Davina McCall: How To Overcome ANY Trauma & Live The Life You Deserve | E210

Davina McCall has been an icon of television for 30 years. The host of Big Brother for over a decade, tens of millions of people looked to Davina to bring a national obsession into their homes.
Topics:
0:00 Intro
02:19 Your most defining moment
13:59 What did you want to be when you were 16?
19:09 When did you first go into TV
23:06 the moment you got off drugs
30:40 Hypnosis healing trauma
35:44 Your desire to be famous
39:31 Your states of happiness now
43:24 Your career in TV
47:26 Manifestation
52:21 Ads
54:10 Your sister Caroline
01:14:02 The process of grief
01:18:20 Your book Menopausing
01:26:42 Men dealing with menopausal women
01:39:09 Forgiving your mother
01:46:37 The last guest question
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[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

If you enjoyed this episode please hit the like button on the video - that's how we determine which kind of guests you like + it really helps the channel - appreciate it - Steven 🙏🏽

[@chrissmith5148]

Keep up the hard work! Your doing great!

[@nicolamatthews2993]

Liked always, thank you for all you do 🙏💙

[@rnphot619]

Love this channel, best wishes from Plymouth .

[@cathyharris-gilliam5164]

i am 65 here in a few days but you young man have touched feelings I buried a long so long ago I dint want to open my closet anymore I thought this sadness this dryness this is what I got maybe the rest of my life...untill I found you!! this show podcast ?? not sure what to call it but I know I'm going on and on but I cannot get enough of you and your guest.i no longer pay a phych... lol its true....thank you

[@cathyharris-gilliam5164]

how many books have both you written and I want to buy them all....

[@sarahserra1630]

Her voice, her way of communicating, her facial expressions, her empathy, her honesty, her awareness…..wow what a complete human being ❤️

[@sametoruc1347]

she needed to be..

[@jeanniesmith3618]

Erh! What this girl needs food! What a bloody mess. 😮

[@kateoc8]

​@@jeanniesmith3618 THAT'S the takeaway you get from this inspirational woman??? Shame on you. She looks amazing. At least 10 years younger than her age. Sounds like a you problem not a davina problem.

[@annecanty1227]

K I'll

[@Libertarian606]

Not unusual in recovering addicts but you’re right, she’s terrific.

[@Minimax04]

‘I’m gonna call someone and get help. I’m fucked.’ Tears flowed there. I am currently recovering from addiction and I never made that call to myself. Instead I’ve lost my family but honestly, listening to these podcasts in the past few months since my revelation all came out has been unbelievable. 4 months clean and things are looking up.

[@deerheart87]

Good keep going recovery is so incredible one day at a time x keep going to meetings x ❤

[@jen6332]

Keep laying the path, 🌹

[@JessMariaDwyer]

Well done. Keep persevering. You can do it. 😊🌻

[@enwe6487]

Congratulations to you! May I ask, what are you doing, how did you stop? Are you doing it alone? As I‘m dealing with the same 🥺

[@Minimax04]

@@enwe6487 Alongside a huge personal thing that I needed to address, too, I have educated myself as to why I wanted the drug in the first place. From there I dived deep into the science behind the effects it was having on me, especially psychologically and how I can therefore use that knowledge to ensure I never allow myself to be in a position like this again. Most importantly, I found Jordan Peterson and listened to his psychological clinician material, mainly with a focus on telling the truth. The results have been profound. Watch the Peterson Diary of a CEO. It changed my life. Whatever you may think of him, his clinical material has been of huge benefit to me.

[@misa5941]

This is incredibly moving. I am so inspired by her. And wow what a way to interview someone without ego - letting them speak, not interrupt etc. When she talked about her sister dying for 20 mins without a word from Stephen, that’s amazing. Especially when she got caught up, that he gave her the room and time to breath without filling in the gap. Amazing.

[@sjdjsijejesj]

i have ZERO attention span but i just sat here for 2 hours completely glued to this. 100% the best podcast i’ve ever listened to some of the stories she told made me fully bawl my eyes out 😭😭Davina is such an interesting woman i could listen to her speak all day.

[@DNS0875]

So you do have attention span. It’s even very active when you sort of really connect with the topic or activity. That’s related to dopamine release in your brain - amongst others-. 👍🏻

[@jaysee7283]

Same, I’ve just sat here completely absorbed from start to finish.

[@leannedunn1417]

What a women, she totally understand an has empathy, I have thee up most respect for her one love 🙏👌🏻💫💞

[@kimsherlock8969]

If you have zero attention..... I have come back to listen It took me many returns to the podcast 😅 sessions of 20 approximate minutes To pause for later 😂😅😊

[@kimsherlock8969]

​@@DNS0875thanks

[@samarajojordan]

This is by far the best episode of The Diary of A CEO to date. It was like listening to a real-life Jacqueline Wilson book.

[@gemwood1386]

Omg yes!

[@charlottematthews6268]

That's what I thought too! I love Jacqueline Wilson

[@shanlemon901]

I agree. So incredibly moving.

[@charsmith8217]

Totally agree, what a great interview

[@ladzclan7054]

Couldn't agree more 👏

[@-TheWealthyMindset]

"Trauma in life can leave deep scars, but it's important to remember that it can also be a powerful catalyst for growth and self-discovery."

[@mangoyacho]

so true!

