Oestrogen Expert: Birth Control Changes Who You Are...Would You Still Love Them If You Came Off It?

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[@bluetinsel7099]

When referring to guys having access to more women and women only being able to create with one at a time, it’s essentially quality and quantity, with women being qualitative and the guys being quantitative. More does not mean better, quality is better than quantity and gives better outcomes in the long run. It’s true, if a guy has resources and doesn’t put them toward that woman, the woman typically looks at him as if he has no resources. What good is a guy with resources if he isn’t using them on her, it shows he is stingy and not a good provider or protector and not good as a mate.

[@bluetinsel7099]

If a woman has had a lot of work done, she is not naturally or biologically as she presents which means her genes code for who she was not who she became which influences selection based on looks. That person had to make themselves look like what they were in competition with, to remove access from the naturally biologically beautiful woman to continue on and try to remove her. So attacks on beauty or attempting to get work done to look like the beautiful woman does biologically is a form of competition with other women and to have guys continue on with them rather than the biologically beautiful woman.

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[@SuzanneU]

My experience with using estrogen birth control is that I was a much happier, more relaxed person with more interest in sex. Freedom from fear of pregnancy was amazing - and so was the regulation of my menstrual cycle and huge reduction in blood loss and pain. Endometriosis made my life a misery without the pill. The pill also reduced migraine attacks to bearable. There's never a one-size-fits-all.

[@marlena.34]

Side note… the discussed copper coil IUD comes with its own issues. A big one is that it puts the body into a constant state of inflammation. This comes with a whole new set of issues.

[@mahabukhari8516]

It didnt adjust for me. It caused a utreus inflammation and i had to get a treatment for it. I m still trying to find that is good option for me .

[@marlena.34]

@ Yes. This inflammation is often detrimental. It affects the entire body.

[@terachuu4077]

My mother used IUD, had many discomforts and come to medical practitioner ( we live in secluded area, near forest), far from city. They refused to take it off while my mother has asked for many times. My mother take it off herself in the bathroom, with some bleeding. Many years later she used implant on her arm, and take it off to get my youngest brother.

[@Tracy-r7b]

I became very moody when I was on the pill years ago. When I came off it, I had more energy and was a much happier, calmer person.

[@raifthemad]

Sadly no one in the mainstream dares ask if all this hysteria and man hating, in the modern society is largely tied to most women growing up on the pill, for a few generations now.

[@sophiab.282]

@@raifthemad that is the most idiotic and misogynistic thing ive read today. Congratulations Were you around hundreds of years ago for the hysteria craze? Maybe be less of an asshole and stop trying to control women's bodies.

[@kwadwog8168]

Was it because you were also more in the mood and so getting some had a relaxing effect? Sorry to ask such a question.

[@Aliciae411]

@@raifthemadmost women do not take the pill. It’s about 25% in the U.K. and 12% in the US

[@raifthemad]

@@Aliciae411 Is that data for all ages, or out of those that haven't gone to menopause and are old enough to be prescribed it? Also even 12% of female population being much more irritable, emotional, impulsive and repulsed by masculinity would explain far left quite adequately.

[@EnydCrowfeather]

Whoever edits the intro is a flippin genius! 🤍

[@DorianPaige00]

I'm sure they'll manage to get banned as well as vaccines, SSRI's, gender affirming care, gastric bypass, Ozempic, tubal ligation, vasectomies, condoms, Mirena, and on and on.

[@justinokalla1]

I agree. It's hard to watch long videos but that intro got me and the video lived up to the billing.

[@alynaachim8036]

The pill has helped me a lot, I was suffering really bad with PMDD symptoms. However everybody is different and is very important to find the right pill for your body.

[@thereelfisherwoman]

Same!

[@wackykookykatie]

The pill has been amazing for me as someone with PCOS. I don't have normal estrogen production and it helps to get me back to normal. But it's not a solution for everyone, and getting the right pill for yourself is vital. Some have hormones, others not, some in different amounts, etc.

[@rubytuesday8572]

Same here! The pill helped me both physically and mentally. I will not stop taking it.

[@annabanana50]

The pill has helped me with PMDD and without it I was really anxious and had panic attacks. It really stabilized my hormones

[@CherryJuli]

Every birth pill contains hormones.

[@annabanana50]

@@CherryJuli yes I don’t know why said some don’t

[@NeaZhang]

That is my fear, attempting birth control for prolonged time for it effective and used correctly but then deal with negative side effects and losing all the progress lost.

[@CherryJuli]

When I went off of hormonal birth control I felt like myself for the first time. I find it incredibly dangerous to give this to pubescent girls who struggle psychologically anyways. Then you add this to it and basically make it worse.

[@CLilMR]

Exactly. i was put on them at 13 to help regulate my period pain. it scary for me now to think i was on this for over 15 years before i stopped it...scary to think of all what it has caused or could of.

[@JacquiCryer]

Love this - as a 59 year old woman on HRT I would dearly love a podcast with an expert on maintaining sexual energy / desire going forward into my 60’s.

[@ktkee7161]

Tbh, I think there are better resources for advice on the menopause than a thirtysomething male's one!

[@lizanneward1484]

Check out Dr Lauren Streicher, Dr Kelly Casperson and oh so many more Dr’s with podcasts that provide excellent information on this topic!

[@mkkrupp2462]

HRT for its anti aging effects - sure. Personally though, I’d prefer my only company in bed to be my IPad and my dog.

[@deeray4637]

Eww

[@meaningfulmakings]

@@deeray4637😂😂😂😂

[@aisu1031]

this true for me. My libido & emotion numbed while on birth control for 5 years. I came off of it and got my libido back.

