, it is not Force under different name. It is Magic :) Sith also used Magic in old canon, and alchemy

[@paqshet4648]

​@@Torthalmagic is an aspect of the force still, since the force is in everything

[@awesomeguy9513]

⁠@@paqshet4648I think a clone wars episode explains their magic is force based when the mother steals essence from people it’s brought up the force is involved in some way

[@jakephreel]

@@paqshet4648 couldn't have said it better myself

[@rhinotime117]

Drinker! I was hoping you would address the scene, with Ezra telling Sabine, he thinks of her as a sister, because , that’s not the vibe they gave off in Rebels.

[@rosidaze8681]

Yeah, that line really bugged me. You’re telling me that Sabine is sneaking away to put on a private message that Ezra made for her, that Ezra recorded unbeknownst to all of us specifically for Sabine and he friendzones her? Like what? I think it's so ridiculous. It kind of reminds me of how Rachel Zegler has been saying stuff recently like “You know it's not going to be a love story” or “You know she’s not going to be saved by the prince” It’s that same kind of vibe, like they're intentionally avoiding a love story. Love doesn't undermine characters or the story they're part of, and I really dislike that this seems to be the prevailing sentiment lately. I understand Dave wanted to show that men and women can be friends without being romantic (which I think he already showed beautifully in Rebels and it's shown in various other Star Wars media) Yet, there's a need for understanding that at times, it's entirely acceptable for a woman to feel a sense of longing for a man and embark on a journey driven by love. It's a natural progression for the story and characters, and it just feels so unnatural after seeing Sabine's emotional display and attachment towards Ezra these past two episodes as well as Ezra’s obvious feelings for her in Rebels, to randomly insert “wEll aCtuALLy it’S SiBlinG lOve”.

[@mrminkman952]

that wasn't the vibe thy gave off about luke and leia in empire, if you catch my drift.

[@jedsithor]

Well Ezra is the same age as Luke and Sabine is a few years older than him. I'm sure Ezra likes Sabine but she certainly viewed him as a younger brother. Then again, Padme was 5 years older than Anakin and she ended up hitting that so who knows.

[@nagger8216]

Nah, that totally fits. Sabine never really showed any interest in Ezra that way. Sure, he had a crush on her, but that was it. And as much of a shitty character Ezra is, I'll give him that one, because he apparently finally matured and moved on, and maturing isn't a thing Ezra does a lot.

[@nagger8216]

​​@@rosidaze8681I mean, she could just be gay or asexual

[@thatONEmachine]

That puzzle scene is like handing an Alien a Rubik's cube and then being astonished when it figures it out just by turning it once or twice.

[@Narcan885]

??? Terrible analogy. A Rubik Cube is complex, an alien figuring it out in 2 moves would be impressive. But that "puzzle" thing is brain dead, it's literally a carbon copy of the map and only required a couple moves to become identical. It could literally be resolved by randomly spinning it around, as mentioned in the video.

[@zacharyrollick6169]

A Rubik's cube two turns from completion isn't hard.

[@SammEater]

It looks like they stole the design from the Treasure Planet's map. Except in that movie the map actually looks harder to decipher.

[@Concerned502]

Kind of like that other famous puzzle box in cinema history...... "The box. You opened it. We came. Now you must come with us, taste our pleasures."

[@JonborgVA]

Man the amount of convenience about the writing literally makes it's so easy to predict what might happen. When you viewers can accurately guess what's going to happen isn't a good sign of writing.

[@saint.vitus.7775]

The greatest tragedy about this is that it's the last thing Ray Stevenson ever did. RIP to the man who brought Titus Pullo to life!

[@gregory7572]

Thirteen!

[@danielbrown8812]

How a writer can take their own character and suck the entire personality they themselves created for the character out and turn them into capt marvel is just amazing to witness. I remember back when I just thought the severe difference in the actresses voices was going to be hard to ignore. Solved that. Just made her an ahsoka looking Droid.

[@noneya3635]

Because he’s hoping you’ll be foolish enough to watch the whole thing hoping for a satisfying arc. Didn’t do it for Obi Wan Mando season three or Andor. Not likely to do it here either. Chopper and Mary Winsted MIGHT keep me in the game but only in episode three really knocks my socks off.

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

Hey, don't diss Droids like that. They aren't robots. They're droids! XD

[@mynameiswritinwater]

well the author and prop cannot even get the continuity of the eye colour of Hera Syndula right... guess the green contacts were out that week ? Ray Stevenson is the only good thig in this, but it 's sad to see this is his last performance,... sad Epitath this

[@danielbrown8812]

@zephyrerazortail5478 true. Droids actually have a personality.

[@octogigas]

Except Ahsoka is actually pleasant and doesn't constantly attempt to girlboss in front of weak, impotent men. This is the worst comparison I've ever seen.

[@garygorka5980]

You need to look at this again. Episodes 4 and 5 are some of the Best Star Wars ever done.