[@maryryall6829]

Very true

[@IreneRattray]

I stumbled on this interview knowing nothing about Steven or the woman. I will check them out afterwards. My impression of Steven is articulate and intelligent. Upperclass accent from a wealthy family. I observe that he is professional with expressive hands showing possible drama training. Looking at her l think she doesn't suffer fools gladly. Looks hard. Articulate and intelligent. Not a working class upbringing. Mother in Paris whose parents were wealthy. Obviously, she was educated having got her A levels. Seems the drugs didn't stop her from achieving at school. Seems that the type of people l have mentioned get into drugs. A conventional working class person brought up in the 50s who didn't venture beyond their own environment were most unconventional in the 50s.

[@lisawalton4667]

Loved it when Davina said ‘life throws you crepey knees and crepey elbows and crows feet yet a full heart and a peaceful mind.’ ❤

[@jontnoneya3404]

As an American I literally had no idea who this woman was. I came away from this episode with a great deal of affection and appreciation for her and this podcast. Thanks to all involved for a great episode.

[@hotmess2766]

oh yeah mate she's great original big brother presenter Always happy & full of laughter despite her childhood. Happiest person on TV. Lovely woman God bless her. Happiness is a state of mind 😊

[@Lesloi6227]

yes similarly for me too as I'm in Australia although the penny did drop when she mentioned "Long Lost Lives" which I watch on You TUbe and is absolutely heartbreakingly amazing all the time.

[@Foxsuper1]

she's always been a favourite of mine

[@villanelle8888]

Yeah, she's really well known in the UK.

[@TheFaro2011]

Damn. Every Brit grew up with her

[@stuartmills9081]

i love how you just let people speak and don't finish their sentences, it makes for some really gripping and emotional moments that would usually not occur because the interviewer cuts over them or fills the blank space. Well done.

[@pixiepeachyfitness]

Yes ! Fab observation. Shit these comments r actually as intriguing as these conversations. Wow.

[@megantatum3464]

This!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 he reminds me of how the Shaun Ryan show is- they’re there to actively listen to the guests and simply guide the conversation rather than putting themselves at the forefront. This has definitely become my favorite podcast/video series to watch

[@Nous520]

This is such an underrated quality in interviewers yet it’s the MOST important one.

[@erikaignatamusic2771]

Agreed! I also loved that she asked him questions too and got Steven involved more than his usual podcasts. Learnt so much from both of them.

[@phoebemegan]

This has to be the best episode of ANY podcast I have ever listened to. I am completely in awe of this incredible woman. She deserves every great thing that comes into her life. This was heartbreaking, captivating and so honest. Wow.

[@TheMaggie1954]

I totally agree.

[@sharonsteele66]

I also think that Davina is a amazing woman..

[@KS-wl6eu]

Such an honest, open and interesting podcast. Compare and contrast her life with pathetic Prince Harry. He could have used his platform in such a positive way but instead he tries to make himself feel better by diminishing everyone else.

[@Scarle118]

@@KS-wl6eu that was my first thought also. This open-hearted, generous, beautiful soul who only knows how to give love, is the opposite of the self obsessed, nasty, spiteful fool Harry Wales. He isn't fit to wipe her shoes.

[@elizabethbettencourt7956]

Steven is such a good listener. When Davina was telling about her sister, she talked for about 20 minutes with no interruptions, thank you so much 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@julietorrance4306]

WOW! I must admit when seeing her on Big Brother I thought she was fame hungry, attention seeking 'look at me' type of person but after watching this it has changed my perception completely. She is amazing. I cried so many times watching this, what a wonderful person she is!

[@ryanhart4898]

This is why we must not judge people before knowing them

[@wenke6709]

She's such a good story teller. I bawled my eyes out when she told the story of the hypnosis experience. That poor little girl in her, I am glad she found peace.

[@Dancestar1981]

My god talk about neglect how did nobody intervene to protect her and her sister seriously snorting cocaine at 14 mother and daughters

[@nshnsh2972]

Me too!

[@sobare5491]

Omg me too!! Like ugly cried

[@tiffcat1100]

And happiness/reassurance ❤

[@LethoHali]

Same!!!!!!

[@orcawaves]

My god the way I bawled when she spoke of putting the lotion on her sister right before she died. Whoa. How she spoke of getting a rare hug from her mum and it would keep her going for a month.. It makes sense that the moment with her sister meant THAT much to her, when the child in her that was so desperate for loving touch, finally got to have that moment with her closest family member.. it’s equally heartbreaking and heartwarming. What a wonderful, insightful, sensitive woman. I’m very moved by this episode.

[@darlapeelman1610]

Oh my goodness...me too. Wasn't that just so precious? ❤️😥☺️

[@shouldawouldacoulda]

Same x

[@AuntyM66]

Me too😢

[@kizzie219]

Me too..Davina is a great people person. Especially in long lost families.

[@deborahbergman3566]

it's not that deep when others don't want to allow others to see them without clothes on.....I would never even let my mother. that's just me. it's not a big deal.

[@auntrio]

Davina McCall "Getting a no is just a yes that's not happened yet" I definitely want to instill this in my kids!

[@ellie698]

Sounds a bit r@pey to me 😱

[@jayWalk8]

Please don't.