[@mon_ange333mony4]

Why did you sacrifice your libido to continue having intimate relationship with your partner? He could just as well use condoms if you felt unwell on them.

[@SnowYuzu]

can I ask how long it took for your emotions to come back after stopping?

[@FranciscaR]

same

[@FranciscaR]

@@SnowYuzu for me it took almost 6 months to really regulate my hormones... not my period that was actually solid and very on clock but regulating everything else yeah almost 6 months

[@aisu1031]

It took me about 4months to get my usual self back. Also, it took about 3 month to get my period back.

[@PhDnursepractitionerAGACNP-BC]

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[@solairith6467]

Hormonal birth control has been a godsend to me. It has controlled and suppressed the horrors of endometriosis for decades. I could not have held a job without it. I know we're all different, but it has never lowered my emotional capacity or libido. No weight gain or acne. I feel so much better on it. Older now and fully intending to get on HRT as soon as possible.

[@CherryJuli]

You don’t know if it had effects on your because you’ve been on it for so long. I guarantee you it does have effects on your emotions. It’s hormones. It’s what they do.

[@KD214_]

It helped with my ovarian cyst for a while. I lost insurance for just over a year, ended up with ovarian cancer. - cyst grew and grew and 2 types of OV cancer formed inside a 21 pound tumor. 🙃🫣

[@AstraeaJustice]

I think for you it’s because have a hormonal imbalances that is addressed by pills (lacking or too much). I have also reproductive hormonal issues but I other issues like adhd/ autism and cptsd that will be amplified by pills. Yes, I was depressed with it during and after and not just I believe I have psoriasis symptoms and it also affected my joints. I’m my joints was always inflamed

[@wagonwheelgirl8897]

@@CherryJuliEndometriosis left untreated has long term effects too through, it causes your hormones to be unbalanced.

[@wagonwheelgirl8897]

👋🏿 Hello fellow endometriosis sufferer. I’m the same as you, the pill has made life liveable for me and rebalanced my hormones. I’m tired of this not being mentioned in discussions about the pill.

[@elisal318]

Never been on birth control I am 27 yo and I been celibate.

[@blueseptember2174]

That's amazing. You'll never regret looking after your health in your youth ❤

[@Onguta]

Wow❤

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

Celibate by choice? Not trying to be insulting I’m genuinely curious.

[@TM-100]

I am happy I waited for my husband 😊. Self respect in my books. I never used the pill because of varicose veins. I only knew that's a problem because a PHARMACIST told me.

[@SuzanneU]

Things may change - for example, you may get into a serious relationship/marriage to a man who won't use condoms every time, and you may not want a baby a year!

[@justpassingthrough.]

Can confirm! When I finally began to come off birth control I realized I had zero attraction to the guy I was with from high school - college.

[@bobbybilly-xn4ch]

That's sad for him

[@hedwigwendell-crumb91]

How did you break up with him?

[@nirradical]

How long were you with him? Did you think you were still attracted to him while you were on birth control? Or you were still attracted to him, but then you weren't? Elaborate!

[@Coorweiser]

He didn't deserve your puh, you go girl!🎉❤

[@cheeryberrie]

​@@Coorweiser shorty mad

[@AmaniCarson]

I was on the pill for nearly 20 years. I had no side effects in that time. When I came off I was expecting to feel different like people say, but I didn't. If anything I miss being on the pill because my periods make me really ill and the pill stopped that. I think it can be about finding the right pill (for those who will benefit from it.) I went through trial and error and there have been some pills that made me feel awful. But the one I landed on had no issues for me.

[@Suzoebas]

Same here. I actually miss the pill because it made me have only 4 periods a year. Fewer periods, less cramping and pain. It was a wonderful. Maybe you are right, everyone has to find the right one for their body.

[@thesupergreenjudy]

Same here - had horrific periods. The pill and later the Mirena stopped that.

[@ras8124]

Thank you for sharing a positive story.

[@ReturnoftheZac]

Which pill did you take for 20years

[@okyoky405]

​@@ras8124 its post truth era

[@Alisa-j4m]

Your videos are more than just entertainment, they are a journey into a world of beauty and wisdom. Thank you for your dedication!Your videos are always filled with deep meaning and emotion. Thank you for your creativity and effort!🔞🦛🐡

[@Nka861]

I almost got divorced because of the birth control pills. It was my first time taking them after I got married and I swear I became someone else. I thought I was going crazy and that my husband is the one who was making me crazy! I vividly remember crying my eyes out and telling him “I’m a calm person and everyone in my family and friends say that about me but I’m going crazy with you!!” One day he saw the pills and took them away and said this is what’s making you crazy “we had a HUGE fight about this and because I’m in the UK I couldn’t easily get another prescription immediately“ but 3 days later I noticed I started to wake up not furious or sad and that I started to like my husband again and not every little thing he does drives me crazy!! Bottom line, those pills are scary!

[@eloisebrynlee]

I am so glad it saved your marriage! 🤍

[@CherryJuli]

I‘m glad it turned out well for you. But your partner taking away your meds without your consent is still an absolute no-go.

[@Nka861]

⁠@@CherryJuli that was a poison to my mind and body not a life saving medication. I’m glad my husband had the love and the courage to step up and show me where things were going wrong and chose to make a difficult decision for me when I wasn’t in the right mental state to do it for myself. Sometimes that’s what family members need to do for each other.