[@sonnyhernandez8333]

I feel like the light saber stomach stab is the is the "challenge" that female characters have to over come in their character arch

[@luizperes3057]

Everybody else before this just died

[@LordBaktor]

It is also absolutely ridiculous. If a hard enough punch to the face makes your knees wobble, imagine sudden and severe stabbing trauma to the abdomen. Anyone hit with that would keel over and split themselves in half on the still ignited lightsaber. Only if the perpetrator immediately turns the saber off would you have a chance of surviving such a wound.

[@antichad7541]

I think the problem with translating the animated characters to live action is that the voice actors have embodied the emotions and personality of the characters and that is something that is hard to replicate with brand new actors. I can also tell that the live action shows have carried over a lot of tendencies that may work in the animated series but just don't with live action

[@rosidaze8681]

Agreed

[@Nico-9138]

I'm not sure, Bo Katan was visually and as a character very well reproduced in live action. Maul and Anakin were great in Clone Wars (although I admit their live action counter part existed before, I think live action and animation fit each other well). The problem is the characters are not the same anymore, for whatever reason. Yes Ahsoka has become a wise grey Jedi, but that doesnt mean she should talk so little and be mysterious, she's supposed to be adventurous and talkative

[@zuriyel5368]

I don't think the issue is that they're new actors, but that the new actors aren't good enough to replicate that.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

In my opinion, it should have been an animated series with the art still of The Clone Wars.

[@Mopantsu]

Well chosen voice actors are magic because they have to potray a character in an emotional way the resonates stronger due to the fact it's not a real person or character on screen. All of the personality is in the voice. I think voice actors surpass 'most' live actors in leaps and bounds. Which is why I was pissed that Ahsoka's original voice actor was sidelined from the live action shows. She even cosplays Ahsoka really well. But you know....diversity and all.

[@bcvetkov8534]

Also, a big RIP to Ray Stevenson who played one of my favorite characters in TV history Titus Pullo from HBO's Rome. You will be missed friend. I'm going to watch the rest of Ashoka because of you. So, thank you for everything.

[@TheRogueJedii]

Wow, Rest in peace, son of Rome

[@bryanwigmore7224]

Brilliant actor and character in a brilliant series. Sadly under-watched these days.

[@AndrewNenakhov]

Rome was amazing, but too short

[@777-pdf]

I loved Rome

[@Csimon2429]

13!

[@mrallan8063]

Just have Sabine wear a bikini 24/7 and we'll call it even.

[@clairewarner5704]

Well the 'witch' is clearly one of the 'witches of Dathomir' which is from the Expanded Universe (ya know the one that Disney junked until they realised that people actually liked the characters from it like Thrawn etc.)

[@mr.q8240]

yeap and there where alwas a thing until disney took over... and btw i thought thrawn was eaten by space whales in reblles.. worst death for the best "villian" in whole star wars

[@callumholland8932]

Dave done two playthroughs of jedi surviver and still couldn't let it go lol witches and puzzles xD

[@Cyberclone07]

The withes of Dathomir have always been canon tho. Ever since EU, and have been introduced in Clone Wars as well (You know, George Lucas gave it the green light and helped fleshing out their lore)

[@solomeoparedes8162]

​@@callumholland8932he implemented the witches in clone wars, the f*ck are you talking about? You wouldn't have witches in jedi survivor without him, sit down boy.

[@Deathmare235]

@@mr.q8240he didn’t die, it’s sequelbaiting

[@Aeroshogun]

Disney: “I have altered the deal, pray I don’t alter it any further…” Fans: “This deal is getting worse all the time!”

[@auquitaine9201]

Meanwhile they keep gobbling it up

[@norreras343]

Dude the deal have been altered Soo many times than the surprise would be choose to proceed without altered it

[@zoomerjack5435]

Disney: Furthermore, here is a unicycle. You are to ride it wherever you go.

[@antonab1]

Bob Iger holding up an unsigned extension contract for Kathleen Kennedy for 4 more years. "Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?"

[@Aeroshogun]

@@zoomerjack5435 Fans: “Man I ain’t riding no f***in’ unicycle!” Disney: “I have altered the deal, pray I don’t alter it any further…”

[@amunt3r]

You had me at "character impaled by lightsaber is actually fine rather than suffers heart failure and brain death".

[@elhazelrah]

5:10 Same. All believability just went out the window.

[@dr.bright6272]

The map is straight out of Treasure Planet

[@fidloges8584]

Being stabbed by a lightsaber is now like when you stub your toe, ye it is pain for a while but you will get over it.

[@captainblood9616]

Looked to me like it went right though her liver.. but hey not a vital organ or anything

[@michaelb2westgaedu]

Unless you're male. Then you die or are horribly maimed.

[@DistrustHumanz]

This reminded me of an early Venture Bros episode, where the bee henchman had a lightsaber that did absolutely nothing.

[@antonycharnock2993]

Tis but a flesh wound.

[@captainblood9616]

@@DistrustHumanz Oh yea and he's screwing around doing his lame "Jedi moves" to Brock and it doesn't do shit to him.. love that show.