[@ellie698]

That sentiment is what all abusers think as they ignore people's boundaries and coerce and bully to get past no. That's a terrible lesson to teach

[@86sineadw]

We’ve grown up with Davina on our screens. It’s safe to say that there is no one like Davina. There is something powerful and relatable about her. She just puts herself out there and stays true to herself. She makes me want to fully embrace my feminine energy and my authentic self. She is a 👑

[@meretriciousinsolent]

National treasure, without a doubt.

[@carinaa.6394]

I have to be honest...As a German citizen, I have no idea who she is or maybe I'm just a bit too young at 30 but I love her inspirational story and spirit.

[@gilltravers6762]

I found myself really moved by this interview. Raw, and true.

[@bela-sofia34]

Hearing an intelligent, successful, well-adjusted woman describe what it was like to live life with an expressive, chaotic, emotionally unstable mother-which I did as well- is very affirming.

[@MissDarlaDeville]

❤

[@007nadineL]

Ex drug abuser should not be called well adjusted. Words matter

[@kittyroars8758]

Davina's mums behaviour is classic narcissistic mother. I absolutely love Davina 💜

[@willgracie4697]

WOW WHAT A STUNNING PODCAST -I CRIED TEARS ,LAUGHTER AND WAS ENTHRALLED BY THIS AWESOME LADY !THANK YOU DAVINA X

[@BACKO7777]

Can I say as a 52year old man with a hedonistic past going through a divorce and having just left a toxic company, this was a brilliant, lovely episode that has helped me in so many ways-thank you Davina❤.

[@rritz1]

Hope you have as joyous a second spring as Davina 🤞🏼❤️

[@paulsmith5720]

I'm 50 this year and I definitely feel you on this. Great comment. Really inspiring and insightful. I always thought Davina was our age , 50 , early 50s in age. Anyway she looks well and has come through it all and is still here. Much respect. I guess we're all showing how much older we all are now. The 1990's were great. I'm biased I know. Anyway . happy days and just hearing her voice I know she definitely lived it. Only young once and all that. Great stuff and keep on winning.

[@katyparsons5982]

I hope everything gets better soon! Keep your head up

[@doughnutharvest]

I use to work in a studio as an assistant and we had all types of film/TV personalities and celebs come through the door. Davina came in to do an advert one week, and she was so nice and didn't act like a celebrity at all. Lovely woman, glad to see her on here!

[@simonmoon8773]

Lovely to hear that, she always comes across very personable :)

[@zoebowler5664]

I had the same relationship with my mum. This has really made me think. I lived the same way though my teenage years. I gave birth to my daughter at 19 and realised that snorting drugs off the kitchen table with a parent is fundamentally wrong. My children have been given safety and stability. They don’t have to worry about what mood I’m in they can just be themselves x

[@dianebaker5243]

❤❤

[@Bren-ni9iw]

❤🌈

[@rinesserin]

My relationship with my dad definitely did not involve doing drugs together, but he was a very difficult and complicated figure in my childhood. I don't want kids, but if I ever were to have them, I think that creating an environment where they would not have to worry about what mood I'm in would have to be my top priority. Congratulations on being a wonderful mother.

[@zoebowler5664]

@@rinesserin thank you I appreciate that. I hope you are healing from your experience xxx

[@Belovelyava]

Steven, this is why you are a top notch interviewer, your listening skills are bar none! Thank you for letting her say all that she had to say. I was able to feel all that beautiful grief and love. So enlightening. Thank you Davina, so lovely and raw.

[@Readyteddygo]

Davina seems like such a wise, kind and emotional person. I always liked her, this episode made me like her even more

[@innermindworks1030]

Not when you saw the way she belittled Jade Goody for the sake of a television career. Nope!

[@wallybingbang4350]

@@innermindworks1030 What did she say to her ?

[@lifeshort]

@@wallybingbang4350 I'm curious about that too..

[@stepho68]

I love Davina even more after viewing this. She lives 10 minutes up the road and so I’ve crossed her path several times, always says hello with a big smile and is very approachable ❤

[@riatruthseeker9489]

Have you ever told her you've watched this interview and what you think of her ? I'm sure she'd love to hear it

[@innermindworks1030]

Next time you meet her ask her about her behaviour with Jade Goody, that should be interesting!

[@alishaobrien7221]

@@innermindworks1030 so you think Jade being a racist bully was right? Davina was right to call Jade out on it

[@vah1761]

@@alishaobrien7221 Jade Goody was uneducated not a racist.

[@alishaobrien7221]

@@vah1761 all racists seem to be uneducated, funny that because they all had a free education and think education is left wing brainwashing

[@mareemcg]

Davina talks like how i read a book. I can visualise everything she said like watching a film in my head or as i said like how you visualise when reading a book. Amazing story teller. Amazing woman. She shared heart & soul in this.

[@Dzanarika1]

Omg, yes!

[@jomarsh6449]

I was thrilled to listen to the ‘handling’ of losing your sister.. in the past 4 years, I’ve lost 5 siblings to horrible illnesses… freak things… sudden onset cancer/ bad reaction after a knee replacement… ALS( Lou Gerhig’s disease)… ruptured colon ( secondary to agent orange) … followed by a sister in law committed suicide after my brother died from his ALS… I’ve been trying so hard to handle all this…. And I’m anxious to see any type of an upside…

[@moniquew3603]

I'm sorry. That's incredibly hard. I hope you are doing well.