[@Mr_Penguins_Pet_Human]

My wife went through something similar and it out a lot of pressure on our relationship. It took us awhile to realise it was the pill but when we did she came off and our relationship improved dramatically. She was recently diagnosed with ASD and we now know women with ASD are particularly sensitive to hormonal changes.

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

@@CherryJulihard disagree for this situation. Another example- my mother was put on clonopin (an anti-psychotic) for major depressive disorder. My mother was a shell of who she was… when we figured out it was the clonopin, we figured it out before she did. My mother didn’t have the ability to even advocate for herself correctly because of the mental state she was in. Getting her off of those medications is why my mother is still here today. Actually going to our first prenatal appointment and I’m grateful my mom is here to come with my husband and me. Moral of the story: please don’t be close-minded. The world isn’t always so black and white. There is A LOT of grey area.

[@SvetaR]

Nice talk, but you did not let her get to the most important part for women- she was going to mention a few new birth control directions researchers are working on and you interrupted her, also there was no answer to what Dr. Sarah considers the BEST birth control method today.

[@theastrologeek7876]

30 min in and i LOVE her well thought out balanced and differentiated opinion… a true scientist and an excellent observer … a gift for all 🥰

[@SusannMarieDye]

Went from the pill straight to HRT and I am glad I did.

[@leilap2495]

I tried birth control for a couple episodes in college. I didn’t like how I felt on it. After college, I didn’t use birth control again for about 20 years. I was extremely hesitant to try it again, but it was prescribed to me for ovarian cysts. It has been very effective in preventing cysts and has been helpful for premenstrual dysphoria.

[@YalumoTaofeek]

From Nigeria, I am happy to know you are one of us

[@nirradical]

Are you one of Steven's 100 cousins? 😆

[@tiesiai_per_aplinkui]

I didn't had a regular period when I was 16-17, they gave me the pill to "fix thę problem", I drank it for 3 months, hated it, had terrible migranes, strong PMS symptoms etc., and I said to my mom that I feel terrible and I won't drink it. My period got normal by age 21-22 with out any hormonal intervention.

[@thestandoutpodcast]

This is a fascinating and important topic. It challenges us to consider the potential impact of hormonal birth control on our sense of self. It's a conversation that needs to be had.

[@thekaileykizzeshow1851]

I am 43 and I have never ever used the birth control pill. I have one child. My alternatives have always been condoms and abstinence. I always know when my period is coming because I get so "worked up" days before, so I stopped actually writing down what day my period would come because my body always tells me.

[@SuzanneU]

If you have a man who always always uses condoms and applies them properly - bully for you!

[@mickeyoshea2035]

Sounds like me to the tee.

[@km6852]

And me too

[@SOFTCOCOGIRL]

This is SO TRUE. I had birth control since my 11th birthday. I gained in weight big time. I was often in a bad mood. I didn’t like guys as much as before. I was sick during each period. I had different birth controls. But instead of keeping me of birth control the doctors recommended every time a different one. Instead of asking if the guy wanted to use a condom. I had severe lung bleeding not long ago. Needed to change birth control again!!! Then I saw on the internet a women who exposed what birth control really is!!! My eyes were opened. I stopped using it. Saw that my recent partner had toxic traits, found real nice man when I started dating again. No more emotionless moods, bad moods, lack of energy, I lost weight, I feel my emotions way more etc. I am 30 now and wished I stopped way sooner 😢. My health is ruined and lost precious time in my teens and 20’s.

[@EvoraGT430]

"Saw a woman on the internet".......explains a lot of craziness these days.

[@SOFTCOCOGIRL]

@@EvoraGT430I mean an interview like this one. Someone from healthcare. Not a random influencer. Don’t make such assumptions without reading correctly and thinking before emotions take the leading in your keyboard acts

[@jennyj0007]

I am convinced women put on weight using it., all the women I knew who were on it were overweight before and after having kids. I was only on it for 6 months and it also took me 3 yrs after getting married to conceive.

[@charlynebeker9691]

Is birth control cheating choice that is producing females who are CAT WOMEN and being more single or not child bearing in marriage?

[@ouammarakila7049]

It's sad, you start birth control at 11th. You were almost a baby. Why this crazy society push weman to have sex and date earlier. Is there nothing to learn in this life except dating? Girls should be more aware of their value outside dating. Girls are much more than a partner to a man, who could unfortunately ruin their lives 😢. Be aware of your own value ❤

[@qr5vy]

As a woman living with intense PCOS, the Pill gave me a normal life and I am so grateful for it. I was on it almost continually for 28 years. Every time the doctors tried to get me off the pill, it went very badly, very fast. Took me years to recover physically each time and I had to get high doses of hormones to get there (I was very lucky, no psychological fluctuations). Most of all, it gave me my son (on my own, I had no cycles or ovulation and for a couple of months after coming off the pill I still ovulated- I kept getting ultrasounds to find out when and my boy was the wondrous result). But that was for me: it successfully addressed my pathological profile. The Pill is a drug, it should be regarded as such. If I had zero health issues, I would be skeptical, knowing what I know. I would not mess with my hormonal state lightly. But for some women, it truly is a godsend.

[@maralj5261]

Great info. Specially the episode about groundbreaking cancer expert. You definitely got my subscription.

[@ChaChaRah]

I remember when I got on it the first time my drive went way down. I asked my doctor about it and his first question was, well are you attracted to your partner. I was very much at the time. It’s was the pill that changed things.

[@evendimensionn952]

Thank you Steven. People forget that condoms exist.

[@Thomasfboyle]

People forget that real, raw, natural sex exists.

[@NannyOggins]

I don’t think they forget, I think they are just unwilling to use them. Men have traditionally made birth regulation the responsibility of women.

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

@@ThomasfboyleI don’t think anyone is forgetting that….

[@cor3944]

Men’s semen is also full of useful hormons for women…

[@universaltoons]

0:00 Thank you Logan, Lance, Elaina Lovell, Chris, Will, Tito, Audrey, Jeremy, Pablo and Zoe for all of your hard work on the videos. I genuinely adore watching all of your movies, both old and new. It's already a banger. ❤️

[@BrandonJPeck]

1:23:06 why is the diction for men “struggling”, and for women it’s “attracting”. Let’s end this narrative that men are struggling and women aren’t.

[@marklangerexcuseless]

Brilliant podcast... I'm interested in everything you've brought to the attention of everyone...

[@towpottsfam7631]

Yup always avoided it as I didn't like what it did to my personality and libido

[@Balikini24]

I was on the pill for 29 years and loved them! My sex drive was great, I didn't gain weight, my mental health was good....I had no issues at all and life was good! Finally went off them in my very late 40's and my new partner turned husband had been vasectomised!

[@margok904]

When I was on a pills!.,Was zero sex drive,nothing ,We need different solutions.😊

[@rayna599]

I went on the pill on two separate occasions in my 20’s, one bout for 3 months and the other for 6 months. I found that my emotions dipped right away and I became VERY moody most of the time when I typically was very content and even-tempered. I had to explain this to partners or people I was close to because I was cognizant of the change, but couldn’t control or ease it. My libido disappeared too, which was weird to experience at that age. Both times I stopped taking the pill, my mood got better within a few days, my cycles were normal and predictable without it, and I got my sex drive back. Lesson learned, and thankfully with all of this new information, I stayed off the pill that second time and continued happily on for the next decade through the present using condoms and natural methods of family planning/contraception.

[@eloisebrynlee]

Yep! Very similar! I just wished KZbin was around at the time for me as it would have made the whole experience less mysterious and I would have had so much more solidarity on the issue. I though it was just me.

[@MJSMJSMJS]

Best decision of my life was being pill free, no more acne, obesity or depression.

[@NoellevanMuiden]

This was one of your best Podcasts. We have known for SO LONG that the Pill is bad for women. In the late 1990's already. Now, 30 years later, we are only starting to talk about it. Loved your guest today. Concise, empassioned, accurate. Thank you.

[@nirradical]

I'm 1/4 of the way thru and I really hope Steven asks a question that has baffled me since college...why when you are in a relationship do you get more attention from girls? And I'm talking about girls at the bar who don't know you're in a relationship. Is it because you subconsciously give off the vibe that you are unavailable/not desperate? If you're single do you subconsciously give off the vibe you're more desperate? It's always fascinated me because every time I've been in a relationship I get more attention from girls, but then when I'm single I seem to be invisible.

[@poojasharma-xc9un]

I think you answered your question already

[@cthornton523]

It's called the girlfriend effect.

[@PookieYan]

I know of two factors, well heard of anyway. I've heard that you give off different pheromones when you're getting laid, both genders i think. The second thing I've heard of is there is apparently a psychological dating behavior where if someone is wanted and desirable to someone else, you'll want them too.

[@Jenncysworld]

I've been off birth control for over 10 years, best decision in my opinion. Never going back!!!

[@MB-hz7wm]

Read Malcolm Gladwell's book, "What the Dog Saw." It goes into how BC was invented by the Catholic Church (a male). I was listening to this on audiobook and had to pull over on the side of the road I was so shocked to learn the full story.

[@debbieshultz7335]

One of the doctors was Catholic, that doesn’t mean it was invented by the Catholic Church. Catholics aren’t to be on any form of birth control, to be in full compliance with the church.

[@angrybird1960]

also one of the BC "Fathers" Carl Clauberg ...

[@v9b23j]

45:39 A woman who is no longer a friend of mine for good reason made up a lie and told me directly that some men were complaining about pictures of me that I shared on social media and the way I dressed. She said that these men, without specifying who they were, were talking behind my back about how I should dress more discreetly and age-appropriately. This is an example of intersexual female competition.

[@mkkrupp2462]

There’s no need for women to wear low cut clothing and show their cleavage. It’s so vain. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of modesty - from BOTH sexes. (I’m a woman btw).

[@thenut1212]

@@mkkrupp2462That’s your opinion, not a flat fact, and that’s how you made it sound. What’s right for you isn’t necessarily what’s right for everyone (or anyone) else). We need to stop perpetuating that what is our preference, is what everyone else’s should be.

[@jessietreverton3191]

@@mkkrupp2462 Women should wear what they like, you do you and let other people be who they want and dress as they want.

[@rach_storm-007]

and yet, what is the alternative for women who do not want to become pregnant, or don't want to have a large family (if they are able)?

[@siphamandlamkhize9766]

A man must pull up his pull out game

[@wmom1816]

Condoms. Never let me down 20 years. Hormonal birth control made me sick!!

[@madamew3985]

Change your thinking. Invest your life in people--they last forever.

[@rach_storm-007]

@@madamew3985 so by your thinking, birth control just shouldn't be a thing? women shouldn't have a choice?

[@Anna-ri8mp]

Condoms?

[@InimitaPaul]

Getting off birth control until you find a partner is useless if you go back on it once you’ve found the right man because you’ll revert once you start taking it again, I found the right girl and she wasn’t on it at the start and she totally changed when she started taking it and even acknowledged it when I brought it up. I saw it a mile off and brought it up repeatedly and as she was a pretty logical girl she could only deny it for so long. We broke up in the end because I couldn’t stand to be around her once she upped it from the pill to an implant in her arm, she completely changed after that, not even close to the girl I first met. Birth control will be looked back upon as a curse on humanity and not just because of the hormonal issues, and that’s not hyperbole.