[@Prettydred80]

Praying for your peace and comfort, I’m so sorry. I lost one sibling and it’s still devastating to think about it. Many many blessings I pray fill your empty spaces 🙏🏾

[@007nadineL]

My siblings are horrible monsters who try to ruin my life every day. I wish i was you.

[@fionaolivia704]

Davina many years ago was my Sunday school teacher; she has always had great energy. I remember once she took all the kids in Sunday school for ice cream, I had a Calippo! In case you read this Davina it's the little things like this that are never forgotten to your point about legacy! x

[@handsoffmycactus2958]

Wow she really HAS lived 10 lives haha, Sunday school teacher as well!

[@sevenwilliams3485]

bring back Callipos!!!!

[@c.rambaldi6788]

Revealing and lovely ❤️

[@dancarter482]

HEARTBREAKING!

[@darnitthelma4247]

@@sevenwilliams3485they are still About 😊

[@amytyler9724]

Davina used to live locally to me and is as genuine and lovely as she comes across here. What an incredible, moving, emotional and insightful episode!

[@Hookythehammer]

Same here (Hammersmith) I met her a few times when she was going thru rehab many many years ago. This was before she became famous. I was best mates with one of her narcotic anonymous mentors and he really rated her as a person.

[@innermindworks1030]

Did you not see her annihilate Jade Goody then? I remember it very clearly!

[@archiesnownose2117]

She got off lightly considering her behaviour!

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

@@innermindworks1030 to be honest i do hate the treatment of jade and i never saw that but everyone in our culture was misogynistic and so many women internalised it. you should be having a go at kevin o sullivan and ian hyland. they were both repulsive towards her. kevin should have been sacked.

[@OwningAuthenticity]

I believe we can retrain our mental filter from negative to positive. I started doing gratitude practice daily when I was 28. I was chronically depressed before that (12-28) and basically nothing in my life was making me happy even though on paper I had it all. Within 6 months of practice, my life kind of dissolved and reformed. It was wild! ❤

[@IAMNationX]

As an alcoholic in recovery with a depressive mother I resonate with Davina so much. That place where you can simply BE and feel good about life is overwhelming, almost underserved. I am glad she feels it

[@Sawk_King]

I feel her and connect with you too. I’ll be 9 years sober this year. My mum has bipolar disorder. I’ve always felt detached. We are deserving! ❤

[@cappucinoMix]

I have attempted to meditate many times in my life and prior to this CD the only success I've experienced is with live guided meditation. kzbin.infoUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq This is the first CD I've used that cuts through my unmedicated ADHD and enables me to truly relax and experience a quiet and energizing interval. The instructors voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to. I am easily able to sit successfully through the entire CD, and for quite some time after. I cannot adequately express how tremendously helpful this CD has been on my spiritual journey!! Two thumbs up and 10 stars!

[@MsNigeria]

Hearing Davina talk about climbing the fence of her sister made me cry so much! It's so interesting to see how people illustrate feelings

[@Lisabushaway20]

Having a sister , hearing Davina talk about hers, climbing that fence absolutely took my breath away. So sad but such precious memories . Really touched my heart ♥️ so lovely to hear Davina is so happy

[@Dzanarika1]

That was amazing, it made me cry too

[@ktr2345]

please please please ITV give the people what they want and make McCall's midlife love island HAPPEN!

[@chrisbossman1978]

I would pay to see a midlife love island, better than watching mindless 20 somethings parade around

[@laurahampson9478]

Yesssss do it @itv

[@Noor-kp1yb]

So true

[@laurenb2407]

We just had a sort of version of this in Australia called “My Mum Your Dad” with Middle Aged parents who had been signed up by their adult children. It was so refreshing to watch middle aged people fall in love.

[@PrincessBewa]

YESSSSS

[@nudisco300]

Yet another Diary of a CEO episode that has left me in tears. What a fantastic roller-coaster and real in depth feeling and openess of Davinas experiences particularly around her sister. Was never much of a Davina fan before but the real person here as opposed to a screen persona is thoughtful, deep and genuine.

[@rhysleigh6115]

I lost my mum to difficulties concerning the menopause. It took me years to know and understand why I think it’s important that we all get educated and informed about the menopause

[@prismonthethehorizon5793]

I'm not kidding Davina McCall literally changed my life when she first spoke up about her relationship with her mum! 43:24, 45:15** 'Just keep walking and laying the path' - Davina McCall.

[@clareleonard6150]

She pretty summed up my life and made me realise that you have to work for what you want. It was the sat nav metaphor for me xx 😘 thank you xx

[@shannnnn2126]

Amen

[@pauldavies6037]

Made me cry such a special lady what you see is what you get

[@jonmills5097]

Absolutely!! I was not expecting my brain to actually shift gear ⚙️ like I actually felt the change

[@handsoffmycactus2958]

I’m the same. Powerful interview

[@turnbull524]

I’m an addict & 2 years clean at 28yo. I needed this today, thank you Davina & Steven

[@assi2424]

Matthew well done on being 2 yrs clean 🙂👍 on the difficult days take time to look around and see how amazing you have done to get 2 yrs look in the mirror and give yourself a pat on the back sending you best wishes 🙂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@riatruthseeker9489]

Well done !!! How amazing!!! Keep going bro proud of you ❤️

[@ronaldor9844]