[@m.m.6670]

As a woman, I want to agree with you 100%, but at the same time - some of us are forced to take hormonal birth control as a way to control such incurable (for now) disorders as endometriosis or PCOS. Until more funding is finally given towards women diseases research, we're failing women all over the world and then blaming them for taking the pill when it's the only way that supposedly helps or, in the case of healthy women, put 100% responsibility on them when it comes to pregnancy prevention and then blame them for doing it. It's a much deeper issue that needs to be completely overhauled. Until we do this, we're going to continue to see unhappy couples and, what's even more concerning, fertility issues soar.

[@InimitaPaul]

@m.m.6670 I appreciate where you’re coming from but I’m not talking about women who take it as a medical protectant, I’m talking about your average everyday women who’s using HBC without realising the side effects or even just dismissing them because of the ease of use. There will always be outliers but it’s the global average of women that need to give it some serious thought, awareness needs to be massively increased. A woman could go from being a teenager on HBC stopping only to have children (more hormone spikes), back on HBC and then on to menopause without ever knowing who she really is without hormonal imbalances, that’s not only sad but disturbing as I’m certain plenty of women have gone down that path. It is of course a personal decision but like I said, awareness needs to be improved massively so that decision can be made properly.

[@fangirl7914]

With abortion rights being overturned, women need birth control more than ever. It doesn't matter who we become on it.

[@KAS1JM]

​@@m.m.6670thanks for sharing your experience

[@Curmudgeonist]

"she was a pretty logical girl she could only deny it for so long" Sounds like she knew it would ruin your relationship and chose to do it anyway. Avoiding long-term commitment to you by having kids was her priority.

[@Wild4lon]

Some of her answers leave a very bad taste in my mouth. The patriarchy is not just because of men trying to impress women. Don't try to pass it off as being that simple.

[@Rno352]

I agree, it was feeling a little propaganda like especially given what’s going on with Women’s health right now I am

[@rn87mom94]

@@Rno352 She works at a Christian college. She’s not a medical doctor.

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

She was explaining the biological reasoning that the patriarchy formed… you have aced the art of missing the points, babes.

[@BrandonJPeck]

1:37:07 abstinence is never an option people talk about.

[@simonoregan4744]

Abstinence is its own punishment. Good luck with that. Look around at the planet. Principles will never overcome biology.

[@rn87mom94]

@@simonoregan4744 Humanity exists because we are supposed to want to procreate.

[@SuzanneU]

Not a whole lot of husbands are keen on abstinence! Are you assuming that only promiscuous single women use hormonal birth control?

[@KhadijaBey-g9c]

It's always an option.

[@BrandonJPeck]

19:27 she missed the point that women with a lot of resources aren’t more attractive to men.

[@Rno352]

I was interested knowing if they would touch on this because it’s true and women out earning men it can lead to issues.

[@osmanpatates536]

Thank you- i was looking for this comment. My experience in dating men without the same credentials or earning power- or even conventional attractiveness- as me, has been that they eventually leave the relationship due to insecurities resulting from this. Men, probably due to conventions of patriarchal masculinity, only feel safe to commit to a woman they consider below them. I have heard many men say that they couldn’t consider a real relationship with a woman more attractive or with more resources because it “would cause trouble” or they “dont want to deal with it.” So ladies, forget this “date down” message. It all comes down to finding someone who you find attractive enough at the baseline (and vise versa) who values relationship, shares a similar vision to you for their life, and can communicate. And again, for many reasons based in toxic masculinity, that is hard. Good luck. May we all find the healthy love and support we crave.

[@KhadijaBey-g9c]

She's leaving out alot of things.

[@JayAlex-y8f]

She seems to focus on the biological and financial impact on relationships. The emotional impact is a future of sad depressed cat ladies.

[@johntravis7304]

We’re not insecure. We just realize women won’t respect us if we earn less/they don’t need us. “I love you” is what a woman needs to hear from a man. “I need you” is what a man needs to hear from a woman. It’s not insecurity or a power struggle or control. It’s biologically deep in our DNA.

[@kerriehirst9489]

I can relate to this, I came of the pill 1 year ago and now do not suffer from anxiety and low moods, also my figure is where I want it to be and I have increased set drive, but I was put on a progesterone only pill due to having a blood clot. The previous pill I was on which was combined worked well but still had it's implications.

[@noemidoskocilova5745]

oh my god.. are u kidding me! This is incredible episode. I have just come out from a relationship and no libido (like none) was one of the reasons for our breakup

[@Qasimbek_official]

Assalomu alaykum I'm from Uzbekistan. It's really useful podcast for learn English

[@terachuu4077]

Wa'alaikumsalam wr wb, sister, from Indonesia😊. It is useful to test your listening skill a lot. Broaden our perspective.

[@fatcatmamma]

If you suffer from menstrual issues then the pill is often the only thing that will help. You're between a rock and a hard place.

[@SunraeSkatimunggr]

Very interesting subject to this elder woman. It explains so much about my life on so many levels. Thanks again.

[@Zantemakeup]

Yes I don’t like who I am when I’m on the pill. Now I’m not using it and I am not sexually active I am extremely happy. Maybe it’s because I don’t have a man though, we can’t be sure

[@WhatIsRealAnymore]

No. it's what the medicine did to your mind at the time. Being in love and having sex with a man as a heterosexual healthy woman should only make you happy.

[@justinokalla1]

I'm grateful for this discussion by the host and guess. For me ultimately, it's about the knowledge. Ensure you look at all scenarios honestly and make your choice but be bold to live with the personal consequences.

[@aleashawallace7537]

I basically lived with depression and anxiety for 18 years. I was overweight. When I came off the pill my life changed dramatically. Not before getting a nice cervical ectropion from excess oestrogen. The copper coil was not much better. Came off everything and I've never understood my own body better.

[@WhatIsRealAnymore]

Good for you. My wife has also never used birth control and she is healthier than almost all other women I see around me. Trying to control biology is not working out for humanity 😂

[@Aliciae411]

@@WhatIsRealAnymoreto be honest it’s not trying to control biology in a lot of women. A lot of women are prescribed birth control as a way of treating many female health complaints without trying to solve the cause of the problem. Acne? Try birth control. Painful periods? Try birth control. Irregular or heavy periods? Try birth control. Pms or pmdd and mood issues? Try birth control. Pcos? Try birth control. Endometriosis? Try birth control. It’s a real shame.

[@nikiobermajer]

I stopped taking birth control pill after 11 years (starting from age 19) and I was wearing a health tracker smart ring that tracked my sleep and physical activity. I was shocked to see that ALL of my metrics (HRV, respiratory rate, resting heart rate, stress, recovery, etc.) improved significantly a week after I got off the pill. I had no idea it had such a negative effect on my heart and overall wellbeing...

[@5tel7a]

It’s not only about education and resources.. can you imagine a the conversation and the comon interests between an educated women with a non educated man who as a man what to be “the boss” in the relationship??

[@Photik]

Education means that you can retain information. Doesn't mean you're smart.

[@KimberleyLevi]

This happened to me! Was on birth control from 16 till 21 and was with a whole different kind of man then than I am now. When I went of it my relationship I had at that time ended very quickly after being with him for two years. Didnt feel it anymore.

[@WhatIsRealAnymore]

So this tells me the pill actually changes your brain structure as a woman. Only thing that can make sense. Suddenly not "feeling" the relationship is only part of that story. Hope you're happy now off the stuff.

[@SerenityChrist]

I am a die heart fan of yours Steve, After reading your book I have a hard time gripping on any other book... A lot of love all the way from Tanzania 🇹🇿. I would love to visit your studios and see the behind the scenes of your show ❤

[@mkkrupp2462]

Dr Hill is a social PSYCHOLOGIST affiliated with the Texas Christian University in Fort Worth Texas, which was founded by the Disciples of Christ denomination. She is not a medical doctor or endocrinologist and has zero background in how medications, hormones or how the human body works. Studies based on looking at photos or sniffing t-shirts are highly questionable and mean nothing as far as causation. Literally anyone can write a book and publish it. But her book will probably sell well given the growing level of misogyny in our world and the backlash against female empowerment since the advent of the pill in the 1960’s . Millions of women love the pill - not only for its reliability as a contraceptive but also how it can help reduce heavy menstrual flows. And any side effects are minimal compared to the problems resulting from repeated pregnancies and births.

[@Olyrous]

Are women having so much unprotected sex to justify taking the pill regularly? I'm amazed how common unsafe sex is presented to be by women.

[@GraceVJohnson]

@@OlyrousThrough anecdotal experience from friends, a lot of men pressure their partners as they “don’t like the feel of condoms”

[@charvdgaag]

psychologists definitely get biological eduction. She probably has a better view than a normal doctor since they receive ZERO psychology education. So she is better setup to combine these two disciplines than a doctor would be.

[@annmariebudyn]

How can any thinking woman not be aware that putting hormones into your body won't have any effect on the body?

[@AstraeaJustice]

It is not minimal it caused me to spiral deeper into my depression. It made my joints swollen. There was a woman who was a MEDICAL doctor who developed endometriosis from using first generation pills for her acne. She eventually developed endometrial cancer and died from it. You can see more about her in KZbin. I saw her video here. I’m not interested in your point what I am interested is about big pharma not being transparent once they knew a medicine isn’t safe long term they will hide it under the rug. And about your point why don’t you put pressure on men to protect them and women since they’re the ones who are more active than women and not burden women with those synthetic hormones?

[@agatamars]

The side effects of birth control pills are well known, just read the leaflet, guys. No one is forcing you to take the pill, you always have a choice. The pill is ideal for some, and not ideal for others, as with many other drugs. And for many women pill is a health and live saver.

[@Klute1977]

Yeah while its useful to be aware of the drawbacks its still imporant to keep in mind how much good the pill has done for women in the past several decades. Personally I have never really used it but I still think its an amazing peice of health care that should be available to any woman who needs or wants it.

[@7BigJoe7]

Amazing, more of this!

[@lorainec1435]

For myself as a woman I’m not so sure how biologically ingrained the “dating up” is… my parents always told us that love is the most important thing in a partner and I followed that.. I think we can move the needle socially pretty quickly. I’m a woman that wants to provide and I’ve never had a problem dating someone that doesn’t- If anything that can be a better match..

[@smileographer]

my mouth dropped when she said the more attracted and less and i thought about who i dated when on it verse when not and OMG...

[@ck868ck]

Men are more willing to make the trade offs? Women haven't been given the option for long enough for any of her statements to really hold much validity.

[@shariragonzalez6106]

Nothing would screw my mood more than getting pregnant and having to raise a child I don't want, or dealing with an abortion

[@mahletgebru6900]

Hb the copper iud?