Keep going bro stay strong you’re doing well 👊👊👊

[@darlapeelman1610]

Congratulations on your sobriety.☺️

[@bashdogg]

Proud of you 🙏🏽

[@shouldawouldacoulda]

I'm a ex addict,i'm on methodone currently. I'm like Davina a poly drug addict. My life is ruined,i have nothing so i appreciate 'celebs' telling there stories as this WILL help people. 23 years of hardcore drug abuse is killing me so listen up folks. Real Talk. Great interview (as per usual!) :(

[@rosa__spencer]

Best of luck to you... Keep going, it's never too late to change! X

[@CoCo-rr7fh]

You said “Ex” -addict..you’ve already won. Like Davina says, you will be ok and it’s never too late. Well done for starting the journey, and all the best

[@shouldawouldacoulda]

@@CoCo-rr7fh thank you 🙏 I appreciate your kind words 🫶🏻💚🫶🏻

[@CALIBA88]

my life is ruined bc not enough drugs but i wont quit. i wont bow to mainstream. atm i am getting more and wouldnt it be for a supply stop i would not be suicide

[@MimiKrimi]

I'm blown away by this woman. She is one of a kind with her energy and authenticity. I had other plans today, but I haven't been doing anything but listening to this fascinating woman. It's one of the most powerful stories I've ever heard. She is such an inspiration. You go girl!

[@acciohogwartslegacy]

This hit home for me. My brother died in a very similar way. He was a super-fit induvial, always running, weight training, sports, eating healthy, and never drunk or did drugs. Had back pain, for a month, always thought it was due to sports. We were all shocked when we found out he had cancer spread to all areas of his body, unfortunately never left the hospital. It was a week from diagnosis to his passing.

[@jadixie4463]

I'm so sorry for your loss, that's so sudden 😔

[@aeiamar]

So sorry for your loss… we had a bit more time with my mom after the back pain started until the diagnosis and passing away.

[@Dzanarika1]

I am sorry to read about your situation. Thank you for sharing your story. Sending yoy lots of love and wish you all the best on your life journey. We are all in this together ❤

[@anniezion]

Sorry for yr loss. Exactly this happened to an athlete over here. She was the healthiest you could imagine. Trained all her life, even was a short track runner at the Olympics. Had backpain and finally went in to the hospital and there were cancer all over in the body, died a few days after diagnosis and like your brother, never came home again. I think, when that healthy, the illness is harder to feel or acknowledge and also harder to be seen by family and friends. Also, you do not think they would be that ill,when living that way. What amaze me is how strong your brother and the woman I was telling about were, cancer in the whole body, but still up and about. Their bodies were strong until the end and in a way, if death were to come anyway, it's perhaps a better way to go, than going through painful treatments for month and months, but to no point in the end.❤️

[@007nadineL]

RIP. Do you know if someone sexually abused him when he was a child?

[@bipolarbear]

My favourite episode. You can't go wrong with Davina as a guest - she's bursting with love, wisdom and joie de vivre, despite everything she's had to endure. The part where she described her sister's final months was painfully moving, but at the same time, very positive.

[@Frank75288]

Poor little rich girl 👧 😢 😞 😔 💔 😪

[@Dzanarika1]

Europeans are more open and real. Majority of Americans are fake and leavein their own illusions, unfortunately.

[@mssaradime]

It's interesting to hear Davina refer to being hyper vigilant as a gift when it is most often a trauma response. I also analyzed my mothers footsteps to gauge her mood before seeing her. I often say that this heightened sensitivity is a gift and a curse. A gift because I feel like I am able to connect with people very easily, I feel like I am steps ahead of others because I can easily detect moods, body language, tone etc but a curse because I am always analyzing and taking stock of whether or not I am safe or in danger. Being hyper attuned to the moods of others has made it hard for me to just be myself at times without the influence of others, even when they aren't trying to purposely interfere. I love your channel Steven, I listen to at least one episode every day at work. I feel so seen and comforted as I can connect to many of the shared experiences. You have a gift, whether it is a major celebrity, psychologist, scientist etc. of humanizing them. Your ability to make your guests feel comfortable so that they are able to share and be so vulnerable is admirable and lovely to witness. Thank you

[@rinesserin]

My therapist and I talk about trauma responses all the time, and she always says that trauma responses exist for a reason. They come out to protect you, which makes them inherently helpful, as long as you can learn how to utilize them like tools rather than live in them like a house.

[@007nadineL]

How can you listen to a podcast if you are supposed to be working?

[@Elizamcd]

By far, the most moving conversation I've watched on DCEO. If the video had been another 2 hours longer, I'd have watched the lot. An incredible journey, with so much wisdom and healing. Loved and respected every part of it. So relatable and filled with hope. Wish you both nothing but the best! Ps. Davina I've watched you on tele since I was a child and I have always loved your energy and facial expressions, they are so endearing because you've always been authentically you. I went through a lot silently as a child and I always had a very bubbly facade as a mask, although I didn't know your back story back in the day, I remember how watching you made me feel! I would say you've already achieved your life purpose to help others, there are so many people out there who have benefitted from your work and openness. Your LEGACY is HUGE.

[@demarkay5262]

No word of a lie, Davina McCall is the reason why I'm a Radio Producer at 22. I've loved this woman since Big Brother and I always will. Thank you Davina.❤

[@kara455]

"Getting the rose's while you can still smell them" what an amazing quote. Can be transferred into every aspect of life !