[@KD214_]

@@mahletgebru6900 causes inflammation in a women’s body. Which is no good

[@meaningfulmakings]

Today I’m sick of self improvement podcasts. I just want to stop worrying, stop trying to be better, thinner, fitter, more optimized. Maybe I’ll have a week of just telling myself I’m lovely just as I am. 😊

[@swatmann7541]

The pill messes women up so badly. Any bloke who won't "wrap it up" is just a massive sook. Slightly less pleasure to have your partner go through this is just selfish and don't be shocked. This isn't new, just her book is.

[@Arthur-xy6wt]

It is crazy to think so much of what she is saying, I had suspicions about for years. This is a conversation that should be taking place at the highest levels. I see why Steven says that this could be a dangerous topic to discuss. Smh.

[@mkkrupp2462]

“Oestrogen is known to nudge women’s preferences when it comes to their romantic partners to favour qualities that are associated with masculinity and higher testosterone: square-cut jaws, broad shoulders and brow ridges, for example. But research suggests pill-taking women - in their state of artificial progesterone dominance and lacking a cyclical oestrogen urge - seem to prefer the faces of men who are less masculine. The implication is that if a woman chooses her partner when she’s on the pill and then goes off it - it might lead to relationship dissatisfaction because she no longer finds herself as attracted to the person. It is a possibility that women should at least keep in mind.” WTF! This statement intended to apply to half the world’s population is a bit far fetched, to say the least. Women are more than 4 billion on this planet and vary so much as individuals. The so called ‘research’ was one small study in 2012 looking at the faces of couples. Nothing since then. Hardly proof. In fact, it’s a lot of crap - there are a multitude of reasons why couples break up.

[@AF_1892]

Poor women are never educated on the fact that birth control pills totally ruin your athletic performance zap your testosterone, make you fatter and lower your sex drive. I learned that later on in medical school due to how it affects sex hormone binding proteins in your blood. Well my jerk boyfriend kept on being a jerk. My track career in high school totally got a boost as soon as I got off of that crap. Besides immediately way better body composition, I was definitely lifting and jumping way harder than before.

[@WhatIsRealAnymore]

And are you healthier in your sex drive? Has that also returned to normal?

[@SuzanneU]

Other women have different experiences. I doubt that Olympic level female athletes and prima dancers don't use the pill.

[@Gollybone]

54:32 This is intriguing. Steven, please could a talk be held on PSSD (Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction,) as, similarly, an increasing many have experienced years of the detrimental impact of prescribed Anti-Depressants influencing one's access to, and experience of, emotion and libido (blunting/flattening,) the introduction of genital numbing, as well as cognitive side effects, even years after discontinuation. I think such a talk could help inform many and potentially explore how those affected might begin to remedy this condition.

[@marcodomingues498]

Its insane for me how at 8:30 the conversation is "woman want a man that makes more than them, and are not marring because there are no good options". I obviously understand how "good option" is relative, however, it is still crazy for me how not earning more immediately makes someone not a "good option" for said woman. Its interesting how almost all data on man preferences works as "add up", meaning that man start from the position where they want to reproduce and pretty much every thing adds up on top of that, whilst almost all data on woman preferences work more like "blockers", they start from a position where they dont want to reproduce and you gotta make them believe otherwise. Its not that you need to be taller than X cms/inches, is that you can't be shorter than that value. Its not that you need to make more than X, is that you can't make less than X. Furthermore, we have studies displaying that the preferences of said woman adapt to the population that they have access to, meaning that an average guy (average for the total population) has more chances in a group where the group average is bellow the total population average than in a group where the group average is higher than the total population average (Eg: americans going to asian countries to get woman) When the male and female reproductive mechanics are joined, the result is hypergamia, which we are starting to verify on america

[@Zerion]

All these games and struggles just to produce offsprings to be brainwashed under the system of surveillance capitalism, good job human!

[@mennamuhsen1637]

Reproduction comes with a great cost for women, physical , psychological, risk of death during child birth and disadvantage to career path since also women are expected to be the primary care givers. Alot of cases too the man just leaves and the women carries the financial burden too of raising children on top of everything else. All that while a male has really nothing to lose and bears no cost or risk to his body or career not to mention sex is really no that enjoyable to women unlike how it is for males. So naturally women don't want to reproduce but are mostly forced to by men

[@marcodomingues498]

@@mennamuhsen1637 pretty much everything correct until the very questionable "ex is really no that enjoyable to women" and the absolutely insane "don't want to reproduce but are mostly forced to by men" peak insanity this last one.

[@sarahself3604]

I started taking the pill at 17, lost my virginity at 19. Sex was always painful, and I spent time in PT because of it. Eventually found a dr who told me I had Hormonally mediated vestibulodynia as a result of the pill. I had been asking doctors for years why I was sexually dysfunctional and she told me very few gyns seem to even be aware of it as it is not well studied. After few months off the pill and applying a topical hormone gel I got better and have been alright since. Anyways, fuck the pill.

[@DynamiteOD]

Hi Steven, recently you were interviewed on Growth Tank | Meet The Revolutionaries w/Revolut, the presenter didn't introduce herself, was it Alex Scott? Cheers, love your DOACEO, and everything you do!

[@Mr_Penguins_Pet_Human]

I'm so glad my now wife wasn't on hormonal birth control when we met. Women with ASD or ADHD are particularly vulnerable to hormonal contraception, including the hormonal coil. The copper coil is a good non hormonal alternative.