[@elusive_red]

This was so incredibly moving. I was interested. I laughed. I related. I cried. I learned. But most of all, I healed. Thank you. ❤

[@ruthpargeter6201]

You are an excellent interviewer. You really listen to your guests. Davina- thank you for being so open and honest.

[@rico4you]

Thank you for this. I lost my Brother to Cancer this past December 28th in Madrid, Spain. He went while we listened together to "Mother Love" from Queen as I told Mom is there...look...and he went...with my Mom who passed away Oct 7th 2020.

[@50angeleyes]

I’ve heard a lot of the stuff about Davina before, like the drugs, her mother and so on but this was so much more. She should be so proud of herself that she came out the other side as the person she is.

[@ktcooki276]

hmmn..same, except i was quite surprised she clarified she'd only used drugs with mum twice. the impression i'd always had was they were smoke buddies. interesting how strong an impact this has.

[@zoeskinner2871]

@@ktcooki276 maybe she meant the hard drugs e.g. cocaine were only twice

[@catherinecaughey4839]

@@zoeskinner2871 aw

[@bonniefells7585]

This interview was so real, so amazing, so open, so revealing. I cried, I thought, I reflected. At the end of the day, I believe, what we all want is Love and Peace. Great interview.

[@colleengoodall9391]

I feel the raw honesty of this pod cast was rare and refreshing. Kudos to Ms. McCall for the strength she portrayed in discovering her motivating behaviours, she taught me much. Thank you as yet unknown to me producer.

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

🙏🏻

[@elnrburgin6342]

You can just tell how mesmerised Stephen is by Davina, best episode yet !!!!

[@KimLee2019]

So many takeaways from this interview. Davina is so down to Earth, raw, honest, fun and inspirational.

[@Ditto463]

Good grief I’m an emotional wreck after listening to this amazing episode! I listen to these stories to fall asleep to but instead have laid here transfixed, I’ve laughed, cried and had a couple of light bulb moments . Thank you to you both. Davina you’re truly inspiring thank you 🙏 ❤

[@PandyMill]

Best interview ever!! I am truly grateful to Davina for her brutal honesty and divine guidance. This will boost the awakening for sure, we need more celebs to get people thinking about this stuff. They use the media to teach us otherwise most of the time, this is a powerful backfire for them .❤❤

[@janetaylor8330]

I so adore this lady. She’s such an inspiration and her dedication to educating about the menopause is commendable. Her documentaries and new book have really helped me to feel empowered about the future and experience it for myself, even though I’m in my early thirties. I’ve been screaming about the menopause to all of the females in my life ever since, including my mum who as a result has just went on HRT! Love your podcasts Steven! They really do feel like they’re life changing. I share them with all my friends too.😊

[@stellahardy1991]

And look how far she's come 🙌❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@volt8684]

This ladies programme on the menopause would have saved my marriage, and decimation of my family and my 3 poor daughters.

[@cb4883]

God bless her 🙏 ❤️

[@rachealpike7986]

Me and my husband think I'm pre menopausal, I'm 37 and showing symptoms, but I've been told by my doctor that they can't test for it. So I'm abit unsure where to go next, any advice ladies? Xx

[@cb4883]

@rachealpike7986 my friend has been on hrt for some years and feels loads better you maybe should try it Good luck 👍

[@LillianMole]

I never comment on these but felt compelled to say this was such an interesting and incredible episode. What an unbelievable woman!

[@Wavelover33]

I’ve had a few “gifts” in my life. The biggest one was being with someone I loved. I had my hand on her should as she died and I felt her “energy” “soul” or whatever - like an electrical impulse / this energetic buzzing travel up my arm / through my shoulders and up through my head and a snap and she was “gone”. It was the moment she passed. She quite literally moved through me. I was joyous knowing she was still “there” while everyone else was understandably very upset. Her last gift to me. I loved her so much and in her last moment she gave me something massive Also I knew Davina for a short while when I was 15 or 16. I was an insecure awkward teenager, a bit out of place. She seemed very outgoing/confident,sure of herself, drug scene,someone I’d normally move away from but I felt comfortable with her. Big heart/old soul. I live in Canada now and am not exposed to whatever she’s done but was happy to see this podcast. And how she is here is exactly like I remember her and she should be light for us all. This and other experiences have been reduced to one thing - be kind. To everyone you know and everyone you come across. Almost impossible but strive for it. You will feel it one day.

[@moonchild66]

This was an amazing talk with Davina......shes an amazing concious and strong women❤the love she had for her sister is beautiful🙏

[@harrietx5152]

I had no idea about Davina’s life until now and this is why I love this podcast!

[@1414141x]

Neither have I and I am not in the least bit interested. Why are you ? Go help and elderly neighbour and give them some support by listening to them. That would be far more generous of spirit.

[@louisehogg8472]

And, unlike Chris Wood, you're now better equipped to support other ordinary people (which we all are) who have struggles with abandonment, mentally ill relatives, grief, drugs, addiction, truth/lies, the false lure of fame or wealth, career rejection. So when we now all continue to interact with our neighbours, both elderly and not, this won't have been an hour wasted.

[@1414141x]

@@louisehogg8472 Ooohhh Louise, that's a bit snarky ! xx Chris xx

[@linjan212]

Davina you absolute legend. Not only gone through absolute shit and hit rock bottom, you’ve dragged yourself up, turned your ire around and are now helping thousands if not millions of women like myself going through the menopause by bringing it to the forefront. Without your documentary’s I would never have been triggered to seek help from my GP. I just thought I was becoming an old b***h in midlife. I owe you everything you beautiful woman you. Thank you xx

[@FionnualaReynolds]

I have just cried all the way through this interview. Devina is such a beautiful person. And such an inspiration. How she described her last moments with her sister and how much she got from it. What an amazing way to look at loving and giving ❤ she truly is one of lifes living angels x

[@whimsythecrypto-hippy-wolf1900]

shockingly that got even me crying! deeply moving human stuff

[@dinaworkman306]

How do you know she may be another holly wallaby

[@RobynKimberleighPetersen]

She has such a kind and friendly personality which is rare for what she's been through.

[@hughiedavies6069]

I was surprised by Davinas openness and honesty, beautiful interview , I didn't expect it to be so good ,thank you Davina , i thought it was a measure of her strength how she went from her sisters death then pulled herself together to talk about the menopause , lovely genuine woman 👏

[@samanthacostin4571]

I met Davina the other week at a charity ball and she was the most incredible human!!! A truly amazing women! Thanks for sharing her story x

[@Lindsaywakelinphoto]

I have subscribed because of Davina. Thank you for giving her the space to talk and be honest, I had no idea about her child hood and have nothing but respect for her now. Great episode. Davina if you are reading this you rock woman! 😘

[@thiagomartins6341]

OMG thank you for the interview with Davina. Davina is deftnitly a big focus of light on this dark world. Thank you to be alive to share your story. amazing...

[@sharonpluckrose1092]

Thought I’d nip in & watch for five mins & couldn’t stop. Davina was amazing. Like watching a film. What an amazing life she has had. So honest & genuine. So good to know that she’s in a good place & is happy in her personal life. Will now be tuning in again 👏👏

[@abcdefghijklmnop]

This is my favourite interview by far. I’ve always had a strong love for Davina, and even more now! Amazing woman!

[@ip3931]

Her mannerisms of speaking on important topics is truly commendable.

[@sashasimons8996]

Listening to this podcast while at work and it is HARD to not just bawl my eyes out at some of the stories... You can feel every bit of her story and not necessarily have even gone through anything similar. There were moments I'd even caught myself smiling at the sweetest, most healing moments. Loved this podcast.❤

[@gracethompson6926]

Wow. I had no idea! I’ve lived my life looking at people like Davina, successful people, and wondering how I could ever reach any potential when I come from such a messed up life. But almost everything Davina has spoken about here I relate to. I also did cocaine with my mother at 15. My sister died. I was homeless at 15. Bla bla bla. But podcasts like this really show me that you can do whatever you want to do. No matter how broken your childhood was.

[@charityariverpixie998]

This for me was so powerful and moving , it made me cry , it made me laugh , I saw parts of myself , this was magical . The way you held space for her when she talked about her sisters end of life was a job well done , it’s instinctive to want to comfort or take someone’s pain away and to be able to sit in the room and just be there and just allow that space to be there , wow . Thank you for this I can’t really find the words to explain what a gift your podcasts are ❤

[@belaynema4723]

Yes!!! The way he holds space for people. He is amazing. What a powerful interview.

[@riatruthseeker9489]

@charity I don't know why but I feel like you need to hear this right now: you are so important, you're loved and needed in this world, the struggle is nearly over...keep going ❤️

[@saraatkinson8023]

Wow. The story about Davina and her sister’s reaction to their mother’s death really resonated with me. My dad was a narcissist and did some pretty awful things to those he was supposed to love (although, TBH, he only ever really loved himself) over the years. When he died, my brother and I confided in each other that, although we were sad and would miss him, we wouldn’t miss the drama that came with having him as a father. It’s been 2 years now and you have no idea how much better our lives have been since his passing. He was the cause of so much anxiety for each of us, but in different ways. It’s like a weight has been lifted. If you have a parent who makes you feel good about yourself, treasure them. 😢

[@hermeslover340]

What an interview 😱What a life. Never would of imagined she had a life like that , it’s totally fascinating. Well done Davina ❤

[@jjay0307]

she is absolutely a wonderful person, she doesn't get enough credit as a presenter, but she is my favourite hands down, was so beautiful to hear her honesty, she's a marvellous person

[@ecb1979]

Inner child work cannot be underestimated. It's life changing in so many ways. Great interview

[@JenniB123]

I've always loved Davina through watching Long Lost Family online (being in Australia I haven't seen her other programs). Sometime you watch something that really influences your life and watching this interview has made me feel this way. Thank you Davina for opening up in the most incredible way.

[@beeboppbaby]

Was that really two hours! They were well spent.This really gave food for thought.Your interview technique is really brings out the stories buried deep in your guests.Davina has always been one of the more relatable personalities on the box,now even more so.I'm now off to manifest.

[@kendrashergold439]

I was in tears so many times watching this, not just because I resonate but because of how she dealt with her trials, and how she overcome her issues and the clarity and grace and humble way she told us her story. A lovely human, hats off to this wonderful energy 🌈

[@WheezyCatLady]

God, Davina is SUCH an inspiration. The hell she's been through and the loss she's suffered. To sit there and be happy and grateful and a better person for it, really gives me hope!