[@aprilstilskin5733]

I don't agree. "The main issue with copper coils (IUDs) is that they often cause heavier, longer, and more painful menstrual periods, which can lead to issues like anemia due to significant blood loss, and this side effect can persist for the duration of the IUD's use." They also can cause infections.

[@destinedtodevinespiritualc119]

I only went on to birth control when i got married and my husband couldn't believe the change in me, he decided to get the snip after our 3 boys came along because he didn't want me to go through it again even though i was willing

[@Benjamin-ft9vt]

I have been following these topics for some time now. And after listening to experts like this woman I realised that the future of dating, demography and economics is Grimm. Modernity and technology made us ignoring our biology.

[@watermelonkitteh2523]

Dr. Anna Lembke next? Thank you

[@lvega5606]

I was on the pill for 20 years and then came off of it a year ago (I heard it might help reduce risk of breast cancer to not be on it). I haven't noticed anything different in my mood or personality. When I think about it, my sex drive has been a bit lower the past year. The only major change is now I have normal (i.e. very annoying) periods, cramps, and bloating being off the pill, instead of light periods. I don't care if it slightly increases risk of breast cancer and heart disease, I'm going back on it. When I'm on the pill I can feel good all days of the month, instead of being out of service 1 day a month, and having to spend time managing my period 4 additional days, and the worst is the bloating.

[@OwenFriday13]

There was a detailed breakdown of something like this in a channel called TLDR years ago and it made sense to me then. Glad this is brought up again. Also, whatever happened to the male birth control?

[@Cheydiary]

I went on birth control early in a relationship, I ended up marrying him, and later I developed a small liver tumor due to the pill so I went off. For literal years I had struggled with suicidal thoughts, mood swings, and obviously eventually got a tumor. When I finally went off, I felt like I could think clearly for the first time. I also realized I was not attracted to my husband and I stopped making excuses for abusive behavior and got a divorce about 16 months after coming off the pill. I will never take it again

[@staxmigler4383]

I would absolutely love it if you could have Prof. Dr. Hans-Georg Moeller on your podcast to discuss his take on morality. His message is important in these times of political polarization and deserves to be heard by more people. He offers a more nuanced perspective on the topic compared to the likes of Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris."

[@Gianina-t6q]

Im happy I have never taken any birth control... it's awesome. Also, if you are with the right partner, you need to.

[@annaifos]

I’m so glad I never jumped on the pill wagon

[@OfficerPapi]

Lmao this is a Red pilled man’s DREAM video. She confirmed everything 😂🎉❤

[@DataDashy]

Except she forgot to mention that most of the guys these days don't even get women due to womens sky high unrealistic expectations

[@birgitmitchell5648]

I love your channel. You ask the most perceptive & incisive, & inspiring questions. In this fashion you bring out the most thoughtful answers in your guests, of any interviewer on you tube. Occasionaĺly, i have seen your guests being interviewed by someone else at some time in the past. You always somehow give them more room, or, ask more exacting questions, or some" Je ne sais pa"that gets them to answer in a more profound & thoughtful fashion. In the beginning , i found you to be annoyingly " prep school snotty" but that is long gone. Whether it's me or you I have no idea & don't care. I watch you dedicatedly. If i could figure out how to get my American phone to accept that It has never been to ( and I am no longer in Ksa-) & the charges are represented to me in dollars - I would 100% join your paying subscribers. Maybe by the next phone? Or maybe I'll go back out of the country somewhere else...🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤭🫣👏🏻🎉Keep up the great work.

[@NannyOggins]

I have always been bewildered about the ancient view that it was in the interest of humanity for men to have many children with multiple women. Surely it would mean many of those children and women would not have survived with no support. The same can be said of Lions for example where a male kills the offspring of a defeated rival. Is that good for survival, it’s bewildering to me.

[@NosalFrater]

Hit 250k today. Appreciate you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 24k in July 2024

[@Anderson33-y8l]

This must be an investment with Mrs Geraldine Ann Philip

[@Arizona-d2h]

Wow! Kind of in shock you mentioned expert, Geraldine Ann Philips. What a coincidence!!

[@kudzaindhlala1706]

I have been married for 12 years and have 3 children with my husband. I have never taken birth control in my life😊

[@GeraldineDevlin-y8u]

Amazing how people can describe the narrative to suit their own interpretation. All things being equal , it’s clear the disparities will dissipate. Change is necessary……a given process in evolutionary terms.

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

What are you on about Geraldine?

[@benking9503]

She's not from a council estate is she 😆 I can laugh about it because I am and I've seen things happen completely differently

[@gegemc1565]

Didn't think I would get a laugh today 😂

[@donahunt832]

MEN dont handle those kind if relationships where the woman earns more, has a better job, more prestige and her own resources ☹️. Also from experience, being unequally yoked quickly becomes unsatisfying for one or both partners, believe me.

[@MikaelJohannesson-j1z]

So odd that she didn't mention the other alternatives to birth control, like the copper IUD for instance...

[@mahletgebru6900]

She did mention it

[@Happydays992]

I felt like i woke up too! Fucken amazing

[@valliwulf]

I had the most amazing relationship with a girl back in 2003 when she started on Implanon approximately 4 months of use we were done, I watched her go in to date so many toxic men who took advantage of disrespected the situation. Another example, My now ex-wife started fertility drugs and became emotionally unhinged and demonstrative. There are plenty more examples of situations I have observed but these two will do.

[@samanthaw1419]

Great! This lady needs to look at HRT next. x

[@florance333]

I was on the pill for 6 years, all of which with one partner and stayed with him years later. Didn't have these dramatic effects on the video, the only bad thing I suspect it lefte with is migraines that I didn't have before the pill.