[@stevenbrabenec2428]

This has to be one of the most powerful interviews ever. So many painful and joyous subjects covered with complete honesty and no ego. And the silent moments Stephen let’s sit there are so refreshing, giving the listener a moment to process what has been said and Davina to take a moment before sharing even more. I’m so grateful to Davina for being so truly honest and sharing the wisdom, insight and lessons everyone can benefit from. I recommend this series of podcasts to everyone, the guests and subjects covered are fascinating, far reaching and relevant.

[@saffronn8053]

This is the best interview I may have ever seen, so compassionately executed along with amazing Davina’s story telling skills… 10/10

[@marthaleaker2918]

When she was speaking about speaking to her young self - I felt that. I felt very emotional and even imagined myself, or put myself in that position. Very very powerful perspective. Thank you Davina for sharing. Even when you don't feel right now anything is right..one day it will be okay. Sometimes hardships reward us with greatness in the end.

[@bubukk3979]

Made me cry!!

[@SovereignKing]

1:35:30 - Nail on the head, Davina’s energy is unbelievably infectious! Davina made Big Brother so damn exciting to watch, like you could never miss a single minute. I feel exactly the same way watching this interview, I was hanging on her every word (and also in a flood of tears about her sister Caroline) Davina you are an absolute gift to the world, thank you so much for the inspiration!🙏🏽

[@YoullClapWhenImGone]

I could have watched them chat for a few hours more tbh, it didn't feel like a 2 hour interview at all.

[@TheErika711]

I'm sitting here balling.....my literal same experience with my Mom passing - my crazy life so much of what Davina shared here and here's the thing.....I've recently started Coda anonymous - it's saving my life before I came up on this you tube talk I was extremely depressed still going thru the grief of my Mom - being 58 my life shit - tonight Steven Bartlett another brilliant pod cast you are the king you ask amazing questions have amazing guests thank you for allowing Davina to talk so openly about her sister it's given me some comfort - your saving souls Steven you really are thank you

[@Rougecoco00]

I don't think I've ever watched such a moving and incredible interview, thank you for your openness and warmth, Davina. And to Steven for his wonderful ability to allow for this.

[@ArranEye]

Wow, what a charming, charismatic communicator, generously sharing her emotional intelligence with us all. Thank you both.

[@emmafmaurice]

Incredibly articulate and very warm about her experiences. Resonate with many things she spoke of. A hearty round of applause for a human who employs awareness and reflection to propel herself towards her greatest potential x

[@DW-ut3fx]

I never expected such a candid interview from davina mcall. Parts of it had me in tears and Stevens's listening skills are tremendous. He conducts the interview beautifully.

[@elena-roxanailie7907]

One of the best podcasts seen ever! What a great lesson on vulnerability, authenticity, positivity, power to carry on! Grateful for this! Thank you Davina and Steven❤

[@morganamaya]

What a woman. I’ve always loved Davina and felt like she was just “one of us”. Oh how I cried at this and could resonate with so much of everything Davina said. What a life she has lived. What traumas to have gone through and have come out the other side. Just an amazing guest and thank you as always for letting them speak 🙏🏻🙏🏻💗 love you Davina 🥰 xx

[@cherrywallis]

What a beautiful interview. So raw. So human. Davina you're a wonderful woman.

[@joannerorich9909]

Love this interview. Only got to watch it now, 2 months later. Thanks Steve and Davina for an open, transparent and engaging interview. I lost my mum in 2010 and only now do I realise the 7 year thing. I was also going through menopause in 2017 and oh my word, the symptoms were extreme. I’m so glad I got answers to some confusing times of my life. Feeling very grateful!

[@cjc201]

Davina is such a likeable honest person, so glad she was able to resolve her issues and brought some great shows to our screens. Great interview aswell.

[@carolinebedford9836]

Although in parts Davina's story is sad, it is also refreshing to see a celebrity not pretending that they haven't had problems or a flawless life.

[@533MrHappy]

This is so touching, I'm in tears. I've struggled with drugs and I'm in the process of fixing myself. It's been years but I'm gradually getting there. My troubles also came from being abandoned. She makes me feel so inspired

[@CupOfTeaX]

Take care brother. I’ve been meaning to watch this.

[@spirituallysafe]

I am so sorry for your trauma. You cannot fix this on your own. Jesus is the only answer. He transforms lives so fast when people turn to Him in genuine repentance for sins ❤

[@hannahgrace641]

The best episode of this podcast I have heard and one I could listen to over and over again. Davina is a force of positivity and such an inspiration. Thank you for being so open and honest.

[@joelarama]

I adore Davina. I’m so grateful that she has chosen to talk about her addictions so publicly, her transparency is truly beautiful. I’m 10 years sober and identify so much with her choices as a teenager. Abandonment issues, people pleasing…being the clown! Drinking and using and desperately trying to fill that proverbial hole in the soul. My goal is to reach the contentment which she spoke. I still have a lot of work to do on myself but one day hopefully, I’ll be sat on that train feeling naturally and organically content. I’m going to try a hypnotherapist..I’d like to comfort the 10 year Joel and tell him everything will be alright, take his hand and set him free. Thank you Steven for continuing to provide such fantastic content on your channel. More celebs in recovery please! ☺️👏🏼🙏🏼